HTC killer?

[landshark]

From Ubermobile:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/01/viliv_umpc_is_extremely_portable.html

Similar slider/keyboard format as Shift, but:
- Menlo processor (good for battery life, bad for speed)
- Looks like Windows XP option (my preference)
- Assuming same screen as its brother, it will have 7" 1024 x 600, 16million vs 256k colors
- Same HDD options as Shift
- Only 512mb memory (expandable?) vs 1gb not expandable
- WAN optional only with external modem (actually my prefernce, since I'll use my HSPDA phone - HTC Trinity - as a tethered modem rather than pay for 2x data plans)
- GPS (sirfStar III, not that POS Qualcomm i have in my Trinity that is probably in the Shift)
- Estimated MSRP of $700-$800 vs. $1,600 for Shift

So, no Snapvue, no phone guts, and with an estimated ship date of 3Q2008, it'll probably beat the Shift to the shelves!!! <grin>

Man, waiting until 3Q (assuming they really do this and do it on time) would be painful, but if it comes in with the specs they list, it could be the winner for me.

Mike

[koala996]

seems quite bad .. i would say 40% of interest of the shift is in that one .. but maybe it's nice for you.

the Shift is not the perfect devise for everyone ... so maybe this device is for you

[M M]

- Menlo processor (good for battery life, bad for speed)




Mike

Menlo processor 1,86 GHz - A110 800 MHz
:( Am I missing something ?

[landshark]

Hey MM -

My understanding is although the Menlo is running at a higher clock speed, it is a different architecture so a higher clock speed doesn't really translate into faster performance. I did some internet searching (sorry, didn't save the links) which suggest that the Menlo referenced here will be about the same as the Stealy A110 which is the 800mhz version included in the Shift.

Of course, it should have much lower power consumption, so maybe we could get better than 2hrs out of the battery.

[saied 1]

why not oQo e2? it's good and have most of shift ability

[M M]

Hey MM -

My understanding is although the Menlo is running at a higher clock speed, it is a different architecture so a higher clock speed doesn't really translate into faster performance. I did some internet searching (sorry, didn't save the links) which suggest that the Menlo referenced here will be about the same as the Stealy A110 which is the 800mhz version included in the Shift.

Of course, it should have much lower power consumption, so maybe we could get better than 2hrs out of the battery.

Very interesting!!!
Thanks Mike :)

[leoni1980]

seems quite bad .. i would say 40% of interest of the shift is in that one .. but maybe it's nice for you.

the Shift is not the perfect devise for everyone ... so maybe this device is for you

I don't really understand what market the Shift is really 'for'. It's a very strange device which doesn't seem to offer much in the way of practicality. It's low-res screen and poor battery make it an ineffective laptop replacement - my old Sony Vaio TX had FOUR TIMES the battery life. The size is not as small as other devices and it would appear it only has two features not seen on other UMPCs: phone functionality (which is surely just a further battery drain) and windows mobile device functionality. Wouldn't it be more practical though to have a proper phone with Windows Mobile built in and tether it via bluetooth or WMWifirouter when the internet is needed?

I'm looking for UMPC but it seems the Shift has too many negatives and there appear to be better things on the market, particularly given that I'm not really bothered about making phone calls from one.

Battery life, screen resolution and keyboard quality are for me the critical elements of a UMPC.

(oh and size)

If anyone can explain why they would rather have a UMPC with phone and windows mobile built in than a UMPC WITH a normal, practical windows mobile device I would be interested to hear. Seems the convergence with the Shift is a bit over-the-top and might be more impractical than practical.

[wu5262]

I don't really understand what market the Shift is really 'for'. It's a very strange device which doesn't seem to offer much in the way of practicality. It's low-res screen and poor battery make it an ineffective laptop replacement - my old Sony Vaio TX had FOUR TIMES the battery life. The size is not as small as other devices and it would appear it only has two features not seen on other UMPCs: phone functionality (which is surely just a further battery drain) and windows mobile device functionality. Wouldn't it be more practical though to have a proper phone with Windows Mobile built in and tether it via bluetooth or WMWifirouter when the internet is needed?

I'm looking for UMPC but it seems the Shift has too many negatives and there appear to be better things on the market, particularly given that I'm not really bothered about making phone calls from one.

Battery life, screen resolution and keyboard quality are for me the critical elements of a UMPC.

(oh and size)

If anyone can explain why they would rather have a UMPC with phone and windows mobile built in than a UMPC WITH a normal, practical windows mobile device I would be interested to hear. Seems the convergence with the Shift is a bit over-the-top and might be more impractical than practical.

I personally like the concept of HTC Shift, yes i think you are correct to treat Shift as an UMPC, however what make Shift so special is because the duo mode that it offers and the form factor. It's fair to say there are no other device which has the same concept as Shift, at least not in the market yet.

It all depends on people, some people prefer to only carry on device which does everything, some prefer to carry separates. For those people who prefer to carry it all on one, Shift is really quite a nice option. It's important to notice the difference between laptop and UMPC, they serve different purposes. If anyone is new to UMPC, i suggest you visit a well known website call UMPC Portal, they have lots of information here. And it's interesting to know, HTC Shift occur to be the most viewed device there in rank 1, and it has stay in that position for for a long time.