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axle7517
21st February 2008, 01:36 PM
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in -2,36666666666667 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in -1,35 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in -0,35 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
AT*SEVOL?
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 5,56666666666667 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 6,56666666666667 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 7,56666666666667 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 8,56666666666667 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 9,58333333333333 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 10,5833333333333 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 11,5833333333333 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 12,5833333333333 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
Next appointment: Aucun sujet, starts at 14:30, reminder (minutes before start): 60, watch notification start in 13,5833333333333 minutes
Calc 1 OK.
Add OK.
Calc 0 OK. Minutes before start: -60
Load OK.
smartWatchM v0.1.7.8 (20080221)
Get the latest version for free from www.smartmadsoft.com or forum.xda-developers.com. Enjoy the wireless freedom.
AT+CCLK?
ATE0
AT*SEVOL?
AT*SEMMIR=2
AT+CSCS="UTF-8"
AT+GCLIP=1
AT+CLIP=1
AT+CCWA=1
AT+CMER=3,0,0,1
AT+CIND?
AT+CIND=?
AT*SEAUDIO=0,0
AT*SEAM="MBW-150",13
Waiting for connection. Press a button on the watch.

axle7517
21st February 2008, 01:55 PM
Quote:
> startup shortcut selection during installation : does not work i select NO and the shortcut was created

Works in my phone, works in WM6 Pro emulator on PC... Is the shortuct placed in \Windows\StartUp ??

still the same probleme
but i 've got some idea that can help you
in windows folder ther is a "startup" folder and a "demarrage" (in french) folder
in the startup nothing, but un "demarage" i always find the shortcut to smartwatch even if select no in the installation procedure
i thing you understand what i mean
regards

moneytoo
21st February 2008, 02:36 PM
in windows folder ther is a "startup" folder and a "demarrage" (in french) folder
in the startup nothing, but un "demarage" i always find the shortcut to smartwatch even if select no in the installation procedure
i thing you understand what i mean
regards

OK, I understand. I will fix it.

Appointment notifications: It's really really weird. I only read system state of next calendar appointment and calculate if it's time to start alarm or not. I think it's time to give up the fight with calendar appointment events (http://csharponphone.blogspot.com/2006/08/systemstate-calendarappointment-events.html) and read the data directly from calendar application / outlook. Im gonna to rewrite it...

Rukyr99
21st February 2008, 03:38 PM
Maybe stupid question but are the people with the notification problems using another Agenda instead of the standard App? I'm using the standard with desktop Outlook without any noticable problems. I ALWAYS get notified upfront, works great...

axle7517
21st February 2008, 04:19 PM
Maybe stupid question but are the people with the notification problems using another Agenda instead of the standard App? I'm using the standard with desktop Outlook without any noticable problems. I ALWAYS get notified upfront, works great...

i'm using my kaiser with htc original rom (1.56.406.5 date 08/30/07)
my desktop : windows vista / outlook 2003 / WMDC
and i am only using the pocket outlook calendar of my kaiser (no spb diary or esle)

what is your device ?

Rukyr99
21st February 2008, 05:04 PM
i'm using my kaiser with htc original rom (1.56.406.5 date 08/30/07)
my desktop : windows vista / outlook 2003 / WMDC
and i am only using the pocket outlook calendar of my kaiser (no spb diary or esle)

what is your device ?

Exactly the same (TYTN II), only difference is that i'm using the dutch ROM and no Vista. Keeps getting stranger and stranger...

Pernod99
21st February 2008, 09:09 PM
Maybe stupid question but are the people with the notification problems using another Agenda instead of the standard App? I'm using the standard with desktop Outlook without any noticable problems. I ALWAYS get notified upfront, works great...

Hmmmh, my "PlugIn" is PocketBreeze 5.4, nothing else.

Pernod99
21st February 2008, 09:14 PM
I think it's time to give up the fight with calendar appointment events (http://csharponphone.blogspot.com/2006/08/systemstate-calendarappointment-events.html) and read the data directly from calendar application / outlook. Im gonna to rewrite it...

A good Idea (If it help ?) ;)


Thank you, this you you still with the problem employs.

delboydell
21st February 2008, 09:24 PM
does anyone know if the cheaper watches avalible on ebay like this one http://search.ebay.co.uk/BLUETOOTH-WATCH-WORKS-WITH-SONY-ERICSSON-MOBILES-NEW-UK_W0QQfsiZ1QQitemidZ200199997598QQsearch_vsi_same sellerZ1QQsellernameZlowQ2dcostQ2dgadgetsQQsibelea fcatZ80085QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEWAQ3aMEVSI
work in any part with this great looking software?

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 01:51 AM
Here's the latest version of btWatch!

I updated the app to dynamically load fonts from tiny bmp images stored in the install directory. This will allow you to change the font in any way you choose. Simply edit the files using windows paint. You may increase/decrease the width of each file, but must not alter the height (8 pixels) or rename the files.

These images are loaded dynamically into memmory when the application is launched and used for 2 line text display. (note: I did not add punctuation yet. eg: @ , ! ? . but I will for the next version)

When an SMS message is received (and SMS Notification is enabled in Options), the watch vibrates, displays the number of unread SMS messages and then proceeds to display the sender name/number followed by the entire txt message, regardless of length!

Pressing the crown (pause/play) will display current phone status. Holding the crown (FF) will display all upcoming appointments for the current day (if any).

I will be updating CallerID to 2-line text in the next revision. I will also be including Appointment notifications and enable a Tasks Menu similar to the current Appointments Menu.

BTW: If you have trouble getting the watch to connect, you need to make sure that MoneyToo's app is not running, turn BT off and back on then connect (press upper-right button or crown). If this does not work, I would suggest removing any associated com port (and possibly the watch pairing) and pairing directly through btWatch.

Edit: Added 2-line CallerID and fixed bug to allow installation on foreign phones.

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 02:16 AM
@pcfixitman:I get an error when I try to start your app.

btWatch.exe
DirectoryNotFoundException
Er kan geen foutmelding worden weergegeven omdat een optionele bron-assembly niet kan worden gevonden

bij System.IO.__Error.WinIOError()
bij System.IO.Directory.InternalGetFileDirectoryNames( )
bij System.IO.Directory.InternalGetFiles()
bij System.IO.Directory.GetFiles()
bij btWatch.setup.loadFontTable()
bij btWatch.setup.setup_Load()
bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad()
bij System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibleNotify()
bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visible()
bij System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
bij btWatch.Program.Main()

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 02:20 AM
@pcfixitman:I get an error when I try to start your app.

What is the error? Which version of phone do you have (SmartPhone, Pocket PC Style)?

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 02:22 AM
I just added the error in my post above.
I Use a PPC (HTC Touch).

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 02:24 AM
You must install the app to the device directly, not the memory card.
Uninstall btWatch via "remove programs" and reinstall.

Let me know if this helps.

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 02:25 AM
It doesn't help, but I use a Dutch rom/windows mobile. Maybe that's the problem.

EDIT: It does work when I create a Program Files folder and copy it to there.
Maybe you should use variables instead.

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 02:27 AM
It doesn't help, but I use a Dutch rom/windows mobile. Maybe that's the problem.

Is the name of "Program Files" folder on your phone in Dutch? That would definately cause a problem, but I can fix it later tonight. (font folder is hard coded)

Glad to hear it works, but I will definately alter the app to dynamicaly locate the install directory.

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 02:35 AM
ZMDK:

Just a couple of quick questions.

Does the "heartbeat" annimation work when connecting the watch?

Does the full text message display when sent a somewhat long SMS?

Is the Appointments Menu working (press and hold crown(FF))?

Thanks

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 02:41 AM
It works now (I copied the btwatch dir from "programmabestanden" tot "program files), but I found a bug.
1) When I press&hold the right middel button I first get the FFW icon followed by "No more appointments today" and after that the watch doesn't react on the buttons anymore.
The only way to get it working again is doeing a test call.

2) the test "Send SMS" doesn't do anything on my system.

Nice EKG animation by the way.

EDIT: Bug 2 resolved (SMS notification was of in options menu)

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 03:01 AM
It works now (I copied the btwatch dir from "programmabestanden" tot "program files), but I found a bug.
1) When I press&hold the right middel button I first get the FFW icon followed by "No more appointments today" and after that the watch doesn't react on the buttons anymore.
The only way to get it working again is doeing a test call.

2) the test "Send SMS" doesn't do anything on my system.

Nice EKG animation by the way.

EDIT: Bug 2 resolved (SMS notification was of in options menu)

I updated the cab file on the previous post to detect the install directory so that it should work on non-US phones. I also made a minor change which should fix Bug1 above.

Thanks for the quick feedback!

Edit: BTW, have someone send you a long SMS message if possible to test. The "test sms" button will not activate the proper function.

ol2
22nd February 2008, 05:44 AM
First of all moneytoo, thanks for writing such a cool app. Works great on my Blackjack II with a MBW-150. Easy to install and config. Just a couple of things not working:
1. I dont get notify events for appointments at all - nice to fix this
2. the media player controls are not working (with player in foreground)

and a couple of suggestions:
3. the email notifications would be great if they had the sender and subject in them rather then "email for...." as the emails are always for me
4. mute/unmute for the mic would be a killer feature during a call, as this is usually difficult to do on a headset.

Thanks again for an excellent app.

moneytoo
22nd February 2008, 07:39 AM
ol2:
1., 2. I will test it on Blackjack (I)
3. This is not that easy. Maybe some day.
4. Ok. I will try to add this feature.

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 12:42 PM
ZMDK:

Just a couple of quick questions.

[QUOTE=pcfixitman;1953772]Does the "heartbeat" annimation work when connecting the watch?
Yes
Does the full text message display when sent a somewhat long SMS?
It's fully dispalyed, but words are sometimes cut in 2 pieces to proceed on the next line (sometimes even letters are cut in 2)
Is the Appointments Menu working (press and hold crown(FF))?
Not tested yet (no appointments)

pcfixitman
22nd February 2008, 01:26 PM
Here's the latest version of btWatch. I fixed a few minor bugs in the code and added a few new features.

You can now controll Windows Media Player properly. By default the crown (play, pause, ff) is used for phone status and appointment info. If you press the upper right button 4-5 times in a row the watch will display "WMP Control Activated" and the crown will revert to play, pause and next track functions. The first time you press play WMP will activate on your device so you can select a playlist. Once you have picked a playlist and started listening to music you can minimize WMP. From this point on the watch will display artist/track info each time a new song starts. You can pause, play and advance tracks without having to manually bring WMP to the front (screen can be off for that matter).

When you want to check phone status, etc simply press the upper right button 4 times in a row and the watch will display "WMP Control Deactivated." The crown will then activate status menus.

As always, your feedback is much appreciated.

BTW: I am currently using the media control function to listen to music on my A2DP headset with the phone in my pocket and the screen turned off with no problems at all.

EDIT: Newer version available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1960580&postcount=547

ZMDK
22nd February 2008, 07:48 PM
Version 0.1.5 works great, but the messages "WMP control activated / deactivated" are displayed very short (+-50msec)

dr_nick
22nd February 2008, 09:35 PM
awesome! - i simply cannot wait to get home and check this out. been waiting for the WMP control function to come out, and the text msg scrolling is brill

:D

pcfixitman
23rd February 2008, 12:14 AM
Just a quick update.

I have updated the app to better deal with long SMS messages. It will no longer split individual characters between lines, but will split words just to maximize use of the small screen. The bottom line of text should no longer start with a space if the lines split between words. I also added a few seconds to the display of "WMP Control Activated/Deactivated."

By the time I post the updated version later today, I will have likely added the tasks menu as well. Hopefully, I will have time to add punctuation to the font so that smileys :) etc can be seen in messages.

EDIT: BTW, moneytoo thanks for continuing to update the 1st post to reflect my current version/post!

moneytoo
23rd February 2008, 12:45 AM
smartWatchM (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm.cab) 0.1.7.9

- improved stopwatch ("milliseconds", no blinking)
I really use this feature a lot (cooking etc. :)).

- fixed startup shortcut
Fixed no deleting shortcut on localized WM.

- battery line (messaging info screen)
Shows a line in Messaging info screen symbolizing battery power of connected WM device. (If you dont like the line, set battline to 0 in HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm)

- mute/unmute mic during call
@ol2: It's not the best solution but I hope it will work. Press FF (next track / press&hold top left button) to mute/unmute call.

- toggle loudspeaker/speakerphone during call
Press Stop (press&hold middle left button) to turn on/off loudspeaker.

- silent start
Minimize or hide sWM window on application start. I'm not sure how the minimizing will work on PPC so for enabling this you have to set a registry value (in HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm) silentstart to 1 (for minimize) or 2 (hide)



1. "Wake up" Bug
Quote:if I press at the clock any button, the PPC goes "On" (Display) (out of Standby / WakeUp). So, the Accu Life is essentially shorter
is always-still available

Pernod99: This is not a bug of smartWatchM but it's a "feature" of some Windows Mobile devices (& virtual serial port over BT). I have paired MBW-150 with Samsung Blackjack (I) and the display goes on every time I press a button on the watch (sWM is not running). This may be because of the lack of MS BT stack (or some registry setting?).

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 01:10 AM
Quote:
1. "Wake up" Bug
Quote:if I press at the clock any button, the PPC goes "On" (Display) (out of Standby / WakeUp). So, the Accu Life is essentially shorter
is always-still available

Pernod99: This is not a bug of smartWatchM but it's a "feature" of some Windows Mobile devices (& virtual serial port over BT). I have paired MBW-150 with Samsung Blackjack (I) and the display goes on every time I press a button on the watch (sWM is not running). This may be because of the lack of MS BT stack (or some registry setting?).

:( :mad: THIS "Feature" cost a lot of Accu Cap.

And the really IMPORTANT "Appointment Notify" Bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1952714&postcount=508) / Or HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1942216&postcount=470) ?
How does it look hereby?

dr_nick
23rd February 2008, 02:14 AM
i'm having trouble with running btwatch and my a2dp headset (motorola s9) together. functionally it works well, though i find 5 presses a little cumbersome (long press would be better?).

but whenever watch is communicating with phone - like when i input a skip or pause command - the audio is interuppted several times and is jumpy :(

also, the background noise on headset connection seems worse when btwatch is running and sound quality seems worse :(
anyone else experiencing this? do i somehow need to set headset and watch to differentg com ports (how?)

thanks

dr_nick

edit: and where can i donate to pcfixitman?

Tupac_Shakur
23rd February 2008, 05:56 AM
i'm having trouble with running btwatch and my a2dp headset (motorola s9) together. functionally it works well, though i find 5 presses a little cumbersome (long press would be better?).

but whenever watch is communicating with phone - like when i input a skip or pause command - the audio is interuppted several times and is jumpy :(

also, the background noise on headset connection seems worse when btwatch is running and sound quality seems worse :(
anyone else experiencing this? do i somehow need to set headset and watch to differentg com ports (how?)

thanks

dr_nick

edit: and where can i donate to pcfixitman?

I also have the same issue, the watch eventually disconnects and never reconnects.

ol2
23rd February 2008, 06:41 AM
Moneytoo: very nice job on the mute/unmute! Thank you. It works great.
One more suggestion on that feature, it's hard to know whether the phone is muted without looking at the phone because of the toggle. It would improve the usability if the watch displayed MUTE while the phone was muted. Alternatively (or in addition) you could use the down key for mute-on and the up key for mute-off rather than the toggle mechanism. At least that would avoid getting out of sync with the toggle (i.e. trying to mute the phone when it's already muted, then saying something rude only to realize that you just turned mute off!).

Also, the appointment notification and media player control now work perfectly too.

Thanks again.

hakanos
23rd February 2008, 11:00 AM
Hi Guys,

Is there a manual or something where I can find all the possible options. I can see there are a lot more options than that is written on the first page. Maybe Moneytoo can summarize all the possible options and features.

thanks

ZMDK
23rd February 2008, 12:03 PM
functionally it works well, though i find 5 presses a little cumbersome (long press would be better?).


The watch only supports long press on the middle right button.

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 12:37 PM
By the way ... V. 0.1.7.9

- appointment notifications = Did NOT work :mad::(
- sms sender/text notification = Work :rolleyes:

moneytoo
23rd February 2008, 01:07 PM
By the way ... V. 0.1.7.9

- appointment notifications = Did NOT work :mad::(
- sms sender/text notification = Work :rolleyes:

It works correctly on this screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1950839&postcount=499

You will be notified - "Mittagschicht: Di - Fr" in cca 60 hours.

sWM reads the next appointment from HKCU\System\State\Appointments\Next. This "Next" appointment is the soonest appointment in calendar. If it's not saved here, then it's a bug of Asus.

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 01:34 PM
It works correctly on this screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1950839&postcount=499

You will be notified - "Mittagschicht: Di - Fr" in cca 60 hours.

sWM reads the next appointment from HKCU\System\State\Appointments\Next. This "Next" appointment is the soonest appointment in calendar. If it's not saved here, then it's a bug of Asus.

It is saved in HKCU\System\State\Appointments\Next (equally all other Appointments), ASUS work correct !
PPC Asus P750 remind me correct for all Appointments.

But MBW-150 in combination with sWM (higher V. 0.1.7.0) did NOT notify the Appointments :( .
(If I Set volume to value 1 and press Stop/Play button it show me the Appointment correct in MBW-150 Display) :confused:

Again, any alteration of version problems now do 0.1.7.0.
Version 0.1.7.0 don't no big one problems at least for reference Appointments.
Therefore, it was not because of Asus or BlueTooth, it any modification/alteration AFTER Version 0.1.7.0 !!!

moneytoo
23rd February 2008, 01:44 PM
It is saved in HKCU\System\State\Appointments\Next (equally all other Appointments), ASUS work correct !
PPC Asus P750 remind me correct for all Appointments.

But MBW-150 in combination with sWM (higher V. 0.1.7.0) did NOT notify the Appointments :( .
Again, any alteration of version problems now do 0.1.7.0.
Version 0.1.7.0 don't no big one problems at least for reference Appointments.
Therefore, it was not because of Asus or BlueTooth, it any modification/alteration AFTER Version 0.1.7.0 !!!

If it's in ...Appointment\Next then you should try the test version again (here (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_app_test2.cab))

If the next appointment is correctly displayed in the registry, then sWM MUST show you the same appointment (and start the countdown if reminder is set).

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 01:45 PM
Info:
If I Set volume to value 1 and press Stop/Play button it show me the Appointment correct in MBW-150 Display

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 03:04 PM
If it's in ...Appointment\Next then you should try the test version again (here (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_app_test2.cab))

If the next appointment is correctly displayed in the registry, then sWM MUST show you the same appointment (and start the countdown if reminder is set).

Hmm, (Test with one Test Appointment)

Test with smartwatchm_app_test2.cab, it Works
With Version 0.1.7.9 it do NOT Work

The same entry was exact in both cases in Appointment\Next ..... correct.
Now, I am quite confused

moneytoo
23rd February 2008, 03:16 PM
Hmm, (Test with one Test Appointment)

Test with smartwatchm_app_test2.cab, it Works
With Version 0.1.7.9 it do NOT Work

The same entry was exact in both cases in Appointment\Next ..... correct.
Now, I am quite confused

There was no change in the code since the test version. Anyway, here (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_app_test3.cab) is 0.1.7.9 with enabled test appointment log. It has to work same way...

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 05:05 PM
There was no change in the code since the test version. Anyway, here (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_app_test3.cab) is 0.1.7.9 with enabled test appointment log. It has to work same way...

I test it in evening ....

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 09:03 PM
Rapport:
Test with smartwatchm_app_test3.cab, it do NOT Work ("Appointment notify")
NO "Appointment notify" (NO Display, NO Vibrate)
"Anomaly": 1-2 Seconds before "Appointment", PPC Freeze.
100% CPU Usage, only sWM Kill or Softreset helps.

Also, with Version 0.1.7.9 it do NOT Work

Tested once more: With Version smartwatchm_app_test2.cab it do Work (but NOT the "Appointment notify")
The same entry was exact in all cases in Appointment\Next ..... correct.

Temporary result:
smartwatchm_app_test2.cab be the last / single version they relatively able to function without "Appointment notify" !!!

Really stable/function (not 100%) Version with "Appointment notify" is 0.1.7.0 unfortunately without - sms sender/text notification (Displays SMS sender, time and preview of the text message) and without "Notification Repeats" (unfortunately only one repetition/repeats, it is to short ....)

:mad:

Pernod99
23rd February 2008, 11:49 PM
But, I believe myself resigns.....
I can no more, is empty and exhausted by the eternal one tests ......

THX to moneytoo !!!

moneytoo
24th February 2008, 12:57 AM
smartWatchM (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm.cab) v0.2.0.0

Only one updated feature but it's major...

- Detailed E-mail notifications
On incoming E-mail the watch will display sender and subject. There is more detailed screen in the watch menu (volume = 2) - sender, subject, time, mail size, priority, and short preview.
(*check pictures in the first post)

So what's the next most important feature to include/improve/fix?
Do you really wont to read and browse through all your messages (sms/email/tasks/appointments/call history...)?
Anything else?



Pernod99: This version wont resolve your appointment problems. I really dont know why it's not working correctly since I have no problems (tested myself) on HTC Wings, HTC Excalibur, HTC Kaiser, Qtek 8500, Samsung Blackjack, some HP iPaq. I have tested it on all these devices and the appointments work. I would recommend you to make master reset (and use Sprite backup to recover later) but all the complaings then...
Your options:
1. Get me some Asus
2. Buy yourself HTC
3. Start using btWatch
I really dont know...

Pernod99
24th February 2008, 01:09 AM
Pernod99: This version wont resolve your appointment problems. I really dont know why it's not working correctly since I have no problems (tested myself) on HTC Wings, HTC Excalibur, HTC Kaiser, Qtek 8500, Samsung Blackjack, some HP iPaq. I have tested it on all these devices and the appointments work. I would recommend you to make master reset (and use Sprite backup to recover later) but all the complaings then...
Your options:
1. Get me some Asus
2. Buy yourself HTC
3. Start using btWatch
I really dont know...

I feared it :(

pcfixitman
24th February 2008, 05:22 AM
i'm having trouble with running btwatch and my a2dp headset (motorola s9) together. functionally it works well, though i find 5 presses a little cumbersome (long press would be better?).

but whenever watch is communicating with phone - like when i input a skip or pause command - the audio is interuppted several times and is jumpy :(

also, the background noise on headset connection seems worse when btwatch is running and sound quality seems worse :(
anyone else experiencing this? do i somehow need to set headset and watch to differentg com ports (how?)

thanks

dr_nick

edit: and where can i donate to pcfixitman?


The app has worked so well with my Jabra that I had not thought to try it with my Moto S9. I tested it last night and got the same results (if not worse) as you. The problem seems to be at a very low level in the communication process. I will rectify the problem, but it may take some time.

I did shorten the number of presses it takes to activate WMP to 4 (any less and it may activate when you do not want it). Long press is, unfortunately not possible with this button. I will post the newer version in a couple of minutes.

BTW, I added a link in my signature to submit donations to the development of btWatch - TIA.

pcfixitman
24th February 2008, 05:31 AM
Here's the updated version of btWatch!

I have updated the app to better deal with long SMS messages. It will no longer split individual characters between lines, but will split words just to maximize use of the small screen. The bottom line of text should no longer start with a space if the lines split between words. I added a few seconds to the display of "WMP Control Activated/Deactivated" and reduced the number of times you need to press the upper right button to 4.

I have added the tasks menu as well. Simply hold the crown(FF) to enter the Appointments menu; at any time during the display of appointments, press the top right button to enter the Tasks menu. It will display a list of tasks which have not yet been completed, their priority and due date if any.

I also made a major change the threading structure of the code (hopefully one for the best). This was done to allow the application to track what the current state of the watch is so that it can be interrupted as necessary (incoming call, etc).

Edit: I also added all standard punctuation - click "menu->test->2-line font test" to see what is currently supported.

moneytoo
24th February 2008, 08:38 AM
pcfixitman: I think you should start your own thread (since btWatch is growing so fast). Two different app developments, reports... Too much confusing for people I guess.

pcfixitman
24th February 2008, 11:03 AM
pcfixitman: I think you should start your own thread (since btWatch is growing so fast). Two different app developments, reports... Too much confusing for people I guess.

I agree that it would greatly simplify things for our readers if the 2 apps were on individual threads. So, I have started a new thread devoted to btWatch.

You can find the new thread here. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1960856#post1960856) I'll be keeping an eye on smartWatchM - great work moneytoo!

Paultnl
24th February 2008, 02:51 PM
I get the writen notification but no vibrate

moneytoo
24th February 2008, 02:55 PM
I get the writen notification but no vibrate

Bad connection or reconnection. Just exit smartWatchM and restart the connection.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1871441&postcount=46

Paultnl
24th February 2008, 04:19 PM
Bad connection or reconnection. Just exit smartWatchM and restart the connection.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1871441&postcount=46

Turned off BT on watch
Reset WM device
Restart BT
Restart smartWatchM

Same result :-(

Everything else works :-)

ol2
25th February 2008, 03:33 AM
Great job on the email notifications. I've been testing v0.2.0.0 and it was working fairly well. However v0.2.0.1 locks up completely whenever I get a new email.

moneytoo
25th February 2008, 06:08 AM
Great job on the email notifications. I've been testing v0.2.0.0 and it was working fairly well. However v0.2.0.1 locks up completely whenever I get a new email.

OK. Keep using v0.2.0.0 (a made v0.2.0.0 available to download again) and inform me if you find any further problem with e-mail notifiocations (I have some troules on my device. First it was working fine but the notifications stopped after some time.)

hannah
25th February 2008, 06:18 AM
moneytoo,

Is it possible to scroll through all the functions by pressing only the FF or REW button? And using PLAY/STOP button to activate features in that function?

Rukyr99
25th February 2008, 10:23 AM
I have the opposite problem as compared to the no vibrate on SMS, my watch (MWB-100) vibrates but no caller ID on screen. It worked fine on all versions before 0.2.0.0....i've resetted and restarted all devices....but no solution...what could be the problem?

Edit: when i try to test i get an Error 033
Edit2:reinstalled SmartwatchM and it works fine now...

Skiddy
25th February 2008, 03:25 PM
I had been following this thread with interest, because I liked the idea of the watch and was even close to switching to Sony before Christmas. Just today I received my watch (took extra time to get it to Thailand) and fiddled with it until I got it working.

The first problem was the pairing but once I understood the procedure properly it went without a hitch. Repeated it a few times thereafter, each time without any problems whatsoever. One problem was with the HTC Touch Dual - its best to chose a proper soft keyboard, because otherwise one cannot be sure, if one enters zeros or spaces for the password.

Then of course came the setup of SmartWatchM itself and of course I ran into a problem with the registry values. Some items were not showing up in the editor (Resco), which frazzled me at first. So I finally gave up and deleted all the entries including SmartWatchM from my device. I then proceeded to install btWatch and within minutes I had everything working. Now I was at least sure the watch would not be just a boat anchor.

Back to the registry I went and learned a bit more since I could now look at real values. So the long and short of it is, that btWatch has a superior installation procedure. I was also able to get the BT address from the program, which was difficult to read on the MBW-150 Executive. The wristband is in the way and my eyes are not that sharp anymore.

Playing around a bit with btWatch and all the buttons on the MBW-150 I was unable to get some of the things working. Not sure is this is due to using a MBW-150 instead of a MBW-100 or just not enough "button instructions". The program though worked without a problem, all tests, which were provided, cleared the muster. I especially liked the EKG beat.:)

So now with extra ammunition back I went through the thread and proceeded to install SmartwatchM again. Of course I cleared my HTC Touch Dual and reset the watch first. So pairing again and then installation. I used the very helpful files provided by Schaggo (thanks Schaggo) with some small modification on the actual procedure (no outgoing port) and got my watch working.

By the way I also tested the appointment notification right away and they definitely do work with an alarm set.

So long story short, I will be testing this for a few days and then a donation is definitely in the offing.:D

There are a few items though, which I want to point out or emphasize:
a) Installation should be made easier, use btWatch as a guide;)
b) There are so many functions, it is becoming confusing. One needs to keep a cheat sheet near just to keep abreast. This should be made easier and a detailed write-up (recipe book) with all the button functions in one place would really help.

Currently using HTC Touch Dual WM 6.0, MBW-150 Executive. I may also try to use a Dopod 838 Pro with WM 6.0, which I still have in a drawer.:rolleyes:

Edit: Using SWM 0.200

moneytoo
25th February 2008, 04:05 PM
moneytoo,

Is it possible to scroll through all the functions by pressing only the FF or REW button? And using PLAY/STOP button to activate features in that function?

It's possible but I have to analyze more how it works.

Skiddy:
sWMconfig utility (v2) should set the com port without opening registry editor. No need to read Watch BT MAC address. I'm glad you got it working. :)

About some detailed installation guide / manual / readme: I really want to write something (with images if possible), it is already in my task list. But it will take some time (which I dont have much). If English would be my first language it will be much easier... :) I'll try.

ol2
25th February 2008, 05:34 PM
OK. Keep using v0.2.0.0 (a made v0.2.0.0 available to download again) and inform me if you find any further problem with e-mail notifiocations (I have some troules on my device. First it was working fine but the notifications stopped after some time.)

I went back to v0.2.0.0. Email notifications work most of the time, but occassionally the watch misses an email (perhaps 1 out of 10) and I get Error 003 on the phone. Not sure if this was the problem that v0.2.0.1 fixed but that release locks up for me.

axle7517
25th February 2008, 08:01 PM
So what's the next most important feature to include/improve/fix?
Do you really wont to read and browse through all your messages (sms/email/tasks/appointments/call history...)?
Anything else?





Hello Money too

check this (updated)

FIXES

> fIx appointment notification probleme for all devices
(for me still the same: notifaction of appointment with reminder do not work any way
the watch vibrate for any appointment , at the exacte time and not all appointment are notified)

> fix the voice mail notification

> fix this probleme (still hapens sometime for me)
in a icomming call , after accept the call the was continue vibrate 3 times

> change the button to check mails ( when 0 volume fonction long press top left button for exemple)

> improve stable connexion when using with any carkit or headset

> switch display in volume 5 from "profile, operator - battery, signal" to "battery, signal - profile, operator" because signal and baterrie is more important

> improve rss fonction : add possibility to select the feed or / and to read only new headlines + start refresh by pressing a button on watch


NEW features

> add GPS position and speed

> add multilanguage

> add world clock or another city time (for travellers)

> add weather forcast with spb wethear or else

> add auto profil : when the watch is connected , switch of phone ringer

> add the possibility in volume 1 /appointments to scroll the appointements of the day (by pressing FF/RW)

> add window alarme notification : to morning wake up !

> add the posibility to start calling a previously selected number (a number that we call more that 5 times a day) for the ones who use headset

> add the possibility to recall the last incoming call number (for head set mode)


over all thanks Moneytoo for smartwatch
as it is today , your application do enough and much more than we realy need each day and muc more than we could expect !
so this check list is not so important, improve/fix problemes is the most important now
add features if you like some
Great job
thanls

axle7517
25th February 2008, 08:14 PM
> Appointment notification : work at 50%
notifaction of appointment with reminder do not work correctly
i have to unselect appointment notification in setting, exit, restart smartwatch and reselect appointment notification in setting
this way it works 50% of the cases
i did more than 15 test in defirent condition (after reconect, etc) and i can't tell the condition when it don't work
i would like to Hard Reset my Kaiser, i think that sould work better after, but ii's take too much time
soon HTC P6500 will be out (2 weeks), i plan to buy it, i will install first of all smartwatch to test this appointment probleme
But moneytoo if you can fix it .... tell me if you want me to make same test or something

> i confirm there is a probleme with headset
in my case it's with car kit (one old SE)
when i'm online the connexion lost sometime (no problem with reconexion by presing a button)
on time it was an incomming call , the watch vibrate but impossible to take the call with carkit (by pressing the yes button on carkit)

> i confirm probleme with headset
With my Jabra BT8040 , (that as a AD2P profil) i can't tell if the sound is worst with smartwatch, but when i skip track or select volum there is a cut in the sound
this is not realy a probleme, and i think it is not smartwatch the problem , i think it's is the kaiser that can't handle this all those task as the same time

Regards

axle7517
25th February 2008, 08:17 PM
smartWatchM (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm.cab) 0.1.7.9

- improved stopwatch ("milliseconds", no blinking)
I really use this feature a lot (cooking etc. :)).

- fixed startup shortcut
Fixed no deleting shortcut on localized WM.

- battery line (messaging info screen)
Shows a line in Messaging info screen symbolizing battery power of connected WM device. (If you dont like the line, set battline to 0 in HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm)

- mute/unmute mic during call
@ol2: It's not the best solution but I hope it will work. Press FF (next track / press&hold top left button) to mute/unmute call.

- toggle loudspeaker/speakerphone during call
Press Stop (press&hold middle left button) to turn on/off loudspeaker.

- silent start
Minimize or hide sWM window on application start. I'm not sure how the minimizing will work on PPC so for enabling this you have to set a registry value (in HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm) silentstart to 1 (for minimize) or 2 (hide)




GREAT !!!
all works perfectly
the stop watch improvement and the batterie lines are very very usefull
i had no oppurtunity to test the mail fonction by now, i'll report later
thanks

nykolium
25th February 2008, 11:56 PM
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THANKS!

I Bought Sony Ericsson phone only for the watch.. :mad:

And... I 'so happy..., I'll change my phone and 'ill buy a new PPC phone!!

Thank you again!! and please don't stop research!!!
It' a realy realy realy good job!!!!!

An MWB 100 watch user ...

Thank you again.

moneytoo
26th February 2008, 12:20 AM
axle7517: Thanks for your report and ideas. ;)

I went back to v0.2.0.0. Email notifications work most of the time, but occassionally the watch misses an email (perhaps 1 out of 10) and I get Error 003 on the phone. Not sure if this was the problem that v0.2.0.1 fixed but that release locks up for me.

ol2: v0.2.0.2 - I fixed here several related issues so I hope now it will work more reliable (email/sms/mms notifications). I have missed few emails today as well so I hope tomorrow will be better. :)

Skiddy
26th February 2008, 02:24 AM
moneytoo

instead of outlook I am using Flexmail and for SMS a hacked version of the threaded Palm SMS program. Of course neither one of them show up on the watch. I guess it is a similar problem as weather and RSS for some others. Are there any registry values which could be set to rectify the problem?:)

By the way in my HTC Touch Dual I am not using Hub in the today display but did set it up with Chiang Mai for the weather and then simply took it off the today screen. The info comes through properly on the watch. So for any of you out there craving that function, there are hacks on the net so you can install the Hub. If you think it is taking to much screen real estate, simply disable it on the today screen.:D

In regards to the manual I may be able and willing to help, certainly with the English language. I am bilingual German (native) and English for too many years to remember. Sorry do not speak, read or write any other languages.;)

ol2
26th February 2008, 03:14 AM
axle7517: Thanks for your report and ideas. ;)



ol2: v0.2.0.2 - I fixed here several related issues so I hope now it will work more reliable (email/sms/mms notifications). I have missed few emails today as well so I hope tomorrow will be better. :)


Moneytoo: Looking good. Have received 15 emails without any misses. Great job.

Did you see my suggestion on the mute function a few pages back?...
"it's hard to know whether the phone is muted without looking at the phone because of the toggle. It would improve the usability if the watch displayed MUTE while the phone was muted. Alternatively (or in addition) you could use the down key for mute-on and the up key for mute-off rather than the toggle mechanism. "

Dont know if that's possible, but it would make the mute function more user friendly.

Thanks again.

DoughtCom
26th February 2008, 06:29 AM
Hey dude, been trying to get the logo to work with an incoming call. I set the filename to (this is a US #) 972#######.NOL. But it still won't show up, I've tried everything from 1(972)#######.NOL - +972#######.NOL. I've even made a bunch of them at once and restarted the app.

Note: ####### is the rest of the number of course :)

moneytoo
26th February 2008, 07:00 AM
Hey dude, been trying to get the logo to work with an incoming call. I set the filename to (this is a US #) 972#######.NOL. But it still won't show up, I've tried everything from 1(972)#######.NOL - +972#######.NOL. I've even made a bunch of them at once and restarted the app.

Note: ####### is the rest of the number of course :)

What about +1972xxx or +10972xxx? The number must be in the intrnational format. :)

DoughtCom
26th February 2008, 04:30 PM
I'll try the +10972#######, I did try the +1972####### but it didn't work, thanks I'll let you know!

-Shawn

bremair
26th February 2008, 05:12 PM
For me the Outlook-Standart is +49 (170) 123456. If I get a call the number ist displayed like this +491701234567. Should the latter be used in your addressbook for the watch?

punkokseng
27th February 2008, 04:40 PM
i bought the se mbw-150 once i came across this thread 2 days ago.
the installation of the smartWatchM v0.2.0.2 as well as the pairing with my HTC Touch went pretty smooth.
however, when i run the tests for SMS, E-mail & 2-line Text, the watch only display the message icon without any text.

on the HTC Touch, the console shows
***********************
AT*SETBC=192,16,1,"x2lines"
ERROR 031
***********************

can anyone able to help?
thanx.

bremair
27th February 2008, 05:48 PM
Hi today my MBW-150 Executive arrives :)
Easy installation now try all the functions. A how-to with all option incl. screenshots would be nice.
Great job moneytoo
donation will follow

*Edit
It is not possible the open sWM after it was hide? And I do a daily backup but today sWM wasn't start again and the watch wasn't connected. Might there be a way to autostart the prog after a automatic SR?

Paultnl
27th February 2008, 09:26 PM
I am now on my second MBW-150 Executive as the first one did not last more than 12 hours connected. This one will only do about 12.5, does my supplier have a bad batch? Has anyone else had similar experiance? I have followed the manual and given both watches a full overnight charge before using.

gtm55
27th February 2008, 09:55 PM
I am now on my second MBW-150 Executive as the first one did not last more than 12 hours connected. This one will only do about 12.5, does my supplier have a bad batch? Has anyone else had similar experiance? I have followed the manual and given both watches a full overnight charge before using.

I have the same problem with MBW-150 Exeecutive and HTC Athena WM6.1... on mine the battery last about 14 hours.

@moneytoo: do you think it is possible to have IM (IM+ for example) notification instead of rss? Thank you!

PBL1
27th February 2008, 10:29 PM
Thanks a lot Moneytoo for this great applet,so far what I tested work well and connection/disconnection works flawless,however I have a problem with my HBH DS970 headset, when the MBW 150 and headset are both connected, the music files wont run properly and the sound of the incoming and outgoing calls degrade.:(
I f anybody know a solution please post, otherwise it probably should be a good idea to post a list of compatible headsets in the fist page

In the mean time ill keep testing

Cheers and good work:)

Skiddy
28th February 2008, 02:09 AM
I have the same problem with MBW-150 Exeecutive and HTC Athena WM6.1... on mine the battery last about 14 hours.

@moneytoo: do you think it is possible to have IM (IM+ for example) notification instead of rss? Thank you!

yes, I certainly like the IM+ idea.:)

In regards to battery life 14 hours seems very low. Do you possibly have a constant barrage of notices lighting up the watch display? I just got my watch on Monday, charged it for two hours as suggested and the battery icon still shows about 2/3rds today on Thursday. I get a limited amount of notifications though. Only the last two days email was alerting me via the watch about every 5 to 10 minutes during waking hours, because I switched from Flexmail to P-outlook, so I can use the email feature on the watch. After manually entering the account information into P-outlook rather than using their auto feature it now works properly and only alerts me, when new email arrives.

Skiddy
28th February 2008, 02:24 AM
moneytoo

there truly seems to be a problem with the appointments. My life is more email and task rather than appointment oriented, so I have limited exposure to it. I did however notice, that an appointment, which I entered for the same day, did alert via the watch, however appointments, which had previously been entered for future days did not alert.

I cannot be sure, if this is a true bug or just something odd, since I have only had the watch for a few days but I will be looking out for this particular behaviour now.

Donation made, Confirmation number: 78P99490RK607360G.

Skiddy
28th February 2008, 02:37 AM
Hi today my MBW-150 Executive arrives :)
Easy installation now try all the functions. A how-to with all option incl. screenshots would be nice.
Great job moneytoo
donation will follow

*Edit
It is not possible the open sWM after it was hide? And I do a daily backup but today sWM wasn't start again and the watch wasn't connected. Might there be a way to autostart the prog after a automatic SR?

To show SmartWatchM again after hiding you have to hold the left top button (FF) on the watch.;)

There is the option to Autostart the program after a reset or similar. You can choose this during installation or in settings. This feature however is not working for me, because the bluetooth connection is likely slower establishing itself than SmartWatchM. So I have resolved to simply start-up SmartwatchM after a reset. It will then come up properly and asks to push a button on the watch to establish communication. Thereafter everything works fine.:cool:

moneytoo
28th February 2008, 08:10 AM
Appointment notifications: ithis feature will be completely rewrite some time soon.

Battery life: the battery should last at least for 3 days (or 3-5).

IM: I wanted some IM notification but didnt know what program to choose. I will try IM+ (and others) to see if there is any chance to finf new message notifications.

BT headsets & worse sound quality: I dont have any so please try following. Is the sound quality worse only when smartWatchM is running (make a call with connected watch but without sWM)? Second: Make a test call with other BT connected devices (BT GPS, BT keyboard...). Any effect?

gtm55
28th February 2008, 09:05 AM
IM: I wanted some IM notification but didnt know what program to choose. I will try IM+ (and others) to see if there is any chance to finf new message notifications.

THANK YOU!

bremair
28th February 2008, 02:18 PM
(...),however I have a problem with my HBH DS970 headset, when the MBW 150 and headset are both connected, the music files wont run properly and the sound of the incoming and outgoing calls degrade.:(
I f anybody know a solution please post, otherwise it probably should be a good idea to post a list of compatible headsets in the fist page
(...)

I just tested my headset and it works as usually. It's a Plantronics Discovery 665.
But is it right that when I'm calling the watch lost there connection? After the call I got the connected logo again.

Pernod99
28th February 2008, 03:43 PM
Appointment notifications: ithis feature will be completely rewrite some time soon.

My last Hope ..... :o

Battery life: the battery should last at least for 3 days (or 3-5).
My MBW-150 alife ~14 Days/ca. 2 Hours per Day connect

Wish:
E-Mail notify with ProfiMail 2.8x (http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail);)

Skiddy
28th February 2008, 03:43 PM
Appointment notifications: ithis feature will be completely rewrite some time soon.

Battery life: the battery should last at least for 3 days (or 3-5).

IM: I wanted some IM notification but didnt know what program to choose. I will try IM+ (and others) to see if there is any chance to finf new message notifications.

BT headsets & worse sound quality: I dont have any so please try following. Is the sound quality worse only when smartWatchM is running (make a call with connected watch but without sWM)? Second: Make a test call with other BT connected devices (BT GPS, BT keyboard...). Any effect?

IM+ is consistently one of the top 10 best selling programs at Handango, Shape Services can probably help you out where to find and pick the required info.:)

ol2
28th February 2008, 05:21 PM
IM Notifications would be a great addition. The problem is there are so many IM clients. I am using CommonTime's Chat client for Sametime. When a new IM arrives the client generates an Info Notification. Actually, it would be excellent if smartWatchM could intercept any Info, Alert, Warning notification and send it to the watch (I am referring to the pop-ups that are implemented by Window Mobile - i.e. they are listed in "Other Sounds"). Then we would get notifications on the watch for many general events such as Low Battery, NewsBreak RSS notifications etc. This general capability would work with a lot of different software including some IM clients and would provide a lot of useful notifications on the watch.

victoradjei
28th February 2008, 05:50 PM
BT headsets & worse sound quality: I dont have any so please try following. Is the sound quality worse only when smartWatchM is running (make a call with connected watch but without sWM)? Second: Make a test call with other BT connected devices (BT GPS, BT keyboard...). Any effect?

Moneytoo, this is my observation of using Bt headsets (I have many of them including SE DS980, Sony DR-BT10CX, Moto S9) with smartWatchM. All of them play well with the watch connected when I am playing music using Coreplayer, tcpmp, and even Audio Manager. It seems the problem is ONLY with WM Player. And this is the problem: The sound to the headset stutters at the begining of each song for about 5 seconds and plays on smoothly untill it ends. The next song starts for a second, and then enters stutter mode for another 5 seconds before stabilising again. I have not tested it with calls, but when the phone is in the stutter mode it also becomes extremely slow when I am opening a file or some other operation. I suspect that communicating the song title to the watch has to do with it. I also know that WM player is a huge memory hog. You can check how much RAM you have before and during music playback with WM player and compare with the other players.

I hope you can find a solution to that problem, or get the song information to display with the other players, preferably Coreplayer, and by implication TCPMP :)

My phone is HTC Touch Cruise.

McDoPDA
28th February 2008, 07:03 PM
The software works fine with my MBW-150 and my HTC S620, but I'm going to change my S620 for a Palm Treo 750. Do you think it will work with it ?

bremair
28th February 2008, 07:15 PM
It's a Windows Mobile Smartphone optimize by palm so it should work.

moneytoo
28th February 2008, 11:04 PM
Pernod99 and others with appointment notifications problems:

smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) - this is a version with rewritten appointment notifications. I dont have much time to test it but it should work...

NRGZ28
28th February 2008, 11:39 PM
Is there any chance we can get an option NOT to display the sender's email address when a new email is received ? Currently it shows their name and the email address. I think showing the email address is useless... :)

JimSmith94
29th February 2008, 02:09 AM
BT headsets & worse sound quality: I dont have any so please try following. Is the sound quality worse only when smartWatchM is running (make a call with connected watch but without sWM)? Second: Make a test call with other BT connected devices (BT GPS, BT keyboard...). Any effect?
I haven't noticed any degradation in the sound quality with my BT headset on my Sprint Mogul PPC-6800, but my MBW-150 vibrates as it loses its BT connection roughly once a minute while I'm on a call. :(

When I installed smartWatchM, the only COM ports that worked were COM0 and COM2. I have tried and get the same results with both. Are any Mogul users able to use any other COM ports?

schaggo
29th February 2008, 03:35 AM
Actually, it would be excellent if smartWatchM could intercept any Info, Alert, Warning notification and send it to the watch (I am referring to the pop-ups that are implemented by Window Mobile - i.e. they are listed in "Other Sounds"). Then we would get notifications on the watch for many general events such as Low Battery, NewsBreak RSS notifications etc. This general capability would work with a lot of different software including some IM clients and would provide a lot of useful notifications on the watch.

This is a freakin awesome idea! This is, boy, just great! Why didnt anybody think of that any earlier?

McDoPDA
29th February 2008, 04:59 PM
It's a Windows Mobile Smartphone optimize by palm so it should work.Thanks for your reply. I will receive the Tréo 750 on tuesday and try SmartWatchM ;)

ol2
29th February 2008, 06:30 PM
Moneytoo: I think there is a big memory leak. I am running v0.2.0.3. When smartWatchM starts it uses about 800KB of memory. After 5 minutes it uses about 5MB. After 30 minutes it uses about 14MB. Not too long after that, windows kills the process.

Pernod99
29th February 2008, 08:17 PM
Pernod99 and others with appointment notifications problems:

smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) - this is a version with rewritten appointment notifications. I dont have much time to test it but it should work...

1. First Test it did work, very good :D

BUT

2. A Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978543&postcount=593) (After 2 Min. start, 14 MB Memory/RAM stolen, later PPC "Freeze") :mad:

For the time being, I go back to V. 0.1.7.0, since unfortunately too much RAM is "stolen." But further so .... ;)


P.S.
If I close sWM, RAM is available again.

moneytoo
29th February 2008, 08:25 PM
Pernod99: Im glad it finally works for you. :) I'm just fixing the memory issues and will post the the version after couple of tests.
Thanks for your reports and your time, guys. ;)

Pernod99
29th February 2008, 08:34 PM
Pernod99: Im glad it finally works for you. :) I'm just fixing the memory issues and will post the the version after couple of tests.
Thanks for your reports and your time, guys. ;)

If it works reliably, it was an honor you for me to help :D
If not ....... go into hell ;)

WhiteMonkey
1st March 2008, 01:50 AM
Hi Moneytoo,

First off.... wow! I've been ogling these watches for too long. To the point where I almost (but not quite) considered purchasing a crappy SE phone just so I could use this cool watch.

The fact that you have not only managed to replicate the functionality, but extend it... I bow down to you! :)

Now, I don't own any of these watches - yet - but I am now definitely going to buy one (they should really give you commission...). The Question is: which one?

Personally, I really prefer the styling of the MBW-100 over all of the MBW-150s, but you say that it has "limited functionality". I've read through all of the posts, but I can't quite figure out what the latest info is regarding this - what exactly do you mean by "limited"? I understand (perhaps wrongly) that you thought you could use pixel fonts to recreate the 2 line display of the MBW-150 on the MBW-100? And maybe the other functions too?

Perhaps you could update your table at the beginning ("Current Status") to include not only SE phones vs. WM phones, but also each of the main watch lines and what they can do? Or have more info in the "Compatible Watch" section? Either would be much appreciated!

Thanks again for this sterling effort! Rock on! :cool:

bremair
1st March 2008, 10:01 AM
Hi moneytoo, i just donate 2 x 10 USD (Code 26990651V8132220M) & (Code 3A713309FU335900M) for your great job.
Keep up the good work!

moneytoo
1st March 2008, 11:35 PM
Moneytoo: I think there is a big memory leak. I am running v0.2.0.3. When smartWatchM starts it uses about 800KB of memory. After 5 minutes it uses about 5MB. After 30 minutes it uses about 14MB. Not too long after that, windows kills the process.

Try it with this version - sWM app 2 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint2.cab). If the memory will stay at some decent level, than it's fine. If not, test this - sWM app 3 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint3.cab).


WhiteMonkey: The 2-lined text has no scrolling on MBW-100 so sometimes it doesnt display as much information as on MBW-150.
The navigation throught the menu isn't that fast and comfortable as with MBW-150.


bremair: Thanks, man. ;)
Thank all of you who donated. It wouldnt be possible to go that far without your donations (I spent most of the money on some libraries so I was able to add some enhanced features more quickly), help and reports.

NRGZ28
1st March 2008, 11:40 PM
Hey moneytoo... Does the caller logo feature work yet ? I've noticed in a few previous posts other people couldnt get it to work either. Mine doesnt display anything when I put a .nol file in the directory with that caller's number as the file name.

moneytoo
1st March 2008, 11:54 PM
Hey moneytoo... Does the caller logo feature work yet ? I've noticed in a few previous posts other people couldnt get it to work either. Mine doesnt display anything when I put a .nol file in the directory with that caller's number as the file name.

Yeah, it still works.

Try if the test logo works. If so, try renaming your logo to test_logo.nol and see if it will display or not.
The number must match exactly. Go to the sWM menu "Last call" info and see what number (format) does it show.

NRGZ28
1st March 2008, 11:59 PM
OKay. I'll try that. Maybe my .nol file was corrupted. By the way, would it be possible to include an option to remove displaying the actual email address when a new email comes in ?

ol2
2nd March 2008, 02:55 PM
Try it with this version - sWM app 2 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint2.cab). If the memory will stay at some decent level, than it's fine. If not, test this - sWM app 3 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint3.cab).


Thanks Moneytoo. App 2 did not fix the memory usage problem, it went over 14MB fairly quickly. App 3 seems to use just under 4MB (which is still quite a bit) but did not grow beyond that. I have not tested App 3 much so I don't know whether all the notifications are working correctly. I did notice that RSS has not worked for the last few versions (using NewsBreak).

Pernod99
2nd March 2008, 04:06 PM
Thanks Moneytoo. App 2 did not fix the memory usage problem, it went over 14MB fairly quickly. App 3 seems to use just under 4MB (which is still quite a bit) but did not grow beyond that. I have not tested App 3 much so I don't know whether all the notifications are working correctly. I did notice that RSS has not worked for the last few versions (using NewsBreak).

Here the same, but App 3 use 8-10 MB RAM/Memory :( and CPU usage 95-100 % (~30 Seconds after sWM Start)

Appointment Notify works (2 Tests) :D, but notify/reminder after Appointment (exact point of time) did ot work :(

bremair
2nd March 2008, 06:18 PM
For me the autostart option is quite important. I use Spb Backup for a daily backup of my PPC. The pin would be insert automatically by Spb after the backup the watch is again connected but the app didn't start again although I checked "Autostart" in "Settings".

Pernod99
2nd March 2008, 07:15 PM
Here the same, but App 3 use 8-10 MB RAM/Memory :-( and CPU usage 95-100 % (~30 Seconds after sWM Start)

Appointment Notify works (2 Tests) :-), but notify/reminder after Appointment (exact point of time) did ot work :(

EDIT:
After few other "Appointment notify" Tests ("Test Appointments") it did NOT work :mad: :confused:

I do not know why :(

moneytoo
2nd March 2008, 07:23 PM
EDIT:
After few other "Appointment notify" Tests ("Test Appointments") it did NOT work :mad: :confused:

I do not know why :(

I think I've found sources of the problem. Now it runs much more memory savy for me. I will post it later tonight (last test version).

BTW, how many appointments do you have stored in your calendar?

Pernod99
2nd March 2008, 07:46 PM
I think I've found sources of the problem. Now it runs much more memory savy for me. I will post it later tonight (last test version).

BTW, how much appointments do you have stored in your calendar?

All in All ca. 1500 (Outlook)

NOW the GAG ........ your "Test" Version smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) works without this "Appointments Notify" Problems.
But it has the Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) Bug extremly !!!
This 1. Version without Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) is OK !!!

moneytoo
2nd March 2008, 10:11 PM
All in All ca. 1500 (Outlook)

NOW the GAG ........ your "Test" Version smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) works without this "Appointments Notify" Problems.
But it has the Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) Bug extremly !!!
This 1. Version without Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) is OK !!!

OK, here is the last test version sWM app 6 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint6.cab). If this wont work, I will give up.

wgary
2nd March 2008, 10:37 PM
After reading this thread, I decided to take the plunge and buy the MBW-150 "regular edition."

General Impressions

1. Moneytoo, along with pcfixitman, have done an awesome job in making this a totally fantastic device. I have gotten SWM working, and everything works as advertised, although see a few small caveats below. I am totally blown away by how cool this is. The screen shots don't do it justice. Very well designed and functional.

2. I thought the watch might be heavy and cumbersome, not so. Quite comfortable. A little on the large side, but generally stylish looks.

3. I have an Athena (HTC Advantage), which is a monster. I was relying on a Jabra BT8010 to vibrate and provide "remote" functionality. That is totally primitive next to the MBW-150.

4. Settings in the program work well.

Installation Experience

Getting it to work was challenging. Here were the "keys" to my success on the Advantage:

1. Follow the directions in post 1 exactly.

2. Adjust the registry settings to set up COM1, as suggested by paultnl, since COM6 seems not to be available on the Advantage. (I had no luck with the configuration program, did this using Resco File Explorer.) Changes:
First key, change PORT to COM1
Second key, change name to BTD_COM1 and change index to 1.

3. I'm not sure if this step was necessary, but it seemed to work. (Coincidence?) I kept getting IOException errors. After checking around, I installed .NET CF3.5 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e3821449-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en
After that the errors stopped. Mostly.

4. The following suggestion (linked from Post 1) on startup procedure on the phone was necessary for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1871441&postcount=46

Caveats/Suggestions
As I said to begin with, the concept and execution are excellent! All features have worked as advertised. I do have a few small items that I haven't quite worked out. Maybe it's a bug, maybe I don't quite understand.

1. Reconnection seems to be an issue. I had it working last night. Walked out of range, but it wouldn't reconnect when I came back in range. In fact, nothing I did would reconnect. I finally deleted the pairing and repaired. Then it worked. It would be great if this could improved, or maybe someone can enlighten me.
((EDIT: Just now went through a successful disconnect/reconnect. First time! Maybe this will be a good sign!))

2. Appointments do work. But it seems like the next appointment won't show until the current one is finished. It would be nice to scroll to upcoming ones...

3. WMP option didn't work that well. But not a big deal for me, actually couldn't care less since I use CorePlayer.

4. The volume control/select method is a little cumbersome. It does work, but hard to hit the feature you want to times.

5. It would be nice if the setting would revert to the last event. That is, if a text message comes in, hitting middle key would bring that info. Just a thought. ((EDIT: Moneytoo just pointed out that hitting upper right three times will give the last message.))

6. Documentation on the phone and program are "sparse". Took a little experimentation. Here's the quick guide:
* Lower right key: Set watch modes -- BT on/off, etc. (Upper right key toggles the mode)
* Upper right key: Display date, date, SWM current info by successive taps.
* Upper/lower left key: "Volume controls" -- use these to select what function you want to display. Length of bar corresponds to the "numbers" in post 1, but the numbers aren't shown. To make the function appear:
* Middle left key: Invoke SWM function. (Note: if displays date or time, hit upper right key to bring it back)

Summary

The combination of this watch and SWM is totally awesome. I feel so Dick Tracy/Star Trek/... Even better, it really works and is really useful! A little "donation" to keep up the excellent work will follow. Awesome work, you guys!

epicurean
3rd March 2008, 08:48 AM
I just ordered an MBW-150 for my Kaiser (loaded with Dutty's 6.1 ROM).

What is the most stable version of SWM for use with this combination so far that does not require complicated registry changes?

Pernod99
3rd March 2008, 03:20 PM
OK, here is the last test version sWM app 6 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint6.cab). If this wont work, I will give up.
I believe, I have the solution / reason why (at east with me), problems with "Appointment Notify".
But I can NOT explain in English because it is too difficult for my School English :o
I try it once .....
Example:
Dentist-Date of 15 o'clock for 16 o'clock. Other dates between this 15 - 16 o'clock is at the MBW-150 become NOT shown / reminds. At the PPC already however.
Understand ?

Pernod99
3rd March 2008, 09:01 PM
All in All ca. 1500 (Outlook)

NOW the GAG ........ your "Test" Version smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) works without this "Appointments Notify" Problems.
But it has the Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) Bug extremly !!!
This 1. Version without Big Memory Leak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1978826&postcount=594) is OK !!!

After a lot of Tests .....

This Version (smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab)) is the best Version for "Appointment Notify. But it has "Big Memory Leak" Problems.

All following Versions (sWM app 1-6) are a little bit better with relation to "Big Memory Leak" (Eat not so much RAM), but NOT with "Appointment Notify" (Do not remind/notify).

I do not know why, but sometimes "Appointment Notify" work very well on MBW-150 & Asus P750 with all Software Versions, but sometimes not :confused:
First I have believe to find the Solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1985788&postcount=612), but it is not so .... :(

wgary
3rd March 2008, 09:01 PM
Duplicate Message

wgary
3rd March 2008, 09:10 PM
I am using 2.0.2. A few notes:

Appointment reminders are generally working. There are some issues when an appointment overlaps, but I can't work out a pattern. It may have something to do with when one is a subset of the other, but I'm not sure.

When overlapping appointment occur, the one shown under option 1 seems be the oldest active appointment, except maybe near the end of the appointment?? Again, I'm struggling to find the pattern.

E-mail/SMS notification is working well, but option 2 (e-mail/sms info) seems to give the latest SMS, doesn't seem to keep track of e-mail.

Triple press on upper right retrieves last displayed message, from what I can tell. A nice feature to get back to retrieve latest notification quickly.

No problem with memory leak, but watch battery seems to be draining -- about 1/3 in 7 hours.

Question: What happens when there are overlapping announcements (e-mail comes in the same time an appointment reminder is set to go off)? I suspect this may be the cause of some missed notices.

Suggestion: It would be nice to have some sort of scroll ability to go back through recent messages... but I understand there are only so possibilities.

Summary: First full day at work with this, and I am finding it very useful!

epicurean
4th March 2008, 12:37 AM
I just ordered an MBW-150 for my Kaiser (loaded with Dutty's 6.1 ROM).

What is the most stable version of SWM for use with this combination so far that does not require complicated registry changes?

Appreciate any forum feedback on this. Thanks!

JimSmith94
4th March 2008, 12:56 AM
I just ordered an MBW-150 for my Kaiser (loaded with Dutty's 6.1 ROM).

What is the most stable version of SWM for use with this combination so far that does not require complicated registry changes?
I have the MBW-150 and use it on my Mogul. I use sWMconfig.exe to set up the registry automatically, with no manual edits necessary. I'm using v0.2.0.2 and memory usage stays at a little less than 1M.

It works well, other than the watch loses the Bluetooth connection once a minute or so when I use my Bluetooth headset for making calls. For some reason, I can't use the recommended COM6, and the only COM ports that work for me are COM0 and COM2. I get the same results with either port.

bremair
4th March 2008, 08:40 AM
What about the autostart in the settings, for me it didn't work. After a softreset sWM wouldn't start again.

Tupac_Shakur
4th March 2008, 09:53 AM
I have the MBW-150 and use it on my Mogul. I use sWMconfig.exe to set up the registry automatically, with no manual edits necessary. I'm using v0.2.0.2 and memory usage stays at a little less than 1M.

It works well, other than the watch loses the Bluetooth connection once a minute or so when I use my Bluetooth headset for making calls. For some reason, I can't use the recommended COM6, and the only COM ports that work for me are COM0 and COM2. I get the same results with either port.

try using btWatch by pcfixitman instead, I had the same problem, I tried his application, it seems to run better then smartwatchM also.

moneytoo
4th March 2008, 09:57 AM
What about the autostart in the settings, for me it didn't work. After a softreset sWM wouldn't start again.

Create a shortcut in StartUp folder if you want to load sWM on every WM restart.

I just ordered an MBW-150 for my Kaiser (loaded with Dutty's 6.1 ROM).

What is the most stable version of SWM for use with this combination so far that does not require complicated registry changes?

The latest one - 0.2.0.2. But I will release newer version with few minor fixes in a few days.

Question: What happens when there are overlapping announcements (e-mail comes in the same time an appointment reminder is set to go off)? I suspect this may be the cause of some missed notices.

I dont know about the overlapping (havent tested yet). But that's true - sWM reminds only the latest event, whatever it is (appointment, mail, sms, missed call...).

E-mail/SMS notification is working well, but option 2 (e-mail/sms info) seems to give the latest SMS, doesn't seem to keep track of e-mail.

If there is unread sms it displays it, otherwise e-mail is displayed.

bremair
4th March 2008, 12:28 PM
I'm testing the caller logo right now. For that here is a file with 1672 gif-logos (Nokia Operator Logo) and a converter to nol.
So you may find the right one for you.

A question for moneytoo, is it possible that an unknown caller is displayed by a caller logo, too?

epicurean
4th March 2008, 02:49 PM
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Will wait for Moneytoo's latest release as suggested!

bartito
4th March 2008, 08:49 PM
hi,
sartwatchm 0.2.0.2 working fine with my mbw150 and my ahena with wm5 and 1.38 radio rom.
thanks

NRGZ28
4th March 2008, 09:57 PM
I'm testing the caller logo right now. For that here is a file with 1672 gif-logos (Nokia Operator Logo) and a converter to nol.
So you may find the right one for you.

A question for moneytoo, is it possible that an unknown caller is displayed by a caller logo, too?

None of the logos your posted work, because they're all GIF89a which gif2nol.exe doesnt support!

punkokseng
5th March 2008, 05:04 PM
moneytoo, not sure if this interests you.
I performed a hard-rest of my HTC-Touch and re-install my apps (with smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 being first app to be installed).
the smartwatchM worked fine until I installed the CE-Star 2.8.
that's the point where I re-encounter the below-quoted error.
let me know if you are interested to debug this.


i bought the se mbw-150 once i came across this thread 2 days ago.
the installation of the smartWatchM v0.2.0.2 as well as the pairing with my HTC Touch went pretty smooth.
however, when i run the tests for SMS, E-mail & 2-line Text, the watch only display the message icon without any text.

on the HTC Touch, the console shows
***********************
AT*SETBC=192,16,1,"x2lines"
ERROR 031
***********************

can anyone able to help?
thanx.

Dave2121
5th March 2008, 05:53 PM
Hello moneytoo,
I have an MBW-150 and a Bluetooth USB device in my windows PC. I have been attempting to write a simple application that runs on my PC and communicates to the watch via a bluetooth connection. I have read through your posts and those by pcfixitman, and this information has been extremely helpful.

Currently I can pass text to the watch via +CLIP. I can pass graphic data via *SETBC.

I have seen in your posts that you can pass a logo graphic to the watch display that does not include the play graphic |> on the far right of the display. I think you are doing this with the +GCLIP AT command.

I have a need to pass a graphic image to the display without the |> play graphic on the far right of the display like I get when I use the *SETBC command.

Can you direct me as to how to do this? Is it with a +GCLIP? If so, what is the sequence of AT commands I need to use for +GCLIP?

I have tried the following in an attempt to light-up the whole display:

+CIEV:2,1
+GCLIP:0, ”FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF” (24 ‘F’s for 96 bits all turned on)
+GCLIP:1, ”FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF”

+GCLIP:15,”FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF”
+CIEV:2,0

However, this does not work.

I truly appreciate any guidance you can give me as to how to place a pure graphic image (as you do with your logo graphics) on the MBW-150 display via AT commands, without any other watch imposed graphic images (like the |> play graphic) being added to the display along with my graphic image.

Thank you,
Dave2121

moneytoo
5th March 2008, 06:07 PM
Dave2121:

Can you direct me as to how to do this? Is it with a +GCLIP?

Yup.

You have to send GCLIP only twice (i havent tried anything else, 8x98 and 8x98. Yes, it's 98, not 96. But I'm not 100% sure right now.) +GCLIP:0,"xxx" +GCLIP:1,"xxx"

NRGZ28
5th March 2008, 06:10 PM
Any ideas why the caller logos dont work at all ? I've been trying for two days to get it to work. In a previous post you instructed me to go to Last Call Info to find out what format the number is in. Well it's in this format on my phone... 1 (XXX) XXX-XXXX. If I rename the test_logo.nol file to to (XXX) XXX-XXXX.nol it doesnt show up when that person calls. It still shows their name. I renamed it to XXXXXX-XXXX.nol and just the numbers, I even tried +01XXXXXXXXXX.nol and it still wont show up. Is there some magic trick to get this to work ? :P

moneytoo
5th March 2008, 06:14 PM
Any ideas why the caller logos dont work at all ? I've been trying for two days to get it to work. In a previous post you instructed me to go to Last Call Info to find out what format the number is in. Well it's in this format on my phone... 1 (XXX) XXX-XXXX. If I rename the test_logo.nol file to to (XXX) XXX-XXXX.nol it doesnt show up when that person calls. It still shows their name. I renamed it to XXXXXX-XXXX.nol and just the numbers, I even tried +01XXXXXXXXXX.nol and it still wont show up. Is there some magic trick to get this to work ? :P

OK, I will add test log in the next release what logo file sWM tries to load on incoming call.

moneytoo, not sure if this interests you.
I performed a hard-rest of my HTC-Touch and re-install my apps (with smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 being first app to be installed).
the smartwatchM worked fine until I installed the CE-Star 2.8.
that's the point where I re-encounter the below-quoted error.
let me know if you are interested to debug this.

If you uninstall CE-Star does it make sWM work ok again?

Dave2121
5th March 2008, 08:39 PM
Moneytoo,
thank you for the update on +GCLIP. This is working perfectly now. I have one follow-on question. Is there any AT command sequence that will allow me to control the OLED display brightness. If possible, I would like to display my graphic image at less thank 100% brightness.

As before, your guidance is greatly appreciated.
Dave2121

McDoPDA
5th March 2008, 10:23 PM
Hello,

I try to use smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 with my Treo 750 and my MBW-150, but I've got IO error messages when pushing start. I tried all the com ports available.

Any idea of what I can do ?

I use it with my HTC S620 with success...

beginner
5th March 2008, 11:35 PM
Hi Moneytoo

Do you think should be possible to use this programs to do the headset vibrate when income mail arrives?


Thanks.

moneytoo
6th March 2008, 12:17 AM
Any ideas why the caller logos dont work at all ? I've been trying for two days to get it to work. In a previous post you instructed me to go to Last Call Info to find out what format the number is in. Well it's in this format on my phone... 1 (XXX) XXX-XXXX. If I rename the test_logo.nol file to to (XXX) XXX-XXXX.nol it doesnt show up when that person calls. It still shows their name. I renamed it to XXXXXX-XXXX.nol and just the numbers, I even tried +01XXXXXXXXXX.nol and it still wont show up. Is there some magic trick to get this to work ? :P

It's in v0.2.0.4. See the text log to found what should be the filename (or a bug :)).

epicurean
6th March 2008, 04:12 AM
Moneytoo,

Thanks for the continual updates. What are the new changes in the latest version?

NRGZ28
6th March 2008, 08:00 AM
It's in v0.2.0.4. See the text log to found what should be the filename (or a bug :)).


I installed the new version and called my phone a couple of times. Didnt see a text file being created in the application's directory. Where or how does the text log get created ?


Sorry, I just figured out you mean the scrolling text in the application window. DOH! haha

Skiddy
6th March 2008, 08:06 AM
I installed the new version and called my phone a couple of times. Didnt see a text file being created in the application's directory. Where or how does the text log get created ?

Its in the scrolling text of the application, no idea if it is being stored. Just called myself and the following text showed:

No logo found.
Looking for logo file: \Program Files\smartmadsoft\smartWatchM(0xx) xxx-xxx.nol;)

NRGZ28
6th March 2008, 08:10 AM
Yep, just tested it myself also and now it works. I swear I renamed it to the exact same format with the previous version of the app and it didnt work. Maybe moneytoo fixed it now :) I guess a donation is in order.... :D Now if he removed the email address from the email notification and just leave the sender's name, he would make me even happier. LOL

moneytoo
6th March 2008, 08:14 AM
Its in the scrolling text of the application, no idea if it is being stored. Just called myself and the following text showed:

No logo found.
Looking for logo file: \Program Files\smartmadsoft\smartWatchM(0xx) xxx-xxx.nol;)

Seems like one backslash is missing. I will fix this in the next release. You can temporarily fix it yourself - edit registry key hklm/software/smartmadsoft/smartwatchm and add a backslash at the end of path key.

Skiddy
6th March 2008, 08:19 AM
Seems like one backslash is missing. I will fix this in the next release. You can temporarily fix it yourself - edit registry key hklm/software/smartmadsoft/smartwatchm and add a backslash at the end of path key.

Moneytoo,

backslash is there, its just my typo

Skiddy
6th March 2008, 08:21 AM
Yep, just tested it myself also and now it works. I swear I renamed it to the exact same format with the previous version of the app and it didnt work. Maybe moneytoo fixed it now :) I guess a donation is in order.... :D Now if he removed the email address from the email notification and just leave the sender's name, he would make me even happier. LOL

stripping the email address is likely not a good idea. There are some emails, which come through with just the first name and some without any name, so in that case the email address would definitely be required.;)

bremair
6th March 2008, 08:33 AM
None of the logos your posted work, because they're all GIF89a which gif2nol.exe doesnt support!
Save it as bmp and use the bmp2nol converter moneytoo offers here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1925698&postcount=377)

NRGZ28
6th March 2008, 08:35 AM
True. I use activesync with an exchange server, so the full name always comes through. Maybe moneytoo can implement a registry key that can turn the display of the email address on/off.... :)

NRGZ28
6th March 2008, 08:57 AM
Save it as bmp and use the bmp2nol converter moneytoo offers here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1925698&postcount=377)

I found it much easier to just convert the files to GIF87a format. Other people might not find it as easy though...

bremair
6th March 2008, 09:30 AM
I don't have the right software for it. I did it the other way round.

Pernod99
6th March 2008, 11:33 AM
After a lot of Tests .....

This Version (smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab)) is the best Version for "Appointment Notify. But it has "Big Memory Leak" Problems.

All following Versions (sWM app 1-6) are a little bit better with relation to "Big Memory Leak" (Eat not so much RAM), but NOT with "Appointment Notify" (Do not remind/notify).

I do not know why, but sometimes "Appointment Notify" work very well on MBW-150 & Asus P750 with all Software Versions, but sometimes not :confused:
First I have believe to find the Solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1985788&postcount=612), but it is not so .... :(

@moneytoo
No comment ?
All Versions 0.2.xx NO "Appointment Notify" and "Big Memory Leak" (12-14 MB RAM) & 95-100 % CPU Usage

Fix smartwatchm_appoint.cab (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm_appoint.cab) "Big Memory Leak" Problem or :confused:

McDoPDA
6th March 2008, 05:48 PM
Hello,

I try to use smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 with my Treo 750 and my MBW-150, but I've got IO error messages when pushing start. I tried all the com ports available.

Any idea of what I can do ?

I use it with my HTC S620 with success...Who can help me please ?

bremair
6th March 2008, 05:58 PM
Try the new version and maybe use the sWMconfig utility finding in first post.

wgary
6th March 2008, 06:14 PM
Caller ID with incoming call is truncating on my phone. Is it possible to do a 2-line display with incoming calls?
Line 1 - Name
Line 2 - Number
Or just use the smaller font with what you are already doing?

This isn't a big deal, I can usually tell what's going on. But if it isn't hard to do...

Many thanks for all the hard work!

McDoPDA
6th March 2008, 09:47 PM
Try the new version and maybe use the sWMconfig utility finding in first post.Done, but still the IO error...:(

Paultnl
6th March 2008, 11:30 PM
Done, but still the IO error...:(

try different Com ports

moneytoo
7th March 2008, 12:04 AM
Hello,

I try to use smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 with my Treo 750 and my MBW-150, but I've got IO error messages when pushing start. I tried all the com ports available.

Any idea of what I can do ?

I use it with my HTC S620 with success...

Does Palm Treo 750 have MS BT stack?
Does btWatch work?

I cant test it on 750 myself but I could install sWM on 700v (WM5).

bartito
7th March 2008, 01:30 PM
Hi Moneytoo,

When the watch is far to the phone, and the connection was losed, the watch vibrates.
When the watch is (newly) near to the phone, your software reestablishes automatically the connection.
Is possible to add a feature in the new release to make a vibration in the watch when the
phone and the watch are auto-connected ?

thank's

bart

beginner
7th March 2008, 01:37 PM
hy moneytoo

should be possible to use your software to have the headset vibrating with income mails?

moneytoo
7th March 2008, 01:57 PM
Hi Moneytoo,

When the watch is far to the phone, and the connection was losed, the watch vibrates.
When the watch is (newly) near to the phone, your software reestablishes automatically the connection.
Is possible to add a feature in the new release to make a vibration in the watch when the
phone and the watch are auto-connected ?

thank's

bart

Yes, I can make this as an option.

hy moneytoo

should be possible to use your software to have the headset vibrating with income mails?

How should I control the headset? The only idea I got is to simulate a call. :)

Hello,

I try to use smartwatchM v0.2.0.2 with my Treo 750 and my MBW-150, but I've got IO error messages when pushing start. I tried all the com ports available.

Any idea of what I can do ?

I use it with my HTC S620 with success...

No problem on Treo 700w (WM5).

beginner
7th March 2008, 02:51 PM
How should I control the headset? The only idea I got is to simulate a call. :)


THAT SHOULD BE GREAT, A SIMULATE CALL AND MAYBE A DISPLAY MESSAGE AS 'MAL'. IF YOU ACHIEVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE TONS OF ATHENA/JABRA USERS LOVING YOU.

bartito
7th March 2008, 03:53 PM
hi,
i have installed the 0.2.0.4 version of smartwatch.
the appointments are not displayed at the watch.
i have readed at the thread about a "smartwatchm_appointment.cab"
what version of smartwatch are included in this smartwatchm_appointment program?
regards

Pernod99
7th March 2008, 04:30 PM
hi,
i have installed the 0.2.0.4 version of smartwatch.
the appointments are not displayed at the watch.
i have readed at the thread about a "smartwatchm_appointment.cab"
what version of smartwatch are included in this smartwatchm_appointment program?
regards

Yes, same situation for me :(. moneytoo did not comment my pleadings :-((.
"smartwatchm_appointment.cab" fix (most of) my "Appoinment Notify" Problems, but has a Big RAM/Memory problem ....., it devour 12-14 MB of my RAM :(
moneytoo give up, unfortunately.
MBW-150 Ex. & Asus P750

McDoPDA
7th March 2008, 04:45 PM
Does Palm Treo 750 have MS BT stack?
Does btWatch work?

I can't test it on 750 myself but I could install sWM on 700v (WM5).I don't know if it is the MS BT stack. See the screen capture.

I put a Screen capture of the error too.

Didn't try Btwatch

bremair
7th March 2008, 06:16 PM
I still have lot of problems with the autostart option. After a Softreset the app didn't run as before. I did an entry in startup and also selected autostart in settings. But after a Softreset a still have to start the app manually and press a button at the watch. After that the app runs completely.
Maybe you could add a solution in the next version.

bartito
7th March 2008, 08:30 PM
in my athena, at begin, i have configured fot com6 port usage, and i have the same error. next, i have configured smartw to use com1 port and no more problems.
read the post 2 of this thread, my friend
regards
I don't know if it is the MS BT stack. See the screen capture.

I put a Screen capture of the error too.

Didn't try Btwatch

McDoPDA
7th March 2008, 11:05 PM
in my athena, at begin, i have configured fot com6 port usage, and i have the same error. next, i have configured smartw to use com1 port and no more problems.
read the post 2 of this thread, my friend
regardsThanks. I tried again with all the com ports and it finally works with the port 2 ! Thanks again !:D

NRGZ28
7th March 2008, 11:59 PM
Does anybody have a problem with the latest .04 version locking up the phone ? Ever since I installed it, my Tmobile Dash (HTC S621) will not wake up after I lock the keyboard. I have to take the battery out in order to reboot the phone.

McDoPDA
8th March 2008, 10:24 AM
Does anybody have a problem with the latest .04 version locking up the phone ? Ever since I installed it, my Tmobile Dash (HTC S621) will not wake up after I lock the keyboard. I have to take the battery out in order to reboot the phone..04 version works fine on my S620. No need to reboot.

epicurean
8th March 2008, 01:48 PM
.04 also seem to work fine with Kaiser(Dutty's latest 6.1 rom)

JimSmith94
8th March 2008, 03:30 PM
I don't text much and haven't seen this reported, although I might have missed it. I'm running v0.2.0.2 on my MBW-150 with my Sprint Mogul.

I have received a few text messages this morning with time issues. For example, my phone says 8:28 AM, the text message on the phone says 8:28 AM, but the text message in the watch says 2:28 PM.

I am in Texas on CST or GMT -6, so it appears that the time stamp on the watch is GMT instead of local time.

moneytoo
8th March 2008, 03:37 PM
I don't text much and haven't seen this reported, although I might have missed it. I'm running v0.2.0.2 on my MBW-150 with my Sprint Mogul.

I have received a few text messages this morning with time issues. For example, my phone says 8:28 AM, the text message on the phone says 8:28 AM, but the text message in the watch says 2:28 PM.

I am in Texas on CST or GMT -6, so it appears that the time stamp on the watch is GMT instead of local time.

OK, I confirm this little bug. I will fix it in the next release.

JimSmith94
8th March 2008, 03:58 PM
OK, I confirm this little bug. I will fix it in the next release.
Thanks for the quick response! :) Here is another thing I noticed while trying to look at the settings to see if there was an option for the time zone thing.

I have smartWatchM set to hide when connected. It shows in my recent program list, but clicking it there doesn't bring the app back up. The only way I can find to access it is to reboot and look at the settings before I connect the watch.

I think I used to be able to bring it back up this way in previous versions. Am I missing something or is this another bug? I have switched to minimize on connect for now.

bremair
8th March 2008, 04:40 PM
You can bring it back with your watch choose "hide/show sWM window" with the top left button and press the stop button for a few seconds (play). Be sure your PPC display is on.

JimSmith94
8th March 2008, 04:47 PM
You can bring it back with your watch choose "hide/show sWM window" with the top left button and press the stop button for a few seconds (play). Be sure your PPC display is on.
Ah yes, I forgot about that. Thanks! :)

bartito
8th March 2008, 08:57 PM
43,
is possible to include in the next release a update to show the date (in the watch) into the locale format.
by example, at spanish the date format is dd-mm-yyyy (today is 08-03-2008 and not 2008-03-08)
thanks

bremair
8th March 2008, 09:13 PM
Not possible, we had this discussion at earlier posting.

basicmagic
9th March 2008, 03:23 AM
Hi! I wonder if you know if some one is working on an app like this for the iPhone? It would have been greate! Best regards BM

ice_coffee
9th March 2008, 06:34 AM
I have got to had it to you moneytoo the s/ware is excellent, however (as previously stated) it interferes with the SE HBH DS 970) it almost seems that the s/ware is either polling the watch or polling the com ports and interfering with comms to the headset !

If I let you borrow my headset would you have time to look into it ?

bremair
9th March 2008, 10:25 AM
Does the new version not support callerlogos? I don't change anything, just updated to the new version.

*Edit
Sorry don't know why but this time it works.

moneytoo
9th March 2008, 10:44 AM
I have got to had it to you moneytoo the s/ware is excellent, however (as previously stated) it interferes with the SE HBH DS 970) it almost seems that the s/ware is either polling the watch or polling the com ports and interfering with comms to the headset !

If I let you borrow my headset would you have time to look into it ?

Is it interfering with WiFi connection as well?

Open registry and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\RegisteredDevice and delete all BTD_COMx (only BTD_COM0 - BTD_COM9, leave BTD_COM). Restart. Any effect?

ice_coffee
9th March 2008, 11:28 AM
Is it interfering with WiFi connection as well?

Open registry and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\RegisteredDevice and delete all BTD_COMx (only BTD_COM0 - BTD_COM9, leave BTD_COM). Restart. Any effect?

my wifi works fine, I have deleted the com1 key in the registry but it is still the same, I know it is only the sony ericsson headset that has this issue, but I would really appreciate it if you find a fix, as stated I will send it to you to test if necessary

ice_coffee
9th March 2008, 12:57 PM
at first I thought it strange that the only headset that would not work with this SE watch was an SE headset, but now that I have paired both the headset and the watch to my gf's SE w880i I see that the 2 are very closely linked. The screens are a mimic of each other as are the controls, im guessing but I think they might be coming from the same driver, if that is the case then the only way to get them to work together on our phones would be if you incorporated the drivers for the headset into your software. at the moment I am using the jetware drivers for my headset as this was the only way to get caller ID working

Slayer23
9th March 2008, 02:38 PM
I'm gonna buy MBW-150 this week and i'm really closely sticked to my SE DS-220 stereo headset, i was guessing, if those two gadgets would work togother and as i can see, it seems to be a problem, wouldn't be solution to disable the AVRCP for the headset in registry or force just the headsets A2DP?\
Or does this problem apply only to headsets with their own displays? Does any one have exeprience with the watch controlling calls/AVRCP while A2DP/AVRCP capable headset is connected as well?

moneytoo
9th March 2008, 05:23 PM
smartWatchM.cab v0.2.1.0 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm.cab)

0.2.1.0
- more friendly console output

- watch discovery/pairing from inside of sWM
No more pairing using BT manager.

- com port registering from inside of sWM
No more setting ports manually or using sWMconfig utility.

- better initiation connection (restarting BT when needed)
This should resolve bad connection on startup. It should not restart BT any time later.

- fixed sms time
Problem with time zones. @JimSmith94

- mail address in notifications can be disabled
HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm, set mailaddress to 0. @NRGZ28

- option to vibrate on start up
Another fulfilled request.

- automatic bluetooth turning on

- unknown.nol logo for private calls
Not tested.

Paultnl
9th March 2008, 06:02 PM
Excelent upgrade, the new onboard pairing and setup makes this so easy. I chose Com 1 as it is the only one to work for my setup in the past but when I get time I wil try others.

ice_coffee
9th March 2008, 07:55 PM
cool I will check out this new version,

I am having an issue with short battery life 14 hrs or so, im going to pair it to my gf's phone again and see how long it lasts.

@slayer I have heard the nokia hs12 works fine so it seems it's just SE a2dp headsets

arpy
9th March 2008, 08:08 PM
First;Thank You for an absolute KillerApp, i tap your PaypalButton as soon as possible...:rolleyes:
Next some Questions:
1.Is it possible to add an option to disable some Displaying-Infos?I dont use CellBroadcast, and the Stopwatch is a little bit tricky, and its unuseable to tap these small buttons twelve times to reach a special function...
2.Is it possible to add a function like Parameters?It maybe useful to have some own Notifications with MortScript or PhoneAlarm...
3.Is it Possible to Add an Iconbar?Like btWatch...?
4....a very special Question;Can you add a Function to Display NavigatinInfos from TomTom?By "checking" the VoiceFiles?Like if a SoundFile is load into Tomtom( "300 meters"+"turn left" = Vibrate+300m+leftArrow)?Ive heard about a Tomtom-SDK, but dont ask me...:confused: this maybe an absolute KillerFunction for my Watch..hehe...

Anyway, an absolute SuperApp.Thanks:)

JimSmith94
9th March 2008, 09:13 PM
Is it interfering with WiFi connection as well?

Open registry and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\RegisteredDevice and delete all BTD_COMx (only BTD_COM0 - BTD_COM9, leave BTD_COM). Restart. Any effect?
I deleted these keys and installed v0.2.1.0. The time stamp for messages on the watch is fixed, thanks! :)

On previous versions, while on the phone with my Bluetooth headset, the watch would lose its signal every minute or so. On this version, the watch didn't lose its connection, but my headset did! :eek: I've only been on one call so far and will continue to monitor it, but could this be due to something that changed in this version?

victoradjei
9th March 2008, 09:52 PM
4....a very special Question;Can you add a Function to Display NavigatinInfos from TomTom?By "checking" the VoiceFiles?Like if a SoundFile is load into Tomtom( "300 meters"+"turn left" = Vibrate+300m+leftArrow)?Ive heard about a Tomtom-SDK, but dont ask me...:confused: this maybe an absolute KillerFunction for my Watch..hehe...

Anyway, an absolute SuperApp.Thanks:)


This sounds suicidal! Please don't :eek::eek:

Slayer23
10th March 2008, 12:26 AM
Cmon guys, none of you isn't using or never have used the watch paired along with an A2DP headset? need to know, how it behaves - if it works, cuz it's quite important for me to know,before i order the watch

EDIT: I read the thread again and found both pro's and con's :D dunno what to think, i have SE headset and someone wrote, that his headset doesen't work, but that might be cuz his headset has it's own display and he's using jetware or whatever :) so if anyone could send feedback, if it works or doesn't work, i'd be really happy :)

NRGZ28
10th March 2008, 01:27 AM
This sounds suicidal! Please don't :eek::eek:


I second that!!! LOL

PBL1
10th March 2008, 01:50 AM
Slayer23

Cmon guys, none of you isn't using or never have used the watch paired along with an A2DP headset? need to know, how it behaves - if it works, cuz it's quite important for me to know,before i order the watch

EDIT: I read the thread again and found both pro's and con's dunno what to think, i have SE headset and someone wrote, that his headset doesen't work, but that might be cuz his headset has it's own display and he's using jetware or whatever so if anyone could send feedback, if it works or doesn't work, i'd be really happy

I got the Sony Ericsson HBH DS970 when the watch and the headsed are both conected, the music stutters,what ever I use WMP or TCPMP the incoming and outgoing call sound is bad, as soon as the watch is disconected the headset works fine.
How ever
If I have the headset connected to my computer ( with a dongle with widcomm BT stack) the headset will switch to my phone if there is incoming calls no problem and back to the computer when the call is finish, all this with the watch connected.
Said this, the watch works with Jabra BT8010 which have display and vibrate function and if If Iam not mistaken it does works also with the Nokia HS-12W both A2DP headsets
Hope it help you.
By the way if anybody else is using HBH DS970 with this app
I would like to know if are any problems, also is any body using WM6.1? I will test that rom soon and wil be interesting to know if there is any issues just to eliminate posible problems from the list.

Cheers

Slayer23
10th March 2008, 02:16 AM
Thanx for answer, the problem in your case seems to be in the DS970 combined with the watch, i guess those two things are using the exact same technology for the display and that could mess up the things a bit, i just hope it will work for me, since i don't have any display on my headset and so i should use only A2DP profile :) and if not, i hope moneytoo will look into it in time :)

BTW about WM 6.1 - i had Swiftblades roms in my touch for a long time (from 3.0 to 5.0) and now, i have switched to CloudyFa's SHADOW 2.1 (TE) and my biggest problem - my headset was disconnecting after each call and i had to reconnect it manually, completley disappeared (in Swiftblades BLUE Elves 5.0 (his first WM 6.1 release. the headset disconnected only after i pressed the end button myself, if the other person hang up, the headset remained connected), so guess that upgrade to WM 6.1hould be just could make things better

sci05
10th March 2008, 05:28 AM
hello i see that you can send some thing in watch by bluetooth i want to knows if is posible to send hour on a headset hbh 970 by bluetooth ?http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?cc=fr&lc=fr

I second what this guy is saying. I have a HBH-DS970 and would love it if the prog could be incorporated into it!

NRGZ28
10th March 2008, 06:31 AM
The problem with these headsets is that they use the "Handsfree" profile to communicate to the phone. The Sony watch uses the serial port profile. I asked moneytoo earlier if he can change his application to do this also, and he said he would look into it. The way you have to do it is, you put in a DLL in the communication channel between the device and the microsoft bluetooth stack on the phone. Microsoft provides this mechanism and it's built in. This is how the Jetware extension does it.

As far as problems with the headset disconnecting, for the A2DP headset... try increasing the bitpool registry setting to something like 40 or 50 and see if you get a better connection. The sound quality will most definitely be better anyway.

ice_coffee
10th March 2008, 08:20 AM
The problem with these headsets is that they use the "Handsfree" profile to communicate to the phone. The Sony watch uses the serial port profile. I asked moneytoo earlier if he can change his application to do this also, and he said he would look into it. The way you have to do it is, you put in a DLL in the communication channel between the device and the microsoft bluetooth stack on the phone. Microsoft provides this mechanism and it's built in. This is how the Jetware extension does it.

As far as problems with the headset disconnecting, for the A2DP headset... try increasing the bitpool registry setting to something like 40 or 50 and see if you get a better connection. The sound quality will most definitely be better anyway.


where in the registry is the bitpool ?

NRGZ28
10th March 2008, 08:22 AM
Just search for it in the registry... you'll find it.

beginner
10th March 2008, 11:06 AM
How should I control the headset? The only idea I got is to simulate a call. :)


THAT SHOULD BE GREAT, A SIMULATE CALL AND MAYBE A DISPLAY MESSAGE AS 'MAL'. IF YOU ACHIEVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE TONS OF ATHENA/JABRA USERS LOVING YOU.

.......................

ice_coffee
10th March 2008, 04:42 PM
does anybody else have an issue with their watch only lasting about 14 hrs from a full charge

bremair
10th March 2008, 04:48 PM
You could train the akku and find also postings about it. My watch is at 66% after one week of use (10h/day).

NRGZ28
10th March 2008, 05:24 PM
Have not charged mine for 6 days now and it's still at 3/4 battery. All day use, with lots of email notifications also!

bremair
10th March 2008, 08:15 PM
With the new version I got an error when it should starts of its own after a softreset.
Isn't it possible that the watch/app do am autoconnect after a softreset? So that it runs as well as before the softreset.

NRGZ28
10th March 2008, 08:22 PM
Well the thing is.. the app WAITS for the watch to initiate the connection. That's why it tells you to push a button on the watch. So.. it would be technically impossible. I'm sure moneytoo would have automated this if it was possible.:rolleyes:

bremair
10th March 2008, 08:44 PM
For me my PPC did a backup every day at 18:00. But now I have to start sWM manually, it would be nice when it start itself and I only have to push a button on the watch. But the autostart option didn't run very well.
One time the app start with an error and closed, other time I have to click "Start" or start the app completely by myself.

You could do me a favor and perform a softreset and try to pair the watch with only the request button to press.

ice_coffee
10th March 2008, 11:20 PM
could you guys do me a favour and check what firmware your watch is, you can do this by going into pairing mode on the watch (when the watch is vibrating with the pairing arrows chasing each other) and the press bottom right 5 times !

mine is 1201- 3478:01

McDoPDA
10th March 2008, 11:55 PM
could you guys do me a favour and check what firmware your watch is, you can do this by going into pairing mode on the watch (when the watch is vibrating with the pairing arrows chasing each other) and the press bottom right 5 times !

mine is 1201- 3478:01Mine is the same.

ice_coffee
11th March 2008, 12:23 AM
and your watch lasts more than 14 hours ?

wgary
11th March 2008, 01:21 AM
does anybody else have an issue with their watch only lasting about 14 hrs from a full charge
Less than a day here.

moneytoo
11th March 2008, 01:22 AM
If you have problems with cotinuous reconnections, headset/watch disconnection and reconnection, please try this test version: smartwatchm.zip (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm.zip) (just replace this exe file, start sWM and register your COM port one more time).

Paultnl
11th March 2008, 02:18 AM
could you guys do me a favour and check what firmware your watch is, you can do this by going into pairing mode on the watch (when the watch is vibrating with the pairing arrows chasing each other) and the press bottom right 5 times !

mine is 1201- 3478:01

mine is the same, I can get about 14.5 hours if I am lucky. How do we upgrade the watch firmware?

Skiddy
11th March 2008, 04:11 AM
could you guys do me a favour and check what firmware your watch is, you can do this by going into pairing mode on the watch (when the watch is vibrating with the pairing arrows chasing each other) and the press bottom right 5 times !

mine is 1201- 3478:01

Mine is the same and I get about a week or so:D. I have not really had the watch long enough to find a pattern but one of the SWM software versions the watch seemed to be going empty very quickly (I did play around with RSS at that time too). Since I received the watch about 2 weeks ago, I have charged it three times and the last charge is still showing full. Charging was done within a little less than 2 hours and the watch showed full every time before disconnecting it from the charger. One thing I noticed is that the battery indicator shows full and 2/3 for a long time but once past that it seems to go down in a hurry:(.

victoradjei
11th March 2008, 07:02 AM
If you have problems with cotinuous reconnections, headset/watch disconnection and reconnection, please try this test version: smartwatchm.zip (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/temp/smartwatchm.zip) (just replace this exe file, start sWM and register your COM port one more time).

I did have some issues with notifications from the watch, and when I activate the "sounds" there was a constant symphony from the connect-disconnect cycle, especially when connected to pc by activesync. I tested this and after 2 or 3 cycles without activesync it stopped. I am now connected via activesync and there is no such sound notifications. :cool: Will keep it on to the office and report later in the day.

Update: I still have disconnection notification on the watch although the phone remains silent :(

ice_coffee
11th March 2008, 08:30 AM
Mine is the same and I get about a week or so:D. I have not really had the watch long enough to find a pattern but one of the SWM software versions the watch seemed to be going empty very quickly (I did play around with RSS at that time too). Since I received the watch about 2 weeks ago, I have charged it three times and the last charge is still showing full. Charging was done within a little less than 2 hours and the watch showed full every time before disconnecting it from the charger. One thing I noticed is that the battery indicator shows full and 2/3 for a long time but once past that it seems to go down in a hurry:(.

what version of s/ware are you using, I have now paired it to my GF's w880i so I can see how long it lasts with that ! at least then I can work out if it is just a s/ware issue or a watch issue, I bought mine new from an ebay seller, but you never know it might be a refurb and hence the battery might be in poor condition, if it was not changed.

Skiddy
11th March 2008, 08:39 AM
what version of s/ware are you using, I have now paired it to my GF's w880i so I can see how long it lasts with that ! at least then I can work out if it is just a s/ware issue or a watch issue, I bought mine new from an ebay seller, but you never know it might be a refurb and hence the battery might be in poor condition, if it was not changed.

Currently I am using SVM 0.2.1.0, which has a few nice enhancements:D. I bought the watch from a retailer, all looked brand new.

bremair
11th March 2008, 10:17 AM
could you guys do me a favour and check what firmware your watch is, you can do this by going into pairing mode on the watch (when the watch is vibrating with the pairing arrows chasing each other) and the press bottom right 5 times !

mine is 1201- 3478:01
also the same.
I bought my from amazon. I got it last tuesday and didn't have to charge it again, its still about 66%.
I'm using the new 0.2.1.0 version of sWM.

GuardianZX9
11th March 2008, 02:23 PM
I am also using the latest version with a MBW-100 and after 8 hours or so my watch shuts off due to depleted battery, I used to have a SE Z710i that I used with the same watch and I would get a week out of the watch without charging.

My watch reports CAH1090866.R1C

G

McDoPDA
11th March 2008, 03:05 PM
and your watch lasts more than 14 hours ?I tested the battery permanently connected to my PDA in bluetooth and it lasts 6 full days (24/24).

ice_coffee
11th March 2008, 05:02 PM
ok what phones are you guys using, im using an ameo with the jetware plugin, I think the plugin might be interfering with the watch, but im not sure.

bremair
11th March 2008, 05:25 PM
MDA Vario 3

ice_coffee
11th March 2008, 07:41 PM
@ Moneytoo, which modes of the watch do you think require the most power, for example I would imagine RSS being the worst as there is a continuous data stream , and also continual use of the display, but which others have a continuous stream of data and which only send data when necessary ?
at the moment I have been linked to an SE phone for 14 hours and im still on full power, but this is because the SE phone does nothing, it only seems to poll the watch when there is a state change, otherwise the watch is sat idle, I much prefer having the additional info your s/ware provides and I dont mind the regular charging but I need to know if my watch is defective or not so I can send it back within the time frame.

moneytoo
11th March 2008, 08:18 PM
the SE phone does nothing, it only seems to poll the watch when there is a state change, otherwise the watch is sat idle

The behaviour of sWM is exactly the same. The battery draining issue must be caused by other software (Jetware definitely could cause this) or by WM itself. Just try it yourself - shut down sWM and the battery life should be the same. Additionaly you can delete even the com port and leave the watch connected.

delboydell
11th March 2008, 08:56 PM
Im using an ameo with the original rom, and have the jetware extention installed and have just had to charge the mbw150 for the 2nd time after leaving it on 24/7 for the past 5 days, I also have paired a lg hbm700 and have no problems at all, just unsure of all the functions as I am unable to find any instructions on the thread, I think i have sussed everything bar controlling WMP.
What rrs feed program do you all use also hows the weather side of things work too?

McDoPDA
11th March 2008, 10:29 PM
ok what phones are you guys using, im using an ameo with the jetware plugin, I think the plugin might be interfering with the watch, but im not sure.HTC S620 and Tréo 750

PBL1
11th March 2008, 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by ice_coffee
ok what phones are you guys using, im using an ameo with the jetware plugin, I think the plugin might be interfering with the watch, but im not sure.

Less than a day if continuous use, will see with the new app version

Same firmware version than you, Athena, not Jetware

GuardianZX9
11th March 2008, 11:32 PM
I am using 2 different MBW-100's, the metal band and the Black Plastic band, same formware on both.

Both are completely drained after 5-8 hours of being connected to my HTC X7500(Athena)

I do not have Jetware or any other BT software loaded.

I do have a Jabra BT8010 paired and connected in parallel
with the MBW-100.

I can test anything you need me to test, I am also going to try pairing one of the 100's with my Tytn II to see if I get the same results.

G

wgary
12th March 2008, 01:39 AM
I am using HTC Advantage with PK3 ROM and Jabra BT8010. Experiencing fairly rapid battery drain, although it has leveled off somewhat.

Also note that I am having some issues with reconnection, if I get too far away for too long. Only solution I have found is to reboot. Restarting the program won't help. Any suggestions?

Skiddy
12th March 2008, 04:16 AM
ok what phones are you guys using, im using an ameo with the jetware plugin, I think the plugin might be interfering with the watch, but im not sure.

I am using a HTC Touch Dual with MBW-150 Executive. The Bluetooth connection between the devices is on 24/7. The phone radio is off during the night, i.e. no emails and such.

Skiddy
12th March 2008, 04:19 AM
Im using an ameo with the original rom, and have the jetware extention installed and have just had to charge the mbw150 for the 2nd time after leaving it on 24/7 for the past 5 days, I also have paired a lg hbm700 and have no problems at all, just unsure of all the functions as I am unable to find any instructions on the thread, I think i have sussed everything bar controlling WMP.
What rrs feed program do you all use also hows the weather side of things work too?

The weather information is taken from the HTC Home plugin and the RSS feed either from HTC Hub or Newsbreak (basically the same program).

You can either wade through this thread or search it for more info;)

punkokseng
12th March 2008, 06:14 AM
after removing the CE-Star, sWM works perfectly.
I've upgraded the sWM to 0.2.1.0. tried testing sWM without/with/without (in that sequence) CE-Star and the result is the same.


If you uninstall CE-Star does it make sWM work ok again?[/QUOTE]

moneytoo
12th March 2008, 07:35 AM
If you have less than day battery life - Have you tried btWatch? Any difference?

Does anyone have battery draining problems on WM Standard / Smartphone?

bremair
12th March 2008, 09:16 AM
Would it be possible to use the weather data of Spb Weather (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/weather/?en)?
I don't use the HTC weather plugin.

NRGZ28
12th March 2008, 10:12 AM
I was wondering... when the watch receives a new email/SMS notification, it displays the envelope icon for a couple of seconds, then it displays the actual message. I was wondering, is it possible to shorten the time period the envelope is displayed or take it out alltoghether ? Or does the watch control that ?

bartito
12th March 2008, 01:24 PM
hi,
i have some problems with the newly version.
* in ocasions the communication with the watch is lossed, and no autoreconnect
* in other ocasions the smartwathm loss the connection with the watch and the click on a watch button don't restablishes...
regards

GuardianZX9
12th March 2008, 02:11 PM
Ok,

So I tested with my Tytn II last night till this morning for about 11 hours and the MBW-100 still shows full battery strength.

Its looking like something specific to the Athena X7500.

Any ideas?

G

bartito
12th March 2008, 02:25 PM
Ok,

So I tested with my Tytn II last night till this morning for about 11 hours and the MBW-100 still shows full battery strength.

Its looking like something specific to the Athena X7500.

Any ideas?

G

i don't have any issue with my athena and the mbw150 battery duration

GuardianZX9
12th March 2008, 04:07 PM
Bartito:

What Athen a ROM are you running?

Any 3rd party apps?

G

bartito
12th March 2008, 04:23 PM
Bartito:

What Athen a ROM are you running?

Any 3rd party apps?

G

hi,
SO: 5.1.465 (15673.3.3.1 compilation)
ROM: 1.25.412.2
Radio: 1.38.0.0

applications:

smartw
spb weather
vodafone realmail
sprite backup
wm5newmenu 2
phonealarm
wktask

regards

GuardianZX9
12th March 2008, 05:29 PM
I am running AP Touch 3.0 with Radio 1.50, wondering if its something specific to the AP ROM.

Any other AP Touch 3 ROM users having the battery drain issue?

G

ice_coffee
12th March 2008, 05:52 PM
PK rom here (ap dual I beleive) also using radio 1.50, im waiting for AP 4.0 to upgrade to the latest radio, and I wont be installing Jetware this time !

ice_coffee
12th March 2008, 06:11 PM
@ moneytoo, I upgraded to the latest version of your s/ware, I deleted my old pairing and incoming com port, and set up from fresh with 0.2.1.0, after pairing and verifying comms I exited your s/ware ! can you confirm that my watch is still bluetooth connected to my phone ?

at the moment if I press top right twice for the time, it shows the correct time, (possibly using internal chronometer) but he bluetooth symbol on the clock screen does not have the <> connection symbol next to it ! also if I press a media button I just get the bluetooth search <<<<B>>>>, However when I did exit your s/ware I did not get an out of range notification on the watch.

moneytoo
12th March 2008, 06:22 PM
I was wondering... when the watch receives a new email/SMS notification, it displays the envelope icon for a couple of seconds, then it displays the actual message. I was wondering, is it possible to shorten the time period the envelope is displayed or take it out alltoghether ? Or does the watch control that ?

Disable the envelope on the watch. ;)

bartito
12th March 2008, 06:45 PM
hi,
with the newly version, in some ocasions the vibration and animation for the OnWatchConnectionLossed event is not executed.
in this case, the autoreconnect function dont works properly.
regards

bremair
12th March 2008, 07:12 PM
I did an autostart entry for sWM but when it should started automatic it got the following error:
Fehler
smartWatchM.exe
Win32Exception
Error getting BluetoothRadio mode

bei
InTheHand.Net.Bluetooth.BluetoothRadio.get_Mode()
at b..ctor()
at c.a()

Then I have to shut down the app.

Isn't it possible that the app start of its own and wait for me still I press a button at the watch?

axle7517
12th March 2008, 10:25 PM
smartWatchM.cab v0.2.1.0 (http://www.smartmadsoft.com/smartwatchm/smartwatchm.cab)

0.2.1.0
- more friendly console output

- watch discovery/pairing from inside of sWM
No more pairing using BT manager.

- com port registering from inside of sWM
No more setting ports manually or using sWMconfig utility.

- better initiation connection (restarting BT when needed)
This should resolve bad connection on startup. It should not restart BT any time later.

- fixed sms time
Problem with time zones. @JimSmith94

- mail address in notifications can be disabled
HKLM\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm, set mailaddress to 0. @NRGZ28

- option to vibrate on start up
Another fulfilled request.

- automatic bluetooth turning on

- unknown.nol logo for private calls
Not tested.

Hello Moneytoo

for the moment nothing important to report, works good apprently
the only things are:

unknow.nol logo for private call don't work
voicemail notification still don' t work

about auto bt on , can you auto mute phone ring at same time ? (or make this possible by select it in the setting for the one who don't want this)

appointmentement: reminded or not dont work
i just noticed that apointement (reminded or not) are notified in the watch each time that i am on call with some one and a few minutes after hang up call, it notifies my appointment at time (for exemple appointment at 14h >> watch notifie my at 14h)

and what about all this little things :




FIXES

> fIx appointment notification probleme for all devices
(for me still the same: notifaction of appointment with reminder do not work any way
the watch vibrate for any appointment , at the exacte time and not all appointment are notified)

> fix the voice mail notification

> fix this probleme (still hapens sometime for me)
in a icomming call , after accept the call the was continue vibrate 3 times

>>>> change the button to check mails ( when 0 volume fonction long press top left button for exemple)

> improve stable connexion when using with any carkit or headset

> switch display in volume 5 from "profile, operator - battery, signal" to "battery, signal - profile, operator" because signal and baterrie is more important OR put them together

> improve rss fonction : add possibility to select the feed or / and to read only new headlines + start refresh by pressing a button on watch


NEW features

> add GPS position and speed

>>> add multilanguage

>>> add world clock or another city time (for travellers)

>>> add weather forcast with spb wethear or else

> add auto profil : when the watch is connected , switch of phone ringer

> add the possibility in volume 1 /appointments to scroll the appointements of the day (by pressing FF/RW)

>>> add window alarme notification : to morning wake up !

> add the posibility to start calling a previously selected number (a number that we call more that 5 times a day) for the ones who use headset

> add the possibility to recall the last incoming call number (for head set mode)




but the great improvment would be to fix appointment notification

Thnks a lote Moneytoo
Great job
regard

Paultnl
12th March 2008, 10:33 PM
Having suffered from the short battery syndrome (around 14 hours) I am now about to try my 3rd MBW-150 Executive. One thing I did notice about the new one was that this one arrived with the battery totaly empty the other two arrived with a partial charge. I am now following the initial charging instructions to the letter and will report back how I get on.

Can anyone remember what condition the battery was in when they first got thier watch?

axle7517
12th March 2008, 10:37 PM
Having suffered from the short battery syndrome (around 14 hours) I am now about to try my 3rd MBW-150 Executive. One thing I did notice about the new one was that this one arrived with the battery totaly empty the other two arrived with a partial charge. I am now following the initial charging instructions to the letter and will report back how I get on.

Can anyone remember what condition the battery was in when they first got thier watch?

for me it was cmpletly empty
my mbw - 150 battery time is something like 3 o 4 weeks, having bt of on watch each night and quite all day in sunday
i just isntal the las version of smartwatch, i will report tomorow if i have the same probleme

Pernod99
12th March 2008, 10:50 PM
but the great improvment would be to fix appointment notification



Yes it do not work very well :(

ice_coffee
13th March 2008, 01:44 AM
my battery was half charged when I received it !

So far I have had it on an SE phone for 26 Hrs continuous and it is still showing 100% then WITHOUT recharging I have connected it to my phone, but not connected my headset (so not using jetware) and also exiting smartwatch, it is definitely connected, because if I turn my phone off I get the lost connection indicator on the watch.
So far it has been 16 Hrs and still showing 100% total runtime so far 42 Hrs, I must admit I have also switched over to the new version of smartwatch, and I completly cleared out the old install including the paring to the watch so this is using new settings in my registry, I dont know if any of those settings could affect power though, like broadcast strength or something so next to try will be turning on smartwatch without my headset to see if it still lasts !

PS my old registry setting were created using the .reg files

NRGZ28
13th March 2008, 03:55 AM
Disable the envelope on the watch. ;)

Aha! :) I was under the impression that if I did that, it will stop receiving notifications! LOL Thanks! :D

alfredtv
13th March 2008, 05:00 AM
MoneyToo check out this link on accessories for the SE XPERIA X1:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/compatibleaccessories/x1

Shows the MBW-150 you may want to make sure they don't use your findings and something that relates to this extrodinary program as you may be looking at getting a big check for your work.
Thanks

JimSmith94
13th March 2008, 05:26 AM
I have previously reported issues where my MBW-150 would lose its connection every minute or so while I was on a call with my Bluetooth headset. Last night I upgraded my Sprint Mogul to the new DCD WM6.1 GPS ROM. The watch didn't lose its connection, but my headset beeped and lost its connection about a minute or two into the conversation on a couple different calls.

Previously I always followed the directions to pair the watch first, then the headset. Do you think it would help if I paired the headset first? Naturally, I need the headset to work consistently, and can live with occasional disconnections of the watch.

Any other ideas of what to try to get these two devices to coexist with each other?

ice_coffee
13th March 2008, 11:37 AM
Ok im still testing but I think I have narrowed down the battery issue to an incompatibility wth my headset !
I managed 26 hrs on an se phone, 22 hours on my athena connected to bluetooth but without smart watch running, and 3.5 hours ago I enabled smartwatch.
All in all my swatch has been running for 51.5 hours continuously and is still showing 100% battery I will keep an eye on the battery with smartwatch but I think it is my headset causing problems!

bartito
13th March 2008, 01:28 PM
hi,
smartwatchm 0.2.1.0 don't work fine for me!!!
please, i need the 0.2.0.4 version (that's work fine). post or tell me the location to download

[ at inet, i have located the 0.2.0.2, but not the 0.2.0.4 ]

regards

GuardianZX9
13th March 2008, 02:15 PM
I tested last night with BTwatch and the battery drain isnt nearly as bad, i went for 5+ hours with no noticable drain, then i connected a headset as well and the overnight drain with both connected is about 20% gone on the watch, with SmartWatch it was 100% drain.

G

GuardianZX9
13th March 2008, 02:19 PM
I tested last night with BTwatch and the battery drain isnt nearly as bad, i went for 5+ hours with no noticable drain, then i connected a headset as well and the overnight drain with both connected is about 20% gone on the watch, with SmartWatch it was 100% drain.

G

Strike that last comment, when I woke up I pressed the top button to see the battery status and it was 80% but 3 min later the watch vibrated and wen to sleep due to a dead battery.

It is looking like something going on with having a headset paired and connected at the same time.

more testing today.

G