smartWatchM v1.2.5.1 (2009-12-13) SE BT Watch MBW-100/150/200, Prada, Citizen, LM95x

[moneytoo]

Hi Moneytoo,

can you make it possible, when a new message arrived to be marked as read with a keypress?
So that the repetition of this message is off.

Greeting
Slide

I needed this as well. (So it's now in v0.2.2.3)
Entering email details menu (E-mail address/Subject (or SMS if there is any unread), position number 2 by default) on watch will disable all repetitions but the message will still stay marked as unread.

[Slide]

I needed this as well. (So it's now in v0.2.2.3)
Entering email details menu (E-mail address/Subject (or SMS if there is any unread), possition number 2 by default) on watch will disable all repetitions but the message will still stay marked as unread.

Wow! What a quick new Version!

Thanks you Moneytoo.

[wenchengrong]

大狭能否搞个支持中文的.我的手表里显示的是"???",中文不能显示.

[aswaddington]

Hi Moneytoo,

First let me say "Thank You" for your fantastic software and all efforts to date. This has made the difference between basic features on a mediocre line of SE phones to advanced capability on almost any current WM device. I have just made a donation (cpappas) to help with future versions and hope you will consider the following questions and enhancements. Some of these have already been requested.

1. Like others, I find that appt. notifications are not consistant. I thought it was related to time zone or what appointments were currently displayed on Today screen, but this does not seem to be the case. How do you decide which and when appts are displayed on the watch ?

2. The menu editing capability and changing of positions is great. However, if we could customize the "stop" vs "play" functionality individualy for a particular menu item that would be fantastic. Example, menu 0, stop=messaging info, play=next appointment etc.

3. Add UsefilenameCaption like capability for all menu items. Example, as we push the volume button up or down to change menu, right after the volume indicator disapears, flash the caption (user editable) for that particular item before going blank. This would alow us to verify what item we have selected, before executing the stop or play function for that item.

4. Play function 0 (email sync) will only work once for me. If I try a second time (before stop/start of smartwatch) I receive error in log "cannot synchronize mail". I have 3 imap email accounts and cannot figure this out. Is this supposed to sync all email accounts ?
Also, what is the purpose and usage of the value "mail address" in the registry. Any ideas ?

5. It would be wonderful if the appointment function included an option to scroll through all of the appointments for the day, instead of just the "next appt", or "all day" appts.

6. REW for WMP like other users are looking for.

Best Regards,

CP

[ful babu]

hi moneytoo,

is it possible to make a Eternal SMS alert like the option u have in test "eternal time" ? ,i hav noticed tat u hav used incoming call feature for tat, so by pressing upper right butt twice this sms alert will go away , :cool:

still looking for the WMP RW butt to work :rolleyes:

[moneytoo]

ful babu:
Maybe I could add some options for this. Have you checked how's the battery life with watch display permanently on?

aswaddington:
Thanks for your generous donation.

1. It should work but apperently it doesn't work 100% for evereone. I have no idea. I guess something rotten's in there.

2. I dont know. Most of the features are connected in pairs where play button usually means some action or launching something...

3. I have tried that earlier but this just doesn't work right. It makes the menu almost impossible to control.
I guess it could be probably done some other way but not that easy (so it doesnt have much priority right now).

4. It should switch all the accounts. It works both with one and two accounts (but should with three as well). I will test it (or send you some test version if I found anything). Anyone else having problems with it?

5. I thought I implement the REW button easily but It wasnt like that. Maybe I'm forgetting something... I will try it again some time soon...
Anyway, I think I could add some one way appointment browsing (now -> future, the possition could be reseted when other menu item is selected).

6. Same as point 5.

[ful babu]

ful babu:
Maybe I could add some options for this. Have you checked how's the battery life with watch display permanently on?
...

5. I thought I implement the REW button easily but It wasnt like that. Maybe I'm forgetting something...

yup i thought about that, but ane way we're going to turn it off after few sec arent we ? ne way it was just a random idea ..

about RW butt, is it really strange or i m missing somthing .. caz both FW and RW has same AT ( AT*SEMP=5 ) !!! :eek:

[dbrotzen]

So... the UserFiles seemed like a really great idea! Except I couldn't actually figure out what they are good for that wouldn't be just as easy (or easier) to do on the phone.

Then the inspiration hit:
Vijay555 (a genius; see http://Vijay555.com) has a number of little utilities that do things like: dial your phone, send an e-mail or text, reset or lock or dim or unlock, etc., etc.

So I downloaded VJPhoneTools and set up a shortcut to VJDial.exe with my voicemail number as the argument, moved it to the SWM folder, and renamed it UserFile1 -- now I can dial Voicemail without touching my phone or using voice dial on my headset. Cool huh?

So now I'm thinking what to do with UserFile 2: Call home? Send a "Running late" text message to the office? Lock the phone? So many choices -- check out Vijay555.com. VJDialer has the phone and messaging apps; VJEscaton has reset options; VJDeviceLock has lock, screen on/off, etc.; and, in fact, VJKeyPress can emulate any keypress on the phone!

Not bad, huh? Now my only question is, Can we have more UserFile slots? We could then swap these in for functions we don't use (e.g., WMP in my case). Just a thought...

One other request: Would it be hard for SWM to read the current time (including time zone shift)? I travel across time zones, and this would be a handy feature. :) Otherwise, I can just shut it down and restart and all is fine.

And in conclusion: SWM is very nicely done! Thanks for all your hard work and attentiveness to user needs.

Way cool! Thanks for this tip WGary!

[shaileshashar]

hi moneytoo,
pls allow menu rotation ie when we are on last item and press fwd button it should take us to first item. SImilarly for the first item as well.

[beginner]

hi moneytoo
I have installed 0,2,2,3 paired the watch selecting a port. But it doesn't work. Port is com2. the problem I have is I cannot delete the port from bluetooth manager.

I have tried to uninstall and install again the software, but no way.

Do you know how I could delete the port without a hard reset?

note: smartwatch thinks the watch is paired and hasn't the option to delete the port and start again.

thanks.

[Slide]

Hi Moneytoo,

it is possible to make a double press on Play/Stopp button?
For example:
My favorite menu is email/sms. When I press the play button i always see the last email/sms. When it was possible to make a double press to set the last email/sms to "no new message" I often check this menu.

Greeting
Slide

[wgary]

hi moneytoo
I have installed 0,2,2,3 paired the watch selecting a port. But it doesn't work. Port is com2. the problem I have is I cannot delete the port from bluetooth manager.

I have tried to uninstall and install again the software, but no way.

Do you know how I could delete the port without a hard reset?

note: smartwatch thinks the watch is paired and hasn't the option to delete the port and start again.

thanks.
Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > COM Ports > Press and hold on Incoming Port (COM2) > Delete

[beginner]

Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > COM Ports > Press and hold on Incoming Port (COM2) > Delete

Thanks Wgary but it doesn't work.
Finally i found in reg the line where smartwachm has the com and deleted. After reinstalled looks working fine.

[aswaddington]

ful babu:
Maybe I could add some options for this. Have you checked how's the battery life with watch display permanently on?

aswaddington:
Thanks for your generous donation.

1. It should work but apperently it doesn't work 100% for evereone. I have no idea. I guess something rotten's in there.

2. I dont know. Most of the features are connected in pairs where play button usually means some action or launching something...

3. I have tried that earlier but this just doesn't work right. It makes the menu almost impossible to control.
I guess it could be probably done some other way but not that easy (so it doesnt have much priority right now).

4. It should switch all the accounts. It works both with one and two accounts (but should with three as well). I will test it (or send you some test version if I found anything). Anyone else having problems with it?

5. I thought I implement the REW button easily but It wasnt like that. Maybe I'm forgetting something... I will try it again some time soon...
Anyway, I think I could add some one way appointment browsing (now -> future, the possition could be reseted when other menu item is selected).

6. Same as point 5.

Thanks,

Can you tell me what the "mail address" entry in the registry is for ?

Also, with MBW-100, each successive press of the crown toggles between the "play" function and the "stop" function (unlike the MBW-150), and pressing and holding the crown is "FF" which is equivalent to "volume up" finction on MBW-150. I understand that this is a result of the commands sent by the watch and not your program, however, is there any way to change the mapping in your program so that "FF" sent, maps to "play" function and either "stop" or "play" map to "stop" function as compaired to MBW-150 ? I would not mind if I had to select which watch to use in the setup menu of SmartwatchM and/or restarting the program to change watches.

Thanks,

CP

[dj_gabzz]

Thanks,

Can you tell me what the "mail address" entry in the registry is for ?

Also, with MBW-100, each successive press of the crown toggles between the "play" function and the "stop" function (unlike the MBW-150), and pressing and holding the crown is "FF" which is equivalent to "volume up" finction on MBW-150. I understand that this is a result of the commands sent by the watch and not your program, however, is there any way to change the mapping in your program so that "FF" sent, maps to "play" function and either "stop" or "play" map to "stop" function as compaired to MBW-150 ? I would not mind if I had to select which watch to use in the setup menu of SmartwatchM and/or restarting the program to change watches.

Thanks,

CP

same here.. it seems like i cant change anything in the menu of mbw100.. would you please let us get more functionality as far as button mapping goes.. thank you ..

[NRGZ28]

Thanks,

Can you tell me what the "mail address" entry in the registry is for ?



Set it to 1 to show the email address of the person you're receiving an email from, set it to 0 to hide it.

[Karmarock]

I upgraded radio to 1.57 but still no joy (see signature).
It leads me to think that the problem should be with some combination of rom + radio.
I'm evaluating to upgrade to the AP4.
As for now this is a one way process (no going back to standard HTC rom is yet possible, apart downgrading to a special AP3) do anyone has experinces with AP4 about battery duration of the MBW150?

Does it solve the problem?

I've read on the AP4 thread that someone have problem with ad2p and also with 2 devices connected (as soon as one communicate the other disconnects:eek:) is it a common problem with AP4?

[beginner]

I upgraded radio to 1.57 but still no joy (see signature).
It leads me to think that the problem should be with some combination of rom + radio.
I'm evaluating to upgrade to the AP4.
As for now this is a one way process (no going back to standard HTC rom is yet possible, apart downgrading to a special AP3) do anyone has experinces with AP4 about battery duration of the MBW150?

Does it solve the problem?

I've read on the AP4 thread that someone have problem with ad2p and also with 2 devices connected (as soon as one communicate the other disconnects:eek:) is it a common problem with AP4?

based on my personal experience I can confirm you that the battery life only depend on the radio version. With ap3 or ap4 it is the same (minimum 2 days, but I cannot say the max because each 2 days I am charging. Now I cannot life without the watch and moneytoo program...)

[Karmarock]

based on my personal experience I can confirm you that the battery life only depend on the radio version. With ap3 or ap4 it is the same (minimum 2 days, but I cannot say the max because each 2 days I am charging. Now I cannot life without the watch and moneytoo program...)

That is what I'm expecting too, but my experience is that upgrading rom didn't improve the battery drain while from previous posts I can see that it improved for other guys with different rom than mine (especially AP3).
This lead me to think there are two options:
- Problem has relations also to my actual ROM
- My watch is defective (which would be the most obvious option, but as other users who had the same troubles I have, succeeded, I'll keep the option of servicing it the last one!)

I'm deeply convinced that moneytoo prog+ MBW150 is fantastic, but up to now as I cannot obtain at least a complete workday of autonomy for me is no use :(

[beginner]

That is what I'm expecting too, but my experience is that upgrading rom didn't improve the battery drain while from previous posts I can see that it improved for other guys with different rom than mine (especially AP3).
This lead me to think there are two options:
- Problem has relations also to my actual ROM
- My watch is defective (which would be the most obvious option, but as other users who had the same troubles I have, succeeded, I'll keep the option of servicing it the last one!)

I'm deeply convinced that moneytoo prog+ MBW150 is fantastic, but up to now as I cannot obtain at least a complete workday of autonomy for me is no use :(

I cannot help you, sorry. Try to reflash again radio and rom. Or maybe you use other program impacting on battery drain.

[GuardianZX9]

Guys here my observations with AP4 platinum and the MBW-100.

Upgraded Radio to 1.57 and AP4.
Loaded SW 0.2.2.2
Watch lasted 4 days and I still showed half on the watch battery meter.
SW 0.2.2.2 crashed all the time, strange very long messages that I had never seen before, someting about a cab related to dot net I think, I will reload AP4 and save it.

Reverted back to the modified AP3.
Left radio at 1.57
Loaded SW 0.2.2.2
Watch lasts 3 hours and is dead

So from my testing it is something specific with the ROM
and not just the radio.

Curious about any more specifics with guys on AP3 and Radio 1.57 that are getting multiple days, is a post AP4 version of AP3 dual?

What software do you have loaded besides SW?

G

[PBL1]

GuardianZX9
Guys here my observations with AP4 platinum and the MBW-100.

My MBW-150 works fantastic with AP4 so far, I found the rom excelent, wach battery has ben on three and a half days and show full:) previously it lasted less than 14hours , weather work out of the box both in the rom and in watch, so far no lost connections.
Even beter my HBS970 headset only stuters when query the watch for a few seconds, previously with AP2 it was unusable.
still playing with the new options from smartwatch but so far so good

so thanks to Moneytoo and AP4 team Iam much happier now with my toys

Regards

[dj_gabzz]

Guys here my observations with AP4 platinum and the MBW-100.

Upgraded Radio to 1.57 and AP4.
Loaded SW 0.2.2.2
Watch lasted 4 days and I still showed half on the watch battery meter.
SW 0.2.2.2 crashed all the time, strange very long messages that I had never seen before, someting about a cab related to dot net I think, I will reload AP4 and save it.

Reverted back to the modified AP3.
Left radio at 1.57
Loaded SW 0.2.2.2
Watch lasts 3 hours and is dead

So from my testing it is something specific with the ROM
and not just the radio.

Curious about any more specifics with guys on AP3 and Radio 1.57 that are getting multiple days, is a post AP4 version of AP3 dual?

What software do you have loaded besides SW?

G

i have the mbw100 and the special ap3 rom with the new spl 3.5 my watch lasts 6 hours tops!.. crazy, do you think i shouyld go back to ap4? , i didnt like it much though it seemed to hang and lag a lot. at leats on my device. plus compatibility issues with igo is such a turnoff for me, i use gps the entire time
any feedback :) is my watch defective or should i change the rom?

[ice_coffee]

i have the mbw100 and the special ap3 rom with the new spl 3.5 my watch lasts 6 hours tops!.. crazy, do you think i shouyld go back to ap4? , i didnt like it much though it seemed to hang and lag a lot. at leats on my device. plus compatibility issues with igo is such a turnoff for me, i use gps the entire time
any feedback :) is my watch defective or should i change the rom?

your watch aint decftive, a change of rom would prove that !

[GuardianZX9]

its definately the rom, my MBW-100 works great on my TytnII with WM6.1 based roms.

If you can handle the issues with AP4 it seems to be the only way to have a working watch.

G

[dj_gabzz]

Thank you for the feedback, i will try to change roms again soon
:)



its definately the rom, my MBW-100 works great on my TytnII with WM6.1 based roms.

If you can handle the issues with AP4 it seems to be the only way to have a working watch.

G

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i have the mbw100 and the special ap3 rom with the new spl 3.5 my watch lasts 6 hours tops!.. crazy, do you think i shouyld go back to ap4? , i didnt like it much though it seemed to hang and lag a lot. at leats on my device. plus compatibility issues with igo is such a turnoff for me, i use gps the entire time
any feedback is my watch defective or should i change the rom?
your watch aint decftive, a change of rom would prove that !
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[wgary]

Hi MoneyToo,

Thank you for opening up the possibilities with the MBW-150!

I've got the watch and tried it out with my wife's Startrek. Most functions worked. ...I'm trying to get this work with a Startrek (Cingular 3125) while my Advantage goes to the shop. Which COM port? Other advice? I'm endlessly trying things but no success...

[moneytoo]

0.2.2.5 (20080429)

- added incoming port for motorola devices (btc5)

- added battery line on/off

- added force military time off
This is a bit tricky... For example: Instead of sending 15 hour, sWM will send 3. Result: The digital time/date may get out of sync when it's not connected to Windows Mobile.

- added userfile edit
You still cannot browse for your exe file/shortcut (maybe later) but this is definetely more user friendly than some regedit.

- added spb weather compatibility
Read the weather data from HKCU\Software\Spb Software House\Spb Weather\Settings\Cities\0

Still lots of things to do and improve I know... :)

[shaileshashar]

thanks,
checking it out now.

[ful babu]

0.2.2.5 (20080429)

...

Still lots of things to do and improve I know... :)

still waiting for WMP RW function :(

[Sergelie]

Thanks for your sofware.

After connection, I get the message "press a button" I do, and nothing happens.

I have a HP6955 running WinMobile 5.0
The watch is the mbw-100

Let me know, please.

(I tried to reset the watch (I just received it), I am having troubble succeeding.)

[moneytoo]

Sergelie: Have you paired your watch again since the last restart of the watch?
Are the watch listed in the Bluetooth device manager?

[beginner]

Sergelie: Have you paired your watch again since the last restart of the watch?
Are the watch listed in the Bluetooth device manager?

hi moneytoo
I think something is wrong when update your application. This time I have uninstall previous version, delete port, softreset and install 0,2,2,5 but looks something wrong in the connection. I mean times when you softreset the device it cannot connect and say many errors.

In conclussion, when uninstall the registry values looks persisting ( I can confirm because the new installation is using same parameters as before with previous version-the userfiles for example-
In conclussion, best way to upgrade is after a hardreset.

[Sergelie]

Sergelie: Have you paired your watch again since the last restart of the watch?
Are the watch listed in the Bluetooth device manager?

Yes! Sorry, I did not choose the right port, now I have communications. Thanks!
You warned us about the fact that some features do not work on the 100 model. For me:

Caller ID works perfectly - 2 lines Name and number
I see the info of the song playing
I get warning on email arrival and sms

But I cannot control Media Player and I don't get the content of the sms, etc.

Is it normal or is it a matter of different configs, com ports, etc?

Even though, I am very happy with your sofware and of course the watch.

Thanks for your fast answers!

[wgary]

I'm trying to get this work with a Startrek (Cingular 3125) while my Advantage goes to the shop. Which COM port? Other advice? I'm endlessly trying things but no success...
UPDATE: I did a reset of the watch (why did it take me so long to think of that?) Registered COM6, paired, now it's working just right.

This product continues to improve improve improve! Very nice! I think Sony should buy you out for $1.5 million, because you have demonstrated that they do have a useful product with a much larger user base than they could have imagined. (But only if you keep giving us updates! :))

[moneytoo]

I've got some news for you:

Bad
- I've started but droped the translation/language support because of too much work, too much mess and more complicated updates

Neutral
- I received Bluetooth Vibrating Bracelet. It works just out of the box with Windows Mobile and notifies for incoming calls. I made a test call and the microphone and speaker on phone are still active so it's ok. I was planning to add support for messaging notifications but unfortunately it will require much more changes in the connection handling. So this is postponed for now...

Good
- I recommend you to install this free app for IM (ICQ, MSN...) - Slick (http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick). Something new is just around the corner :)
(Unfortunately IM+ won't be compatible with this method)
Does anyone of you uses MMS? I plan to replace MMS (0) with IM (0) in the main Messaging info screen. Is it ok with you?

[beginner]

I've got some news for you:

Bad
- I've started but droped the translation/language support because of too much work, too much mess and more complicated updates

Neutral
- I received Bluetooth Vibrating Bracelet. It works just out of the box with Windows Mobile and notifies for incoming calls. I made a test call and the microphone and speaker on phone are still active so it's ok. I was planning to add support for messaging notifications but unfortunately it will require much more changes in the connection handling. So this is postponed for now...

Good
- I recommend you to install this free app for IM (ICQ, MSN...) - Slick (http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick). Something new is just around the corner :)
(Unfortunately IM+ won't be compatible with this method)
Does anyone of you uses MMS? I plan to replace MMS (0) with IM (0) in the main Messaging info screen. Is it ok with you?


Moneytoo, definitively you are the king. Replace MMS, looks more interesting chat.

what's about GPS? Should be possible to have again interface with it. I would like to have some info, maybe coordinates.

[bremair]

My HTC Kaiser didn't differentiate between SMS and MMS, it's all incoming messages.

[McDoPDA]

Does anyone of you uses MMS? I plan to replace MMS (0) with IM (0) in the main Messaging info screen. Is it ok with you?I don't use MMS so no problem to replace MMS with IM for me.

When receiving e-mail, SMS or MMS, a letter appears on the MBW-150. Is it possible to have different letters for each kind of message ?

[McDoPDA]

- I've started but droped the translation/language support because of too much work, too much mess and more complicated updatesIf you need help for french translation, don't hesitate to ask me...

[Sergelie]

Hi moneytoo:

I am very pleased with your sofware - beyong my expectations! Yes msn msgs will be great, other languages do not matter to me. I don't mind about mms.

Let me tell you how smartWatchM behave on my Wm5 Ipaq6955 with Mbw-100 watch, just for your info, since you look for perfection! :)

Issues:

I have it installed on the sd card, and when I reboot with the autostart feature, it does not work (file not found, or not trusted kind of message). Next version, I will install on the main memory, maybe that's the issue).

If I click on the x to minimise, there is no way I can reopen it, so I have to make sure I use the minimise button you provided.

It happenned that I had 2 instances of smartWatchM running, witch made my machine very slow and forced me to reboot. Maybe a line of code that will prevent this would be welcome.

Wills:

An option that will let me choose 1 line instead of 2 for emails, text msgs, etc.
An option that will let me choose the lengh of time messages are shown on the watch.

Anyway, I am very pleased with the way it works now!

I installed the msn, icq, etc. software you suggested, it seems very good! and faster to log on than the real msn, so I am very pleased, thanks!

Cheers!

[pcwizzul]

Could someone (maybe moneytoo!) write a list of functions that work or don't work on the older mbw-100 and Fossil Abacus?
These older devices are availables for very low prices but I wouldn't like to buy one expecting great results and getting almost nothing out of it.
And what about btwatch? I'll post this on his topic too as I consider it quite usefull for people like me to decide which one to buy.
Thanks for the great app anyway!

[NRGZ28]

Checkout the wiki link he posted in the first post...

[pcwizzul]

Checkout the wiki link he posted in the first post...

I wrote this post because in the wiki is reported only "limited functionality" and is not said what the limitation is. I think that a table with functions and availability for every watch would be great. moneytoo already made a table with functionalities for the watch with the sony phones and with windows mobile ones. I was suggesting to make a similar table with different watches and thei functions in windows mobile.

[moneytoo]

pcwizzul:
The best functionality is with MBW-150. Oldest models are MBW-100, Abacus Caller ID Watch, etc.

Disadvantages of the oldest ones:
- browsing through the watch menu is forward only (and not much fast) (MBW-150 has volume control that makes it much easier)
- all watch screens display less text, only 96x16 pixels (MBW-150 has support for 192x16 scrolling text)
(*BTwatch by pcfixitman has aditional scrolling for text because he makes his app optimized for MBW-100. I'm thinking about it as well but it's not a current priority.)

[Sergelie]

pcwizzul:
The best functionality is with MBW-150. Oldest models are MBW-100, Abacus Caller ID Watch, etc.

Disadvantages of the oldest ones:
- browsing through the watch menu is forward only (and not much fast) (MBW-150 has volume control that makes it much easier)
- all watch screens display less text, only 96x16 pixels (MBW-150 has support for 192x16 scrolling text)
(*BTwatch by pcfixitman has aditional scrolling for text because he makes his app optimized for MBW-100. I'm thinking about it as well but it's not a current priority.)

Could you explain how to browse the menu on a Mbw-100, I do not master the technique ye! Thanks in advance.

And maybe you would know also how to control the MediaPlayer. For now, I can't.

[Demostrike]

Out of interest how much power does the bluetooth watch connction kick out of your phones?

[Sergelie]

Out of interest how much power does the bluetooth watch connction kick out of your phones?

Very little - Much less than the Wi-Fi connection.

[Demostrike]

Thanks for the heads up Sergelie, I think I'll get one of these as my birthday present to me. ;)

[moneytoo]

Hi, I need a volunteer. :) Because English is not my first language I dont feel much into it...
If anyone wants to have Spb Weather support for weather type, send me a short text for each weather icon in this image.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2580/weatherfw0.png

[ful babu]

Hi, I need a volunteer. :) Because English is not my first language I dont feel much into it...
If anyone wants to have Spb Weather support for weather type, send me a short text for each weather icon in this image.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2580/weatherfw0.png

i can do that .... :)

Plz correct me if im wrong,

(sequentially)

Not available
Bright Sunny
Sunny
Light Sunshine
Partly Cloudy
Cloudy
Foggy
Drizzle
Heavy rain
Snowy rain
Light Snow fall
Heavy snow fall
Hail Storm
Thunder Storm
Light rain / Sunshine
Thunder / Sunshine
Snowfall / Sunshine
Moonlit
Partly cloudy moonlit
Cloudy Moonlit
Cloudy Night
Drizzling Night
Heavy rainy night
Snowy rainy night
Light Snow fall night
Heavy snow fall night
Hail Storm night
Thunder Storm night
Light rain / Moonlit
Thunder / Moonlit
Snowfall / Moonlit

[moneytoo]

Great, thanks ful babu.
If anyone has better translation, please suggest it.

[moneytoo]

More than three months of development, experimenting, debugging, UI designing... I have spent tens hours in the source code and even much more time actually using the application. There are less reports of fatal error and more happy users (I hope). IM was the last step. My dream is fulfilled... So let's get rid of the leading zeros and start with version 1. :D
(There is a update button in smartWatchM so the development still continues.)

Latest version: 1.0.0.0 (20080505)

- small fixes

- updated additional assemblies

- added IM notifications (Slick)
- added IM notifications (IM+)
History must be turned on in both programs to receive IM notifications. IM+ for Smartphones doesnt have history option so notifications can be used on Pocket PCs only. Slick is free and stable IM, so you can give it a try.
IM (0) is not implemented in the Messaging info screen because it's hard to determine whatever the message was read or not. IM notifications have no repetition. I will try some workaround...

- added automatized update
I dont know about you but I love reading news on the go, reply emails on the go... and update software on the go. :-)

- added detailed forecast (Spb Weather)
Thanks, ful babu.

- www.smartmadsoft.com/forum launched
I still prefer xda-developers anyway. :)

[beginner]

More than three months of development, experimenting, debugging, UI designing... I have spent tens hours in the source code and even much more time actually using the application. There are less reports of fatal error and more happy users (I hope). IM was the last step. My dream is fulfilled... So let's get rid of the leading zeros and start with version 1. :D
(There is a update button in smartWatchM so the development still continues.)

Latest version: 1.0.0.0 (20080505)

- small fixes

- updated additional assemblies

- added IM notifications (Slick)
- added IM notifications (IM+)
History must be turned on in both programs to receive IM notifications. IM+ for Smartphones doesnt have history option so notifications can be used on Pocket PCs only. Slick is free and stable IM, so you can give it a try.
IM (0) is not implemented in the Messaging info screen because it's hard to determine whatever the message was read or not. IM notifications have no repetition. I will try some workaround...

- added automatized update
I dont know about you but I love reading news on the go, reply emails on the go... and update software on the go. :-)

- added detailed forecast (Spb Weather)
Thanks, ful babu.

- www.smartmadsoft.com/forum launched
I still prefer xda-developers anyway. :)

Moneytoo, let's try, I am sure will be more happy experience.

do you have plans about GPS?

[moneytoo]

Moneytoo, let's try, I am sure will be more happy experience.

do you have plans about GPS?

Yes, there will be GPS. It seems to work ok with internal GPS but there are some issues with BT GPS when you havn't got fix... As soon I solve this I will add the GPS support.

[bob2k4]

Hi, forgive me as I am new, I have searched as well but can't seam to find a concreate answer. My problem is I am using the watch software with the HTC Polaris, fantastic software but my phone battery used to last 2 day on average use, now I get 14 hours with less use. Is this normal for a Bluetooth connection to use so much? Can anything be done? Thanks.

[moneytoo]

Hi, forgive me as I am new, I have searched as well but can't seam to find a concreate answer. My problem is I am using the watch software with the HTC Polaris, fantastic software but my phone battery used to last 2 day on average use, now I get 14 hours with less use. Is this normal for a Bluetooth connection to use so much? Can anything be done? Thanks.

It really seems as too large battery draining. Have you ever had connected any other BT device to your Polaris?
Only advice I have is to turn off the Appointment notifications. Just give it a try.

[Slide]

Hi, forgive me as I am new, I have searched as well but can't seam to find a concreate answer. My problem is I am using the watch software with the HTC Polaris, fantastic software but my phone battery used to last 2 day on average use, now I get 14 hours with less use. Is this normal for a Bluetooth connection to use so much? Can anything be done? Thanks.

I have the same problem with my XDA Orbit 2 aka Touch Cruise.
My Phone Battery is emty after 12-14 hours when i use smartwatchm.

I think the problem is the Bluetooth connection. I have all 3-4 minutes re-connect´s.

But I have still no solution:-(

[brium13]

Hi, it's the same for me too, I just buy the MBW-100 :eek:, I have a POLARIS, the battery takes barely a day since :( (12 hours MAX).
By against the software works very well for me, no disconnections:D.

Thank you very much :D.

PS: Maybe the problem battery will be paid on the next version ?

Sorry for my English (Google translation inside)

[ful babu]

my ppc stays abt 2 days with no mp3, and continious mp3 playback goes upto 8 hrs irrespective of bluetooh function. and the watch stays almost 6-7 days with regular operation ... seems ok to me, guess there is no prob with the soft / watch

regards

[jactrum]

I'm a big fan of SmartWatchM as it is a great tool! I was hoping 'my problem' would be fixed with the latest version, but it still doesn't work. What I mean is the 'out of reach' buzzing that doesn't work with me. I own a HTC TyTn II
and a SE excecutive.

[imdbui]

I'm a big fan of SmartWatchM as it is a great tool! I was hoping 'my problem' would be fixed with the latest version, but it still doesn't work. What I mean is the 'out of reach' buzzing that doesn't work with me. I own a HTC TyTn II
and a SE excecutive.

Mine works, I'm also using a SE Exec and a Tilt with Dutty's 6.1

[moneytoo]

What I mean is the 'out of reach' buzzing that doesn't work with me.
What do you mean by this?

-------------------------------------------------

I've made the IM compatibility for IM+ v5.1 which was released few days ago but they took it down and replaced by 4.58 again. Because of different history files (RTF instead of HTML in the new version), the IM+ notifications doesnt work.

What to do:
1) Wait for Shape Services to release 5.1 again
2) Use Slick
3) Wait for me to add 4.58 compatibility
4) Get the 5.1 trial (I have no idea whatever the 4.x will work or not, or the let you register this version...)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5458/implushistorycj5.png

[Sergelie]

From my point of view, Slick is far better than IM+, and it is free.

[Karmarock]

Here an update to the yet unresolved problem of MBW150 battery drain with 6.0, 6.1 rom and the Athena.
Installed wm6.1 from Irus full, set up MBW150 + smartwatch, tested it ... maximum 13 h, no joy!
Determined to service my watch, I was stopped from doing it just from the possibility of seeing back the watch not earlier than 1 month from now (sony ericsson service point has to post the watch to Fossil with no guarantees and not even an idea on repairing time).
Actually I'm still convinced that the problem is ROM/RADIO/software dependent as someone who experienced 12hr drains with one rom experienced a week or more with other roms, most of them WM5.0 (if it were a problem of defective battery/watch I should be experiencing much less than 12hr drain).

Anyone with Athena and a 6.0/6.1 windows mobile rom who is experiencing watch lasting a week or longer who could point me to his installed radio/ROM versions so that I could install them? I would be very grateful!

[brium13]

Hi, it's the same for me too, I just buy the MBW-100 , I have a POLARIS, the battery takes barely a day since (12 hours MAX).
By against the software works very well for me, no disconnections

Thank you very much :D.

PS: Maybe the problem battery will be paid on the next version ?

Sorry for my English (Google translation inside)


I speak too fast, it now has not stopped disconnect :( , strange :( .

An idea :confused: ?

[gtm55]

Anyone with Athena and a 6.0/6.1 windows mobile rom who is experiencing watch lasting a week or longer who could point me to his installed radio/ROM versions so that I could install them? I would be very grateful!

Athena with AP4 rom and 1.57 radio : 6 days watch battery life (MBW-100)
rom before (wm6.1): 8 hours

[ful babu]

hi moneytoo,

hav u figured out abt the RW(previous track) button yet ?

thx

[wgary]

Here an update to the yet unresolved problem of MBW150 battery drain with 6.0, 6.1 rom and the Athena.
Installed wm6.1 from Irus full, set up MBW150 + smartwatch, tested it ... maximum 13 h, no joy!
Determined to service my watch, I was stopped from doing it just from the possibility of seeing back the watch not earlier than 1 month from now (sony ericsson service point has to post the watch to Fossil with no guarantees and not even an idea on repairing time).
Actually I'm still convinced that the problem is ROM/RADIO/software dependent as someone who experienced 12hr drains with one rom experienced a week or more with other roms, most of them WM5.0 (if it were a problem of defective battery/watch I should be experiencing much less than 12hr drain).

Anyone with Athena and a 6.0/6.1 windows mobile rom who is experiencing watch lasting a week or longer who could point me to his installed radio/ROM versions so that I could install them? I would be very grateful!
Have an Athena, which is being serviced, and using a Cingular 3125 in the meantime. Both work well with SWM, but the battery with Athena was barely a 12-hour day and I was wondering whether to send it back. But with the 3125 the battery hardly moves during the day, I can easily go several days without charging. Conclusion: It is definitely the ROM/Radio/etc. NOT THE WATCH!

[beginner]

I have now AP 4 with MWB 150.
After move into this rom plus radio 1.57, the watch maintain the battery for days, It is perfect now.

[PBL1]

beginner

I have now AP 4 with MWB 150.
After move into this rom plus radio 1.57, the watch maintain the battery for days, It is perfect now.

Same here, :) the rom BT stack makes a huge difference

[Karmarock]

Thank you all! Now I can see the light!
AP4 is the solution, the only fact that stops me from flashing AP4 is that it is a one way process: no way to go back to standard roms before downgrade process will be released. Up to the moment there will be other options I think i'll stuck with recharging every 12hr, but at least you gave me hope!

[jactrum]

[QUOTE=moneytoo;2185949]What do you mean by this?

What I mean is that while walking away fom my TyTnII I thought there would be a signal for lost connection on my watch, but there isn't. The program says: 'No data. Wait or press button on watch' When I return to my TyTnII eventually I see a message that the connection is re-established: 'The watch has been connected'. I think it's a big convenience to know when you are out of reach, so you are remembered that you left your phone. Do I expect too much or am I doing something wrong? Otherwise nothing more than compliments for your terrific program!

[moneytoo]

What I mean is that while walking away fom my TyTnII I thought there would be a signal for lost connection on my watch, but there isn't. The program says: 'No data. Wait or press button on watch' When I return to my TyTnII eventually I see a message that the connection is re-established: 'The watch has been connected'. I think it's a big convenience to know when you are out of reach, so you are remembered that you left your phone. Do I expect too much or am I doing something wrong? Otherwise nothing more than compliments for your terrific program!

This is a function of all BT watch. You probably turned it off. It's the third icon ("Watch---Phone") in the graphic menu on the watch. The watch vibrates when the connection with a phone is lost. I hope this is what you're looking for.

[jactrum]

This is a function of all BT watch. You probably turned it off. It's the third icon ("Watch---Phone") in the graphic menu on the watch. The watch vibrates when the connection with a phone is lost. I hope this is what you're looking for.

You were right, it was my clumsiness! (Not your words lol) It's working indeed Thanks!

[ful babu]

hi moneytoo,

hav u figured out abt the RW(previous track) button yet ?

thx


any update so far ???? :o

[moneytoo]

any update so far ???? :o

Unfortunately not yet...

[zaki67]

I have installed the latest version and I have to say that the IM feature is just like the appointment reminder feature ,sometimes it works but usually doesn't.I have tried both Slick and IM+ with similar results.
Other wise I have no problems ,all other alerts working fine and I charge the watch once a week just in case.I have a kaiser with original www rom.

[alex0815]

I have the same problem with my XDA Orbit 2 aka Touch Cruise.
My Phone Battery is emty after 12-14 hours when i use smartwatchm.

I think the problem is the Bluetooth connection. I have all 3-4 minutes re-connect´s.

But I have still no solution:-(

Same here, Polaris lasts 2-3 Days without watch, less than a workday with watch. Had to stop using the watch, because of the terrible battery-life.

[NRGZ28]

Moneytoo... Do you think it you can add a feature where it will read current weather information from a predefined section in the registry ? It can even be a couple of keys and values in your app's section of the registry I wouldnt mind. But I would like to update those settings with another application (one I developed) and have that info show up on the watch. Is that possible ? :)

[moneytoo]

Moneytoo... Do you think it you can add a feature where it will read current weather information from a predefined section in the registry ? It can even be a couple of keys and values in your app's section of the registry I wouldnt mind. But I would like to update those settings with another application (one I developed) and have that info show up on the watch. Is that possible ? :)

No problem. Just send me the details via pm or mail (just briefly what you want me to read and what to display on the watch). ;)

[pcwizzul]

iI'm waiting for my mbw150 to arrive and I was wondering if there is or there could be the way to read data from the gps or from a gps related app to show speed distance and similar on the watch.
what you think?

[Goatmaster]

moneytoo: Can you add weather support for SBSH's pocketweather?

[moneytoo]

moneytoo: Can you add weather support for SBSH's pocketweather?

I took thirt look to SBSH's PocketWeather and I finally got it. I will add it but probably some time later because I'm working on bit more important stuff (support for Agile Messenger, Mundu IM, Inlux Messenger...)

iI'm waiting for my mbw150 to arrive and I was wondering if there is or there could be the way to read data from the gps or from a gps related app to show speed distance and similar on the watch.
what you think?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2177364&postcount=1055

[wgary]

I took thirt look to SBSH's PocketWeather and I finally got it. I will add it but probably some time later because I'm working on bit more important stuff (support for Agile Messenger, Mundu IM, Inlux Messenger...)
PW support would be appreciated, for at least a few of us this may even be more important than IM. :) But hey, I love everything you are doing.

[BazRat]

I have been using smartWatchM for about a week now and it's great..... the only issue I'm having is the repeat only works if my pda (kaiser) is not in standby (with display on). If my PDA is off it doesn't notify me. Is this just me or are others experiencing this? also I quite often get disconnects even if my pda and watch are right next to each other!!!

[beginner]

Hi Moneytoo, I have been trying to have more than 15 items on the menu but looks no possible, after change on settings the number of items to be available, could you confirm please?

[moneytoo]

wgary: Ok, next release will include support for SBSH PocketWeather.

BazRat: I've checked it and it's really caused by the WM standby. I will try to fix this. I wonder why nobody reported this before (this is PPC problem only, no issue on Smartphone).

beginner: 15 menu items is the current limit. I will try to extend this soon (make some loop).

[ful babu]

...
BazRat: I've checked it and it's really caused by the WM standby. I will try to fix this. I wonder why nobody reported this before
...




wen the ppc goes to sleep ( by pressing the power button / auto ) the repeated notificaion ( i've tried missed call & sms) does not work ( may be the "timer" pauses), and works fine after turning it on untill it goes to sleep again.
...
regards

:eek: i told u so before !!!

[BazRat]

BazRat: I've checked it and it's really caused by the WM standby. I will try to fix this. I wonder why nobody reported this before (this is PPC problem only, no issue on Smartphone).

Excellent.... at least it isn't just me..... If you can fix it that would be great.... many thanks moneytoo.

[moneytoo]

New version has just arrived - 1.0.1.0 (20080525).

- added tray icon
Tray icon has two functions - 1. Indicates the connection state of BT watch (gray = disconnected, colored = connected), 2. Can be used for launching/unhiding sWM (tray icon is visible on both PPC/SP but only Pocket PC users can touch the icon). As always, this feature can be turned on/off in the menu.

- added IM notification support for Agile Messenger
A little bit pricy but great messenger. Agile Messenger (http://www.agilemobile.com/). Should work on both PPC/SP.

- added IM notification support for Mundu IM
Another cool messenger. It's cheap an has nice fieatures as displaying avatars. Mundu IM (http://messenger.mundu.com/). PPC/SP

- added IM notification support for PIGEON!
Amazing messenger for ICQ network only (freeware). PIGEON! (http://pigeon.vpro.ru/). PPC/SP

- added weather support for SBSH PocketWeather
Finally. :D SBSH PocketWeather (http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=32). PPC/SP

- added weather support for Chome Weather
Cool application by OrganicM. Weather as another sliding panel for Smartphone (WM 6.1 ). Chome Weather (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392517).

- added support for MoDaCo AppToDate
Application with great potential, checks for application updates. I hope more developers will support this. More at AppToDate (http://apptodate.modaco.com/), made by Paul.

- added dotted line when charging (battery line)

- fixed startup shortcut (non English WM)

- fixed email sync in background

- small fixes

[Slide]

Hi Moneytoo,

when i disconnect the Watch (Bluettoth off) and ONE new email comes in, then after re-connect the Watch (Bluetooth on) the new email was transfer to the Watch perfect.

But comes more than one email in, it was nothing transfer to the Watch after re-connect!

Greeting
Slide

[moneytoo]

Slide:

This is probably related to the PockePC standby issue which hasnt been resolved yet. (It affects this, repeated notifications and appointment notifications)
Try setting shorter notification interval (0.5 or 1 minute) and larger display timeout (1 or 2 minutes) until this will be fixed.

[Slide]

Slide:

This is probably related to the PockePC standby issue which hasnt been resolved yet. (It affects this, repeated notifications and appointment notifications)
Try setting shorter notification interval (0.5 or 1 minute) and larger display timeout (1 or 2 minutes) until this will be fixed.

Can solve this problem?

Greeting
Slide

[ldborn]

One of the things I like the most is the display on the watch, is there a possibility to leave the display permanently on during daytime. I don't care if I must charge the watch daily.

[delboydell]

doh thats what you get when you dont read the thread properly.

[wgary]

Thanks for the SBSH Weather support. This app keeps getting more and more usable. Keep up the great work. And by the way, I hope those of us who are enjoying these efforts are remembering to chip in a little money here and there.

[Pernod99]

@moneytoo

Do you have knowhow of Symbian 3rd Programming ?

A lot of Nokia (N90, N95, N96) User would use the MBW-150 AND the Nokia Devices .... ;)

[moneytoo]

I have been using smartWatchM for about a week now and it's great..... the only issue I'm having is the repeat only works if my pda (kaiser) is not in standby (with display on). If my PDA is off it doesn't notify me. Is this just me or are others experiencing this? also I quite often get disconnects even if my pda and watch are right next to each other!!!

I have done some fixes and the repeat should now work on Pocket PCs. (Download the latest version 1.0.1.1)

Pernod99:

I dont. :-) Maybe someone sometime... But it should be possible to make similar application for Symbian. Same with Blackberry (I guess).

I was thinking of some technical demo in Java but this has no practical use because you cannot intercept SMS or anything like that...

My collegue done some basic app for Palm but he hasnt released it yet... I have to talk to him. :)

[pre112]

Can This Work With A Sony Erricson K608i Phone It Would Be Cool If It Did !!!!! I Know It Doesnt But I Use Mine With X51v As A Remote It Would Be Cool If My Phone Could Display Track Name Etc.....

[beginner]

hi moneytoo
how we could save the customization made on menu and userfile? it is interessting for hard reset or upgrades

[moneytoo]

hi moneytoo
how we could save the customization made on menu and userfile? it is interessting for hard reset or upgrades

Just export/backup before hard resetting registry entries in HKLM\Software\smartmadsoft\smartWatchM using any advanced registry editor (I use Registry plugin by Resco but there are some more and free as well I hope).

[Slide]

Hi Moneytoo,

is it possible before a notification sent to the clock to check the connection between smartwatchm and Clock?

Connected = send Message / Not Connected = Wait for connection then send.

Greeting
Slide

[raijinfx]

hi moneytoo,

Thanks for an amazing app i just got my mbw 150 and im amazed by the extended features the watch now has running through your program.

Im using a htc touch witn wm6 professional and for some reason i cant toggle the microphone or loudspeaker.

Durning a call when i press and hold the rw and fw buttons the keypad/call status windows are shown but

when i press and hold the middle left button to toggle loudspeaker the screen lights up but nothing happens

and when i press and hold the top right but to mute nothing happens at all the watch jus displays the phone date/time

do you know what the problem might be?

Thanks in advance

[moneytoo]

Slide:
It's a bit complicated but possible. I will think of that.

Durning a call when i press and hold the rw and fw buttons the keypad/call status windows are shown but
This is a bit smartphone specific workaround for mute/unmute. I will look if there is any other solution for this.

when i press and hold the middle left button to toggle loudspeaker the screen lights up but nothing happens
This works fine on Kaiser. Can you use the green call key during a call (press & hold) to toggle the loudspeaker?

[Slide]

Slide:
It's a bit complicated but possible. I will think of that.

Thanks Moneytoo,

then i miss no more message! :)

Greeting
Slide

[moneytoo]

then i miss no more message! :)

Just set the notifications to repeat. This should work fine.

[Slide]

Just set the notifications to repeat. This should work fine.

I have it to repeat.

Sometimes the disconnect is longer then the repeat time.

It would be good if the message was sent if a connection is existing.

Greeting
Slide

[raijinfx]

hi thanks for the reply

yes i can use the green call key on the phone to toggle the loudspeaker but pressing and holding the left middle doesnt produce any result except lighting up the screen and if i go to the smart watch menu while in a call and hold down that button it says:

"Time sent
Play/pause button pressed"


And thanks for looking into the mute.

also is it possible for you to add the function of controlling the htc audio manager with the watch not just wmp?

ending/answering a call with the watch would also be a good feature

Thanks in advance

[dexxa05]

Hi,

I want know if the soft works with MBW-100?

Thx

[ice_coffee]

Can This Work With A Sony Erricson K608i Phone It Would Be Cool If It Did !!!!! I Know It Doesnt But I Use Mine With X51v As A Remote It Would Be Cool If My Phone Could Display Track Name Etc.....

being a Sony watch, it is no real surprise that it works with Sony phones out of the box !! primarily newer sony phones as I understand it ! (including full music control)

[beginner]

I don't know if it is due new version of smartwatch or that now I am using a new rom for Athena (lite) but the fact is now when you say ok to auto start, the watch conect automatically after soft reset, NICE!!!

[Karmarock]

Any experience with AP4 lite, AP5 or new Irus+Taxist lite rom and MBW150?

Battery drain on watch and device?
Disconnections?
Stereo streaming quality?

[Glarie]

I had tested smartWatchM v1.0.1.1 on HTC Touch Diamond with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, it was working impropriety. Does smartWatchM support Windows Mobile 6.1 ?

[moneytoo]

Glarie:
What do you mean by "impropriety"? Please be more specific.
SmartWatchM works on both Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional (tested on Kaiser) and Standard (tested on Wings) ok.

[ful babu]

I had tested smartWatchM v1.0.1.1 on HTC Touch Diamond with Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, it was working impropriety. Does smartWatchM support Windows Mobile 6.1 ?

it is wokin for me , CE OS 5.2.2021 ( Build 19521.1.1.0)

regards

[h4waii]

Works fine on WM6.1 on my Vox.

I do have a question however, I noticed you indicated you received a vibrating BT bracelet, I've got one being sent to me - does it work for vibrating on incoming SMS by itself? If not, have you added the functionality into smartWatchWM as it seemed you were going to?

Thanks. Keep up the superb work man.

[_Dex_]

Hi i really love your app but it only works on my father's phone :P why?? im a symbian 3rd edition user hehehe i just bought the mbw-150 a few days ago an i really would like to use it with my n95 but it doesnt works after a few hours of investigation i got into your site and i was wondering if there would be any way you guys could help me i really would be very pleased to port this application into symbian 3rd edition os just i need a where to start if you guys could give me an idea i can do this for you what do you think?

[moneytoo]

h4waii:
Only call notifications work out of the box. Because of the different connection I will have to make another application for this. But I havent started to work on this. Unfortunately I dont have much time for this but maybe some time... :)

_Dex_:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2241086&postcount=1098
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2254675&postcount=1099

[ChInEsE ChIcKeN]

i was interested in buying a SE BT watch just to use it with this problem, but it seems that it is still a little buggy and at work... i was wondering if it would be possible to create a bug list?

[moneytoo]

ChInEsE ChIcKeN:

http://www.smartmadsoft.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=10

[h4waii]

moneytoo; A seperate application for the LM959 / Vibrating Bracelet would be cool. Let me know if you need some testing done when you get around to it, no rush. Excellent work with smartWatchW!

[beginner]

Any experience with AP4 lite, AP5 or new Irus+Taxist lite rom and MBW150?

Battery drain on watch and device?
Disconnections?
Stereo streaming quality?

I have been running for a while taxist rom and I have to say it has problems of bluetooth disconnections with the headset, not with the watch.

[cell_crazy]

Does anybody know if this new fossil watch is compatible with smarthwatchM

http://www.fossil.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=12052&catalogId=10052&categoryId=30016&parent_category_rn=30001&productId=22010065&Ne=25&N=4294959642&No=48&imagePath=FX6002

It looks like the abacus, so technically it should be compatible right?
I know this thread is based off the MBW-150, but do all the features work for the MBW-100? Besides the look and design - is there anything technologically different between the watches?

[Karmarock]

I have been running for a while taxist rom and I have to say it has problems of bluetooth disconnections with the headset, not with the watch.

What about battery drain?

[miguel_acedo]

Hi I have just bougt the abacus watch and I manage to install the software in my Athena but I noticed that the battery of the watch drains very quickly it does not last for a day, I am using the radio version 1.47.51.00 and the ROM is the original the 2.19.453.4, do you think that if I upgrade the radio I could obtain a better battery liife?.

Also since it is the Abacus watch it only has two buttons is there a way that when I receive a message I can scroll it in order to read the complete message in the watch? because right now when I receive a message I see only the first part of it in the watch, I also tested the Btwatch software an it has an autoscroll feature so the message is displayed complete, is there a way to enable something like that for this kind of watch or is it possible to enable a button in the watch in order to view all the message?


Thank you and congratulations for this great software.

[Karmarock]

Hi I have just bougt the abacus watch and I manage to install the software in my Athena but I noticed that the battery of the watch drains very quickly it does not last for a day, I am using the radio version 1.47.51.00 and the ROM is the original the 2.19.453.4, do you think that if I upgrade the radio I could obtain a better battery liife?.

If for you battery drain is an issue like for me, downgrade to wm5 and you'll get 2 weeks of watch's batteries.
AP4 is reported to be good on battery but is a one way ticket (you can't downgrade to standard roms) and has problems.
Watch's battery life on other recent roms has not been reported.
Upgrading radio to 1.57 will not help.

Looking at my signature which is right over your mail anyway would have saved you a question.

[wiaza100]

Thank you for the wonderful program

Works very well

But I have a problem after use arabizer

Do not show any texts to watch

Shows error 031

http://www.arb-up.com/files/arb-up-2008-1/h4s18737.jpg (http://www.arb-up.com/)

Upon arrival sms texts do not appear
The same error appear 031
This error at all the options do not show any texts

I think solve related to fonts

Are there any recommendations to solve this problem

[moneytoo]

Is the SMS written in latin (English) or Arabic? Does the SMS uses any non latin characters, is it in unicode?
Do you see at least the envelope notification on the screen upon the message arrival?

[wiaza100]

SMS written in (English) no arabic characters

there no text at all just time and date

when i try to Use any option, such as stopwatch

Not showing any text

But when I disable arabizer

Texts appear again


i have try the btWatch v0.1.8

This problem did not appear

But I'm much better your smarthwatchM Pro :)

[moneytoo]

Ok, I will try to duplicate this issue and fix it.
What Arabizer do you have? SmartNet Pocket Arabizer?
Do you have WM5 or WM6?

[wiaza100]

HTC Athena X7500
Rom: AP 4.0 ( WM6.1)

Arabizer : MOBiDIV Arabizer Suite ( IMAGiNET )

http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp;jsessionid=LWnCpBbQqP6nX15Pp12 GZKMQLyyQZdXQM0lQC8pxVMSBYPHfx8L2!904938638?id=pro d5700958&sf=48190044


The official site
http://www.citglobal.com/mobidiv/control/product?id=7

Thank you for attention

[moneytoo]

v1.0.1.2 (20080616)

- added start hidden option on/off (PPC)
Enable this to do not siplay smartWatchM window no matter the watch is connected or not. Available only on PPC, tray icon must be enabled.

- added startup delay option
Add few seconds delay if you receive IOException because smartWatchM opens the port too soon after system start.

- added Samsung backlight fix (test)
The backlight goes on every time you push a button on the watch. Enable this option to put your Samsung device into sleep mode instead of standby. Then Samsung may need press the power button twice to wake up. Tested on Samsung i780. I will test Blackjack I/II later.

- fixed Arabizer compatibility
This should fix wiaza100's issue.

BTW: I have switched from HTC S730 to Samsung i780 as my default device so this will probably motivate me to fix the appointments. :)

[wiaza100]

You are really creative
Program works fantastically

[muciumbe]

Is this program compatible with HTC Diamond?

[moneytoo]

Is this program compatible with HTC Diamond?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2277819#post2277922

[kw1007]

I use O2 plus for these kind of schedule. However, my mobile still rings even I have my profile switched to silent. Do you have any idea?

[TheChampJT]

What is everybody's personal opinion on these watches? Is it worth it? How much did you pay, and which model?

[gtm55]

What is everybody's personal opinion on these watches? Is it worth it? How much did you pay, and which model?

ies it is worth it, thanks to moneytoo and pcfixitman (retired i think...) and their applications. I mainly use only basic function but is great thing to check your mail without touching your phone

i have mbw-100 180 euro (great design) and mbw-150 220 euro (great functionality), i wish them were combined...

[alfredtv]

moneytoo first off I have to say thank you, I have been using this program since your first release and I have to say that it really turns the watch into a more useful device than SE expected.

One problem, I just upgraded (depends on how you look at it) from the T-Mobile DASH to the HTC Universal (WM6.1) I have tried to get it to connect with the watch and it does pair through the application but I can not get it to connect after that I have changed the COM from 5 - 7 on COM5 it does say waiting for watch..... but when I push buttons on the watch nothing happens

Do you have any info that may help me?

[moneytoo]

alfredtv
Sometimes the watch may get crazy so try reseting the watch first (enter pairing mode, then press&hold top right and bottom right keys until the display changes) and pair the watch witch WM again. If it wont work just try deleting watch from BT manager, delete the COM port from BT manager and few restarts.

[Skiddy]

I have done some fixes and the repeat should now work on Pocket PCs. (Download the latest version 1.0.1.1)

Pernod99:

I dont. :-) Maybe someone sometime... But it should be possible to make similar application for Symbian. Same with Blackberry (I guess).

I was thinking of some technical demo in Java but this has no practical use because you cannot intercept SMS or anything like that...

My collegue done some basic app for Palm but he hasnt released it yet... I have to talk to him. :)

Has there been any progress with the Palm application. I would certainly be interested in trying it out.

[Nightcookie]

moneytoo,


Firstly, saw your great program, bought myself a MBW-150 and am lovin' it! Great work! :)
I have two minor issues with MMS (yes I do use that) that I haven't seen reported, so:

When I receive an MMS,
1) my watch registers one new Email, not a new MMS.
2) MMS details are not shown. The notification on the watch is just the envelope, no details afterwards (so not like the MMS test command).

Using an o2 Trion / HTC TyTN with WM6, the MMS app is ArcSoft's MMS Composer v3.5.2.24C.

Any ideas? Registering MMS as MMS and not Email would be great!

Many thanks,

N.

[p_hsieh]

Dear Moneytoo,

This is a great application! I really thank you for the effort.

One request, I understand it works with SPB Weather. However, it doesn't seem to work with the weather component of SPB Traveler. Could you make that miracle happen? Thanks!

[Nightcookie]

Dear Moneytoo,

This is a great application! I really thank you for the effort.

One request, I understand it works with SPB Weather. However, it doesn't seem to work with the weather component of SPB Traveler. Could you make that miracle happen? Thanks!


... or the weather component of Spb Mobile Shell?

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie, p_hsieh:
I will see what I can do.

[Nightcookie]

Nightcookie, p_hsieh:
I will see what I can do.

moneytoo,

thanks a lot for looking into this! Anything new on that end?

[NRGZ28]

Hi moneytoo. Here's an idea...

How about user generated notifications ? For example, you could monitor a registry key and if it changes its value, you could trigger a notification with display on the watch ? For example... monitor HKLM\Software\Soft\ "Update" and "TexttoDisplay". If "update" changes from its previous value, then read what's in "TextToDisplay" and display it on the watch a scrolling message ? Hey if you could do this... I would donate another $20 to you... I still use the "dont show senders name in email" option every day :)

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie:
No news yet. But I'm installing these apps right now. :)

NRGZ28:
I had similar idea lomg time ago. I havent used any registry watching so this could be a bit tricky for me. A lot easier (for both me and probably other developers as well) could be following scenario: Create, edit, or copy text file to smartmadsoft\smartWatchM\ext folder and the content of this file would be automatically loaded and displayed on the watch. First and second line separated by new line. Add some vibrate / not vibrate option.. How about this? Is this ok with you?

[NRGZ28]

Hey that would be great if you could that! I'll take anything :) The registry method would be more "elegant" IMO, but it's up to you. It shouldn't be too hard to write a subroutine that checks two registry keys every few seconds and then takes action if they do... is it ? I mean you're already pulling info from the registry for your Options...

[Nightcookie]

Nightcookie:
No news yet. But I'm installing these apps right now. :)

Gee, thanks! :)

[moneytoo]

Both Spb Traveler and Spb Mobile Shell 2 use some binary format for weather forecast. Since this cannot be read easily, support for these apps wont be added.

[Nightcookie]

Both Spb Traveler and Spb Mobile Shell 2 use some binary format for weather forecast. Since this cannot be read easily, support for these apps wont be added.

Thanks a lot for looking into this anyway!

Any ideas about the MMS issue (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2332994&postcount=1143)?

Best,

N.

[p_hsieh]

Both Spb Traveler and Spb Mobile Shell 2 use some binary format for weather forecast. Since this cannot be read easily, support for these apps wont be added.

I would still love to say, thank you! for following up even though it didn't get solved. Best wishes!

[moneytoo]

Version 1.0.2.0 is available now.

- added close connection option
This will enable device option menu without restarting application.

- added bluetooth on/off setting

- added external (3rd party) notification support
More info below.

- fixed compatibility with new version of Pigeon

- minor fixes

------------------

External (3rd party) notifications

This allow anyone to create their custom notification - vibrate the watch, display envelope and two lines of text.
To display this notification, just create or edit any *.txt file in smartWatchm\ext directory. (Read the smartWatchM directory from HKLM\Software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm, Path).
To display the two lines, save these two lines (separated by new line) as a content of this txt file.
To customize the notification, put any of following commands in the filename. (For example My_notification_EnvelopeOn_TextOff.txt will display only envelope and vibrate.)

EnvelopeOn - display envelope and vibrate (cannot be turned off)
EnvelopeOff (default) - not to display envelope

VibrateOn (default) - vibrate
VibrateOff - not to vibrate

TextOn (default) - load and display content of txt file
TextOff - not to display any text

------------------

Nightcookie:
I havent found any problems in the code. But it may be true. I will configure my phone for MMS and try some time.

NRGZ28:
Here it is. :)

[NRGZ28]

Awesome man! Quick question... How does your app know when that file gets modified, deleted, etc.. Or how does your app know when I create the file with the specified parameters ? Does it poll the directory every few seconds or something and compare the old file vs. the new file.. or how did you make it work ? :)

[NRGZ28]

Just thought I'd share this with my fellow Sony watch wearears... Today I opened up the watch to change out the vibrate motor. The stock one is weak and it might as well not be there, I could never feel it. I had an old Tmobile Samsung T219 phone that I no longer needed and was going to throw away. I opened it up and took its vibrate motor, which is a lot more powerful than the one in the watch. I wedged in it between the bottom left corner of the watch and the battery, connected the two wires to the pads underneath and removed the stock motor. Now I have a watch that can actually notify me of things... instead of constantly having to wonder if.. (was the a vibration ?! I better check anyway).. :D

[moneytoo]

Nice mod. :)

Awesome man! Quick question... How does your app know when that file gets modified, deleted, etc.. Or how does your app know when I create the file with the specified parameters ? Does it poll the directory every few seconds or something and compare the old file vs. the new file.. or how did you make it work ? :)

FileSystemWatcher

[berlotti]

Hi moneytoo,

thank you for this great software, i love it!!

I wish an additional option... it is possible to add the option: suspend the WM PPC after call?

thanks!
Regards Ron

And now i will look how to donate you for this great soft :D

[NRGZ28]

Nice mod. :)



FileSystemWatcher

Okay... but I put a text file in there with all the parameters you specified...and.. nothing happened! :cool:

[moneytoo]

berlotti:
I will see... :)

NRGZ28:
Try restarting sWM. Make sure External notifications are anabled. Txt file must be created or edited. Copying to the ext directory od renaming the file wont work.

[shaileshashar]

Hi moneytoo!
Just bought the diamond and tried to pair the watch through swm.
It shows "Watch Paired successfully" and with COM 3 & 4 i get "Press any button on the watch" but after that it does not do anything.
Any ideas or registry changes ???

Edit:
Got it to work.
Created a new incoming com port 5 and removed the 'secure connection' check box in bluetooth settings. Then selected com 5 in 'incoming ports'.

Hope this helps other diamond users.

[NRGZ28]

berlotti:
I will see... :)

NRGZ28:
Try restarting sWM. Make sure External notifications are anabled. Txt file must be created or edited. Copying to the ext directory od renaming the file wont work.

No matter what I do, I can't it to notify me of anything.... I tried copying the file into the directory with SWM running, editing the file... etc. What am I doing wrong ?

P.S. It seems that the new behavious of the "Hide" softkey when SWM is open is to actually hide the application. Before it was more of a minimize. Do you think we can go back to actually minimizing ? :) And another thing, I noticed that if SWM is already running and you open it a second time, you have two instances running. Maybe some type of self check is in order... :) Thanks.

[moneytoo]

Do you put the text file in smartmadsoft/smartWatchM/ext directory and not in the smartWatchM directory itself?
I could check it on Dash soon. I could probably add some error messages as well or send you some tool for test. (I will see...)

You can minimize the application selecting Minimize, pressing home or back key (SP) or pressing ok or the [x] button (PPC). So the default action for left soft key should be hiding the app actually. It prevents from closing the app by system as well.

I have watched some tutorial that shows how to prevent from running two or more instances of the same. This shouldnt happen normally, only under some courious cases. I have never seen this but I may add such checking.

[NRGZ28]

I know what you're saying... remember I develop applications for smartphones as well :) It was just nice to hit the hide and just hide the app (but not actually hide it from task managers). I know have to remember to hit the home key.. which is a change.

The file.. I put it in the ext folder, per your instructions, but nothing happens... :(

[jfos]

File is working great for me. I'm editing it with PocketNotepad. When I press save button, after few seconds envelope and two lines are shown...

Very nice work moneytoo! Thanks!

[madbird]

hi

first of all i have to say 'TUMBS UP' for this cute piece of software. i used it now for two weeks and its really nice because my 'phone' is a htc advantage and i dont need to pull this giant out of my bag anymore just to see who is calling or be reminded to appointments and arrival of messages.
the issue with the drain of battery happens also to my mbw-150 (tested with advantage wm6 radio 1.50 and 1.38) but didnt mind me that much, because i have to recharge the advatage every day, so i charge a second device. downgrading to wm5 to stop the drain is no solution anyhow, but it shows that the problem is the bt-stack of the ameo not the programm.
the only 'bug' so far is that somtimes the connection to my bt headset is cutted off, in the middle of a call. i testet this with a jabra 3030 and a nokia bh-500. i pickup the call talk for a while and suddenly the headset signals a lost connection and i hear the caller at the speakers of the phone. i have switch the call back to the headset manualy with the phone's software, to get the call back to the headset. but this may also be a problem of the advantage bt-stack.

so overall a big thankyou again, there will be some bucks that make there way to your account. i cant wait for new versions and features, (and a better bt stack on the advantage ;)) madbird.

[Paultnl]

I have the same problem, headset drops out about 90 seconds into the call :-( Everything else is great.

[JimSmith94]

The same thing happens with my Mogul/Titan/PPC-6800. When I first started using this app with WM 5 on the phone, the watch would lose its connection every minute or so. That was fine because it didn't interfere with my phone call on my headset. Ever since using WM 6 and 6.1 ROMs, the watch keeps its connection but the headset loses its, which is a much worse situation.

From everything I've read, it seems to be the newer Bluetooth stack in the newer versions of WM that causes the issue. I have learned to disable Bluetooth on the watch when a call comes in. Hopefully one day, a new Bluetooth stack will fix this.

[moneytoo]

I have the same problem, headset drops out about 90 seconds into the call :-( Everything else is great.

I have just updated the latest release. Download the latest version again. I have made tiny little change that could possibly fix that (but I'm not sure, I dont have a headset).

If it wont help, I could add option to close connection during call to avoid disconection. Unfortunately a key press is always required to reconnect the watch.

[JimSmith94]

I hope the new version will fix it, although I'm in Poland for a while, and can't test it, because my Sprint phone doesn't work here anyway. Just in case it doesn't, could you add the option to close the connection during calls anyway? That would definitely cure the problem, and I would be more apt to leave Bluetooth running on my watch. :)

[madbird]

I have just updated the latest release. Download the latest version again. I have made tiny little change that could possibly fix that (but I'm not sure, I dont have a headset).

If it wont help, I could add option to close connection during call to avoid disconection. Unfortunately a key press is always required to reconnect the watch.


hi

i will give it a try on a long workday tommorow. i give feedback what happens to disconections.

greet's mad

[ful babu]

i hav a suggestion,

there could be a new menu named quick dial , wen we'll enter in the menu, (long press stop/play) speed dial list will come and could be scrolled thru volume keys. and the shown no. can be dialed (short press stop/play button). this speed dial list can be obtained from the htc fav. contact list or so.

regards

[Ingvarr]

Hey, I wonder did anybody try this one from LM Technologies yet?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lm-Technologies-Bluetooth-Watch-Classic/dp/B000WZAI8W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1215853162&sr=8-1

Apparantly its cheaper, and maybe less bulky too?

I wonder if its compatible with SE "serial profile" protocol, i think big chances it should be since its supporting SMS notifications that are not in the standard handsfree profile.

[moneytoo]

ful babu:
I'm taking a note.

Ingvarr:
According the comment on the Amazon product page it doesnt use the SE standards but it connects as headset/handsfree. I have the Bluetooth Vibrating Bracelet which should be very similar but it doesnt work with SMS neither.

[Ingvarr]

It defenitely displays SMS notifications (its in the manual), but for *some* (SE) handsets only.

Thats why I thought it must at least partially use SE protocol, as I know no other way to get SMS notifications thru in "standard" way - I dont recall anything about SMS in Handsfree/Headset BT profiles.

[pkchainsaw]

It defenitely displays SMS notifications (its in the manual), but for *some* (SE) handsets only.

Thats why I thought it must at least partially use SE protocol, as I know no other way to get SMS notifications thru in "standard" way - I dont recall anything about SMS in Handsfree/Headset BT profiles.

I have this LM watch. I haven't been able to get it to work with smartwatch yet. However, it sort of works with btwatch. If you pair WITHOUT using the hands free profile, it will vibrate when a call comes in (No CID though!), and then you can answer with your phone or bt headset without problems.

It's OK, but it does drain the battery fast. I'm thinking of getting an abacas watch from expansis for about $140 and having more functionality.

I'm using an Athena 7501 with factory rom.

[Ingvarr]

It's OK, but it does drain the battery fast. I'm thinking of getting an abacas watch from expansis for about $140 and having more functionality.

I'm using an Athena 7501 with factory rom.
Drain the battery on the PDA or on the watch itself?

And can you tell the dimensions of it? The Abacus/SE ones are awfully big (they look like ordinary watches but about 1.5 times the size).

[!SINGH!]

Hi.. What would it take to get this to work with the Bluetooth headset from Sony?

Same display... same functions... same manufacturer....just need to get it to accept pairing with it though the app..and then all should be same....right???

I'll beta it with pleasure...

The device is found as HBH-DS980 ....

thanks...

[calarfe]

same for me :)

[cell_crazy]

My dad bought the MBW-100. Definitely more elegant and classy (for the business type). It weighs more, because it has a metallic strap instead of a polyurethane one. The ONLY TWO TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES compared to the MBW-150 models, is that the MBW-100 doesn´t allow you to see the track name on the OLED display and that there is no "previous track" switch... source (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161392)

This Means no extra features will be usable because I use the "track name" for text output from Windows Mobile (so no text will be visible, only envelope when receiving message and caller name on incoming call).


Sorry if this has been answered in the past - but I was just wondering what extra features are not usable by the MBW-100? Can you be more specific, will I not be able to use SPB weather with the MBW-100, etc?

[miguel_acedo]

Hi, I have an Abacus watch and the Diamond 1.60F MiChY ROM with WM 6.1 and the Radio version 1.57, I have installed smartwatch and configured the watch but the battery on it drains very quick, it does not last for a day, is there a fix for it? Thank you

[gtm55]

Hi, I have an Abacus watch and the Diamond 1.60F MiChY ROM with WM 6.1 and the Radio version 1.57, I have installed smartwatch and configured the watch but the battery on it drains very quick, it does not last for a day, is there a fix for it? Thank you

I understand that you have an Athena, if that, than you should change the rom, the bluetooth stack is the cause for the draining, you can use ap4, ap5, taxist rom: 5-7 day battery life for your watch

[Nightcookie]

Moneytoo,

I'm just trying to pair with an LG KS20. I put my watch into pairing mode and start "Discover and pair".
Now, as soon as I do that, the program will say "Cannot find any unpaired BT watch."

I've master-reset my watch about three times not, so it should be unpaired for sure.
I have a feeling that the app doesn't really search for watches because the "Cannot find"-message comes up pretty much immediately after I hit "Discover and pair"... Could it be the non-MS bluetooth stack? Someone reported that your great program worked just fine with Broadcom/Widcom stack in Motorola's Q9.


Any ideas?

Many thanks,

N.

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie
The auto pairing feature works only with MS Stack. The main communications with the watch is using COM port so it's Stack independent. All you have to do is to pair the watch using the default Bluetooth manager. Then add new incoming/inbound COM port. If the selected port is not listed in sWM menu, edit the registry key manually (go to hklm\software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm, edit incomingport item). Then restart your device and try the connection. Yep, this works on Motorola. I dont have any access to LG so I cant try.

miguel_acedo
Probably some issue with BT Stack. Is original ROM ok?

cell_crazy
Yes, SPB weather will work. The menu control is crazy but it it will do.

harvsingh
Im not sure if the headset uses serialport connection. Headsets are usually connected using different services. But I could add a HBH-DS980 to the list of accepted devices so you could try. I will see.

[miguel_acedo]

I tried first with the original ROM and I have the same result that is why I try to use a different one, the ROM I am using right now works great except for that problem with the battery, the other ROMs that the people in the forum suggestme needs to change to SLP 3.5 but I am not shure about doing that.

So is there a chance to change only the bluetooth stack without changing all the ROM, or maybe a parameter at the register that I can modify?

Thank you

[Pernod99]

@Moneytoo


PLEASE program for Symbian60 3rd Devices/Software OS !!!!!

THX from ALL S60 3rd (Nokia, Samsung ....) User !!!

[Nightcookie]

Moneytoo,

thanks a lot for the quick reply! Sounded good, but ...

NightcookieAll you have to do is to pair the watch using the default Bluetooth manager.

... now I'm running into problems at this early stage. Bluetooth Manger can see the watch but says it's unable to connect because the watch doesn't provide any supported protocol. I tried connecting manually but have to choose between High Quality Audio, Headset, PIM Sync, ActiveSync, Send Files, Connect to Network, Connect to PAN, Exchange Business Card, or Set Up Keyboard. That's it, and none of these is able to connect to the MBW-150. There's a "Examine BT device for supported profiles" option, but that doesn't recognise any supported profile in the watch.
I think that's odd because I can see in the BT settings that Serial port connections should be supported ...

What do I do?

:confused:

[ZMDK]

Last week I also bought me a symbian powered device so I would like a Symbian client too.
I also have to say I liked your WM6 client very much.

(BTwatch broke down my watch when is crashed and let my screen burn in, now I can't see anything unless it's completely dark)

[nilmot]

EDIT: Nevermind.

[madbird]

hi after some weeks of using the new version (including a business trip), i can say that the problem with dropping the bt connection while a call is in progress is nearly gone for me, before it was 2 times a day, now it happens 1 time a week.

sometimes the bt stack seemes to crash anyhow (when not in a call), in that case i have the following ways to recover:

1. switching off/on the bt headset and the watch, helps in 90% of the time.
2. switching off/on the bt on the advantage, is helpfull if the headset reconnects but not the watch.
3. switching off/on the headset the watch and the phone, helps in 100% of all cases, but is the most work.

on the battery drain isue, i can say that it dosent matter if i get 3 or 30 'events' on the display of the watch, the watch is empty after a day. really seems to be an issue that the advantage btstack keeps the connection to the watch alive in a way that the powersaving functions of bt at the watch, wont become active.

hope this helped, greetings mad


*edit*: i think that the rest of the probs are from the btstack that the advantage uses in wm6.1., it seems to dislike sony products, a sony hbh-ds-220 bt headset (used alone without other bt devices like the mbw-150) makes the same crashes of the advantage btstack.

[JimSmith94]

I just returned from a month long business trip in Poland, where my Sprint Mogul didn't work for anything but an alarm clock. I installed the latest 1.0.2.0 and although I've only made a few phone calls, I have to say that I haven't experienced any BT headset dropouts at all, nor have I lost the MBW-150's BT connection while on the phone either. So far, I would say your "tiny little change" has made all the difference in the world! :)

I have never had any battery issues, and am still showing a full charge on my watch after two days of minimal use with BT on.

[JimSmith94]

Sorry to have to make this update. I use the same BT headset for the Cisco soft phone on my laptop, and noticed a lot of static during phone calls. Then I made a call with my PPC-6800 and noticed the same thing. I had missed it earlier, but the MBW-150 watch was losing and regaining its BT connection while this was going on.

For now, it looks like the best solution is if Moneytoo can add the functionality to turn off BT on the watch during phone calls. I'll still have to remember to do it manually while using the Cisco soft phone though.

[Nightcookie]

Moneytoo,

can you please please please advise how you managed to pair the watch with a device that uses the Widcom/Broadcomm stack (e.g. Motorola)?

I've read that you did, and have some ideas about that,
so you probably could give me my MBW-150 back! :)

Many many thanks,

N.

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2102327#post2102327

[Nightcookie]

Moneytoo,

thanks for the quick reply!

Nightcookie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2102327#post2102327

Yeah I know, I've read that, but the problem is that I cannot pair using BT Manager. Just like you said in post #901 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2100698&postcount=901):

The good news is I have access to Motorola Q9h so I can play with it from time to time. I dont know how's that happened but now I can pair the watch using BT Manager (it didnt work earlier). (But cannot assign COM port because the watch doesnt support SDP)
I will try to find some workaround for Widcomm (I got some ideas).

I seem to have the same issues that you encountered first. That's why I said a couple of posts up:

Bluetooth Manger can see the watch but says it's unable to connect because the watch doesn't provide any supported protocol."

I've read around a bit, and it seems the Bluetooth Manager does not connect because it sees no supported service. Like you said, MBW-150 does not send Service Discovery Protocol. As the watch isn't telling the phone that it supports serial profile, the phone doesn't know what to do with it and will not pair.

Any ideas? It would be so great if I could pair my phone and my watch, I'll be happy to try the workaround you provided for COM port setup.

Many thanks,

N.

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie
I had similar experience with some HP iPaq and I just gave up.
Can you replace the BT stack? I donk know much about it but I heard of some people that replaced their BT stack.
Maybe you could use some other software that has Widcom/Broadcomm BT capabilities to pair using it. (Just an idea)

[ken4000]

Hi
I have a Sony Ericsson G900 (Symbian OS). Is it posible to "convert" this great software to work on symbian?

Best regards
Kenneth

[tack]

I just had my MBW-150 Executive watch today after waiting 4 loooong days for delivery. I´ve been reading this thread a lot and smartWatchM v.1.0.2.0 has been succesfully installed on my HTC Touch (a.k.a. Elf, a.k.a. P3450). Just can´t wait to have my first real call etc.
Moneytoo, you´re great :) Thanks a lot.

[Karmarock]

About the issue of watch's battery dying in less than one day on Athena please refer to this post.

I think that now there are a bunch of good ROM that solve the issue also on WM6.1

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408380

[cell_crazy]

About the issue of watch's battery dying in less than one day on Athena please refer to this post.

I think that now there are a bunch of good ROM that solve the issue also on WM6.1

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408380

I am having huge watch battery drain issues the watch only holds a charge for 12-13 hours. After reading through this forum I understand that if I change "bluetooth stack" it will help improve battery life greatly. Not sure if I'm using the right terminology.

I currently have a HTC p4000 (HTC titan) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=770&view=1

I do have the lastest rom that HTC offers on their site. Could someone please help me fix battery drain issue. I have no idea what I have to do to change or install "stacks" or if I need to install a new rom. I am very new at this and I do not want to brick my phone.
Please help.

[madbird]

New version has just arrived - 1.0.1.0 (20080525).


- added weather support for SBSH PocketWeather
Finally. :D SBSH PocketWeather (http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=32). PPC/SP



hi i use pweather 2.0.6 3342 and it works well on the phone, but on the watch when the stop button is pressed the watch only display:
Today: 'the name of the selected town'
High:* Low:*

or on playbutton:

Tommorow: 'the name of the selected town'
High:* Low:*

so it reads the name of the town corectly but fails with the rest. is there somting i missed?.

another fine (and free) way to get the weather info was a script written by schettj (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1814195) that is written with (the also free and fine ;)) mortscript (http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=ms_overview&action=view&menu=29), it was written to set the weather for the s2u2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353008) programm. maybe it is possible to support it in smartwatch, for those who dont want to spend money for some simple weather info.

mad

[moneytoo]

Here's another update of smartWatchM, now in version 1.0.2.1. There's no major new functionality but there are some bug fixes and small enhancements (possibility to display battery % as a number on the main messaging info screen).

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madbird:
Maybe it's just new incompatible version of PocketWeather. I will test it and check out the script as well.

cell_crazy:
There usually is no problem with battery life (except some HTC Advantage ROMs) so I guess you could try a new ROM from cookers here at xda-devs.

Karmarock:
That's a good news.

ken4000:
SE watch doesnt work with SE phone? Nice. :D At least Symbian UIQ on M600 was ok. It's possible to run .NET Compact framework (1) on S60 but it's way to limited (probably no BT) and I have no knowledge of Symbian development.

[cell_crazy]

So Moneytoo you're saying it isn't a rom issue - so could I have a defective watch?

How long should the battery last for the MBW - mine is brand new but like I mentioned the battery only lasted less than 12 hours.

Not sure if it's normal when i charge it from dead battery it only takes 2 hours to fully charge it - is that normal for the MBW?

Can people let me know how long there battery lasts and how long it takes to charge - I need to know if I have a defective watch.

Thank you

[moneytoo]

cell_crazy:
Most probably it is caused by BT Stack/power management/software/registry settings (who knows) but it IS the ROM issue. Other ROMs may be ok so I recommend you to try other ROM or wait for other users responses. 99% it's the ROM problem, not defective watch.
2 hours charge and 3-14 days is the usual battery life.

[cell_crazy]

cell_crazy:
Most probably it is caused by BT Stack/power management/software/registry settings (who knows) but it IS the ROM issue. Other ROMs may be ok so I recommend you to try other ROM or wait for other users responses. 99% it's the ROM problem, not defective watch.
2 hours charge and 3-14 days is the usual battery life.

Thanks for the reply moneytoo,
It's good to hear you say that you think it's most likely the ROM - but I just want to rule out that the watch isn't defective because if it is I have to return it quickly.

I charged the watch completely and used it again for second day. It worked perfectly throughout the day - the battery display on the watch showed a full charge, but again on the 13th hour the watch vibrated and notified me it was disconnected, smartwatchM displayed "Error 002" and then the watch no longer had power in it. Even the analog watch no longer moved - because it no longer had power.

Several questions Can you please let me know what Error 002 is, would that cause the battery drain or are you pretty sure it's ROM?
Why would the watch display full battery power and then suddenly die - wouldn't it display battery drain
If it is the ROM why is it causing drain on watch but not the battery life on HTC seems fine

[shaileshashar]

I have been using this program since a long time now.
Every time I flash a new rom / buy a new device, I need to reconfigure everything and espcially troublesome is the com port setup part.
I hv seen pcfixitman's alternative - btWatch and it seems that developement is stopped, but his 'connection and setting up watch' part is very easy and does not require any com port settings.

Can anything be done for this ? Can we also take a backup of our menu setting so that it can be easily restored ?

[Karmarock]

Thanks for the reply moneytoo,
It's good to hear you say that you think it's most likely the ROM - but I just want to rule out that the watch isn't defective because if it is I have to return it quickly.

I charged the watch completely and used it again for second day. It worked perfectly throughout the day - the battery display on the watch showed a full charge, but again on the 13th hour the watch vibrated and notified me it was disconnected, smartwatchM displayed "Error 002" and then the watch no longer had power in it. Even the analog watch no longer moved - because it no longer had power.

Several questions Can you please let me know what Error 002 is, would that cause the battery drain or are you pretty sure it's ROM?
Why would the watch display full battery power and then suddenly die - wouldn't it display battery drain
If it is the ROM why is it causing drain on watch but not the battery life on HTC seems fine

Charge full your watch, disable bluetooth connection over it.
This way your watch should last from two to four weeks before the watch's arms stop. If it lasts less service it!
I would suggest starting to navigate your device's forum and flashing the latest ROMS ;)

[gtm55]

I have one problem with the latest version 1.0.2.1, when connected it constantly wake up my athena and drain power... i'm the only one with this kind of problem?
1.0.2.0 is working absolutely ok.

[cell_crazy]

ok well it's definetly not the watch, because when it's not connected to my HTC the battery does not drain immediately.

I am however getting error codes all over in smartwatch
Error 016
Error 022 (Multiple times)
Error 008
Error 017 (Multiple times)
Error 002

moneytoo is can you let me know what these errors are (is there somewhere that lists what the error codes are). Could these errors be causing battery drain?

[moneytoo]

cell_crazy:
Yes, it's not the watch but neither smartWatchM. This errors are only notifications (sms, calls, missed calls) that couldn't be send because the watch wasn't connected or the connection wasn't opened.
The battery drain is caused by your BT Stack / ROM / some setting - I dont know - If I knew, I would fix it (but it affects only a small number of devices).
To prove it, connect your paired watch to your device without running smartWatchM. The watch battery shoulld be drained in a similar time.


shaileshashar:
Making the connection similar to btWatch is one of my targets. I've tried but it's not that easy as handling COM ports. Anyway, using COM ports has one big advantage - it's BT Stack indepentend (only need is to pair the watch and create a port). If I learn how to do it, I will make it. :)
To backup the menu and other settings, just export registry keys from HKLM\Software\smartmadsoft\smartwatchm.


gtm55:
Are you sure it's caused by smartWatchM? This behaviour is usual caused by power management on devices such as Samsung Blackjack (I, II, III... this is the Samsung Backlight fix that turns of backlight but I'm looking for better solution) but HTC should be ok. Try pairing your devices again / deleting your setting (in registry, delete key mentioned above).


madbird:
Use the latest version of PocketWeahter 2.0.8.

[gtm55]

[QUOTE=moneytoo;2510627]gtm55:
Are you sure it's caused by smartWatchM? This behaviour is usual caused by power management on devices such as Samsung Blackjack (I, II, III... this is the Samsung Backlight fix that turns of backlight but I'm looking for better solution) but HTC should be ok. Try pairing your devices again / deleting your setting (in registry, delete key mentioned above).[QUOTE]

as i mentioned before: replacing v1.0.2.1 with v 1.0.2.0 and nothing else changed regarding the programs, settings or registry -the phone is working very well, as expected

[cell_crazy]

Ok so i've upgraded to a different ROM and Radio - now the watch doesn't even seem to connect.

I am able to find and pair, I register the port, restart when I start smartwatch again is has comes up with the standard - "Waiting for connection, press a button on the watch"

I hit the a button on the watch and nothing happens, any suggestions? Is this new ROM the problem?
At least with the old ROM I was able to connect the watch, now I'm getting nothing.

I have a p4000 (HTC Titan) and upgraded to DCD 3.2.5 ROM using Radio 3.42.30
I will try upgrading to radio 3.42.50 and let u know if problem still exists.
Does anybody use a HTC Titan and run smartwatch without problems, if so which ROM and Radio do you run?

[cell_crazy]

Yeah upgraded to Radio 3.43.50 and still having the same problem.

I'm able to discover and pair, but then watch immediately disconnects smartwatch says paired successfully. I register COM port and restart, but watch never connects afte that.

Please help

[moneytoo]

Have you tried all the COM ports (restart is required after port change)? Because some of them are often locked by the system and cannot be used.
If you see the press a button request, try turnin bt on your watch off and on.

[cell_crazy]

Thanks moneytoo!

Yes changed to Com port 0 and it seems to work like a charm now - thank you for the advice.

I'm hoping the battery drain no longer happens with the new ROM installed. Do you happen to know if different com ports may cause battery drain issue?

[bremair]

Hi moneytoo, I just got some time and play with my MBW-150. At the beginning you thought about a caller logo for private call where the number isn't transmitted. I found my old nol-logo for that but it still doesn't work. What should be the name of that file? unknown.nol? Do you think you will add it in the next version? It would be great.

[moneytoo]

as i mentioned before: replacing v1.0.2.1 with v 1.0.2.0 and nothing else changed regarding the programs, settings or registry -the phone is working very well, as expected

I have check all the new code since 1.0.2.0 and I wasn't able to find anything. Except the code, I updated a third party library so this may be the reason. Do you still experience this problem? If so, I will build new version with the old library for you to try.

Hi moneytoo, I just got some time and play with my MBW-150. At the beginning you thought about a caller logo for private call where the number isn't transmitted. I found my old nol-logo for that but it still doesn't work. What should be the name of that file? unknown.nol? Do you think you will add it in the next version? It would be great.

Yes, it's unknown.nol. There really is a bug that prevents displaying this logo when 2-lined cid is enabled. I have already fixed it. It will be in the next update. (But I will probably send you this version soon to make sure it's finally fixed correctly)

[gtm55]

I have check all the new code since 1.0.2.0 and I wasn't able to find anything. Except the code, I updated a third party library so this may be the reason. Do you still experience this problem? If so, I will build new version with the old library for you to try.


unfortunately i still have that problem...

Thank you very much!

[bremair]

Yes, it's unknown.nol. There really is a bug that prevents displaying this logo when 2-lined cid is enabled. I have already fixed it. It will be in the next update. (But I will probably send you this version soon to make sure it's finally fixed correctly)

Ok, no problem, would be great if it works.

[Nightcookie]

Ummm ... could it be that smartmadsoft.com is down / offline?
I've been trying to download the current cab or exe all day, but there's no response?

[moneytoo]

Yes, the web hosting is down (28 hours so far). Uptime only 84% in a month is really sad, I have to switch to a better hosting.

Edit: I have just added a mirror to the latest CAB in the first post.

[Nightcookie]

Yes, the web hosting is down (28 hours so far). Uptime only 84% in a month is really sad, I have to switch to a better hosting.

Thx nonetheless for the quick reply, moneytoo!

[zaki67]

I am trying to connect a Motorolla Q9 ,i installed the software and paired using Bluetooth manager and from bluetooth settings I found that the assigned port is 5 and assigned it in the SW software but still i reach press button on watch and nothing happens when I do

[moneytoo]

zaki67:
Is it Inbound COM port? By default, the port on Motorola Q5 is BTC5.

[zaki67]

zaki67:
Is it Inbound COM port? By default, the port on Motorola Q5 is BTC5.
yes it is it says BTC5

[wiaza100]

Now you can call directly from BT Watch

Without the use of mobile

Through the use of free software ( vjphonetools2 )

And linking them with ( Settings - Other - userfile Edit )

Can allocate 5 contact numbers

[chozilla]

Hello there,

i already have 2 registered ports for bluetooth inbound (com7) and outbound (com8) on my FSC T810... I am not realy sure if the BT stack is compatible with the application (but i think i read that the stack does not matter anywhere) and the watch. The about page on Bluetooth tells me that i have BT-PPC/PE Version 1.7.6 Build 0500 (c) Broadcom) on the device.

The software does not activate bluetooth when i activate it via the menu and the device search does not even start... I am getting to the point where i think, it might not be working with my device.
I tryed to make every setting like described in this thread but nothing worked.

can anyone provide me with a solution or at least some help.

best regards
chozilla

[moneytoo]

chozilla
The Bluetooth switching option works only with Microsoft BT stack.

The smartWatchM software cannot pair the watch. You have to pair the watch with your device using the default (Broadcom) BT manager. Have you done that? Have you tried restart after that?

Maybe you could try disabling outbound port or setting different com port. Still, there could be some problems but if you are able to pair the devices then it is usually ok.

[chozilla]

thank you for the answer.
I got it paired i will try to get everything else working.
I guess that was already the biggest problem :)
Best regards
chozilla

[Nightcookie]

chozilla,

could you post a step-by-step guide about how you managed to pair your device with the watch?

I've been trying desperately to pair a device with Broadcom stack (LG KS20) but always get an error message (from a service called "btwizardprofiles") that "no supported BT profile can be found". Moneytoo and me had come to the point where we thought pairing through a Broadcom stack was impossible :(

Screen01 below shows the BT devices my BT Manager can see. Note that it has recognised the proper service protocol for a headset, a computer or another mobile. I had some difficulty pairing the NavOne 3.0 GPS receiver, but in the end it recognised a serial connection. The only thing that it will not recognise is the MBW-150. Screen02 shows the error message I mentioned.

If you managed to pair a WM 6 Professional device with Broadcom stack, that would really be a ray of hope!

Much appreciated!

N.

[moneytoo]

Nightcookie:
I have just tested it on some HP iPAQ (WM 5) with Broadcom BT stack (version 1.7.1.9401). It has exactly the same interface as on your screenshots and gives the same error. Anyway, there seems to be two ways how to connect BT device.
So just start "Bluetooth Manager" and instead of clicking "New", select "Menu -> Paired Devices". Then click on the "Add" button, search for available devices, enter passkey and voila... :) The Serial Port is found automatically. There are activated both inbound/outbound com ports by default. COM4 is the inbound (Incoming) port on my device.
The connection basically works.

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I released new version today (1.0.2.2), mainly because some fixes. I was hoping I finaly resolved the Samsung backlight problem but there seems to be very ugly behaviour - if the "Samsung backlight fix" is enabled, everything works ok, except turning of screen during incoming call ringing and there is no way how to accept the call. So better dont enable this if you want to recieve incoming calls on your Samsung. I will look for a fix but this Samsung specific behaviour makes me really angry. :mad:

[cell_crazy]

Not sure if anyone on this forum can help me (but I'm hoping)
My watch is connect to my HTC and was working perfectly, it still connects but and is able to display the information - the problem I'm having is that the watch no longer vibrates whenever it receives information (calls, texts, out of range warning)
So unless i happen to be looking at my watch when someone calls, I'd miss the call cause it no longer vibrates.

I can't seem to find any information - but did I somehow disable vibration on my watch? and is there someway I can enable it again? or is the watch faulty?

[moneytoo]

cell_crazy:
Does the "vibrate" command work? There is an envelope displayed on the watch menu (2nd item out of 4) and this item can turn on/off part of notifications - but it has only affect on messages, not on calls.
Maybe you could even try hard reset the watch (press top right and bottom right button long time when syncing)...

[cell_crazy]

cell_crazy:
Does the "vibrate" command work? There is an envelope displayed on the watch menu (2nd item out of 4) and this item can turn on/off part of notifications - but it has only affect on messages, not on calls.
Maybe you could even try hard reset the watch (press top right and bottom right button long time when syncing)...

Yes Moneytoo the envelope on the menu is enabled. All the test commands in smartwatch send data to watch, but it does not vibrate. I have master reset the watch as well, still not vibration. Am I out of luck?

[rsolomon]

Has anyone tried this in conjunction with PhoneAlarm? I'm tempted to pick up an Abacus AU6001 watch (available for $70 or so locally) and use it with this application, but I *depend* on PhoneAlarm and I'm not sure I can return the watch if they don't play together well.

Thanks in advance!
Richard

[hardcore4ever]

Hi,

Where to buy these watches?

I'm from Portugal and i can't found any shop that selles these wonderful watches:(

I like the Fossil ones.

[cell_crazy]

Hmmmm...I went home and plugged in watch and now the vibrate seems to work, but when I unplugged it did not work. So not sure if it's a battery issue, I will fully charge and hope it works.

The thing is the watch displayed half charge remaining - so perhaps the vibrate needs full charge to work properly, that or my battery is displaying more power than it actually has.
Moneytoo would this be the cause?

[Nightcookie]

Nightcookie:
So just start "Bluetooth Manager" and instead of clicking "New", select "Menu -> Paired Devices". Then click on the "Add" button, search for available devices, enter passkey and voila...



Moneytoo,

I don't know if I should be overjoyed or deeply embarrassed. I simply didn't know that.
You're the man - IT WORKS! How great is that!! smartWatchMobile finally is back to my device, and I don't have to sell my watch any more!
So, thanks a thousand for this piece of advice!
:):D:):D

Maybe you want to add these instructions to your first post?
No guarantees for Broadcom stack, but at least you've managed to do it on an HP Ipaq WM5, and I can confirm for an LG KS20 WM6, supposedly both running Broadcom BT stacks. I've run through nearly all commands, and they seem to work. Will explore overall stability throughout the day now.

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!

N.

[Nightcookie]

Has anyone tried this in conjunction with PhoneAlarm? I'm tempted to pick up an Abacus AU6001 watch (available for $70 or so locally) and use it with this application, but I *depend* on PhoneAlarm and I'm not sure I can return the watch if they don't play together well.

Richard,

I've been using smartWatchMobile together with phoneAlarm on both my old and new device, and they coexist just fine. pA profiles still work nicely, and messages and alerts show both on phoneAlarm and on my watch. Neat.

Is the AU6001 the equivalent to the MBW-150, ie does it have buttons on both sides? If not, I'd recommend that you consider putting in a bit more money and get a MBW-150. It gives you so much more options with moneytoo's great application.

N.

[rsolomon]

Richard,

I've been using smartWatchMobile together with phoneAlarm on both my old and new device, and they coexist just fine. pA profiles still work nicely, and messages and alerts show both on phoneAlarm and on my watch. Neat.

Is the AU6001 the equivalent to the MBW-150, ie does it have buttons on both sides? If not, I'd recommend that you consider putting in a bit more money and get a MBW-150. It gives you so much more options with moneytoo's great application.

N.

Great to hear, thanks!

I think the AU6001 is the equivalent of the MBW-100?
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b141661.jpg

I thought the MBW-150 was closer to $300 US? That makes it over 4x the cost of the AU6001 - which is already more than I want to spend on a gizmo I figure I won't wear very often....

Agreed that it sounds like a much better implementation though!

Thanks again,
Richard

[Nightcookie]

Richard,

I think the AU6001 is the equivalent of the MBW-100?

That's what I thought, but in a quick google I didn't see any pictures showing the left side, where the extra buttons should be.

I thought the MBW-150 was closer to $300 US?

You're probably right there for the US. A MBW-150 Music goes for the equivalent of 150-200 USD in Euroland (and I have one lying around here), but with P&P that's probably more than you want to spend.

Having said that, I wear mine every day :)

Cheers,

N.

[manicmogulmaniac]

Sprint mogul user. Saw watch months ago. Dreamed of, but had no idea someone had done this. Any camera controls? Searched, but no luck. Much to read. Also prefer the big gaudy 100, but why is 150 recommended?

[epicurean]

Will the latest SWM work in the SAmsung Omnia?

[moneytoo]

Sprint mogul user. Saw watch months ago. Dreamed of, but had no idea someone had done this. Any camera controls? Searched, but no luck. Much to read. Also prefer the big gaudy 100, but why is 150 recommended?

I'm not sure what you mean by camera controls but basicaly it may be possible. SmartWatchM allows you to launch up to five pre-defined actions (links or applications) so if you can create link that will press the camera button, it may work.

Will the latest SWM work in the SAmsung Omnia?

Yes, it works with Omnia.

[moneytoo]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1827/citizenivirtel9.png

I feel tempted by this Citizen i-virt watch... :)
http://citizen.jp/ivirt/

[tregba]

is wmp the only player the mbw-150 controls natively? what about pocket player?

[wgary]

... Also prefer the big gaudy 100, but why is 150 recommended?More buttons on the 150, so you can control better.

[Pernod99]

Which A**hole deleted my comments??? :mad:


SIC! BT-Watch .... S60 Handys speak with Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Watches :D

SIC! BT-Watch (http://www.sic-software.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=69&sic=SIC%21+BT-Watch)

[petchiefa]

I'm trying to sync the MBW-100 with my MOTO Q. I have installed the proper .NET framework. When I try to launch the app, I get a native exception.

When I drill into the details it says:

ExceptionCode: 0x80000002
ExceptionAddress: 0x3f02844

PLEASE HELP