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knives of ice
1st February 2008, 01:19 AM
ok, we have a 4 page + thread going in the main Titan forum, but many upgraders don't read that part of the forum very often i think. it seems a great number of us can't get any audio using adaptors with the various gps roms installed. You CAN get audio with the standard usb headphones, but i have yet to see someone getting audio using an adaptor like the one here:

http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html

a number of us have this exact adaptor and it worked with previous roms, but there is no audio with the headphone jack with the gps roms. loading an audiopara file located in the dcd's 2.0 thread does not work either.

anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? thanks.

Dromio
1st February 2008, 02:49 PM
I've reverted to the official release rom because I couldn't stand the evdo cutouts, but I didn't have any issues with audio with my adapter (http://www.boxwave.com/products/stereoconverteradapter/stereo-converter-adapter-sprint-mogul_2749.htm).

I didn't try WMP though, I only used TCPMP. I don't see why that should make a difference, but maybe it did?

Moguledyouth
1st February 2008, 04:37 PM
I have my Mogul set up as both a GPS system and MP3 jukebox in my car. I have the "factory" tester rom installed and use a 3.5mm adapter in conjunction with a fm transmitter. The one issue that I had was that the 3.5mm headphone adapter had a right angle on it that when used in conjunction with the headphone and power dongle covered the power connector. A small screw driver and black electrical tape solved that by prying the pins holding the plastic housing around the connector I then just moved the wires so that it was a straight connector and then sealed it with electrical tape. I not only have access to gps and my mp3 collection, I can even make and answer phone calls.

fragilityv2
1st February 2008, 10:42 PM
I just went outside and plugged the phone into the car using the usb/audio adapter that came with the phone and a 3.5 adapter on top of that. Streamed some music in wmp of the internet then loaded up tomtom. Everything worked just fine.

knives of ice
1st February 2008, 11:07 PM
maybe the adaptor that came with the phone still works, i'm not sure....but many who have the adaptor linked above for some reason it no longer works. not sure why.

watson540
1st February 2008, 11:31 PM
yeah i never could find a 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor so i bought the one i have...the same one knivesofice is talking about..come to think of it i dont even think i could even find the adaptors that came with the phone because they were useless to me

blue6800user
8th February 2008, 10:35 PM
Anyone have a clue if No2chem or DCD are working on this issue yet? Great releases both of them, many props.

Or should we just be waiting for the next release?

Using No2chem .XX42 release. No love from my adapter.

I am using this adaptor
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Adapter-For-HTC-TyTN-II-Hermes-Artemis-P3300-S710_W0QQitemZ140204460682QQihZ004QQcategoryZ14419 QQcmdZViewItem

anyone know a fix yet?

dcd1182
8th February 2008, 10:37 PM
Anyone have a clue if No2chem or DCD are working on this issue yet? Great releases both of them, many props.

Or should we just be waiting for the next release?

Using No2chem .XX42 release. No love from my adapter.

I am using this adaptor
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Adapter-For-HTC-TyTN-II-Hermes-Artemis-P3300-S710_W0QQitemZ140204460682QQihZ004QQcategoryZ14419 QQcmdZViewItem

anyone know a fix yet?

it probably will require reverting to the old wavdev driver and old audiopara. that may require other driver rollbacks too. have not worked on it yet...

blue6800user
8th February 2008, 11:07 PM
Wow DcD thank you SO MUCH for the response.

I will wait patiently for the next release.

I know you have a zillion things to work on too.

If there is anything that we in this thread (or I with the adapter in my hands) can do to assist you in your work please let us/me know!

I just tried the 2.2.1 release and the adapter does not work with that either.

Oddly enough, when I hook the y adapter with the usb/2.5 prongs up to my xv6800 then use a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter it works! Odd, and that 2.5 to 3.5 adapter was from Radio shack.

Thanks again.


it probably will require reverting to the old wavdev driver and old audiopara. that may require other driver rollbacks too. have not worked on it yet...

shadowreader
9th February 2008, 01:15 AM
Guys the seidio adapter here (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=776) works if used in conjunction with the included HTC Y adapter that goes from the special mini USB on the mogul to a mini usb for charging and a mini usb for headset. If you plug this sedio adapter to the headset jack the external audio functions normally for music, system sounds etc. The seidio car charging/stereo cradle(at a hefty $119) works great for in car gps, stereo MP3 player etc. I will post some pics of my setup later. I'm very happy with the combo and I'm using the DCD 2.1 rom right now.

knives of ice
9th February 2008, 06:01 AM
Guys the seidio adapter here (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=776) works if used in conjunction with the included HTC Y adapter that goes from the special mini USB on the mogul to a mini usb for charging and a mini usb for headset. If you plug this sedio adapter to the headset jack the external audio functions normally for music, system sounds etc. The seidio car charging/stereo cradle(at a hefty $119) works great for in car gps, stereo MP3 player etc. I will post some pics of my setup later. I'm very happy with the combo and I'm using the DCD 2.1 rom right now.

that adaptor is so much more inconvenient compared to the one i linked above...the one linked above in my original post always worked before. it can still work if changes are made, hopefully dcd will be able to get us up and running again.

shadowreader
9th February 2008, 06:17 AM
I hear ya, but in the meantime this is a work around and it does work :) I prefer the car kit as I use the mogul for my gps, mp3 player etc in the car. I am going to post some pics in another thread of my gps/mp3 setup in my car. It works incredibly well and looks great too!!

ppclover
9th February 2008, 07:16 AM
For what it's worth I am running the "stock" 3.16 and my seidio 4700 mount works ok.

Jim

blue6800user
15th February 2008, 05:36 PM
anyone had any luck getting it to work yet? or know if the 2.2.6 dcd or the new no2chem roms fix this problem? Cant wait for a stable Gps rom to come out that supports the adapter. I will be all set after that!

blue6800user
15th February 2008, 05:43 PM
anyone had any luck getting it to work yet? or know if the 2.2.6 dcd or the new no2chem roms fix this problem? Cant wait for a stable Gps rom to come out that supports the adapter. I will be all set after that!

knives of ice
23rd February 2008, 08:37 AM
it would rule if someone could fix this. so far it still a problem for many of us.

indagroove
23rd February 2008, 08:49 AM
I have the same adapter that's linkes to in the op. It works for me. I'm running dcd's 2.0.0

But, here's the catch..

You gotta plug in the adapter in to the phone first with nothing attached to the adapter, then plug the headphones into the adapter after that. It works like a charm for me.

knives of ice
23rd February 2008, 07:27 PM
I have the same adapter that's linkes to in the op. It works for me. I'm running dcd's 2.0.0

But, here's the catch..

You gotta plug in the adapter in to the phone first with nothing attached to the adapter, then plug the headphones into the adapter after that. It works like a charm for me.

it may work in some applications like you said, but it doesn't in slingplayer thats for sure. i've tried everything.

madman34
23rd February 2008, 08:11 PM
it may work in some applications like you said, but it doesn't in slingplayer thats for sure. i've tried everything.

Well ok I am still messin with this but have some prelim results :

The adapter that comes with the Titan works perfectly in any combination of plug in/outs and programs except that the 2.5 to 3.5 mm adapters I have get only right channel if pushed in all the way so just pull out 1 mm and ok, but the whole thing is a pain.

The 'Box' looking 2 to 1 Y adapter works if you plug the adapter in firte and then the phones or line out, but apps like SelectRadio and SlingPlayer that release audio adapter during channel changes drop out 3 seconds after the sound stops playing exactly.

My straight usb to 3.5 mm is floating around the office somewhere so I can not test it yet.


Found my straight mini-usb to 3.5mm and it works perfectly with everything. The same headphones and line in cable and audio stuff, and I have 2 of the 'box' type adapters and they both mess up. Maybe a resistor difference or somthing electrically different in the 2 different types of adapters, I will figure it out and fix it and post what it is in this thread. Thanks DCD man you are the man;-)


There seems to be some differences in how the stock and the 'Box' do things, like the 'Box' mutes the built in speaker right away, where as the stock one toggles it when the 2.5 is pluged in or out. I need to find a mini-USB jack with all 5 (yes 5) pins and mess with my ohm meter because I think that the spare pin has a play in this switching and probably will come to play here.

dcd1182
23rd February 2008, 08:58 PM
does anyone know if it worked correctly in my 1.6.10 rom/kitchen

knives of ice
25th February 2008, 02:27 AM
does anyone know if it worked correctly in my 1.6.10 rom/kitchen

i'm almost positive it did. i was switching roms alot at had many of yours and never had any problems before the gps roms with this adaptor.

madman34
25th February 2008, 05:52 AM
does anyone know if it worked correctly in my 1.6.10 rom/kitchen

So far the sound works with the adapter that comes with it and the one that adapts the mini-usb to a 3.5mm but not with the block type that has a mini-usb and 3.5mm, so it seems to be somthing different in just this one adapter type. This one did work before but it seems to be the only one that stopped working. I have the adapters but am looking for some sockets and plugs to make a test jig and find out what is different in the adapters.

ghost_deini
29th February 2008, 12:32 AM
I have the same adapter that's linkes to in the op. It works for me. I'm running dcd's 2.0.0

But, here's the catch..

You gotta plug in the adapter in to the phone first with nothing attached to the adapter, then plug the headphones into the adapter after that. It works like a charm for me.

Hello! Long time lurker, lol i think this is actually my first post!

I'm running dcd 2.3.1, and this is my only issue with it. At first I overlooked this post, but then i started to play around alittle.

What I found was this does work with both HTC audio manager and wmp, but doesnt work if you plug the adaptor in and then start playing music. it also stops working if you press the power button, but not if you stop and start a song.

so it works if:
1) start playing music/video
2) plug in adaptor
3) plug in headphones

I thought this was important; I hope someone finds it useful.

knives of ice
4th March 2008, 08:03 AM
fuck, i wish this was a problem for me people so that it would be fixed. looks like i need to roll back my rom or buy a new adaptor

madman34
4th March 2008, 10:43 AM
fuck, i wish this was a problem for me people so that it would be fixed. looks like i need to roll back my rom or buy a new adaptor

I will fix it and tell everyone else how when I get the hardware to do it with. I am sure it is a resistor or somthing stupid as only the box type adapter seems to have this problem, my mini-usb pigtail and the stock one that came with it and a 2.5 to 3.5 also work good. I do not want to cut up the box type until i am sure of the fix as they are molded as opposed to just being in a box.

knives of ice
4th March 2008, 08:49 PM
I will fix it and tell everyone else how when I get the hardware to do it with. I am sure it is a resistor or somthing stupid as only the box type adapter seems to have this problem, my mini-usb pigtail and the stock one that came with it and a 2.5 to 3.5 also work good. I do not want to cut up the box type until i am sure of the fix as they are molded as opposed to just being in a box.


i would think its just a software/settings problem in the phone though, not any problem with the adaptor. the adaptor worked fine on pre gps roms. maybe i don't understand what you are trying to do though....

madman34
5th March 2008, 07:51 AM
i would think its just a software/settings problem in the phone though, not any problem with the adaptor. the adaptor worked fine on pre gps roms. maybe i don't understand what you are trying to do though....

Well I am just curious as to what the difference is between these adapters as I have all 3 and only the one has the problem, so the engineer in me wants to know why ??? I do notice that with all 3 adapters if you listen closely after 3 seconds of no audio you hear a little pop, after that the bad adapter looses the audio but the other 2 will pop back on when sound card is accessed again. Does that not make you wonder ?????

P.S. that pop was not present in stock ROM

sputnik
5th March 2008, 03:24 PM
Well I am just curious as to what the difference is between these adapters as I have all 3 and only the one has the problem, so the engineer in me wants to know why ??? I do notice that with all 3 adapters if you listen closely after 3 seconds of no audio you hear a little pop, after that the bad adapter looses the audio but the other 2 will pop back on when sound card is accessed again. Does that not make you wonder ?????

P.S. that pop was not present in stock ROM

I'm certainly looking forward to hearing your results. I'm used to the stock accessories being crappy (like the sleeve, etc.), but in this case they're the only ones that work properly - I think - does anyone have an aftermarket adapter that doesn't have this problem?

madman34
12th March 2008, 06:35 PM
I'm certainly looking forward to hearing your results. I'm used to the stock accessories being crappy (like the sleeve, etc.), but in this case they're the only ones that work properly - I think - does anyone have an aftermarket adapter that doesn't have this problem?

Yep, I updated my ROM and radio yesterday and still had the problem with the audio adapter issue, so I got out my tools and made my test fixture and found the problem and solution for ANY adapter that fits the socket. I will start a new thread titleed "FIXED THE AUDIO ADAPTER PROBLEM" and maybe the mod will make it a sticky, cause this really bugged me and I am sure you guys too.