Mugen Power 1800mAh

[origins81]

With new roms and gps placing demands on battery life, I opted to look for an alternative. Performance hacks can only work so much before your battery dies out when you have an 1100 or 1500Mah battery. I found this battery on ebay from a store and decided to go for it and here's my findings so far....
The model number I'm testing is HLI-P6800SL and will cost you USD48.55

Here's the link in case you wanna check it out:http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/
Ebay:http://search.ebay.ca/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=mugen+power+batteries&category0=

*FIRST IMPRESSIONS*
1) Battery is exactly same size as the OEM, had no problems with fitting. Initially thought its increased capacity it would be make it a tighter fit, wasn't the case, PERFECT FIT!!!
2) Turned on my PPC without any hitches or glitches:)
3) Free shipping, makes this even sweeter...
4) Juicing it up, will fill you in with a much more detailed comparative analysis, my girlfriend is a true test of battery power
5) After some extended use, battery is still cool, haven't experienced any over-heating some users claim

*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.

I followed the manufacturer's specifications about the initial 12 hour charge, also take into consideration that this test was conditioned, i.e. I dished out extra punishment, GPS ON for every trip, BT headset on for every call, backlight at 40% (which is pretty bright) and send/receive set at 5 minute intervals.
I consider myself a heavy-user during the day (less at night) with usage being split data and voice even. I receive approximately 40-60 emails a day (some with large attachments) and make out just about as many phone calls. So without much ado, here are my results...

Testing started 09:30 when I initially placed the battery 100% and ended 02:49 when it finally discharged 0% = 17hr 19m window. So in order to rate correctly and/or approximately I took the calculation values (credit hofo_mofo) of my 1500mah battery

Talk time (4.5 hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 4.5 hr
Current = 333 mA

Standby (230hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 230 hr
Current = 6.5mA
Run time based on my daily usage 09:30/100% -22:23/ 0% = 13hr 13min window

VERSUS 1800Mah

Talk Time = Rating / Current
Time = 1800 mAh / 333 mA
Time = 5.4hrs

Standby = Rating / Current
Time = 1800mAh / 6.5mA
Time = 277hrs

Theoretical 5.4 - 4.5/ 4.5 = 26% more power
vs.
Actual 17.19 - 13.13/ 13.13 = 31% increased capacity

I will be back to update my findings after 5 charge cycles and will note any increased or decreased performance, but for now very promising. If you use an 1100mah or any other type of battery, do the math and the numbers will pretty much tell you if it's a worthy purchase or not. I am not in any way recommending you purchase this battery, just sharing my findings. So until then....

Disclaimer this is by NO means a scientific test and results may not be typical

[sanjsrik]

How about a URL and a price?

[Cruisind00d]

Interested in your results...

[massdes07]

Interested in your results...

co-signing thisssssss.....................

[rdcolga]

Also very interested... My Mogul came with a 1500 battery so the 1650 is a waste of time... but 1800 may be worth it.

[sanjsrik]

Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.

Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.

[thakidc]

were do u get the 3200mah battery n how much did it set u back

[sanjsrik]

Seidio. I mentioned the NAME of the battery as in the name of the company. They MAKE the battery and sell it.

[jerason]

http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/pda_htc.html

3600
at the bottom.

[icevapor]

Very nice review of this battery. Most of the time people just say, "it lasted a day and a half instead of half a day," as if that is any real indication of how the battery performed. You were very specific on how you use your phone and gave an analysis of your results.

They may not be entirely accurate ( due to the every day changes in your usage between the 1800 battery and original batt. ), but I still want to give you props for a decent review.

Suggestion:
Test the 1800 vs Orig using a stopwatch program and gsplayer like here:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/vbarticles.php?do=article&articleid=422&title=mugen-extended-battery-for-the-ipaq-2200-series

That way you will get a more precise comparison.

But again, good review of the battery, you were above par on that one :).

[mogul67]

Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.

Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.



how much depth/thickness does that battery add? will it still fit in the stock leather holster?

[sanjsrik]

It added a lot of thickness to the phone exact number I'd check the Seidio site, and no, it won't fit the stock case any more

[myenhdl]

i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.

so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?

[origins81]

i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.

so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?

Its actually quite accurate, it doesn't hang like my oem battery. I thought it was somewhat the same after the first time when it hung around 10% for more than an hour or so, then it dropped to 5%. I think when the power is that low, it drops in multiples of 5... just a thought.
Will confirm/disprove when my battery is low, come to think of it I've never seen my original battery at 8% either

[bitslizer]

*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.


That's not Li-Ion that's for the old Nickel_MH or cadium batteries

you should never completely discharge Li-ion battery as that will damage them a bit. In fact there's people arguing you should keep your Li-ion battery as high a charge as often as possible.

[jdlnmia]

I ordered the Mugen HLI-6800SL 1800mAh standard-sized battery from www.lionbattery.com last week and got it this past Saturday. I put it in my Mogul and proceeded to charge it as per the directions (i.e. in the phone, not on a cradle, with the OEM AC adaptor). After 12 hours, I tried powering up the phone but nothing happens. Furthermore, once I tried plugging in the AC adapter into the Mogul with the battery installed, I get a blinking red LED light.

I emailed lionbattery.com about a replacement. Is this anything I can fix?

Thanks!

[origins81]

symptoms of a discharged battery or a battery about to discharge (end of life cycle). Best action plan at this point is to return it, here's hoping you kept the original receipt, keep me posted how it goes...

So far haven't had any problems, still outperforming my original battery. Will be back to finish my review of the battery in the next 2-3 days

[sanjsrik]

What I'd like to know is who makes hard cases for these? I have a mogul and no one makes a hard case for the sliding keyboard to be functional as well. What i mean is for an extended battery for the mogul and a hard case like the seidio one (thanks seidio for dropping the ball completely on this one).

[morganlowe]

I bought that 1800MaH battery today. Also bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Black-Aluminum-Case-for-SPRINT-MOGUL-XV6800_W0QQitemZ330216366160QQihZ014QQcategoryZ150 36QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

I had a case like that for my Axim, it was awesome. I really dont care that you cant use the touchscreen or keyboard without opening it, I need something rugged and with a high enough ridge buttons dont get pressed. Poor phone rides around in the center console of a Jeep all day long.


I'll post pictures and a little review once I get the items. I also have a good 2400 Mah battery and door I recently got, if anyone wants it I'll ship it in the US for $20. It's 4mm too thick, comes with back door.

[gadzuk]

Still impressed? The battery is currently out of stock at LionBattery.com

[origins81]

A little bit overdue but when time is a factor it’s hard to give a detailed result. Judging from the amount of PMs I've received, some positive, some negative I feel I have to stress, battery life is RELATIVE to your usage. Note the disclaimer, results are neither scientific nor are they typical, just structured and simulated.
Comparing preliminary and final results one thing I need to note is that there has been a slight decrease in performance but also in all fairness there has also been an increase in my usage, more time has been spent writing emails, flashing ROMs, resetting and trying out various GPS programs.

The positive is that the battery still outlasts my OEM by a solid 2 or more hours. On one occasion I had to revert back to my OEM battery and was astounded by how it quickly discharged after only 5 hours of use. However, I still carry a travel charger with me (force of habit);)
The battery NEVER overheats, gets warm but that's common with every battery and the biggest PLUS for me is the form factor, it doesn't add any thickness or bulkiness or unnecessary weight to an already thick phone.

The biggest gripe I found with this battery is the charge time. If you're on-the-fly a quick charge doesn't exist. It’s such a power hog that it doesn't fully charge from discharge for about 6 hours, sometimes more. The explanation being it has more cells to charge yet then again the power retention makes up for it. Good battery though as the pros outnumber the cons

[AFH]

Used one for a week, and subjective impression is that it lasts 40-50% longer than my OEM; again subjective, my OEM was at about 30% after a day of use, MUGEN is over 50% after two days (including on overnight on standby). Awesome performance...

Doc H.

[LycanNyc]

http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/pda_htc.html



Looks good 1800mAH no added size

[Hamidxa]

Originally Posted by origins81

*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.


That's not Li-Ion that's for the old Nickel_MH or cadium batteries

you should never completely discharge Li-ion battery as that will damage them a bit. In fact there's people arguing you should keep your Li-ion battery as high a charge as often as possible.

Exactly, Li-ion does not require charge/discharge cycles akin to NiMH batteries.