HTC Performance cab??

[iceman4357]

I searched for it and cant find it. I also looked at duttys cabs and saw nothing in there. Anyone know where this cab is??

[neva dinova]

i havent tried this yey but here it is

[iceman4357]

Thanks!! Where did you get it?!

[neva dinova]

Thanks!! Where did you get it?!

i found it a few months ago in one of the kaiser overclock threads

[wisniak]

Can you post the link to the original thread?

Thanks.

[Michaelr219]

it is from another forum site... i cant remember the name. LCS just implented this into his new rom. I have it installed on the new sleuth wm6.1 rom and i personally cant see a difference. not only that, but... I ran a benchmark today and also saw no difference. this cab is about as helpful as the htc_d3dm.dll

its designed for a different processor... all in all, its a placebo. unless im somehow not activating it right. but idk, try it out for yourself... it doesnt harm the device and is pretty self explanatory how to activate it as far i know...

hope that helps

[wisniak]

I searched for this cab in the forums but couldn't find it (even using the google search option).

If this is some overclocking function, then I won't try it.

[lildogg]

laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014

[_Alex_]

laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014


His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.

If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.

[Michaelr219]

His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.

If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.

glad to hear that im not crazy, i can take my flame proof jacket off now lol

[ceevee369]

I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?

[_Alex_]

I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?

If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...

[ceevee369]

If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...


Thanks for the advise. I have other more important things to do. getting us all better video drivers for example :p
So, high performance Cab goes down the drain right now

[cuboosh]

one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff

[_Alex_]

one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff

Custel's mobile crack is the same as using KaiserTweak and changing the three cache settings.

The name 'mobile crack' is easier to remember than 'file system cache', 'file system filter cache' and 'gdi/font cache'. :P

[Laurentius26]

Hi _Alex_,

Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!

Cheers,

Leo ;)

His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.

If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.

[_Alex_]

Hi _Alex_,

Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!

Cheers,

Leo ;)

And you can read another 191 posts about how the Apache folks at PPCGeeks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11573&page=11) argued over how it improved the speed of their devices too. My favorite quote is:


not mesurable via cpu tests, or wall clocks. Just oozes "feeling" mojo into your head. Works for me. 624 is too much mojo for me though, I really only am comfortable feeling like its 520... (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=132516&postcount=107)

[Laurentius26]

Hi _Alex_

I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.

Regards,

Leo :cool:

[_Alex_]

Hi _Alex_

I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.

Regards,

Leo :cool:

It's not an improvement though.

Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.

So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.

[Laurentius26]

Ok... that's a good point!
In my next release I will remove it.

I'm only human haha...

Thank you ;)

It's not an improvement though.

Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.

So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.

[_Alex_]

Ok... that's a good point!
In my next release I will remove it.

I'm only human haha...

Thank you ;)

No problem, nothing personal either... Just didn't want this to get out of hand and have everyone installing it when it doesn't do much at all. :)

[Laurentius26]

Ok,

I removed the benchmarks because they are of no use!

[kokiri]

works great for me !! It says "maximize" speed to 520Mhz... I guess this is not hard overclocking but just pushing the CPU a bit more during intense calculating... Ex: Loading HTC Album or to browse your /WINDOWS folder seems 2x faster with this cab. :)

[GSLEON3]

works great for me !! It says "maximize" speed to 520Mhz... I guess this is not hard overclocking but just pushing the CPU a bit more during intense calculating... Ex: Loading HTC Album or to browse your /WINDOWS folder seems 2x faster with this cab. :)


don't mean to burst your bubble pal, but you obvioiusly have little experience with CE & registry based apps. The only way to increase processor speed is through a frequency to power ratio adjustment. Take a look at the registry seetings created by this app. Then take a look at what's running when enabling the "Overclock" with a good process & thread viewer. (Hint: nothing changes) Then do some performance stress testing & benchmarking.

The effect you are seeing is nothing more than a placaebo effect. (fast shoes, sugar pill) BTW, another little tid bit, Set the "Overclock" to 520mHz. Then go into the registry setting that it controls (misc). You will see that the "Overclock" registry key is sett to "0" or off, just like when it's disabled. :eek:

[_Alex_]

My favorite quote is still:


not mesurable via cpu tests, or wall clocks. Just oozes "feeling" mojo into your head. Works for me. 624 is too much mojo for me though, I really only am comfortable feeling like its 520... (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=132516&postcount=107)Hey, why stop at 520Mhz for a placebo effect when it feels that much FASTER when it's a placebo at 624Mhz?!?!??!

:D :D :D

[terzer]

i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.

[XtreMe_G]

i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.

really? in that case i think jocky can stop working on overclocking and we can just all use the htc performance and overclock our devices

[GSLEON3]

i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.


Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.

[_Alex_]

Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.

FYI, I don't think terzer read this thread before posting. I moved his post & Xtreme_G's from Jocky's thread to keep it clutter free. :D

[RizwanKhan]

Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.

confirmed :)

now i have figures crossed and hope jocky is successful in his atempts :D (i have faith as he has done some very "thought-impossible-but-made-possible" kind of work).

[meanvulcan]

I find that my Kaiser really speeds up if I stand on the sunny side of the street or outside on a clear starry night with a full moon. And when I use it while having chili for lunch... forget about it, it flies!


;) Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. It's like when there is a medical study with the three groups of subjects -- one with real pills, one with sugar pills, one with no pills. No pills shows 10% recovery, sugar pill shows 35% recovery, pills show 40% recovery. It doesn't mean the pills are just as ineffective as placebo, it means the placebo effect is almost as good as the pills. At the end of the day, who cares why you feel great, as long as you do :P

[grungysquash]

I find that my Kaiser really speeds up if I stand on the sunny side of the street or outside on a clear starry night with a full moon. And when I use it while having chili for lunch... forget about it, it flies!


;) Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. It's like when there is a medical study with the three groups of subjects -- one with real pills, one with sugar pills, one with no pills. No pills shows 10% recovery, sugar pill shows 35% recovery, pills show 40% recovery. It doesn't mean the pills are just as ineffective as placebo, it means the placebo effect is almost as good as the pills. At the end of the day, who cares why you feel great, as long as you do :P

:D:D:D


Still laughing.......

[heatd1]

updated 6.1 utstarrcom
maybe its was the clear intoxicating fluid but I installed the HTC PERFORMANCE CAB and som1 please splain to me why my device is really runnin faster....
each process seems to initiate slowly like nowmal then it just zips to where I need it
maybe I should up the mojo factor and go to the higher setting

[tronnixx]

Ok guys - I have read dozens of posts on this HTC Performance utility whether it works or not so here you go:

HTC Performance .cab:

The PXA270 Proccessor has 4 clock steps 312-416-520-624 , any of the speeds in this range are not considered over or unclocking. These processors are designed to operate at any of these frequencies which is controlled by the device.

Now, on the HTC Performance utility you will notice if you enable dynamic stepping with 520Mhz selected, there should not be a speed increase while operating on the XV6700, you will also notice as pointed out by someone else if you look in the registry that under the keys HTC > HTC_MISC you will see "EnableMonitoring" set to 1, and "EnableOverClocking" set to 0. This is because the HTC performance was designed for a PXA270-based phone that has a standard speed of up to 512, so in essence it does not do anything, especially on the XV6700 with the default clock of 416Mhz. HOWEVER, When the HTC Performance Utility is set to dynamic stepping with the 624 option selected, the reg key "EnableOverClocking" is now set to 1. Therefore, the 624Mhz option does actually overclock the system but it may not ever reach the 624Mhz, but rather the 624Mhz option allows the system to roam over 416Mhz as needed. Whereas with the 520Mhz option, on the XV6700 this option is just for the system to cap at it's already set default of 416Mhz. Or, on other phones it may be 520Mhz. It would of been nice if the HTC Performance utility show the actual max/current values but the utility was designed for another HTC phone model at 520Mhz.

Bottom line: The 520Mhz option does nothing more then the phone already does capping out at 416Mhz on the XV6700 - and The Good News, the utility does actually speed it up, but ONLY WHEN SET TO THE 624Mhz option (It enables the system to go up to 624Mhz as needed)

Even though this utility does step it up (when set at 624Mhz), I am not too impressed by their stepping alghorithm. So, here is what I did to optimize battery life and peak performance:

Using a program such as Power Hack Master:

1) Stick to the PXA27X's core clock speeds: 312-416-520-624
2) Enable Scaling between above speeeds. You can use the default scaling or I use 20%-40%-80% Ratio (Under 20% decrease speed, above 40% increase, above 80% go to fastest (624Mhz).
3) In PHM (I dont know about XCpuScaler) you can force application specific speeds. So for Java, Internet Explorer or any other application where you want full speed you can set it so when you launch the program it automatically overides scaling and forces the speed you choose.

I attached Pocket Hack Master (the latest WM6 version)

Also: For those of you with a HTC Touch, or any other XScale, TI OMAP or Samsung ARM this utility (Pocket Hack Master)
will also work. It brings the TI OMAP in the HTC Touch from 201Mhz to 276Mhz safely!