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iceman4357
08-02-2008, 05:42 AM
I searched for it and cant find it. I also looked at duttys cabs and saw nothing in there. Anyone know where this cab is??
neva dinova
08-02-2008, 05:48 AM
i havent tried this yey but here it is
iceman4357
08-02-2008, 05:53 AM
Thanks!! Where did you get it?!
neva dinova
08-02-2008, 05:57 AM
Thanks!! Where did you get it?!
i found it a few months ago in one of the kaiser overclock threads
wisniak
08-02-2008, 06:51 AM
Can you post the link to the original thread?
Thanks.
Michaelr219
08-02-2008, 07:08 AM
it is from another forum site... i cant remember the name. LCS just implented this into his new rom. I have it installed on the new sleuth wm6.1 rom and i personally cant see a difference. not only that, but... I ran a benchmark today and also saw no difference. this cab is about as helpful as the htc_d3dm.dll
its designed for a different processor... all in all, its a placebo. unless im somehow not activating it right. but idk, try it out for yourself... it doesnt harm the device and is pretty self explanatory how to activate it as far i know...
hope that helps
wisniak
08-02-2008, 07:24 AM
I searched for this cab in the forums but couldn't find it (even using the google search option).
If this is some overclocking function, then I won't try it.
lildogg
08-02-2008, 07:36 AM
laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 08:02 AM
laurentius has the benchmarks with this activated at 520 mhz. it does make a bit of difference. here is the link and the benchmarks are in the 2nd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
Michaelr219
08-02-2008, 08:22 AM
His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
glad to hear that im not crazy, i can take my flame proof jacket off now lol
ceevee369
08-02-2008, 08:30 AM
I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 08:35 AM
I guess this has not been run on a Stock rom?
Any chance it could perfrom better? Was it only CPU set at 520 vs 400 mhZ?
If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...
ceevee369
08-02-2008, 08:48 AM
If you have nothing better to do, you are welcome to try. It won't make a bit of difference if its run on WM6, WM6.1 or WM7.0, shipped or cooked. HTC performance doesn't work on Kaisers (or Apache, or a bunch of other devices too)...
Thanks for the advise. I have other more important things to do. getting us all better video drivers for example :p
So, high performance Cab goes down the drain right now
cuboosh
08-02-2008, 09:26 AM
one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 09:44 AM
one thing u could do is install custel's mobile crack file.. it really speeds slueth's 6.1 build up...like faster then dutty stuff
Custel's mobile crack is the same as using KaiserTweak and changing the three cache settings.
The name 'mobile crack' is easier to remember than 'file system cache', 'file system filter cache' and 'gdi/font cache'. :P
Laurentius26
08-02-2008, 11:16 AM
Hi _Alex_,
Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!
Cheers,
Leo ;)
His benchmarks prove there is nothing special about this, as there is less than 2% difference on all benchmarks which can be attributed to statistical margin of error.
If you don't believe in margin of error, then his benchmarks tell you that HTC performance makes things WORSE! The numbers below were extracted from his thread, with the before on the left, after on the right, and the bolded stuff being the loser.
242.1398 vs 241.7512
5.479 vs 5.477
494 vs 490
736 vs 728
11614.37 vs 11770.11
12880.50 vs 13044.59
603.65 vs 601.82
9337.39 vs 9266.97
1505 vs 806
2573 vs 2596
2561 vs 5884 (lower is better)Out of 11 tests, 8 of those tests scored higher WITHOUT HTC Performance enabled.
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 11:29 AM
Hi _Alex_,
Maybe you're right but I do notice a nice speed improvement when activated!
Cheers,
Leo ;)
And you can read another 191 posts about how the Apache folks at PPCGeeks (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11573&page=11) argued over how it improved the speed of their devices too. My favorite quote is:
not mesurable via cpu tests, or wall clocks. Just oozes "feeling" mojo into your head. Works for me. 624 is too much mojo for me though, I really only am comfortable feeling like its 520... (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=132516&postcount=107)
Laurentius26
08-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Hi _Alex_
I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.
Regards,
Leo :cool:
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 11:55 AM
Hi _Alex_
I did both Benchmarks after a softreset and same situation on both times!
For me every improvement is an improvement, even if it's for you 'just a 2%'.
Regards,
Leo :cool:
It's not an improvement though.
Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.
So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.
Laurentius26
08-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Ok... that's a good point!
In my next release I will remove it.
I'm only human haha...
Thank you ;)
It's not an improvement though.
Like I said, if you don't believe in the margin of error of 2% and look at the raw numbers, 8 out of 11 tests show that it was -2%, which means only the remaining 3 out of 11 was +2%.
So you're willing to sacrifice 16% loss in other areas for 6% gain in others? That's a -10% result.
_Alex_
08-02-2008, 12:04 PM
Ok... that's a good point!
In my next release I will remove it.
I'm only human haha...
Thank you ;)
No problem, nothing personal either... Just didn't want this to get out of hand and have everyone installing it when it doesn't do much at all. :)
Laurentius26
08-02-2008, 12:11 PM
Ok,
I removed the benchmarks because they are of no use!
kokiri
02-03-2008, 01:10 PM
works great for me !! It says "maximize" speed to 520Mhz... I guess this is not hard overclocking but just pushing the CPU a bit more during intense calculating... Ex: Loading HTC Album or to browse your /WINDOWS folder seems 2x faster with this cab. :)
GSLEON3
03-03-2008, 07:23 AM
works great for me !! It says "maximize" speed to 520Mhz... I guess this is not hard overclocking but just pushing the CPU a bit more during intense calculating... Ex: Loading HTC Album or to browse your /WINDOWS folder seems 2x faster with this cab. :)
don't mean to burst your bubble pal, but you obvioiusly have little experience with CE & registry based apps. The only way to increase processor speed is through a frequency to power ratio adjustment. Take a look at the registry seetings created by this app. Then take a look at what's running when enabling the "Overclock" with a good process & thread viewer. (Hint: nothing changes) Then do some performance stress testing & benchmarking.
The effect you are seeing is nothing more than a placaebo effect. (fast shoes, sugar pill) BTW, another little tid bit, Set the "Overclock" to 520mHz. Then go into the registry setting that it controls (misc). You will see that the "Overclock" registry key is sett to "0" or off, just like when it's disabled. :eek:
_Alex_
03-03-2008, 08:26 AM
My favorite quote is still:
not mesurable via cpu tests, or wall clocks. Just oozes "feeling" mojo into your head. Works for me. 624 is too much mojo for me though, I really only am comfortable feeling like its 520... (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=132516&postcount=107)Hey, why stop at 520Mhz for a placebo effect when it feels that much FASTER when it's a placebo at 624Mhz?!?!??!
:D :D :D
terzer
28-05-2008, 07:32 AM
i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.
XtreMe_G
28-05-2008, 07:43 AM
i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.
really? in that case i think jocky can stop working on overclocking and we can just all use the htc performance and overclock our devices
GSLEON3
28-05-2008, 08:51 PM
i'm running for 1week now on htc performance on 624mhz and i noticed a great performance improvement, especially in the menus, refreshing speed and video performance. still, the battery life is a bit shorter and when the device is hevaly used it becomes hot.
Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.
_Alex_
28-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.
FYI, I don't think terzer read this thread before posting. I moved his post & Xtreme_G's from Jocky's thread to keep it clutter free. :D
thesire
28-05-2008, 09:12 PM
Why don't you disassemble the exe & see exactly what it does? Ummm..Nothing.
confirmed :)
now i have figures crossed and hope jocky is successful in his atempts :D (i have faith as he has done some very "thought-impossible-but-made-possible" kind of work).
meanvulcan
28-05-2008, 09:33 PM
I find that my Kaiser really speeds up if I stand on the sunny side of the street or outside on a clear starry night with a full moon. And when I use it while having chili for lunch... forget about it, it flies!
;) Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. It's like when there is a medical study with the three groups of subjects -- one with real pills, one with sugar pills, one with no pills. No pills shows 10% recovery, sugar pill shows 35% recovery, pills show 40% recovery. It doesn't mean the pills are just as ineffective as placebo, it means the placebo effect is almost as good as the pills. At the end of the day, who cares why you feel great, as long as you do :P
grungysquash
29-05-2008, 06:10 AM
I find that my Kaiser really speeds up if I stand on the sunny side of the street or outside on a clear starry night with a full moon. And when I use it while having chili for lunch... forget about it, it flies!
;) Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. It's like when there is a medical study with the three groups of subjects -- one with real pills, one with sugar pills, one with no pills. No pills shows 10% recovery, sugar pill shows 35% recovery, pills show 40% recovery. It doesn't mean the pills are just as ineffective as placebo, it means the placebo effect is almost as good as the pills. At the end of the day, who cares why you feel great, as long as you do :P
:D:D:D
Still laughing.......
heatd1
04-11-2008, 08:31 AM
updated 6.1 utstarrcom
maybe its was the clear intoxicating fluid but I installed the HTC PERFORMANCE CAB and som1 please splain to me why my device is really runnin faster....
each process seems to initiate slowly like nowmal then it just zips to where I need it
maybe I should up the mojo factor and go to the higher setting
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