Poor Battery Life, System Crashes and Battery Cases

[McDoPDA]

Does anyone find a nice case for the Excalibur ?

[.PoNeH]

I have searched all over the net and kiosks in nearby shopping mall. None yet!

Well, you'll find the occasional case, but it isn't customized for the Dash. They're basically more universal and, therefore, pointless.

Shouldn't be too long before they come out though.

[unlockMe]

I'm using the one that came with my QTEK S100 to hold the Excalibur.
fits well and allows me to carry it safely around.

[chaznet]

Almost :)

http://www.fortte.com/scr/showcategory3.php/122

[am-imate]

I just bought the T-Mobile Dash case from a T-Mobile store. It's quite good quality, only problem is that you have to take the phone out of the case to use it.

[DanITman]

Just search for a Q case or a Blackberry case. Either of these should be sufficient.

[joshstte]

Didn't you get one w/the dash? Mine came w/it, I like it. Hmm..

[jameskk]

also, Mobile Planet has the original HTC S620 case for $16 online (same as the Tmobile Dash case). I ordered one and it is scheduled for delivery next week.

[chaznet]

I think everyone got theirs with the Dash, and no one is looking for the same one, or one like it. We're all wanting one that you can leave it in while you use it -- something that'll protect it if it drops -- but -- thanks for your input :)

[sergiopi]

I think everyone got theirs with the Dash, and no one is looking for the same one, or one like it. We're all wanting one that you can leave it in while you use it -- something that'll protect it if it drops -- but -- thanks for your input :)

http://www.covertecstore.com/search/fiche.asp?ref_produit=sx179-02&menu=smart&ref_machine=HTCS620

THIS is the case? Available soon, but if you have a look to the TREO case... this seem a copy in different size and Treo looks great

[chaznet]

Hopefully that's just the first of many. To be honest, it doesn't look all that 'customized'. Personally, I'm wanting a snug-fitting leather case >without< a flip cover, or any plastic over the screen. The link you provided is a nice one though, just not as practical a case as some other styles.

http://www.covertecstore.com/search/fiche.asp?ref_produit=sx179-02&menu=smart&ref_machine=HTCS620

THIS is the case? Available soon, but if you have a look to the TREO case... this seem a copy in different size and Treo looks great

[sergiopi]

I agree, some other case are more practical, but I need they MUST to be also protective :-)

[chaznet]

Thin leather around the Dash, with a screen protector decal...

[nomad33fw]

I just upgraded from an HP6315, had it for three years with a case from this company http://www.cases.com/s620_excalibur.htm I can tell you it was the best $39 I spent, protected my phone repeatedly.

[4mynikka]

Get the Nokia CP-111 Case, it's the one for the Nokia E61 made by Nokia, it actually fits the phone very well. It's the one I've been using.

[.PoNeH]

Indeed, a custom-fit case for the Dash was released. Check it out at here (http://www.dashusers.com).

[spoofboy7]

Large case logic pocket works for me.
http://www.caselogic.com/pockets_trade_150_large/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=78909
Cheap and slim.

The medium one might work too?

[fire00]

Looks sexy, but I wonder where to buy in Europe ??

[SecureGSM]

I thought that some of you guys will be interested to know. I have sent enquiry to Vaja regarding the HTC Excalibur case and this is what I have received:

Hi SecureGSM,
For the time being we have not determined whether a case for this device will be developed or not.
In case it is developed we will contact you via email to let you know of such release.
We appreciate your interest in our products. Thanks!

Kind regards,

__________________
Ramiro Ventura
Customer Care Department
xxxxxxxxxx@vajacases.com
www.vajacases.com
www.vajachoice.com

[nabeelnasirali]

I purchased a Jet Black Silicone case for T-Mobile Dash. It looks great and is much better than the case T-Mobile has. I bought it from eBay for $10 including shipping and handling.
I have also purchased transparent Silicone case, but it looks ugly, I wish I had never purchased transparent one.

[eric0668]

anyone know of a really cool case sporty horizontal. How about the Incipio. anyone seen it. it looks nice. I hope it is not cheap? It is inexpensive so that is why I ask.

I mean there are nice brands out there like Vaja, Krusell, Fortte but I want something casual and fun. and I want to expose the phone when I take it out. don't want anymore cabriolet types like i had for my bb 8700

I think the stitching showing makes this one sporty

Then I was looking at these, they look sporty sure,...but too funky. Or have you seen it and it they are ok? which one?
http://www.igonemobile.com/products/model/HTC_T-Mobile_Dash_accessories.html

anyone seen this one
http://www.cases.com/tmobile_dash.htm

thank you
eric

[bkeaver]

Just my preference, this is the case I got for mine. It fits real good and protects the phone real good from the elements.
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-HTC-Excalibur-Dash-S620-LAMBSKIN-LEATHER-CASE_W0QQitemZ200057578009QQihZ010QQcategoryZ15036 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[SecureGSM]

Just my preference :)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LEATHER-CELL-PHONE-PDA-CASE-FOR-HTC-T-MOBILE-DASH_W0QQitemZ120062605567

[vikramdhani]

hi is anyone using the extended battery for tmobile dash and if yes where they bought it from and for how much and how good it is

need some advice

[jt76542]

This guy has one check out his webpage. Kinda Cool. Scroll down about half way. He did a write up about it.

http://www.jamerican.net/

[merwin]

I bought the 2400mAh battery from ETEN
http://shop.eten.hu/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Dash&osCsid=2dfe72834b2db1d13770feab97d8f692

The battery life isn't that great for the first few charge/discharge cycles, but it gets progressively better... more than double the lifespan of the normal battery for me. With my normal usage it lasts for over 4 days, when previously I couldn't make it to 2 days very easily (I use it a lot).

In short, it's a great deal if you have the extra money to spend. One downside however is the normal belt clip case doesn't work for it. I have to use the one from the T-Mobile MDA now That one fits it perfectly. I miss the magnet in the Dash's case... much easier to snap together than the MDA's

[surfing10]

Guys, anyone have this 1050 mAh battery?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1050-mAh-BATTERY-For-HTC-T-Mobile-Dash-Excalibur-S620_W0QQitemZ180123419736QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15034 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

It's better than the 960mAh one? Is worth it?

Thanks

[vivid22]

Be aware of that non-OEM batteries !!! They can rip your excalibur literally apart, and your pocket with it, and i dont want to know what else...:(

[surfing10]

Yep .. and for that reason I post here to see what you guys think!

[Bugs74]

I have it, and it works great. I didn't buy one of the net, but ordered one at a local battery-repair-shop, which guarantees its quality. The store-owner told me never to order batteries on the internet, because there's lots of rubbish out there. I paid €25,- for it, and have a years warranty...
The brand I bought is Cameron Sino Technology, model no.: CS-DC700SL, Part No.: 35H00080-00M

[GADGTGUY]

My battery life has been suffering greatly since upgrading to WM6....

I didn't think the move from the standard 960mah to the 1050mah would be that much of an "upgrade"

I did however go for the 2400mah one that is made for the phone and even comes with a replacement back battery cover to accomodate the slightly larger battery.

With 2400mah I don't think I will have any more end of the day power failures like I am getting now.

D.

[surfing10]

Gadgtguy, where did you bought this one? How much?

[GADGTGUY]

This was the only place I could find it:

http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-s620-excalibur-dopod-c720w-cosmo-tmobile-dash-extended-replacement-battery-2400-with-black-battery-door-p-142.html

It was a bit pricey but if you add up the cost of a bunch of smaller ones it is a good deal.

D.

[vivid22]

Well from my experience with that batteries, i can tell you of a battery i bought when i lived in Hong Kong for my PSP.
It was sold by a big company that sells many PSP accessories...well the original PSP battery has about 1800mAh (at least mine has), the one i bought is about 2600mAh.
Works fine as well, the battery life seems to be larger in the first place. But, it just stays long at a high level and then drops down quite rapid, so the life would be just comparable.
And be honest, what is the 'mind-blowing' difference between 960mAh and 1050?..sth like 90mAh??? :D
Not really that much now is it (considering what i said about it, and that was a difference of 800mAh..)
Afterall, the 2400mAh seems reasonable..but well, your decision, whether you like the 'moby dick'-excalibur afterwards or not;) Plus, i dont really have problems with the battery life, just sync it every 2 or 3 days, and the battery will be just fine !

[real ace 360]

Hello, I have a quick question and I am sure someone here can give me a better answer than the Tmobile help desk.

MY dash is acting really akward. My led on the dash is turning red then suddenly die. If I charge it all night, i can use it for maybe 20 minutes to an Hour Max. When I charge it, the led is orange then turns green after its charge but it wont last. You guys think its the battery? If its not then, I dont want to waste money on buying a new battery if thats the case. If someone has over came thing problem or have any ideas to resolve this issue, I will appreciate any help you show. Thank you

[travisc]

I'm new to this phone, but I'd probably monitor the battery meter in your settings... see if it's running out of juice really fast...

if it's showing a full charge and dying, no idea...

No overclocking software is being used i'm assuming?

[jumran]

It sounds to me like the battery is failing to hold a charge and the phone is automatically shutting down when the battery level gets critical. Check you battery level when the red light starts flashing, if your battery level is less then 10%, you most likely need a new battery. You can also try to use a battery from another dash or a cheap one from eBay to see if it fixes the problem.

[real ace 360]

Well, it doesnt warn or anything i dont think. I make a call or something, then stick the phn in my pocket, then few minutes later ill check and it be dead. I guess I will buy a new battery from ebay n see if that fixes the problem. Thank God I kep my wizard, instead of selling it on ebay. :) If anyone else know any other reason why its dieing, please share. Thank you

[DotStig]

Has anyone expereinced there dash just turning off while in the middle of loading a web page or a program. It happens to me sometimes when accessing facebook, or myspace or just other websites. I also had it happen to me while using Vtap..........

[DotStig]

Has anyone else had this problem?

I'm on the Internet without the charger,and phone goes black(shuts off)
after a few minutes.

When I turn back on,what had about 90% power, would be down to 50%

I cleared storage,but still get same problem, and I am also on WM6

[jamssx]

Your battery is dying. Happend to me. New battery problem went away. The battery's useful life seems to be way shorter than it should be (9 months in my case). It has been suggested that it was because I had a dock so it was connected to my PC all night and trickle charged rather than the faster dedicated charger. Still, picked up the 1050 clone and its great. Better than I remember the original being!

[DotStig]

Ya know I was wondering about that....But on certain occasions the battery would show as being all the way full...Now are you saying that the battery is actually dying meaning no longer useful, or just low power??

[jamssx]

Its actually dying. You need a new one. Its not holding the charge or delivering the current when a high drain occurs. I could watch my battery level drop on the display when I had WiFi turned on. I tried to recondition it but it made no difference.

I used these guys http://www.infinitybatteries.com/p-1485-t-mobile-dash-pda-battery-1050mah-li-ion.aspx and interestingly it shipped from HK even though they say they are in Virginia but the battery works really well.....

[DotStig]

Thanks for the info...by any chance did you end up getting a different case...That is if you have one or not.

[jamssx]

No have the one that came with it. This battery also seems to run cooler. My old one would get warm when listening to music over bluetooth for an extended period. This one doesn't.

[DotStig]

well thats good to know.... Atleast i know the phones not on the fritz....

[crawldit]

*Edit
Never mind. I found this thread. Looks like it's time for a new battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342600

[bootleg16]

i upgraded to the s621 ROM and my battery drains really quick,

i saw a post here on how to help that but i cant seem to find it.
can anybody give me the link or tell me please?

Thanks

[mailos]

Somebody used these accessories?

Extended battery 1300 mah (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=768)
What opinions about battery?

Holster (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=682)
Whether scratches the case the holster? It is how much reliable?

[jdoggraz]

The battery is good, not bad at all. The holster is also reliable because I also have one and I find it reliable.

[mailos]

The battery is good, not bad at all. The holster is also reliable because I also have one and I find it reliable.

Thanks for answer.And some more questions:
1.How time of independent work, with the extended battery increased?
2.Whether there are attritions at use holster?

[GADGTGUY]

That holster is awesome from seeing the pictures.

All the other holsters I have seen put the face of the phone pointing out.... this one does it correctly and faces it in for protection.

Does anyone know if other vendors sell this holster?

I only ask because being in Canada the shipping that Seido is charging is a bit high and really makes that holster expensive.

If there was an alternative place to buy I could compare shipping costs etc.


Thanks

D.

[mailos]

In Moscow such accessories as holster & extended battery, do not sell. Simply I depart to Tuesday to the USA. I shall buy there.

[graybip]

You might also check out www.pocketpctech.com for their extended battery. It is bigger and more expensive but it has a lot more power.

[mailos]

You might also check out www.pocketpctech.com for their extended battery. It is bigger and more expensive but it has a lot more power.

Thanks for advice but this battery, from pocketpctech.com, considerably increases thickness of the device. I shall better buy smaller capacity, but the device remains same thin.

[jumran]

That holster is awesome from seeing the pictures.

All the other holsters I have seen put the face of the phone pointing out.... this one does it correctly and faces it in for protection.

Does anyone know if other vendors sell this holster?

I only ask because being in Canada the shipping that Seido is charging is a bit high and really makes that holster expensive.

If there was an alternative place to buy I could compare shipping costs etc.


Thanks

D.

Take a look at this one.

http://www.softpocket.ca/en/my_accessories/smartphone/c325723/c325724/c331456/p16904151.html

The store is located in Toronto so if you pick it up, you wouldn't have to pay for shipping.

[GADGTGUY]

Take a look at this one.

http://www.softpocket.ca/en/my_accessories/smartphone/c325723/c325724/c331456/p16904151.html

The store is located in Toronto so if you pick it up, you wouldn't have to pay for shipping.


If you look..... that is the same as every other holster on the market with the exception of the Seidio one.

The Seidio one puts the device in with the face towards the back of the holster protecting the screen.

That is what sold me on the design.....

I think I will just bite the bullet and buy the one as listed in the link above.... no one else seems to carry it.

I am also running the 2400mah battery that is much thicker than the standard battery. The seidio holster works with the extended battery.

D.

[mailos]

If you look..... that is the same as every other holster on the market with the exception of the Seidio one.

The Seidio one puts the device in with the face towards the back of the holster protecting the screen.

That is what sold me on the design.....

D.

I completely agree, Seidio'S holster it is better.

[tchan]

I've have my Dash for about a year. When I updated to Windows Mobile 6 among other bugs I noticed the phone's battery will go down very fast. Which I thought was due to the fact the phone doesn't deallocate the memory used by programs.

I have removed the MyFavs plugin from the startup folder already, and I noticed an improvement on the memory. I don't have other programs running on the background.

My phone's battery doesn't go down drastically when on standby. The problem is once I use it, even just to send a text message. It will go down about 2%.

I don't know if the problem is the battery or my phone. I would like to hear what you guys think. If you think the problem is the battery, could you please recommend me a better battery? If not, could you give me any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

[runningerin]

Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000RK1AYI/

It's probably time for a new battery! For most people, it is lasting 6-9 months.

[jdoggraz]

Yeah I just got a new battery and its rocking now... get one off ebay... its really cheap... I got mine for a total for six dollars and thats for an OEM battery to...

[sphinx780]

I have also had severe battery drain issues very quickly after upgrading my dash to wm6 this past weekend. I have ordered a new battery because I will need more than one to get through a day if this persists but I do have trouble thinking that this is a mere coincidence and the battery has just met it's end.

With wm5, running an average of 60 min talk time, push email and a random hour of applications or games, I had at least 2 bars left by days in (11PM).

Within two days after the upgrade to wm6, I have found that I hit 2 bars within 3 hours. I have checked all of my power settings to adjust for best battery life yet it's still killing my battery quick. The only change I have made to the phone from the first two days until now is going back to the 5.99 t-mobile net plan and using the proxy for web/email.

I use Task Manager to regularly kill any program I am not using outside of leaving the messaging open. I have also tried making sure messaging is not left running to see if that will improve but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

Anyone have any suggestions or advice on what could possibly be causing this because I have a hard time seeing a new battery fix this issue?

[tchan]

I got a new battery today. It looks like that's what I needed. Thanks for the replies anyway. I did order it through amazon.com.

About the memory leak, and battery drain, removing myfavs from the startup folder helps a lot. Now every time I close all the programs I get the 22+ kb back.

Thanks!

[sphinx780]

Ok, I finally figured out what was causing the battery drain since the upgrade...I don't know how or why, I just know that since I deleted the program my phone is back to normal battery life for the past 12 hours (previously was going from full to dead in 4 hours regardless of use).

I had downloaded a cab from omnisoft found in a thread at: http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/07/some-new-dash-tips-tricks-for-wm6-tip-1.html for fixing the profile/reminder bug found with wm6.

It did fix the bug but the severe battery drain was not pleasant. I deleted the program off my phone, reset the phone and everything has been working just fine. I'm assuming that many experiencing the same problem may have come across this solution as well. The profile/reminder bug did not return after deleting the program. So far so good, I will be sure to update if there is any change.

[shadhman]

Does your guys batteries get really hot when charging? I had one time it was burning hot and had to take off the back and batt to let it cool for fear of the plastic melting... ANyone else experience this or something similar?

[sphinx780]

Hey,

I can't remember where but I did come across a forum where someone seemed to be experiecing something similar. Sounded like the solution was replacing the charger itself. That's probably what I would do on the first go to see if that takes care of it, replacing the battery may be an option too. Hope that helps!

[falleny]

no, never experienced such situation,
my excalibur even have a silicon shell and i never feel hot when i am charging the battery....both with original charger and usb

[braveleo]

I've have my Dash for about a year. When I updated to Windows Mobile 6 among other bugs I noticed the phone's battery will go down very fast. Which I thought was due to the fact the phone doesn't deallocate the memory used by programs.

I have removed the MyFavs plugin from the startup folder already, and I noticed an improvement on the memory. I don't have other programs running on the background.

My phone's battery doesn't go down drastically when on standby. The problem is once I use it, even just to send a text message. It will go down about 2%.

I don't know if the problem is the battery or my phone. I would like to hear what you guys think. If you think the problem is the battery, could you please recommend me a better battery? If not, could you give me any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

At first, I had the same problem like u.It took 1h to charge from 1% to 100% down 1% in 20s and from 100% to 97% when I just pull out^^, but I tried to charge it overnight (maybe 3-4hrs)then it seemed to be normal ^^ maybe there was some problem with the operation that gave us wrong infomation about the power when it reached 100%.

[taylor_b92]

That same exact thing happened to me. I'm pretty sure you solved the problem already but the batter was going out. All you have to do is go to any old T-Mobile store and ask em if they have a replacement.

[djdanska]

My dash battery died about a year after i bought it. I thought it was the phone at first. It just couldn't hold a charge and took forever to charge. I bought the large battery for it. the 2400mah one. (link to example (http://www.wirelessground.com/tdasuex24lii.html)). I can go at least 2 days without charging the battery on light use. The regular battery's are a lot cheaper though. This makes the dash a bit bigger. Might not be what your looking for.

[taylor_b92]

Yeah man I sent in my Dash to T-Mobile thinking the phone was no good. I got the new one and realized it was the battery. Pissed me off because they charged me for internal water damage. I didn't have a problem with the phone or anything and the sticker was white but they still said there was damage. If I'd have known I was gonna get charged for the phone (when the battery was the problem) I would still have my old Dash. Now I'm about to get my third one because my second one (replacement) died last night. I pulled the battery out and it never came back on. I hope I can get it fixed before I get the new one.

[Kichigai]

I've got two problems with my Dash at this point.

First is the battery. This has been going on for a little while now, but it seems my battery life has decided to jump off a cliff. Just today, for example, I took the Dash off its charger, and after taking one picture, and sending it off, and attempting to listen to some music via A2DP, I ended up at 56% battery life (total time on battery power: approx 1.5 hours, Time using A2DP: <3 min). It's getting to the point where I have to charge my phone two or three times per day. I know smartphones traditionally have bad battery life, but my Dash's battery life has never been this bad. I've been able to go around, listening to music via A2DP for around two or so hours, and end up with around 80% battery life. And I'm not even hammering away at the WiFi or EDGE.

The other thing is that I now seem to be experiencing crashes when I use LiveJournal Mobile and A2DP to listen to music. I'm not sure if it's one of these two things, or a combination, but all I know is that these crashes happen silently (IE: I get no notification, unless I'm currently listening to music), and I'm missing phone calls. Is there some kind of known issue with this? I'm working to try and isolate the problem more specifically.

Thanks!

P.S.: Notes:
Device: T-Mobile Dash (HTC Excalibur)
Storage Card: 1 GB microSD
Bluetooth Devices: Bluespoon Spider A2DP/AVRCP Headset
OS: Windows Mobile 6 (T-Mobile Update)
Locking Status: SIM/CID Unlocked
Carrier: AT&T Mobility (Cingular Settings)

[rushless]

I've got two problems with my Dash at this point.

First is the battery. This has been going on for a little while now, but it seems my battery life has decided to jump off a cliff. Just today, for example, I took the Dash off its charger, and after taking one picture, and sending it off, and attempting to listen to some music via A2DP, I ended up at 56% battery life (total time on battery power: approx 1.5 hours, Time using A2DP: <3 min). It's getting to the point where I have to charge my phone two or three times per day. I know smartphones traditionally have bad battery life, but my Dash's battery life has never been this bad. I've been able to go around, listening to music via A2DP for around two or so hours, and end up with around 80% battery life. And I'm not even hammering away at the WiFi or EDGE.

The other thing is that I now seem to be experiencing crashes when I use LiveJournal Mobile and A2DP to listen to music. I'm not sure if it's one of these two things, or a combination, but all I know is that these crashes happen silently (IE: I get no notification, unless I'm currently listening to music), and I'm missing phone calls. Is there some kind of known issue with this? I'm working to try and isolate the problem more specifically.

Thanks!

P.S.: Notes:
Device: T-Mobile Dash (HTC Excalibur)
Storage Card: 1 GB microSD
Bluetooth Devices: Bluespoon Spider A2DP/AVRCP Headset
OS: Windows Mobile 6 (T-Mobile Update)
Locking Status: SIM/CID Unlocked
Carrier: AT&T Mobility (Cingular Settings)

Similar problem and a new battery fixed it- for me, at least.

[djdanska]

Similar problem and a new battery fixed it- for me, at least.Me too. My battery lasted about a year before i had to replace it.

[Kichigai]

When I use the built-in speaker, I get weird errors. Ringtones and songs play too fast, and with the wrong pitch. The alarm also goes off four time simultaneously. This problem survived a pair of hard resets.

[rushless]

When I use the built-in speaker, I get weird errors. Ringtones and songs play too fast, and with the wrong pitch. The alarm also goes off four time simultaneously. This problem survived a pair of hard resets.

System problems are solved one at a time. Suggest replacing the battery first and then see what problems have been eliminated. If you have a local T-Mobile store, ask to use the demo battery and try it with your unit, if you do not want to spend about $20 for tha battery until sure.

Oops, just noticed you are with AT&T. I still think a new battery is a path to correcting your problems.

[Kichigai]

My situation has actually worsened. My phone now randomly shuts off, whether or not Bluetooth is actually activated, and this happens at a more random interval, but seems to manifest when the battery is around 70%. My friend with a newer Dash is reporting similar issues, and people are reporting problems over at the HTC Wiki. This seems a little too widespread to just be the battery. As a financially challenged student, I don't want to drive out 20 minutes to the nearest T-Mobile store to buy a $20 battery, only to find out I need a whole new phone.

[ashasaur]

Now, this is gonna seem kinda smartassed, but have you actual TRIED anything with the battery? Seriosuly, and this comes from an IT professional here...sometimes the smallest thing can cause an entire big thing to fail. Try swaping batteries with your friend and see if that solves your problem. I have had the high-pitched fast music problem too....and a simple soft-reset fixed that for me.

[libove]

I've had my S620 (T-Mobile Dash) for about one year. I have had issues with battery life, and now possess three batteries - one in the device and two more I carry around charged. As an earlier posted noted, any "heavy" use, particularly PocketIE, will drain a fully charged battery surprisingly quickly.
Starting in recent weeks/months, it has gotten worse - the device will abruptly shut off sometimes when using PocketIE, or as recently occurred when sending an email with a photo attachment (very heavy data network use). My guess is that some activities on the phone cause the CPU to peg and the battery can't supply enough power to keep the device running.
Not that this is conclusive, but a few minutes ago I switched to another one of my three batteries and beat up the device a bit in ways that caused a series of sudden shutdowns in earlier testing today, and haven't been able to reproduce the sudden shutdown. So, I probably have one bad battery. It's disappointing how little longevity we get out of these batteries (and, yes, I do realize how hard duty they perform. Still.)
Hopefully this will be helpful to someone.
-Jay

[djdanska]

So, I probably have one bad battery. It's disappointing how little longevity we get out of these batteries (and, yes, I do realize how hard duty they perform. Still.)
Hopefully this will be helpful to someone.
-JayThe 2400mah battery does help a lot with that. One of the best investments i have made with my dash.

[lukybandit]

oh mann...sorry to hear about what's going on with you, BUT FINALLY I'M AT PEACE MYSELF :@

cause for the past two to three weeks, i was experiencing HELL with my phone. i've had the phone since last june, have used wi-fi/ad2p on it but the past 2-3 weeks, i've used nothing on it, a basic phone call and my phone would shut down, if i dont make any calls, it would be fine for 30 mins then die.

like everyone suggested, i'd buy a new battery which i did myself and since yesterday (after i recieved the battery) my phone's been back to normal now i find myself loving the phone like i did before so do buy a new battery and hopefully, all your problems will end.

good luck !

[timothyjok]

I know that Technoboy brought it up before. I haven't seen anything else on this topic. My battery is either on the way out or this new rom likes the juice. I barely used my phone today and in 7 hours it had low battery indicator

[Mikey1022]

I know that Technoboy brought it up before. I haven't seen anything else on this topic. My battery is either on the way out or this new rom likes the juice. I barely used my phone today and in 7 hours it had low battery indicator

Im not but then again i only run bluetooth on all the time and here there WiFi
took phone off charger this morning and still running strong.
my last charge was last tuesday lol

I even bought the extended battery with HTC cover yesterday online :)

[timothyjok]

Im not but then again i only run bluetooth on all the time and here there WiFi
took phone off charger this morning and still running strong.
my last charge was last tuesday lol

I even bought the extended battery with HTC cover yesterday online :)
what have you got a NUKE in that thing!

[Mikey1022]

what have you got a NUKE in that thing!

it surprised me as well. I even have the feature not to charge while connected to a USB lol

Weird lol
thats why i bought the battery, i have a feeling acting like this. Its death has to be around the corner lol

[timothyjok]

[QUOTE=Mikey1022;2053576]it surprised me as well. I even have the feature not to charge while connected to a USB lol

Weird lol
thats why i bought the battery, i have a feeling acting like this. Its death has to be around the corner lol[/QU
Some batteries are better than others for sure.

[SirKeats]

i was running a brand new battery this weekend on a full charge and was listening to some tunes. i got MAYBE an hour to an hour and a half before the battery was completely dead.

under normal operating conditions my battery works as it did with 6.0 and i have no drain issues at all... in fact it last just as long in 6.1 as with 6.0 as far as i can tell.

i wonder if 6.1 has some issues specifically with multimedia and battery life. it certainly did for me!!

[estranged_inc]

I used to get max of 2 days with WM6. I'm getting 3 days now with WM6.1

Wi-Fi OFF
Bluetooth ON
Exchange Push ON (always)
Sliding Panels homepage

[timothyjok]

I used to get max of 2 days with WM6. I'm getting 3 days now with WM6.1

Wi-Fi OFF
Bluetooth ON
Exchange Push ON (always)
Sliding Panels homepage
Yeah I'm thinking my battery has seen better days. I've had it for almost a year

[bratz]

try to use for home screen for example windows deafult.... i think it is slide... i dont remember the name that kill your battery..... or programs like pocket photocontact....

[vwrpm]

My original battery was already on it's way out when I installed WM6.1 so I'm not sure of the difference in drain. I now have the 1550mAh extended battery and get two full days of relentless use. I listen to music through stereo bluetooth for at least an hour and a half a day as well as about an hour of talk time, 100 or so texts, and sharing files via bluetooth with coworkers.

[littleclown]

Hello. I have standart 960MAh battery and my battery life with 6.1 is about two days and a half.

I have another question: I read about that windows needs some full charge-uncharge cycles to make battery indicator work correct. before that is stays 100% for a long time and then fast goes down. is this true?

[sergiopi]

I used to get max of 2 days with WM6. I'm getting 3 days now with WM6.1

Wi-Fi OFF
Bluetooth ON
Exchange Push ON (always)
Sliding Panels homepage


Same settings for me plus gmail checking every 2 Hrs, battery 1-2 days, before lessa than one!

[sully78]

mine is starting to shut down at random. usualy when I use IE. I then have to take the battery out and then I can usually get it to start again. maybe its the battery but it never happened until I switched to 6.1 my battery is not lasting as long as it did a week ago.

where are you guys getting deals on new batteries, I saw some on amazon last night.

[sully78]

Just curious if anyone else is having this issue. I downloaded the REMAKED Kavana 080318 by rick WM6.1 ROM and I love it except that for some reason everytime I launch internet explorer my phone shuts down. I can launch it and hit a few links and then it will just shut down. I then try to turn it back on and it will power to the windows mobile scrren and shut down or all the way back up to the main screen and then turn right back off. The only way to keep it on after this happens is to plug it in. A couple time pulling the battery for 10sec and reinserting has worked. Now the battery is good 80% charged, I've tried this after a full charge and it does the same thing.
If I keep it plugged in it works fine no issues, so my question is, is it the battery or another issue?
Is there a better web browser to use with 6.1?

I already ordered a new battery, but I really don't think that is the issue, IE has been working fine under 6.0 for the past 6 months. No issue until now.

[jdoggraz]

maybe the wi-fi was on or something... or maybe your phone is sett to stay on longer then it should (the blacklight) cause for me it lasts a lot longer is what I noticed. If not try to get a new battery from ebay, I got another one for like 5 dollars all together.

[socal1]

I'm not having that problem, but sometimes IE will lock up. I can usually kill it with the task manager. Sometimes the phone will lock up and I have to push the power switch or pull the battery. This happens with the phone plugged in or running on battery. I'm going to try opera mini tonight to see how that behaves.

[sully78]

I've justed loaded ricky's v4, hopefully that will fix it.

[-RotorDemon-]

Been recently having a similar problem where the phone will just straight shut off with a stock HTC rom. Running IE, Palringo, even the video recorder. I was thinking it was the battery but I am going to throw another ROM on here tonight and see what happens.

[sergiopi]

Is a known battery problem. Replace the battery and everyting will be fine!

[-RotorDemon-]

Is a known battery problem. Replace the battery and everyting will be fine!

Just got off the phone with Tmo and I tried to get them to send another battery but they are sending a new (possibly and hopefully not a refurb) S620. Battery was my guess since it functions fine on the charger.

When the new one dies I'll spot for one of the 2200mAh batteries on ebay.

[sully78]

I am running a brand new dash that was sent out as a replacement for my last one that kept locking up. They will not send a new battery, you will have to use the one you've been using. So now I dont know if it is the battery or the new phone I got sent. Either way I bought a new battery, hope it gets here soon so I can start to figure it out. I just downloaded rick's v3 ROM and I have the same issue.

[jasonj92]

So heres the story

A while back, I decided to do the 5.99 hack
for around 2 months it worked fine, then my phone started to turn off for no reason while i was using data.
so i thought the problem was with the hack, so i took off the tzones plan.
after going on wi-fi a couple of weeks after, the phone turned off again, so i realized that it might not of been the hack that messed up my phone (so i took off the tzones plan),
i went through numerous phones (3-4), using the same battery, and they all turned off during wifi.
now i got a new battery and wi-fi is working flawlessly.
so i am pretty sure the old battery is what caused this problem.
so now i am debating whether i get the tzones plan again
i am just concerned if the hack is what caused my phone to act this way in the first place.
so what do you guys think?

did any of you guys ever have a problem like this? if so, what was the root of this problem.

any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

[jsp_m]

you said ti yourself, batt was to be blamed. it died, coincidentally corresponding with the rom change.

use the proven kavana latest rom, nevertheless

[jasonj92]

you said ti yourself, batt was to be blamed. it died, coincidentally corresponding with the rom change.

use the proven kavana latest rom, nevertheless

yeah, true
but im wondering if the hack is what caused the battery to go wrong in the first place.

[NRGZ28]

Well if anybody creates software that will damage batteries, they deserve some type of prize! :rolleyes:

Don't want to sound like a smartass... but the "hack" you're talking about is not a "hack". It's just a setting TMobile chooses not to tell you about, in order to get you to buy the full price internet plan. :)

[Se7eN43]

Im in need of a new battery, so im lookin for the highest extended life battery there is. I've looked around and see batteries with 1050mAh, 1550mAh, and 2200mAh. im sure some of these are scams for impulse buyers. can someone help me out as to what the highest mAh is for the s620 and which place is trust worthy enough to buy from? thanks

[MulderFox]

I got one that is 2400 mAh.... Came with a big fat new back door for the phone...

[Se7eN43]

I got one that is 2400 mAh.... Came with a big fat new back door for the phone...

where did u get that one at? do u notice the difference?

[superminipoo]

mugen power.

[tennisshoeninja]

i love my dash but i have some major issues...

1.in call text messages alerts nearly blows my ear drum...
2.non vibrating text messages when put on vibrate..(check profiles setting is on pulsing vibrate)
3.screen goes plain white some times. randomly. but i click a button and it comes back. like a plain screen saver..
4.horrible battery life..but i think it doesn't charge ordered one :)
so mainly problems 1-3..which is the only things i dont like
*EDIT*5.just found a new one... everyone i call is like " i cant hear you speak up!" and my volume it the highest

Programs installed
1.et9 fix
2.smart tweaker (paid 6$ just remove that annoying message sent that pops up after you send a txt)
3. app unlock
4. TCPMP
5.Bluetooth audio
6.WordPad

anything will help!! plz

thanks in advance.:)

[dan24]

1. Start-Menu-Accessibility-InCall alert volume

lower it.

[SpringfieldXD45C]

4. New battery should do the trick. It seems that a certain percent of all batteries made are faulty. I had the same problem, I called tmo and they sent me a new battery (warranty) for free, and it fixed that problem. Girlfriend had the exact same issue, same solution.

[tennisshoeninja]

thanks dan24 dumb of me....

[tennisshoeninja]

4. New battery should do the trick. It seems that a certain percent of all batteries made are faulty. I had the same problem, I called tmo and they sent me a new battery (warranty) for free, and it fixed that problem. Girlfriend had the exact same issue, same solution.

ill try it.

[tennisshoeninja]

4. New battery should do the trick. It seems that a certain percent of all batteries made are faulty. I had the same problem, I called tmo and they sent me a new battery (warranty) for free, and it fixed that problem. Girlfriend had the exact same issue, same solution.

Went to t mobile and don't have warranty :(

[SpringfieldXD45C]

Ah well... you tried! I guess your best bet is to buy another one. Try eBay or something else before buying through Tmo... I'm sure you can get a better deal. I'll see what I can find online for you.

[SpringfieldXD45C]

OK Here we go... here's a few quick links I found for you, and they all seem reasonable.

$12.99 (wow.. clearance!) LOL (http://www.cellphoneshop.net/batterys620.html)

Amazon has it new (OEM) for $15.99 (http://www.amazon.com/ORIGINAL-T-Mobile-Excalibur-Battery-TMobile/dp/B000RK1AYI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1207273025&sr=8-1)

Another Amazon item... not OEM, but cheaper... $8.97 new (http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Smartphone-Standard-Lithium-Ion-Replacement/dp/B000N38FI8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1207273025&sr=8-2)

Those all seem pretty decent :) But I would be leary of the non-OEM battery. Good luck, buddy.

[SpringfieldXD45C]

Actually, the non-OEM seems to have a couple of good reviews, so you know... If you want to save a buck and take the chance, go for it. You'd think if it sucked there would be at least ONE bad review for it. I know when I get a bad egg at Amazon, the first thing I do is bash the hell out of it in a review.

Yeah, I'm gonna retract my statement above about being leary of the non-OEM battery. I'd have to say that the only remaining risk of using a non-OEM battery would be a warranty void, and that doesn't apply to you, as you no longer have a warranty.

Anyone else have any experience with non-OEM batts?

Anyway, hope I helped. Poor guy, I know what it feels like to need a new battery only to have the dealer say "Sorry, you're screwed" and see a $40 dealer price tag.

[nlarge]

should get the extended batt if you are replacing it anyway!

[tennisshoeninja]

OK Here we go... here's a few quick links I found for you, and they all seem reasonable.

$12.99 (wow.. clearance!) LOL (http://www.cellphoneshop.net/batterys620.html)

Amazon has it new (OEM) for $15.99 (http://www.amazon.com/ORIGINAL-T-Mobile-Excalibur-Battery-TMobile/dp/B000RK1AYI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1207273025&sr=8-1)

Another Amazon item... not OEM, but cheaper... $8.97 new (http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Smartphone-Standard-Lithium-Ion-Replacement/dp/B000N38FI8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1207273025&sr=8-2)

Those all seem pretty decent :) But I would be leary of the non-OEM battery. Good luck, buddy.

OMG...bought one non oem 1050 mAh one for 20$ before know this.

OEM would be safer right?

[superminipoo]

im also looking to buy a battery. i think i will buy the extended 2400 mah for 54 bux. im still thinking bout it if i want the extended back or not. or get 1300 mah slim for same price. arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!

[SpringfieldXD45C]

OMG...bought one non oem 1050 mAh one for 20$ before know this.

OEM would be safer right?

Not necessarily... I think that's a stigma. I DO know that it will void your warranty, though.

[gr33k]

waiting to get a 1300 battery instead of 960...The battery is getting a bit thicker...I've notice my phone has not been working right since then...with the new flash it was working fine but then as my battery's condition worsened this is what happens now. crashes with stuff like Live Search, IE, and other intensive apps

The one thing it's doing now is that I can't sync - could be the battery again, but it WAS syncing at first (win XP with AS 4.5) - This is a strange issue which annoys me (I'm using Ricky's v6 rom) but I'm going to wait until the battery replacement b4 I start going nuts trying to "fix it"

Good luck :)

[linh1987]

Hi guys, I'm having some strange problems with my s620.
The thing is my phone is drain like.. hell. Just 2 hours my pocket doing nothing and it's dropped from 100 to 84%.
The problem is sometime when I flash it with official WM6 firmware, the issue doesn't happen to me. I can leave it for 6 hours straight and the battery still stays at 96-98%. Remember that it's sometime, because when I flash it to another 6.1 firmware, I got the issue, and flash official WM6 back doesn't help it.
Any idea?

[Technology]

Hi guys, I'm having some strange problems with my s620.
The thing is my phone is drain like.. hell. Just 2 hours my pocket doing nothing and it's dropped from 100 to 84%.
The problem is sometime when I flash it with official WM6 firmware, the issue doesn't happen to me. I can leave it for 6 hours straight and the battery still stays at 96-98%. Remember that it's sometime, because when I flash it to another 6.1 firmware, I got the issue, and flash official WM6 back doesn't help it.
Any idea?Which 6.1 software are using.........? Because with all 6.1 ROM'S this does not happen. I have experience the same thing, but I need to know which 6.1 ROM you are having this problem with now.......!

[linh1987]

first I flash to Kavana ROM 18/03/2008 version. Battery is still fine. After that I messed up with the registry so I flash it again with 20/03/2008. That is when the issue started. I've tried every rom I can get (6.1 30/03/2008, ricky's ROM) but nothing helps. Right now i'm running official WM6 RUU_Excalibur_HTC_WWE_Brightpoint_US_1.33.422.1_4. 1.13.51_03.07.90_Ship version and it downs from 100 to 84 in 2 hours.

[HKBoySiR]

Is a known battery problem. Replace the battery and everyting will be fine!

Not sure about this... I have a brand new battery (2 weeks old) and it still does the same thing for me.

[ed02]

Hi guys, I'm having some strange problems with my s620.
The thing is my phone is drain like.. hell. Just 2 hours my pocket doing nothing and it's dropped from 100 to 84%.
The problem is sometime when I flash it with official WM6 firmware, the issue doesn't happen to me. I can leave it for 6 hours straight and the battery still stays at 96-98%. Remember that it's sometime, because when I flash it to another 6.1 firmware, I got the issue, and flash official WM6 back doesn't help it.
Any idea?

I would think is the battery that needs replacement, I had to buy one from ebay not long ago you might want to cosider that, because from what I read the OEM battery life is short.

[Reeg]

I would think is the battery that needs replacement, I had to buy one from ebay not long ago you might want to cosider that, because from what I read the OEM battery life is short.

What kind did you get on ebay and how's it workin' for ya? I looked myself, but they all look kinda cheap and chinsy.

[ed02]

What kind did you get on ebay and how's it workin' for ya? I looked myself, but they all look kinda cheap and chinsy.

Here is a description from the post:

Brand new non-OEM
Capacity: 960mAh
Powerful: Provides up to 5-6 hours of talk time and up to 2 weeks of standby time (depending on smartphone configuration)
Rechargable: Recharges in phone or in the battery drawer of Cradle Kit
Safe: Built-in overcharging protection

I guess the most important part is that its NON-OEM, its been working great so far I havent actually cheked on the talk time but it works better than the original one. It was only like 10 dollars so it wasnt bad

[-RotorDemon-]

Well, I got the new phone the other day, same problem from the get go. Finally found someone in tech support that I got to ship out a replacement battery free shipping and all! :D

[theformula]

I'll go ahead and add myself to the list, my phone started doing this after I updated to the official HTC 1.33 ROM. I've been through 4 NEW batteries in the last week, which my local T-Mobile store was happy to replace each time.
At this point I can let my battery fully discharge until the phone turns itself off, then pull the battery for 5 minutes, when I replace the battery and power up the phone under Settings>Power Options battery level reports 60%+ charge level. BUT, if I actually try to use the phone it dies instantly.
My battery also bulges now to the point that the back cover has to curve around the battery to slide on properly. It is my belief that one of the updates somehow corrupted the internal charging circuit in the phone. Once again I have tested with:
1 original battery
4 NEW batteries
t-mobile wm5 ship rom
t-mobile wm6 ship rom
htc 1.33 wwe rom
ricky's wm6.1 v5, v6 roms

There has been no change in battery charge level or capacity. Does anyone know if there is there some deeper system firmware that regulates battery status I may not be aware of? Also I have heard that the Excalibur is manufactured in China and Taiwan, the Taiwan variant being superior. Mine is made in China.

[The Stig]

yea this reoccurring problem with the Dash is a real turnoff, I made a thread on it too and came to the same conclusion. Have you tried running 6.1 but not using the sliding theme? That's what I'm currently using and I have found that it atleast helps (possibly placebo effect?). This battery deal has driven me to the point of considering other phones.

[theformula]

yea this reoccurring problem with the Dash is a real turnoff, I made a thread on it too and came to the same conclusion. Have you tried running 6.1 but not using the sliding theme? That's what I'm currently using and I have found that it atleast helps (possibly placebo effect?). This battery deal has driven me to the point of considering other phones.

its not just this phone either, my good friend has a universal and after upgrading to an official htc rom his battery life went to h*ll also. Even a new oem battery had the same effect. I would really like to see this fixed as it seems the battery charge level is just not being reported properly.

no using another homescreen did not help, im back to the wm5 tmobile ship rom and it is still doing the shutdown routine, instantly on wifi and with a small delay when syncing to exchange. my warranty is gone and im really bummed.

[theformula]

Hey guys, regarding the excalibur battery issue: last night i was reading a thread that recommended a hard reset between flashes. It occured to me that i have never done this before, so for sh*ts and grins i did, then ran sda app unlock, followed by uspl, finally flashing back to the ship t-mobile wm5 rom, yeah oldskool right?

Phone came up and the battery meter still reported 60%+ like it's been doing since the htc 1.33 rom update, but as soon as i turned on wifi it died. Here is the good part though, when my phone finally came back up it reported only 2% battery then promptly shut down showing the tmo shutdown animation.

Phone is sitting on the charger now and reporting 40% charge after being plugged in for an hour and a half. I dont know if it was the ship rom or the hard reset before flashing, but i thought someone else experiencing this issue might want to give it a shot and maybe we can come up with something, good luck...

[littleclown]

Charge it more. This indicator means nothing to me :).
My battery stays 100% a half a day. Another half on 85%, all other day on 75 and in the beggining of the third go to 2% and thats all :)

[cavenger]

with Kavana's ROM. It seems to be isolated to when I turn WIFI on. Battery just dies very quickly. I have not had time to troubleshoot it yet, but right now I plan on not even turning on WIFI for a while to make sure that battery charge holds longer.

[bbbblack]

Is there a plugin or hack, that will display my battery life in percentage on the sliding panel homescreen while my phone is locked?

thx in advance

[NRGZ28]

There arent any plugsins for CHome, that I know of. When the phone gets locked, unfortunately, CHome always defaults to the first panel, the clock. So a hack would be pretty difficult to do, unless you could somehow show the battery percentage in one of the panels below, while it's collapsed.

[tmcfarland]

NRGZ28 - Does your battery bar show and update when locked?

[Mikey1022]

mine does....why

[Svoms]

anyone know whereI can find the battery icon for the icon bar..? I can only find the one where it is charging or at fault..I'd like to make the battery have a percent in it.

see attachment

[torontotytn]

Morning all - wondering if anyone knows the cheapest online retailers for
s620 cases/pouches.

I started to look on ebay - but curious if there were any other places you guys use for accessories.

[pudgedaddy]

Morning all - wondering if anyone knows the cheapest online retailers for
s620 cases/pouches.

I started to look on ebay - but curious if there were any other places you guys use for accessories.

http://www.pdair.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048

but i swear by the metal cases for my dash. I've had 2 of them. The first one i had was listed on pdair's website. The other one ( the one i use now) Is caled innopocket metal black case.
The two major differences are the one on pdair's site ( and its the same one listed on 99% on all other sites) leaves the top of the case open after you close the top cover, which for me never completely secired the phone and allowed it to shift while it was in the case. The one i use now ( the innopocket metal black case) is completely enclosed and keeps the phone from moving and shifting while the top cover is closed. Here's the link for the one i use, but I'm sure other sites sell it too. http://cgi.ebay.com/INNOPOCKET-BLACK-METAL-ALUMINUM-CASE-FOR-T-MOBILE-DASH_W0QQitemZ300212707451QQihZ020QQcategoryZ32233 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[bbbblack]

The post above me is exactly what i need !

and in response to "tmcfarland" yes my battery bar shows up, but i dont want bars,
i want numbers. i want 2 know exactly what my current battery life is. Drift my catch?

[sully78]

Morning all - wondering if anyone knows the cheapest online retailers for
s620 cases/pouches.

I started to look on ebay - but curious if there were any other places you guys use for accessories.

I got a rubber like case, screen protector, car charger, home charger and charger/data stand all on amazon for 25 shipped from bargain cell.

[torontotytn]

Thanks guys!
I'm looking for something similiar to this:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SMART-PHONE-POUCH-HOLSTER-CASE-FOR-HTC-T-MOBILE-DASH_W0QQitemZ190211313074QQihZ009QQcategoryZ15036 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks kinda cheap but it would protect it from a fall and in the bag.

[goraps]

I use the OEM leather pouch made for the balckberry curve. If you are in T.O. you can get it from a Rogers Wireless pretty cheap. I think it is like 30$. You can also ask at the store to try it out first. Here is a link to the pic on the Rogers site http://www.rogers.com/web/portlets/consumer/wireless/phoneBuyflow/MagnifyAccessories.jsp?productId=HDW13386001

[suprajztwenty]

i found a rubber one thats all black (friggin sweet) only thing is the buttons dont shine light near as well at night, but they come in different colors as well as "clear"-but really, its just white. i like it a lot except for grabbing the phone while im in the car, the rubber case sticks to my pocket....otherwise it looks awesome all blacked out. try google and search "s620 accessories" or "s620 rubber case" if you want to take a look at what ive got.

[suprajztwenty]

ha, now i understand...yea i want that too!

[bbbblack]

Nvm u guys, i have found an alternative....
What i did, was edit the xml file "sliding_panel media" and i put settings as the first panel. The i used "oldsap's app" program to let the first link become "battery meter"
So now, when i lock my phone, instead of the time being the default panel, it is settings and the link that shows is the battery meter

[bbbblack]

Also, if you wondering "well how i can i see the time now while the device is locked?" jus hit any button and the time appears in that window that prompts you too unlock your phone

[bbbblack]

Nvm pt.2

U can see the time. its just smaller thats all

[littleclown]

http://shope2.com/Product.php?cpath=1

[iamanalog]

I really hate to threadjack but im looking to pick up another miniusb to 3.5mm converter, anyone know a good site online for them? I cant for the live of me remember where i bought the first one i had from.

[littleclown]

http://shope2.com/Product.php?cpath=1
I already buy this adapter, and waiting for it. 2$ :).
5$ international shipping.

[pudgedaddy]

I really hate to threadjack but im looking to pick up another miniusb to 3.5mm converter, anyone know a good site online for them? I cant for the live of me remember where i bought the first one i had from.

I do. I have 2 of them. One of them is a single 3.5 to mini USB here:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5314
and the other is a 3 in 1 usb converter that allows a 3.5 mm headphone jack. a charging mini-usb jack , and the mini usb headphone jack all at the same time here: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5414

WorldWide FREE SHIPPING!

[trmacdonal]

I use the full body Invisible Shield to protect my dash. It doesn't make it anymore rugged, but it stops all scratches. The screen actually looks better with the shield over it.

[timothyjok]

http://www.motosmartzone.com/dotnetnuke/Default.aspx?alias=www.motosmartzone.com/dotnetnuke/mobismartzone

[bountyman334]

Can anybody tell the signs of a bad battery because whenever i turn my phone on and make a call and end it my vibrates for no reason...... and the only way to stop it is to either to turn on camera or switch profile to vibrate ... and now am wondering is any body else having this problem or has any help... please help

[NRGZ28]

So if the phone vibrates constantly, it's a bad battery ? What makes you think that, I wonder ?!? Sounds more like a bad ROM....

[bountyman334]

I Dont kno cuz i switch back to the tmobile rom and i got the same thing and then i went to the htc rom same the thing but my battery is boo boo cuz when i be on tha phone for more then 5 mins its gonna cut off on me ..

[smart1]

My dash turns off when I'm trying to access interne via wi-fi or edge and then red light idicates that the battery is down even if it was about 30-40% just few mins ago. It just drives me insane.

[bountyman334]

You knon i had the same problem but i read somewhere that its the battery bt am finna buy me another one....... but ion know why my keep virbrating tho its drivng me crazy tho am about to break this phone lol.... please help

[theformula]

The battery issue has plagued my dash for the last 6 months, i dont use the phone anymore since it just shuts off randomly. Especially on wifi. A new (actually 4 new) battery didn't solve the problem. If you go into a actual t-mobile store (locations can be found on tmobiles website) it is my experience that they will give you a new battery. Give it a shot, hope this works for you.

P.S. try tmobile stores in nicer areas, they seem to be more receptive

[smart1]

The battery issue has plagued my dash for the last 6 months, i dont use the phone anymore since it just shuts off randomly. Especially on wifi. A new (actually 4 new) battery didn't solve the problem. If you go into a actual t-mobile store (locations can be found on tmobiles website) it is my experience that they will give you a new battery. Give it a shot, hope this works for you.

P.S. try tmobile stores in nicer areas, they seem to be more receptive

I have exactly the same problem. Is this really a battery problem? Have you been able to find a final solution? I'll try to get extended 1300mah battery tomorrow.

[bountyman334]

yea me too because this is really getting on my nerves

[theformula]

I have exactly the same problem. Is this really a battery problem? Have you been able to find a final solution? I'll try to get extended 1300mah battery tomorrow.

sadly a new battery has not helped solve my problem. it seems the phone is not fully charging the battery and the charge level will not report accurately either. sometimes it's 60%+ sometimes its 80%+ then if i make a call it just dies. i have been through several batteries and roms, have not been able to resolve this yet.
its a shame too because i really like this phone.

[smart1]

sadly a new battery has not helped solve my problem. it seems the phone is not fully charging the battery and the charge level will not report accurately either. sometimes it's 60%+ sometimes its 80%+ then if i make a call it just dies. i have been through several batteries and roms, have not been able to resolve this yet.
its a shame too because i really like this phone.

Have you tried to get tech support?

[chrguillen]

hola,
tengo una dash y he regrasado a windows mobile 6 rom 1.27.412.1 y la bateria trabaja correctamente. he probado con wifi, mp3 y transferencia de archivos por bluetooth a la vez. con wm6.1 se apagaba en 10 minutos.

hi,
I have a dash and back again to wm6 rom 1.27.412.1 and the battery is working properly. I tested with wifi, mp3 & bluetooth file transfer at the same time. in wm6.1 my dash shutting down in 10 minutes. sorry for my english

best regards.

Christian.

[smart1]

ok i replaced oem battery with extended one and it seems it did the trick no more random shut off during wi-fi connetction or a2d streaming etc

[all steamed out]

Hi,

I have an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (I am in Canada on Fido). And I have been experiencing the crazy battery behaviour others describe.

I have ordered another Battery on ebay - with a 1050mv rating instead of the oem 960mv. I am hoping that will help.

I am getting situations where a fully charged battery will be down to 36% in 35 minutes of watching wmv and/or listening to music. This is without making a call during that period. Then when I plug it in to my work machine by USB it will begin the slow re-charge. But here is the odd thing, If I turn the phone off, to help speed up the re-charge - in a few seconds the light goes green and the phone shows as fully charged. We all know you can't go from 36% to 100% in the space of less than 10 seconds.

This supports others statements that the phone may be at fault rather than the battery. It is mis-reading the level of charge and probably ceasing charging when it has only a partial charge - probably repeatedly. It is this unusual thing of jumping to full charge if it is turned off that tell me something is really wrong here. I can also prompt that situation by turning off the phone in the Comm Manager, then turning it back on again. The light will usually jump from orange to green immediately. The last time it was at 42% before jumping instantly to 100%.

Since I have 3 different AC chargers and use two different PC's for USB charging, that can't be the problem.

This situation has survived several ROM updates, right from the original T-Mobile 5 1.11 to Mobile 6 1.22 and now with the Kavana 6.1 080408

And since I bought it as an unlocked phone - I am on my own.

Anybody have any ideas?

[theformula]

Hi,

I have an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (I am in Canada on Fido). And I have been experiencing the crazy battery behaviour others describe.

I have ordered another Battery on ebay - with a 1050mv rating instead of the oem 960mv. I am hoping that will help.

I am getting situations where a fully charged battery will be down to 36% in 35 minutes of watching wmv and/or listening to music. This is without making a call during that period. Then when I plug it in to my work machine by USB it will begin the slow re-charge. But here is the odd thing, If I turn the phone off, to help speed up the re-charge - in a few seconds the light goes green and the phone shows as fully charged. We all know you can't go from 36% to 100% in the space of less than 10 seconds.

This supports others statements that the phone may be at fault rather than the battery. It is mis-reading the level of charge and probably ceasing charging when it has only a partial charge - probably repeatedly. It is this unusual thing of jumping to full charge if it is turned off that tell me something is really wrong here. I can also prompt that situation by turning off the phone in the Comm Manager, then turning it back on again. The light will usually jump from orange to green immediately. The last time it was at 42% before jumping instantly to 100%.

Since I have 3 different AC chargers and use two different PC's for USB charging, that can't be the problem.

This situation has survived several ROM updates, right from the original T-Mobile 5 1.11 to Mobile 6 1.22 and now with the Kavana 6.1 080408

And since I bought it as an unlocked phone - I am on my own.

Anybody have any ideas?

From what I hear there are 2 variants of this phone, one manufactured in china and the other in taiwan. Can you guys check and see where yours originated? Mine is a t-mobile dash made in china.

[Rip Syntaxx]

It has always been my policy that "you get what you pay for"... So I figure if you look for cheap prices, you'll most likely get a cheap product. I was having the same problem with the battery on my Dash. It couldn't hold a full charge for longer than 5 hours (w/ minimal phone activity). I took it to a T-Mobile store and they exchanged it for a brand new battery. I began to use different charging methods than I previously used on my first battery. With Li-Ion batteries (batts), if they're charged while already maintaining a relatively sufficient amount of power...their ability to hold a charge will diminish over time. So I would let it drain until about 15-20%, then charge it.

It worked, but eventually I upgraded to an extended life batt from HTC (1550mAh). It's currently $49.95 from Wireless Ground (http://www.wirelessground.com/tdahtcexac.html). Pay for quality. It works great.

--Syntaxx-->>

[all steamed out]

From what I hear there are 2 variants of this phone, one manufactured in china and the other in taiwan. Can you guys check and see where yours originated? Mine is a t-mobile dash made in china.

Mine too - made in China. I hear that the Taiwan one is superior - at least in terms of its overclocking ability.

But there could be other quality control issues

[all steamed out]

It has always been my policy that "you get what you pay for"... So I figure if you look for cheap prices, you'll most likely get a cheap product. I was having the same problem with the battery on my Dash. It couldn't hold a full charge for longer than 5 hours (w/ minimal phone activity). I took it to a T-Mobile store and they exchanged it for a brand new battery. I began to use different charging methods than I previously used on my first battery. With Li-Ion batteries (batts), if they're charged while already maintaining a relatively sufficient amount of power...their ability to hold a charge will diminish over time. So I would let it drain until about 15-20%, then charge it.

It worked, but eventually I upgraded to an extended life batt from HTC (1550mAh). It's currently $49.95 from Wireless Ground (http://www.wirelessground.com/tdahtcexac.html). Pay for quality. It works great.

--Syntaxx-->>


Here's hoping,,,

I have an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (I am in Canada on Fido). And I have been experiencing the crazy battery behaviour I have read on other threads.

I have ordered another Battery on ebay - with a 1050mv rating instead of the oem 960mv. I am hoping that will help. I didn't see the one you show at 1550mv, although I knew about the 2400mv fat-boys

I am getting situations where a fully charged battery will be down to 36% in 35 minutes of watching wmv and/or listening to music. This is without making a call during that period. Then when I plug it in to my work machine by USB it will begin the slow re-charge. But here is the odd thing, If I turn the phone off, to help speed up the re-charge - in a few seconds the light goes green and the phone shows as fully charged. We all know you can't go from 36% to 100% in the space of less than 10 seconds.

This supports others statements that the phone may be at fault rather than the battery. It is mis-reading the level of charge and probably ceasing charging when it has only a partial charge - probably repeatedly. It is this unusual thing of jumping to full charge if it is turned off that tell me something is really wrong here. I can also prompt that situation by turning off the phone in the Comm Manager, then turning it back on again. The light will usually jump from orange to green immediately. The last time it was at 42% before jumping instantly to 100%.

Since I have 3 different AC chargers and use two different PC's for USB charging, that can't be the problem.

This situation has survived several ROM updates, right from the original T-Mobile 5 1.11 to Mobile 6 1.22 and now with the Kavana 6.1 080408

And since I bought it as an unlocked phone - I am on my own.

Anybody have any ideas?

[Rip Syntaxx]

Here's hoping,,,

I have an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (I am in Canada on Fido). And I have been experiencing the crazy battery behaviour I have read on other threads.

I have ordered another Battery on ebay - with a 1050mv rating instead of the oem 960mv. I am hoping that will help. I didn't see the one you show at 1550mv, although I knew about the 2400mv fat-boys

I am getting situations where a fully charged battery will be down to 36% in 35 minutes of watching wmv and/or listening to music. This is without making a call during that period. Then when I plug it in to my work machine by USB it will begin the slow re-charge. But here is the odd thing, If I turn the phone off, to help speed up the re-charge - in a few seconds the light goes green and the phone shows as fully charged. We all know you can't go from 36% to 100% in the space of less than 10 seconds.

This supports others statements that the phone may be at fault rather than the battery. It is mis-reading the level of charge and probably ceasing charging when it has only a partial charge - probably repeatedly. It is this unusual thing of jumping to full charge if it is turned off that tell me something is really wrong here. I can also prompt that situation by turning off the phone in the Comm Manager, then turning it back on again. The light will usually jump from orange to green immediately. The last time it was at 42% before jumping instantly to 100%.

Since I have 3 different AC chargers and use two different PC's for USB charging, that can't be the problem.

This situation has survived several ROM updates, right from the original T-Mobile 5 1.11 to Mobile 6 1.22 and now with the Kavana 6.1 080408

And since I bought it as an unlocked phone - I am on my own.

Anybody have any ideas?


I would definitely give the eBay batt you ordered a try. If you continue to experience problems with drainage and false charging, then you may want to evaluate the ROM you are using. I myself, still use the T-Mobile WinMo 6.0 ROM...but I've read in MANY threads that the cooked 6.1 ROMs devour batt charge. ...then again, in many threads I've read that those very same ROMs improve battery life. It's a toss up. But definitely try the new batt before jumping to any conclusions.

[maximcs]

I would definitely give the eBay batt you ordered a try. If you continue to experience problems with drainage and false charging, then you may want to evaluate the ROM you are using. I myself, still use the T-Mobile WinMo 6.0 ROM...but I've read in MANY threads that the cooked 6.1 ROMs devour batt charge. ...then again, in many threads I've read that those very same ROMs improve battery life. It's a toss up. But definitely try the new batt before jumping to any conclusions.

I had the same issue with original HTC 6.0 ROM and OEM battery on my unbranded HTC-620. Paid $10 for eBay non OEM and got 2 full days, Flashed the Phone with Ricks v7 6.1 Rom and it holds the charge even better! I have 3 HTC 620 Phones, one unbranded, and two T-Mobiles. I have replaced batteries on all of them, all of them are working good now.

[bountyman334]

So I Guess It Is The battery then because am waitin till mines come in


And Another question do anybody know what is STK services is ...its in the accessibility... well under it/.... does anybody know...???

[all steamed out]

I would definitely give the eBay batt you ordered a try. If you continue to experience problems with drainage and false charging, then you may want to evaluate the ROM you are using. I myself, still use the T-Mobile WinMo 6.0 ROM...but I've read in MANY threads that the cooked 6.1 ROMs devour batt charge. ...then again, in many threads I've read that those very same ROMs improve battery life. It's a toss up. But definitely try the new batt before jumping to any conclusions.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will give it a try. Actually today, I set the phone running videos for about half an hour and ran it down from a reading of 100% (probably not) down to 26%. I then connected it to my pc and have left it. I am avoiding touching it other than to take a read of the charge level. Using USB (2.0 powered port) is has moved from 25% to 75% in 4 1/2 hours. That is what should happen, not go to 100% in a few seconds. I believe there is a linkage between shutting the phone down while it is charging then re-booting it. This may cause some element of the circuitry to take a false reading on the state of charge. Of course the micro chip in the battery could be the culprit as well. I will try loading it by running videos and see how well it holds a charge and see if (by leaving it alone and letting it slow charge on its own) overcomes this issue. Supposedly you should be able to get up to 8 hours of WMV use with it.

[smart1]

From what I hear there are 2 variants of this phone, one manufactured in china and the other in taiwan. Can you guys check and see where yours originated? Mine is a t-mobile dash made in china.

made in china but new battery did the job

[nicholasb]

I'm sick and tired of my battery dying every few hours, its time to replace the swollen worn out factory one and get something that actually will last all day.

I'm looking for a new one thats at least 1200mAH and have found a few on the internets for around $50. Has anyone found a better deal out there for a decent battery that doesn't require a new back?


Thanks,
Nick

[jdoggraz]

Try to look on ebay for one, you might find some nice and cheaper ones on there.

[littleclown]

cellularfactory.com
I already pay for battery - 14-15 bugs.
I don't know but I recieve 2 batteries :).
In ebay there are batteries on 5-6 bugs - no joke, no lie.
This is actual price of batteries :).

[nicholasb]

Awesome, I will check these out! Thank you!

[nicholasb]

ones found on that site and ebay are not up to par with what I'm looking for.. Most/all seem to be the stock 960mAH battery which honestly completely sucks. Looks like i'll be spending about $50 on a new battery..

[jdoggraz]

Oh ok thats good.

[Rip Syntaxx]

ones found on that site and ebay are not up to par with what I'm looking for.. Most/all seem to be the stock 960mAH battery which honestly completely sucks. Looks like i'll be spending about $50 on a new battery..

I got my 1550 mAh from WirelessGround for $49.95. Right now they are still running this special. Here's the website: http://www.wirelessground.com/htctda15exba.html. The battery works great, compared to the stock battery.

[nicholasb]

I got my 1550 mAh from WirelessGround for $49.95. Right now they are still running this special. Here's the website: http://www.wirelessground.com/htctda15exba.html. The battery works great, compared to the stock battery.
I'm curious how far the new back panel sticks out.. Is it noticable? Does it make the phone awkward?


Thanks,
Nick

[Rip Syntaxx]

I'm curious how far the new back panel sticks out.. Is it noticable? Does it make the phone awkward?


Thanks,
Nick

It sticks out maybe 1/2 a centimeter further than the original battery door. I can still use it with my old carrying case (but it depends on the case you have). I actually like the added "bulk" the extended battery gives the phone. It makes it look like there's more to the phone than "meets the eye". lol

[liquidsilver]

I have one of the extended batteries (2800maH) on the Tilt. On the downside, the panel sticks out an additional 9/32 of an inch. On the upside, when you lay the phone down, the camera lense cannot contact the surface at all.

With the GPS, BT, WiFi, and Cellular radios, an extended battery is required. I enjoy the extra time. I use my phone with Tmo and so run on the GPRS network. Unless I'm watching a movie or using the GPS for hours, I can easily get a full day. I use a rapid charger in my car to get around the GPS consumption.

[nicholasb]

It sticks out maybe 1/2 a centimeter further than the original battery door. I can still use it with my old carrying case (but it depends on the case you have). I actually like the added "bulk" the extended battery gives the phone. It makes it look like there's more to the phone than "meets the eye". lol
Cool, i don't use a case at all.. I find them annoying with this phone.. Actually i find them annoying in general :)

Thats exactly the battery i've been looking for at a reasonable price to boot! Thanks!

[nicholasb]

Oh noez.. Its out of stock.. dang!!!

[Rip Syntaxx]

Oh noez.. Its out of stock.. dang!!!

That sucketh! I initially wanted the 2400 mAh battery from WirelessGround, but it was out-of-stock...so I settled for the 1550 mAh (which I grew to enjoy). How ironic.

[jdoggraz]

Haha, thats cool, I dont know but the original battery lasts me a good time. Plus I always carry a backup in my backpack so I guess its not to bad.

[nicholasb]

Found a great deal!

http://www.etechtronics.com/product.php?productid=26241

T-Mobile Dash Li-ion Battery 2100mAh Black (Extra High Capacity) (35H00080-00M) w/ back cover

$38 /w shipping

[jdoggraz]

That is not a bad deal at all man...

[littleclown]

Yes this is not so expensive, but in this price you will have 6 normal batteries...
And maybe you know this will not expand your time without charging double. I think If now you have 3 days, you will have 4.5 days. Is this Day and half so important?

I have computer near to me every fuckin minute, because I am IT Specialist, and that is my job. But I think most every normal guy in modern world spent more than one hour on PC - am I right? Just put some USB cable in to your phone every time you use PC and this will make your phone always charged. This expensive battery will be functional in 8-10 mounths. And then you must buy another, for another 40$.

[jdoggraz]

Yah thats true, also the bulk the battery adds to the phone makes it look sort of ugly you know.

[nicholasb]

I can totally see your point, I too am an IT professional and am on a computer all day. Most of the time with my phone plugged into my usb cable (which may have somewhat caused the battery to fail and become pregnant).

But for the price, i feel its totally worth it. The shoddy 960mAH stock battery is pretty much worthless when you are using wifi/bluetooth/edge. And even in the batteries prime, I was lucky if it lasted a day.

I sort of hope that it expires after 8-10 months and I hope I keep my 12mo warrenty info somehwere I can find it... IMO its well worth the $40 compared to $50 for half the mAH...

[Rip Syntaxx]

I can totally see your point, I too am an IT professional and am on a computer all day. Most of the time with my phone plugged into my usb cable (which may have somewhat caused the battery to fail and become pregnant).

But for the price, i feel its totally worth it. The shoddy 960mAH stock battery is pretty much worthless when you are using wifi/bluetooth/edge. And even in the batteries prime, I was lucky if it lasted a day.

I sort of hope that it expires after 8-10 months and I hope I keep my 12mo warrenty info somehwere I can find it... IMO its well worth the $40 compared to $50 for half the mAH...

It was always my understanding that if you constantly charge your Li-Ion batt (without letting the power drain to the minimum) it'll begin to lose the ability to hold a charge. I've noticed this with my stock batt. I used to always keep it charged when I could access a USB or a wall socket, but after a while my phone wouldn't stay charged for 5 hours. I got a replacement stock batt and would let it drain to about 10% before charging--this produced a much stronger ability to hold a charge. Now I use that same method with my 1550mAh extended batt.

[Se7eN43]

i wish this info was posted a couple of weeks ago before i spent $90 on a 2400mAh from mugen power. didnt know it would be a thicker battery meaning a bulkier back end. now im not sure if i should auction it off or just keep it for the rare needful occasions. oh well, you live and you learn.

[funkydude101]

wow. with that you could probably run WiFi all day long and still have enough left over.

[nicholasb]

wow. with that you could probably run WiFi all day long and still have enough left over.

Thats the plan! :D

[littleclown]

Haha. I don't need Wi-Fi all day.
And if my battery goes to hell with often charging... I will buy another for 5-10 bugs.

Can anybody post a picture with bigger battery?

I believe warranty don't include the battery.

[pfunkside]

Here ya go.

http://www.jamerican.net/?p=33

[LiverpoolFCfan]

Having had stock T-Mobile USA ROMs for past year on Dash I got used to having battery down to approx 60% at end of the day. Charge overnight, then use for day - always approx 60% charged at end of day. Didn't make much difference between WM5 and WM6.

I have Ricky's V18 ROM on phone for past couple of weeks, and I am amazed. I picked up my phone this morning - it has 62% charge, having not been charged (or sync'ed) for 48 hours.

Has Microsoft made this difference in Wm 6.1 ? If so congrats to them for efficiency improvements.

Or, is there something in the T-Mobile ROM that was sucking the life out of the phone ?

I'd love to hear your experiences/opinions.

[skisteven1]

Having had stock T-Mobile USA ROMs for past year on Dash I got used to having battery down to approx 60% at end of the day. Charge overnight, then use for day - always approx 60% charged at end of day. Didn't make much difference between WM5 and WM6.

I have Ricky's V18 ROM on phone for past couple of weeks, and I am amazed. I picked up my phone this morning - it has 62% charge, having not been charged (or sync'ed) for 48 hours.

Has Microsoft made this difference in Wm 6.1 ? If so congrats to them for efficiency improvements.

Or, is there something in the T-Mobile ROM that was sucking the life out of the phone ?

I'd love to hear your experiences/opinions.

I think it's probably the battery meter. In using a kavana ROM, I found that it will drain from 20% to 2% in a matter of minutes, even if you're not doing anything with it.

That's one of the "gotchas" with beta software (6.1 i mean), I suppose. Or maybe it's just me and nobody else is experiencing that...

[Rip Syntaxx]

I think it's probably the battery meter. In using a kavana ROM, I found that it will drain from 20% to 2% in a matter of minutes, even if you're not doing anything with it.

That's one of the "gotchas" with beta software (6.1 i mean), I suppose. Or maybe it's just me and nobody else is experiencing that...

My battery life was WONDERFUL until I overclocked it from 200mhz to 240mhz. The batt life is okay...but not as good as before.

[ghostwheel]

I switched from WM5 to WM 6.1, and my battery life seems worse. Before, I had no problem going for 2 days without recharging on light use, but now I get to 30% sometimes in the 2nd day.
What version of 6.1 are you using? I'm using Ricky's v6.

[Mikey1022]

Guys, you have to remember, this is a quicker rom. With that said it will use more battery.
Plus make sure you dont have extra programs running in the background. (startup) that you dont need.

[Profezza]

Having had 3 dashes, and having swapped batteries once between a couple of them, and many ROM switches and various sustained Overclockings, I'd say the performance varies most from battery to battery. Assume overclocking can hurt battery life slightly by the percent that you are OC'ed. OS ROMs seem to make little difference, as fast ones get their job done quicker. I suspect newer radio images will help the most, software-wise, with minor improvements in tower connection timing.

Also, Mikey has a very good idea about keeping the startup tasks to a minimum. There is no way to boot in safemode on a Smartphone reliably, and background tasks make the experience less fast, and thus causes you to spend more time with the screen on for the same foreground tasks, aside from the drain they cause themselves.

[Profezza]

... it will drain from 20% to 2% in a matter of minutes, even if you're not doing anything with it...

PArt of the nature of a Lithium based batter is very quick charging (and discharging at "the bottom". Not only will it go from 20 to 2 quickly, but it can go from 2 to 50% much more quickly than it will go from 50 to 98. Some battery meters compensate for this, some don't wich is worse htan if they would all act consistent.

[NRGZ28]

I have to agree it depends A LOT on the battery and most of it on the age of the battery. My old DASH would drain a lot quicker. A few days ago I got a brand new Dash and the battery doesnt go past 80% after a full day of work (push email, wifi, browsing etc). My old dash would be at about 50% at the end of the day. So... if you want more battery life and yours is a little older, just get a new battery! :)

[LiverpoolFCfan]

Everyone seems to be reading that I am bitching about battery life. It is completely the opposite. I am amazed with it !

My one year old Dash and one year old battery used to be down to 60% after a day of use (7am-11pm). If I forgot to charge overnight it would die before 11pm the following night unless recharged.

It is now giving me two full days (7am-7am two days later) before it is down to 60%. This morning it is at 42% after 72 hours without a charge or a sync.

At this level the battery life is close to what I would expect of a regular non-smartphone.

I was asking peoples opinion as to whether this improvement is all down to better efficiency in the OS - or is it down to the removal of something in the T-Mobile branded versions of the older OS's that were sucking up battery.

[littleclown]

First of all I think that the faster ROM use less battery... Why?
I will give some examples: Xp is faster than Vista. Vista use more memory, procesor, etc.

Other opinion - I think battery meter in WM somehow teach itself when you use your phone and makes full charge cycles - 100%-0% and then charges to 100%. In this case maybe WM can make meter more correct and percent constantly follow in time.

I think one Dash battery works fine about 8-10 months.
Not cool, but true.
One normal battery costs about $5-$6, no big deal.

[Bupahs]

First thing I do when I buy a new device is buy an extended battery. My Dash will last 3 days without a charge and I am one heavy user. I use the Slim Extended Battery (1300mAh) which does not require a new battery door. I also have a 2100mAh slim coming from Japan, non-oem but so far I've never had an issue with those batteries.

[hardyr1]

Rakicomputers (http://stores.ebay.com/Rakicomputers) an ebay seller, is selling brand new replacement parts(T-mobile Brand)for your Excalibur. This is the complete shell casing minus the battery door, not a bad deal for $27.95 shipped to your door. This seller has 164 of these ready to go.

I thought this would be some good info considering these cases go for $80.00+ and It's not a bad future investment, I purchased my Excalibur used and the screen was the only part that was flawless so I'm in need of a face lift. I just ordered one and I'll posted quality results when it arrives.

Click here for case listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360011196668&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123)

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3752/92221hr4.jpg

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9830/92781oj8.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4134/92ab1bh1.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3238/924b1du0.jpg

[Mysterious Stranger]

That's not actually that cheap. Any reason you're plugging them?
They are used items taken off scrapped phones and may have wear.

Other sellers do genuine casings inc battery cover for around $25 inc. shipping from China. Kinda pot luck which operator logo you get but they also include tools.

Do a search people!

M.S

[megaxp]

why pay 25 or more dollars when you can buy a new one.... you can get one over ebay for 120-150 dollars.. you migtht say... that i am loaded.... but i am not..... but imagine the work hours you need to disasseble and asseble your current phone and as you have no previous experience your end result want be the desired one.... and you propably scrab the phone.... as a whole


:D:D:D:p

[jdoggraz]

Yah true but where would you find a new one for 120-150? Cause all the new ones I had seen on ebay where about 200.00 dollars. So it would be cheaper to replace it. A lot cheaper.

[sf777cop]

Yah true but where would you find a new one for 120-150? Cause all the new ones I had seen on ebay where about 200.00 dollars. So it would be cheaper to replace it. A lot cheaper.

I found em there for as little as $100 and you go and meet the person and see the phone before you buy it (Atlanta Ga craigslist) (sorry used not new)

[megaxp]

i bought mine for a a $100 with two bantteries charger and a leather case...BRAND NEW......... On ebay where else....

[jdoggraz]

Then you got lucky for sure, is it new or refurbished condition?

[hardyr1]

That's not actually that cheap. Any reason you're plugging them?
They are used items taken off scrapped phones and may have wear.

Other sellers do genuine casings inc battery cover for around $25 inc. shipping from China. Kinda pot luck which operator logo you get but they also include tools.

Do a search people!

M.S


We'll I just purchased it along with the OEM battery cover and tool set: $38.39 shipped. This is pretty cheap to me. The parts are brand new, and if not, Im covered for a full refund.

[funkydude101]

Yeah these cases aren't used I don't think.


I was thinking about the same thing and this price is pretty cheap as far as replacement housing for this phone is concerned.

Let me know if it comes with those little rubber plugs in the back casing. Because I've lost one.

[djquick]

I traded my Sidekick 3 for my Dash from someone off craigslist so in reality, mine was free...lol.

[hardyr1]

why pay 25 or more dollars when you can buy a new one.... you can get one over ebay for 120-150 dollars.. you might say... that i am loaded.... but i am not..... but imagine the work hours you need to disasseble and asseble your current phone and as you have no previous experience your end result want be the desired one.... and you propably scrab the phone.... as a whole


:D:D:D:p

To make a statement like this in a developers forum makes no sense. Others have called me crazy to put in the time it has taken me to flash different roms, read through pages of forum posts, along with editing the registry with no experience, but I have and my phone isn't ruined.

As far as disassembly goes, I'm pretty good with my hands, I'll post before and after pictures when I'm done.

[megaxp]

well we all are in this forum not to improve or maintain the hardware of any phone. We are here in to help each other as well inportant people like kavana and rikey to improve the functionality of certain phones given a certain Hardware. The hardware function has to do with with the phone manufucturers. The software function can be complement with the effort of the bright people in this forum...

to jdoggraz yes i got my phone brand new with wrapers two batteries chargers and a leather case and yes it cost me 100 dollars..

[littleclown]

dudes. i do not see any point in this topic ;). if you wont to buy part - go. if you wont to buy new phone - go. i think when some phone have hardware problems there is a good chance to buy new model. :). i think when the phone is life is about two years without any problems you just need to sell IT for 50 bugs and buy new phone for 200. 150 bugs per two years for phones are not too much i think. this is about 6 dollars per month.

[ralf89]

About a week now, from wm6 upgrading to the amazing WM61_Kavana_Rickys_v23 No Opera, my battery went down from 3.5days to about 2days. My s620 is about a year old you think buying a new battery will help to last longer?

anyone
thanks in advance :)

[Rip Syntaxx]

About a week now, from wm6 upgrading to the amazing WM61_Kavana_Rickys_v23 No Opera, my battery went down from 3.5days to about 2days. My s620 is about a year old you think buying a new battery will help to last longer?

anyone
thanks in advance :)

From what I've heard, a stock Li-Ion batt should last you from 8-12 months. You've already said that you've had your Dash a year, so maybe a new battery isn't such a bad idea. You can possibly get one for free from your local T-Mobile Store. I've told them that my batt won't hold a charge, and they gave me a brand new one for the freeskee...

[lukybandit]

Hello,

I just got Rogers to replace my phone as I had some issues with my phone in regards to reception, phone freezing up and having issues with the battery I have.

Unfortunately, I can't find the original battery. I'm unsure if Rogers is able to tell if I replaced my battery or not. I hope not.

I bought an ebay battery a while ago which has lasted me 4-5 months because the original battery died in 5-6 months as well. Now they said incase they find no hardware fault with this phone, they would bill me. Is it important that I send back the "original battery" or the e-bay "battery is just as good" - by the way it looks ditto like the original battery.

These are the battery specifics:

Simplo
Product of China
Model EXCA160
3.7 VDC - 960mAh

S/N: KERA16A3002474
P/N:35H00080-00M


By the way, my phone is Made in Taiwan and it says EXCA100. Could you please tell me if the battery says EXCA100 as well for the people that have the Taiwanese version.

Please confirm this. I would appreciate your help, Thanks.

Can someone tell me if they have the same specifications? Let me know, Thanks..

[outerdepth]

My S/N # is different than, yours otherwise. Everything else is identical.

Yours:

S/N: KERA16A3002474
P/N:35H00080-00M

Mine:

S/N: KERA26BF001292

I doubt that it matters. It's probably a region thing anyway. I wouldn't worry about the different serial numbers, but don't quote me on that.:rolleyes:
Hello,

I just got Rogers to replace my phone as I had some issues with my phone in regards to reception, phone freezing up and having issues with the battery I have.

Unfortunately, I can't find the original battery. I'm unsure if Rogers is able to tell if I replaced my battery or not. I hope not.

I bought an ebay battery a while ago which has lasted me 4-5 months because the original battery died in 5-6 months as well. Now they said incase they find no hardware fault with this phone, they would bill me. Is it important that I send back the "original battery" or the e-bay "battery is just as good" - by the way it looks ditto like the original battery.

These are the battery specifics:

Simplo
Product of China
Model EXCA160
3.7 VDC - 960mAh

S/N: KERA16A3002474
P/N:35H00080-00M


By the way, my phone is Made in Taiwan and it says EXCA100. Could you please tell me if the battery says EXCA100 as well for the people that have the Taiwanese version.

Please confirm this. I would appreciate your help, Thanks.

Can someone tell me if they have the same specifications? Let me know, Thanks..

[jdoggraz]

Yah I have the same battery that should be the stock battery I believe...

[lukybandit]

My S/N # is different than, yours otherwise. Everything else is identical.

Yours:

S/N: KERA16A3002474
P/N:35H00080-00M

Mine:

S/N: KERA26BF001292

I doubt that it matters. It's probably a region thing anyway. I wouldn't worry about the different serial numbers, but don't quote me on that.:rolleyes:

hmm.. Do your serial numbers inside the phone match...where it says your IMEI number. Does your P/N and your S/N match with your battery? Also, Does it say EXCA100 on the phone and EXCA160 on the battery?

[lukybandit]

Yah I have the same battery that should be the stock battery I believe...

Yeah, it looks ditto to the original battery but I just can't find the original battery. I'm worried if they are going to be like you replaced the battery so there was no faults to begin with etc?

[lukybandit]

By the way, It does not matter if the phone is CID/SIM Unlocked right from IMEI? Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

[lukybandit]

Anyone? :)

[hardyr1]

Yeah these cases aren't used I don't think.


I was thinking about the same thing and this price is pretty cheap as far as replacement housing for this phone is concerned.

Let me know if it comes with those little rubber plugs in the back casing. Because I've lost one.

Just finished swapping out the cases and all I can say is WOW!! Takes about an hour and no the case did not come with the rubber plugs. I have no pictures but will be posting the video tonight.

[vi3tboi77]

my battery only last a day? can u tell me y? yea sometimes i listen to songs off my phone but thats it. not long or anything

[outerdepth]

Yeah, the problem is that the battery SUCKS.

I have had my Dash for a couple years now. I got a new battery like 2 months ago. It was a double capacity battery. Now, if I just use my phone like a phone, I can go 4-5 days without recharging. Before was like a day at best. If I use my phone for music or games and talking, I can get like almost a full day of use out of it. Come on now, it is really small and you can only suck so much juice out of that battery, so if you wanna listen to music a lot and surf the net, get a car charger or the double sized battery. Trust me these are necessary for hardcore use. Listening to music if even for like a couple of hours, is hardcore usage on one of these phones.

BUY AN EXTRA CAPACITY BATTERY!!!
you'll be glad you did. search ebay,i got mine for 25 bucks plus shipping.

[Rip Syntaxx]

Yeah, the problem is that the battery SUCKS.

I have had my Dash for a couple years now. I got a new battery like 2 months ago. It was a double capacity battery. Now, if I just use my phone like a phone, I can go 4-5 days without recharging. Before was like a day at best. If I use my phone for music or games and talking, I can get like almost a full day of use out of it. Come on now, it is really small and you can only suck so much juice out of that battery, so if you wanna listen to music a lot and surf the net, get a car charger or the double sized battery. Trust me these are necessary for hardcore use. Listening to music if even for like a couple of hours, is hardcore usage on one of these phones.

BUY AN EXTRA CAPACITY BATTERY!!!
you'll be glad you did. search ebay,i got mine for 25 bucks plus shipping.

Amen, brother!!! lol I had to shell out for a 1550mAh extended life battery. I do wayyy too much on a daily basis to withstand a 960mAh batt!

[lukybandit]

Hey Syntaxx,

Does it still fit properly in the regular case or you have to get a different battery door so the battery protrudes? If not, then wicked. :)

P.S: My Battery SUCKS TOO :@ - Sick & Tired of charging it at the end of the day, mine lasts half a day to be honest, a lil more than half...i go to university at 12, by the time im back, like 10 hours or so its almost dead (if not fully charged, if fully charged, till approx.12 am..so yeah it sucks. and yeah this is my 2nd battery that i got off ebay and it's the oem one.

[Rip Syntaxx]

Hey Syntaxx,

Does it still fit properly in the regular case or you have to get a different battery door so the battery protrudes? If not, then wicked. :)

P.S: My Battery SUCKS TOO :@ - Sick & Tired of charging it at the end of the day, mine lasts half a day to be honest, a lil more than half...i go to university at 12, by the time im back, like 10 hours or so its almost dead (if not fully charged, if fully charged, till approx.12 am..so yeah it sucks. and yeah this is my 2nd battery that i got off ebay and it's the oem one.

Mine came with a wider battery door... So yeah, it's a tad thicker than the original--but it still fits my old battery case! Just a little snug...lol They do have "slim" extended-life batteries, but I didn't know about them when I got mine. You should check into that. I saw one which was 1300-something mAh, but it fit the original battery door! I wish I had known about it sooner...

[killswitch]

I was thinking about maybe purchasing this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320255974341
or should I just go with the http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-S620-T-Mobile-Dash-2200mAh-Li-Ion-Extended-Battery_W0QQitemZ320254679148QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20 336QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZ p1638Q2em118Q2el1247

I mean will there be a dramatic difference between the 1600mAh and the 2200mAh?

[ghostwheel]

On WM5, my phone would easily last 2-3 days in regular use. After having switched to WM6.1 it lasts a bit more over a day under light use.

I somehow suspect that the problem is with charging. For example, today I was charging the phone. It was slowly creeping up 25%...26%..27%...
then the charge suddenly jumped to 92%.
I had other cases where I put my phone to charge, and 30 minutes later, led was green, charge was 100%. But it was a fake charge... lasting only an hour or so.

When I do manage to charge my phone properly, it does last for a long time. But I'm not sure how to do that. I suspect WM6.1 has problems with proper charge level calculation.

[Nolalove06]

I bought the 2200mAh off ebay, like $20. TOTALLY worth it, especially since I've gotten all kinds of new things with the 6.1 I can go about 2 days without having to recharge. VERY awesome, I also text and talk A LOT, like prolly 4k min a month and about 1k text. so, the bat life is way good :)

[Rip Syntaxx]

In the xda-developers store there's a Seidio 1500mAh SLIM extended-life battery. It should fit the regular-sized battery door and still provide the juice of an extended-life battery.