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nuttyphilt
14th February 2008, 01:24 PM
Tried it on my Touch Dual and it works pretty well:

http://htcinsider.blogspot.com/2008/02/opera-v9-direct-from-3gsm.html

Credit to Mr HTC Insider.

fuzzvirus
14th February 2008, 01:33 PM
thnaks for the info try on my hermes

trojan9x
14th February 2008, 01:38 PM
can someone possible upload it to rapidshare.com instead of .de?

Thanks in advance

minz215
14th February 2008, 01:43 PM
can someone possible upload it to rapidshare.com instead of .de?

Thanks in advance

Heres the direct rapidshare.com link http://rapidshare.com/files/91760888/opera9beta.zip

rhov23
14th February 2008, 01:49 PM
Obviously beta, very good ui!

minz215
14th February 2008, 01:53 PM
The feel of the program is very good. Cant wait until the release of 9.5.

TacoLoco
14th February 2008, 01:55 PM
a bit slow but feels great and the ui rocks too! with double tap on the screen you can zoom in or out!

flykthewiz
14th February 2008, 02:12 PM
love it - v9.5 should be good. I don't think it is slow

but this version seems to be for vga screens - all of the controls are huge. or is that just me?

LamyJones
14th February 2008, 02:19 PM
how do you uninstall? ):

nuttyphilt
14th February 2008, 02:21 PM
The icons are big for me too.

Also can't see it in 'Remove Programs' - oh dear!

npw
14th February 2008, 02:31 PM
The icons do appear to be in vga but if you press and hold on a webpage you can select to switch to landscape and all the buttons are visible - settings, transfers etc. I find it very useable even with the big icons as it automatically returns to fullscreen thereby hiding all icons.

Westie277
14th February 2008, 02:32 PM
its rubish if u ask me there is no uninstall and im now having to re flash my hermes to stop opera from opening every .cab i put on my phone!
i can understand it a beta but ive never had this problem with other opera software...

LamyJones
14th February 2008, 02:39 PM
can anyone figure out a way to uninstall this. i don't want to hard rest my htc touch

E_Shinobi
14th February 2008, 02:52 PM
Delete the programm folder, shortcuts and registry data

8 MB for installation needed^^. I'm trying storage card...

StarMonkee
14th February 2008, 02:59 PM
I told it to install to the storage card, but it looks like it's installed it in program memory anyway :(

E_Shinobi
14th February 2008, 03:02 PM
I told it to install to the storage card, but it looks like it's installed it in program memory anyway :(

yep same here...

after testing it for about 10 minutes i can say:

1. UI is well made, tabbed browsing is great
2. it's not as responsive and fast as opera mini which is kind of sad
3. as described it seems to be vor vga only, so it looks kinda odd...
4. did you try logging in into some site? it will allways put a blank in between two letters. i can't log in into anything with this browser

still, better than netfront. then again, i think i'll stick to opera mini 4

StarMonkee
14th February 2008, 03:04 PM
Plus it's taken over as the default browser :(

kevinniven
14th February 2008, 03:10 PM
Seems to run very slow! UI is very bad. This looks like it has a long way to go:(

kevinniven
14th February 2008, 03:11 PM
where did you find this beta?

therealholg
14th February 2008, 03:11 PM
overwrite the original with the attached skinfile in \Application Data\Opera9\skin

... there are surely some glitches, since i just shrunk the files in 50% of their size with irfanview

tko
14th February 2008, 03:23 PM
thx for the changedicons!

works for me on my comet

kevinniven
14th February 2008, 03:29 PM
My icons are still the same size. any ideas?

pctuner
14th February 2008, 03:33 PM
yup.. icons are too large and i dunno how to install in my storage card. it's taking 9 mb of my device!! Woohoo!

ramontrotman
14th February 2008, 03:44 PM
as it stands....netfront 3.5 is the best so far

therealholg
14th February 2008, 04:04 PM
as it stands....netfront 3.5 is the best so far

have you tried my icons located in post #20? be sure Opera is closed, when you copy them to your device.

In my oppinion no other browser can beat this version, even in the beta.

stpete111
14th February 2008, 04:21 PM
as it stands....netfront 3.5 is the best so far

IMHO, Netfront's UI is nice and fluid, but, it continually freezes my Tilt, and half the time won't load pages at all. It has good potential, but in its current state, it's completely unusable for me.

bombzhome
14th February 2008, 04:23 PM
I like how this browser views pages but it takes entirely too long to render them.

lmjabreu
14th February 2008, 04:45 PM
This one allows you to uninstall the app, replaced the images by therealholg (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=275575)'s.

http://rapidshare.com/files/91807266/opera9betaqvga.zip.html
(http://rapidshare.com/files/91805800/opera9betaqvga.zip)

daverage
14th February 2008, 04:49 PM
Download is dead ?

nonegiven
14th February 2008, 05:02 PM
This one allows you to uninstall the app, replaced the images by therealholg (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=275575)'s.

http://rapidshare.com/files/91807266/opera9betaqvga.zip.html
(http://rapidshare.com/files/91805800/opera9betaqvga.zip)
dead download link

neilson
14th February 2008, 05:04 PM
Download is dead ?
Yeah really, it says that the Download was deleted.

EDIT: Ok, downloading now....

lmjabreu
14th February 2008, 05:10 PM
Yeah really, it says that the Download was deleted.

I uploaded the wrong files, deleted it, uploaded the right one and updated the post.

The download isn't dead.

ramontrotman
14th February 2008, 05:10 PM
the new skin is alot better. but the browser itself will not display images on my myspace home page or any other myspace page. it displays all images before i log in....its weird.

lmjabreu
14th February 2008, 05:11 PM
Yeah really, it says that the Download was deleted.

I uploaded the wrong file, deleted it, uploaded the right one and updated the post.

The download isn't dead.

stpete111
14th February 2008, 05:11 PM
I noticed that there is no longer a setting for identifying the device as a Mobile Device or Desktop Computer. Think it's just hardcoded to Desktop now?

geedubya15
14th February 2008, 05:12 PM
I tried to install this, but did not work. On device and stoage card i kept getting unsuccessful install errors. Would this work on windows mobile 5, which is what im running...PPC-6700.
Maybe there is another method to install?

kevinniven
14th February 2008, 05:13 PM
Link is still dead

neilson
14th February 2008, 05:14 PM
Correction: Link still shows as a deleted file.

stpete111
14th February 2008, 05:14 PM
Freezes my Tilt anytime I try to go to a page that is more than some basic text. POS. Uninstalling now.

chrisd1a1
14th February 2008, 05:14 PM
I uploaded the wrong file, deleted it, uploaded the right one and updated the post.

The download isn't dead.

link is still dead

dodba
14th February 2008, 05:15 PM
The icons imo are big because thumbs are big! I think that is the correct dimension. great UI and with smart zoom, Icons sweep away so I like it.

the only big one question is:
Is this just another proxied browser like opera mini? The browser render the page only after the page is gone through the opera "funnel-server"?, or I go directly to the web page?
Specifically, Opera knows how much I like bigbootybutt.com or my privacy is preserved?
;-)

ogabriel
14th February 2008, 05:19 PM
so i ahve one HTC with brazilian portuguese rom. Installed opera (device and memory card) and the programas doesnt appear... where i find it?

neilson
14th February 2008, 05:27 PM
I uploaded the wrong file, deleted it, uploaded the right one and updated the post.

The download isn't dead.
http://rapidshare.com/files/91805800/opera9betaqvga.zip

^It's still dead....

rvashi
14th February 2008, 05:36 PM
The big icons aren't that much for a problem...I mean, hopefully the Home icon is the last one and we're not missing any icons on the right side. Becuse I mean for the most part, the icons aren't even on the screen when you're browsing.

As far as Netfront goes, I like the scrolling in this much better than Netfront. As webpages seem to load a lot faster here. It also has a password manager which I don't think netfront has.

daverage
14th February 2008, 05:40 PM
But with the big icons you can't get to the settings button!!

neilson
14th February 2008, 05:42 PM
So which download do we with the QVGA Screens go for?

rtakeo
14th February 2008, 05:46 PM
so i ahve one HTC with brazilian portuguese rom. Installed opera (device and memory card) and the programas doesnt appear... where i find it?

delete pelo file explorer>> aplications date.. do device e os icones do program pelo windows>start menu>programs> delete os icones

no devdie>windows> procure pelo opera e pelo widgets e os delete..

de resto é isso mesmo

rvashi
14th February 2008, 05:47 PM
But with the big icons you can't get to the settings button!!

I don't know if any of you already tried this but do this:

View it in landscape mode and the Up arrow icon will be visible...that's where the Settings option is. That looks way better too.

spooky_osc
14th February 2008, 06:00 PM
I tried to install this, but did not work. On device and stoage card i kept getting unsuccessful install errors. Would this work on windows mobile 5, which is what im running...PPC-6700.
Maybe there is another method to install?

Same with me running WM5 on a Trinity. But, reading the feedback of the others, maybe I should not worry to much about the unsuccessful install errors...

therealholg
14th February 2008, 06:31 PM
here is the qvga uninstallable cab file ... again some glitches. Splashscreen won't work and assigning widgets from files. but it's ok for me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/91830612/Opera9_331_QVGASkin.cab.html

12ka4
14th February 2008, 06:51 PM
How to remove it completely?

RacerII
14th February 2008, 07:02 PM
here is the qvga uninstallable cab file ... again some glitches. Splashscreen won't work and assigning widgets from files. but it's ok for me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/91830612/Opera9_331_QVGASkin.cab.html

Works great on my kaiser!

ramontrotman
14th February 2008, 07:06 PM
I noticed that there is no longer a setting for identifying the device as a Mobile Device or Desktop Computer. Think it's just hardcoded to Desktop now?

nah i think its hardcoded to mobile. when i go to facebook or myspace i get the mobile versions

flykthewiz
14th February 2008, 07:22 PM
nah i think its hardcoded to mobile. when i go to facebook or myspace i get the mobile versions

yep - mobile. bbc.co.uk goes to the mobile page as does google

h4waii
14th February 2008, 07:33 PM
Apprently 9.5 Beta is up according to this xda thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368881

http://rapidshare.com/files/91822607/Opera_Mobile_9.5_Beta.cab.html

therealholg
14th February 2008, 07:42 PM
it's the same version as in this thread


and here are the ua strings ... it calls itself "opera mobile". but i think ua string will be changed until final release.

HTTP_USER_AGENT: Opera/9.0 (Microsoft Windows; PPC; Opera Mobile/331; U; en)
_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']: 82.113.121.1
_SERVER['REMOTE_PORT']: 62716

_SERVER['HTTP_UA_PIXELS']:
header['UA-pixels']:

Alle Header:
User-Agent: Opera/9.0 (Microsoft Windows; PPC; Opera Mobile/331; U; en)
Host: lesswire.info
Accept: text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: en
Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1, utf-8, utf-16, *;q=0.1
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip, x-gzip, identity, *;q=0
Connection: Keep-Alive
X-Wap-Profile: "http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Nike-1.0.xml"

h4waii
14th February 2008, 07:44 PM
Based on the UA or a binary comparison?

chrisd1a1
14th February 2008, 07:48 PM
does anyone know if this is WM5 compatable? or has anyone got this running on 5?

keep getting installation error

could anyone post the exe and dll's please?

carnero
14th February 2008, 07:52 PM
If someone want to see screenshots and some video of Opera Mobile 9.0 build 331 (as known as Opera Mobile 9.33), visit the following site:

http://carnero.cc/mobility/opera-mobile-9-5-jaka-bude/

Text is czech, sorry. But images is for everyone :) I installed it on PDA LOOX N560 - it's running on native VGA resolution. It's pretty fast, but little older core (Opera 9.0, not Presto/Kestrel) is faulty. But GUI is the same like on the video from Opera ASA (official video released for WMC2008). And I added Acid2 and Acid3 test :D

Enjoy.

briggs81
14th February 2008, 07:58 PM
hmm if i want to go to mobile.live.com it just directs me to the desktop version, booo

koelle
14th February 2008, 07:58 PM
is there any chance somobody making an uninstallable cab in qvga??? :P

briggs81
14th February 2008, 08:08 PM
is there any chance somobody making an uninstallable cab in qvga??? :P

Not much experience with reading, huh? Read a few pages.

stpete111
14th February 2008, 08:29 PM
Well I do hope the final release has the user agent setting that lets you choose.

teixeirabmb
14th February 2008, 08:33 PM
I don't know if opera will correct this, but we still can't define cache on sd card.

Here you have a 4shared mirror:
http://www.4shared.com/file/37829191/564ec477/Opera_Mobile_95_Beta.html

LordDeath
14th February 2008, 08:35 PM
Can I install it next to Opera Mobile 8.65 or will it overwrite it?

carnero
14th February 2008, 08:47 PM
You can. It overwrites link in Start menu only. But the other files will be saved and you can use Opera 8.56 and Opera 9.33 at the same time.

ogabriel
14th February 2008, 08:48 PM
delete pelo file explorer>> aplications date.. do device e os icones do program pelo windows>start menu>programs> delete os icones

no devdie>windows> procure pelo opera e pelo widgets e os delete..

de resto é isso mesmo
Opa vlw cara.. mas o grande lance eh que ao instalar o opera NAO aparece para mim.. eu nao pude testa-lo.. sabe quale o problema?
mas vlw pela dica anyways.

LordDeath
14th February 2008, 08:54 PM
You can. It overwrites link in Start menu only. But the other files will be saved and you can use Opera 8.56 and Opera 9.33 at the same time.
Ok, thank you :)
I hope it can replace v8.65. 8MiB is much space :(

EyeAmRubber
14th February 2008, 08:58 PM
Is this just another proxied browser like opera mini?
Opera Mobile is a full/standalone browser, and uses direct access unlike Opera Mini.

met3ora
14th February 2008, 09:15 PM
How do I uninstall this? There's only one file in the Program Files\Opera folder in the Storage Card where I installed it.

chrisd1a1
14th February 2008, 09:23 PM
has anyone got this running on wm5 as yet???

ulischultz
14th February 2008, 09:38 PM
Does anyone know the registry entry that defines the windows default browser?
I would like this to remain at Pocket Internet Explorer, since e.g. the Timetable of Lufthansa German Airllines (www.lufthansa.com) works only with Pocket Internet Explorer but not with Opera or any other.

kevinniven
14th February 2008, 09:38 PM
From what i know it only works on WM6

LordDeath
14th February 2008, 09:48 PM
I uninstalled it.

The icons of the bookmarks are very ugly and I dont like that they put this black skin over the whole GUI. Now Opera doesn't fit itself to the current tsk's colors anymore.
The rendering engine feels good and as there is no proxy between the web and this browser it eats up all the ram while running.
The new additional memory usage in the storage memory is really bad :(

djnutz
14th February 2008, 10:02 PM
Eh I like it. Installed it on my Excalibur so all I can really do is view the Opera Home Page and any link on it lol (no touchscreen). I'm using the QVGA one. Wish they had one for non-touch screens out there so I could navigate somewhere. Until then I am not a master of mobile webs.

I can't get to the URL, menu bar but can use my keyboard and use the delete key. No shortcut keys seem to work so if anyone knows any that I could use that'd rock.

Thanks

muskangul
14th February 2008, 10:11 PM
not working on my imate jasjam
wm6.1(shapes)

nayr2
14th February 2008, 10:23 PM
I'm loving pretty much everything about this browser except: it doesn't seem to resize div tags like opera mini does. One of the best things in opera mini is loading up pages with wide columns, and being able to zoom in on one and read by only scrolling down... here I'm scrolling right and left and right and left, unless I set the whole page to fit to the screen.

pdx77
14th February 2008, 11:27 PM
I'm loving pretty much everything about this browser except: it doesn't seem to resize div tags like opera mini does. One of the best things in opera mini is loading up pages with wide columns, and being able to zoom in on one and read by only scrolling down... here I'm scrolling right and left and right and left, unless I set the whole page to fit to the screen.

Yeah, that's my only complaint I have with it right now, however this is a leaked older beta version so I am hoping they just didn't put it in this release and will be in the public beta.

kevinniven
15th February 2008, 12:12 AM
Did the QVGA zip thing on my tilt, works great! Very nice, i like you!

kreep22
15th February 2008, 12:14 AM
gotta question. i gotta rom that came with Opera Mini, is there a way to remove that. thanks in advance for the info

flykthewiz
15th February 2008, 12:50 AM
Does anyone know the registry entry that defines the windows default browser?
I would like this to remain at Pocket Internet Explorer, since e.g. the Timetable of Lufthansa German Airllines (www.lufthansa.com) works only with Pocket Internet Explorer but not with Opera or any other.

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\: DEFBROWSER (no space)

and possibly


HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSPIE

rdwing
15th February 2008, 01:28 AM
Hell Yea Hoorah

Jjday7
15th February 2008, 01:52 AM
works great for me and its real good for downloading files from what I can tell. the only thing that sucks is when you zoom in too soon and the page has not fully loaded which causes text to be blurred and you have to zoom out and zoom back in. I still think it's a great browser. Netfront is a little better at finger scrolling though

Chainfire
15th February 2008, 02:04 AM
Found another one:

http://rapidshare.com/files/91925189/Opera_Mobile_9.5_Beta__really_9.33__patched_uninst allable_qvga.cab.html

Strange as this is the same version but scrolling works a lot better for me. Am I insane?

naisren
15th February 2008, 02:27 AM
How to remove cleartype effect, who can tell me.
this browser, if adding auto div function like Opera Mini, absolutely be rocking.

naisren
15th February 2008, 03:05 AM
In the Help folder, you can read the following intro for Opera Mobile 9, anyone has a chance to try them on Opera Mobile9?

----------------------------------------------------
Display Modes
Opera offers several display options that can be activated using Menu > Display

Zoom
Select Zoom to change the zoom of the current page. This option will scale images, text, and other page content.

Load images
For faster browsing and lower cost, you may choose to display only images that have already been cached locally by Opera. This setting is changed by selecting Load images from the Display menu.

Full-screen mode
Activate this mode to use the entire screen for browsing. The standard menu and title bars will not be shown in full-screen mode. To return to normal mode, use the soft keys that would normally activate the browser's menus.

Fit to screen
Opera's Small-Screen Rendering (SSR) technology reformats Web pages intended for desktop browsing to fit the screen of your device. This mode is on by default, and is activated by selecting Fit to screen from the Display menu. If you select Desktop from the Display menu, Opera will show Web pages without changing their layout.

Single column
On high-resolution screens, pages may become hard to read in portrait mode. Selecting Menu > Display > Single column forces a simpler rendering mode that normally will increase readability.

----------------------------------------------------

decimusmaximus7
15th February 2008, 03:17 AM
I can zoom in my doing a double tap on the screen. Is there a way to zoom out without using the click and hold menu?

Chainfire
15th February 2008, 03:33 AM
double tap AGAIN ;)

netnerd
15th February 2008, 03:33 AM
the new opera is NOT SLOW!
i'm running it on Imate 6150 VGA!
it loads pages just as fast as netfront 3.5!
but i like the new opera better!
netfront 3.5 makes my head dizzy! when i stop moving the stylus, the screen still scrolling on netfront 3.5!

decimusmaximus7
15th February 2008, 03:48 AM
double tap AGAIN ;)

thanks, it wasn't working after the install but it works fine now after a soft reset

fredcatsmommy
15th February 2008, 04:02 AM
I can't get the cab to install-either of them. Gets about half to two-thirds of the way, and then says it can't install. Anyone else having that problem?

darkerror05
15th February 2008, 04:20 AM
I tried the original download. It installed fine but wont load the app. It shows the opera splash screen then errors saying "Could not initilize DirectDraw". This is on a HTC universal.

emmit
15th February 2008, 05:02 AM
Does this browser have Java support?

rdwing
15th February 2008, 06:05 AM
I can't get the cab to install-either of them. Gets about half to two-thirds of the way, and then says it can't install. Anyone else having that problem?

same here.

Chainfire
15th February 2008, 06:08 AM
I had this problem earlier today when reinstalling Opera while having used non-uninstallable version before. Never found out what the issue was, just hard-reset + backup restore (from just before opera 9 install) and then it worked fine again. (yeah not great advice I know)

rdwing
15th February 2008, 06:11 AM
I had this problem earlier today when reinstalling Opera while having used non-uninstallable version before. Never found out what the issue was, just hard-reset + backup restore (from just before opera 9 install) and then it worked fine again. (yeah not great advice I know)

That would be the best route but however, I don't have THAT recent of a backup...So I'm trying to use Total Commander to find all files related to opera, and PHM registry editor to scrub everything out.

rdwing
15th February 2008, 06:18 AM
That would be the best route but however, I don't have THAT recent of a backup...So I'm trying to use Total Commander to find all files related to opera, and PHM registry editor to scrub everything out.

Seems like it really doesn't matter...if you go delete all files related to opera...
reg keys, files under \program files, \windows, and \application data, it will still say that it failed to install, but it actually installs just fine. Go look in your start menu and it should be there.
-RdWing

Blowfish64
15th February 2008, 06:35 AM
Tried to log into Hotmail on this browser. Says I need to have Javascript installed. When I go into settings, java is checked as running. Looks like this browser doesn't support java after all. :(

huh, seems to be working with the newer qvga version posted. Weird. But now it seems like the double tap is kinda finicky. Never can have everything, eh?

mike19722
15th February 2008, 06:36 AM
Looks great.....will try tommorow:)

pdx77
15th February 2008, 08:34 AM
That help file is actually for 8.65 and not 9.33 or whatever version this is, they just haven't updated the help file yet.


In the Help folder, you can read the following intro for Opera Mobile 9, anyone has a chance to try them on Opera Mobile9?

----------------------------------------------------
Display Modes
Opera offers several display options that can be activated using Menu > Display

Zoom
Select Zoom to change the zoom of the current page. This option will scale images, text, and other page content.

Load images
For faster browsing and lower cost, you may choose to display only images that have already been cached locally by Opera. This setting is changed by selecting Load images from the Display menu.

Full-screen mode
Activate this mode to use the entire screen for browsing. The standard menu and title bars will not be shown in full-screen mode. To return to normal mode, use the soft keys that would normally activate the browser's menus.

Fit to screen
Opera's Small-Screen Rendering (SSR) technology reformats Web pages intended for desktop browsing to fit the screen of your device. This mode is on by default, and is activated by selecting Fit to screen from the Display menu. If you select Desktop from the Display menu, Opera will show Web pages without changing their layout.

Single column
On high-resolution screens, pages may become hard to read in portrait mode. Selecting Menu > Display > Single column forces a simpler rendering mode that normally will increase readability.

----------------------------------------------------

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 09:47 AM
Originally Posted by hkultraman
Hi all,

Just to share my experience to all you guys.

I can install it on my WM5.

Actually, no need to worry whether it is uninstallable or not. I know there is a way to install by just copy those required files to your pda.

I can execute the opera mobile 9.33 on storage card with just settings and cache on main storage.

The trick is.

1. I have installed an WM6 emulator on desktop.
2. Install Opera 9.33 on that virual image.
3. Copy (Opera9.exe, OperaL.exe, wgtman.exe) from windows to your real phone \storage card\program files\opera9
4. Copy the whole folder \application data\opera9 to your real phone \application data\
5. You can now run \storage card\program files\opera9\opera.exe directory.

This allow you to install to your phone without really install it. And this also allow you use WM5.

Up to now, the real drawback of that Opera Mobile 9.33 is that no smart fit for long text as Opera Min 4. I need to pan for long text.


finally someone got this working on wm5,

could anyone please post the above files/build new cab?

cheers

Chris

kanaweb
15th February 2008, 10:13 AM
Dear all,
Does anyone know how to change user agent because I'm orange user and they don't recognize me if I have not the right user agent. I succeedeed yesterday thanks to someone here to change it for Opera 8.65 but for this version, I don't know which file I can modify.

Kanaweb

EyeAmRubber
15th February 2008, 11:35 AM
Tried to log into Hotmail on this browser. Says I need to have Javascript installed. When I go into settings, java is checked as running. Looks like this browser doesn't support java after all. :(
Java != JavaScript. Java is a programming language which requires a separate runtime environment. JavaScript is plain text and supported natively in browsers.

pdx77
15th February 2008, 11:51 AM
Ok, so you can change the cache folder to your storage card:
In the URL bar type in opera:config goto User Prefs and then Cache Director4 and changing the url to your storage card to see if that works.
so mine is \Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9.

Lots and lots of stuff you can change and play around with in user prefs, and opera:config in general.

mariosnc
15th February 2008, 11:52 AM
finally someone got this working on wm5,

could anyone please post the above files/build new cab?


There you go!

http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Tested on wm6 emulator and on my hermes (wm6.1).You can uninstall it and the skin is replaced with the one on post #20

Another version i just finished with fixed registry values.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92029436/opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 12:22 PM
There you go!

http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Tested on wm6 emulator and on my hermes.You can uninstall it ok and the skin is replaced with the one on post #20

cheers man, owe you one

fredcatsmommy
15th February 2008, 12:49 PM
I can't get the cab to install-either of them. Gets about half to two-thirds of the way, and then says it can't install. Anyone else having that problem?

The cab file from post #105 installed; thank you!:)

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 01:33 PM
the cab from post 105 works spot on on WM5 there are going to be quite a few grateful for this

Chris

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 01:43 PM
is anyone else having problems typing? when i type the browser is putting a space between every letter/diget?

any fixes as can't find any changes in settings

ps typing works fine in the url line

Chris

mariosnc
15th February 2008, 01:57 PM
Happy to hear that it is working.

Here is another version of the .cab file with fixed registry values.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92029436/opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar

Joecd04475
15th February 2008, 02:14 PM
Has anyone tried both this and Skyfire? I'd like to hear a comparison.

DanielS
15th February 2008, 02:19 PM
Hi

I like it - yet I am to stupid to zoom. Can anybody help.

LG
Daniel

mariosnc
15th February 2008, 02:29 PM
Hi

I like it - yet I am to stupid to zoom. Can anybody help.

LG
Daniel

Just double tap on the screen where you want to zoom!

rickpub
15th February 2008, 02:47 PM
Now if there was just a way to relocate the cache files or the entire \Application Data dir to the storage card....

Thyraz
15th February 2008, 03:00 PM
Now if there was just a way to relocate the cache files or the entire \Application Data dir to the storage card....

You can.
type opera:config in the adressbar.
it's under user prefs.

rickpub
15th February 2008, 03:57 PM
You can.
type opera:config in the adressbar.
it's under user prefs.

Hey, thanks much, will give that a try!

contentryder
15th February 2008, 04:00 PM
awesome from 8.5 but rather buggy for my taste right now..cant even load up my gmail account

ceoprez
15th February 2008, 04:13 PM
Is there anyway to stop the keyboard from popping up when entering text?

kapteg92
15th February 2008, 04:33 PM
When you are in a zoom in page and when you double tap on an area (for example at the bottom left), it must normaly move and focus on this area (that is like that on the video presentation). But in my case it doesn't move and focus on this area,it zooms out. It is normal that it zoom out if you double tap on a blank area but i though it move and focus on when the area is for example a picture or a part of a text ... Is it the same for you?

stpete111
15th February 2008, 04:47 PM
You can.
type opera:config in the adressbar.
it's under user prefs.

It won't save my change when I do this??

rickpub
15th February 2008, 04:58 PM
It won't save my change when I do this??

Yup, same here unfortunately....

rickpub
15th February 2008, 05:04 PM
Yup, same here unfortunately....

Actually, I kept messing around with it and after rebooting was able to get it to save. Possibly a memory issue?

mugglesquop
15th February 2008, 05:08 PM
Has anyone got Opera 9.33 working on WM5?

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 05:13 PM
Has anyone got Opera 9.33 working on WM5?

s e e p o s t 1 0 5
w o r k s s p o t o n

Packrat
15th February 2008, 05:15 PM
When I go to a site that has flash enabled (I have ppc 7 version installed on my HTC Tytn) it crashes. Anyone else have this problem?

mugglesquop
15th February 2008, 05:20 PM
There you go!

http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Tested on wm6 emulator and on my hermes (wm6.1).You can uninstall it and the skin is replaced with the one on post #20

Another version i just finished with fixed registry values.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92029436/opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar

Could someone post a link (or upload to XDA) the WM5 files? i cant use RapidShare.

Cheers! :)

masta7100
15th February 2008, 05:31 PM
is there flash support in this version? I go to youtube and no videos or anything show up? can anyone help me please?

chrisd1a1
15th February 2008, 05:46 PM
is anyone else having problems typing onto a website (user names / passwords etc)
9.33 keeps putting spaces between the letters

any fix?

mariosnc
15th February 2008, 06:15 PM
No flash for me either.Sometimes it crashes and the free memory goes to 1-2 mb!!No typing problems though.

PhilR8
15th February 2008, 06:16 PM
When I go to a site that has flash enabled (I have ppc 7 version installed on my HTC Tytn) it crashes. Anyone else have this problem?

Yes sir. I went to Youtube and the front page worked fine; I saw little flash animations, etc. I clicked on a random video to watch and it tried to load it, but the it crashed.

danigoldman
15th February 2008, 06:43 PM
To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software

ulischultz
15th February 2008, 06:45 PM
To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software

So when can we expect any official beta-version?

PaNa-S
15th February 2008, 06:53 PM
Happy to hear that it is working.

Here is another version of the .cab file with fixed registry values.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92029436/opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar

thanks , very nice on mda3 with wm6

koelle
15th February 2008, 07:20 PM
@danigoldman
as soon as there is a final release i guess all the guys here are gonna to purchase it anyway cuz its such a grat app^^
as long as this will take we gonna do a lil investigation on whats been done till now ;)

RacerII
15th February 2008, 07:55 PM
To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software

All i can say is that it runs great for a pre-alpha version on my kaiser, but if the "full" version comes out i will buy it (if it runs as fast as this version that is).
8.65 works ok , but its slow on my kaiser.

weebo523
15th February 2008, 10:33 PM
Damm, so that's what just happened to my poor kitty :-)



To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software

mikeeey
15th February 2008, 11:43 PM
sorry if this may have been mentioned, but i used the "QVGA" version and now landscape doesnt work. with the VGA skin it does work.
any fix to this?

rickpub
16th February 2008, 12:04 AM
To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software


So, is there a way to get hold of a post-alpha version? beta? rc1? rc2? or is this as good as it gets for now?

hkultraman
16th February 2008, 12:17 AM
To those who have chosen to download and install this of Opera Mobile 9.5, please note the following:

This is a pre-alpha version, and does not in any way reflect the quality of an official Opera release. It can cause data loss, harm your mobile device and accidentally kill your cat and love life. :)

Use it at your own risk.

Daniel
Opera Software
Thanks for your reminder. I hope that the final release will support the smart fit as opera mini 4. It is not easy to read long text without such feature. i need to pan for reading long text now.

cheers. well done.

pdx77
16th February 2008, 01:46 AM
So, is there a way to get hold of a post-alpha version? beta? rc1? rc2? or is this as good as it gets for now?

From Opera Mobile's offical Blog:
Expect more info about the public version of Opera Mobile v9.5 in the next couple of weeks..

which was posted on Feb 12.

http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2008/02/12/htc-selects-opera-mobile

DaMilky
16th February 2008, 03:53 AM
Thanks for your reminder. I hope that the final release will support the smart fit as opera mini 4. It is not easy to read long text without such feature. i need to pan for reading long text now.

cheers. well done.

The smart fit seems to work on VGA devices... and this version seemed to be originally designed for VGA screens..

I bet though that the smart fit zoom can be adjusted somewhere in "opera:config" .... but i have no idea which setting to change. Anyone out there have a clue?

bachikho
16th February 2008, 05:45 AM
is there any way to set the text adjusted to fit into QVGA screen (just like safari of iphone)?

marshj05
16th February 2008, 06:32 AM
I installed on my ATT 8525 (TYTN) and installed fine but when I try to load a page, the loading bar at the bottom of the screen starts loading then it stops about 1/4 of the way and then nothing happens. I do not have a data plan and I was using my wifi connection. Does anyone know what could be the problem?

sreeramu
16th February 2008, 11:57 AM
hi friends there is any leaked version for symbian mobiles

bachikho
16th February 2008, 02:16 PM
The smart fit seems to work on VGA devices... and this version seemed to be originally designed for VGA screens..

I bet though that the smart fit zoom can be adjusted somewhere in "opera:config" .... but i have no idea which setting to change. Anyone out there have a clue?
i think the QVGA version is just VGA version modified, that's why smart fit only working on VGA, no?

marcosorano
16th February 2008, 02:21 PM
i think the QVGA version is just VGA version modified, that's why smart fit only working on VGA, no?
smart fit work perfectly on my trinity:D

DaMilky
16th February 2008, 05:28 PM
smart fit work perfectly on my trinity:D

Can you try going to a site like Engadget.com and seeing if it works there?

kreep22
16th February 2008, 09:38 PM
Is there a way to replace the existing Opera Mini i have on my phone with Opera beta? that way i wont have to Operas on my phone.

chrisd1a1
16th February 2008, 11:25 PM
Is there a way to replace the existing Opera Mini i have on my phone with Opera beta? that way i wont have to Operas on my phone.

just go into your java manager and delete the opera mini app, have to say personally though have been trying the beta for a few days and so far i prefer mini

doctorchan
17th February 2008, 02:49 AM
There you go!

http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Tested on wm6 emulator and on my hermes (wm6.1).You can uninstall it and the skin is replaced with the one on post #20

Another version i just finished with fixed registry values.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92029436/opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar

Thanks you're a champ! Installing it into my Dopod 838 Pro now

bachikho
17th February 2008, 05:45 AM
is there any way to make smart fit working on QVGA (just like safari on iphone)?

pdx77
17th February 2008, 08:09 AM
is there any way to make smart fit working on QVGA (just like safari on iphone)?

I looked at all the options in opera:config and couldn't really find any.

Xdenwarrior
17th February 2008, 09:18 AM
This Opera Mobile 9.33 is really cool, but my only problem is that it drains so much RAM when running. The same goes to PointUI and Windows Media Player 10 Mobile. I can't get to run them all at the same time on my Dell Axim. Does anyone have a solution to this problem???? Is this even fixable via a cab, or dll that someone could make??? Maybe i can somehow limit those programs to the amount of RAM they use in the registry?:(

Draiko
17th February 2008, 09:35 AM
Holy crap... not only is it good but it's stable on my HTC Vogue! All they need is a finger swipe gesture to go back a page and flash support! holy crap! I'm totally buying Opera 9.5 on release day!

hodakaroadtoad
17th February 2008, 04:23 PM
Holy crap... not only is it good but it's stable on my HTC Vogue! All they need is a finger swipe gesture to go back a page and flash support! holy crap! I'm totally buying Opera 9.5 on release day!


I agree. Works great on my 8525.. only probler I've run into was getting logged into a secure connection to my bank. I simply get a white screen after accepting the site certificate. I also didn't find a way to import my previous opera or Pie bookmarks.

otherwise this rocks!

DanielS
17th February 2008, 10:11 PM
I like it very much - it is a hole new Dimension to Pocket PC browsing ;)

chrisd1a1
17th February 2008, 10:24 PM
is anyone else having problems typing onto a website (user names / passwords etc)
9.33 keeps putting spaces between the letters

any fix?

think i solved this myself but would appreciate if anyone else would test so we can feed back to 'Daniel'
i use pcm keyboard as default and get the spaces but this does not happen with the standard windows keyboard.
if this is not fixed will limit the app

OffYourRocker
17th February 2008, 11:07 PM
When is the real beta going to drop, Daniel? This looks unclean on our QVGA devices, the SIP keeps popping up, even after I begin typing with my xv6800 hardware keyboard, flash does not appear to be supported, and I can browse maybe 10 pages before I get a popup telling me that I must close one of the applications I'm running, a list which consists of "Phone" and "Opera." If I choose Phone, nothing happens, the list comes back up, and if I choose Phone a second time, Opera just closes.

wewex
17th February 2008, 11:36 PM
I think Opera Mini 4 is way better!!! i will also try skyfire next.

ScrapMaker
18th February 2008, 12:01 AM
kinda annoying you have to do a hard-reset to get rid of this dang program...

SyXbiT
18th February 2008, 01:04 AM
it seems good, but Opera is late to the game
Safari has been out for 8 months already, and they're just getting around to delivering a (non-java based) native browser that can zoom.
ridiculous.

it is good though, they just need to hurry up and fix the bugs and release it already!
the webkit based browsers are coming!

chrisd1a1
18th February 2008, 01:14 AM
you have to give opera credit though, most firms would have had the links pulled. i hope they are listening to the feedback we are giving and working it into their release.
possible to make this the best browser yet

all credit to opera if they do

martyotaku
18th February 2008, 01:25 AM
guys sorry bout the dumb question ....when i installed opera it changed my video sites(flash video bundle) to open with opera(which doesnt work with opera) ....how do i change it back to open with pie?
thanx

thenext1
18th February 2008, 02:06 AM
To all people, stay away from this like hell!!!!!!

It works only in internal memory, uses a good 8 mb of it, it CAN'T BE UNINSTALLED, it HIJACKS almost every filetype without asking it and no they can't be easily reverted back, it crashes at least once in 10 minutes, takes ages to start (they've also added a really useless animated splash screen coz maybe they thought it was too fast :eek: ), it's a monstruous memory hog, and last but not least...

...the rendering speed & quality is definitely worser than that of netfront 3.5!!

mikeeey
18th February 2008, 02:28 AM
To all people, stay away from this like hell!!!!!!

It works only in internal memory, uses a good 8 mb of it, it CAN'T BE UNINSTALLED, it HIJACKS almost every filetype without asking it and no they can't be easily reverted back, it crashes at least once in 10 minutes, takes ages to start (they've also added a really useless animated splash screen coz maybe they thought it was too fast :eek: ), it's a monstruous memory hog, and last but not least...

...the rendering speed & quality is definitely worser than that of netfront 3.5!!
that opera guy here on the forum did warn us of this, that its can happen on some devices. It was also warned on the opera website. since this is a Leaked beta and not a real beta, i guess thats what we get lol.

nonegiven
18th February 2008, 02:35 AM
To all people, stay away from this like hell!!!!!!

It works only in internal memory, uses a good 8 mb of it, it CAN'T BE UNINSTALLED, it HIJACKS almost every filetype without asking it and no they can't be easily reverted back, it crashes at least once in 10 minutes, takes ages to start (they've also added a really useless animated splash screen coz maybe they thought it was too fast :eek: ), it's a monstruous memory hog, and last but not least...

...the rendering speed & quality is definitely worser than that of netfront 3.5!!
You don't have a clue, do you? It CAN be installed to the SD card and CAN be uninstalled easily. You just have to be smart enough to load the correct version.

neilson
18th February 2008, 02:45 AM
guys sorry bout the dumb question ....when i installed opera it changed my video sites(flash video bundle) to open with opera(which doesnt work with opera) ....how do i change it back to open with pie?
thanx
I need to know too, basically how to change the file associations for .htm and .html files to open in PIE instead of Opera Mobile.

martyotaku
18th February 2008, 02:59 AM
I need to know too, basically how to change the file associations for .htm and .html files to open in PIE instead of Opera Mobile.



yes please someone help us ....please

noellenchris
18th February 2008, 04:08 AM
I need to know too, basically how to change the file associations for .htm and .html files to open in PIE instead of Opera Mobile.



yes please someone help us ....please

Use Schaps advanced config 2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
You can change any file associations with it. Not too hard.

Chris

martyotaku
18th February 2008, 05:48 AM
thank you sir!.....that was pretty stupid of me ...didnt even think of using schaps tool...
thanx again

jambaj0e
18th February 2008, 06:18 AM
After using Netfront 3.5 and Opera 9.33, I'm jumping ship and going with Netfront. It may not look as flashy, but its smartfit works better. I like having to zoom out so see the whole layout, then zoom in to a section and have the text smartfitted so I don't have to pan left and right to read it. Plus, CNN's political ticker articles don't always work well with Opera 9.33

Xdenwarrior
18th February 2008, 10:20 AM
thenext1, i think you should try to use it a little bit more before you judge.
I personally think that it is Netfront 3.5 Concept version that sux! First of all it reqiures almost 7MB to install, uses quite bit of RAM to run (at least on my device), uninstall it from remove programs but wait how come there is still cach folder left showing in SKtools, and try Pocket Mechanic then see that your device is still flooded with uselless registries from it. And last but not list it is a trial version that will expire.

As much as some people over at 4pda.ru have tested, this leaked beta Opera Mobile 9.0 (build 331) is a full version. It is not restricted to the number of uses, and if you put 2009 as the year, it will not expire.
I find it a lot more finger friendly and less complicated.
Also, this Opera beta doesn't necessary requires 8MB to install. Well, actually what you do is you install first of all original version http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1428078/HTC_Opera_9_331.cab
(after installation, you can see that it is Opera9.exe in windows folder that takes up most of the space (over 6MB)), so what you do is install this http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1429366/KILLSiZe_OPERA9.cab
which replaces this opera9.exe (6mb) into opera9.exe(1.87MB) therefore giving you back some of that space.

The only problem that i have right now (as i posted earlier) is the amount of RAM Opera Mobile uses. It would be great if somebody could post a solution to that as well???:)

EyeAmRubber
18th February 2008, 10:49 AM
This Opera Mobile 9.33 is really cool, but my only problem is that it drains so much RAM when running. The same goes to PointUI and Windows Media Player 10 Mobile. I can't get to run them all at the same time on my Dell Axim.
Hey, browsers are heavy beasts. With all the web technology supported by Opera you can't expect it to be as small as a text editor :D

Then again it's a (pre-)alpha version which probably isn't optimized yet. Might be full of debug info and such.

EyeAmRubber
18th February 2008, 11:22 AM
After using Netfront 3.5 and Opera 9.33, I'm jumping ship and going with Netfront.
You are aware that the Opera version you are using is a leaked internal (pre-)alpha, not intended to be used by the public? Right? You didn't just download something that isn't even considred to be beta quality by Opera Software, and decide to ditch the final version of 9.5 because of this?

thenext1
18th February 2008, 11:27 AM
You don't have a clue, do you? It CAN be installed to the SD card and CAN be uninstalled easily. You just have to be smart enough to load the correct version.

Load the correct version, and where is it this correct version? Is it buried deep in this topic?
I've installed it into the internal memory coz i thought it was pretty enough and stay self-confined in his directory nder program files. But no, it copied its files all over the place, predilecting the Windows folder that, you know, it's maybe the worst and least recommended place for applications to install.

Anyway the ONLY file that's under program files\opera it's setup.dll LOL! :mad:

So I suppose that if I installed it into the storage memory , it then would have placed there only its setup.dll file, totalling a whooping 10K of spare space on internal memory. Great deal.

To the uninstallation, I don't see the entry in Add/Remove programs.

thenext1
18th February 2008, 11:41 AM
thenext1, i think you should try to use it a little bit more before you judge.
I personally think that it is Netfront 3.5 Concept version that sux! First of all it reqiures almost 7MB to install, uses quite bit of RAM to run (at least on my device), uninstall it from remove programs but wait how come there is still cach folder left showing in SKtools, and try Pocket Mechanic then see that your device is still flooded with uselless registries from it. And last but not list it is a trial version that will expire.First of all, as the name implies, it's a CONCEPT version, and even so, it's much much better than Opera Shit 9.33, even if NF has its bugs like a continuous high CPU usage.
Yes, it uses quite a bit of ram, but in-program memory usage is much lower... RAM doesn't decrease as steadily when you open pages.
Anyway Netfront is an officiaal CAB and I can uninstall it whenever I want and all the file associations get reverted back to IE, now with opera they won't, coz the sucker program doesn't even have an option to restore or assign them (like the old OM8.65 had).
As for the trial limitations, just don't be lame enough and go to the website just before May 1th... you'll find an updated version that expires maybe in august, just like they did for NetFront 3.4.


As much as some people over at 4pda.ru have tested, this leaked beta Opera Mobile 9.0 (build 331) is a full version. It is not restricted to the number of uses, and if you put 2009 as the year, it will not expire.
I find it a lot more finger friendly and less complicated.
Also, this Opera beta doesn't necessary requires 8MB to install. Well, actually what you do is you install first of all original version http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1428078/HTC_Opera_9_331.cab
(after installation, you can see that it is Opera9.exe in windows folder that takes up most of the space (over 6MB)), so what you do is install this http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1429366/KILLSiZe_OPERA9.cab
which replaces this opera9.exe (6mb) into opera9.exe(1.87MB) therefore giving you back some of that space.Opera9.exe in the windows folder takes more than 6 MB. Opera folder in Application Data takes 1.8 MB.... this roughly equates to 8 mb, which isn't a breeze. In addition, I don't know the new version, but the cache mechanism in Opera 8.65 simply sucked, as it didn't work at all. It always grew over what you set as the size limit. And it couldn't be disabled, too. Great job Opera! I fear the new 9.33 will be just as shitty as the older one, in this area. Who in the world needs a web cache in a mobile device, today, connected as we are with our flat data plan or Wireless connection????

Anyway, the NF 3.5 directory only takes 2.9MB on my device, easily doubling Opea Mobile on the features/space ratio.

And for the record, I like to be able to choose WHERE to install my program and all the options directly inside the CAB installation or the programs settings. I hate to install hacked CABs to fix the program's bugs, or to rrelocate things to the storage card, or similar tricks that waste my time.

EyeAmRubber
18th February 2008, 11:48 AM
First of all, as the name implies, it's a CONCEPT version
Intended for public use, unlike Opera 9.33...

Opera9.exe in the windows folder takes more than 6 MB. Opera folder in Application Data takes 1.8 MB....
Which probably means that it has lots of debug info. Which also explains how some Russians were able to create a program which strips it down to less than 2 MB.

Who in the world needs a web cache in a mobile device, today, connected as we are with our flat data plan or Wireless connection????
People even use web caches on desktop computers. It's very useful, which is why all browsers have a cache. And why are you assuming that everyone has a flat data plan?

You seem to be a bit aggressive when posting. Maybe you should drink less coffee before going online. Or maybe just count to ten or take a break before replying to calm down first :D

jambaj0e
18th February 2008, 12:32 PM
You are aware that the Opera version you are using is a leaked internal (pre-)alpha, not intended to be used by the public? Right? You didn't just download something that isn't even considred to be beta quality by Opera Software, and decide to ditch the final version of 9.5 because of this?


Of course I'm aware of its pre-alpha status. That's why as of right now, Opera 9.331 is not the right version for me. I can't even use the space key for TouchPal when I'm in Google Advance Search. Also, Touchpal on Landscape mode doesn't work well, either.

No smart fit when you zoom in is the deal breaker, though. And I've bought & owned Opera Mobile browser for more than a year now, too. Don't worry, once, they come out with a better version, I'll jump back...

Unless Netfront or Skyfire is still better by then ;)

andrew7777777
18th February 2008, 02:52 PM
Hey, any news about QVGA support?

nonegiven
18th February 2008, 04:46 PM
To the uninstallation, I don't see the entry in Add/Remove programs.

It's because you installed the wrong one. There are a couple of threads. Take the time to read through both of them.

EyeAmRubber
18th February 2008, 07:28 PM
According to a video posted by ZDNet or whatever, the UIQ version has the text wrapping thing...

bastei
18th February 2008, 09:26 PM
If you like to move as much files of Opera Mobile 9 to your storage card, you can do it this way:

In the following data, rename the strings "Storage Card" to the name of your storage card. Then copy the keys (or change, if they exist) to \Application Data\Opera9\opera.ini
(You can change them manualy too, typing "opera:config" as url in the Opera browser and change the settings).

[User Prefs]
About Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\about.css
Button Set=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\skin\standard_skin.zip
Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\cache\
Cache Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\cache.css
Certificate Info CSS File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\certinfo.css
Config Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\config.css
Console Error Log=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\\Application Data\Opera9\error.log
Dir Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\dir.css
Downloaded Overrides File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\\Application Data\Opera9\override_downloaded.ini
Error Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\error.css
Global History File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\\Application Data\Opera9\global.dat
Help URL=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\help\en\
History Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\history.css
Info CSS File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\info.css
Language File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\locale\english.lng
Language Files Directory=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\locale\
Local CSS Files Directory=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\mystyles\
Opera Directory=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\\Application Data\Opera9\
Plugin Path=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\\plugins
Plugins Style File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\plugins.css
Skin Directory=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\skin\
Speed Dial File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\speeddial.ini
Temporary Download Directory=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\tmpdownload\
WML CSS File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\styles\wml.css

[Network]
Plugin Ignore File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\plugin-ignore.ini
URL Filter File=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\urlfilter.ini

[Saved Settings]
Open Dir=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\
Save Dir=\Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\download\


Now you can move everything from \Application Data\Opera9\ to \Storage Card\Application Data\Opera9\ EXCEPT:
Settings (with content)
skin (with content)
widgets (with content)
opera.ini
search.dat

Although I think only Settings, Skins and opera.ini is important to run Opera.


In \Application Data\Opera9\ remain only 241 kb on my pda.

bastei
18th February 2008, 11:16 PM
In offial Opera Mobile 9.5 preview-videos you can see the fullscreen-exit button transparent - but unfortunately not in the 9.33 QVGA-skin. So I tried to improve it. Here you can see and download the result.
Install: Save in \Application Data\Opera9\skin\

<-- edit:
I fixed some other things and improved the transperency of the Exit-Fullscreen-Button by making the QVGA-skin complete new out of the VGA-Version.
Have a look here: 371084
-->

myv6mustang
19th February 2008, 12:07 AM
IMHO, Netfront's UI is nice and fluid, but, it continually freezes my Tilt, and half the time won't load pages at all. It has good potential, but in its current state, it's completely unusable for me.

skyfire over these two hands down :cool:

bachikho
19th February 2008, 02:09 AM
is there any way to make smart fit function working on QVGA yet?

rdwing
19th February 2008, 02:21 AM
is there any way to make smart fit function working on QVGA yet?

Must get this to work soon lol. Maybe somewhere in opera:config?

pdx77
19th February 2008, 02:21 AM
Must get this to work soon lol. Maybe somewhere in opera:config?

I've looked through all the options in opera:config and couldn't find anything, I think it's hard coded into the program since it's for VGA.

Goodge
19th February 2008, 04:50 AM
In offial Opera Mobile 9.5 preview-videos you can see the fullscreen-exit button transparent - but unfortunately not in the 9.33 QVGA-skin. So I tried to improve it. Here you can see and download the result.
Install: Save in \Application Data\Opera9\skin\

Any chance you could fix the scroll bars on the right and bottom? The corners (as with the other qvga skin) have a white background, rather than what you would expect as a transparent corner to the scrollbar. Just a little thing, but I don't think it was intended to have a white background as is.

therealholg
19th February 2008, 10:32 AM
I've looked through all the options in opera:config and couldn't find anything, I think it's hard coded into the program since it's for VGA.
you'll have to reduce the virtual screen width and the adaptive zoom. it's much better.

bachikho
19th February 2008, 11:42 AM
you'll have to reduce the virtual screen width and the adaptive zoom. it's much better.
which values should i adjust to?

therealholg
19th February 2008, 02:15 PM
Adaptive Zoom ->
maximum zoom: ~80
minimum overview zoom: ~30
minimum zoom: ~50
virtual screen width: ~800

Lutek II
19th February 2008, 02:51 PM
Adaptive Zoom ->
maximum zoom: ~80
minimum overview zoom: ~30
minimum zoom: ~50
virtual screen width: ~800
For QVGA ???

therealholg
19th February 2008, 02:55 PM
yes, not perfect - but alright for me.

Lutek II
19th February 2008, 03:09 PM
yes, not perfect - but alright for me.
Could somebody verifity this values for QVGA resolution?

therealholg
19th February 2008, 03:40 PM
why don't you just try by yourself, there is no risk. just remember to restart opera and afterwards you can see the results.

when you dislike them, edit them to your needs

Bacco
19th February 2008, 03:54 PM
why don't you just try by yourself, there is no risk. just remember to restart opera and afterwards you can see the results.

when you dislike them, edit them to your needs

Dude...not bad at all. Thanks.

I think I'll keep it this time. Much more usable now.

Edit: depending on your eye sight, you can drop max zoom to 75.

masta7100
19th February 2008, 04:18 PM
has anyone gotten there Opera to work on youtube.com. When I say that, I mean go to youtube, type in a search for any video and it loads like a regular desktop. And if it does did you do anything special and what .cab file did you install? This Opera definately has potential and looks nice. Smoother then PIE thats on the phone. But I still use pie for little things.

Thanks for you help guys!

Lutek II
19th February 2008, 04:32 PM
why don't you just try by yourself, there is no risk. just remember to restart opera and afterwards you can see the results.

when you dislike them, edit them to your needs
OK, no problem but now I'm in my Job where one private connection to intrernet is my GSM Phone :-)
I will try it im my home this evening where I've got WiFI and fast internet connection....
And besides there will be better if more persons try :-)

helpme
19th February 2008, 05:44 PM
In offial Opera Mobile 9.5 preview-videos you can see the fullscreen-exit button transparent - but unfortunately not in the 9.33 QVGA-skin. So I tried to improve it. Here you can see and download the result.
Install: Save in \Application Data\Opera9\skin\



GREAT JOB!!!
can you do the same to other parts of the UI? to icon bar at the bottom? or the addrss bar on the top? or even the big cancel button that blocked so many real estate

djnutz
19th February 2008, 11:06 PM
So what's the possibility of modding this for use with a smartphone? Need to find shortcut keys (for refresh, menu, url, etc), and it looks like the screen size has some mods available...Is there any way to map the keys in the config?

This would be so fregin nice to have on my phone. it runs just have no ability to navigate with out the touch screen.

stpete111
20th February 2008, 02:13 AM
Just wanted to check and make sure that "opera_9.33_beta_fixed.rar" is still the latest and greatest that we should be installing if we want to be able to uninstall. Thanks.

bastei
21st February 2008, 05:50 AM
Any chance you could fix the scroll bars on the right and bottom?Unfortunately I don't know how to do that - seems to be very difficult!
But I fixed some other things and improved the transperency of the Exit-Fullscreen-Button by making the QVGA-skin complete new out of the VGA-Version.
Have a look here: 371084

Lutek II
21st February 2008, 11:05 AM
I don't understand what kind of problem with this button exist..?
I installed Opera 9.33 in my QVGA PDA and this button works well.....
I installed it from this lacation: http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Piotr

ogabriel
21st February 2008, 12:04 PM
i have HTC -P3401 wm5. Opera starts all fine (it take a time.. but it starts).. but after a few time (less then 5 minutes).. it freezes.
someone could help?

ericksonlk
21st February 2008, 12:38 PM
This version of opera is great, but it is freezing at some sites like youtube, and there is no way to kill the app, have to softreset... I know that can't load youtube is not a big deal, but I don't like the idea of a non responsive software when I'm in hurry:(

EazyVG
21st February 2008, 01:24 PM
I have THIS version (http://rapidshare.com/files/92042406/opera9_fixed_WM5.rar.html S1'A4/Z) (Opera 9.5 (9.33 Beta) VGA/QVGA) installed on Storage Card and working nicely on my HTC Artemis ans WM6.1. Somehow I am not getting the text wrap-up working like in Opera Mini 4!

therealholg
21st February 2008, 05:11 PM
Hey you guys ... i'v uploaded a video to youtube, which is showing a speedcomparison between opera mobile with toonel.net and opera mini. there is no huge difference in loading time ... so try out toonel by yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26IuesUVu4Q

bastei
21st February 2008, 10:48 PM
I don't understand what kind of problem with this button exist..?
I installed Opera 9.33 in my QVGA PDA and this button works well.....
I installed it from this lacation: http://rapidshare.com/files/92004777/opera9_fixed.rar.html

Piotr
Again with this one: Button works well, but looks horrible! :)
I fixed it in the way that this is transparent now.

noellenchris
22nd February 2008, 02:08 AM
Hey you guys ... i'v uploaded a video to youtube, which is showing a speedcomparison between opera mobile with toonel.net and opera mini. there is no huge difference in loading time ... so try out toonel by yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26IuesUVu4Q

I must be a dummy, but I gave toonel a shot, and really can't figure it out. Oh well. At least it kept me busy for awhile.

Chris

sandworm
22nd February 2008, 05:38 AM
Adaptive Zoom ->
maximum zoom: ~80
minimum overview zoom: ~30
minimum zoom: ~50
virtual screen width: ~800

try setting the browser buffer width to 200 and max zoom to 100

trjons
22nd February 2008, 07:48 AM
The version in Post 105 installs and uninstalls on my W 6.1 Kaiser...however, even after uninstalled my Kaiser still thinks Opera is the default browser for links sent in email.

How do you undo that?

therealholg
22nd February 2008, 09:17 AM
I must be a dummy, but I gave toonel a shot, and really can't figure it out. Oh well. At least it kept me busy for awhile.

Chris

- load the .net version of toonel, install and launch it
- launch opera mobile.
- goto opera:config
- under proxy set the http proxy to 127.0.0.1:8080
- check "use http"

and you're done ... i hope

try setting the browser buffer width to 200 and max zoom to 100

i don't see any difference ... what does this value change?

kanaweb
22nd February 2008, 01:49 PM
Sorry ot ask again but I didn't receive any answer. Does anyone know how to change the user agent because in order to see web from my operator and streaming video, I need to change the user agent.

Kanaweb

speedy1979
22nd February 2008, 06:21 PM
When I go to a site that has flash enabled (I have ppc 7 version installed on my HTC Tytn) it crashes. Anyone else have this problem?

It crashed on my Axim x51v when I visited youtube. :(

Oh and another thing I don't like about this build is I can't import my bookmarks.:confused:

speedy1979
22nd February 2008, 06:34 PM
skyfire over these two hands down :cool:

The Opera dude said. The version we are using isn't even in Alpha it's pre-Alpha. After Alpha then comes Beta things should be much better by then. And as for Skyfire. They monitor your webpage usage and they haven't been around as long if I were a betting man I'd put my money on Opera 9.5.

I think I'll take a wait and see approach to Skyfire.

l3v5y
22nd February 2008, 06:38 PM
Apart from the fact opera seems to think there is no network connection (despite being tried on GPRS, WiFi and thorugh AS) on my prophet, it seems good, and functional (apart from the whole '8MB install')...

Gustopher
22nd February 2008, 06:38 PM
Hugely impressed with this browser. Perhaps not quite as funky as Picsel, but it does beat it in any number of other ways.

I have two questions to which I haven't found any answers thus far:

1. Can the default search be changed from Yahoo to Google. Been through Opera:Config but didn't see anything and there isn't anything obvious in the Registry
2. TouchPal won't enter spaces when typing into fields in Google. Is it just thtis SIP or is there a wider issue?

Many thanks

chrisd1a1
22nd February 2008, 09:09 PM
Hugely i
2. TouchPal won't enter spaces when typing into fields in Google. Is it just thtis SIP or is there a wider issue?

Many thanks

i have the opposite problem with pcm keyboard, extra spaces...
so looks like the build only likes the generic input methods

DaMilky
22nd February 2008, 11:57 PM
i have the opposite problem with pcm keyboard, extra spaces...
so looks like the build only likes the generic input methods

Opera Mobile has always had issues with non standard input methods... 8.6 and even before that. I think they may have fixed it in 8.65 but I don't know. Either way since it was a problem in the past.. lets hope they fix it in the future.

trjons
23rd February 2008, 12:15 AM
Has anyone who got it to uninstall got PIE to take over again as default browser?

Seems like I'm headed for a hard reset.

DaMilky
24th February 2008, 09:54 AM
In the opera config there is an option that says "Limit paragraph width" it is checked but I believe it is calibrated for VGA screens... unfortunately there is no way to specifically specify the width of the paragraph.

The Adaptive zoom is just part of the solution.... If someone can figure out how to limit the paragraph width to QVGA dimensions this would be great.

EazyVG
25th February 2008, 07:59 AM
So, which is the latest .cab best to install, that is working properly (more or less), uninstallable for WM6.1, and has the text wrapping, as my 9,5 (based on 9.33 beta) has no text wrapping working, as it does in Opera Mini.

Please, a direct link would be nice.

bachikho
25th February 2008, 08:05 AM
only latest .cab best to install, that is working properly (more or less), uninstallable for WM6.1, still no text wrapping working, as it does in Opera Mini:
http://rapidshare.com/files/93661200/Opera_Mobile_9.5_QVGA_Uninstallable.cab

EazyVG
25th February 2008, 08:28 AM
Tnx bachikho, but:

1. It only installs in Main memory (mine does on Storage, though cache is on Main)
2. Text wrapping is NOT working again (have to scroll left-right to read)

I heard there is a version of 9.5 beta that can be installed on Storage Card (with Cache on storage as well) and the important factor of text wrapping does work.

So, any other version out there that we are missing?

bachikho
25th February 2008, 10:42 AM
as i know, there's no text-wrapping QVGA version till now!

thenext1
25th February 2008, 12:07 PM
If netfront 3.5 didn't have that CPU-sucking issue, i would be using it.
I'm trying opera 9.33 beta now, but I don't like having to scroll left and right continually, and if I want to stop scrolling i have to switch to landscape mode.
Netfront is way smarter, automatically sizing the paragraph width to match the screen width (but without resizing all the page) so you can still manage to see the text without having to go left and right. And if you want to just see all the page crammed in your screen width, there's the Just-fit or Smart-fit rendering.
Opera 9.33 is inferior coz I didn't find these rendering options at all..

larik
25th February 2008, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=trjons;1957218]

larik
25th February 2008, 12:49 PM
Has anyone who got it to uninstall got PIE to take over again as default browser?

Seems like I'm headed for a hard reset.
PIE as default brouser again, using opera.
you should:
1) Restore from you last backup file, install new opera(do not open it!!!)
2) make backup of registry before starting new opera.
3) start new opera,shut down it
4) restore registry/
it helped me and works ok/

LordDeath
25th February 2008, 02:57 PM
To restore IE back to the default browser maybe this can help (I did not try it).

Install Opera 8.65, set it as default browser and then uncheck that option in the settings. Shouldn't this make IE back to the default browser?

SciFer
25th February 2008, 08:10 PM
Tnx bachikho, but:

1. It only installs in Main memory (mine does on Storage, though cache is on Main)
2. Text wrapping is NOT working again (have to scroll left-right to read)

I heard there is a version of 9.5 beta that can be installed on Storage Card (with Cache on storage as well) and the important factor of text wrapping does work.

So, any other version out there that we are missing?


I also am confused to which version I should install. I would like to install the version you have (installs to Storage Card). This one for currently seems to be the best one? Does this one uninstall? I have a Touch Vogue (in case it makes difference). Would you please post the link of the version you are using? Thanks in advance.

EyeAmRubber
25th February 2008, 08:47 PM
Netfront is way smarter, automatically sizing the paragraph width to match the screen width
Which it conveniently borrowed from Opera Mini ;)

And besides, the video showing the 9.5 UIQ version shows this kind of text wrapping anyway, so it'll probably be an option. Probably just a bit hidden for now.

pdx77
26th February 2008, 05:39 AM
If netfront 3.5 didn't have that CPU-sucking issue, i would be using it.
I'm trying opera 9.33 beta now, but I don't like having to scroll left and right continually, and if I want to stop scrolling i have to switch to landscape mode.
Netfront is way smarter, automatically sizing the paragraph width to match the screen width (but without resizing all the page) so you can still manage to see the text without having to go left and right. And if you want to just see all the page crammed in your screen width, there's the Just-fit or Smart-fit rendering.
Opera 9.33 is inferior coz I didn't find these rendering options at all..

and again I'll say the same thing, this is a pre alpha build that was leaked from a VGA device. Text wrapping does work for VGA Devices.. When Opear 9.5 beta comes out it is going to support the smart fit or whatever you want to call it (similar to Opear Mini)

EazyVG
26th February 2008, 08:27 AM
I also am confused to which version I should install. I would like to install the version you have (installs to Storage Card). This one for currently seems to be the best one? Does this one uninstall? I have a Touch Vogue (in case it makes difference). Would you please post the link of the version you are using? Thanks in advance.

I have THIS version (Opera 9.5 (9.33 Beta) VGA/QVGA) installed on Storage Card and working nicely on my HTC Artemis ans WM6.1.

Thyraz
26th February 2008, 08:52 AM
and again I'll say the same thing, this is a pre alpha build that was leaked from a VGA device. Text wrapping does work for VGA Devices.. When Opear 9.5 beta comes out it is going to support the smart fit or whatever you want to call it (similar to Opear Mini)

Yep, Text Wrapping in this version is optimized for VGA.
So we have to wait for a real QVGA release instead of
a VGA version with resized skin files. :p

But if its working already on VGA devices it will also work for qvga.

bachikho
26th February 2008, 10:27 AM
if smart-fit function working on QVGA and eating less ram while running, opera will be much more better than netfront because it surfs much more faster!

imtjnotu
28th February 2008, 01:03 AM
how do i delete it off my phone?

mugglesquop
28th February 2008, 01:19 PM
how do i delete it off my phone?

delete these folders:

\storage card\program files\opera9
\program files\opera9
\application data\opera9

adamz
28th February 2008, 02:04 PM
Has anyone who got it to uninstall got PIE to take over again as default browser?

Seems like I'm headed for a hard reset.

I had to go into the registry and change all the references to opening HTTP, HTML, etc. in Opera... back to open in IE. A hard reset might have been easier.

speedy1979
28th February 2008, 05:20 PM
I tried the registry fix. It's was much easier to do a hardreset then reinstall from a Sprite backup file that pre-dates the installation of Opera 9.33.

But I am not mad at Opera; like the dude said this wasn't even an Alpha release but a pre-Alpha release.

ulischultz
28th February 2008, 08:13 PM
Can anyone tell me, where in opera I can find the version number?
I can not find any about screen or something like that... ??

nightflyer
28th February 2008, 10:12 PM
Hi everybody

this browser IS AMAZING.

Try the following settings, they work perfect for me! With these settings, you can read the text of the website from the overview. You don't even need to zoom in in most cases any more and also, there are no problems with the text not fitting in the screen!

Normally, pages consist of 3 main columns today, and you can see at least the first 2 with these settings and read the text pretty comfortably. WOrks like a charm for me on my QVGA Kaiser! Now that I can browse the web much faster I love the device even more!

So try:
1. in the normal settings via the menu, select large font size
2. set under opera:config, adaptive zoom, the Virtual screen width to 800
That's it!

If the config save doesn't work, edit the Opera.ini under "Application data/Opera9/Opera.ini" with any text editor (find the virtual screen width somewhere at the bottom of the file...)

See the results in these screenshots:

MAK11
29th February 2008, 02:17 PM
I had to go into the registry and change all the references to opening HTTP, HTML, etc. in Opera... back to open in IE. A hard reset might have been easier.

Can you post the values you changed please?

dug_bondo
29th February 2008, 02:27 PM
How can I get Opera to always go to the full version of websites instead of the mobile versions?
I've done some searching and haven't quite figured it out yet.......... thanks for any help

radem205
29th February 2008, 03:08 PM
in opera 9.33 tcpmp won,t open when you visit a youtube link at the ytpocket website. has anyone a solution for this problem?

afbond03
29th February 2008, 10:28 PM
Hi everybody

this browser IS AMAZING.

Try the following settings, they work perfect for me! With these settings, you can read the text of the website from the overview. You don't even need to zoom in in most cases any more and also, there are no problems with the text not fitting in the screen!

Normally, pages consist of 3 main columns today, and you can see at least the first 2 with these settings and read the text pretty comfortably. WOrks like a charm for me on my QVGA Kaiser! Now that I can browse the web much faster I love the device even more!

So try:
1. in the normal settings via the menu, select large font size
2. set under opera:config, adaptive zoom, the Virtual screen width to 800
That's it!

If the config save doesn't work, edit the Opera.ini under "Application data/Opera9/Opera.ini" with any text editor (find the virtual screen width somewhere at the bottom of the file...)

See the results in these screenshots:

Where is Opera:Config:Adaptive Zoom: Virtual Screen at on the device?

Bacco
29th February 2008, 11:33 PM
Where is Opera:Config:Adaptive Zoom: Virtual Screen at on the device?

In the browser address type "opera:" the 2nd choice to appear will be "Preferences Editor opera:config." Click on that and the next first choice will be "adaptive zoom."

Good luck.

koxx
2nd March 2008, 11:07 PM
does anybody know a solution to disable flash lite ?
flash warning in opera are very annoying ...

any registry solution ?

I use a Samsung i780 under WM6.

SciFer
6th March 2008, 11:00 AM
I have THIS version (Opera 9.5 (9.33 Beta) VGA/QVGA) installed on Storage Card and working nicely on my HTC Artemis ans WM6.1.

thanks for reply, but still confused. Does 9.5=9.33 beta? A link would still be appreciated or a post # of version you're running.

Thanks again

tepss
6th March 2008, 12:26 PM
the browser itself is amazing but still i cant work out few issues:
1. on screen keyboard: i've tried pocketcm one but as adresses can be put correctly in input mode every letter is followed by space which makes it completly useless. htc touch keyboard works fine for about 15 minutes and then i need to restart opera to use it again.
2. text selection works fine but hey! how to copy or paste anything?

i'd appreciate if someone would provide me with some solutions/(pinions.

FabianNL
6th March 2008, 12:28 PM
the browser itself is amazing but still i cant work out few issues:
2. text selection works fine but hey! how to copy or paste anything?

i'd appreciate if someone would provide me with some solutions/(pinions.

Select the text, then tap and hold. Then you got the choice to copy/paste