Now that we have GPS, can someone help me to...

[kain144000]

Hey, Everyone,
W/ the advent of havin' GPS on our Titans, I was wonderin' if anyone knew of any anti-theft software. I already have Sprite Terminator, but if the tele's hard-reset, that's purrty much k'poot, y'know? So, I need somethin' that req's a pwd to be hard-reset, but would also allow me to send SMS to the tele' to send its GPS co-ord's, lock device, and/or wipe storage. Sprite Terminator lets me do all, but pwd-protect hard-resets. Also, I use GPS Test v.1.04 to effectively activate GPS (COM4, 4800 Baud, etc.) upon startup, but it opens maximized, and it can just be exited to disable GPS. Does anyone know how to:
1. Open GPS Test @ startup min'd, and
2. Hide GPS Test from task managers (by this I mean memory.exe and QuickMenu (v.2.7, & my task manager of choice)? (I also use CeleTask, so any help w/ hiding GPS Test in "Running Tasks", and Sprite Terminator (SGStartup.exe) from "Running Processes", would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks, and 'hope the RE:s to this post help everyone.

[kain144000]

1. Open GPS Test @ startup [minimized]...

Upon noticing I hadn't gotten any RE:'s yet, I'd realized I could probably just run a MortScript (although, 'not too familiar w/ it) for this operation, right?

[kain144000]

C'mon, is there really no one interested in this? Wouldn't y'wanna find your tele' if lost, or worse, stolen? ::gasp:: :confused:

[Berserk87]

i would love some software like this as well...

much easier then calling your phone when you lose it :D

and if you ever get in an avalanche or something people can find you easier.

[rbadh91]

have u tried astrogpslauncher??? its a small proggy...and u can make shortcuts to startup menu...im gonna try and will report back

[serfboreds]

have u tried astrogpslauncher??? its a small proggy...and u can make shortcuts to startup menu...im gonna try and will report back

I don't think you read the thread, AstroGPSLauncher cannot be used to access the 6800 remotely. It is a great prog, but only for opening the GPS and keeping it open while you are looking out. It does not transmit a signal that can be tracked.

[rbadh91]

I don't think you read the thread, AstroGPSLauncher cannot be used to access the 6800 remotely. It is a great prog, but only for opening the GPS and keeping it open while you are looking out. It does not transmit a signal that can be tracked.

i know AstroGPSLauncher CANNOT be used remotely...but if it enables the GPS...then the Terminator can send the location etc....btw i still didnt get the terminator trial email so im still waiting for it.

i brought AstroGPSLauncher into the picture because...
Its small - minimal memory/CPU usage
Its always minimized - It always launches in the background...does not let the user know its running
Shortcuts - A user can create a path/shortcut that it will launch itself plus anything else; ie: terminator

[serfboreds]

True about AstroGPS, I hadn't heard of Terminator; will test. Thanks rbadh91.

[rbadh91]

True about AstroGPS, I hadn't heard of Terminator; will test. Thanks rbadh91.

ok it wont work...the phone would technically freeze every time it went into standby when running astrogpslauncher.

unless the terminator program can launch an app when you send a txt msg like it deletes everything upon recieving a certain txt msg

if possible we could send a txt msg and it would launch astrogps...as we all know astrogpslauncher is a small app that runs in the background and not visible to most task managers and does not put strain on the cpu or memory so less chances of phone freezing

it would be doable IF and only IF the program is capable of launching another program

[kain144000]

::sigh:: Perhaps you're all missing my point of this thread. I already know that the GPS doesn't stay on while the device is suspended, and initiating the GPS isn't the prob. The prob is that Sprite Terminator doesn't have a hard reset pwd, so you can just hard reset the phone upon finding/stealing it, and then it can't be traced. I initiate my GPS upon startup by copying the GPSTest.lnk to /Windows/StartUp, so my GPS is actually always on, running in the background as long as the device is awake. The prob w/ this is that since I need the GPS initiated in order to track the phone, what am I to do if a thief simply closes the program, in other words, turning off the GPS? That's why I'd like to hide it from task managers. Also, the Sprite Terminator process can be killed (which actually intercepts txts formatted a certain way). In other words, if an idiot steals my tele', chances are I can trace it so I can &(#^in' KILL 'EM for the audacity of disturbing my peace, but if another 933k comes across the tele', he'd just say, "Oh, let me kill this SGStartup.exe process...nah, I'd better just hard reset the phone to be safe," y'dig?

[Psionfenix]

tie the phone to your arm so they can't steal it and you can't lose it.

No, really, though. My thoughts are cooking a gps launching utility into a ROM with it set to auto run (much like astrogps, minimized/invisible). Even if they hard reset it should still have that program on it, set to autorun on startup. So unless they actually KNOW what they're doing, you should be okay.

[VictoryCube]

What? you have gps on the titan?? internally? how?

[rbadh91]

tie the phone to your arm so they can't steal it and you can't lose it.

No, really, though. My thoughts are cooking a gps launching utility into a ROM with it set to auto run (much like astrogps, minimized/invisible). Even if they hard reset it should still have that program on it, set to autorun on startup. So unless they actually KNOW what they're doing, you should be okay.

i agree 100% with that theory...well i've been cooking roms lately and i am currently testing this hard reset thing...so taking what both of you (kain144000 & Psionfenix) are saying and putting it into one solution.

so if we cook the gpslink which kain144000 said into the rom, so whenever someone did a hard reset it would still be there...you can rename the process so it shows as "ppc.exe" or "service.exe" insted of "GPS.EXE"

Now that we have solved the issue of having the GPS running there when we hardreset; the next part is to track it; as for that part im still waiting for the terminator trial so i can cook that into the rom and test it

[shield001]

the terminator trial can be download on their website. if you go to support then terminator theres a download link. for some reason they don't sent the emails. i'm going to try to use the gps test

[aph]

There was some software I used on the Treo 650 that would intercept a text message containing a specific string and do a variety of different things based on how it was configured. It could lock the device, wipe it, wipe the SD card, and so on.

A perfect program would do something similar, except have the ability to launch AstroGPSLauncher, and some kind of other program like Franson BuddyTracker which will broadcast the current location on a website.

[Psionfenix]

There's a program or whatever depending on what service you have, family finder or something like that, so you can use that to track them.

Get close to where they are, call them up and watch them answer the phone, then bust their skull in for stealing.

[Asphyx]

For GSM Phones, Not exactly a GPS based system.
http://www.bak2u.com/phonebak.php


http://free.3dtracking.net/home.aspx
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
http://www.mologogo.com/

Just a few available...Some of those use SMS to send location secretly other are simple friend finders.

But you know if you should ever have your phone stolen your carrier can track it immediatly and alert authorities even without GPS enabled...

Unless you plan on confronting the theif yourself (not really wise) your better off going that route.
But this might be good if you lost your phone and don't remember where....

[rbadh91]

http://www.bak2u.com/phonebak.php

from what i see thats only for GSM phones and it only uses SIM card to figure out its lost or stolen

[Asphyx]

Try the 3d tracking link...

[aph]

Guess what I found...

http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/

With mobile phone crime an ever increasing problem, W.I.M.P. offers an advanced phone tracking security system. In the event of your phone being lost or stolen, you can simply send a specially formated SMS text message to the phone and the W.I.M.P software will silently intercept it. W.I.M.P. will then send back a message containing the phone's GPS location in a format which can be entered into any common mapping application.

The only question is whether or not we can get the internal GPS turned on when that text message is intercepted. I just sent off an email to their support email:

The Mogul has internal GPS which is not active all the time, but has
to be turned on. Currently this is done automatically by certain
programs like Google Maps or Live Search when the GPS option is
selected, but other programs like TomTom or iGuidance do not turn the
GPS on automatically and need to use a launcher like AstroGPSLauncher.
Is WIMP able to turn on the GPS like the other programs or, if not,
can the launcher be executed when the special text message is
intercepted?

Will post back when I receive a reply.

[aph]

Their response:

I'm afraid I can't answer that question.

Please download the trial and give it a go.

Regards

WIMP Support

I guess support is a synonym for "useless" just about everywhere

[Asphyx]

Well they can't test it until they get a Mogul with GPS enabled and they are not about to flash a rom just to do that...

If you have the location set to on then the GPS should be active.
make sure to enable AGPS (reg hack seen around here) and that should solve most issue with turning on the GPS...

I'm using the 3D tracking app myself...
It's free and you can track from any browser.

[aph]

I'm on dcd 2.3.1 which has aGPS enabled, but AstroGPSLauncher is still required for all programs but GMM and Live

[kain144000]

Listen...
1. Initiating GPS upon startup is not a prob, what we'd need is a way to keep GPS on while device is suspended, and to hide the GPS-initiating prog, 'cause if this prog is simply exited, there goes GPS support.
2. The programs you're all suggesting, do they require a pwd to hard reset? 'Cause, if not, then when someone finds/steals the phone, if it's hard reset, then it wouldn't matter what cmds the prog allows you to send it via SMS. Ya'll catchin' my drift?
3. I already have Sprite Terminator, which'll let me send cmds via sms. However, I'd like to hide the process. Although nothing for the prog's displayed in Task Managers, if you check the processes, you'd see (and be able to terminate) Terminator's process. And, the prog doesn't require a pwd to hard reset.

And, BTW,

Unless you plan on confronting the [thief] yourself (not really wise) [you're] better off going that route.

I already have TEP, so it's just $50 to get a replacement if stolen. This..."extracurricular activity" is for my own...pleasure. ;)

[c4b3l3r4]

Hey guys!
take a look on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
:D