Full WM6 or 6.1 on Shift

[rpawly]

daniel pm check

[michael85]

daniel pm check
Did you got a response from HTC how to hard reset it?:rolleyes:

[danielherrero]

I dont know how to create folders using browsing folders system.....

[danielherrero]

Did you got a response from HTC how to hard reset it?:rolleyes:
No way by now...So be carefull with your baby...:cool:

[michael85]

No way by now...So be carefull with your baby...:cool:
It's safe at home now, because I'm working.
But tonight...... :D Thanks for the warning ;)

BTW: do you browse with the picture think or using file explorer?
And I think you can create a folder with holding it and then create or something? :confused:

[rpawly]

We still dont have word from HTC on the hard reset.

Interesting note.

From vista when connecting to device. It doesnt let you see the windows directory.

But i did find a txt file on the device that shows what is done, I THINK, when reset snapvue is initiated.


Daniel, i should speak to them again on my mobile soon, ill be afk for a while.
Ill let everyone know what i find out.

PCPkInstall.txt

2008/03/11 15:20:00.306(0x41672fbe): Install Agent Version: 6.01, BuildNo: 1256, fFirstCall: 1, fPreviouslyInstalled: 0
2008/03/11 15:20:00.369(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:00.432(0x41672fbe): Enter: \Windows\SOTI\PocketController
2008/03/11 15:20:00.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:00.610(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.653(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.684(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.733(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.774(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.853(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.894(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.924(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.971(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.005(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.047(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.090(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.122(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.163(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:01.210(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.241(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.283(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.314(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.362(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(TotalRecall)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:01.422(0x41672fbe): Version: 5.2 Build: 1620
2008/03/11 15:20:01.453(0x41672fbe): Platform: PocketPC
2008/03/11 15:20:01.492(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:01.522(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.563(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.627(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.659(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.790(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.823(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.902(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.936(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.990(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.044(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.078(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.129(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.166(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.248(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.286(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:02.318(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.413(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.446(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.494(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.579(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(CTLPNL)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:02.684(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:03.870(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.054(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.087(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.174(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.271(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.306(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.441(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.475(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.510(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.545(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.623(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.663(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.694(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.743(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:04.774(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.891(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.972(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.055(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.114(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(MSTLI)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:04.145(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:15.812(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:15.434(0x41672fbe): Failed to install: 0 folders, 0 files
2008/03/11 15:20:16.942(0x41672fbe): Enter: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.982(0x41672fbe): Exit: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.014(0x41672fbe): BF:GetPlatformInfo=clio Platform=pocketpc Name=
2008/03/11 15:20:16.223(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:16.428(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.462(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.494(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.591(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.625(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.660(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.695(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.727(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.762(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.796(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.829(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.864(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.899(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.931(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.965(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:17.002(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.036(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.072(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.234(0x41672fbe): Process: A2DD0266 pwupdater.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.290(0x41672fbe): Process: 01806DBE tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.361(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(PCCommLoader)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:17.490(0x41672fbe): Launch CommLoader
2008/03/11 15:20:18.843(0x41672fbe): Enter: LaunchApp
2008/03/11 15:20:18.439(0x41672fbe): Exit: LaunchApp OK
2008/03/11 15:20:18.637(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:19.862(0x41672fbe): End of install Agent Version = 6.01, BuildNo = 1256

[rpawly]

daniel maybe you can reset snapvue from vista look at your file like that one and compare differences if any.

[michael85]

This one is interesting....

2008/03/11 15:20:17.762(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe

[rpawly]

ahhh you saw that one 2 :)

[Pantaloonie]

In Vista control panel, go to folder options and select to show hidden system folders, then you'll be able to see the Windows folder via activesync.

[rpawly]

does the screen go off in winmo after a certain time?

[michael85]

does the screen go off in winmo after a certain time?
I didn't noticed something like that, but don't know if it was on the charger.


Today 04:21 PM rpawly ahhh you saw that one 2 :)
Yeah indeed :D Maybe time to kill this program and lets see what happends.
Will try this when I got home :)

[danielherrero]

daniel maybe you can reset snapvue from vista look at your file like that one and compare differences if any.
where is that file?

[rpawly]

where is that file?

in the root dir on winmo

[Pantaloonie]

does the screen go off in winmo after a certain time?

Seems to stay on when on mains power, but turns off after a few mins of inactivity when on battery.

[fatouraee]

There is something interesting there.

2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe

This is the phone App.

[rpawly]

In Vista control panel, go to folder options and select to show hidden system folders, then you'll be able to see the Windows folder via activesync.

i tried that it is selected

[danielherrero]

Yes but I cant see files...

[rpawly]

There is something interesting there.

2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe

This is the phone App.

nice :) thats what im talking about

[rpawly]

Yes but I cant see files...

you cant connect via activesync?

[Pantaloonie]

i tried that it is selected

Odd... that has always worked with other WinMo devices.

[michael85]

nice :) thats what im talking about
Isn't that just for the 3G connection?
I tried to start it yesterday but nothing happends.
Maybe we can try to overwrite it with the app from a TyTn II or something?

[fatouraee]

Isn't that just for the 3G connection?
I tried to start it yesterday but nothing happends.
Maybe we can try to overwrite it with the app from a TyTn II or something?

I think some sort of registry edit blocks it from running.
pick up any WM phone and goto windows and run it. it will bring up the phone app.

[killer_t]

I think some sort of registry edit blocks it from running.
pick up any WM phone and goto windows and run it. it will bring up the phone app.


My 3g connection are on!!! always

[killer_t]

there's a news for hard resetting!!!!!!:D:D

[danielherrero]

there's a news for hard resetting!!!!!!:D:D
Really??.......

[michael85]

there's a news for hard resetting!!!!!!:D:D
Why don't you share it with us? :confused:

[killer_t]

Why don't you share it with us? :confused:

Yes.. Became my friend to view te Htc shift..:D escuseme..

Step 1 : Shut down the mobile computer and turn the power back on

Step 2 : At start of the boot-up process, immediately press fn (green button of the keybord) + F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility

Step 3 : A message then appears, prompting you whether to terminate or proceed with the hard disk recovery process. Press N to continue.

Step 4 : The next message prompte you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data. If, aside from drive c, you have created other partition in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. if you press Y, your partition will be deleted.

Step 5 : A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start hard disk recovery process.

Step 6 : After the recovery process is complete, slide and hold the POER/HOLD switch to the right for about four (4) second to shout down the mobile computer.

Step 7 : Slide the POWER/HOLD switch to the right again to turn the power back on. The windows setup Wizard runs and walks you through reinstalling and setting up Windows Vista.

[danielherrero]

That procedure was reported to format vista side, no winmo:confused:

[killer_t]

That procedure was reported to format vista side, no winmo:confused:

You have try it?

[danielherrero]

rapwly did it.
Steps to try and recover SnapVue

Firstly try to Remove the battery and restart the handset.
If this fails please go into Snap View Mode and try to Tap in the bottom right hand corner of the Screen were the Settings button is meant to be located. If the Menu pops up please click on Clear Storage and follow the prompts.
There is a Hard Disk Recovery Method the process is directly out of the manual below.

5.2 Hard Disk Recovery

In case of system failure, Windows Vista® can be recovered to the hard disk by running the hard disk recovery utility. Before starting this utility, make sure to back up important data and files.

To run the hard disk recovery utility

1.
Shut down the Mobile Computer and then power it on again.

2.
At the start of the boot-up process, immediately press F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility.

3.
You will then see the following screen:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N)104 Securing and Managing the Mobile Computer

Press N to continue with the hard disk recovery process. If you press Y, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

4.
The next message prompts you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data:

Recovery process is starting .....The process will delete all data on the hard drive.Do you want to terminate the process? (Y/N) NDo you want to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data? (Y/N)

If, aside from drive C, you have created other partitions in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. If you press Y, your partitions will be deleted.

5.
A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start the hard disk recovery process. If you press N, the hard disk recovery utility is terminated.

6.
After the recovery process is complete, slide and hold the POWER/HOLD switch for about four seconds to shut down the Mobile Computer.

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[michael85]

You have try it?
Yes he is right. You can try it. But I think the storage for the WM side is not on the HD, but on a different flash chip...

[cmonex]

Yes.. Became my friend to view te Htc shift..:D escuseme..

Step 1 : Shut down the mobile computer and turn the power back on

Step 2 : At start of the boot-up process, immediately press fn (green button of the keybord) + F3 to run the hard disk recovery utility

Step 3 : A message then appears, prompting you whether to terminate or proceed with the hard disk recovery process. Press N to continue.

Step 4 : The next message prompte you whether or not to rebuild the MBR (Master Boot Record) data. If, aside from drive c, you have created other partition in the hard disk and you want to keep them, press N. if you press Y, your partition will be deleted.

Step 5 : A confirmation message then prompts you whether or not to continue. Press Y to start hard disk recovery process.



that's nothing to do with the windows mobile part. unless it handles more than just the hard drive.

[cmonex]

\windows\startup (inicio in spanish) isnt being executed so I cant take control. And of course, imposible to hard reset, etc, etc....

don't give up so soon. it is not impossible to hard reset. did anyone run enterbootloader.exe from vista yet? after running it, try running mtty and see if it can detect the device.
here's the mtty for shift: http://hpcmonex.net/mtty_0513_Test.exe

let me know if that works. if it does, then issue this command in mtty: task 28
that'll hard reset it

[cmonex]

[QUOTE=cmonex]i've read all posts in this thread, but saw your solution doesn't work for some people, the usbtool in debugtools is explicitly intended for this purpose so maybe it'll work for everyone.

QUOTE]

Could you pleased post the debug tools? I would like to try some com port switching and gps finding. Thanks!


OK, i'll upload it soon!

[killer_t]

that's nothing to do with the windows mobile part. unless it handles more than just the hard drive.

But i think the snapvue be formatting with recovery process..

[pusler]

The recovery using the F3 key ONLY restores Vista, I hvae done this a few times trying to get a cisco vpn client running on the device.

[cmonex]

I even have removed \windows\inicio and system boots. Maybe is booting from other directory....

er of course it boots. it's just startup dir, to run apps automatically. nothing to do with the system boot process itself

[killer_t]

The recovery using the F3 key ONLY restores Vista, I hvae done this a few times trying to get a cisco vpn client running on the device.
:mad::mad:

[cmonex]

But i think the snapvue be formatting with recovery process..

do you have a shift? i don't so can't try it... but if you do, did you try?

[killer_t]

do you have a shift? i don't so can't try it... but if you do, did you try?

Why i do formatting my shift??
Pusler say the snapvue will not formatting with this action..

[cmonex]

OK got the debugtools uploaded to my site

http://hpcmonex.net/debugtoolspart1.zip


some of the tools might not work ... i did not check if all dependencies are in the zip. please let me know if any of the apps fails to run.
i know for sure that the GPS tools will not work because you need the gps driver files too. (no worries i got those too)
and i did not include some that i was not sure about what they are doing. i will find out soon hopefully

but what is of particular interest to you is the USBTool. put that in \windows and run it, that'll allow virtual usb connection to vista.

usage (quoting from a review): "USBTool. This offers a menu with two options - cable in and cable out. When you select cable in with Vista running it creates a virtual USB connection between the two personalities of the HTC Shift. This allows you to run up Mobile Device Center and explore the WM OS from Vista."


that reminds me, here are also some vista tools that may be useful (one of them is for wdmc usb setup?!). i don't know if all of them are present on the retail version of the shift

http://hpcmonex.net/shift_vista.zip

[danielherrero]

OK got the debugtools uploaded to my site

http://hpcmonex.net/debugtoolspart1.zip


some of the tools might not work ... i did not check if all dependencies are in the zip. please let me know if any of the apps fails to run.
i know for sure that the GPS tools will not work because you need the gps driver files too. (no worries i got those too)
and i did not include some that i was not sure about what they are doing. i will find out soon hopefully

but what is of particular interest to you is the USBTool. put that in \windows and run it, that'll allow virtual usb connection to vista.

usage (quoting from a review): "USBTool. This offers a menu with two options - cable in and cable out. When you select cable in with Vista running it creates a virtual USB connection between the two personalities of the HTC Shift. This allows you to run up Mobile Device Center and explore the WM OS from Vista."


that reminds me, here are also some vista tools that may be useful (one of them is for wdmc usb setup?!). i don't know if all of them are present on the retail version of the shift

http://hpcmonex.net/shift_vista.zip

Thanks¡¡. I will try it some time....if I cant hard reset I will go to the shop (willl close in 2 hours)

[Pantaloonie]

OK got the debugtools uploaded to my site

http://hpcmonex.net/debugtoolspart1.zip


some of the tools might not work ... i did not check if all dependencies are in the zip. please let me know if any of the apps fails to run.
i know for sure that the GPS tools will not work because you need the gps driver files too. (no worries i got those too)
and i did not include some that i was not sure about what they are doing. i will find out soon hopefully

but what is of particular interest to you is the USBTool. put that in \windows and run it, that'll allow virtual usb connection to vista.

usage (quoting from a review): "USBTool. This offers a menu with two options - cable in and cable out. When you select cable in with Vista running it creates a virtual USB connection between the two personalities of the HTC Shift. This allows you to run up Mobile Device Center and explore the WM OS from Vista."


that reminds me, here are also some vista tools that may be useful (one of them is for wdmc usb setup?!). i don't know if all of them are present on the retail version of the shift

http://hpcmonex.net/shift_vista.zip

The debugtoolspart1.zip file seems to be corrupt in some way, it showed me a list of various files but when extracted, i only get 2 shortcuts and one cab file.

edit - OK, I'm a numpty. I had 'hide protected operating system files' turned on.

[michael85]

The debugtoolspart1.zip file seems to be corrupt in some way, it showed me a list of various files but when extracted, i only get 2 shortcuts and one cab file.

edit - OK, I'm a numpty. I had 'hide protected operating system files' turned on.
It's working here :)

[Pantaloonie]

OK, when I run USBTool.exe, it tells me "Please plug in cable firest" complete with typo.

Now Vista is searching for drivers....

Yup, it works, Device centre has connected to the WinMo side.

Thanks for that cmonex, it's a lot more user friendly than the previous method we were using.

[spamcatch]

You run usbtool on the wm side? Any way to get it there without using a sim card?

[Pantaloonie]

Yup, place it into the windows folder on the wm side, then run it.

You'll need to email it to yourself, so a data sim is required.

[danielherrero]

I am back again. I went to the shop with my shift and they gave a new one, hehe. I know, I know, DONT INSTALL REAL VGA. :)

[sbueschi]

Uncompress zip file and copy today.reg to shift. Then import it using resco registry and you will have access in today screen to.
1) owner info
2)messaging
3)tasks
4)Calendar
5)device lock
6)windows live
7)windows live search
8)pocket msn

I did that and successfully import into the registry, rebooted, but the standard items still dont appear in the today settings. Did i miss any preparation step beside the registy changes? thanks, S

[danielherrero]

Its imported from kaiser. I am installing my new shift and I will post again....

[fatouraee]

I did that and successfully import into the registry, rebooted, but the standard items still dont appear in the today settings. Did i miss any preparation step beside the registy changes? thanks, S

you have to goto home>items
and select the items that you want to show in your home screen...

[sbueschi]

you have to goto home>items
and select the items that you want to show in your home screen...

i know, thanks, in the items they dont show up. its still only date, snapvue and windows live

[killer_t]

Nothink to add windows media player function??
Notepad??

[danielherrero]

i know, thanks, in the items they dont show up. its still only date, snapvue and windows live
Hi. I ve imported correctly using resco registry. Do you have resco registry installed?

[sbueschi]

Hi. I ve imported correctly using resco registry. Do you have resco registry installed?

its another one, but with import function as well and i imported the file you posted.

[danielherrero]

Ensure It ve imported all the items under hklm\software\microsoft\today\items

[rpawly]

You have try it?

I did it 2 days ago, only reformats the vista partition.

[rpawly]

do you have a shift? i don't so can't try it... but if you do, did you try?

i did it 2 days ago, when i had snapvue issue, it does nothing to the winmo side.

[rpawly]

I am back again. I went to the shop with my shift and they gave a new one, hehe. I know, I know, DONT INSTALL REAL VGA. :)

LOL WHATEVER YOU DO DONT INSTALL REALVGA on your shift. Daniel is not a idiot and he could not recover it.

Be careful.

Not everyone has a local shop just to drop in and replace.

Daniel you fortunate that the local store to you carries the shift. It will be funny when htc gets it back as a warranty replacement and says WTF!! haha

[rpawly]

daniel,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2018439&posted=1#post2018439

[michael85]

Did you guys tried some of the developer tools?
if you open qxdmsdlog.exe you see you can log to an sd
to make sd log work, please make sure you have inserted the sd card and set radio flags (debug tool) to 4xx

unfortunately it's not working :(

[rpawly]

I think our biggest issue right now is figuring out how to perform a hard reset on the box, no one wants to risk their 1600 dollar baby without being able to revive it.

[rpawly]

OK, when I run USBTool.exe, it tells me "Please plug in cable firest" complete with typo.

Now Vista is searching for drivers....

Yup, it works, Device centre has connected to the WinMo side.

Thanks for that cmonex, it's a lot more user friendly than the previous method we were using.

so this gets rid of the connect, disconnect, then vista will connect?

can someone please post step by steps to get up and running.

[Pawel062]

just came in to say nice job to everyone. looks like loads of progress. some things i would do though are to

replace the snapvue.dll in the windows folder with the one in the snapvue cab for athena.

it will then give u back the start menu on top.

use a reg editor and u'll be able to then get ur soft keys back.

change tsk to something else and ull have a pretty normal windows.

then just use the registry on here to get all the today plugins.

ill try to find some time to get the proper dlls for wifi, bt, and sd so everyone can get those back.

[rpawly]

just came in to say nice job to everyone. looks like loads of progress. some things i would do though are to

replace the snapvue.dll in the windows folder with the one in the snapvue cab for athena.

it will then give u back the start menu on top.

use a reg editor and u'll be able to then get ur soft keys back.

change tsk to something else and ull have a pretty normal windows.

then just use the registry on here to get all the today plugins.

ill try to find some time to get the proper dlls for wifi, bt, and sd so everyone can get those back.

Ok whos gonna replace the snapvue.dll ??

[Pawel062]

Ok whos gonna replace the snapvue.dll ??

:p i dont have one so dont look at me. no worries, its a older dll than the one u have but its just modded so it wont hide the start menu. Boygenius was supposed to test but has been busy lately.

[rpawly]

!! i just came back from brickdom!! im such a chicken without the hard-reset, i would be willing do anything if i had that up my sleeve.

unlike daniel i would have to ship mine back to europe for replacement. would take weeks :*(

[danielherrero]

so this gets rid of the connect, disconnect, then vista will connect?

can someone please post step by steps to get up and running.
Hi.
Not missing but installing sp1, etc. And of course bringing full wm6 to snapvue but.....without realvga, hehe
Usbtool is easy to use. This is what I did.
1) Turn phone off. It will stop Internet Sharing service. If you skip this step sometimes the process wont work.
2) Run usbtool on winmo side and then menu/cable in
3) switch to vista side. Windows Mobile center shoud start connecting in few seconds.
4) Manager your pocket pc from vista, play with it, etc
5) Once you ve finished switch to winmo, bring usbtool to front, then menu/cable_out. Then exit
6) Turn phone on again. It should connect 3g correctly in vista side.....
Dani

[danielherrero]

daniel,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2018439&posted=1#post2018439

Its a nice idea. Specially 2GB ram. I put 2GB ram to my samsung q1u and the performance increased dramatically...

[rpawly]

daniel,

where you dling SP1?

also you wanna try that athena snapvue.dll on your shiny new box? and then after you tell me it works lol ill do it haha.

[Pantaloonie]

Same here, without a hard reset I'm going to be very careful what I change.
Plus, I like Snapvue, and Quickmenu gets me anything else I need.

[rpawly]

Just a FYI,

im testing sling player for one of the members and it really ate the program and storage memory up on the device down to 8meg storage and 7 meg program after installing.

SD support anyone :)

[rpawly]

pawel,

what do you think about the black bars?? those are really eating up screen real estate.

[danielherrero]

!! i just came back from brickdom!! im such a chicken without the hard-reset, i would be willing do anything if i had that up my sleeve.

unlike daniel i would have to ship mine back to europe for replacement. would take weeks :*(

I think you and me are excused for this test :)
ehemmmm, who is the third one in the list? ;)

[rpawly]

I think you and me are excused for this test :)
ehemmmm, who is the third one in the list? ;)

ya hehe we took one for the team already, I know there is no I in team but..............looking at a bricked winmo was pretty ugly and helpless, not being able to recover

[michael85]

just got my device in the bootloader.
see attachment, just open this on wm side.
problem is that the screen stays black (JUST LIKE THE STARTUP OF WM SIDE)

[rpawly]

01234567890

[michael85]

no attachment
thanks ;) was already editing it, but you were too fast :D

[Pawel062]

pawel,

what do you think about the black bars?? those are really eating up screen real estate.

u need realvga for it. man the shift is in so bad need of modding.

here is how realvga works as far as i know:

realvga tells wm to stop using the 192 resources that make everything 192 dpi. instead it tells it to use the ones in the cab for eather 96 or 128 dpi. are u guys installing both realvga cabs? the realvga app AND the resources for 128 or 96dpi?

check the threads on athena forums to make sure. if u werent then u know now why it didnt work.

[rpawly]

u need realvga for it. man the shift is in so bad need of modding.

here is how realvga works as far as i know:

realvga tells wm to stop using the 192 resources that make everything 192 dpi. instead it tells it to use the ones in the cab for eather 96 or 128 dpi. are u guys installing both realvga cabs? the realvga app AND the resources for 128 or 96dpi?

check the threads on athena forums to make sure. if u werent then u know now why it didnt work.

daniel is the only one that installed it and it bricked it. i was not brave enuf just getting back from brickdom myself.

blocktitlebar.exe is very interesting.

did you see the file list of things that are executed on startup?

PCPkInstall.txt

2008/03/11 15:20:00.306(0x41672fbe): Install Agent Version: 6.01, BuildNo: 1256, fFirstCall: 1, fPreviouslyInstalled: 0
2008/03/11 15:20:00.369(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:00.432(0x41672fbe): Enter: \Windows\SOTI\PocketController
2008/03/11 15:20:00.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:00.610(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.653(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.684(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.733(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.774(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.853(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.894(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.924(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.971(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.005(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.047(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.090(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.122(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.163(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:01.210(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.241(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.283(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.314(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.362(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(TotalRecall)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:01.422(0x41672fbe): Version: 5.2 Build: 1620
2008/03/11 15:20:01.453(0x41672fbe): Platform: PocketPC
2008/03/11 15:20:01.492(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:01.522(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.563(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.627(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.659(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.790(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.823(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.902(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.936(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.990(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.044(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.078(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.129(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.166(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.248(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.286(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:02.318(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.413(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.446(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.494(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.579(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(CTLPNL)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:02.684(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:03.870(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.054(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.087(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.174(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.271(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.306(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.441(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.475(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.510(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.545(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.623(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.663(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.694(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.743(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:04.774(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.891(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.972(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.055(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.114(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(MSTLI)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:04.145(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:15.812(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:15.434(0x41672fbe): Failed to install: 0 folders, 0 files
2008/03/11 15:20:16.942(0x41672fbe): Enter: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.982(0x41672fbe): Exit: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.014(0x41672fbe): BF:GetPlatformInfo=clio Platform=pocketpc Name=
2008/03/11 15:20:16.223(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:16.428(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.462(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.494(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.591(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.625(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.660(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.695(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.727(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.762(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.796(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.829(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.864(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.899(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.931(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.965(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:17.002(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.036(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.072(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.234(0x41672fbe): Process: A2DD0266 pwupdater.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.290(0x41672fbe): Process: 01806DBE tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.361(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(PCCommLoader)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:17.490(0x41672fbe): Launch CommLoader
2008/03/11 15:20:18.843(0x41672fbe): Enter: LaunchApp
2008/03/11 15:20:18.439(0x41672fbe): Exit: LaunchApp OK
2008/03/11 15:20:18.637(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:19.862(0x41672fbe): End of install Agent Version = 6.01, BuildNo = 1256

[rpawly]

can somone post the files necessary to get pocket office loaded, pword and pexcel

we also need to get the file associations into the registry so u can open from emai attachments.

[fatouraee]

can somone post the files necessary to get pocket office loaded, pword and pexcel

we also need to get the file associations into the registry so u can open from emai attachments.

Here is the cab that installs office2007 mobile... http://rapidshare.com/files/99127595/office2007.CAB.html

[rpawly]

thx fatouraee

6megs :/

wow we REALLY REALLY need SDHC card support like 2 days ago!!

[rpawly]

can someone post a lnk file to the brightness settings in winmo

[rpawly]

If your winmo says your running low on space prss ok to clear up some space BE CAREFULL.............It erases stuff in the my documents folder!!!!!!!

[parkertseng]

I did the following process and gain the access to file system of WM side.

First step is to create a new email.
From the menu Insert - Picture.
Using the browse capability go to the Windows folder
Locate Start Menu and press Ctrl C
Browse to Settings
Press Ctrl V
Go to Snapvue homescreen and goto Settings
Start Menu will be visible and you can then access File Explorer etc.

I can also connect to WM file system through WM device manager on Vista side.
There are few questions need to be answered.

1. How to install the *.cab file on WM side? I always get an error saying about the certificate.
2. How to install quickmenu on WM side?
3. If I uncheck the Snapvue from the items to be shown on today, what will happen?

Thanks in advance!

can any one kindly solve the issue for me please!
many thanks again!

[danielherrero]

can someone post a lnk file to the brightness settings in winmo
Here goes......
And this page explains how to do it...
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=create_links_to_the_programs_in_your_set&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

[sbueschi]

can any one kindly solve the issue for me please!
many thanks again!

1. How to install the *.cab file on WM side? I always get an error saying about the certificate.
Edit the registry as described in this thread by Daniel earlier to enable WM to execute cab files
2. How to install quickmenu on WM side?
Email the exe to yourself (exe extension removed so it does not get blocked by your mailsystem, rename it back to .exe as soon as you have saved it)
then execute it
3. If I uncheck the Snapvue from the items to be shown on today, what will happen?
dont do that, your today screen will be empty - some of us suffered a whole day... read posting 171, enable those first.

[danielherrero]

1. How to install the *.cab file on WM side? I always get an error saying about the certificate.
Edit the registry as described in this thread by Daniel earlier to enable WM to execute cab files
2. How to install quickmenu on WM side?
Email the exe to yourself (exe extension removed so it does not get blocked by your mailsystem, rename it back to .exe as soon as you have saved it)
then execute it
3. If I uncheck the Snapvue from the items to be shown on today, what will happen?
dont do that, your today screen will be empty - some of us suffered a whole day... read posting 171, enable those first.
Exactly. Dont forget to email too the two dll that must be beside to quickmenu.exe....

[Vs1979]

Regarding the SD drivers, I will give these a go if some one can upload a set. I did notice that at least sdbus.dll was quite considerably smaller than the file on my Kaiser. Hopefully its these minor dll changes that'll be enought to detect the SD card successfully.
Ive compared great chunks of the registry and compared to my Dutty's ROM for Kaiser, they are very similar in regards to entries for SD cards etc.

[danielherrero]

It would be nice if possible. Access to SD and GPS would bring us gps navigation, etc. Access to GPS will be possible, I am sure. We only have to get the drivers working. But I am not very sure about shared devices between winmo and vista, like BT, WIFI and SD. Obviously one side should control the device (probably vista) and the other one should act as client but It needs software to do it and I am not sure about it.....

[127.0.0.1]

I did try the HTCGPSTool provided in the dev tools, but no luck. I can connect on COM 8, but it hangs winmo. I also tried other versions HTCGPStool.exe for the qualcom chip, but still nothing.

Is there an associated driver that I am missing? I am worried that the antenna is not connected. If that is the case I would be willing to try to connect it if possible.

[danielherrero]

I did try the HTCGPSTool provided in the dev tools, but no luck. I can connect on COM 8, but it hangs winmo. I also tried other versions HTCGPStool.exe for the qualcom chip, but still nothing.

Is there an associated driver that I am missing? I am worried that the antenna is not connected. If that is the case I would be willing to try to connect it if possible.

The driver isnt installed. Same thing happened with HTC trinity. I am sure someone will know how to add the driver....

[Vs1979]

I never got into any of the ROM Cooking projects, so I was just interested in knowing if there is anywhere to download for example the entirely unpacked Kaiser ROM or another of the QUALCOMM chipset devices. I have no qualms with trying to load most of the missing drivers and reg settings to see if there is any device connections.

My Clearstorage let me reset to a vanilla build again, So I'm going to test putting this in as a service instead of a Startup app. Can cancel every reboot, but will hopefully give me the chance to reset if something hasnt quite worked.

[danielherrero]

Good luck¡:)

[killer_t]

I never got into any of the ROM Cooking projects, so I was just interested in knowing if there is anywhere to download for example the entirely unpacked Kaiser ROM or another of the QUALCOMM chipset devices. I have no qualms with trying to load most of the missing drivers and reg settings to see if there is any device connections.

My Clearstorage let me reset to a vanilla build again, So I'm going to test putting this in as a service instead of a Startup app. Can cancel every reboot, but will hopefully give me the chance to reset if something hasnt quite worked.


A good idea it's to add a Vista executable can to start clearstorage.exe..

[danielherrero]

Yep, I ve tried it. I unassambled ShagCtrldll.dll and there are interesting api functions, like reset, installcertificate, etc, but there isnt any tool to execute remote programs. In order to execute a program on the device using RAPI (very easy) first must be set a usb connection. We know how to set this connection from winmo side using usbtool but I dont know how to do it from vista side. If we get it using any of the debug tools for vista side then I will do a little program that executes ClearStorage.exe from vista side....:D

[Vs1979]

Also does anybody know anything about finding and unlocking Extended ROMs at all. Like on most of the phones they store install apps on them. If the Shift has one, and can be easily unlocked and updated then this maybe a way to automate the rebuild with disabling the "Snapvue" functionality without having to send files over data.

Currently I am living in Switzerland and the data tariff for my UK SIM is obviously void (and as a temporary worker getting data packages is almost impossible), so after a £400+ phone bill, my preference is to keep emailing to a minimum, even with the solution for disabling snapvue, you would still need to at minimum send over USBTool to allow access from Vista.

So any ideas RE extended ROM, I'd be happy to try...

[danielherrero]

Its related with modify HKLM\System\StorageManager....

[Vs1979]

OK have just done some quick reading. Appears that the Kaiser does not actually have or use an Extended ROM. To this effect, do we believe that the Shift may have also followed this design.

Which leads us back to gaining access via bootloader etc I presume....

[parkertseng]

Hi
Regarding the cab file on WM side, I read the post from Daniel, it said I have edit the registry.
I was confuse which registry I should edit? Vista side or WM side?
Since I can't run any cab files before edit the registry, how do get to install regedit on WM side
in order to run the cab?
Can some one kindly explain steps in detail?
On the quickmenu issue, where can I find the quickmenu file?
from WM side in Shift or from other mobile device?
Thanks for the reply!

[thaihugo]

anybody found a game properly working on WM side? have decaled graphics or touchscreen. Anybody found a working replacment for gx.dll?

[killer_t]

Daniel you will able to play windows media player mobile?

[danielherrero]

WMPlayer isnt on the rom. We need a rom dump from kaiser or any other and copy the files \windows\wm*.*.....

[Pantaloonie]

Hi
Regarding the cab file on WM side, I read the post from Daniel, it said I have edit the registry.
I was confuse which registry I should edit? Vista side or WM side?
Since I can't run any cab files before edit the registry, how do get to install regedit on WM side
in order to run the cab?
Can some one kindly explain steps in detail?
On the quickmenu issue, where can I find the quickmenu file?
from WM side in Shift or from other mobile device?
Thanks for the reply!

You need to edit the registry on the WinMo side.
You can download Schaps Registry Editor from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347178
Unpack it on your pc using winrar.

Rename the REGIST~1.001 file to RegistryEditor (no file extension) and email that to yourself. In WinMo, save it from the email - when you do this rename it to RegistryEditor.exe. You can then run it.

QuickMenu can be downloaded here -
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-quickmenu-v2-7.html

[killer_t]

WMPlayer isnt on the rom. We need a rom dump from kaiser or any other and copy the files \windows\wm*.*.....

we can reactivate all function with dump?

[danielherrero]

hehe, posible but not easy. Some programs requires files and registry additions. In my opinion 64 MB is too small space to put Full WM6.1. We will have to choose between components.....

[rpawly]

It would be nice if possible. Access to SD and GPS would bring us gps navigation, etc. Access to GPS will be possible, I am sure. We only have to get the drivers working. But I am not very sure about shared devices between winmo and vista, like BT, WIFI and SD. Obviously one side should control the device (probably vista) and the other one should act as client but It needs software to do it and I am not sure about it.....

in doing my battery tests im having to remove programs to install a new program, i loaded 1 mp3 and maxed out the memory lol SD support is vital to everything we are doing.

I mean my treo has more memory than the shift
Shift Storage Mem: 37 / Program 43
Treo Storage Mem: 57 / Program 48

And from what i understand the treo doesnt have much memory lol

[rpawly]

I never got into any of the ROM Cooking projects, so I was just interested in knowing if there is anywhere to download for example the entirely unpacked Kaiser ROM or another of the QUALCOMM chipset devices. I have no qualms with trying to load most of the missing drivers and reg settings to see if there is any device connections.

My Clearstorage let me reset to a vanilla build again, So I'm going to test putting this in as a service instead of a Startup app. Can cancel every reboot, but will hopefully give me the chance to reset if something hasnt quite worked.

I would test and retest this extensively DONT BRICK your baby

[danielherrero]

Yep, we need URGENTLY a ROM in order to flash it to Vista or there could be many returns to shop.....So be very very very careful....:o

[michael85]

I thought there were people who had a beta rom or something?
Maybe that person can share it with us and we can extract it to look at it :)

[Pantaloonie]

The 'Shift Project' members have an early ROM for the Shift, ask one of them.

[cmonex]

The 'Shift Project' members have an early ROM for the Shift, ask one of them.

we have the rom but cannot release it as is.

we can provide you with some files from it though.

what is needed?

[cmonex]

just got my device in the bootloader.
see attachment, just open this on wm side.
problem is that the screen stays black (JUST LIKE THE STARTUP OF WM SIDE)

excellent. someone finally tried enterbootloader.

you can also run it on vista side, but needs the usb connection to WM, then just execute a RUU to enter bootloader.

are you able to connect to the bootloader via mtty in vista? i posted mtty earlier in this thread

if yes... then only one task is remaining before we can fully make the shift a normal WM6 device.

and this is... find a way to enter bootloader using key combination during reset. i.e. without bootable WM6.


p.s.: if mtty is working... can you tell me what this command reports: info 7

[cmonex]

I think our biggest issue right now is figuring out how to perform a hard reset on the box, no one wants to risk their 1600 dollar baby without being able to revive it.

well, you are right, though you can easily hard reset with bootable OS. the issue is how to hard reset without bootable OS. there must be a way, just need to find it ;)

[cmonex]

Ok whos gonna replace the snapvue.dll ??


only replace it if you first install the required certs for it. did PK tell you that?

otherwise snapvue will just stop working

also, replace whole snapvue, not just the dll

but if you pay attention to these things, the end result will be nice; it'll keep snapvue and allow you access to WM too

[cmonex]

Did you guys tried some of the developer tools?
if you open qxdmsdlog.exe you see you can log to an sd


unfortunately it's not working :(

you have to enter bootloader and using mtty, set the correct debug flags

[rpawly]

Well im nearing the end of the road with HTC Support.

I am in contact with the developers from Taiwan.

They have told me the following:

1. There is no hardware method of performing a hard reset on the shift's winmo side.
2. That if they determine that the winmo side is corrupt, one would have to return the device to HTC (your local HTC support) and they would perform a ROM reload of the device.
3. They will not release the ROM to me to fix myself.
4. They are considering and checking with higher ups if they can give me the procedures they use for flashing the ROM. (I told them i could get the ROM 3rd party) They are quoting a security issue with releasing the ROM.

So there you have it. BE CAREFUL.

[danielherrero]

Well, I am sure that Shift project will release a rom soon. Where did you found pocket internet explorer?

[rpawly]

Well, I am sure that Shift project will release a rom soon. Where did you found pocket internet explorer?

i attached it to the battery test page

[cmonex]

Well im nearing the end of the road with HTC Support.

I am in contact with the developers from Taiwan.

They have told me the following:

1. There is no hardware method of performing a hard reset on the shift's winmo side.
2. That if they determine that the winmo side is corrupt, one would have to return the device to HTC (your local HTC support) and they would perform a ROM reload of the device.
3. They will not release the ROM to me to fix myself.
4. They are considering and checking with higher ups if they can give me the procedures they use for flashing the ROM. (I told them i could get the ROM 3rd party) They are quoting a security issue with releasing the ROM.

So there you have it. BE CAREFUL.


oh why do you believe this total bullshit. :P
i already noticed many people at an OEM company often don't know what the device is like at all.

1) you can clearly see people here have performed a hard reset just fine! the SPL supports clearstorageflag anyway.
2) nope, you can reflash yourself as soon as shift project can release a hardSPL (needs a test device of course). then of course custom roms!! but project needs a device for that.
3) who cares? :P especially with hardspl. but these people are so nasty... i have tricked many such companies before and worked out how to flash the devices (i'm not talking about HTC devices now, various WM and winCE devices).
4) you should not have told them you can get the rom third party, because a) it is not true *yet* b) better not to tell them such things.


what i'd like is dump the SPL from one of the devices you people have. so i can see exactly which SPL you got, which features it has etc. if someone wants to help then please contact me in a PM.

if it is an SPL that has a hidden hard reset key combo we just need to figure that out then (it is possible to find out either by copious disasm or by trying keys randomly).

if it doesn't have the function compiled in, there is still a way to solve that.

[danielherrero]

Happy to listen it.....:)

[rpawly]

cmonex

the only rebuttal i have to your post is that this is not a rebranded device and its the manufactuer's developers saying there is no hardware button press hard-reset.

The rest i agree with, was just letting people know the extent of the information provided to me. :)

And that some people may not be aware that there is not a quick fix if they brick their device :)........ as of today

[cmonex]

cmonex

the only rebuttal i have to your post is that this is not a rebranded device and its the manufactuer's developers saying there is no hardware button press hard-reset.

The rest i agree with, was just letting people know the extent of the information provided to me. :)

And that some people may not be aware that there is not a quick fix if they brick their device :)........ as of today


oh, don't worry, even original manufacturer (OEM) people can be dumb, as i said in my previous post... many of them are not willing to release a ROM *at all*, and then you have to find out how to make one and flash it. (i've done that on quite a few devices before so i can prove it is possible :D )



i got a couple of PM's, should be enough for now, thanks! :)

[rpawly]

pm is there

oh, don't worry, even original manufacturer (OEM) people can be dumb, as i said in my previous post... many of them are not willing to release a ROM *at all*, and then you have to find out how to make one and flash it. (i've done that on quite a few devices before so i can prove it is possible :D )



i got a couple of PM's, should be enough for now, thanks! :)

[rpawly]

Is everyone else battling the storage issue???

Im fighting with winmo on this every day.

[rpawly]

Has anyone loaded the office2007.cab that was posted here?

all hte programs work except for xcel. I get a small hour glass then nothing.

[danielherrero]

I think the only way to increase storage size is having access to SD Card. It would be nice to run tomtom/igo/sygic on snapvue size.....:D

[danielherrero]

how much size¿ where is the link?:o nI know it, I am a little blinded....

[rpawly]

I think the only way to increase storage size is having access to SD Card. It would be nice to run tomtom/igo/sygic on snapvue size.....:D

daniel its beyond that, ive loaded iexplorer6.1 (had to remove opera 5 megs) pocket office, and outlook 4 accounts with imap folders and i only got 15 megs left storage and program.

when i copy a large cab file on it complains about size whenever it drops below 10 megs, no documents, no nice browser, (or the cache to go with it), no pictures, no other media, no gps, no pretty front ends, no weather apps, no photo speed dials with the phone apps to come, no messenger, no networking tools. List goes on and on.

In my treo i have a 2 gig card and it works out nicely, the major thing for me is attachments in emails, on my phone i save them to sd card so im sure poutlook is taking a nice chunk of my storage memory.

daniel, what is your memory stats at now?

[fatouraee]

how much size¿ where is the link?:o nI know it, I am a little blinded....

Here you go http://rapidshare.com/files/99127595/office2007.CAB.html

[rpawly]

Here you go http://rapidshare.com/files/99127595/office2007.CAB.html


fatouraee, the excel in that cab is not functioning on my shift. Install went fine other programs work from cab but excel gives brief hourglass then nothing.

[danielherrero]

18 MB free. I installed.
1) Opera Mini. Its (imo) the best browser in the market in only 200 kb. Remove Opera and IExplorer.
2) Newbreak.
3) Pocket Weather
4) Resco file explorer and registry.
Thats all, by now

[sbueschi]

9MB free, i have:
Resco explorer and registry
Office Reader
Quickmenu
no browser yet
picture viewer
1 exchange account with rather large agenda and contacts

[fatouraee]

fatouraee, the excel in that cab is not functioning on my shift. Install went fine other programs work from cab but excel gives brief hourglass then nothing.

i will take a look and let you know asap...

[rpawly]

18 MB free. I installed.
1) Opera Mini. Its (imo) the best browser in the market in only 200 kb. Remove Opera and IExplorer.
2) Newbreak.
3) Pocket Weather
4) Resco file explorer and registry.
Thats all, by now

but with opera mini you have to install jbed no? requires java
you have no email accounts setup?

[rpawly]

9MB free, i have:
Resco explorer and registry
Office Reader
Quickmenu
no browser yet
picture viewer
1 exchange account with rather large agenda and contacts

can you post the office reader cab?

[danielherrero]

but with opera mini you have to install jbed no? requires java
you have no email accounts setup?

yep,. jbed. But beleive, its nice.
I ve one direct push account and two more (gmail and hotmail)

[fatouraee]

The office2007 cab works fine for me but i ma using an athena. :) . i want a shift and i already put the money a side for it . just waiting for u brave souls to get the kinks out :).. and in my free time i do programming for iphone and ppc.. and do some cooking and mods...

I have the office in individual cabs... :)

[rpawly]

Ok i have tracked down my storage issues, the following files are taking half of my storage space, can someone shed some light as to what these files do?

We only have 37.44Mb to start with, these 9 files is 27 megs of so we only got 10 megs left :(
i swear tha mxip_initdb doesnt have to be 16Mb good lord.

I cant wait to throw a 16Gb sd card in this puppy.

mxip_initdb 16Mb
provision 2.72Mb
phcanoverbmp 1.96Mb
SnapVue 1.17Mb
msim.192 1.1Mb
GAC_System.xml_v2_0_0_0_0 .98Mb
gdiplus 987Kb
wmcore 949Kb
Gax_mscorlib 892Kb

[cmonex]

Ok i have tracked down my storage issues, the following files are taking half of my storage space, can someone shed some light as to what these files do?

mxip_initdb 16Mb
provision 2.72Mb
phcanoverbmp 1.96Mb
SnapVue 1.17Mb
msim.192 1.1Mb
GAC_System.xml_v2_0_0_0_0 .98Mb
gdiplus 987Kb
wmcore 949Kb
Gax_mscorlib 892Kb


the mxip_initdb initializes database stuff
phcan stuff is a dialer skin or similar
snapvue is snapvue
msim is for a software keyb
the GAC's (you mistyped second one) are for .net cf
i forget wmcore right now :/

[rpawly]

Well after scrubbing i got 10 megs free again of storage

pocketweather
opera mobile (just couldnt take loading java, its like a virus no?!?!)
projection digital clock
schaps reg editor

Cant really do anymore, i guess ill add office reader, and work on things for the project.

[Pawel062]

daniel is the only one that installed it and it bricked it. i was not brave enuf just getting back from brickdom myself.

blocktitlebar.exe is very interesting.

did you see the file list of things that are executed on startup?

PCPkInstall.txt

2008/03/11 15:20:00.306(0x41672fbe): Install Agent Version: 6.01, BuildNo: 1256, fFirstCall: 1, fPreviouslyInstalled: 0
2008/03/11 15:20:00.369(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:00.432(0x41672fbe): Enter: \Windows\SOTI\PocketController
2008/03/11 15:20:00.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:00.610(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.653(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.684(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:00.733(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.774(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.804(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.853(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.894(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.924(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.971(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.005(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.047(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.090(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.122(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.163(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:01.210(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.241(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.283(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.314(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.362(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(TotalRecall)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:01.422(0x41672fbe): Version: 5.2 Build: 1620
2008/03/11 15:20:01.453(0x41672fbe): Platform: PocketPC
2008/03/11 15:20:01.492(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:01.522(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.563(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.627(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:01.659(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.790(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.823(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.902(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.936(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.990(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.044(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.078(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.129(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.166(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.248(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.286(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:02.318(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.413(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.446(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.494(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:02.579(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(CTLPNL)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:02.684(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:03.870(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.054(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.087(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.174(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.271(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.306(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.441(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.475(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.510(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.545(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.579(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.623(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.663(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:03.694(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.743(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:04.774(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.891(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.972(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.055(0x41672fbe): Process: 831AE89E tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:04.114(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(MSTLI)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:04.145(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Init
2008/03/11 15:20:15.812(0x41672fbe): Enter: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:15.434(0x41672fbe): Failed to install: 0 folders, 0 files
2008/03/11 15:20:16.942(0x41672fbe): Enter: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.982(0x41672fbe): Exit: ExpressInstall_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:16.014(0x41672fbe): BF:GetPlatformInfo=clio Platform=pocketpc Name=
2008/03/11 15:20:16.223(0x41672fbe): Process: 034DF002 NK.EXE
2008/03/11 15:20:16.428(0x41672fbe): Process: 834D0B2E filesys.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.462(0x41672fbe): Process: E25D52E6 services.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.494(0x41672fbe): Process: A32F5DAE device.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.591(0x41672fbe): Process: E2CA27D6 gwes.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.625(0x41672fbe): Process: 625D598A shell32.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.660(0x41672fbe): Process: A24B3AC6 cprog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.695(0x41672fbe): Process: A294FC76 connmgr.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:16.727(0x41672fbe): Process: 823FA866 poutlook.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.762(0x41672fbe): Process: 8233C482 BlockTitleBar.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.796(0x41672fbe): Process: C20CFFC2 tmail.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.829(0x41672fbe): Process: 4109B0AA IntShrUI.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.864(0x41672fbe): Process: 2230AD2E quickmenu.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.899(0x41672fbe): Process: 61BDBAC2 fexplore.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.931(0x41672fbe): Process: 81BDB6C6 OperaWM.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.965(0x41672fbe): Process: A1F3D10E rapiclnt
2008/03/11 15:20:17.002(0x41672fbe): Process: E24B3982 repllog.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.036(0x41672fbe): Process: E1CE127E Wceload.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.072(0x41672fbe): Process: 4160E266 tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.234(0x41672fbe): Process: A2DD0266 pwupdater.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.290(0x41672fbe): Process: 01806DBE tmarshaller.exe
2008/03/11 15:20:17.361(0x41672fbe): FindProcess(PCCommLoader)=0x00000000
2008/03/11 15:20:17.490(0x41672fbe): Launch CommLoader
2008/03/11 15:20:18.843(0x41672fbe): Enter: LaunchApp
2008/03/11 15:20:18.439(0x41672fbe): Exit: LaunchApp OK
2008/03/11 15:20:18.637(0x41672fbe): Exit: Install_Exit
2008/03/11 15:20:19.862(0x41672fbe): End of install Agent Version = 6.01, BuildNo = 1256

block title bar just blocks the title bar, in other words the top black bar's certain bit. this is part of snapvue. nothing really interesting. as i said before, best way to remove snapvue is to replace snapvue.dll with one that is modded to show the start menu then get back everything else.

[Pawel062]

Also does anybody know anything about finding and unlocking Extended ROMs at all. Like on most of the phones they store install apps on them. If the Shift has one, and can be easily unlocked and updated then this maybe a way to automate the rebuild with disabling the "Snapvue" functionality without having to send files over data.

Currently I am living in Switzerland and the data tariff for my UK SIM is obviously void (and as a temporary worker getting data packages is almost impossible), so after a £400+ phone bill, my preference is to keep emailing to a minimum, even with the solution for disabling snapvue, you would still need to at minimum send over USBTool to allow access from Vista.

So any ideas RE extended ROM, I'd be happy to try...

i believe shift is like other new phones where it doesnt have ext rom.

[Pawel062]

Ok i have tracked down my storage issues, the following files are taking half of my storage space, can someone shed some light as to what these files do?

We only have 37.44Mb to start with, these 9 files is 27 megs of so we only got 10 megs left :(
i swear tha mxip_initdb doesnt have to be 16Mb good lord.

I cant wait to throw a 16Gb sd card in this puppy.

mxip_initdb 16Mb
provision 2.72Mb
phcanoverbmp 1.96Mb
SnapVue 1.17Mb
msim.192 1.1Mb
GAC_System.xml_v2_0_0_0_0 .98Mb
gdiplus 987Kb
wmcore 949Kb
Gax_mscorlib 892Kb

phcanoverbmp is for images for pin pad and usually also has some dialer images and sometimes battery images. rest cmonex explained well.

[Vs1979]

Re BlockTitleBar.exe I found that this is what also takes the Fn + Keys to control things like volume/brightness etc. When thinking this was the prog that covered the Start Menu and etc, I replaced it with winrar. When then testing for "open" key presses that may trigger something, I kept getting an application launch (It was winrar I replaced it with) with unknown command line errors.

Replaced the original file (i.e. deleted the winrar renamed to blocktitlebar.exe) and the FN + Keys were working again.

[rosrog]

Thanks to Daniel and other guys, i managed to edit the registry as described, execute now CAB Files without problems and also installed Quickmenu. Furthermore SPB Pocket plus, which has it all. And Documents to go, which enables now to read office files and PDFs. And I of course donated to the Shift project.

Thanks to all you guys. Cheers, S

Please, i also followed the info on editing the registry as described, but couldnt execute any .cab files. Did i miss anything, eg space, dot, etc from this (wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete)?

[sbueschi]

can you post the office reader cab?

i use the office 2007 cab, posted earlier, works for me. Alternative is Documents to go (not free, but good) http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/winmobile/index.html

[danielherrero]

Please, i also followed the info on editing the registry as described, but couldnt execute any .cab files. Did i miss anything, eg space, dot, etc from this (wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete)?
Remember you ve to modify the "Default" entry in "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\" path....

[sbueschi]

Please, i also followed the info on editing the registry as described, but couldnt execute any .cab files. Did i miss anything, eg space, dot, etc from this (wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete)?

no other things to do, just type very exactly as it was posted into the described line, then it should work. Dont forget to reboot then.

[Vs1979]

Also double check your spelling. The %1 should be between the quotes, and make sure they are proper Double Quotes not two single Quotes

You've written
wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete

it should be

wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete

[danielherrero]

Also double check your spelling. The %1 should be between the quotes, and make sure they are proper Double Quotes not two single Quotes

You've written
wceload.exe ''%''1 /nodelete

it should be

wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete

wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete

[killer_t]

Windows Mobile 6 + SnapVUE...

[danielherrero]

hehe, share, share

[sbueschi]

Windows Mobile 6 + SnapVUE...

Come on! how did you do that?

[killer_t]

hehe, share, share

Simply set to manual and stop SnapVue(SVT0: ) in Service tab
But in today leave the snapVUE theme...
It's pretty for me..:o

[danielherrero]

ahhhh, yes, yes The problem is snapvue service is necesary to get 3g connectivity in vista side....:(

[killer_t]

...wait...

I do not know how I did

I always have 3g connectivity in vista side

[danielherrero]

Reset the vista side and tell me if you continue getting it.....It would be a nice news. In my case dont

[killer_t]

OK...
Leave snapvue in all Today... Today element and theme!!

[killer_t]

I always used your descriptions Daniel, and my 3g connection in vista has always been on!!

and Now are on!!

i can do a video if you want..

[danielherrero]

NO no no I beleive you:)
I will try again...

[killer_t]

NO no no I beleive you:)
I will try again...

From Fabric factory i have
- I Send me mail with fexplorer and taskmanager.
- I have add fexplorer in startup directory (with Daniel trick) and reset snapvue from vista side.
- In fexplorer start taskmanager and i have set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.
- With regedit addon i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete



Now i have WM6 and i can install all i want, with all SnapVUE capabilities and 3G connection in vista\wm6 side.

[danielherrero]

Maybe Its only me but doesnt work for me. This is what I do.
1) Stop Snapvue and disable it.
2) Until this point I ve 3g in both sides
2) Reboot snapvue.
3) SnapVue service isnt executed on startup so Internet Share connection probably isnt launched (for me)
3) I cant get 3g on vista side... :(

[killer_t]

Maybe Its only me but doesnt work for me. This is what I do.
1) Stop Snapvue and disable it.
2) Until this point I ve 3g in both sides
2) Reboot snapvue.
3) SnapVue service isnt executed on startup so Internet Share connection probably isnt launched (for me)
3) I cant get 3g on vista side... :(

You have disable service in vista side? or upgrade vista?
I haven't upgrade vista..
In vista side, the shift comm button have all function? you can on-off the phone capabilities in vista?

[danielherrero]

No, I ve done anything in vista side.
You ve to disable it to no execute the service again when you reset snapview. If you dont disable it then SnapVue Service will be again up when you reset snapvue....

[killer_t]

No, I ve done anything in vista side.
You ve to disable it to no execute the service again when you reset snapview. If you dont disable it then SnapVue Service will be again up when you reset snapvue....

No i don't have disable anythink in vista...
try to set manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab, don't disable it, and restart all vista service.

[danielherrero]

But If I dont disable SnapVue service It will be up again when I reboot snapvue..... Other option is stop set it automatic and stop it each time you reset snapvue....

[killer_t]

we have an equal device.... It would be nice if we found the problem...

[killer_t]

But If I dont disable SnapVue service It will be up again when I reboot snapvue..... Other option is stop set it automatic and stop it each time you reset snapvue....

No, my snapvue in vista are always on, and when i reboot wm side, nothing happens, snapvue doesn't restart!! And my 3g connection are always on.

[rpawly]

No, my snapvue in vista are always on, and when i reboot wm side, nothing happens, snapvue doesn't restart!! And my 3g connection are always on.

Ok guys im up

killer give me a step by step of exactly what you want me to check. Dont leave any step out and ill follow exactly and let you know what i get.

[killer_t]

Ok guys im up

killer give me a step by step of exactly what you want me to check. Dont leave any step out and ill follow exactly and let you know what i get.

Ok Step by step i have do this action...

From Fabric factory i haven't touch NOTHING in Vista side...

In Windows mobile side i have

- Open new mail and into add file, chose image. Here copy/paste the folder startup in my document use ctrl-c ctrl-v.
- Send to you mail with taskmgr.exe, and this annex copy into startup folder just copied.
- Copy annex taskmng.exe into my document-startup
- Now recopy this folder into windows tree (use new mail, add image ctrl-c ctrl-v....)
- Reste SnapVUE from Vista.
- After restart, taskmanager appears and set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.
- With regedit addon (in taskmanager) i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete.
- That all i've doing.

Reset all.
After i've wm6 capabilities and 3g connection in Vista side

[rpawly]

Just to be sure, what to do you mean fabric factory?

I think you want me to perform a clearstorage?
If so please someone give me step by step on doing that as well

also please attach taskmgr.exe to this post
and the regedit is part of the file taskmgr?

and then you want a battery pull out to reset the snapvue side?

Ok Step by step i have do this action...

From Fabric factory i haven't touch NOTHING in Vista side...

In Windows mobile side i have

- Open new mail and into add file, chose image. Here copy/paste the folder startup in my document use ctrl-c ctrl-v.
- Send to you mail with taskmgr.exe, and this annex copy into startup folder just copied.
- Copy annex taskmng.exe into my document-startup
- Now recopy this folder into windows tree (use new mail, add image ctrl-c ctrl-v....)
- Reste SnapVUE from Vista.
- After restart, taskmanager appears and set to manual and stop SnapVue (SVT0: ) in Service tab.
- With regedit addon (in taskmanager) i go in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\ and under Value Data i have type wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete.
- That all i've doing.

Reset all.

[killer_t]

Just to be sure, what to do you mean fabric factory?

I think you want me to perform a clearstorage?
If so please someone give me step by step on doing that as well

also please attach taskmgr.exe to this post
and the regedit is part of the file taskmgr?

and then you want a battery pull out to reset the snapvue side?


Yesterday i have to do a clearstarage.exe (i've put inside windows startup) because wm6 with sim at startup are frozen. i remove sim and do clearstorage.exe..
After i've do step by step i've write in post, the taskmanager i've use, are attached in my post.
REMEMBER INSERT CLEARSTORAGE.INK INTO STARTUP FOLDER.

I've install resco esplorer 2007 - taskmanager -Opera Full. if you want i link this 3 software with rapidshare ..

[killer_t]

Inside this LINK (http://rapidshare.com/files/99503553/Activate_Windows_Mobile_6_on_HTC_Shift.zip.html) there's Opera, Rescoexplorer and Taskmanager i've use...:)

[rpawly]

Inside thisthere's Opera, Rescoexplorer and Taskmanager i've use...:)

can you please document the clearstorage part of the process, im retarded :)

[killer_t]

can you please document the clearstorage part of the process, im retarded :)

Simply with rescoexplorer, copy clearstorage.exe, go in startup folder, and paste link here.

[danielherrero]

Hi.
Please be caferul with the files posted. Resco Explorer is a pay program so admins can remove it...:eek:

[killer_t]

Hi.
Please be caferul with the files posted. Resco Explorer is a pay program so admins can remove it...:eek:

Thank you, just correct!! :D:D

[killer_t]

Daniel you have to do something??
Your 3g connection are on?

[danielherrero]

Hi.
It works if the service is up the snapvue boots and then is stoped manually but It doesnt work (for me)if the service is disabled to not be executed after reset.---

[Settembrini]

Thanks to Daniel and other guys, i managed to edit the registry as described, execute now CAB Files without problems and also installed Quickmenu. Furthermore SPB Pocket plus, which has it all. And Documents to go, which enables now to read office files and PDFs. And I of course donated to the Shift project.

Thanks to all you guys. Cheers, S

Hi sbueschi,
I want to use SPB Pocket Plus as well. After some time now, have you got any problems with it?
On my HTC Vario II I tried to use Quickmenu and Pocket Plus together which didn't work fine. Any problems there? Which one is more useful in Snapvue's case?

Thanks
Settembrini

[killer_t]

Hi.
It works if the service is up the snapvue boots and then is stoped manually but It doesnt work (for me)if the service is disabled to not be executed after reset.---

why don't you set it to manual and stop it?

[danielherrero]

hehe Yes I can but I reset the device several times per day and I will forget it most of the times. The other problem is that snapvue service replace the current theme after reset. My wish is to set my custom theme and see the start button but I should to stop snapvue service after reset and then set again my theme :(

[sbueschi]

Hi sbueschi,
I want to use SPB Pocket Plus as well. After some time now, have you got any problems with it?
On my HTC Vario II I tried to use Quickmenu and Pocket Plus together which didn't work fine. Any problems there? Which one is more useful in Snapvue's case?

Thanks
Settembrini

settembrini

i use pocket plus since approx 2 years on all my recent WM devices (Artemis, Kaiser and Pharos) and i never had an issue. I must maybe mention that i use a regular version i paid for :-) in Snapvue so far i used Quickmenu, did not install SPB, resp reinstalled it again for storage space reasons. I would not recommend to use both in parallel on the same device anyway since many functions are similar (todayscreen functions etc) and i can imagine this is confusing the system.

[tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk]

Its been a couple of days since i've contributed - i needed to go out and earn some money. looks like you guys are doing loads and getting somewhere.

All has not been quiet in the meantime.

I have 12.23 mb storage free with:
- Office Mobile 6.1
- IE 6.1
- Total Commander (for registry hacking)
AND
- RealVGA 96dpi settings - I have uninstalled the actual software as it has done its job.

Some of you guys (Daniel/rpawley) seem reluctant to disable the snapvue dll. I have had this disabled for three days now - no issues whatsoever and I have perfectly fine 3G access from Vista. Also, my Fn keys all work okay. Because I couldn't work out how to disable it, I just deleted the service from the registry.

A couple of screenshots attached. 96dpi is fantastic. At this res.you can use Excel and Word properly and reading and writing emails is a pleasure. Vista becomes redundant for the most part and so I get to work for a lot longer without access to a power supply.

rpawley, you listed a number of big files, some of which you have deleted. Which ones?

I am going to install a couple of bits of software (acrobat reader) and then hang fire till we can work out how to make use of the sd card. For me, this beautiful device is primarily a business device and so I'm not bothered about music, movies, etc. More about how I am going to finish a proposal, catch up with emails and do a bit of research on a mammoth train/plane journey.

I was using it on the train the other day, sharing a table with a couple of strangers who begged me to demonstrate the machine, which I took pleasure in doing. Believe me , they were suitably impressed (and envious) - one being a laptop toting professional, the other a blackberry user. Both saw the benefit of replacing their device with this.

Although I was engrossed in hacking the WM side during the remainder of the three hour journey, one of my fellow travellers pointed out to me that I was getting a load of envious looks from other passengers that were walking past.

[sbueschi]

Guys

anyone discovered yet a key combination to hardreset the mobile part?
I bricked it somehow by overwriting webview.dll when i installed
internet explorer and now the mobile part has a frozen surface, meaning
taping and keyboard doesnt work at all. soft reset from vista works but once snapvue is up its frozen, i therefore cant enter anything to access clearstorage. Help much appreciated, S

[cmonex]

Guys

anyone discovered yet a key combination to hardreset the mobile part?
I bricked it somehow by overwriting webview.dll when i installed
internet explorer and now the mobile part has a frozen surface, meaning
taping and keyboard doesnt work at all. soft reset from vista works but once snapvue is up its frozen, i therefore cant enter anything to access clearstorage. Help much appreciated, S

it won't popup a notification if you send an sms or something? could we talk on msn (icq or yahoo works too)? just PM me with your msn address. the reason i'm asking is your device doesn't have much to lose so we can experiment to see how to hard reset it.

[danielherrero]

Tito which version of realvga did you install?
I installed a cab I found on athena forum and bricked my device. When wm booted the directory \windows\startup wasnt executed so I couldnt do the tipical trick in these cases. Of course Quickmenu stopped working so I couldnt launch file explorer or other program. Finally I had to return it to the shop and they gave me a new one.....

[tito.golder@hotmail.co.uk]

Tito which version of realvga did you install?
I installed a cab I found on athena forum and bricked my device. When wm booted the directory \windows\startup wasnt executed so I couldnt do the tipical trick in these cases. Of course Quickmenu stopped working so I couldnt launch file explorer or other program. Finally I had to return it to the shop and they gave me a new one.....

Yep, that's the one I used. My theory is that the snapvue dll was your problem. I had already disabled mine. Remember that at 96dpi, your title bar is smaller - maybe snapvue got confused and decided to kill your baby.

[danielherrero]

And what exactly you did to disable snapvue? Do you mean to change the today theme? stop snapvue service?

[kornelt]

Hi all,
I am probably one of the few people in the world with an orange brnded htc shift, not that it matters, but Im willing to help out and test stuff out. Just offering my help :)

[cmonex]

Hi all,
I am probably one of the few people in the world with an orange brnded htc shift, not that it matters, but Im willing to help out and test stuff out. Just offering my help :)

is it sim unlocked?

[kornelt]

it wasnt, but now it is.

[Pantaloonie]

it wasnt, but now it is.

More details please - how much did Orange charge for the unit, what is the data package like, how did you get it unlocked?

[rpawly]

Hi sbueschi,
I want to use SPB Pocket Plus as well. After some time now, have you got any problems with it?
On my HTC Vario II I tried to use Quickmenu and Pocket Plus together which didn't work fine. Any problems there? Which one is more useful in Snapvue's case?

Thanks
Settembrini

Keep in mind the memory constraints we have for now. Using big front ends can really eat your storage/program memory. the shift doesnt have as much memory as a phone does.

[rpawly]

Its been a couple of days since i've contributed - i needed to go out and earn some money. looks like you guys are doing loads and getting somewhere.

All has not been quiet in the meantime.

I have 12.23 mb storage free with:
- Office Mobile 6.1
- IE 6.1
- Total Commander (for registry hacking)
AND
- RealVGA 96dpi settings - I have uninstalled the actual software as it has done its job.

Some of you guys (Daniel/rpawley) seem reluctant to disable the snapvue dll. I have had this disabled for three days now - no issues whatsoever and I have perfectly fine 3G access from Vista. Also, my Fn keys all work okay. Because I couldn't work out how to disable it, I just deleted the service from the registry.

A couple of screenshots attached. 96dpi is fantastic. At this res.you can use Excel and Word properly and reading and writing emails is a pleasure. Vista becomes redundant for the most part and so I get to work for a lot longer without access to a power supply.

rpawley, you listed a number of big files, some of which you have deleted. Which ones?

I am going to install a couple of bits of software (acrobat reader) and then hang fire till we can work out how to make use of the sd card. For me, this beautiful device is primarily a business device and so I'm not bothered about music, movies, etc. More about how I am going to finish a proposal, catch up with emails and do a bit of research on a mammoth train/plane journey.

I was using it on the train the other day, sharing a table with a couple of strangers who begged me to demonstrate the machine, which I took pleasure in doing. Believe me , they were suitably impressed (and envious) - one being a laptop toting professional, the other a blackberry user. Both saw the benefit of replacing their device with this.

Although I was engrossed in hacking the WM side during the remainder of the three hour journey, one of my fellow travellers pointed out to me that I was getting a load of envious looks from other passengers that were walking past.

I think i just felt something run through my body seeing the 96 dpi :))