Tilt + Motorola S9 = Audio Skipping

[pittaman]

I can barely play a podcast or song without it skipping around and sounding terrible. I’ve looked around for possible a2dp fixes, but cant seem to find anything that works. I tried the cab fix floating around, and it seemed to make it worse...

Anyone else having this issue, or know of a fix?

Ill even try a new ROM if need be. I’m current running the latest stock AT&T ROM at the moment.... haven’t tried any homebrew stuff on the tilt yet. I just broke open my old 8125 and installed WM6.1 with the touch flow cube... that was cool!

[DarkDvr]

Don't use bluetooth headsets, but there is a fix for that in kaiserTweak as far as I remember. Besides, I've seen lots of threads about bluetooth issues here. You should search around.

[pittaman]

Don't use bluetooth headsets, but there is a fix for that in kaiserTweak as far as I remember. Besides, I've seen lots of threads about bluetooth issues here. You should search around.

Wow... Dont use one... Great idea... Thanks for the advice.

Im gunna go return my Tilt and grab one of those bag phones off eBay today. Screw technology....

[Jay2TheRescue]

I haven't had an issue streaming internet radio over my S9's, on the old or new ROM. There are some BT tweaks in advanced config though...

-Jay

[pittaman]

You talking bout the advanced config in KaiserTweak? I just unlocked my tilt and installed Dutty's latest and it still does it...

What advanced config are you refering to?

EDIT:: I just noticed there was an advanced config in system settings on Dutty's... playing with the BT settings now... but even the call quality with the S9 is garbage...

Using radio 1.58.26.20

[Jay2TheRescue]

You talking bout the advanced config in KaiserTweak? I just unlocked my tilt and installed Dutty's latest and it still does it...

What advanced config are you refering to?

EDIT:: I just noticed there was an advanced config in system settings on Dutty's... playing with the BT settings now... but even the call quality with the S9 is garbage...

Using radio 1.58.26.20
Advanced config is a similar program to Kaiser Tweak. It is made by Shapp's. You mentioned that you saw it in your Dutty ROM. Dutty may have baked that Shapp's goodness right in...

-Jay

[mike19722]

Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are fuckn' awsome.....

Peace
Mike

[Jay2TheRescue]

Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are fuckn' awsome.....
Peace
Mike


I agree. I wear mine to the gym. I stream internet radio over an HSDPA connection on my Tilt to the S9's. I can't stand when I forget to bring my S9's and I have to use a wired headset with an mp3 player. The wires really annoy me.

-Jay

[pittaman]

Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are fuckn' awsome.....

Peace
Mike

I had my bitpool set at 20... Max 80... Everything else the same... Heard lower bit pool was better... haven’t tested your settings yet, but i did notice something strange. I paired the headset to my buddies laptop, and the audio worked fine after a few seconds...

Paired it back up with my phone, and as long as I’m not holing it in front of me (the phone), the audio was actually fine. Holding it in front of me, and having it gripped as if i was just holding it to hold it, covering up the majority of the phone, the audio sucked.... I placed it on the table in front of me, and off to the side, and the audio re-establishes a decent quality... really strange....

do the radio versions make a diff on the BT quality for a2dp? Should I try a different radio....?

[nomarhits400]

I had my bitpool set at 20... Max 80... Everything else the same... Heard lower bit pool was better... haven’t tested your settings yet, but i did notice something strange. I paired the headset to my buddies laptop, and the audio worked fine after a few seconds...

Paired it back up with my phone, and as long as I’m not holing it in front of me (the phone), the audio was actually fine. Holding it in front of me, and having it gripped as if i was just holding it to hold it, covering up the majority of the phone, the audio sucked.... I placed it on the table in front of me, and off to the side, and the audio re-establishes a decent quality... really strange....

do the radio versions make a diff on the BT quality for a2dp? Should I try a different radio....?

I am sure you may have already tried this, but turning of WiFi eliminated this problem for me...Very annoying to be sure.

[pittaman]

I am sure you may have already tried this, but turning of WiFi eliminated this problem for me...Very annoying to be sure.

Huh... didnt think about that.... although i usually have wifi off anyway.... ill double check :-)

At least its more widespread than i thought.... is it just an A2DP issuie? it didnt seem to do it with a regular BT headset for talking.... and using the s9 for a conversation didnt seem to suffer the same issuie either... just sterio audio...

[Ransom342]

Wireless is off and bit pool is down to 64 but I still have the "skipping" issue about 3 or 4 times a song

[pittaman]

Yeah i have the settings set like suggested, but still have the issue when the device is obstructed.... I suppose thats just the nature of the beast. Not sure what else to do...

Will a different radio version provide different bluetooth performance?

[Steve-C]

Hate to say this, but I bought some S9's yesterday and they seem to be great! I'm using the default settings for A2DP.

However, I can see that there might be issues if the phone is directly infront of your head, since the transmitter and the receiver would have your head between them. Doesn't bode well for having the phone in your pocket and using the controls on the headphones does it! I'll see how they fare over the week with normal usage and then see if I'm still pleased!

[pittaman]

Hate to say this, but I bought some S9's yesterday and they seem to be great! I'm using the default settings for A2DP.

However, I can see that there might be issues if the phone is directly infront of your head, since the transmitter and the receiver would have your head between them. Doesn't bode well for having the phone in your pocket and using the controls on the headphones does it! I'll see how they fare over the week with normal usage and then see if I'm still pleased!

I found some posts saying to delete the reg keys involving min and max bitpool, and that seemed to help somewhat... and it seem slike after the first bit of skippage, it seems to be fine.... all this and I havent had time to hit the gym to really try it out yet lol... Ill report back when I know more real world testing... on my desk seemed fine...

[surur]

S9's are just crap. I have a set, and I hate mine, due to the constant interruptions unless there is direct line of sight between the transmitter and the receiver, and the pressure they put on my ears while still being very loose at the same time.

Not recommended.


Surur

[Steve-C]

Well, here is the report back! I'm still pleased. Tonight I gave them a real work out streaming audio through WMP since it's the biggest memory hog, surfing the net using Opera Mobile via a WiFi connection, logged into Skype and MSN and occasionally sending/receiving SMS. There was one heck of a lag whilst sliding the keyboard out. i could type SMS, but it took a few seconds for the screen to catch up. Im not dissapointed since all the other apps were running in the background at the time and would have all been reformatting for the switch to landscape mode. However, the S9's were perfect. No jumping, skipping, or lagging at any point, and I could use the headset audio controls without delay no matter what else was being done to the phone.

All in all, a great set of headphones and I reckon will give me 5 days of use based on around 4hours a day of music use. However the Kaiser is only just lasting a day now I'm using approx 5hours of the screen being constantly on, with 3 hours being WiFi use, and 4 being streaming music. Bigger battery time and larger memory card me thinks! (Larger card, cos I want to store more music than a 2GB card will let me!)

[smittyofdhs]

Hey guys the problem isn't totally the Tilt's fault. Playing with the Tilt's BT settings will make it a bit better, the real issue is in the S9. The BT radio is not very strong. If you review the S9 manual it will show that the phone has to be put into the "optimized zone' of the body, which is basically above the waist and below the neck and preferably to the left or right side of the body. Yes I know it's BT and it should go 30 feet and does well (not quite 30 feet) as long as the device is not right up next to something, like your body. Also, make sure nothing is covering the back bar of the S9. i can use my hand to cover the bar (where the radio is) and I will get drops immediately. i found this out because the first day I tried to use the S9 I had a jacket with a big thick collar. I would get skips left and right. Once I moved the device to the "optimized location" and made sure the s9 wasn't obstructed then I got good signal.

I think the s9 is great for workouts where you can leave your Tilt sitting on the bench, then you can go without any issue. As long as you don't throw your sweat towel over the Tilt. :)

[Jay2TheRescue]

Hey guys the problem isn't totally the Tilt's fault. Playing with the Tilt's BT settings will make it a bit better, the real issue is in the S9. The BT radio is not very strong. If you review the S9 manual it will show that the phone has to be put into the "optimized zone' of the body, which is basically above the waist and below the neck and preferably to the left or right side of the body. Yes I know it's BT and it should go 30 feet and does well (not quite 30 feet) as long as the device is not right up next to something, like your body. Also, make sure nothing is covering the back bar of the S9. i can use my hand to cover the bar (where the radio is) and I will get drops immediately. i found this out because the first day I tried to use the S9 I had a jacket with a big thick collar. I would get skips left and right. Once I moved the device to the "optimized location" and made sure the s9 wasn't obstructed then I got good signal.

I think the s9 is great for workouts where you can leave your Tilt sitting on the bench, then you can go without any issue. As long as you don't throw your sweat towel over the Tilt. :)
That's all I've ever used the S9's for is going to the gym. I usually either have the Tilt in the cupholder of the treadmill, or otherwise I have it on the floor at my feet while I'm using another piece of equipment. Never had any problems with it.

-Jay

[Ender666666]

For what it's worth, I own both a pair of S9's and a pair of Motorola HT820's. As much as I love the size and styling of the S9's, they do not hold a candle to the HT820's.

As mentioned in previous posts, I believe that the BT antenna on the S9's is extremely weak, and perhaps they lack a large buffer for streamed audio? What leads me to suspect this is that when using my HT820's, I can go a long distance from my device without skipping or interruption, even having music play on for a few seconds after going outside of what I would reasonably think their range would be.

With my S9's, all I need to do is turn my head the wrong way to have skipping.

If I was buying again, I would never spend money on the S9 headset again. Try as you might, tweaking out out device settings won't really fix your reception.

Anyhow, that's my $0.02

[ucanthang]

Got my s9's a week ago and honestly I wasn't expecting them to be as good as they are. I could see that the s9's are limited by the size and shape of an individuals head. Although in my case they fit quite well. The sound coming from resco radio was extraordinary. The only thing that made the sound drop out is if i turned a corner and had a wall obstruction. Prior to getting this set though I did use Kaiser tweaks to change my bluetooth settings I don't know if that makes a substantial difference. I have nothing bad to say about them though.

[Steve-C]

I have nothing bad to say about them though.

I do! They are blooming addictive! :D

[bwolmarans]

Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are fuckn' awsome.....

Peace
Mike

Worked for me. Thanks, Mike.

[mrddp3]

The S9's worked perfectly with my Treo 750. I upgraded to the Tilt and all i get is choppy, skipping music. Help me plz.....:confused:

[MarkanthonY]

I would use mine when patrolling the parking lot of a local hotel. I would leave my Tilt in the cup holder of the golf cart and check two or three cars for damage. My S9's never skipped. I especially liked the deep bass I would get when using WOW HD settings. Now I am supervising at a college so I don't get a chance to use them as much. I also had about 4 Gigs of music videos, so I was never bored.