Average battery life?

[TIGman]

So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.

[Doctor Mick]

You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.

If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.

[TIGman]

You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.

If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
Thanks, I was about to download something to moniter the consumption. I'll give it a shot when I get home from school

[enaime]

I have the same issue with my battery. I use it for med-heavy. By the end of the day Im at like 15%. That sux.

[iceqbe]

I've installed S2U2...does this application drain the battery also?

[the cheshire cat]

monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it

if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet

your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count

bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power

lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days

[enaime]

monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it

if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet

your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count

bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power

lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days

2 DAYS UNPLUGGED? Are you kidding me. On standby or using it. Im thinking this battery is horrible. If I dont plug in every night, im in trouble.

[Bingoig11]

If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.

I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...

[Tranworld]

I have Battery Status ver. 0.5 but don't see CPU scaler, is it only available in the Beta version?

[daniel_rh]

1 to 2 days of life with normal-full use. Up to 4-6 days in standby with almost no use

[enaime]

If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.

I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...

Can you please give me more info on the battery status software and cpu scaler?

Do you have an Elf or Elfin?

[Bingoig11]

I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use ;)

Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.

[enaime]

I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use ;)

Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.

Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.

PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.

[TIGman]

monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it

if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet

your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count

bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power

lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days

I turn off the wi-fi when I'm not at home. I'm always within service area, so the GSM radio stays. I don't use bluetooth. It's set to go into standby mode after 2mins. On Thursday, I took it off of the charger at 8:30am had a couple classes till 3pm, so light-to-medium use. It was dead by 3:30pm. I did install BatteryStatus later that night, and figured out the scaler, and it helped the next day. But honestly I shouldn't have to underclock it in order for it to last even a day, a bit ridiculous to me.

Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.

PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.

I have a Touch enhanced, and am using the CPU scaler just dandy. Just play with the settings a bit, and you'll get the hang of it. Try LOW:100 and HIGH:234, to start out, then go from there.

[grandpareza]

So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.

Visit the Kaiser forum. We're having the same issue. GPS seems to be the problem with me. As soon as I turned on GPS, it sucked my battery 5% in 5-7 minutes. Then down to 73% from 97% in 3 hours.

[Bingoig11]

Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.

PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.

I didn't configure anything particular, just installed it and set the overclock and CPU Scaler. :D

[nadroba]

I talk an average of 2 hours daily. Since 6 am until 8 pm. I always get home with 15% or less. Using batt status with omap overclocking to 247. Average use of pda also.

[enaime]

I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use ;)

Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.

Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.

[nmesisca]

Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.

Im on 87/201/247 and boost to 260MHz, everything works fine, only some flickering when it runs on 87MHz..
But the battery life is quite good as it lasts for 2 to 3 days (light to medium usage, some texts, some phone calls, seldom Wifi)..
I have to say that the stock battery lasts much less then the one I got from Brando.. although the amperage is the same :confused:

[.dredd.]

I finally use xcpuscalar only for conserving battery, not for overclock. In another threads some people suffering from spotted, patched even broken LCDs and I do not take the risk to overclock Elfin because of possible overheat of the CPU and the CPU is most likely very close to the LCD due to the thinness of the Elfin. If the CPU is hotter overclocked than it is on normal speed it could cause spot, patch or even damage on LCD. This is my opinion.
Xcpuscalar is able to downgrade dynamically the CPU speed against Batterystatus which is only able to set one speed for the CPU, that's why I chosen xcpuscalar.
It seems to work fine even after soft reset... but 87MHz is very slow for me... it speeds up very sluggish. I use 169, 182 and 195MHz settings.
Will see the energy spare on the battery.

[Tranworld]

I am using this and can report that it does save battery, I wouldn't call it a 2 days run yet, even though I can end the day at 50%, I would still not risk running out in the middle of the day so I charge every night, however I am comfortable using it all day without worry.

You see even if you end the day with 50% battery left, overnight it will consume some more then if by 4pm next day you need to have a long conversation and do something you are dead. I can only charge when at home, nowhere else so I can only use it the full day, not over 2 days.

The Touch is strange, some early reviews praised its battery life as incredible, and yet how come we have so much issue with battery life?

[nik_for_you]

If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.

I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...

which plan you are using for unlimited internet access? and what is monthly charge/??

I am having 10mb for 6 euros..

[enaime]

I am using this and can report that it does save battery, I wouldn't call it a 2 days run yet, even though I can end the day at 50%, I would still not risk running out in the middle of the day so I charge every night, however I am comfortable using it all day without worry.

You see even if you end the day with 50% battery left, overnight it will consume some more then if by 4pm next day you need to have a long conversation and do something you are dead. I can only charge when at home, nowhere else so I can only use it the full day, not over 2 days.

The Touch is strange, some early reviews praised its battery life as incredible, and yet how come we have so much issue with battery life?

I have to totally agree with you on that one. I am NOT impressed with the battery life by any means. Its crap compared to my Wizard. But, the batterystatus prgram sure helps. I use bluetooth in the car a lot and I do end the day about 45-50% battery life, which is good. Before batterystatus it was like 20-25% as I rush to plug it in.

I originally use 100/201/247 speeds with no boost. But, I noticed that using 95/201/201 with a boost to 227 works well and conserves a lot of battery.

[Tranworld]

My setting is 99/201/234

234 is the maximum that my Touch can work without mishap, I used to have a boost to 260 but noticed once in a while that it misbehaved. Now when your phone freeze or reset it is quite inconvenient as it takes a long time to reboot (not to mention battery use) so I prefer to stick with minimal overclocking and go through the day without problem.

The phone now works without a hitch, end the day around 60% of battery and recharge every night, that's to be sure of a full day no issue.

Now if someone can report better battery life using the Seidoi 1500mA battery then I would not mind buying that. I've read contradictory discussion though (that it is no better than the stock battery)

[andrei.nica]

I searched for some software to monitor battery drainage, but I got nothing more than what battery status informs about: instant battery drainage. However, as battery life is a major issue for me, I solved that by adding to my battery a small foil that improves battery life. Details can be found on http://www.akkufresh.com. I bought the foil for about 8 USD and after one month of charge-discharge cycles it really got to doing what they said on the website. These japanese are really smart people.

[bububang]

how u all underclocked to 99mhz without problem? i try to underclock at that and i found glitter images..

[nadroba]

I searched for some software to monitor battery drainage, but I got nothing more than what battery status informs about: instant battery drainage. However, as battery life is a major issue for me, I solved that by adding to my battery a small foil that improves battery life. Details can be found on http://www.akkufresh.com. I bought the foil for about 8 USD and after one month of charge-discharge cycles it really got to doing what they said on the website. These japanese are really smart people.
How did you get this. I am interested but the site only sells shovels, saws and other tools.

[andrei.nica]

How did you get this. I am interested but the site only sells shovels, saws and other tools.

the website http://akkufresh.com/ sells only battery foils. the fact that you are from Guatemala though is a problem for obtaining the foils, as I could not find anyone that sold them not even on ebay. if you are really interested, let me know, as I might have 2 or 3 pieces at home that I could send you.

[whitewindhtc]

As the phone is being used it generates more heat from various components inside the phone. The phone will conduct the heat through the back surface of the battery compartment and eventually into the battery itself.

In order to maximize battery life and reduce battery wear, it is important to keep the battery temperature as low as reasonably possible. The "Akkufresh" foil is just acting as an thermal insulation barrier between the li-ion battery and the phone's circuitry. A good and cheap alternative to the Akkufresh foil is to use an Aluminum foil + paper sandwich behind the battery.

ie. Layer as follows

Battery
^
Paper
^
Alu. Foil
^
Battery Compartment

I have also used this method on laptop batteries as well.

Hope this helps some ppl.

[zepto]

Just 1 day by heavy use.

[Mochan]

I just got myself a Touch Elfin yesterday and man, I am going to try that Battery Status workaround, I can't believe how abyssmal the battery life is. I don't even last half a day with normal phone/PDA work and light WiFi usage (like 30 mins). I charged this and unplugged at around 4pm today, and it's now 11:40pm and I am already at 32% battery life. I mean what?!

I can't belive some reviewers said they were getting 4 days out of this. Will use the battery status app to see if I can get some improvement, but its' definitely a step down from the battery life of the Prophet or the i780 which I also have.

It has the worst battery life of all the PPCs I have owned, and I've owned a lot. It's slightly worse than the XDA Atom, which used to be the king of bad battery life for me. But with work and tweaks even the Atom could do 2 days, I am still having trouble getting this one to last more than half a day with my normal usage.

[Mochan]

Hey guys, how do you install Battery Status? When I try to install I get a "Installation of BatteryStatusExt.1.04.CAB was unsuccessful." error.

Do I need to install another app to work in tandem with this?

[gronostaj]

Get latest version, it's now called HomeScreen Plus Plus and works fine.

[Mochan]

Gotcha I'll try that later.

[Mochan]

I did some testing and was able to get the HTC Touch to have decent battery life overnight, with about 10% power drain over a 12 hour period of not using it.

Basically I turned of HTC Home and just used default Windows Today plugins. Bluetooth is always on.

I also found that this device's WiFi radio drains battery very quickly, far faster than most other models. The drain is similar to that of the XDA Atom Exec, which was by far the worst WiFi battery drainer I ever owned. With the Touch, I was at 86% battery, then I turned on WiFi and surfed with Opera 9.5 for about 5 minutes, when I checked the battery again I was down to 74%. Horrid. This explains why my phone ran out of battery yesterday when I WiFi surfed for like 30 minutes.

In comparison using WiFi on the Prophet would only go down 4% for like 20 minutes of use, a little faster on the Universal and iPaq 6300, and about even on the i780.

The Touch is truly best as a straight phone -- small, pocketable and good bluetooth performance, runs Voice Command very well, and with some PDA PIM use capabilities, but it is not a workhorse by any stretch especially for WiFi.

That's fine, I'll be using this as my phone primarily, I have other devices for WiFi and HSDPA like the iPod Touch. I sold my i780 but I am looking to get another non-Samsung phone for my HSDPA needs, like maybe the iPhone 3G or the Diamond.