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diigibio
28th February 2008, 05:31 PM
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I love this forum. I have learn't so much so far, but still have a lot to learn. Epecially programming for WM. Anyway, on to the reason for posting this thread.

Since learning that I could flash from my microSD card thanks to the tutorial by renaming the *.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and placing it in the root folder. I have been making custom 1st splash screens to flash remotely as well as making a directory on my microSd ("Flashing from MicroSD") and creating directories for original roms such as (\WM6 Originals\Alex\KAISIMG.nbh) or (\WM6.1\SleuthV3\KAISIMG.nbh), (I also have KAISIMG for just Radios under a different folder) so when I want to try a new rom, flash a different radio or splash, I can at anytime.

Here's the thing I love using the splash tools (maker and converter) and Rom Builder. But obviously you need a PC. Would anyone by able to recreate a mobile version of these tools so we could do most things (customisation wise) whilst we are mobile.

I.E. I want to make and flash a new splash whilst mobile from a *.jpg. I could use this program to convert to .bmp format needed, then convert to *.nb thsn to *.nbh. I could then use a file manager to rename to KAISIMG.nbh then place in microSD root folder and flash.

What you think? Would this be too hard to do? Anyone want more mobile control of your mobile customisation?

Other tools that could be ported would also help. I make the welcome.96.png with my mobile graphics problems.

Well for the moment I'll stick to making several themed splash into the KAISIMG.nbh to flash remotely (making sure you have enough battery mind/dont flash on 10% or something/I recommend over 10% for mobile flashing your splashes and over 50% for you WM Roms)

Got a collection of around 19 Slide out Keyboard sounds inc Knightrider, Thundercats, Xbox 360 boot sound and others. When I have a couple more made I'll post my Sliding keyboard Sounds.cab if anybody wants it over the next Couple of days. (Some sounds gathered from other users share i.e. Mario etc) See this post for my collection of sounds: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372999

Thanks anyway. Feel free to post your views and look forward to seeing if anyone is up to this challenge..

for ever an xda padawan (as no-one ever knows everything)

diigibio

diigibio
28th February 2008, 07:01 PM
Ok, here I go again. How about this??

I have a mini-usb to female USB connector which came with my Archos AV700TV for OTG (On The Go). Which allows me to insert my 4GB usb stick into the Archos. Where I can play, copy, delete or edit anything on the stick.

These connectors don't cost a lot and in my point of view would be a great advantage to those of us that want to Flash our Roms and Splash screens etc whilst we are at work or as a passenger in a car. I would like to leave my memory card with just my programs and music.

By having OTG on our devices I/we could keep all our KAISIMG.nbh (Orginal Roms, Custom Roms, Roms we are trying, Radios, Splash) All on a Usb stick, just lease a Maximum of 150MB on memory card. So that when you want to Flash a Rom. You connect your usb stick via small (mini-usb to female usb) into Kaiser (or other/I'm not Phonist) And use either an already existing filemanager (Resco/Total Commander etc) or created app (developed for sole OTG purpose) to copy \Custom Rom\Alex\WM6.1\Version 3\KAISIMG.nbh to the root of your memory card. Disconnect usb stick boot into bootloader and flash image.

You could also keep all your backup .cab files on the stick and perhaps ask the writer of Tier Auto Install to allow these to be read off such a device as a usb stick using (OTG).

And at only a guess if OTG was created for our phones I'm sure they could possible support higher size usb sticks than our microSDHC cards.

Only an Idea though. CAN ANYONE HELP?????

l3v5y
28th February 2008, 09:17 PM
The USB OTG protocol is a hardware thing. Most WM devices do not have the ability to host a USB port, and so cannot initiate the connection needed to acheive what you want.

diigibio
28th February 2008, 10:22 PM
The USB OTG protocol is a hardware thing. Most WM devices do not have the ability to host a USB port, and so cannot initiate the connection needed to acheive what you want.

Never Mind then just thought with it being (Universal Serial Bus) I thought we could perhaps do something along the lines of WM5Storage. Thought it'ld just be a driver plus writing a relevant protocal script.

Thanks for the input anyway.

diigibio

diigibio
28th February 2008, 10:41 PM
Please Read this: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/1822

And this:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb202176.aspx

l3v5y
28th February 2008, 10:43 PM
The kaiser doesn't have the correct hardware...

diigibio
28th February 2008, 10:46 PM
The kaiser doesn't have the correct hardware...

Yes you said and I submitted. No harm in extra reading material as this is something I'm interested. Besides there is nothing much else to do in Blackpool at the moment.

Gonna go read..

diigibio

l3v5y
28th February 2008, 10:47 PM
Yes you said and I submitted. No harm in extra reading material as this is something I'm interested. Besides there is nothing much else to do in Blackpool at the moment.

Gonna go read..

diigibio

Now, what resistors do I have to solder where to make it work........

diigibio
28th February 2008, 10:51 PM
Now, what resistors do I have to solder where to make it work........

Who knows!! LOL

Gonna, try and by a cheap otg hd with built in led and see if it picks up the phone, maybe using the WM5Storage program so the otg hd might recognise it as the otg drive would be the host and has the hardware.

Even if it works, a bit bigger than something that can be carried around the neck... :rolleyes:

I'm Bored...

l3v5y
28th February 2008, 10:54 PM
If you have a OTG archos, couldn't you use that?

diigibio
28th February 2008, 11:04 PM
If you have a OTG archos, couldn't you use that?

Yeah, tried just now it comes up with portable storage device connected, but has some kind of error "USB Device could not be read correctly. Please try again".

It charges my phone though, so that a positive at least. Can use it as a portable battery pack as I take my archos everywhere. And I can charge that at work.

Maybe the error is caused because the phone has multiple memory types: Flash, microSD. Maybe it needs some software to point it in the right direction.???

l3v5y
28th February 2008, 11:06 PM
Even when using WM5torage?

diigibio
28th February 2008, 11:11 PM
Even when using WM5torage?

Yes, I have version 1.8. Don't know if this is recent and I'm using WM6.1 (Sleuth V3)

It reads card via card reader though via otg.

diigibio
29th February 2008, 12:14 AM
Ah, Softtick Card Export Works fine direct to archos. Still not quite what I was after but would sufice.

l3v5y
29th February 2008, 07:49 PM
I gotta get me one of those...

diigibio
29th February 2008, 11:32 PM
I gotta get me one of those...

I love my Archos AV700TV. Just got two of my colleagues one each for £150 inc postage.

7inch Screen, TV-OUT/TV-IN Freeview TV with Quality Aerials plus Aerial Car suction cup mounts. OTG go with cool browser, Pics, games, movies (including divx) Great battery life 40gb HD by default (up to 100GB) Can record freeview straight to box with included aerials or using TV Aerial to Mini-usb adapter. Also has a schedular feature, Portable USB 2.0 Hard Drive.

Now it stores my WM Roms and .cabs and also can be used to charge my phone via usb.

Wouldn't Sell it for the world!! Oh and comes with graphics drivers!! LOL

diigibio:)