Coreplayer 1.2.1 With Youtube Integration is OUT !!!

[private69]

Hello,

The new core player 1.2.1 with youtube integration is OUT !!!

Go to Mobihand and enjoy.

Private69.

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[payluder]

Great news thanks

[surur]

As core player does not have a trial, and is pretty expensive, could you do some screen shots of this feature?

Surur

[payluder]

just check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRNkuEfx7j4

[surur]

Cool. Thanks. Pretty nice. Looks like I will be shelling out, after refusing to pay for software without a trial for more than a year now.

Anyway, any way to get core player to play .flv files saved from YouTube. I know it does not support it natively, but I wonder if there is a hack or not.

Surur

[undac]

Youtube integration works like a charm but trying to use H.264 for streaming (highest quality) makes me lose ~75% of the frames.

I dunno I guess I didn't expect it to be perfect but it's totally unwatchable. The medium settings works fine but looks worse than the flash video bundle with tcpm. (The actual interface is retty nice though a bit unresponsive and it doesn't always bring up the video when clicking a video, thus making you have to change "view" to see the actual video. pretty annoying.)

[juiceppc]

That youtube integration looks kinda slick.

[Gibbs]

I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.

I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.

[con_ritmo]

I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.

I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.

eeks, h.264 youtube LOOKS great, but as undac pointed out...it's unwatchable... dropped-frame city... :(

medium setting RUNS great but looks bad...

so still flash video player and tcpmp for quality youtube...
if you just wanted to watch a video asap and didn't mind the quality, well medium setting core player would work ...

[RemE]

I tried the new version and really like the YT interface. I played several videos via WiFi and 3G and saw good results, video's only dropped about 5 frames in 2,500 pretty consistant with both radios with h.264's and zero frames with MPEG4s.

To select videos, I pressed the "i" icon on the right of each video, then in the larger info screen, pressed the play icon. Worked every time and seemed pretty responsive as well.

Edit, Oops, that was with the stock settings (Medium), when I changed the network setting for YT to high quality, the Kaiser chokes as reported. It played 101 frames and dropped 1515! Is this strictly a Kaiser/Tilt missing video driver issue??? and other PDA's function with this setting??

[Bratag]

Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.

Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.

[thesoulpoet]

any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.

[intothevoid]

any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.
I am sure they will have it soon enough. No warez posting is allowed here. Mobihand.com of course has it already and I have to say it really is working nice. Love the youtube interface and streaming is really flawless with hsdpa.

[galt]

High quality (H264) YouTube playback over wifi on my HTC Advantage is virtually flawless in CP 1.2.1 - I have it set to use the ATI Imageon video decoder w/acceleration selected. Supposedly the ATI chip doesn't have the capability to do hardware acceleration of H264 but in CP 1.2 and 1.2.1 I get incredibly smooth playback of H264 video (not at 640x480 unfortunately).

[chezzorilla]

YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?

[Bratag]

YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?

I would just suggest you make sure under video settings you have the qtv option selected.

[pjwilkin]

YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?

The "default" setting for Youtube video's is the crappy 3gp mode
to get H.264 goto
menu -> tools -> preferences -> Network
and amend the "YouTube Format" to "h264 (High Quality)"

Also make sure
menu -> tools -> preferences -> video
has "video Output" set to "QTV Display" (I'd recommend setting it to GDI first, exit, restart, set to QTv, exist and then restart)

QTv mode has some quirks (it wont display some of my album art) but for video it's way better than GDI

[con_ritmo]

Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.

Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.

bratag, can you post links to some youtube vids and your live benchmark on them over wifi at h.264?

[Digitaltigre]

I've only tested it a little and so far it seems great to me. Having Youtube integrated kicks ass. Here is a sample I tested:

with three bars on HSDPA and Youtube set to high quality...
Wolverine trailer
320X240 25 fps

1405 frames played
165 frames dropped
actual framerate 22.373

Im sure that larger pixel dimension files will drop more frames. But so far I am happy. This CoreCodec team is the heat. First the QTV overlay and now youtube. Props:cool:

[Bratag]

It very much depends on the size of the youtube video. Anything over about 480x runs choppy. You have to go down to medium for that. But anything encoded at a lower size than that is fine

[chezzorilla]

Doesn''t seem to work for mee.. not even with WiFi on. QTv renders a blank (black) image, but I do hear sound.
Putting the netowork setting to high quality results in endless buffering and massive frame loss.

[pjwilkin]

Doesn''t seem to work for mee.. not even with WiFi on. QTv renders a blank (black) image, but I do hear sound.
Putting the netowork setting to high quality results in endless buffering and massive frame loss.

Change to GDI .. exit, then go back in and set QTv mode

see if that works

It's a work around mentioned in other forums iirc

[o0adam0o]

How can you download a demo....i just see option to buy.

[Chainfire]

I havent upgraded to 1.2.1 yet (still happily running 1.1.3) as I don't actually watch youtube and 1.1.3 is working fine, but...

I've noticed the QTV settings definitely works best, but make sure it's set to high quality. For some reason (really, wth?) it works much slower on medium / low quality, at least for me.

Furthermore with some of my own benchmarking with CorePlayer, it seems resolution (scaling) is the biggest source of lag. High bitrate low resolution plays, generally speaking, much better than low bitrate high resolution.

Might clear up some issues, might not. Thought it might be useful info.

[Gibbs]

How can you download a demo....i just see option to buy.

There is no demo; you have to buy it if you want it.

[undac]

I havent upgraded to 1.2.1 yet (still happily running 1.1.3) as I don't actually watch youtube and 1.1.3 is working fine, but...

I've noticed the QTV settings definitely works best, but make sure it's set to high quality. For some reason (really, wth?) it works much slower on medium / low quality, at least for me.

Furthermore with some of my own benchmarking with CorePlayer, it seems resolution (scaling) is the biggest source of lag. High bitrate low resolution plays, generally speaking, much better than low bitrate high resolution.

Might clear up some issues, might not. Thought it might be useful info.

Hey Chainfire, long time since I saw you post. :)

Actually I've found coreplayer 1.2.x to be even better than 1.1.3 in general playback (performance wise that is).
Also it seems to fix some of the camera issues.

[beta_boy]

Thanx all for the great feedback and we are glad you like the YouTube integration.... The biggest thing you are all finding out is that you get better video playback quality in CorePlayer Mobile and Pro then you can even get on YouTube.com !!! ( -Web Browser and -Flash ) We are very proud of that as well as the YT quality control as it was not easy, and took over a month of devel work to get it right. The YT interface is not perfect yet... but we are close to where we want to be and a few more releases will fix all that.

On speed.... v1.2.1 features almost 2x as much code vs. v1.1.3 (with very little size increase) and has many more code optimizations from the user interface to the our new WMMX opts for codecs but even more so with our CoreAVC H.264 decoder. 1.2.x will also feature many more codec optimizations for AAC and an even faster ASP/DivX/XviD decoder (faster then DivX or XviD) as well as the addition of our new AC3 audio decoder in CorePlayer Pro for OS X and Windows.

[private69]

Hello,

BETA_BOY can you respond me in this forum or in you corecodec forum please ???

Re: CorePlayer Mobile and Pro v1.2.1 Status (http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=756.msg4817#msg4817)
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2008, 11:42:13 PM »
Quote from: privategun69 on March 09, 2008, 10:20:35 PM (http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=756.msg4766#msg4766)
I select in menu of coreplayer : association rtsp and with IE i write Http://m.youtube.com (http://m.youtube.com/), the youtube site web was launch i select a video and Coreplayer was open but no video.

If i open coreplayer and i used interface youtube is good .


Same Problem on my PocketLoox N560 - when I select play in Pocket-IE (http://m.youtube.com (http://m.youtube.com/)) Coreplayer opens ... loads ... no video ...
« Last Edit: March 10, 2008, 11:45:05 PM by Henry » http://corecodec-com.coreforge.org/forums/Themes/CoreCodec/images/ip.gif Logged

Thanks

[beta_boy]

Already posted over at CC.com

[jgermuga]

Sorry for the OT but I was wondering about your desktop h.264 decoder. I was looking to play H.264 files in Media Center, but the only version I could find from Core Codec was very old. Do you still support this product?

[beta_boy]

Sorry for the OT but I was wondering about your desktop h.264 decoder. I was looking to play H.264 files in Media Center, but the only version I could find from Core Codec was very old. Do you still support this product?

Sure... CoreAVC is the leading H.264 Codec available today ( currently at v1.6.5 ) @ http://www.CoreAVC.com . Here is the latest changelog: http://www.coreavc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1

[sphinx88]

The index for Youtube loads correctly, but when I select on a video I get ile not Found! RTSP://bfug.rtsp-youtube.l.google.com/(You get the Point)

Am I doing something wrong?

[jmacdonald801]

Anyone know what's the deal with Handango? It still has the old version. I bought the 1.2 preview version.... so... where's the update?

-James

[pjwilkin]

Anyone know what's the deal with Handango? It still has the old version. I bought the 1.2 preview version.... so... where's the update?

-James

I used mobihand (for this and a few other bits of software)), because they notify on updates.

Perhaps Betaboy can give Handago a push...

[Chainfire]

beta_boy,

Since you seem to be reading this anyway, I have a feature request. I couldn't find this anywhere - but it has to be said CorePlayer has an insane amount of options ;)

What would be really great is having a preset backlight level for video playback (only). I always have my backlight on the lowest setting for normal surfing, reading mail, etc, but this is too dark to watch video well. It's 'inconvenient' having to switch the level back and forth manually all the time.

Please add this to a 'to-do', 'to-consider' or whatever list, or tell me where I overlooked this setting ;)

[beta_boy]

Handango has not published the update yet for v1.2.1 and I am trying to working with them to fix their release policy to match ours (wish me luck... i'll need it).

[beta_boy]

beta_boy,
Please add this to a 'to-do', 'to-consider' or whatever list, or tell me where I overlooked this setting ;)

mmmm note sure if its possible... what OS/Device?

[joshuah82]

Handango has not published the update yet for v1.2.1 and I am trying to working with them to fix their release policy to match ours (wish me luck... i'll need it).

Is there a way for people with valid keys to acquire the updated version from CoreCodec if they purchased it on Handango? I'm in the same boat.

[Chainfire]

mmmm note sure if its possible... what OS/Device?

Oh heh sorry. Windows Mobile 6 / TyTN II.

Googling for "BackLightChangeEvent" will give you loads of info how to do it on most WM devices... don't know which devices it does or doesn't work on, though.

[jmacdonald801]

Is there a way for people with valid keys to acquire the updated version from CoreCodec if they purchased it on Handango? I'm in the same boat.

Second, Third and Fourth that. Never going to purchase from Handango again.

Perhaps CoreCodec should warn us of which vendors provide timely updates for their products. Right on the front page of their web site! Ok it's probably not such a hot idea, but released should mean... released.

-James

[beta_boy]

Second, Third and Fourth that. Never going to purchase from Handango again.

Perhaps CoreCodec should warn us of which vendors provide timely updates for their products. Right on the front page of their web site! Ok it's probably not such a hot idea, but released should mean... released.

-James

We are working with Handango as we speak to try and align our efforts.... this is why we have not not released any of our other platforms with them like Symbian and why we are #1 in sales on our other major reseller/partner Mobihand.com for Palm, PocketPC, Smartphone and Symbian S60 v3.

/me hugs the guys at Mobihand

[RemE]

beta_boy,

Since you seem to be reading this anyway, I have a feature request. I couldn't find this anywhere - but it has to be said CorePlayer has an insane amount of options ;)

What would be really great is having a preset backlight level for video playback (only). I always have my backlight on the lowest setting for normal surfing, reading mail, etc, but this is too dark to watch video well. It's 'inconvenient' having to switch the level back and forth manually all the time.

Please add this to a 'to-do', 'to-consider' or whatever list, or tell me where I overlooked this setting ;)


This is good idea and would be very usefull. I would use it the opposite way actually as I use PDXE to encode my videos at 320x240 and bump the brightness and contrast at the same time which really helps the small screen experience as most look dark to me too. So I use 30-40% bright level normally and I lower it to minumum for max runtime when watching videos.

This feature would save steps in all cases, hope it can be done!

[gogol]

Nice, but I cant play most of them ... got error rtsp://... File not found!

[jdbuckeye2009]

I see that some people are getting better results after enabling ATI Imageon hardware acceleration. Where is this option? Is it just the QTV option, or is there something I'm missing? My playback is dropping tons of frames on about half the youtube videos I've watched, and I'm hoping there is a setting I need to change to fix it.

[beta_boy]

Nice, but I cant play most of them ... got error rtsp://... File not found!

This means you maybe be limited by either your connection (device connection priority, host proxy) or you can try selecting another quality setting in 'Tools > Preferences > Network > YouTube Format'

Additionally you may receive these type of errors if the video is either set to private and or not available at that particular quality setting (AVC for example as not all videos on YT are available in AVC yet).

[beta_boy]

I see that some people are getting better results after enabling ATI Imageon hardware acceleration. Where is this option? Is it just the QTV option, or is there something I'm missing? My playback is dropping tons of frames on about half the youtube videos I've watched, and I'm hoping there is a setting I need to change to fix it.


What? QTv is only specific for Tilt/Kaiser users... Same for ATI mobile devices that have it... by default we detect the chipset and set it automatically for you but the player allows you to choose another output method if you wish.

Also read my last post about quality selections and set yours to 'low' to see if it helps.

[jdbuckeye2009]

High quality (H264) YouTube playback over wifi on my HTC Advantage is virtually flawless in CP 1.2.1 - I have it set to use the ATI Imageon video decoder w/acceleration selected. Supposedly the ATI chip doesn't have the capability to do hardware acceleration of H264 but in CP 1.2 and 1.2.1 I get incredibly smooth playback of H264 video (not at 640x480 unfortunately).

this is what I"m talking about. Is he talking about just setting the output to QTV or is there a separate setting that I'm not aware of, because I have mine set to QTV with h.264 youtube settings and anything larger than 320x240 is pretty much unplayable.

Also, what is the deal with the medium quality setting for youtube? I know it isn't h.264, but I can barely make out anything at all! Shouldn't it at least be comparable to the quality I get with TCPMP and flashplayer?

[gogol]

Understandable ... so, I set to H.264 (high), QTV and medium video quality.

I am able to play the video ...

But the performance is really bad.

I changed to video quality = low, but still bad ...

Oh, and I use my local wi-fi ... which I think it should be fast enough.

Is there any way to increase the buffering? I dont mind waiting to fill the buffer first, rather than poor video play.

I saw there is buffering setting, but I am not sure if it is used for YouTube, right?

This means you maybe be limited by either your connection (device connection priority, host proxy) or you can try selecting another quality setting in 'Tools > Preferences > Network > YouTube Format'

Additionally you may receive these type of errors if the video is either set to private and or not available at that particular quality setting (AVC for example as not all videos on YT are available in AVC yet).

[Restorer]

Nice, but I cant play most of them ... got error rtsp://... File not found!

Yeah I got this on the default YouTube Format setting (RTSP medium) but works fine on H264 and RTSP low. Did you try changing these?

[jmacdonald801]

this is what I"m talking about. Is he talking about just setting the output to QTV or is there a separate setting that I'm not aware of, because I have mine set to QTV with h.264 youtube settings and anything larger than 320x240 is pretty much unplayable.

Also, what is the deal with the medium quality setting for youtube? I know it isn't h.264, but I can barely make out anything at all! Shouldn't it at least be comparable to the quality I get with TCPMP and flashplayer?

This is more or less accurate for me too.

The data rate is large for these 480x320 H.264 clips. An example was a family guy clip I found, 623 kbit/s.

I get about 66% speed on the larger resolution clips when I benchmark. I have not tried over wi-fi yet. I would imagine such a high data rate is having an adverse effect on the performance over 3G which maybe can or can not deliver enough bandwidth at times.

-James

[beta_boy]

This is more or less accurate for me too.

The data rate is large for these 480x320 H.264 clips. An example was a family guy clip I found, 623 kbit/s.

I get about 66% speed on the larger resolution clips when I benchmark. I have not tried over wi-fi yet. I would imagine such a high data rate is having an adverse effect on the performance over 3G which maybe can or can not deliver enough bandwidth at times.

-James

Sure... data rate vs. the capabilities of the network your on vs. the capabilities of your device.... remember pulling in H.264 video it being resized to match your devices AR. which eats into CPU cycles.

[jmacdonald801]

Sure... data rate vs. the capabilities of the network your on vs. the capabilities of your device.... remember pulling in H.264 video it being resized to match your devices AR. which eats into CPU cycles.

So here's the thing, I've found some h.264 clips that are 320x240.... is there no version of the higher resolution h.264 videos that is in h.264 at 320x240? I ask because you have like a low, medium, and high option, I figured maybe there's one more in between medium and high that is h.264 at 320x240.

That would certainly be the sweet spot...

-James

[ceevee369]

We are working with Handango as we speak to try and align our efforts.... this is why we have not not released any of our other platforms with them like Symbian and why we are #1 in sales on our other major reseller/partner Mobihand.com for Palm, PocketPC, Smartphone and Symbian S60 v3.

/me hugs the guys at Mobihand

I posted my Handango "adventures" on Corecodec indeed to warn other potential purchasers. Took me 20 mails and almost as many days to get my upgrade to V1.2 credited.

Handango HAS an upgrade page, though for some cinister reason they do not align very well with Corecodec indeed.

[beta_boy]

I have received an all 'OK' internally for us to shutdown our Handango sales.... when its all said and done in the next couple of days I will post more on it. But don't worry Handango users... we will be bringing you over to a great reseller with Mobihand that are more then welcome to help you with any of your needs.

A true reseller partnership (as it should be).

[cuboosh]

i cant get 1.2.1 to ingage my internet (medianet) what am i doing wrong

[jmacdonald801]

I posted my Handango "adventures" on Corecodec indeed to warn other potential purchasers. Took me 20 mails and almost as many days to get my upgrade to V1.2 credited.

Handango HAS an upgrade page, though for some cinister reason they do not align very well with Corecodec indeed.

Hey, can I have some specifics on how you got your refund? I thought I would just challenge the charge on my card, since any time you challenge a charge, valid or not, it takes a hit against that company.

It seems that finding some page on Handango for which to contact them is impossible to find. How convenient. Does anyone have a direct link or know of an email address to use for these clever individuals?

EDIT: Betaboy, I re-purchased CorePlayer from mobihand. I also put in a help desk incident with Handango. They told me they had to contact CoreCodec to approve the refund. If you have a support email address of some kind, I can provide my handango reference number, and my mobihand order number if this is in some way helpful to get this done.

I apologize, I just don't see why Handango was taking so long, and I really loved the software and I was too impatient to wait.


-James

[futbolkeeper]

I have received an all 'OK' internally for us to shutdown our Handango sales.... when its all said and done in the next couple of days I will post more on it. But don't worry Handango users... we will be bringing you over to a great reseller with Mobihand that are more then welcome to help you with any of your needs.

A true reseller partnership (as it should be).

So beta_boy does this mean we will be contacted by Mobihand and or CoreCodec by email? Do we need to register with you guys to let you know that we purchased from Helldango? Thanks

[beta_boy]

I will post here when things settle down here in a few hours.... Handango is trying to work with us... and while we are upset because our expectations were higher then they could deliver I personally don't want to lose them, I just want them to be responsive to our customers needs and to match our end goals (update availability). Thats what a partnership is for correct?

I also want to thank some ppl here at XDA and the CC forums for putting the pressure on them to fix their processes and not about try to generate revenue in regards to making ppl pay for updates they are entitled to.

[futbolkeeper]

I will post here when things settle down here in a few hours.... Handango is trying to work with us... and while we are upset because our expectations were higher then they could deliver I personally don't want to lose them, I just want them to be responsive to our customers needs and to match our end goals (update availability). Thats what a partnership is for correct?

I also want to thank some ppl here at XDA and the CC forums for putting the pressure on them to fix their processes and not about try to generate revenue in regards to making ppl pay for updates they are entitled to.

The pressure on them will continue on my end that is for sure! :D I love CorePlayer keep up the great work.

[jmacdonald801]

It's simple capitalism.

People, vote with your wallets. Go to mobihand and pick up the update. Dispute your charge for 1.2 at handango with your card company. Any dispute, however valid, negatively impacts a Visa customers rating, and hence raises their rates to do business. This system is in place by Visa to be sure there is some kind of measure (however small) that people using charge cards get fair treatment.

Handango is in business to amek money and nothing more. I'm sure you are all very aware of this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/02/16/handango-revises-cda-says-screw-you-to-developers/

Is this fair to CoreCodec, or the people that wish to buy their products?

They are suppose to provide updates, they are not, irregardless of the reason, it's a perfectly valid dispute. If more consumers took a little more time to demand better service from those that would take advantage of your apathy, this situation would not be happening.

-James

[ceevee369]

Hey, can I have some specifics on how you got your refund? I thought I would just challenge the charge on my card, since any time you challenge a charge, valid or not, it takes a hit against that company.

It seems that finding some page on Handango for which to contact them is impossible to find. How convenient. Does anyone have a direct link or know of an email address to use for these clever individuals?

EDIT: Betaboy, I re-purchased CorePlayer from mobihand. I also put in a help desk incident with Handango. They told me they had to contact CoreCodec to approve the refund. If you have a support email address of some kind, I can provide my handango reference number, and my mobihand order number if this is in some way helpful to get this done.

I apologize, I just don't see why Handango was taking so long, and I really loved the software and I was too impatient to wait.


-James

I advise you to challenge. You do NOT want to go 20-25 mails before Handango gives up after threathening them. You would simply fall in the ping-pong process of you submitting - they replying and forwarding THEIR issue towars the developper CoreCodec who is , in fact NOT the one who needs to solve the free upgrade link problem. Do not go there as I did. You will see the black hole of evil. Challenge the payment - (only if you DID bought the original v1.0 from Handango and DID paid for a V1.2 upgrade of course) good luck!

[sonicboom007]

how does the latest version of coreplayer play h.264 ripped dvd's compared to TCPMP 8? do they use the same codec?

[FloatingFatMan]

Wouldn't it be easier, with all the problems with Handango, for the CoreCodec people to just make a download link available to all customers? You could easily verify them by asking for their registration key to download it...

[Restorer]

how does the latest version of coreplayer play h.264 ripped dvd's compared to TCPMP 8? do they use the same codec?

Not sure about DVDs but I've tried converting files recorded in Vista Media Centre to h264 (320x240) using a neat little program called MCEBuddy but get no sound - it says the audio codec (706D) is not supported by the player. GSpot tells me the audio codec is FAAD AAC. Not sure what this means.

Divx conversion of these files works great.

[sonicboom007]

please check this link for some clips I have ripped..

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=218130#post218130

I have attached two zip files which contain two h.264 2-minute clips I ripped from #1 dvd burner from the movie Tears of the Sun. If someone could play them both for me in coreplayer I'd really appreciate it. I also think this will help people to figure out whether or not Corplayer is really better than TCPMP (Youtube issues aside)
also - there is no nudity, language, or violence in either of the clips for anyone who might be concerned....thanks for the help!

[Restorer]

please check this link for some clips I have ripped..

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=218130#post218130

I have attached two zip files which contain two h.264 2-minute clips I ripped from #1 dvd burner from the movie Tears of the Sun. If someone could play them both for me in coreplayer I'd really appreciate it. I also think this will help people to figure out whether or not Corplayer is really better than TCPMP (Youtube issues aside)
also - there is no nudity, language, or violence in either of the clips for anyone who might be concerned....thanks for the help!

Both of your clips play nicely in CorePlayer 1.2.1

[Brickmen]

just bought core player and i must admit that I am very impressed. I'm streaming Black Adder (good ish quality) across my wifi network at full speed (which used to lag on TCMP). and enjoying every minute of it, well worth £17.

The youtube function works well too, but i dont use YT much anyway. Thanks to the corecodec team!!

[beta_boy]

The youtube function works well too, but i dont use YT much anyway. Thanks to the corecodec team!!

Your welcome.... I wanted to address something.... the point we wanted to stress that by us adding the builtin YouTube support.... why use FLV at all if you don't need to? FLV is a bloated/slow container... that uses a bloated/slow Flash player to play back multimedia with. We recommend using great containers like MPEG-4 our Matroska container. Naturally we recongnize the ease of use of flash... that not our point... multimedia is!

Remember... in those FLV videos are other embedded audio and video formats... ASP, AVC, AAC, MP3, etc. they can be CPU intensive enough.... no need to add;
1 - A web-browser
2 - Flash player
3 - FLV container overhead

into the picture if its not needed... as the end results produce higher quality and why we are stressing that video in CorePlayer is even better then you can get on YouTube.com itself!!

In the end our users and community benefit... now onto Break.com, DailyMotion and releasing our API's for third parties to add their own sites into CorePlayer ;)

[jomo25]

Any chance Hulu.com videos will be supported soon?

[beta_boy]

No as they only have support for offloaded access via flash and its only for preview's not the entire show (from what I was told).

[jomo25]

No as they only have support for offloaded access via flash and its only for preview's not the entire show (from what I was told).

Ehh, too bad. That would be really nice...

[sonicboom007]

thanks for the info, i'll go ahead and buy it...

[gogol]

How to get more result?

For example, "Most discussed" ... I only got 1 page, is this correct?

No more?

[scilor]

I cant play YouTube Videos :( when i click a video the load thing appears and stays there

[diigibio]

Fantastic addition to a great piece of software everything works fine for me. Although if you check your network settings and it is set to H264 (high quality) change it to RTSP (medium) to play perfect as mine wouldn't play video till this was changed. (Spoof to WMV,ASF).

[rienzi]

I cant play YouTube Videos :( when i click a video the load thing appears and stays there

I am having the same problem. Just how do you play Youtube videos using Coreplayer?

[Kalwren]

I am having the same problem. Just how do you play Youtube videos using Coreplayer?

It works for me.

I'm able to go to youtube and click a video. CorePlayer launches, and it takes several seconds for it to start playing. I have a large buffer set up, however. I'd rather a video take longer to load and not be all choppy, rather than have it stop and re-buffer during playback.

Maybe check your buffer size, or give it more time to start.

[beta_boy]

How to get more result?

For example, "Most discussed" ... I only got 1 page, is this correct?

No more?

We are adding a 'more' in the next release.... as we are optimizing the YT DB atm.

[Jonathan1683]

Is there any way to make x264 run properly I would buy 5 copies if it worked flawlessly lol Maybe core player can overclock while it's being played? Also what settings do you guys use. Is there a way to just download the whole video before playing it? Sometimes I can't get the 3G connection at home while testing this. I also noticed I have to keep pressing the start button over while it's trying to buffer. Maybe you can add a buffer shadow to show how much has been downloaded. It could be there but I am really color blind and can't see one if it's there. Is there a way to save the data so it doesn't constantly have to stream? It would be great if it could download the x264 steam and just save it for later. Also adding a set to factory defaults would be nice since I don't know what they are. I tried uninstalling + reinstalling but that didnt help.

Thanks for listening

[joshuah82]

beta_boy, any updates on the Handango situation?

[Kalwren]

When Coreplayer is running, and I receive a text message...

I reply to the text and Coreplayer is eating my input and responding to it. Meaning, I'll type "m" in a text message, and Coreplayer will mute. M is assigned to mute in CorePlayer. I have other hotkeys as well, but I'm just using M to explain this.

So when replying to a text message (or using anything that uses keyboard input) and I type the word "remember", it shows up as "reeber" and CorePlayer will mute and then unmute.

I hope this is making sense, it's odd to describe it.

Anyone know what I can do to fix this? I don't want to have to remove all my hotkeys for CorePlayer. When it's in focus, I like to use the hotkeys to control the app. It's dang frustrating though when I'm trying to type a text message and it has look like "reMeMber" because "m" is assigned to a hotkey. :P

Thanks in advance to anyone with suggestions or a solution!

[kareem9nba]

I can play mp4 videos alright, however i hear now sound. I tried copying over the codec from TCPMP but that didn't work. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks

[ceevee369]

beta_boy, any updates on the Handango situation?

I am not intending to get myself in 20 in and out going mails with Handango.
having the 1.2 , I now want to upgrade to V1.2.1.

Betaboy, what's the call mate? Whom to talk to ?
Complaint on CoreCodec Support to get the new serial when turning in the old?

Thanks mate
ceevee369

[joshuah82]

I am not intending to get myself in 20 in and out going mails with Handango.
having the 1.2 , I now want to upgrade to V1.2.1.

Betaboy, what's the call mate? Whom to talk to ?
Complaint on CoreCodec Support to get the new serial when turning in the old?

Thanks mate
ceevee369

According to the CoreCodec Knoledgebase you're entitled to a free upgrade of any like version (1.x). They mention the issues with Handango and updates and say to submit a support ticket referencing your Handango order number and they will provide you with the update.

I did this yesterday and the response I got from support was that I would need to purchase it again from another vendor to get 1.2.1. I replied referencing the KB document and asking if it was correct that if they could verify my order number they could send me the update. I haven't received a response yet.

So I guess we'll see where it goes from there. It's a real bummer as I purchased it finally due to the YouTube support which is nowhere to be found in 1.2.

[jmacdonald801]

As far as Handiblow is concerned. I opened an incident or whatever they call it. They emailed me some generic form saying to contact them if the developer had not resolved the issue. Which of course is complete and udder crap since the developer was not at fault.

I simply replied that since they had failed to provide the update, I was going to dispute my original charge for 1.2 with my card company.

One hour later, email came back saying my credit card would be refunded.

Probably fair enough to let them know you plan to call your card company before you do. I may not like what happened with them, but they resolved it quickly.

-James

[ceevee369]

According to the CoreCodec Knoledgebase you're entitled to a free upgrade of any like version (1.x). They mention the issues with Handango and updates and say to submit a support ticket referencing your Handango order number and they will provide you with the update.

I did this yesterday and the response I got from support was that I would need to purchase it again from another vendor to get 1.2.1. I replied referencing the KB document and asking if it was correct that if they could verify my order number they could send me the update. I haven't received a response yet.

So I guess we'll see where it goes from there. It's a real bummer as I purchased it finally due to the YouTube support which is nowhere to be found in 1.2.

Accoring to Handango, this is their procedure for any free upgrade: (just got this reply asking for a link upgrading from 1.2 to 1.2.1, after a loooong debate refunding my v1.0 to v1.2 paid upgrade.

Reply Handango support:
Dear xxx,

I am sorry to see but the I have refunded the recent order. If you need the upgrade version you will have to repurchase the software. After you download the file you need I can refund the purchase again. I am sorry about this. The download link that I create from your account will only give you the previous version.

Sincerely,
John xxxx
Handango, Inc.

Obviously, this is a no-brainer. I guess they can take a % of transaction amount before a refund.

On the othert hand, CoreCodec should be straight and clear. keeping Handango at hand though resulting in trouble afterwards is not ideal.

This said, i am waiting for a free upgrade link from corecodec (no reply yet) and will empty my account points on handago. I had it.

[nietzsche]

I installed this version, and when loading a video from youtube (going to youtube via the coreplayer interface) it starts loading the video (after a while I can even see the screen getting "dark" but it just looks like it's loading and loading but nothing happens.
Anybody here know what could be causing this?

[ceevee369]

So, I blew the bridge with Handango thanking them for their outstanding service. Not any $ goes to their direction anymore.

I hoped to get at least support from CoreCodec's team, but after 48 hours, still no reply on my simple request providing a link to 1.2.1...

Honestly, it is awesome CoreCodec puts a lot of efforts in software improvement, but it would be even greater if they could reply at least to their customers left in the cold by one of their distributors..

Hope BetaBoy will spot this :o

[r_benamin]

@ all heros

Coreplayer vers. 1.2.1. does not open *.flv files wich are saved on my SDcard!

i want to open and playback *.flv files (wich i saved on my sdcard)

i used to do this with tcpmp (0.81) but in this new rom tcpmp does not work!

thx for helping!

[hidavi]

I tried one video with the following stats:

format: divx
container: divx
res: 592 x 256
bitrate: 826kbps
framerate: 24fps

and it ran great.

The only problem is that it takes forever to load Youtube vids. To buffer them, its no prob, but to start them takes a long time. Any ideas on how to fix that? I have it set to h.264 for Youtube and I don't want to downgrade.

The first time I tried Youtube on it, it all went fast n smooth but not anymore...

[ceevee369]

So, I blew the bridge with Handango thanking them for their outstanding service. Not any $ goes to their direction anymore.

I hoped to get at least support from CoreCodec's team, but after 48 hours, still no reply on my simple request providing a link to 1.2.1...

Honestly, it is awesome CoreCodec puts a lot of efforts in software improvement, but it would be even greater if they could reply at least to their customers left in the cold by one of their distributors..

Hope BetaBoy will spot this :o

EDIT:
Betaboy (the CoreCodec founder , the maker of Coreplyer) did not found the above message.
Though he replied on my insulting words on CoreCodec itself where I told him that even HIS Support underperformed. Not any reply from his staff after 4 days ????

As it seems now, neither Handango nor CoreCodec are prepared to offer a solution for a free entitled upgrade from V1.2 to 1.2.1.
Following Betaboy "due to legal reasons- restrictions" related to their collaboration with Handango. (Understandable if the below would nbot be the response from Handango..:

Handango meanwhile plays the card of "it's not us, it's the vendor who should support you"
Honestly, in 14 years of being in the High-tech business , I never experienced such an unprofessional approach.

I do have nothing to say / blame on the soft itself ,as that one is greatly made by porbably an outstanding developer team @Corecodec, but the way support(at least a CLEAR response) is given is way below the quality of the product itself.

If customers are left behind due to disputes between a vendor and a supplier, there should be at least be transparency and an open communication.

Therefore, ALL HANDANGO-COREPLAYER Purchasers (v1.0, V1.2) whom are unable to get their free untitled upgrade for free, send me a PM. We might see together how to approach this.

Meanwhile, I hope that Handango and Corecodec can get their acts together providing a long term solution to all their MUTUAL customers.
Understanding that this will not be very well accepted by Betaboy, I deemed it neccesary to warn purchasers on this underperforming support model. Who ever needs to be blamed.

[Nghiem]

EDIT:
Though he replied on my insulting words on CoreCodec itself where I told him that even HIS Support underperformed. Not any reply from his staff after 4 days ????

As it seems now, neither Handango nor CoreCodec are prepared to offer a solution for a free entitled upgrade from V1.2 to 1.2.1.
I do have nothing to say / blame on the soft itself ,as that one is greatly made by porbably an outstanding developer team @Corecodec, but the way support(at least a CLEAR response) is given is way below the quality of the product itself.

If customers are left behind due to disputes between a vendor and a supplier, there should be at least be transparency and an open communication.

Meanwhile, I hope that Handango and Corecodec can get their acts together providing a long term solution to all their MUTUAL customers.
Understanding that this will not be very well accepted by Betaboy, I deemed it neccesary to warn purchasers on this underperforming support model. Who ever needs to be blamed.

If none of them are willing to solve your upgrade 1.2.1 issue, then google it.

[Jetdriver330]

After opening a ticket with coreplayer, this was their response:

"Hello,

Thank you for writing to the CoreCodec Support Group.
Handango does have the 1.2.1 update available.



Regards,

Nicole Marlin
CoreCodec OEM Sales and Customer Support Group
http://www.corecodec.com"

So, went to handango.co.uk, redownloaded coreplayer and guess what, it is still the 1.2.0 version. (You only find out what version it is after you check it's properties).

Why are these people such MUPPETS!!

It cannot be difficult to supply the cab via a secure email/webpage link... can it?!!!:mad:

[ceevee369]

After opening a ticket with coreplayer, this was their response:

"Hello,

Thank you for writing to the CoreCodec Support Group.
Handango does have the 1.2.1 update available.



Regards,

Nicole Marlin
CoreCodec OEM Sales and Customer Support Group
http://www.corecodec.com"

So, went to handango.co.uk, redownloaded coreplayer and guess what, it is still the 1.2.0 version. (You only find out what version it is after you check it's properties).

Why are these people such MUPPETS!!

It cannot be difficult to supply the cab via a secure email/webpage link... can it?!!!:mad:

Got the same message this morning. Forwarded it to Handango and awaiting response.

However, this will not solve any free upgrade releases in the future.

Handango has this "funny" thing called "download protection".
If you PURCHASE this on top of the soft, you are enable to re-download your original software + 30 days (as such your purchase will remain in your history)
It does not say you are then entitled to downlaod the latest free upgrade.
As i see it, it is only an excuse to make extra money on top of the consulted purchase price.

An yes, Handango offers the 1.0 version Feb release at 24.95US, not the 1.2 realease at 29.95 USD as Mobihand does.

I keep watching this :(

[ceevee369]

If none of them are willing to solve your upgrade 1.2.1 issue, then google it.


I am not willing to go to the dark side (if that would be the suggestion). Either the vendor or the supplier need to come up with a straight solution for now and the long term future.

[Nghiem]

Theoritically speaking, it should be "need to come up with a straight solution"; however, many things on this earth planet don't come straight forward, either. I don't mean you have to go to the black area, because you paid for this application (so did I, but not from handango, thank God!) How is a grey area? I think they should deserve it if they are poor in customers services.

[ceevee369]

Theoritically speaking, it should be "need to come up with a straight solution"; however, many things on this earth planet don't come straight forward, either. I don't mean you have to go to the black area, because you paid for this application (so did I, but not from handango, thank God!) How is a grey area? I think they should deserve it if they are poor in customers services.

After hearing too many nonsense from both parties, I decided to redeem my points from Handango and close my account. Purchased for over 200 USD there, but not one $cent more.

As far as Corecodec's support concerns, they could have done it differently - better. Even untill today both parties reply with different messages but no solution (how many days after their 1.2.1 release?)

Being a HW manufacturer myself, I understand that direct support to customers is vital (by offering firmware for our devices directly from our website instead of asking my distributors to deal with this)

This said, I close this personal rant. Guess things are clear enough for future candidate purchasers.

[tvos]

coreplayer when performing searches only displays 5 videos.. how do i advance to display the next vids in the search?

also, how do i view a web site in opera mini or ie that is youtube and stream it to coreplayer?

tvos

[hidavi]

Mine shows 13 vids. BetaBoy said that in the next release, they will have a "More Results" button.

As for the other thing, that only works with Youtube Mobile... or at least its that way for me.

[tvos]

so in other words, youtube is useless if you can only search for 13 videos then can not advance. i can't understand how coreplayer could charge for this product when it truely does not work with youtube intergration.

tvos

[hidavi]

Yeah, I actually paid for this piece of shit software. I feel really ripped off.

[tvos]

i would imagine they would have to offer a free upgrade?

what is the difference between coreplayer and tcmp?

tvos

[civic98]

I actually bought it today, after contemplating for many days, not knowing that it had been updated to 1.2.2 (I did get 1.2.2 btw). First try it performs much much much better that TCPMP and the previous Coreplayer. Benchmark is at least 3 times faster than them.

[LivinOne]

I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.

I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.

What Core version, settings, and videos are you playing to compare quality to TCPMP & WMP?

[Heijdemann]

When I play a movie using benchmark (version 1.2.2.) it is almost perfect but the minute I change to normal play it have hickups and stottering....? Why..?

Solution play in 85% speed is for me the best and almost perfect ;)

[ekw]

SWEEEEET looks like coreplayer may implement flash!!
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=1001.0

or betaboy is just screwin with us :(

[beta_boy]

I'll post more info later but its NOT Flash.... we are however releasing support for the FLV (Flash Container) within all CorePlayer Platform Products as of today 5/8/2008.

[decimusmaximus7]

If I have a link to a youtube video sent to me in an email on the phone, is there a way to open the video in coreplayer if all I have is the link?