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BrianGM
16-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:

1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?
2. When my Cruise has not been in use for some time, five minutes to half an hour and I want to use the phone I switch it on and find myself in a programme. It could be contacts or a third party programme that I have installed. To use the phone I have to exit the open programmes first. Normal?
3. I sometimes go into the Comm Manager and find that the Data Connection is on (for no reason). I'm getting a bit paranoid imagining that my phone bill is going to be high because of these situations. Normal?

Or is it just me?

Thanks

Brian

Spamkit
16-03-2008, 11:30 PM
I have never noticed such the behavior, haven't read that anyone there in xda-dev board has noticed things like this. If you still have an original rom I would recommend you to do hard reset and to try to use your device without to install anything for some days to check how it will behave.

dortyboy
17-03-2008, 04:14 AM
i would really recommend a hard reset. if u call them thats exactly what they gonna tell u

Spamkit
17-03-2008, 05:47 AM
If this would be a pc I would think about some sort of trojan has got control over it.

TheOnly1
17-03-2008, 06:23 AM
Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile. HTC Weather has a timeout of 2 Hours. Maybe O2 did something to the plugin to make it download more often and generate bills :p

Plokhish123
17-03-2008, 08:27 AM
[QUOTE=BrianGM;2030202]Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:

1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?


Brian, what you need just to click on your prefferable city on Weather Tab, then go to Menu-Weather Options-remove tick on "Download weather data automatically"

bigix1
17-03-2008, 08:50 AM
Try to disable "Download weather data automatically". It can be the cause of data connection activate so you can solve 2 problems at same time.
To do it, tap on your city in HTCHome; in next windows you should have a menu (Bottom right). In Menu Option and remove (by tapping it) flag near the voice Download Data Automatically.
So, you can decide when download data manually tapping the apposite function in HTCHome -weather main page.

sahoopes
17-03-2008, 02:35 PM
Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile.

Is this a trojan:confused:
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/02/26/windows-mobile-trojan-sends-unauthorized-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/

schaggo
17-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Weather tab ... it automatically wants download ... six times in one minute and it will start to download
As described, turn off auto-update. If turned on and you went over 2h with the last update, the Cruise tries to update every time you switch to the tab, unless you let it update. Then it'll try next in 2h.

I switch it on and find myself in a programme
Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.

Comm Manager ... Data Connection is on (for no reason)
This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.

Is this a trojan:confused:
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/02/26/windows-mobile-trojan-sends-unauthorized-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/
This reads like it is a trojan. But it's all bull: there is no silent or unattended installation possible on Windows Mobile. You'll always see the progressbar, and most probably you'd have to select where to install it to. What it does is turn the "Are you really...?"-screen off. So if you catch/caught it: it's your own fault...

BrianGM
18-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.


This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.
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Schaggo and all of you- Thanks for your amazing input. I have returned from being out there and I'll update what I've done.
1. Switched off the auto weather.
2. Set up the Mo Da Co programme and toggled off all possible access via my Service Provider. (I'll have to toggle off the service after I've used it, right?)
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian

mradaml
18-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Go into your mail and choose tools/options, choose the account in question and select send/recieve schedule. There you can set to manual.

maka_szn
18-10-2008, 07:03 PM
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian

Push-eMail means "as item arrives" setting in ActiveSync/Menu/Schedule. You can also specify Every .... minutes or Manually. Last one is connecting only when you start Send/Receive in Pocket Outlook.

S2U2 is great. Try it. It has Slide to Unlock feature and allows to answer calls same way. It's fully configurable to your needs and easy to uninstall if you don't like it. Had same problems and S2U2 helped.

Cheers