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axonn
17-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Hi to everybody. This is my first message here. I have been around for a little while, as I have bought a Kaiser 2 weeks ago and I found this place extremely helpful. I bought it with a German OS on it and I reflashed using Hard SPL and Dutty's Windows distribution. Thank you all for your posts and information, I searched and always found what I needed. Now... I got a few questions:
1. I ordered myself a Mugen 3000 amps battery and I wonder if there is any software to correctly report battery consumption, as I read that many had problems with this.
2. When you load the battery... how do you know when it's really loaded since there are those battery usage reporting problems.
3. Where can I set my device to remain operational until the battery is dead (stop auto-shut down at 2% or stuff like that). I read that some extended life batteries are reported as dead by Windows and after reboot they are back to 34%. So a workaround to point 1 is to stop the device from auto shutting down and remaining operational until there is no energy left.
Thank you in advance ::- ).
gqstatus0685
17-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
mcmexican
17-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
I went to bed with the phone fully charged and woke up with it at 93% with Direct Push enabled. There is absolutley something you can do about your battery draining like that.
grizzley
17-03-2008, 04:20 PM
I went to bed with the phone fully charged and woke up with it at 93% with Direct Push enabled. There is absolutley something you can do about your battery draining like that.
Unless he slept for 4 days!!!!
I agree, that is absolutely absurd. 100% ---> DEAD overnight????
I'd suggest doing a soft reset before you go to bed so that are processes are killed and not running in the background and then see how the battery works overnight.
axonn
17-03-2008, 04:43 PM
Errrrrrr... can anybody ANSWER my questions? ::- D.
gqstatus0685
17-03-2008, 11:32 PM
I always close out of running programs after I'm done with it. I had my battery fully charged and unhooked it so that it wouldnt over do the battery. Went to sleep and when I woke up my phone was on sleep "obviously" so I hit the power button and it doesn't wake up. So I have to do a hard reset on my phone by pulling out the battery. When I powered back on my battery was like at 18 percent. Crazy.
Insaneboy
18-03-2008, 12:34 AM
Did you charge the battery for more than 10-12 hours the first three times you recharged?
gqstatus0685
18-03-2008, 01:28 AM
I wouldn't know I bought it from a friend, I'm pretty sure he let it die down completely before charging it.
ChInEsE ChIcKeN
18-03-2008, 03:31 AM
these are lit ion batts why would it matter if you charged it for that long the first time. for the first initial charge your sappose to charge it for a complete 14 hours anywas.
NotATreoFan
18-03-2008, 12:24 PM
1. I ordered myself a Mugen 3000 amps battery and I wonder if there is any software to correctly report battery consumption, as I read that many had problems with this.
Try BatteryStatus. It's a 3rd party app that is updated regularly.
2. When you load the battery... how do you know when it's really loaded since there are those battery usage reporting problems.
The Kaiser itself will show a green light on the front when the battery is fully charged. Since this is a function of hardware, and not controlled by software, it should be accurately represent a 100% charge.
3. Where can I set my device to remain operational until the battery is dead (stop auto-shut down at 2% or stuff like that). I read that some extended life batteries are reported as dead by Windows and after reboot they are back to 34%. So a workaround to point 1 is to stop the device from auto shutting down and remaining operational until there is no energy left.
Probably a registry setting that controls this. Sorry I can't be more specific on this one.
axonn
18-03-2008, 04:15 PM
gqstatus0685: as far as I know, a hard reset does not mean pulling out your battery. That's just like something between soft reset and hard reset. Hard reset = erase all OS settings, right?
NotATreoFan: thank you for your answer, it's the first good and complete answer I got. I still hope for an answer to question 3. As for battery status: I think I have it since I use Dutty's Windows, and I think he included it.
me20714
18-03-2008, 06:26 PM
Is it possibly to deactivate HSDPA (instead use GPRS or UMTS -> fast enough for the headlines) to automatically download emails? I'm pretty shure this costs me a lot of battery. It only downloads mails every 30 minutes, but when i turn it off, the battery lasts a lot longer.
NotATreoFan
18-03-2008, 06:52 PM
Is it possibly to deactivate HSDPA (instead use GPRS or UMTS -> fast enough for the headlines) to automatically download emails? I'm pretty shure this costs me a lot of battery. It only downloads mails every 30 minutes, but when i turn it off, the battery lasts a lot longer.
Technically, this post should not be in this thread. It is for an issue/question separate from the original poster's. That being said...
Google search. Check out the results here (http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AXda-developers%2520search%2520engine%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F% 2Fwww.google.com%2Fcoop%2Fintl%2Fen%2Fimages%2Fcus tom_search_sm.gif%3BLH%3A65%3BLP%3A1%3BGFNT%3A%236 66666%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3B&adkw=AELymgX83gOU7c4ByopE-OVA6qhChpmSXU3HokJWyV3xo0hWHVnnzcGUD2AnSrk5ck1lZTI OO0OdSlyuWDAEnRS8riwy4UY0QBQzQQ1x0Z3lGd8G6xG9cQM1u 6Z55WJ6oytB8Mkw-upNQ3YC0ei8pgR7O2dvFjE6yphGJJ-sOw52k901WcSqtode08LBCByKC3LZHiMoH6lihs1W7PWj8hn19 hpcXNxQkrCcVfO8zaiPenNvG8WKuDU&q=kaiser+turn+off+3g&btnG=Search&cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw). The very first link will answer your question.
BusterTyTN
18-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
Check out sticky "HTC models with GPS: abnormal battery drainage in standby" - I bet that's exactly what you experienced. Do you remember whether you had GPS on, the day before you put your phone aside?
Thanks
Buster
gqstatus0685
18-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Soft Reset-Stick Stylus in the hole
Hard Reset-Turn off phone pop battery out then back in
Master Reset-Erases all data on the phone
rienzi
18-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Soft Reset-Stick Stylus in the hole
Hard Reset-Turn off phone pop battery out then back in
Master Reset-Erases all data on the phone
Nope, I don't think this is quite right (unless I have missed something). Taking the battery out is not a hard reset. I tested this just now to be sure and it had no discernible effect on my phone. To hard reset, hold the two soft keys down together, then put the stylus in the hole and wait for the instructions (i.e. take the stylus out of the hole and press the green phone button). The phone will then be back to factory condition and you will lose all of your data.
Mikulec
19-03-2008, 08:21 AM
Nope, I don't think this is quite right (unless I have missed something). Taking the battery out is not a hard reset. I tested this just now to be sure and it had no discernible effect on my phone. To hard reset, hold the two soft keys down together, then put the stylus in the hole and wait for the instructions (i.e. take the stylus out of the hole and press the green phone button). The phone will then be back to factory condition and you will lose all of your data.
finally someone who knows what a hard reset is.:cool:
axonn
20-03-2008, 11:08 AM
Hey, I was the first one who knew ::- D.
Ok, so my Mugen battery should be coming these days. I installed batteryStatus but I wonder: what if this program simply gets the measurements from the same place Windows does. So far I always saw battery status report the same digits as Windows. Are you sure there are cases where Battery Status disagrees with Windows on the battery measurement?
Still nobody to tell me how to make the Kaiser stay on until the battery dies (stop auto power off)?
fadimck
20-03-2008, 12:08 PM
no problem here with the battery
axonn
21-03-2008, 10:09 AM
What do you mean? Do you have the Mugen?
mcutugno
21-03-2008, 07:16 PM
Im wondering the same thing. Any answers on how to prevent the auto shutdown?
axonn
24-03-2008, 06:29 PM
I just received my Mugen 3000 today. Let's see how it behaves. Still nobody know anything about the auto shutdown stuff? I know I read in a search of mine on this forum that there is a way to stop it, from the registry!??!?!
axonn
26-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Ok so my Mugen 3000 is here.
I have created a new thread in the ACCESSORIES for reviews and such...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380192
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