Qwest Mogul - Need GPS Navi. but am very confused..

[.mak]

Hey all,

Not new to electronics, but am very new to the Mogul and PDA/Pocket PC flashing..

My new Qwest Mogul will arrive tomorrow and, from what I've read, GPS is not enabled out of the box.. I've been reading that I can re-flash the device to somehow enable the internal GPS chip for use with my TomTom Navigator 6 s/w, but can't figure out how exactly to do it, and I don't want to jump into it and brick my new Mogul.

Right now I've got DCD_3.0.1_Qwest.exe which I picked up here (thanks, by the way!) but I'm not sure what to do with it, and (maybe I'm blind, but..) I can't seem to find a tutorial on how to use it with my Qwest Mogul..

If possible, could someone guide me through the steps on getting my Mogul setup so I can use get this GPS chip enabled?

Also, will I be losing any functionality re-flashing my Mogul? Will it 'look' any different?

Again, sorry if I sound like an idiot to you guys.. but I'd like to learn how to do this so I can quit bugging everyone about it haha

TIA,

-mak

[Psionfenix]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376150

should have what you need to know.

Basically:
Run the 2.4 unlocker
Run the official ROM w/ Radio
Flash the dcd_qwest ROM

[.mak]

Thank you very much!

So the instructions you've posted will, in fact, work for the Qwest Mogul to unlock/enable GPS Navigation? :D

-mak

EDIT:

Also, there are some things in that list of 'Removed' items that I would like to keep, such as; Entertainment (Games), Adobe Reader, etc.. I'm assuming the reader can be downloaded from Adobe, but how do I go about getting the games back?

I've now got the following, please let me know if it's everything I need, and what exactly each item is;

DCD_3.0.1_Qwest.exe
dcd_titan_kitchen_3.0.1.rar
titan_SPL_2.40-olipro.exe

As for the radio, it says it's included with the official Sprint ROM, do I use the Sprint ROM on my Qwest Mogul???

[madman34]

Just a recomendation here, but just in case you get a defective one you might want to not touch the ROM for a few days and put it thru the paces. If you get a bad one it is always best to know before messing with it. Afterwards, the 3.01 is a good ROM, but a bit tricky even for the experienced because things are not quite ironed out with the radio and serveral experienced people have injured their units, so I would recomend 'cutting your teeth' on 2.3.2, as it worked really well for me and is pretty cut and dried and the process is stable. In order to get the apps you want like acrobat and games you can use the kitchen and get them in there.

[Psionfenix]

You also won't need the kitchen (i'd worry about that later, to be honest, not good to "cut your teeth" with a kitchen).

You do need the offical sprint ROM, since it includes the radio.

If i recall correctly from when i flashed my friend's qwest 6800, I did this:

olipro's 2.40
Offical sprint rom [when the customizations come up (ie. tap screen to begin), i flashed the DCD 3.0.1 qwest rom.

But it's been a few days so i'd search around here and on ppcgeeks to double check.

As madman said, however, I'd put the phone through the paces for a few days to make sure all is well. Run some benchmarks and such to put a strain on it. If you flash and figure out you have a bad phone...well, you're out however much you paid for it.

Good luck and welcome to the fun :D

[.mak]

Thanks guys, I think I understand now :D

I'll keep my Mogul stock for a bit to make sure everything is good, but Qwest offers an exchange for the phone if it's defective, and I have handset insurance in case it gets 'lost'.. so I'll be covered for the future there.

So am I correct to assume I should do the following;

Install titan_SPL_2.40-olipro.exe

Then install Official Sprint ROM w/ Radio (where can I get that, or do I already have it??)

Then, during customizations, shut the phone down and install DCD_3.0.1_Qwest.exe, or an older version that might be less buggy?

If I do the above, it will unlock GPS on my phone? ..in the end, other than some applications, will I lose any functionality (e.g; Text Messaging, WiFi, etc)?

Thanks again,

-mak

[Psionfenix]

http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...CS_AM_Ship.exe

that should do it :)

shouldnt lose any functionality, make sure you write down all the information and such about msid, mdn, etc. Should be a post in here about that somewhere, I can find it for you on here for ppcgeeks if you need.

edit: it was in ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667

[.mak]

The link provided is broken, is this the correct file; ftp://Mogulrom:sprinttitan@files164.cyberlynk.net/RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4 350H_SPCS_AM_Ship.exe

[reddhanky]

After reading this thread, I've decided to take the plunge and attempt the upgrade to my Qwest Mogul. Just to verify, I do the following:

Use Olipro 2.4
Flash to Sprint Upgrade
Flash to the DCD 3.0.1

Are there any codes or other information that I am going to need to write down before I start the procedure?

[Psionfenix]

@ mak: yes, that's the right one, sorry, didnt check my links :/

@ reddhanky: read the PPCgeeks thread, dont forget to get the getspc program for your epst unlock code.

[.mak]

http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_...CS_AM_Ship.exe

that should do it :)

shouldnt lose any functionality, make sure you write down all the information and such about msid, mdn, etc. Should be a post in here about that somewhere, I can find it for you on here for ppcgeeks if you need.

edit: it was in ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667

The guide you linked to is still a little bit confusing for me, not sure why, but I don't see this part anywhere;

> g. click view info and Security. Write all these settings down.

I've taken note on everything else, and the A-Key didn't apply here since it was empty..

Help? :D

-mak

EDIT:

> h. click view info and select M.IP, again record these settings.

I have the following;

M.IP Settings
M.IP Default Profile
M.IP Customer Profile 1
M.IP Customer Profile 2
M.IP Customer Profile 3
M.IP Customer Profile 4
M.IP Customer Profile 5

Which one do I want to write down?

[reddhanky]

But when I try to install the Sprint update (3.35), I get to the screen where it shows my current version (2.13) and to update to the sprint version... click next then next and the ppc reboots into bootloader, then the program crashes (ROMUpdateUtility has stopped working... A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.). Any ideas? I'm using Vista and have followed the instructions to the letter.

[Psionfenix]

I dont run vista (usually i run linux actually, even successfully flashed in linux, i hate MS). But i'll look and see what i can find.

Is there a way to right click the RUU and choose compatibility as XP maybe?

[reddhanky]

Tried using compatibility mode but wouldn't work.

[Psionfenix]

hmm

so you're in bootloader but can't run the RUU?
or you can't get into bootloader?

[reddhanky]

I've finally managed to upgrade my Qwest Mogul software to DCD's 3.0.1. The problem I had with updating to Sprint 3.35 was solved by right clicking on the install icon and setting the compatability setting to XP SP2 for ALL USERS (just changing it for the current user didn't work). Once I made the Sprint update, I entered bootloader mode ran the DCD rom and everything went smoothly.

Now to play with it and see how it works! I will update you guys to let you know how it goes.

Thanks to all, especially DCD and |||Bored|||, for the help with this process. It's been a bit nerve-wrecking for me, especially since I"m a Vista user on top of how few people have the Qwest Mogul. Again, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, and did I say, THANK YOU!

[reddhanky]

My Mogul seems to run much more smoothly (and dare I say it, FASTER) and after loading all my applications I am running at about 20MB free RAM. GPS works! I've been putting this darn thing through its paces and it hasn't crashed yet! So far, the sound through my Motorola s9 headset is working flawlessly...

Happy camper!

[reddhanky]

Been searching but can't find the stock ROM for the Mogul. Does anybody know where I can get it (just in case I ever have to send my mogul in for exchange/repair)?

Also, does anybody know if there is a way to put a shortcut on my Mogul to turn the GPS on and off?

[kiawud]

Reddhanky:

I also have the Qwest Mogul and tried to do the upgrade (as follows):

1) Flashed Olipro 2.4
2) Flashed Sprint ROM 3.35
3) Flashed DCD 3.01_Qwest

However, after the Sprint flash, I allowed that customizations to complete. When I went to DCD, everything worked ...except for the internet/data.

I went back and reflashed the Sprint ROM and just left it there. Again, everything but the internet/data is working (I can send/receive calls and SMS).

What's worse, I tried to downgrade back to Qwest 2.13 but do not seem to be having any luck (the ROM will install, but won't change the radio ROM ... then it just sits at the black HTC splash screen and won't boot).

Qwest is sending me a replacement phone, but before I send this one back (or brick the replacement), I'd like to know how things are working for you...

P.S.: If anyone knows how to downgrade the 3.35 radio ROM back to 1.40/1.47 on a Qwest Mogul, please let me know.

- kiawud@gmail.com

[kiawud]

Just an update:

I'm managed to get my phone back to the Qwest 2.13 ROM. As it stands now:

Bootloader/SPL: Olipro 2.40
Radio: Titan_1.47
ROM: Qwest_2.13

To get the radio ROM loaded, I had to go the SD route. Specifically, after installing the Qwest_2.13 ROM (and watching it freeze at the black 'HTC' logo page), I found a way to load the old radio ROM:

1) I formatted my microSD card as Fat32
2) Placed the 'titan_1.47.CDMA.nbh' file on it as "TITAIMG.nbh"
3) With the phone powered off (battery removed), I inserted the microSD card and entered the bootloader (held the 'power' + 'camera' + 'soft reset button' ... keeping the 'power' + 'camera' buttons held after releasing the 'soft reset'
4) When the bootloader came up, it prompted to load the 'TITAIMG.nbh' file. I hit the 'power' button as directed. After about 5-10 min, the upload succeeded and I hit the 'soft reset' again to reboot.

Some items to note when it came back up:
1) The MSL code I had no longer worked (I got it after I did the Sprint ROM upgrade). Fortunately, when working with Qwest, they gave me the MSL code ;)
2) The MSID info was way off (not sure if it was because of the Qwest ROM I used, or all the crap I did trying to clear/access the extrom info)

In any case, after resetting some of the EPST info, the phone reset and worked exactly like it's supposed to.

Next Step:

A) Retry the Sprint ROM (this time I have my M.IP password!!!)
&/or
B) Don't play with the Sprint ROM and just use DCD Qwest_3.01

I'll post any success/failures. But rest assured, if you do decide to play around, there does appear to be a way to get back to the beginning ;)

-kiawud@gmail.com

[kiawud]

Okay ... so after having restored my mogul to the Qwest 2.13 stock ROM, I went back through the upgrade process to see if I can get it to work ... and it seems I have.

Steps taken:

1) Unlock ROM with Olipro 2.40
2) Upgrade using Sprint 3.35 (DO NOT ALLOW IT TO CUSTOMIZE THE SYSTEM)
3) Upgrade using DCD Qwest 3.0.1

Prior to starting any of this, use 'GetSPC.exe' (download it to your phone ... it runs from there) to get your MSL and use it to grab 'EVERYTHING' from EPST (##778#)

So now, as it stands, I have a Qwest/Mogul phone running:
- BootLoader/SPL: Olipro 2.40
- Radio: Sprint 3.35 (from Sprint Upgrade ROM 3.35)
- ROM: DCD Qwest 3.0.1

I hope this helps anyone else with Qwest/Mogul thinking of upgrading. If I can help in any other way (ie: I'll keep the files I used around for a while ... may even create a zip/rar of them) feel free to email me:

- kiawud@gmail.com

[thatsgr8]

Are you able to get your Wi-Fi working. I just finished updating but I cannot connect to the internet through my home network. Any one else having this problem?

[kiawud]

thatsgr8:

So far, everything is working (WiFi, Internet/Data, Phone, Text, Email, Bluetooth, alarms when charging, etc.)!!!

If you're having problems, please post what you've got running (Bootloader, Radio, ROM) and how you got there.

-kiawud

[thatsgr8]

Ok my Wi Fi is now working but I am trying to figure out how to see if my GPS is working? Here is what I am running:

- BootLoader/SPL: Olipro 2.40
- Radio: Sprint 3.35 (from Sprint Upgrade ROM 3.35)
- ROM: DCD Qwest 3.0.1

Everything else seems to work (for now). I finished the ROM update last night so I am still putting it through the ringer. I have noticed it runs quicker.

I downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but it will not find a satalite. Do you know where the settings are for the Int GPS or how to activate it.

[chirodj5]

Just an update:

I'm managed to get my phone back to the Qwest 2.13 ROM. As it stands

To get the radio ROM loaded, I had to go the SD route. Specifically, after installing the Qwest_2.13 ROM (and watching it freeze at the black 'HTC' logo page), I found a way to load the old radio ROM:

1) I formatted my microSD card as Fat32
2) Placed the 'titan_1.47.CDMA.nbh' file on it as "TITAIMG.nbh"
3) With the phone powered off (battery removed), I inserted the microSD card and entered the bootloader (held the 'power' + 'camera' + 'soft reset button' ... keeping the 'power' + 'camera' buttons held after releasing the 'soft reset'
4) When the bootloader came up, it prompted to load the 'TITAIMG.nbh' file. I hit the 'power' button as directed. After about 5-10 min, the upload succeeded and I hit the 'soft reset' again to reboot.


-kiawud@gmail.com

following the exact steps listed above to downgrade
Sd- format to fat32
use :Olipro 2.40

load qwest rom 2.13 ( SD card- rename file to TITAIMG.nbh)
phone freezes at HTC screen

load radio 1.40 ( SD crd - rename to TITAIMG.nbh)
boot it up, adjust the screen, and let customizations run automatically after 3 seconds

when performing these customizations, the phone freezes, saying the file: "\Windows\RUN_SPRINT_TSK.lnk" does not exist.
at this point it will not respond

i have tried numerous reloads of the radio and rom in different orders etc.
no difference

anyone have any ideas

[chirodj5]

upon further research, it turns out the sprint customization failure may not be an issue at all.

however , my msid is incorrect, and i dont seem to be able to edit it.

i am asked for an unlock code

any ideas how to edit this item

[thatsgr8]

Your MSID should be your phone number.

[kiawud]

That also happened to me (after downgrading from Sprint ROM to Qwest 2.13, a lot of my EPST data was bad).

To get the MSL, find an application called 'GetSPC.exe' (I found it as part of a zip called "MSL Generator.zip" ... if you can't find it, email me and I'll send it.

Download it to your phone, and run it from there (you'll need your ECN Hex number ... which you can get from looking either under your battery or ##778# -> 'view' and looking through there).

Hope this helps...

-kiawud

[chirodj5]

although i had the correct MSL # , i was not able to edit the epst using either the ##778# or launching epst from the \windows\epst file location.

the phone kept saying my code was invalid

i finally called qwest.

they had me type in ##970697# at the phone keypad

this launched a different epst window and allowed me to edit the settings without using a password.

back in business

now, its time to try the upgrade again

[kiawud]

Just to give an update/summary...

GetSPC.exe seems to provide the MSL for phones that have been upgraded. Not sure why. As such, before you upgrade, just call Qwest and ask them for the MSL (so far, they haven't refused).

Once you get the necessary info from the EPST, you can easily upgrade (takes about 30-45 minutes.)

Once interesting thing to note is that you can either follow the initial directions and go all the way to DCD's Qwest 3.01 ROM (which is very nice) .... or you can stop at the Sprint 3.35 ROM installation and manually edit the EPST info to get all the features working.

As it stands right now, I'm running the following:

Bootloader: Olipro 2.40
Radio & ROM: Sprint 3.35

Once I had the HA and AAA passwords from my 'M.IP Customer Profile #1", I was able to manually enter them on the Sprint installation and get everything to work (Internet, WiFi, Phone, Text/SMS, GPS, Bluetooth, etc.)

So, to summarize:

Option A (DCD's Qwest 3.01 version):
- Step 1) Call Qwest and get the MSL for the phone
- Step 2) Use the MSL to 'Edit' the EPST via "##778#" (make sure to get the passwords from the "M.IP Customer Profile #1")
- Step 3) Install Olipro 2.40 (Hard-SPL.exe)
- Step 4) Install Sprint's 3.35 ROM (Do NOT let it customize the phone)
- Step 5) Install DCD's Qwest 3.01 ROM

No additional settings should be needed. DCD's ROM should pickup all the existing setting on the phone and everything should work. If not, use 'GetSPC.exe' to get the new MSL for the phone (again, not sure why it changes, but it does) and manually 'correct' the EPST settings.

Option B (Sprint's 3.35 ROM):
- Step 1 - 4) Same as Option A
- Step 5) Allow the phone to customize itself (phone services should work, but internet will not).
- Step 6) Use 'GetSPC.exe' to get the new MSL and use it to manually 'correct' the EPST settings (especially the 'M. IP Customer Profile 1' passwords and IP Addresses).

Hope this helps...

-Kiawud

FYI: I've been able to test both options on several phones, two of my own and one friend's, with complete success. However, please keep in mind that there is always a risk and no one can provide any guarantees...

[thatsgr8]

So I downloaded the "GetSPC" program to my phone, entered the number to generate the password, got the password. When I entered the password I get an error of a wrong password. Tried it several times only to get the same password. Anyone know of another way I can get access to it without using the other method mentioned above from Qwest. That does not allow full access to the information. I need to get FULL access to change the rules about the phone connecting to a data network. (not WIFI). It continuously tries to connect t othe data plan. Thank God I do not have one or my bill would be through the roof. This error and the static noises it started making warrantted for a replacement.
I just received my replacement phone in the mail and want to flash to a ROM that activates the GPS. Both phones I have right now have the same problem with an error when I enter the generated password.

Anyone have any answers? Anything will help.:cool: