CorePlayer vs TCPMP

[jetherson]

Question:
What features in CorePlayer that you personally like, that TCPMP doesn't have?

[eaglesteve]

Question:
What features in CorePlayer that you personally like, that TCPMP doesn't have?

The skin is one. It's more beautiful.

[jetherson]

how about playback features? technology features?

if i play movies at fullscreen, the skin wont matter :)
thanks for the input though, eaglesteve.

[eaglesteve]

how about playback features? technology features?

if i play movies at fullscreen, the skin wont matter :)
thanks for the input though, eaglesteve.

I get the feeling that TCPMP is better technology wise, as it can play flash video at least. This is ironic, as the commercial version should have been the more capable one.

[imamlab]

hallo, interesting,
i use tcpmp for best video player,
fyi,, video *.dat just rename to *.mpg
then play in fullscreen, very easy n nice, no need video-converter software :D

and coreplayer for audio player,
it have optimal equalizer than tcpmp, :D

[briggs81]

I get the feeling that TCPMP is better technology wise, as it can play flash video at least. This is ironic, as the commercial version should have been the more capable one.

You need a license from adobe which they did not want to pay for (coreplayer). tcmp is not quite legal.

[panvita]

tcpmp is not quite legal.

Don't understand?! "Not quite legal" equals "illegal" or "legal"?

[jetherson]

i think that means "illegal" lol.

[Confucious]

I think the Flashvideobundle was created by some enterprising soul to help us without strict regard for the legality of the process - no doubt someday someone will do the same for coreplayer but obviously I would never use it as it is not legal....

[AllGamer]

for those that follow the history behind...

TCPMP is Coreplayer, but that was during the Alpha and Beta stage.

once the product became 1.0 it turned into CorePlayer, so it stopped being free.

many software you find in Sourceforge.net usually starts free, then after much help from the public on feedback, code fix, etc, they turn it into a released product, and forever the source code is forgotten in the past.

[lennie]

I use TCPMP for youtube videos, it would have been nice if the guy on treocentral that did the flashvideobundle had made it easy to add other flash sites to the mix so youtube wouldn't be the only one supported. (I used to use TCPMP for everything video and audio wise)

I use corplayer for video and and audio, internet radio streams (supports a lot of streams tha TCPMP doesn't). It would have been nice if it was skinable though (it prolly is but don't think so, never really checked it out).

[eaglesteve]

Things have changed since I last posted. Now I definitely much much prefer coreplayer rather than TCPMP. For those of you still not aware, you can use Coreplayer to search for and stream youtube directly without having to download and save the flv file first. The streaming speed and picture quality is very good.

[photon2]

See this post...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2472170&posted=1#post2472170

[lennie]

Things have changed since I last posted. Now I definitely much much prefer coreplayer rather than TCPMP. For those of you still not aware, you can use Coreplayer to search for and stream youtube directly without having to download and save the flv file first. The streaming speed and picture quality is very good.

yeah, but coreplayer can't compare to TCPMP's youtube quality. Do the comparison for yourself, download a video with subtitles with CorePlayer and try to read it, then do the same with TCPMP and see which is better.

[Tadeusz]

It is not working on my new Athena X7510 with WM6.1 original rom. It gives an crush.txt error.

I've tested 0.72 an 0.81 version. Any help?

[eaglesteve]

yeah, but coreplayer can't compare to TCPMP's youtube quality. Do the comparison for yourself, download a video with subtitles with CorePlayer and try to read it, then do the same with TCPMP and see which is better.

I tested the performance of the two using a video I've downloaded.

Both were set to play the video in raw frame buffer, highest quality.

Result:
Coreplayer: 105.95%
TCPMP: 89.5%

Visually I could not detect any difference, but if we go by the benchmark, then coreplayer wins.

[norbertflyer]

It is not working on my new Athena X7510 with WM6.1 original rom. It gives an crush.txt error.

I've tested 0.72 an 0.81 version. Any help?

Also here on my Ameo wm6.1; latest TCPMP wont even open. Crash.txt is all I get.

If anyone has any help it would be appreciated.

cheers,

Richard

[Tadeusz]

Also here on my Ameo wm6.1; latest TCPMP wont even open. Crash.txt is all I get.

If anyone has any help it would be appreciated.

cheers,

Richard

CorePlayer is the solution.

[AllGamer]

Did you try CorePlayer

it works great on X7510

It is not working on my new Athena X7510 with WM6.1 original rom. It gives an crush.txt error.

I've tested 0.72 an 0.81 version. Any help?

[lennie]

I tested the performance of the two using a video I've downloaded.

Both were set to play the video in raw frame buffer, highest quality.

Result:
Coreplayer: 105.95%
TCPMP: 89.5%

Visually I could not detect any difference, but if we go by the benchmark, then coreplayer wins.


My friend I stream my youtube videos, it would make little sense for me to download them on my computer and then watch them on the phone. I find that tcpmp gives me the best youtube quality. I will give you a a video to try.

install tcpmp and the flashvideobundle plugin, then search youtube (full youtube not mobile youtube) with pocket IE for bleach 166 part 1/2 or part 2/2 and watch with tcpmp, click on the video and play.
then use coreplayer youtube and search for that same video and see which gives the best viewing experience.

truth the be told I had problems with core player just to start viewing the video even though I'm over my home wifi connection, all coreplayer did for me was mainly buffer and more buffering.
tcpmp played fine and crisp (I got a little buffer over 3G though, but once I give the video a 10 or 15 seconds before I hit the play button at the beginning there is no problem).





It is not working on my new Athena X7510 with WM6.1 original rom. It gives an crush.txt error.

I've tested 0.72 an 0.81 version. Any help?


it seems you're trying to run the old tcpmp on WM6.1, you'll have to get the recompiled version that works for WM6.1
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
make sure you get the flashvideobundle plugin too

[cktlcmd]

it seems you're trying to run the old tcpmp on WM6.1, you'll have to get the recompiled version that works for WM6.1
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
make sure you get the flashvideobundle plugin too

I saw the TCPMP download CAB, but where is the Flash Video Bundle plugin you mentioned? All I saw was the developers source code for it.

[eaglesteve]

My friend I stream my youtube videos, it would make little sense for me to download them on my computer and then watch them on the phone. I find that tcpmp gives me the best youtube quality. I will give you a a video to try.

install tcpmp and the flashvideobundle plugin, then search youtube (full youtube not mobile youtube) with pocket IE for bleach 166 part 1/2 or part 2/2 and watch with tcpmp, click on the video and play.
then use coreplayer youtube and search for that same video and see which gives the best viewing experience.

truth the be told I had problems with core player just to start viewing the video even though I'm over my home wifi connection, all coreplayer did for me was mainly buffer and more buffering.
tcpmp played fine and crisp (I got a little buffer over 3G though, but once I give the video a 10 or 15 seconds before I hit the play button at the beginning there is no problem).


No, I don't download into my computer. I either play it direct like you do, or I download directly into my phone (not computer) and play it. Most of what I watch I watch more than once, so it does not make sense to stream it direct. Cost too much, as I don't have unlimited data plan.

Make sure you set your youtube format to H264 to have fast and high quality streaming.

[Tadeusz]

it seems you're trying to run the old tcpmp on WM6.1, you'll have to get the recompiled version that works for WM6.1
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
make sure you get the flashvideobundle plugin too

I did test this as well, but all i got was fine audio and scrambled video. No matter if it was fvl or wmv file, so gave up and went to coreplayer.

[LocoHarami]

Did you try CorePlayer

it works great on X7510

I want to buy CorePlayer, but Hangango tells me that it is not compatible with the X7510. I do not want to pay $30 for it then have issues! :eek:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/2773318284_6196a5dcf1_o.jpg

[thynk]

TCPMP .72 with default settings used to be wonderful on the base 7501 wm6.0 ROM. In fact, the performance was so good I could watch movies off my file server with no lag or noticeable frame drops. Now, watching movies off the network share is unthinkable and watching them off the microdrive is just as bad, around 8% performance.

Using the core, i can force it to use direct draw and ignore the ATI. That gives me pretty decent performance under the 6.1 ROMs, not quite to the level I used to get, watching them off the file sever is pretty bad, but watching them off the microdive is acceptable.

If any of you TCPMP guru's want to give me a hand, nudge, or kick in the right direction of solving what has changed I be much appreciative, even over wifi it's a pain to pull the videos over to device. I posted this question twice in the ROM forums, but never got as much as a single response.

[beta_boy]

I want to buy CorePlayer, but Hangango tells me that it is not compatible with the X7510. I do not want to pay $30 for it then have issues! :eek:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/2773318284_6196a5dcf1_o.jpg

Ignore the error and purchase it... it will work fine on the device.

[Ponder]

When someone tells me it'll play 640x480 video at full speed with no loss of audio sync I'll pay for it. So far I've yet to see this confirmed.
I did try a generic serial to see if it would, but so far no luck. When I get luck, my money will go to Core.

I do pay for the software I get good use out of, but so far it's sadly lacking (as is everything else for the X7510), and I'm not going to pay for flawed software.

[benko286]

how can i use subtitles in coreplayer????

i have 1.2.2.5

[jetherson]

check out coreplayer's site's forum. i've read there somewhere that they are not planning to support subtitles. tcpmp handles .smi subtitles though (atleast with a plugin). too bad i had to convert the common .srt to .smi before i can use them. i've already tried and confirmed that on tcpmp. as a matter of fact, i use tcpmp just for subtitles. but for everything else, i use coreplayer. oh i also use tcpmp for playing mpegs and any video with ac3 audio.

[Zenoran]

bleh I was wanting to try this coreplayer but they don't have a trial?!?!? no screenshots NOTHING.. hardly says anything on their site about the program yer just supposed to blindly give them $30 and hope you like it?

I was playing around with pocketmusic too and it seems cool... I'm wondering about this coreplayer though... :(

[AllGamer]

Go with tcpmp then, it is free, and does the same thing

bleh I was wanting to try this coreplayer but they don't have a trial?!?!? no screenshots NOTHING.. hardly says anything on their site about the program yer just supposed to blindly give them $30 and hope you like it?

I was playing around with pocketmusic too and it seems cool... I'm wondering about this coreplayer though... :(

[Zenoran]

Go with tcpmp then, it is free, and does the same thing

I'm having problems with tcpmp playing a playlist of mp3's served from an IIS server... it basically runs fine first minute or so of the song but then every 5-10 seconds or so the windows "working" animation comes up in middle of screen for a second and pauses playback... I know it's not the source or data problems it's def something with playback in tcpmp so I'm trying to find an alternative app...

I have no problem payin for a good program but I do have a problem paying for something blindly. I can't believe they dont have a trial version.