[PreRelease BigStorage] Just2Clean and Two New Kitchen [Updated:04.22.08]

[ivanmmj]

Update: 04/22/08
This is a release for the ROM and the porting kitchen. It does not port XIP's, yet, just SYS folders, but it does what it needs to do. I haven't tested it in more than just one port, though. The one I did test came out perfect, though.

The ROM has 63.XXmb FREE storage and 31.XXmb free with SD RAM.

To flash it you MUST have a HardSPL'ed Herald or Wing and a microSD card. Just place the HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. Do NOT rename it to anything else. Then hold the camera button down while you turn on the device and then press the volume down slider when it asks you to. Wait until it says it's done. I haven't tried to run any activesync other than to an exchange server so tell me if that isn't working.

I'll be done with finals this week and then I can finally work on the other kitchen.
I'll upload it when I come back from school.


Update #2: 04/14/08
Just added a screenshot. Mind you, this is WITH SD card AND after I installed my "troubleshooting" tools.

Update: 04/14/08
60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD
No compression (I'll probably released a UPX'd version, as well...)

Fixed all bugs found so far except for two. Maybe you guys can help me figure them out... the sad part, I've fixed these same two bugs countless times in my other ROMs, but I just can't remember how I did it. lol

1. Comm Manager: It doesn't matter what comm manager I place in there, it still boots up the built in comm manager. (The one that Tmobile has anyways.)

2. The Vibrate button. I have all the files and I have it setup so that it vibrates when you hold down the comm button, BUT it keeps trying to open VoiceCMD even though I deleted all visible entries for it...


Update: 04/03/08
Ok guys. Here's some info on my current projects.
1. Just2Clean is almost done. I just have to fix some bugs. The OEM is from an unreleased Wing ROM, the SYS I ported over using... well keep reading.
2. My phone currently is running currently has 62.38mb total of storage... and I was able to shrink the extrom and use that ROM space for storage. Granted, you need to have HardSPL and a memory card for this to work, but it's awesome. This ROM is also so small and stripped that it's the fastest ROM I've ever used and I don't even have any tweaks on it, yet.
3. Kitchen 1: PPCBuildOS: Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on porting it, but after I get Just2Clean fixed, I'll be working on it. AWESOME kitchen. The creator is so willing to help, too. Made me a developer of the Atlas section (Herald compatible so no worries for those Herald users.)
4. EasyPortKitchen. So far, I've got it porting SYS folders just fine. I haven't been able to setup XIP porting, but that's because I still don't understand the process behind it. If someone wants to explain it to me, I'll be able to finish this kitchen. So far, Just2Clean had its SYS folder ported in this way.

EDIT: 5: I plan to release the ROM with language packs for the kitchen. Then you can just check on the language you want the ROM to be in while building the ROM.



New Post
Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.

Just2Clean will be a WM6.1 stripped down better than JustClean was, more modulized and with its OEM based on an unreleased ROM.

I'll keep you guys posted but I'm not sure of how much I can talk about now that I'm helping develop the Atlas/Herald side of it...



Old Post
A few things that I've been thinking about on my "off" time... basically, the time that I'm just unbusy enough to have my own personal thoughts outside of work or school related ones. lol

All these ROMs would be compatible with my kitchen.

1. SuperClean - A ROM built with lots of compression and minimal programs. The point of this is to be the "bigstorage rom" where you can't even flash it normally because it doesn't meet the size requirements of the RUU/SPL.

2. JustClean2 - Based on an unreleased OEM from an unreleased ROM that I made before I switched to WM6.1. It's based on a Wing ROM... but it has potentials. It just feels faster and it seems to take less space than the current Herald base I'm using. Not to mention that some people are having issues with Herald based ROMs and some bluetooth enabled items.

3. OldClean/NewClean - SuperClean and JustClean2 may have both WM6.0 and WM6.1 versions... I find that, although WM6.0 is slower, it also takes up less space (and therefore can net more storage space) and some people don't seem to like a lot of the WM6.1 features.

What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.

BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?

[papamopps]

I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...

Maybe now there are new builts.

OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha


ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.

I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs ;)

lol

[GiZZy]

Good to see ur back to cooking roms :D

Well i Love the functions of WM6.1 so just about and clean 6.1 rom you cook will be great :D

so i'd guess from ur descriptions that'd be SuperClean...

Edit: I also use the Office suit a lot but i can add that by a cab, since i know most clean roms dont have it since it takes quite a bit of space

[ivanmmj]

I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...

Maybe now there are new builts.

OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha


ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.

I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs ;)

lol
These ROMs are meant to be used with my kitchen. That way they can add what they want and what they want only. Some people just don't use any programs and want the available storage space for other reasons. (Like photos.)

The SuperClean would attempt to create a lot more free space in the ROM. (For example, I have 54.93mb total (I've got a few files saved so I'm not sure how much I had free at first) currently in the ROM I'm currently using and it's no where near optimized and it's one of my fattest unreleased "SuperClean" ROM's that I have ever made.
Imagine being able to get 60mb free WITH all the apps that you use. It would be awesome. :-p

[GiZZy]

Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins

[rosewood]

I vote for just a 6.1 Rom w/ good tweaks (and ready to go for tmo usa) and no extra programs.

[gauntman]

BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?

Yes I have, and no issues at all.

[CommZ]

BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
I did, but there were some serious issues (I can't remember which though). I had reporeted them in CleanROM thread for sure.

BTW, when are you going release final of your oven? I need to fix several small issues in my custom ROM, but I'm too lazy to do so with current version :)

[papamopps]

Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins

And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)

to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.

But as a clean rom for cooking - OK

but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)

and than we can cook....

thx


AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????

the kaiser people have it..

[ICP-Fan]

And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)

to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.

But as a clean rom for cooking - OK

but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)

and than we can cook....

thx


AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????

the kaiser people have it..

I took a look and found out the kaiser guys have 5.2.19716. How do I extract the OS from their roms? I gotta have that build!:D

Must... Cook... Rom...

[ivanmmj]

And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)

to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.

But as a clean rom for cooking - OK

but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)

and than we can cook....

thx


AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????

the kaiser people have it..

I'm currently learning how to port properly for that specific reason. 19202.1.0.0.

As far as the skinning goes, the final should have the option to have no skin. I'll work on that. The base should have a few things disabled. I'm also working on that. As far as RAM goes, I've gotten up to 38mb free before, but it was missing a lot of items... I could always just modulize the whole ROM and let people choose EVERYTHING down to if they want bluetooth support or not. This can net some pretty nice amounts of free memory. It's just more work for me.
I am also thinking of modulizing the MUI's in the ROM, effectively allowing people to just download language packs. Doubleclick on the file, wait until it does its thing and then you have a French ROM, or a German ROM, or whatever...

It's not that I can't do it, it's that it takes time.... time I don't have.

[prscott1]

What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.


It seems to me that the 6.1 ROM is a bit faster when doing some things (like opening the windows folder using total commander) is involved - but I think the 6.0 can be tweaked to be just as fast? I would be very excited to try either your SuperClean or JustClean2 as long as the ROM is based on Wing.

I used your CleanROM for quite a while with NO problems but on a Wing.

[ivanmmj]

Update on the first post.

[kidnamedAlbert]

New Post
Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.


yay new kitchen!

[madcow_mda]

wow, can't wait to try the superclean (superfast???) rom

[CommZ]

Let us script kiddies get our toys!

[ivanmmj]

Updates on the first page!

[CommZ]

So it will come with the same kitchen like JustClean?

62 megs...sounds cool. I hope it will be possible to stuff the rom with office etc. and flash it as usual.

[ivanmmj]

Not with the same kitchen. With a new GUI kitchen that the guys at PPCkitchen.org have made for other phones. I'm just helping them port it to the Herald/Atlas.

The EasyPortKitchen is something you would use to port a ROM.

You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.

[stahlsau]

You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.

That's the best of your releases. Just a clean package so everyone can add what he needs, noone has to have stuff on their phone that they don't like. It's simply a Good Thing (tm).

[madcow_mda]

how about some teaser screenshots :D

great work!

[prscott1]

Update: 04/03/08
Ok guys. Here's some info on my current projects.
1. Just2Clean is almost done. I just have to fix some bugs. The OEM is from an unreleased Wing ROM, the SYS I ported over using... well keep reading.
2. My phone currently is running currently has 62.38mb total of storage... and I was able to shrink the extrom and use that ROM space for storage. Granted, you need to have HardSPL and a memory card for this to work, but it's awesome. This ROM is also so small and stripped that it's the fastest ROM I've ever used and I don't even have any tweaks on it, yet.



WOW - can't wait to test drive Just2Clean!!

[MDANavymom]

Looking forward to checking this out once you get it posted.

[neoobs]

Will this work with your old kitchen until the new kitchen comes out? Will you release the sys and oem folders?

[madcow_mda]

will this realease also allow us to install QuickGPS?
does it actually work with a bluetooth GPS device?

[ivanmmj]

how about some teaser screenshots :D

great work!

Tonight I'm building the newest build. I'll make sure to include some screenshot software. It's no where near done, though, because of my time constraints. I just don't have the time to mess with it. For the most part, it's almost fully functional minus a few quirks here and there that are fixable in minutes, and the looks are.... well, basic. But it's a stripped ROM, it's supposed to be basic. At most, I might use a VERY small flat black theme on it.

Will this work with your old kitchen until the new kitchen comes out? Will you release the sys and oem folders?
As always, all OEM and SYS folders will be released. If you make a ROM out of them, please just make sure you post where you got it from. Other than that, go crazy on it. lol
It will be mostly backwards compatible with the old kitchen. Unfortunately, in order for it to be compatible with the new kitchen, I had to break some things with the old kitchen...

will this realease also allow us to install QuickGPS?
does it actually work with a bluetooth GPS device?
I don't see why it wouldn't be. If QuickGPS is in my kitchen, then yes, you can install it. Will it work? I don't see why not. :-)

For those interested: The ROM is Wing based, so for those having issues with the Herald ROMs and Car Bluetooth systems, this will hopefully fix those issues. As always, I will provide both Herald and Atlas (Wing) compatible drivers.

[neoobs]

As always, all OEM and SYS folders will be released. If you make a ROM out of them, please just make sure you post where you got it from. Other than that, go crazy on it. lol
It will be mostly backwards compatible with the old kitchen. Unfortunately, in order for it to be compatible with the new kitchen, I had to break some things with the old kitchen...

Awesome man... out of all the developers your the only one that has even answered my question about the folders.

I will not be releasing my ROM as it is just for personal use. I like my stuff to be different and customized.

[madcow_mda]

I was thinking, last time I did not have a clear idea of what all the programs listed in the kitchen were for. Maybe it is possible to add a description of some sort? Perhaps use the herald wiki page so that everybody can contribute?

[ivanmmj]

Awesome man... out of all the developers your the only one that has even answered my question about the folders.

I will not be releasing my ROM as it is just for personal use. I like my stuff to be different and customized.

Thanks for the compliments. ^_^

Just2Clean should be released soon, I just need time to test it. My school life and work life and currently running me to the ground... I'm so tired, it's not even funny.

I was thinking, last time I did not have a clear idea of what all the programs listed in the kitchen were for. Maybe it is possible to add a description of some sort? Perhaps use the herald wiki page so that everybody can contribute?

This will be alieviated a little once the new kitchen is released. By default, all their packages have more information on them. All of my packages that make it accross will NOT have that information, though... unless people want to help me add that info into each and every package. :-) The problem with the wiki is that I still have to go in and edit each and every package. But a wiki with the programs isn't a bad idea, actually... the packages don't have to have the info embeded into them, do they?

[neoobs]

Thanks for the compliments. ^_^

Just2Clean should be released soon, I just need time to test it. My school life and work life and currently running me to the ground... I'm so tired, it's not even funny.

I completely Understand... right now my house is under construction... not fun at all when working on the computer and dust is flying everywhere.



This will be alieviated a little once the new kitchen is released. By default, all their packages have more information on them. All of my packages that make it accross will NOT have that information, though... unless people want to help me add that info into each and every package. :-) The problem with the wiki is that I still have to go in and edit each and every package. But a wiki with the programs isn't a bad idea, actually... the packages don't have to have the info embeded into them, do they?

If you want I can help... I am a web developer and can easily take care of a wiki page and update it when I get info. I can even search out descriptions on the net I just need to know the package names. Let me know and we can exchange IM addy's

[prscott1]

For those interested: The ROM is Wing based, so for those having issues with the Herald ROMs and Car Bluetooth systems, this will hopefully fix those issues. As always, I will provide both Herald and Atlas (Wing) compatible drivers.

Sounds awesome! Can't wait.

[ivanmmj]

Update on the first post!

[prscott1]

Update: 04/14/08
60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD
No compression (I'll probably released a UPX'd version, as well...)

Fixed all bugs found so far except for two. Maybe you guys can help me figure them out... the sad part, I've fixed these same two bugs countless times in my other ROMs, but I just can't remember how I did it. lol



Sounds incredible! Sorry mate, I am not able to offer help on your two bugs - I've no experience at real cooking (only in your easy cook kitchen).

[GiZZy]

Looks great :D

I dont know enough to be of any help with the 2 probs u got, i hope u get it ;)

Patiently waiting for release :D

[ivanmmj]

Added a teaser screenshot.

[prscott1]

Added a teaser screenshot.

You are such a tease! :D And it worked! I'm drooling for this ROM now!!

[loco41]

the htc rom tool does not work on vista can u post a version that works on vista please

[CommZ]

There is a workaround for it around here

[loco41]

can u give me a link to the thread where I can find it please :)
There is a workaround for it around here

[zcink]

60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD





Man if someone could make a rom with this -- wow!
The only thing I need in there is Internet Sharing.

[madcow_mda]

great work, im getting more and more anxious to try it out.
sorry cant help with the bugs though, i have noe experience with rom building

[ivanmmj]

Sorry guys. I've been busy and with finals this week, I'll be even busier... But, I will try to upload the current build today. I was working on two builds side by sides so I hope I upload the right one... I know I'm a little unreliable with the release dates, but this is just a side thing for me that I do whenever I have free time and unfortunately, I haven't had any free time.

[prscott1]

Sorry guys. I've been busy and with finals this week, I'll be even busier... But, I will try to upload the current build today. I was working on two builds side by sides so I hope I upload the right one... I know I'm a little unreliable with the release dates, but this is just a side thing for me that I do whenever I have free time and unfortunately, I haven't had any free time.

Good luck!! I work at a University, so I know the stress of finals week on the students.