Navizon - Prime your gps and make money w/ your Mogul!

[nuguy]

UPDATE: As of 6/08/08 Navizon is working for CDMA again!!! newest version 3.5.1.1 (the one that works for CDMA)

UPDATE: Starting Sunday April 14 2008, the cash value of each reward will be set to $15....
I have been using this for a while and now w/ the new radio needing a "primer program" this works great for me!

Now that we all have built in GPS, I would like to introduce you to what I use to start my GPS. I open Navizon, turn on my wifi, and pause till it is open. Then I open my mapping ap (I like Live Search).

Navizon gets started quickly with the cell tower and wifi access point triangulation, and then gets the gps chip going quickly; so live search is ready to go by the time I get in a destination.

Navizon:
http://www.navizon.com

Navizon is a wireless positioning system that works a little bit like a GPS, except it uses Cellular Towers and Wifi access points instead of satellites. In addition to being a wireless position system, Navizon offers features like the Directions, Buddy finder, Geotags and more...

This software relies on a community of users who contribute data to the system (WiFi and Cellular towers) when they have a GPS device. And the cool thing is that we can earn money doing it with the Navizon reward system:
http://www.navizon.com/navizon_rewards.asp
I'm already using it and you could make money too with it if you're interested. All you need is to install it on your phone and have Navizon connected to your GPS. Every Wifi access points that you pass, every cell tower that you log will mean money in your pocket.

So now that we have a phone that is compatible with Navizon, you should really check it out.

If you plan on registering, please do so by clicking on the link below:

http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5E5D5D5F

That way, I can also earn some referral points if I'm the one who introduced you to the system ;-)

If you like the wifi positioning by itself - you can cash in your first $20 payout for the full version, after that it gets popped into your paypal account, and if you turn your friends onto it you can get a little extra too!

In fact, hey birthday boy, Mike (wideawake), why not put a link to this in the help ppcgeeks thread, I bet it would generate a bit of "mad money"!:twisted:

UPDATE: This is no longer relevant - uncheck load at startup in settings...(edit - I do have one nitpick w/ this ap though; I have to go and delete the ap from the windows/startup folder all the time - I don't need it to start at boot for cryin' out loud! - eh I should make a mortscript to delete it at closing the ap or something..)

UPDATE: Go to http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=221345#post221345 for more discussion

[nuguy]

Anyone like this, hate this, already use it, I personaly realy like it. I had tried it over a year ago when I had a 6700 and no bluetooth, and didn't have good accuracy, but no programatic problems. Now, I use it everytime I go anywhere at all new, I'm kind of addicted!

[nuguy]

Over 350 views, and no responces? Does everyone already use it?

[whatsit]

I installed it and kept it running to see how long it would take to drain the battery. My battery went from 97% charged to a low battery warning in about 5.5 hours. That was with the screen turned off, too. The GPS, Wifi, and cellular radio were all enabled during this period.

This app (or, more accurately: the way it uses your hardware) sucks your battery dry, so be sure to have a charger handy.

[JudasD]

I installed it and kept it running to see how long it would take to drain the battery. My battery went from 97% charged to a low battery warning in about 5.5 hours. That was with the screen turned off, too. The GPS, Wifi, and cellular radio were all enabled during this period.

This app (or, more accurately: the way it uses your hardware) sucks your battery dry, so be sure to have a charger handy.

5.5 hours? you are VERY lucky. it pulled my mogul from 90% to warning about about an hour.

JD

[nuguy]

Krap Sakes, it's not for walkin around on a reg basis - the WiFi on the mogul will suck the battery dry quicker than a $20 ho when you give 'er a $50!

(think about it...)

I rarely use it except when I'm driving and plugged in. I might go ahead if I knew I was walking in a prime spot, but to walk around for 5+ hours Navizoning, I would want a car battery! Same as wardriving, it's on the heavier side of what our moguls can do, but it can, so we do!

If I was going to walk with it I might actually consider one of those "Solar Cell" hat things...

[t0mmyr]

I've earned about $80 to my paypal so far just running this on my mogul since I first heard about it...


# mapped Points
Wifi discovered by you 8374 25122
Cell towers discovered by you 860 12900
Wifi already mapped 4615 4615
Cell towers already mapped 667 1334
Bonus points 0
Total: 43971


You have claimed 4 rewards


so i can verify they do pay off cuz my paypal now has balance!

if anyone wants to help me earn a little more cash use my referral :)

http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5C5F565F5D59

[dannyzen]

What port does GPS run on? The program didn't pick it up automatically

[t0mmyr]

What port does GPS run on? The program didn't pick it up automatically

com port 4, baud rate 4800

[TdiDave]

I would like to introduce you to Navizon:
http://www.navizon.com


If you plan on registering, please do so by clicking on the link below:
http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5B565D5F5D56
That way, I can also earn some referral points since I'm the one who introduced you to the system ;-)

I signed up under the post obove me, maybe this could become a pyramid scheme...

But after using for a day have found when with wifi, gps & evdo network with verizon the battery drain is crazy. I think the battery gauge even went down while plugged into my hadsfree kit in the car.

[nuguy]

Try going into the wifi card settings (start/settings/connections/wireless lan/power settings tab) and set the slider to either the middle setting (what I use) or best battery. Then in the power settings of Navizon and check 'let Navizon manage power', then set the slider to the middle setting. For best power savings you could also set your backlight settings lower (I do this sometimes, not always).

That works pretty well for me, the car charger still makes the power bar go up!

Good luck, and post back your results...

[TdiDave]

I did both of those setting today and it worked good.

Did find one problem, i removed my handset from the car cradle to use outside the coar for a call that lasted about ten minutes then when i replaced the phone the charging light came on blinking not solid and the battery just kept dropping. After doing some reading found out that phone charging did thermal shutdown because of heat and would not charge battery untill it cooled down.

Seems the wifi, gps and phone call all at same time really start to heat things up.

[nuguy]

Especially if you have it it the hot sun i.e. on your dash.

I try to make sure I don't have anything else open as well, the more open, the more battery used.

[silverkorn]

i installed this today and cant get the program to run without a fatal error

im running DCD 3.0.1 and everytime i try to start the service it crashes and will not give a detail description on the error as i have the free version

anyone else having this problem?

[nuguy]

UPDATE: Starting Sunday April 14 2008, the cash value of each reward will be set to $15....

Updated first post to reflect this info...

[gbenj]

love the program, spread the wealth please, heres my referral:

http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5B595F5F5958

i just got my first reward today, used it to upgrade to the premium version for free. thankfully im on a campus that has a couple thousand routers, and no one else smart enough to use this program, so all are mine for the taking...

Aside from the money aspect, its just kinda fun and addicting, to walk around see how many u can get

ENJOY!!

[silverkorn]

after having so much trouble trying to get the program to run correctly and having major battery drain after installing the program i removed it and dont expect to be going back

[sbddude]

I've had great results so far. Just one day's use and over 1000 points. I found that it seems to pick up more in residential areas.

Also for anyone thinking of signing up, share the love. :)

http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5C5F5C5757

[nuguy]

Must have just missed your post yesterday. Do you have .netcf 3.5 installed? did you soft reset after install before running it the first time? these are the most commeon reasons for errors. personally I would have tried a reinstall. However it's not going to be for everyone. hit me up if you want more help.

Otherwise,

eat your vegetables...

i installed this today and cant get the program to run without a fatal error

im running DCD 3.0.1 and everytime i try to start the service it crashes and will not give a detail description on the error as i have the free version

anyone else having this problem?

[silverkorn]

yes everything is installed correctly and i did a soft reset after the install.

when i try to start the service it comes up with:
"could not find file: "Program File\Navigon\BPDNaptree.dat"

i have ran the sync multiple times and i have uninstalled and reinstalled the program multiple times and still get the same error

[nuguy]

This thread is about NaviZon, not NaviGon. I have never tried NaviGon, so I don't know what the problem is with it. - Good Luck!

yes everything is installed correctly and i did a soft reset after the install.

when i try to start the service it comes up with:
"could not find file: "Program File\Navigon\BPDNaptree.dat"

i have ran the sync multiple times and i have uninstalled and reinstalled the program multiple times and still get the same error

[silverkorn]

i ment navizon not navigon

[nuguy]

I just recently saw on their support forums that the error you are getting is from trying to use the local database. To resolve, check remote database, sync, then check local database, and sync again. This creates the local database on your device.

Hope that helps.

I use the remote database being as I am using my data plan, if you don't have a unlimmited plan though local is the way to go.

If you go with the local datbase, I recommend setting up a smaller area first as your area, so the database isn't too huge.

[nuguy]

FYI:
If you have any other questions, there is a lot more discussion at http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=221345#post221345

Happy Navizoning!

[nuguy]

UPDATE: As of 6/08/08 Navizon is working for CDMA again!!! newest version (only one that works for CDMA) is here!--> http://www.navizon.com/downloads/Navizoncab_3_5_1_0.cab

Happy Navizoning!!

[nuguy]

Updated Version 3.5.1.1 - working well with CDMA

Coming Soon: Locate by SMS - Find your phone with Navizon!

[nuguy]

One of our fellow Navizonians is having some issues, and I'm trying to help troubleshoot, we may all get a better product to boot!

Can everyone please post the following:

1)what carrier
2)what rom/radio combo
3)what version of navizon (most current = 3.5.1.1)
4)do all of your Navizon lights turn green (are you able to collect for both wifi, and aps)