Customize a Rom?

[molesaied88]

Hello all, i was wondering if it was possible to take a rom made by someone, and remove some of the apps installed on it and maybe add a few others. Thanks in advance.

[pvs]

Hello all, i was wondering if it was possible to take a rom made by someone, and remove some of the apps installed on it and maybe add a few others. Thanks in advance.Of course it is. That's what the ROM cookers do, and is the basis for these forums.

It will take a LOT of studying in order to pull it off, but everything you need to do it is provided by the gurus who build the utilities and give them to us here.

You will need to do a lot of searching, studying, reading and practicing. I don't believe you will find someone who will be able to spoon-feed you. It will take a lot of effort and perseverence.

Probably the easiest way will be with the likes of Pandora's Kitchen. But you should really read up on things...even with that kitchen, so that you know what you're doing.

Good luck,
-pvs

[jo0ker]

Of course it is. That's what the ROM cookers do, and is the basis for these forums.

It will take a LOT of studying in order to pull it off, but everything you need to do it is provided by the gurus who build the utilities and give them to us here.

You will need to do a lot of searching, studying, reading and practicing. I don't believe you will find someone who will be able to spoon-feed you. It will take a lot of effort and perseverence.

Probably the easiest way will be with the likes of Pandora's Kitchen. But you should really read up on things...even with that kitchen, so that you know what you're doing.

Good luck,
-pvs

So you can't just uninstall apps that are built into the ROM, just like any other application, if I'm getting this right?

[galaxys]

So you can't just uninstall apps that are built into the ROM, just like any other application, if I'm getting this right?

That's correct, U can't uninstall cooked apps...

[jo0ker]

That's correct, U can't uninstall cooked apps...

Alright, but when you "unlock" the Extended Rom... can you then install/unistall apps that are in the ROM? Or what's the deal with the extended rom? :confused:

Sorry for all my n00by questions :p

Cheers

[pvs]

Alright, but when you "unlock" the Extended Rom... can you then install/unistall apps that are in the ROM? Or what's the deal with the extended rom? :confused:

Sorry for all my n00by questions :p

CheersExtended ROM is a memory area on your phone that typically holds some customization programs that are run when you boot your device for the first time after a hard-reset. It is typically about 10MB of space on a Hermes. Unlocking it gives you access to this space, which you can then use as if it was another memory card ... storing applications and/or data there. Using this space comes with its own set of ramifications, which you should read up on before attempting any modifications.

Unlocking this space does not do anything about programs and files that are flashed to your phone with the ROM. These files can be "masked", but can never be deleted or overwritten through normal phone usage. The only way to change what programs are installed at Hard Reset is to customize the ROM before flashing it to the phone. That is why the current trend with ROM cooking is to make the ROM as lean as possible, so that apps can be added, updated and deleted at will.

Hope this helps,
-pvs

PS: "MASKING" files in ROM is what happens if you attempt to overwrite one with a file by the same name. What happens here is that the old file is really still there ... taking up the same space it used to, but the new file is the one that the OS sees. It is MASKING the old file. If you delete the new file you just copied there, the old one magically reappears, and cannot be deleted.

[jo0ker]

Extended ROM is a memory area on your phone that typically holds some customization programs that are run when you boot your device for the first time after a hard-reset. It is typically about 10MB of space on a Hermes. Unlocking it gives you access to this space, which you can then use as if it was another memory card ... storing applications and/or data there. Using this space comes with its own set of ramifications, which you should read up on before attempting any modifications.

Unlocking this space does not do anything about programs and files that are flashed to your phone with the ROM. These files can be "masked", but can never be deleted or overwritten through normal phone usage. The only way to change what programs are installed at Hard Reset is to customize the ROM before flashing it to the phone. That is why the current trend with ROM cooking is to make the ROM as lean as possible, so that apps can be added, updated and deleted at will.

Hope this helps,
-pvs

PS: "MASKING" files in ROM is what happens if you attempt to overwrite one with a file by the same name. What happens here is that the old file is really still there ... taking up the same space it used to, but the new file is the one that the OS sees. It is MASKING the old file. If you delete the new file you just copied there, the old one magically reappears, and cannot be deleted.

Wow, thank you for taking your time and explaining it all! It really helps!
I think I got the hang of it now. :p

I appreciate it.
Cheers :)