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redbandana
15-04-2008, 10:08 AM
I had this phone for almost two months now and I have not experienced anything that has turned me away from another HTC device. I purchased it with only 35mins of call time for only $210 and I believe its worth double that. My life has become more organized, I get much better reception, I can use the internet at decent speeds, hell and the video quality isn't that bad, i got TT6, and so on.

I've really enjoyed this device, xda, and the learning process.

bapssystupr3m3
15-04-2008, 10:17 AM
i've paid 800 cdn when it first came out and dont regret one bit...yes maybe there are issues with the phone but which phone is perfect? its all about personal prefs and give and take..to me this phone is good and i can live with whatever wrong with it...having said that its not the perfect phone cuz everyone wants this n that...i'll still switch over to the x1 just because its new and id like to try it out...if its not good then i'll go back to kaiser...if kaiser isnt good...maybe i'll look into another machine...but a phone is a phone...its not perfect...unless we manufacture our own phones

crazy horse uk
15-04-2008, 10:37 AM
Since most forums are essentially self-help groups, it's not such a surprise. When I think of my previous WM5 i-mate - the hourly soft re-sets, unreadable screen in sunlight, constant need to re-calibrate the screen, poor receptoion (even though at the time I thought it was the coolest thing) - I thank my lucky stars!

chuk

andaroo
15-04-2008, 11:51 AM
i agree, its not perfect and the camera is rubbish, i still have the hermes and i prefer the camera on that but, updated hardware and built in gps does it for me.

People should start complaining about things that matter!

Boinng
15-04-2008, 01:04 PM
I'm irritated on principle about the driver issue - I strongly believe they should have supplied whatever software support was necessary to get the best out of the hardware, because we all paid for the latter and we shouldn't have to get it working ourselves.

On the other hand, generally the performance is acceptable and as a whole the device works very well. I'd probably be more annoyed if I'd paid a lot of money for it, but as it was quite cheap for me I'm more than happy with it overall. But HTC need to take note of the driver furore and the damage it's quite fairly done to their reputation.

DeepThought
15-04-2008, 01:46 PM
Why does everyone appear to complain about their kaiser?

I don't! ;-)
No, seriously: I thinks that's a false impression. In this forum you will find a lot of perfectionists who always want to get out the most of their phones. And even if they do, they still look forward in buying the next generation. At least that description fits me. ;-)

ChumleyEX
15-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I don't complain about mine and I was one of the first people in my area to buy one. I Think someone cried wolf regarding the video driver and now everyone wants to be cool too. I would like to see them but my phone kicks other phones butts for breakfast.

NotATreoFan
15-04-2008, 03:50 PM
I was perfectly happy with my 8125 (Wizard) until I saw Engadget's preview of the Tilt. I immediately pre-ordered it through AT&T Premier, and had it in hand on launch day. Even though I will probably buy the Xperia sometime next year, I am in no rush to get rid of my Tilt.

ProudPop83
15-04-2008, 03:57 PM
As a noob to the whole genre of ppc's... I have to admit from everything i have seen here at work with other pda's and ppc's, My tilt kicks the s--t out of the rest. I know there are complaints about the video drivers but f--k it, i didnt buy my tilt to watch videos... i bought it to take care of my daily needs for when i cant get to my computer....

p51d007
15-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Probably because it is human nature to complain......
I've had mine since the first of October 07, and haven't really had any issues.
I had to return it because the USB port died. Didn't really like the camera
until the hotfix came out, which pretty much fixed the camera issue for me.

ProudPop83
15-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Exactly... Ive upgraded like twice and got the fixes I wanted and I'll tell you I wont get rid of this phone for awhile.

adidas4275
15-04-2008, 05:32 PM
I think the only real reason for a complaint is the driver issue...


people had expectations that the device would out perform a hermes for video playback because of the data sheet and the graphics chip. Then when people got it and it shuddered and such due to no driver support people got mad.


I understand, people bought the phone expecting one thing, spent a lot of $$ and it did not meet there expectations.


Maybe it was their bad for having expectations but, they were founded on qualcomms own marketing for the 7200 chip.

ProudPop83
15-04-2008, 05:41 PM
Oh I understand what you're saying about the driver issues, I'd be pissed too if I had bought for those issues. Its HTC/Qualcomms f--- up for putting out the ifo like they did. They have a right to be upset if they bought the phones expecting something that wasnt delivered.

mchapman007
15-04-2008, 05:42 PM
No complaints on my side so far! XDA helped with any issues and couln't be happier. I too will look into the SE Xperia but the Tilt will stay

ProudPop83
15-04-2008, 05:45 PM
If it weren't for me finding XDA I probably wouldn't have figured out the possibilities of my tilt. And I have found some really awesome stuff for it.

Cavey.co.uk
15-04-2008, 09:07 PM
Sure, I am annoyed that my Kaiser is not being all that it could be as its missing some drivers, but I still like it and don't think I have ever complained.

However, I liked my Hermes. If I had not broken it I would probably not have upgraded when my contract ends in June (I only want a 12 month contract max and am a student, so not a heavy spender and can't really afford £150 for the handset as well as the contract).

I see a note about a HTC Raphael - it might get me to upgrade, but then I might just ignore it as I don't dislike the kaiser. It's not like the Wizard which really annoyed me by the time I upgraded. At the moment the only thing I am interested in is moving to a rolling 1 month contract (which is not a bad deal) and I might buy the Raphael without a contract.

gqstatus0685
15-04-2008, 09:48 PM
The tilt is the best phone i've ever had. Who says the camera is rubbish?! did you see the panoramic shots some dude took and posted here. Those are clear as crystal. I mean geez people want a perfect cell phone with nikon capabilities. People can't seem to remember that it's a PHONE!!.. if you look at how far we've gotten in technology it isn't a bad device. I personally won't get the Xperia. I'll wait for the next HTC launch. Videos play fine on my phone and I have full movies on my SD card and stream music and videos from my home pc with no problems. People just like bitching. Like I said before nobody started bitching until Bill Nye the Science guy started that driver post.

DarkDvr
15-04-2008, 10:57 PM
read my signature..
remember people... quest for perfection ends at you feeling empty and betrayed.

bluemamba
15-04-2008, 11:21 PM
I have taken mine to Hell and back ...the fact that it still works is amazing :)
I realise it has some drawbacks..but I am fine with it. Not changing it anytime soon.

djp76
16-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Im quite happy with my tytnII had it for six months now,it is a shame that the drivers are not there for the imageon card,mainly because im a bit of a gamer and was looking forward to seeing what it was capable of.

Unfortunately it seems its not upto much, the slow down on call of duty is laughable i think my nokia 6680 could out peform it.

That aside i am very pleased with it.

If it wasnt that i was put onto this site by someone i probably would have sent it back (HTC TAKE NOTE)...I got this phone free on cotract at the time they were going for £440 pound on ebay i would have been seriously pissed if id paid cash for it outright.

A set of drivers would be sooooo nice,so keep putting in the hard work those who are working on them,and thanks to xda devs a invaluable lifeline to many.

kilrah
16-04-2008, 12:22 PM
I'm personally also very happy with it, had a Hermes before and it's 2 worlds. So much faster, the extra RAM finally allows for decent multitasking, the GPS...
On the Hermes only listening to music through A2DP would bring the thing to its knees, being so slow it was impossible to do anything elso on it at the same time. Now with the Kaiser I do the same, but also run 2 GPS programs at the same time, browse the web and check emails and it's fine.

I've read about the driver "problem" but personally don't grasp it, as the Kaiser already plays video smoother than my Hermes and previous Wizard. I wasn't expecting anything more.

BusterTyTN
16-04-2008, 01:02 PM
The Kaiser works for me as well, but except for the reduction in size, a few added features like GPS and minor optimizations I see no real milestones. No increase in processor speed. No increase in graphics resolution (or improved driver support). And then, out of the box the phone seems more buggy than my old Blue Angel. Even the boot process takes much longer.

It's a good phone but HTC could have done better. Way better.

Buster

kilrah
16-04-2008, 01:48 PM
No increase in graphics resolution (or improved driver support). And then, out of the box the phone seems more buggy than my old Blue Angel.

Funny, way different here. I was resetting my BA at least 4-5 times a day, the Kaiser is the most stable I've had so far. Running Alex's V5.2.