5 mm 1.8" hard drive the max?

[JayRayMee.NL]

Did someone manage to change the hard drive already?
I have the full instructions and pictures now and all I need is a disk with a higher capacity. I have found them in stores here, being ATA100 ZIF, 1.8" single platter - so 5 mm in height - drives (80GB).
Other than the capacity that's exactly the type of disk that's in the Shift now.

The maximum capacity of the 1.8" single platter ones is 80GB at this time. 100, 120 and 160GB capacities are double platter drives, being 8 mm in height.
Does somebody know (perhaps the ones that have done the job already) if this 0.3 mm difference matters inside the Shift, or if that would be no problem at all? I can't tell that from the instruction pics.

80GB is nice, but 120GB or 160GB (160GB LaCie LittleDisk, just take the disk out of the case) would be even better, ofcourse.

[XenoV]

3 mm, not 0.3 mm :)

[JayRayMee.NL]

3 mm, not 0.3 mm :)

Woops my bad!! I guess I meant 0,3 cm.... :rolleyes:

[lucid]

Can you post the specs of current harddrive (there also in other posts, but to make this post more valuable?)

Please also post the specs and URL of your intended 80GB replacement.

I might order and try :)

[facdemol]

yes that would be a good ideea. untill i dissasemble my shift it would be nice to have a refference point.

[facdemol]

no problem upgrading to double platter hard drives. At least in size.
I've opened the shift and yep, there is enough place.

[JayRayMee.NL]

no problem upgrading to double platter hard drives. At least in size.
I've opened the shift and yep, there is enough place.

Hi there,

Could you do a detailed description in how to remove the keyboard?
Thanks!!

[waici]

no problem upgrading to double platter hard drives. At least in size.
I've opened the shift and yep, there is enough place.

Hi all,

"There is enough place" : Does anyone have already tried to change the hard drive with a double platter one ?
This could confirm that it is possible.

Now for the ones who have replaced it, which models have you installed and work properly ?

Shift's owner since 3 days, I already have only 2 gb free space ! I have to quickly replace my hdd !

Thanks for your responses,

:cool: waici :cool:

[ferrett1968]

I confirm that there is place for a 120 hdd, the problem is to clone the OS!!!!!


http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=240513

;-)

[waici]

I am waiting for a 100gb hard drive and I think a ghost copy should work fine.

I'll let you know.

[YannR]

As I wrote here :
Upgrading the HDD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377684&page=7)

BE CAREFUL!!!

I've got my MK1011GAH this morning.
There is space to get 8 mm HDD into the Shift but expect to have to remove some rubber and you won't be able to avoid HDD being in direct in contact with the metalic shields of the WM board.
Also, the SIM reader is slightly compressed, making a little harder to insert the SIM.
Adding to that, the back cover will not be able to be in close contact with the part holding the battery area black sticker (approx. 0.5 mm space, visible at the left side of the SIM reader). Nothing dramatic... BUT definitely, replacing a 5 mm height HDD by a 8 mm one into a Shift is a challenge!

Basically, I don't recommend you to do it. Pressure on the WM part, lower vibration protection by removing significant part of the rubber, constraints on the casing...

(By the way, my 100GB HDD is faulty. Asking for RMA... )

Ferrett,

I'm surprised you didn't report this "space" problem. Your comments?

[CowboyJoe]

One thing I found when I had my Shift tore down is this; I have the 3G/GSM version and I found that the device that holds the SIM card sticks up and prevents me from putting in a Toshiba MK8009GAH 80gig drive that I have due to is is just a little thicker than the MK4009GAL drive currently in the Shift. The HDD ribbon cable fit just fine. If I had been able to get the case to close all the way I imagine I would of had an 80gig Shift.

So has anyone found a larger drive the same thickness of the MK4009GAL?

[YannR]

CowboyJoe,

I second that : 8 mm height HDD don't fit properly the Shift. Most pressure applied on the SIM card reader, indeed. Not heathly at all, I would say.

Unfortunately, as of today, anything above 40GB 1.8' HDD is 8mm height...

The only alternative could be 1.8' SSD drives (I'm not sure about the size, btw) but they are not yet widely available and tremendously expensive! See this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394571)

[riki0081]

So has anyone found a larger drive the same thickness of the MK4009GAL?

Hello CowboyJoe,

I found MK6028GAL.
It's 5mm thickness with 60GB.

http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=HardDrivesOpticalDrives/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK6028GAL

riki0081

[YannR]

Thank you, Riki0081! :)

[CoDeX2k]

there is also a 80gb version of the 5mm link is here http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK8025GAL

[YannR]

there is also a 80gb version of the 5mm link is here http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK8025GAL
Mmmh... I see :
Height = 0.31" (8mm) for this one. :confused:

[CoDeX2k]

Mmmh... I see :
Height = 0.31" (8mm) for this one. :confused:

ups... sorry i tought its GAL so it must be 5mm...

does somebody know whats in a ipod classic 160gb???

[CoDeX2k]

would this one work!?

Samsung MCCOE64GEMPP

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP

[JEM]

I've had my eye on that one as well. I'm pretty confident it will work, but I'm interested in the opinions of others.

I've come to the conclusion that an SSD is the way to go. Power consumption, according to the Samsung specs, appears to be one-half of a standard drive. And the performance specs are ridiculous. With only 1GB of RAM and Vista, the page file is constantly being accessed. I'm thinking the SSD will provide noticeable improvements in both responsiveness and battery life.

The downsides are price (~$1000USD) and capacity. I have read that Intel will release their SSDs in Q3. Initially, they will have a 1.8" 80GB and later a 120GB version. This could potentially drop the cost of the current 64GB drives by half. I've decided to wait awhile. Otherwise it could feel alot like like burning a $100 bill every month for the next 5 months...

[YannR]

Keep in mind the connector... We need ZIF here.
Do you know which connector Intel will use (if not SATA one...)?

[Editing] I see a ZIF connector but rather limited storage capacity (up to 16GB), aiming "low-cost" laptops...
Guessing we will have the HTC Shift getting dust in a corner when appropriate storage capacity become available. Same comment when comes to Samsung's SSD products versus price...

[CoDeX2k]

The Samsung is using a ZIF ;-) I orderd one today. will get it end of next this week. For business I don't need more then 64GB its enough for me. I also have a 32GB SD Card Class 6 from Panasonic in the Shift with my Personal files in exchange with my bigger notebook X300 from Lenovo.

[YannR]

Hello CoDex2k,

Ok... I guess I was tired when I did some posts on this thread... :rolleyes:
First, HTC Shift is using LIF Connector. So, CoDex2k, tell us if you have been able to get things fitting together (the Samsung MCCOE64GEMPP
you ordered)...

And last "erratum" : I see the specs for the MK8025GAL says it's a 5mmm model... So my previous remark is wrong (unless Toshiba had some modifications done on the specs web page...).