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Phil Bishop
19-04-2008, 12:29 PM
** UPDATE 09-OCT-2008 **

New website now available - after logging in, use the "Live Link" top right to connect to your live broadcasts.

Website
http://www.ix-m.com/gps

Latest CAB is always available here
www.ix-m.com/downloads/livecam.cab

News and Blogs about the app
http://www.ix-m.com/News.aspx

Inca X website
http://www.incax.com

met3ora
19-04-2008, 03:52 PM
This program seems really cool, and I was watching shogunmark's video for a second, but wouldn't this absolutely destroy your battery? Activating a 3G connection already triple's my battery drain, and GPS throws on another 200-300 mA.

james105
19-04-2008, 08:19 PM
Hi All,

We have a new version of an application, which is now available on beta and would greatly appreciate it if any of you have time to participate in the trial and provide me with feedback on whether the software works or not on your device.

In simple terms the new version of the application allows you to broadcast both an image stream and GPS data which can be viewed either in real-time or later via the Live Media Web application

Here's a quick video introduction to the software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fpQlqJROrw&rel=0

Device requirements:

Windows Mobile 6, camera and GPS (internal or external via BT)
Windows Mobile 5 + .NET CF v2 (or above) camera and GPS (internal or external via BT)


Download CAB from
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.5.1.cab
or visit www.ix-m.com/gps-beta from your mobile

Quick video to show you how to set-up the app on your phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76lzPUwTyHM&rel=0

Website access from your PC to view your broadcasts and published broadcasts
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta

Support and Feedback
Please use the contacts form on the website
http://www.ix-m.com/contact.aspx?type=7

As this is my first posting here, hopefully I've got all the html tags correct and I hope some of you have time to try this out and let me know what you think about the app.

Many thanks

Phil Bishop
Inca X Mobile

hey phill this program looks very promising but im trying to try it out but am having difficulties i make it all the way to initializing camera n then it fails on me this is the error msg that comes up maybe u can help me out with this:

A native exception has occurred in
livecam.exe.
Select Quite and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.

ExceptionCode: 0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress: 0x00f115fc
Reading: 0x00000000
Faulting module: ix-cam.dll
Offset: 0x000015fc

at WMCamera.GetCameraResolutions(IntPtr pResolutions, Int32& iResolutionsSize)
at WMCamera.GetAvailableResolutions()
at BroadcasterView.TakePictures()

ne advise ne1 lol :(?!?!?

shogunmark
20-04-2008, 08:17 AM
This program seems really cool, and I was watching shogunmark's video for a second, but wouldn't this absolutely destroy your battery? Activating a 3G connection already triple's my battery drain, and GPS throws on another 200-300 mA.

This is really good app and is very promising. I have been testing for phil for a while on this. Yes it can put quite a drain on the battery, however when im driving i have it plugged into the charger so as long as i stay topped off then it does alright.

shogunmark
20-04-2008, 08:19 AM
hey phill this program looks very promising but im trying to try it out but am having difficulties i make it all the way to initializing camera n then it fails on me this is the error msg that comes up maybe u can help me out with this:

A native exception has occurred in
livecam.exe.
Select Quite and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.

ExceptionCode: 0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress: 0x00f115fc
Reading: 0x00000000
Faulting module: ix-cam.dll
Offset: 0x000015fc

at WMCamera.GetCameraResolutions(IntPtr pResolutions, Int32& iResolutionsSize)
at WMCamera.GetAvailableResolutions()
at BroadcasterView.TakePictures()

ne advise ne1 lol :(?!?!?

i had experienced this before with some of dutty's roms, if the .net isnt cooked into the rom correctly then it throws major errors like that. try re-installing netcf and see if that cures your problems!
*i will note that on some cooked roms re-installing netcf doesnt help because of the way it was cooked in.

james105
20-04-2008, 09:20 PM
i had experienced this before with some of dutty's roms, if the .net isnt cooked into the rom correctly then it throws major errors like that. try re-installing netcf and see if that cures your problems!
*i will note that on some cooked roms re-installing netcf doesnt help because of the way it was cooked in.

ill give that a shot but i doubt thats the issue cause i did a hard reset n installed it n it worked fine and then i tried using it again later on and got that same error msg again :-(

Phil Bishop
21-04-2008, 04:35 PM
I've had a couple of reported problems about running the app on the Sprint Mogul, if anybody has sucessfully (or otherwise) run the app on a Sprint mogul it would be helpful to know if this is generic problem or not.

Many thanks

Phil

diterex
21-04-2008, 07:47 PM
I have a mogul and it seems to work flawlessly. I was able to broadcast two separate feeds with gps.

Mike1002
21-04-2008, 08:23 PM
Does this software work with WiFi, and cache the images & GPS coordinates, for upload at a later date?
I dont have an unliminated data plan, and uploading multiple images would require me to take out a loan :)

Cheers, Mike.

EDIT:
I've just gave this a try with WiFi, and it seems to work well.
GPS shows me moving from my office to my lounge, very freaky, very accurate :)

Just the question about the cache left.
I guess since it does "broadcasting" then it probably cant (yet?) cache the video and GPS data?
Cheers, Mike.

Phil Bishop
22-04-2008, 12:21 PM
Does this software work with WiFi, and cache the images & GPS coordinates, for upload at a later date?
I dont have an unliminated data plan, and uploading multiple images would require me to take out a loan :)

Cheers, Mike.

EDIT:
I've just gave this a try with WiFi, and it seems to work well.
GPS shows me moving from my office to my lounge, very freaky, very accurate :)

Just the question about the cache left.
I guess since it does "broadcasting" then it probably cant (yet?) cache the video and GPS data?
Cheers, Mike.

Since I posted lot's of people have emailed asking for a cache then upload option along with the ability to be able to disable the speed tracking :)

I've been working these today along with several other feature requests and hope to have a new build available sometime tomorrow with these updates in.

diterex
22-04-2008, 03:32 PM
would there be a way to lock the screen while broadcasting?

shogunmark
22-04-2008, 03:51 PM
would there be a way to lock the screen while broadcasting?

Lock the screen how? You can always map a button to the phone lock.

Hey phil, any chance you can do an overlay and display speed somewhere on the screen?

WildSioux
22-04-2008, 06:19 PM
I am unable to add AOL buddies. I have tried to add a few buddies, even my own. But every time it says that the name does not exist. Anyone know why???

unc-newbie
22-04-2008, 07:02 PM
hey phill this program looks very promising but im trying to try it out but am having difficulties i make it all the way to initializing camera n then it fails on me this is the error msg that comes up maybe u can help me out with this:

A native exception has occurred in
livecam.exe.
Select Quite and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.

ExceptionCode: 0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress: 0x00f115fc
Reading: 0x00000000
Faulting module: ix-cam.dll
Offset: 0x000015fc

at WMCamera.GetCameraResolutions(IntPtr pResolutions, Int32& iResolutionsSize)
at WMCamera.GetAvailableResolutions()
at BroadcasterView.TakePictures()

ne advise ne1 lol :(?!?!?



I am getting the same error when i try to do a broadcast. I am running "[Apr 16] Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19209 Release [User Guide & ChangeLog in Post 2] UPDATED" which has 3.5 installed already. I tried re-installing netcf 3.5 and i get an error about memory and closing applications, to restart phone and try to re-install. I tried that and got the same exact error. So i re-flashed with Dutty's rom, as listed above, but tried installing netcf from the get go and got the same exact error. Anyone have any ideas???

Mike1002
22-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Would it also be possible to have an option to enable the flash?
The camera flash light on my device is only half decent, but having it on would be a great option.

Phil Bishop
22-04-2008, 08:51 PM
I am unable to add AOL buddies. I have tried to add a few buddies, even my own. But every time it says that the name does not exist. Anyone know why???

Sorry, the software isn't linked in to other IM systems at the moment. Only other Live Media users can access your broadcasts, because they need the Live Media client to be able to see what you are broadcasting.
HTH

Phil

Phil Bishop
22-04-2008, 09:13 PM
would there be a way to lock the screen while broadcasting?

If you mean - stop the screen from going to sleep when broadcasting?

Then yes I am looking into a solution for that for handsets that don't stay alive while the camera is active.

dschoenike
22-04-2008, 09:41 PM
greetings phil. very nice program. its working great on my sprint mogul.

WildSioux
22-04-2008, 10:31 PM
Sorry, the software isn't linked in to other IM systems at the moment. Only other Live Media users can access your broadcasts, because they need the Live Media client to be able to see what you are broadcasting.
HTH

Phil

Hi Phil,

Yeah, shortly after posting that question I messed around with it a little bit and made a test name. Everything is working great now.

Now, anyway of making the feed fullscreen on computer?

Phil Bishop
23-04-2008, 03:35 PM
There is now an updated version available, with some of your feature requests in.

Record Mode
Allows you record your broadcasts with GPS offline and upload them later.

On the Broadcaster's setting screen there is a new item "Live broadcast" - tap/select and the Broadcast menu option changes to Record.

If you have a storage card, then the files are saved to the livemedia folder, otherwise under \\appData\livemedia.

On the website, login and under My Broadcasts is a new link to upload your broadcasts.

Please note this is only applicable for GPS enabled broadcasts.

Disable sending speed data
On the GPS enable/disable screen there is a new menu item called "Include speed" uncheck so speed data is not recorded.

Check for updates
From the main menu this can now be used to check for and download furture version updates.

Download link
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.5.2.cab

Mike1002
23-04-2008, 06:36 PM
I can't seem to launch the program unless it can detect a working connection.
Dont know if this is meant or not :)
(Using the newly posted version)

Cheers, Mike.

If i connect with wifi, and then select record instead of broadcast, the camera wont initialize, it just stays on that splach screen, with the text "initializing camera" at the bottom, but it works with broadcast just fine.

dschoenike
23-04-2008, 07:50 PM
my apologies if this is a stupid question. But when installing todays updated version, does the previous version need to be uninstalled first? or is that not necessary? thanks, dschoenike

Mike1002
23-04-2008, 09:03 PM
It should tell you that you need to remove the older version first before it can continue, itll then uninstall it for you, and install the new version :)

Mike.

dasilva333
24-04-2008, 04:06 AM
So lets see
GPS via Bluetooth OR intergrated GPS
Camera Unit (video processing)
Cellular Adapter (3g/2g)
Display Screen

wow i am totally going to try that tommorow that sounds interesting huge battery drain having all that activated but its a great very creative way to use all the technology in your phone
Major kudos specialy considering its free but wow what a combination of technology
All that is missing is the use of infrared somehow and WiFi to 'map' the AP spots found (similar to wififofum) thatd be overkill excessive though you don't really have to add that feature.

Phil Bishop
24-04-2008, 09:42 AM
I can't seem to launch the program unless it can detect a working connection.
Dont know if this is meant or not :)
(Using the newly posted version)

Cheers, Mike.

If i connect with wifi, and then select record instead of broadcast, the camera wont initialize, it just stays on that splach screen, with the text "initializing camera" at the bottom, but it works with broadcast just fine.

That's correct the app does need an interent connection to login on start-up.

I think the problem you had with the record option is that if you have GPS selected as ON but it actually wasn't on, then an error message that should have been displayed wasn't making it on to the screen.

The record option is only available with active GPS.

Please check later on via the "Check for updates" option for a fix to this :)

Mike1002
24-04-2008, 11:02 AM
But isnt the advantage of beingable to cache&record video and GPS is that you wouldnt need an internet connection?

The connection fee for my PAYG plan is about 15p, and then i get charged about 7p for each 10kb.

Id like to see an option to purely record,with no net connection needed, no option to see any public cams or anything, just to record.

Even a command line shortcut to go straight to the broadcast screen (with no need for internet).

Hope you consider this, would be a nice addition to a great bit of software.

Mike.

Or would an alternate solution (to my internet charges)be to, login with wifi at home, login to the application, then turn wifi off, and broadcast.

Phil Bishop
24-04-2008, 11:27 AM
But isnt the advantage of beingable to cache&record video and GPS is that you wouldnt need an internet connection?

The connection fee for my PAYG plan is about 15p, and then i get charged about 7p for each 10kb.

Id like to see an option to purely record,with no net connection needed, no option to see any public cams or anything, just to record.

Even a command line shortcut to go straight to the broadcast screen (with no need for internet).

Hope you consider this, would be a nice addition to a great bit of software.

Mike.

Or would an alternate solution (to my internet charges)be to, login with wifi at home, login to the application, then turn wifi off, and broadcast.

Thanks Mike,

Sounds like the solution might be a separate small app just for offline recording. If you can mail me via the contacts form on the website (http://www.ix-m.com/Contact.aspx?type=7), then
I'll see if I can knock up a prototype for you to test out first.

dschoenike
24-04-2008, 03:49 PM
This app is very cool. Im a driver for a small manufacturing company. Today is bring your child to work day, but unfortunately my daughter is home sick. Well thanks to live media, my daughter is in bed watching parts of my work day on her laptop. Very cool.

Phil Bishop
27-04-2008, 11:11 AM
This update also installs a separate application called "Live Media Recorder" which can be used to record your video/gps offline, view back and then later when connected up you can upload your recordings to the website.

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.5.7.cab

Or use the "Check for updates" option in Live Media.

Thanks to Mike1002 and Shogunmark for helping with the early testing.

Imperium
11-05-2008, 06:13 PM
*bump*

how is progress going?

what i noticed and find very dissapointing is that if i broadcast a session while driving, and watch it later via your site, that GPS is delayed with the pictures taken on the left hand of the site,

its like i pass a roundabout and 10-12 seconds later the gps on the map passes the roundabout.. can you fix this?

shogunmark
12-05-2008, 05:17 AM
*bump*

how is progress going?

what i noticed and find very dissapointing is that if i broadcast a session while driving, and watch it later via your site, that GPS is delayed with the pictures taken on the left hand of the site,

its like i pass a roundabout and 10-12 seconds later the gps on the map passes the roundabout.. can you fix this?

Does it have the same affect if you record as opposed to a live broadcast? And this could be also because of how often the gps updates, maybe something phil can look in to!

shogunmark
12-05-2008, 05:19 AM
I would like to see some of the others live in action when i catch them, so what i would like to is ask anyone out there beta testing to add me to your friends list, then you can also check out my driving :D

my id on there is shogunmark69

and if anyone is running a kaiser/tytnII/Tilt then i am in the process of cooking a rom with this integrated, if anyone is interested in testing that pm me directly!

Phil Bishop
12-05-2008, 07:29 AM
*bump*

how is progress going?

what i noticed and find very dissapointing is that if i broadcast a session while driving, and watch it later via your site, that GPS is delayed with the pictures taken on the left hand of the site,

its like i pass a roundabout and 10-12 seconds later the gps on the map passes the roundabout.. can you fix this?

Many thanks for the feedback - I'll take a look into this to see if the problem is in the capture or just on playback.

Phil Bishop
12-05-2008, 11:17 AM
I've done a few test runs this morning and what I've found is that uploaded (offline) recordings playback pretty much in sync, but captured live broadcasts have ~10 second + GPS sync delay.

So I've made some adjustments to the playback on the website to reflect this and the published broadcasts on the main page all seem to be much better in sync now -- please let me know if this also fixes things for your private broadcasts.

One side-effect of these changes means that your old uploaded recordings now need to be flagged as recordings (previously the system didn't differentiate between the 2 types) You can do this via the edit option or upload them again to automatically flag them.

Imperium
12-05-2008, 11:40 AM
The broadcasts are now pretty much in sync with gps, very well done! It's still slightly off by 0.5-1.0 second but thats just small details and gps dependent i suppose. What does keep bugging me though, is the fact that the route isnt completely finished. It stops like 300 meters before my final destination. while the photos are about 250 meters away from destination.

will continue to play with it! :)

*edit*

Found another "bug"?

Every 5 frames a couple of frames are dropped upon playback or might even with the upload, which results in situations like me driving towards a junction and at the 6th frame i already passed the junction without a frame of me passing it. I hope you understand what i mean.
I use a 3.6mbit HSDPA connection for the broadcast.

You can see it very well with this public broadcast on your site:
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=shogunmark69_3768_1604200 8092300

Every 5 frames you "shoot" forward.

*edit2*

And i just noticed a small typo on your site.

"All new recordings will autmatically be flagged."

should be "All new recordings will automatically be flagged."

Phil Bishop
12-05-2008, 01:37 PM
I think both the above relate to the upstream buffering on the device, something I've been working on recently and hope to have a new build ready soon to address the frame drops.

FYI: When you click "Back" whilst broadcasting there will still be data in the buffers that hasn't been flushed yet, that's why (I think) your broadcasts appear to terminate early as the connection gets dropped when you stop your broadcast.

Thanks, & good to hear that the web sync is now much better :)

Imperium
12-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Ok, sweet. What can i do about the "flush" problem? or nothing yet?

and i just had this idea, do with it whatever you want.
What about an offline recorder that will record video stream opposed to shooting pictures? i realize the size will be too big for the server, so how about a program to run it on your pc? so it will be a smooth playback with sound and with smooth gps rendering?
this would be PERFECT for driving trips and especially if me and my mates are going to drive/cross trough the woods and forests with our vehicles!

or isnt this realistic?

Phil Bishop
12-05-2008, 05:06 PM
Ok, sweet. What can i do about the "flush" problem? or nothing yet?


At the moment the solution for Live broadcasts is to wait say 10 seconds on reaching your destination, before stopping the broadcast. That will allow time for the buffers to flush before the connection is dropped. If you are in record mode (rather than Live) then this should happen automatically.

Imperium
12-05-2008, 06:50 PM
Okay, i was wondering though, is it possible to increase the amount of GPS fix uploads? so that the gps trail would be more accurate?

And i just wanted to say that i find your support very quick and good :)

Videonut
12-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Very cool program. I'm running on a CDMA network in Canada and it's EVDO or 1X right now with revA in the near future.
I'll try it out on the road this week and see how it goes.
I did try it out a bit at home, and I was wondering other than my desktop, who is gps.sys that I'm broadcasting to?

Videonut
12-05-2008, 11:12 PM
I would like to see some of the others live in action when i catch them, so what i would like to is ask anyone out there beta testing to add me to your friends list, then you can also check out my driving :D

my id on there is shogunmark69

and if anyone is running a kaiser/tytnII/Tilt then i am in the process of cooking a rom with this integrated, if anyone is interested in testing that pm me directly!

Hey shogunmark... I added you to my buddies in the broadcast section.
I'm going to be giving the program a test drive around Northern Ontario Canada on Wednesday May 14th.
Hook up if you want. I'm jamie@blackadar

Videonut
12-05-2008, 11:16 PM
This update also installs a separate application called "Live Media Recorder" which can be used to record your video/gps offline, view back and then later when connected up you can upload your recordings to the website.

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.5.7.cab

Or use the "Check for updates" option in Live Media.

Thanks to Mike1002 and Shogunmark for helping with the early testing.

Hi Phil
Is it possible to keep the 1st post upto date when you make a change? I thought the program was broken when I 1st tried it but I found out I downloaded direct from ix-m.com and it was a different version that didn't even have a gps option in the broadcast menu.
Again, very cool program.....
Thanks
jamie@blackadar

shogunmark
13-05-2008, 08:29 AM
Very cool program. I'm running on a CDMA network in Canada and it's EVDO or 1X right now with revA in the near future.
I'll try it out on the road this week and see how it goes.
I did try it out a bit at home, and I was wondering other than my desktop, who is gps.sys that I'm broadcasting to?

thats the internet :D

shogunmark
13-05-2008, 08:29 AM
Phil, any chances of getting support for the front camera yet? There is a small need for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390918

Phil Bishop
13-05-2008, 09:55 AM
Hi Phil
Is it possible to keep the 1st post upto date when you make a change? I thought the program was broken when I 1st tried it but I found out I downloaded direct from ix-m.com and it was a different version that didn't even have a gps option in the broadcast menu.
Again, very cool program.....
Thanks
jamie@blackadar

Cheers, just done that and will keep it up to date from now on :)

Phil Bishop
13-05-2008, 10:34 AM
Phil, any chances of getting support for the front camera yet? There is a small need for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390918

I've had a few emails about this too.

As I understand it this then becomes device specific (please correct me if I'm wrong), I also believe that there is an HTC code library and examples out there somewhere, but previously I've had no luck tracking these down.

So if anybody knows where I can get my hands on them, I'd be more than happy to have a crack at doing this :)

decimusmaximus7
13-05-2008, 10:46 AM
Is there a way someone can view my broadcast from the website?

Phil Bishop
13-05-2008, 11:08 AM
Is there a way someone can view my broadcast from the website?

For the beta, it works as follows.

1. By default all users are private broadcasters, so only you (or people you give your login details too) can see when you are broadcasting.
2. If you go public, the other Live Media GPS users can login on the website and if you are broadcasting Live, then they will be able to see you online. Also when public all Live Media users can see you on their mobiles.
3. A third option is to add other Live Media users to your Buddy Access Control List. Those users when logged in will also be able to see you online and watch what you are broadcasting.

Please note: all captured broadcasts are private (only you can see them) unless you publish them.

Hope that helps?

unc-newbie
13-05-2008, 02:52 PM
Any resolution to this error:

A native exception has occurred in
livecam.exe.
Select Quite and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.

ExceptionCode: 0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress: 0x00df15fc
Reading: 0x00000000
Faulting module: ix-cam.dll
Offset: 0x000015fc

at WMCamera.GetCameraResolutions(IntPtr pResolutions, Int32& iResolutionsSize)
at WMCamera.GetAvailableResolutions()
at BroadcasterView.TakePictures()

csrow
13-05-2008, 04:44 PM
It seems to work ok on my Sprint Mogul. However, the live public broadcast is only viewable after the broadcasting is finished.

While I am broadcasting, the recording header is shown but nothing shows up. So, is it a true 'live' broadcast or is it just recorded first on the server then it's available for viewing?

Also, is there anyway to broadcast privately to your own account. Right now, it's asking for a buddy ACL. So, I would have to create a second account to be added as a 'buddy' just to try a private broadcast.

Phil Bishop
13-05-2008, 05:10 PM
It seems to work ok on my Sprint Mogul. However, the live public broadcast is only viewable after the broadcasting is finished.

While I am broadcasting, the recording header is shown but nothing shows up. So, is it a true 'live' broadcast or is it just recorded first on the server then it's available for viewing?

Also, is there anyway to broadcast privately to your own account. Right now, it's asking for a buddy ACL. So, I would have to create a second account to be added as a 'buddy' just to try a private broadcast.

Sorry if it's a bit confusing on the beta website.

Yes it is live, but for the purposes of the GPS beta, it is also recorded so you can play it back later.

After logging in, click the link at the bottom left "View public site", which takes you back to the main page.

Here you will see your username appear under "Live Broadcasters" when you start to broadcast - there will be a slight delay before this appears.

Also if any public GPS broadcasters are online, they will be listed too.

Click the link to connect to the live broadcast.

You can also use the PC desktop application for Live Media (from www.ix-m.com) to see your private live broadcasts, but there's no GPS mapping and nothing is recorded.

csrow
13-05-2008, 06:58 PM
Phil,

Live broadcasting works fine when viewing from the public side but if I try to access my own public broadcast from my private side, nothing shows up (invalid GPS data).

Besides using the windows application, is there any way I can access my private broadcast from the web site?

If I want to share a broadcast with few friends, I don't mind giving out my userID and password to them but it looks like I won't be able to broadcast privately to my account. (on the web).

Phil Bishop
13-05-2008, 07:27 PM
Phil,

Live broadcasting works fine when viewing from the public side but if I try to access my own public broadcast from my private side, nothing shows up (invalid GPS data).

Besides using the windows application, is there any way I can access my private broadcast from the web site?

If I want to share a broadcast with few friends, I don't mind giving out my userID and password to them but it looks like I won't be able to broadcast privately to my account. (on the web).

The "Invalid GPS Data" message is sometimes shown if the page doesn't refresh correctly after you complete a broadcast -- could you try closing your web browser and logging back to see if this fixes this?

BTW: if you use the "email a link" option to somebody, they can access that broadcast without having to login.

Imperium
13-05-2008, 10:20 PM
The "Invalid GPS Data" message is sometimes shown if the page doesn't refresh correctly after you complete a broadcast -- could you try closing your web browser and logging back to see if this fixes this?


BTW: if you use the "email a link" option to somebody, they can access that broadcast without having to login.


not quite true.. the link mailed is the same in the adress bar. which will result in
in:

Inca X | Home page

Sorry, unable to complete your request at this time, please try again later.

The Inca X Website has recently undergone an upgrade, so some pages/files are now in different locations.
Please nagivate using the new website to find the content that you are looking for.


a browser without the login cookie (or other pc)

Phil Bishop
14-05-2008, 07:57 AM
not quite true.. the link mailed is the same in the adress bar. which will result in
in:

a browser without the login cookie (or other pc)


Thanks...

Think I've found the problem, should work now (somebody mailed me to say that the above happened if no description was given to the broadcast [was a bug])

Imperium
14-05-2008, 06:52 PM
Yup works perfectly now :)

Already happen to found the solution for the frameskipping?

Phil Bishop
14-05-2008, 09:26 PM
Already happen to found the solution for the frameskipping?

This is still work in progress and appears to be related to a combination of camera resolution (bytes/frame), the available bandwidth your mobile can actually "get its hands on" and whether the internet connection can be kept alive or not.

At the moment, if the stream buffer fills up (on your mobile) before the contents can be sent "upstream" then frames start getting pulled off the front of the queue (dropped frames).

shogunmark and I have been experimenting with the buffering for a while, but yet to find a balanced solution.

The latest build I uploaded yesterday (1.5.8) has some minor improvements, but doesn't resolve this issue yet.

csrow
15-05-2008, 02:57 AM
What would be nice for my situation is a semi-public broadcast where a public broadcast is accessed with a password.

So, from the mobile device, it would ask for a password before starting a semi-public casting. Then anyone with a proper password will be able to access the broadcast from the web.

miffymiffy
15-05-2008, 04:12 AM
Is there something i am missing, I am not able to get the bluetooth GPS reciever to respond to this application. Is anyone able to use a bluetooth GPS reciever successfully with this app?

amsatnetg
15-05-2008, 04:17 AM
Hey great idea, I am trying it out on a wizard, and I immediatelely get an error storing files as soon as i go to record. Gps seems to be working.

kwill
15-05-2008, 04:42 AM
hey!! just wanted to say great progam and great job in developing it. i will find it very cool and useful :) one question i do have is.........when you're broadcasting publicly is it available to anyone that logs into their account? i ask because its the only way i can broadcast live as i dont have anyone to add as a buddy:(:) i only ask as is shows all logged in users when you log in and want to view a live broadcast

amsatnetg
15-05-2008, 06:19 AM
Sorry I couldn't post this earlier as I was driving. Error notification that pops up on the screen is in this screenshot. What do you think is causing the problem? It happens right after I press record, and then the message pops up on the screen itself in the background.

This is on a G3 Wizard 8125 running WM 6.1 very closely based on TNT 19209 by It's Right.

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 06:48 AM
What would be nice for my situation is a semi-public broadcast where a public broadcast is accessed with a password.

So, from the mobile device, it would ask for a password before starting a semi-public casting. Then anyone with a proper password will be able to access the broadcast from the web.

Nice idea, thanks.

To make sure I fully understand - is this what you mean and applies to live broadcasting.

1. You create a "pass key" on your mobile, for example 12345, which could be stored on the device and can be changed at any time.
2. You select semi-public & start broadcasting
3. You then appear as online on the website (without anybody having to login)
4. When the link is clicked the user is prompted for your "pass key" to be able to view your broadcast.

Let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 07:00 AM
Is there something i am missing, I am not able to get the bluetooth GPS reciever to respond to this application. Is anyone able to use a bluetooth GPS reciever successfully with this app?

Yes, I've tested with a Holux external BT GPS receiver on a Hermes and HTC S710.

Here's the setup I used on the hermes via Settings/Connections/Bluetooth

1. Select the device on the bluetooth screen
2. Select Serial Port (Services to be used by this device)
3. Save
4. On the Bluetooth screen select the COM ports tab
5. Select new outgoing port & use the default (was COM 0 on mine)

Hope this helps?

If it doesn't work, can you post what make/model your BT receiver is please as somebody else might be able to help.

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 08:03 AM
hey!! just wanted to say great progam and great job in developing it. i will find it very cool and useful :) one question i do have is.........when you're broadcasting publicly is it available to anyone that logs into their account? i ask because its the only way i can broadcast live as i dont have anyone to add as a buddy:(:) i only ask as is shows all logged in users when you log in and want to view a live broadcast

Thanks.

Yes, when you broadcast publically all Live Media users can select to see your broadcast from other mobiles or the desktop app. But, only users that login via the beta website can see the GPS map.

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 08:08 AM
Sorry I couldn't post this earlier as I was driving. Error notification that pops up on the screen is in this screenshot. What do you think is causing the problem? It happens right after I press record, and then the message pops up on the screen itself in the background.

This is on a G3 Wizard 8125 running WM 6.1 very closely based on TNT 19209 by It's Right.

My guess is that the app has got the path to the storage card wrong or detected a storage card when one isn't there. Do you have a storage card shown as "storage card" under My Device in File Explorer?

miffymiffy
15-05-2008, 08:08 AM
Yes, I've tested with a Holux external BT GPS receiver on a Hermes and HTC S710.

Here's the setup I used on the hermes via Settings/Connections/Bluetooth

1. Select the device on the bluetooth screen
2. Select Serial Port (Services to be used by this device)
3. Save
4. On the Bluetooth screen select the COM ports tab
5. Select new outgoing port & use the default (was COM 0 on mine)

Hope this helps?

If it doesn't work, can you post what make/model your BT receiver is please as somebody else might be able to help.

I have two of them, one is a cheap ebay unbranded one, and the other is a GlobalTop TouchGPS.
I have also tried this with Franson GPSGate without any luck. I have also reset and hard reset my device to no avail.

I used the settings that you described but no luck with them.
How long did it take to get a signal from the BT receiver? I have had it sitting there for over 10 minutes and it still didnt get any data from it.
When i closed it and opened TomTom it picked it up straight away.

amsatnetg
15-05-2008, 08:34 AM
My guess is that the app has got the path to the storage card wrong or detected a storage card when one isn't there. Do you have a storage card shown as "storage card" under My Device in File Explorer?

Yes I do have a storage card shown as storage card, but do you see the error in the screen behind the popup? This is the initial error that stops the recorder from running. It is only saying that it is saving it to the storage card on the popup. It only records for like .00001/tenth of a second then the error appears then the popup. It is all very quick. Has anyone else with a wizard tried this program???

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 08:39 AM
I have two of them, one is a cheap ebay unbranded one, and the other is a GlobalTop TouchGPS.
I have also tried this with Franson GPSGate without any luck. I have also reset and hard reset my device to no avail.

I used the settings that you described but no luck with them.
How long did it take to get a signal from the BT receiver? I have had it sitting there for over 10 minutes and it still didnt get any data from it.
When i closed it and opened TomTom it picked it up straight away.

On both the phones I tested on the GPS comes up within a couple of seconds, so there must be something else going wrong.

The TyTn Hermes I tested on has the HTC WM6pro ROM on it, don't know if that makes any difference?

If it's hardware/ROM related (could be my code), is there anybody else out there who could try and help resolve this one?

Thanks

miffymiffy
15-05-2008, 08:42 AM
On both the phones I tested on the GPS comes up within a couple of seconds, so there must be something else going wrong.

The TyTn Hermes I tested on has the HTC WM6pro ROM on it, don't know if that makes any difference?

If it's hardware/ROM related (could be my code), is there anybody else out there who could try and help resolve this one?

Thanks

I am currently running WM6.1. I have a couple of hundred roms so ill chose one of the older WM6 roms and ill see if that has any effect.


After flashing a WM6 rom, still no love... I guess it has to do with the GPS receiver i am using.

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 09:11 AM
Yes I do have a storage card shown as storage card, but do you see the error in the screen behind the popup? This is the initial error that stops the recorder from running. It is only saying that it is saving it to the storage card on the popup. It only records for like .00001/tenth of a second then the error appears then the popup. It is all very quick. Has anyone else with a wizard tried this program???

It's a bug, just tracked it down in the debugger.

I'll upload a new build after doing some more testing.

Many thanks for highlighting the problem.

amsatnetg
15-05-2008, 09:40 AM
It's a bug, just tracked it down in the debugger.

I'll upload a new build after doing some more testing.

Many thanks for highlighting the problem.

Awesome! Glad that i could help. I will look forward to a new build. I really like the concept.

I am a senior member!!! Cool!

Phil Bishop
15-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Awesome! Glad that i could help. I will look forward to a new build. I really like the concept.

I am a senior member!!! Cool!

Thanks.

New build ready, which should fix things, but if it doesn't it will popup a message box with a debug message in, which will be more meaningful to me, than to you :)

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.0.cab

or use Check for updates from the Live Media app.

kwill
15-05-2008, 05:40 PM
Thanks.

Yes, when you broadcast publically all Live Media users can select to see your broadcast from other mobiles or the desktop app. But, only users that login via the beta website can see the GPS map.

ok makes sense. thanks much!

kwill
15-05-2008, 10:03 PM
so, to make sure i totally understand. can the live video stream function still be used without a gps fix? and also, for a person to view my live stream they need to go to the beta site and use my login/pass and go to view public broadcasters or have the software installed?

csrow
16-05-2008, 03:30 AM
Nice idea, thanks.

To make sure I fully understand - is this what you mean and applies to live broadcasting.

1. You create a "pass key" on your mobile, for example 12345, which could be stored on the device and can be changed at any time.
2. You select semi-public & start broadcasting
3. You then appear as online on the website (without anybody having to login)
4. When the link is clicked the user is prompted for your "pass key" to be able to view your broadcast.

Let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Yes, that's exactly what I am looking for. Thanks for the great program. I just wish the connection bandwidth was high enough to handle to continuous casting without dropping frames.

I intent to try broadcasting live from a race car next time I am on a track.

ppcnoore
16-05-2008, 06:08 AM
Everything was working fine updated to newest ppckitchen running 5060 now I get this.

Sprint mogul

http://www.noore.net/Screen.bmp

Phil Bishop
16-05-2008, 06:42 AM
so, to make sure i totally understand. can the live video stream function still be used without a gps fix? and also, for a person to view my live stream they need to go to the beta site and use my login/pass and go to view public broadcasters or have the software installed?

If GPS is not enabled (Off) on the broadcaster screen, you can still broadcast, but will not be visible on the beta site, because the site if for GPS broadcasts only.

However, other mobile users and people with the Live Media desktop app (free from www.ix-m.com) will be able to see your broadcasts depending on your public/private status.

It's also worth mentioning that

1. Only GPS broadcasts are stored by the system, all other broadcasts are live.

2. Any Live Media user can login to the beta site and view live public GPS broadcasts or broadcasts from users that have added them to their buddy ACL.

3. I'm also going to take a look at the suggest by scrow for semi-public broadcasts, which might simplify things for web access.

Hope this helps?

Phil Bishop
16-05-2008, 06:47 AM
Everything was working fine updated to newest ppckitchen running 5060 now I get this.

Sprint mogul

http://www.noore.net/Screen.bmp

The first time this one came up shogunmark commented that this can be caused if the .NET installation is not cooked correctly.

Here's a link to that post

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2132823&postcount=5

ppcnoore
16-05-2008, 08:54 AM
Tryed rebuilding a few times and reflashing and still getting the error. Re-installed .net and still no go. I will rebuild the rom with some diffrent options see what happens.

shogunmark
16-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Tryed rebuilding a few times and reflashing and still getting the error. Re-installed .net and still no go. I will rebuild the rom with some diffrent options see what happens.

if you try to install .net from a cab will it install properly? or does it go to step 3 and ultimately fail?

ppcnoore
16-05-2008, 05:37 PM
After several rebuilds , reinstalls of .netcf and .net 3.5 the error will not go away. But i have gotten a new error after reinstalling .net

http://www.noore.net/Screen2.bmp

I also talked to a few people over at another place and they said it was the program itself not .net or the rom.
So I am open to all suggestions at this point please.

shogunmark
16-05-2008, 05:44 PM
After several rebuilds , reinstalls of .netcf and .net 3.5 the error will not go away. But i have gotten a new error after reinstalling .net

http://www.noore.net/Screen2.bmp

I also talked to a few people over at another place and they said it was the program itself not .net or the rom.
So I am open to all suggestions at this point please.

and your trying this on a cooked rom correct? if so then try to flash an official rom, install netcf then the app to see if you can duplicate the error..

ppcnoore
16-05-2008, 07:20 PM
With the help from IRC I was able to get 3.49 sprint rom stable and cooked in some of my own stuff using ppckitchen and its up and working again. I will be broadcasting some videos very soon now. Thanks for the help.

amsatnetg
17-05-2008, 09:07 AM
I will try it out now since you have rebuilt and let you know how it is on wizard. peace

kwill
17-05-2008, 09:19 PM
If GPS is not enabled (Off) on the broadcaster screen, you can still broadcast, but will not be visible on the beta site, because the site if for GPS broadcasts only.

However, other mobile users and people with the Live Media desktop app (free from www.ix-m.com) will be able to see your broadcasts depending on your public/private status.

It's also worth mentioning that

1. Only GPS broadcasts are stored by the system, all other broadcasts are live.

2. Any Live Media user can login to the beta site and view live public GPS broadcasts or broadcasts from users that have added them to their buddy ACL.

3. I'm also going to take a look at the suggest by scrow for semi-public broadcasts, which might simplify things for web access.

Hope this helps?

ok, that clears up things alot and thanks for taking the time to explain it:) i have to agree with the above suggestion. it would be great to have an option for users to have to input the passcode, therefore making the broadcast semi-public.

kwill
17-05-2008, 09:51 PM
ok, so i downloaded the desktop app just to test a broadcast without gps. i created a user name and password different from the device. and accepted my device as a user on the desktop app. i also added the desktop user name as a buddy cam on the device. but, when i go into the device it says that the username for the desktop app is not logged on. i restarted both programs and still no luck. am i doing something wrong?

av8rdude
17-05-2008, 10:52 PM
It would be nice to be able to send a broadcast from the phone and when you finish send a link to friends from the phone to the broadcast. I can't find a way to send a specific link from the phone.
Scott

Phil Bishop
18-05-2008, 11:39 AM
ok, so i downloaded the desktop app just to test a broadcast without gps. i created a user name and password different from the device. and accepted my device as a user on the desktop app. i also added the desktop user name as a buddy cam on the device. but, when i go into the device it says that the username for the desktop app is not logged on. i restarted both programs and still no luck. am i doing something wrong?

Below are some detailed instructions for using the desktop app

1. First add your PC user name to the Buddy ACL on your mobile
2. On the desktop app, click the Live Media tab, then select "Private" from the dropdown list, next click the search toolbar icon -- your mobile user name should now appear, but in an offline state (grey icon)
3. Start to broadcast from your mobile
4. Hit the search button again on the desktop app -- the icon should now be active (you are broadcasting on your mobile)
5. Double click the icon that represents your mobile, this will connect to your mobile.
6. Within a few seconds the mobile app will show "broadcasting 1 connection" then after about 5 seconds you should start to see what you are broadcasting on the desktop app -- there's usually around a 5 second delay.

Hope this helps?

Phil Bishop
18-05-2008, 11:53 AM
It would be nice to be able to send a broadcast from the phone and when you finish send a link to friends from the phone to the broadcast. I can't find a way to send a specific link from the phone.
Scott

Thanks Scott, at the moment that can only be done from the website, but is an excellent idea! and also fits in nicely with a different feature request, which is to notify people (of your choice) when you start a live broadcast.

I am currently compiling a change request list, and I will add your idea to it.

If anybody else would like to request new features, please post them either here or via the contacts form on the website before the 24th May 2008 and I will do my best to include them in the next relase.

Many thanks

Geo2000
18-05-2008, 12:36 PM
Hi. How can I get to work by proxy? Has something in the menu? Can be done to work through wap? Thank

Phil Bishop
18-05-2008, 12:45 PM
Hi. How can I get to work by proxy? Has something in the menu? Can be done to work through wap? Thank

Sorry, I don't understand your question, could you provide some more details please? Is your question related to getting the GPS location or a general question about Internet connectivity?

Geo2000
20-05-2008, 12:44 PM
Sorry, I don't understand your question, could you provide some more details please? Is your question related to getting the GPS location or a general question about Internet connectivity?


My question was whether this application can use the Internet as setting the proxy and port

Phil Bishop
20-05-2008, 01:40 PM
My question was whether this application can use the Internet as setting the proxy and port

There are currently no explicity settings in the application to use a proxy server to connect to the net, if that is what you mean?

If you are connecting over a GPRS/3G type connection, then I would expect the application to use your device/carrier settings to connect. Likewise over a WIFI connection.

However, if this doesn't work for you an you need to enter a specific proxy server and port to establish Internet connections, then please let me know so I can take a look at how best to add those connectivity options to the application.

Many thanks

diterex
21-05-2008, 05:59 PM
I whipped up this with an extra case I found on Ebay and some extra stainless I had laying around the shop. I think that this application will be pretty nice when I get to use it after work today.

Phil Bishop
21-05-2008, 06:15 PM
I whipped up this with an extra case I found on Ebay and some extra stainless I had laying around the shop. I think that this application will be pretty nice when I get to use it after work today.

Awesome!

Looking forward to seeing your next broadcast :)

shogunmark
21-05-2008, 08:06 PM
My question was whether this application can use the Internet as setting the proxy and port

are you asking if it will work through your cell providers proxy?

diterex
22-05-2008, 02:27 PM
Some reason I could not get it to record longer than 6mins or so, and then it started over again with a new broadcast. I hit broadcast right before I left the gas station and I stopped riding about 30mins after the end of the second broadcast. Any suggestions?

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214 018
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214 633

Phil Bishop
22-05-2008, 03:03 PM
Some reason I could not get it to record longer than 6mins or so, and then it started over again with a new broadcast. I hit broadcast right before I left the gas station and I stopped riding about 30mins after the end of the second broadcast. Any suggestions?

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214 018
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/PlayBroadcast.aspx?ixgps=diterex_15130_21052008214 633

Thanks - great broadcasts, looks like your kit worked a treat!

If this was a Live broadcast, then this can happen if the Internet connection gets dropped during the broadcast. The application then tries to reconnect as soon as it can get hold of a new Internet connection, but as you have discovered, this then becomes a new broadcast captured by the system.

To do long recordings, rather than Live broadcasts, it's probably better to use the Recorder application instead, because this does all the capture on the device (without an Internet connection) and when finished you can view it back before uploading the recorded broadcast to the website.

Hope this helps to explain things?

av8rdude
22-05-2008, 03:44 PM
I've found that if you force your phones data connection to stay active you can make a single long recording.
With my verizon phone I do this by enabling the wireless sync software in the push mode. Then the phone never disconnects from the data connection. This also kills the battery in one day if you leave it in push mode.
Scott

shogunmark
22-05-2008, 04:17 PM
I've found that if you force your phones data connection to stay active you can make a single long recording.
With my verizon phone I do this by enabling the wireless sync software in the push mode. Then the phone never disconnects from the data connection. This also kills the battery in one day if you leave it in push mode.
Scott

well kinda...
Here is how it works, as long as the phone see's active data it wont kill the connection automatically, which is why when you leave it on push mode it constantly stays active. It has a "heartbeat" that it sends out at timed intervals that keeps the connection active.

So your phone SHOULDNT be closing the data connection if you are actively streaming with this app or browsing the web, etc.

Phil Bishop
25-05-2008, 05:41 PM
I whipped up this with an extra case I found on Ebay and some extra stainless I had laying around the shop. I think that this application will be pretty nice when I get to use it after work today.

We liked your photos and broadcast so much, I have added them to our video collection on YouTube.

Here's a list of current videos based on published broadcasts on the beta website.

Diterex:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AWEFrNi3cs

Shogunmark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWuHoQV238

PeterLive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfKhAhgnMM4

Many thanks for all your contributions and feedback so far!

agcolella
25-05-2008, 08:26 PM
May I suggest a small improvement: could it be added some sort of "remote control" of the broadcast: for example an SMS could disable/enable the broadcast or another could act on the tracking, or even both.

Thanks a lot

stw303
26-05-2008, 03:03 AM
Hi All,

We have a new version of an application, which is now available on beta and would greatly appreciate it if any of you have time to participate in the trial and provide me with feedback on whether the software works or not on your device.

In simple terms the new version of the application allows you to broadcast both an image stream and GPS data which can be viewed either in real-time or later via the Live Media Web application

Here's a quick video introduction to the software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fpQlqJROrw&rel=0

Device requirements:

Windows Mobile 6, camera and GPS (internal or external via BT)
Windows Mobile 5 + .NET CF v2 (or above) camera and GPS (internal or external via BT)

RECENT UPDATES:

The CAB install now includes a 2nd application, which allows you to record your broadcasts offline and then upload them later.
Fixes to the GPS sync on website playback.
Check for updates added to main application.
Fix to "send email link to friend" on the web
Fix to "Recorder app" error when GPS not explicitly enabled


Download Latest CAB from
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.0.cab
or visit www.ix-m.com/gps-beta from your mobile.

Quick video to show you how to set-up the app on your phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76lzPUwTyHM&rel=0

Website access from your PC to view your broadcasts and published broadcasts
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta

Support and Feedback
Please use the contacts form on the website
http://www.ix-m.com/contact.aspx?type=7

As this is my first posting here, hopefully I've got all the html tags correct and I hope some of you have time to try this out and let me know what you think about the app.

Many thanks

Phil Bishop
Inca X Mobile
Are you planning to support non-HTC Windows mobile phones in the future? I own an Eten Glofiish M800 with WM6.1. The app loads properly, but it can't initialise the front or back camera properly. I do get a picture, but it just looks like analogue TV static.

I'm assuming that this is hardware support issue.

Phil Bishop
26-05-2008, 11:15 AM
May I suggest a small improvement: could it be added some sort of "remote control" of the broadcast: for example an SMS could disable/enable the broadcast or another could act on the tracking, or even both.

Thanks a lot

Excellent idea, I will add it to the list of things to look at during the next round of updates.

Many thanks

Phil Bishop
26-05-2008, 11:36 AM
Are you planning to support non-HTC Windows mobile phones in the future? I own an Eten Glofiish M800 with WM6.1. The app loads properly, but it can't initialise the front or back camera properly. I do get a picture, but it just looks like analogue TV static.

I'm assuming that this is hardware support issue.

Thanks for letting me know about the problem.

If by static you mean the frame rate is really slow, then this seems to be down to combination of the speed of the device and picture quality (size). For example on the HTC 710 (smarphone) it's pretty slow, but on the HTC PPC devices the FPS varies between 2-8 FPS, with the max FPS the software will try to use being 4 ( this is to save on data )

I think we have had some testers on non HTC devices, but haven't had any feedback relating this issue (yet!) which gives me the opportunity to ask the question...

Anybody using the software successfully on non HTC devices?

vscout
27-05-2008, 12:50 PM
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but issue #1, it always says that GPS is not active even though it is. When I click on GPS then it shows my coordinates. Issue #2 is whenever I press broadcast it will initialize my camera. The camera will show up but at the top all it says is "Waiting for connections". I added my computer username to the buddy acl but can't connect. Any suggestions?

Phil Bishop
27-05-2008, 01:15 PM
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but issue #1, it always says that GPS is not active even though it is. When I click on GPS then it shows my coordinates. Issue #2 is whenever I press broadcast it will initialize my camera. The camera will show up but at the top all it says is "Waiting for connections". I added my computer username to the buddy acl but can't connect. Any suggestions?

On the GPS screen which shows your coordinates you need to select "Enable" from the menu. This option is there to allow you to broadcast with GPS enabled or disabled. When enabled the broadcaster's setting screen should show GPS - On. Then when you start to broadcast a user called "gps-sys" will connect automatically - this is the system user that records your broadcast for you.

With issue #2, you need to actively connect from your PC to your mobile - this is explained earlier in this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211285&postcount=89

Hope this helps?

Park City
07-06-2008, 10:26 PM
Hello.

Question. I originally installed the beta from the website and it was version 1.4.x. I found the newest beta 1.6 and installed it but I dont think it updated the 1.4 version. Either way, the program doesnt detect that I have a GPS installed. I am using a Kaiser with Sleuth255 v3.0 installed.

What more information can I provide to troubleshoot this?

This has fantastic potential!!

Park City
07-06-2008, 11:38 PM
Hello.

Question. I originally installed the beta from the website and it was version 1.4.x. I found the newest beta 1.6 and installed it but I dont think it updated the 1.4 version. Either way, the program doesnt detect that I have a GPS installed. I am using a Kaiser with Sleuth255 v3.0 installed.

What more information can I provide to troubleshoot this?

This has fantastic potential!!

Solved my own problem. Downleded .net CF 3.5 and then the newest 1.6 and it works like a dream. This is Fantasic!! Will be using this a bunch and will be updating regularly!!

Phil Bishop
08-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Solved my own problem. Downleded .net CF 3.5 and then the newest 1.6 and it works like a dream. This is Fantasic!! Will be using this a bunch and will be updating regularly!!

Many thanks for letting me know and glad to hear that you like the app :)

dortyboy
08-06-2008, 03:20 PM
greetings phil. very nice program. its working great on my sprint mogul.

great program. works great on my touch cruise. can i get afull video of how the program works with map and live feeds. all the works

Phil Bishop
08-06-2008, 04:02 PM
great program. works great on my touch cruise. can i get afull video of how the program works with map and live feeds. all the works

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are asking/looking for?

If you are looking for some videos about the sofware, you can find some here http://www.ix-m.com/LiveMediaGPS.aspx

Hope this helps?

atroj
09-06-2008, 05:08 PM
I'm looking into using this to stream video from my phone to a house mates via 802.11 (only GPRS is available in my area). Basically I'm looking for a p2p video stream (almost like a video call but I don't need voice). In an effort to conserve network bandwidth (slow connection) is there a way to go directly from phone to host laptop and then to the other phone without going over Live Media servers?

I was thinking about trying to tie the Live Media stream into VLC/Darwin to achieve this. Has anyone looked into this yet? Is there an easier way? Maybe this could work even easier if TCPMP could connect directly to Live Media?

Phil Bishop
10-06-2008, 06:35 AM
I'm looking into using this to stream video from my phone to a house mates via 802.11 (only GPRS is available in my area). Basically I'm looking for a p2p video stream (almost like a video call but I don't need voice). In an effort to conserve network bandwidth (slow connection) is there a way to go directly from phone to host laptop and then to the other phone without going over Live Media servers?

I was thinking about trying to tie the Live Media stream into VLC/Darwin to achieve this. Has anyone looked into this yet? Is there an easier way? Maybe this could work even easier if TCPMP could connect directly to Live Media?

Only broadcasts with GPS are captured by the system for playback on the web.

If you broadcast with GPS off, then nothing is captured/stored by the system.

There is a PC application for Live Media which you can download from http://www.ix-m.com

Below are a few simple instructions to get started with private broadcasting.


Create a different user name account with the PC application.
Add that user name to your Buddy ACL on your mobile.
On the PC app, select the Live Media tab, then private from the dropdown list, then click the search button.
You should see your mobile user name listed, but grayed out.
Start broadcasting from your mobile
Click the search button again on the PC to refresh the list
Your user name icon should now be enabled
Double click on the icon to connect


If you just want private mobile to mobile, then you don't need the PC application, just add the other mobile users to your Buddy ACL on your mobile.

Hope this helps?

atroj
11-06-2008, 02:03 PM
If you just want private mobile to mobile, then you don't need the PC application, just add the other mobile users to your Buddy ACL on your mobile.

Hope this helps?I tried doing this but received Internet/Network connection failed. Since my AP isn't always connected to the internet I'm wondering if there's a way to cut out the connection check.

shogunmark
11-06-2008, 03:26 PM
I tried doing this but received Internet/Network connection failed. Since my AP isn't always connected to the internet I'm wondering if there's a way to cut out the connection check.

Phil & atroj...

I think you guys are misunderstanding each other. atroj wants to stream directly to his pc through local lan.

There is a pc app, however it still all runs through incax servers. So yes you can stream to your pc, however it still needs the internet.

atroj
11-06-2008, 11:01 PM
There is a pc app, however it still all runs through incax servers. So yes you can stream to your pc, however it still needs the internet.Ah, bummer. I tried out MS Portrait a little while ago and it didn't work with our phones.

csrow
12-06-2008, 12:21 AM
When the built in update downloads V1.6.3 and installs it, the installed version shows up as 1.6.2.

So, if you run the 'check for update' it will download again but still remain at 1.6.2.

P.S. - Any progress on the Semi-Public broadcasting feature?

Phil Bishop
13-06-2008, 11:33 AM
When the built in update downloads V1.6.3 and installs it, the installed version shows up as 1.6.2.

So, if you run the 'check for update' it will download again but still remain at 1.6.2.

P.S. - Any progress on the Semi-Public broadcasting feature?

Thanks for spotting that, should be OK now and tagged as v1.6.4 to void conflicts.

wrt to semi public broadcasting I am waiting to the end of the month to give people more time to send comments & feature requests. In July the work will begin a complete new version, website included.

Phil Bishop
15-06-2008, 12:15 PM
Recent changes...


Recorder application: Usability improvements including being able to add a description before uploading.
Website: Thumbnails now shown for your broadcasts.
Website: Embed option added to generate HTML code to allow you to insert your broadcasts in blogs etc (IE and FF only)


Latest CAB
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.5.cab

Website
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta

*I haven't figured out how to embed an IFRAME here as an example though :confused:

Phil Bishop
24-06-2008, 04:49 PM
Many thanks for all the feedback during the beta and for the published broadcasts.

Here's an early preview of the improved desktop web streaming currently being developed for v2.0

This requires the Silverlight plugin for your desktop browser, so the first time you click the link you might need to install the plugin and then restart your browser.

http://www.ix-m.com/sl-demo

Also thanks to Shugunmark for the video capture with his TyTN II ROM.

Phil Bishop
10-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Latest v2.0 preview demo with Video and Audio

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/test-pages/v2_samples.htm

This requires the Silverlight plugin for your desktop browser, so the first time you click the link you might need to install the plugin and then restart your browser.

shogunmark
12-07-2008, 08:39 PM
This is all coming along quite nicely and will make a great app! cant wait to start testing the next version!

Phil Bishop
18-07-2008, 01:25 PM
The offline recorder application in the latest cab now supports full video and optionally Video with Audio.

Latest CAB
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.8.cab

Getting started with Live Media Recorder

When you select Record the application goes into Preview mode – Nothing is being recorded at this time. Use the Menu to select the record mode, or press the Select (enter) key to start recording in the default mode with Audio ( this can be changed from the settings)
After you select the record mode there will be a couple of seconds delay whilst the application makes the camera go full screen.
You should hear a beep sound and then see the full screen camera in record mode ( if you don’t see the red recorder light flashing after a few seconds press the select (enter) key again.
Hopefully you are now in record mode?
To Stop recording press the select (enter) key or back button.
If the camera screen doesn't close, then press the select key a 2nd time.
Use the “Files” menu/icon to watch your video back.
To upload your video use the Menu on the files screen.
Login to the website http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta to view your recordings with GPS mapping.
Please publish your driving videos to the website so everybody can see them :D

Phil Bishop
19-07-2008, 12:21 PM
Sorry, there was a missing DLL in the 1.6.7 CAB which could cause the Live Broadcaster GPS screen to crash :mad:

Please use 1.6.8 instead from below or via "Check for updates"

Latest CAB
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.6.8.cab

Phil Bishop
20-07-2008, 10:08 AM
May I suggest a small improvement: could it be added some sort of "remote control" of the broadcast: for example an SMS could disable/enable the broadcast or another could act on the tracking, or even both.

Thanks a lot

SMS Activation is now available in the Live Media application.

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.7.0.cab

Insrtructions:

On the Broadcaster settings screen, select the SMS Activation item from the list
Check the Enable item and optionally Send Acknowledgment item (this sends an SMS response back when a broadcast is started)
Enter the password you want to activate broadcasting - the SMS must start with the password.
Click the Done button and then leave the application running on the broadcaster settings screen.


NOTES:
The Password is used to both start and stop a remote broadcast.
If you are already broadcasting manually a stop SMS will be ignored.

Coming next is the Semi Public broadcasting mode.

Phil Bishop
21-07-2008, 10:35 AM
What would be nice for my situation is a semi-public broadcast where a public broadcast is accessed with a password.

So, from the mobile device, it would ask for a password before starting a semi-public casting. Then anyone with a proper password will be able to access the broadcast from the web.

I've finally got around to adding this feature (great idea of yours btw) in the latest release

http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta/mobile/livemedia-1.7.1.cab

Instructions:


On the Broadcaster settings screen select the "Public PIN" item.
Enter your chosen PIN (min 6 characters) then click the Save menu.
Go to the website http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta and login with your user name and the PIN you just created.
You will now be logged in with guest access to your Live broadcasts only. Your stored broadcasts are not visible.
Start broadcasting
After a few seconds you should see your user name appear with a link on the website - click the link to connect to your broadcast.


This feature seems to fit quite nicely with the SMS remote activation feature if you are driving and a friend (with your PIN and SMS password ) wants to check where you are etc by activating a broadcast and logging in on the website.

jeepin_idaho
29-07-2008, 05:51 AM
i just started playing around with the program and i think its awesome! what i'd really like it to do though is the give me the option to shoot out something like a "i'm broadcasting now" link for my to send as a sms. i don't know exactly what the "sms activation" is really supposed to do. I haven't managed to get it to do anything actually:confused:. but for now i guess its okay for someone to just log on and use the public pin to access my broadcast. overall, this program is amazing! lets see your iphone do that! ha!:)

Phil Bishop
29-07-2008, 11:48 AM
i just started playing around with the program and i think its awesome! what i'd really like it to do though is the give me the option to shoot out something like a "i'm broadcasting now" link for my to send as a sms. i don't know exactly what the "sms activation" is really supposed to do. I haven't managed to get it to do anything actually:confused:. but for now i guess its okay for someone to just log on and use the public pin to access my broadcast. overall, this program is amazing! lets see your iphone do that! ha!:)

Many thanks for the positive feedback.

Notifications (send a SMS or email to selected contacts when I start to broadcast ) will be added soon (it's on my "to do" list )

FYI: SMS Activation is used to make a broadcast start up remotely - for example you have your phone in its holder on the dashboard whilst driving but not broadcasting. A friend with your activation code can SMS you the code and the application will start broadcasting. When your friend has seen enough, they can send a 2nd SMS to stop the broadcast. For this to work the application needs to be left running on the broadcaster settings screen (this is the screen with all the broadacting options listed)

Phil Bishop
02-08-2008, 08:29 PM
A sailing team competing at Cowes Week 2008 have taken the latest beta (using a Touch Diamond) onboard their boat for the races.

Live Streaming is available from between 9:00 - 11:00 GMT until the 9th August 2008, but you can also watch the captured broadcasts too from the link below until the 9th August 2008

http://www.ix-m.com/pelican

On day #1 the team came in 7th, but the battery on the Diamond only lasted for 1.5 hours of non-stop broadcasting, so we couldn't watch the full race live :(

The guys with the boat are trying to hook up some external power to keep the Diamond running longer over the next few days of racing, but they have weight restrictions...

You can check out thier blog here http://www.pelican-racing.co.uk where they will post updates on how they get on with application.

Phil Bishop
03-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Hope you find this interesting....

The HTC Diamond being used as a "head cam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6TOvzet2M

Pics of how they did this are on the Pelican Racing blog

http://www.pelican-racing.co.uk/?p=27

stando76
04-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Awesome app! 2 questions however.
When I try to record something to broadcast later, when the camera goes to full screen, i get a message that not enough memory is available to use the camera (I am using a mogul)

The other question is, why is gps required. I am not sure I always want my location know. lol.
Thanks,
Stan

Phil Bishop
05-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Awesome app! 2 questions however.
When I try to record something to broadcast later, when the camera goes to full screen, i get a message that not enough memory is available to use the camera (I am using a mogul)

The other question is, why is gps required. I am not sure I always want my location know. lol.
Thanks,
Stan

I've seen a similar thing on a Hermes and I had to change a registry setting to tell the device to use the storage card rather than main memory when saving video.

On the Hermes it's here - make a note of the value (or backup the registry) before you change it just incase it doesn't work !

HK_CU\Software\HTC\Camera\v4.00\Strings\Save

There is a key called "Location" change this to "Storage Card" or the device name of your storage card.

In answer to your other question GPS is only required if you are doing offline video. You can use the Live media application with GPS off to broadcast live if you want to, however, only GPS broadcasts can be viewed live on the beta website. No GPS broadcasts currently require the desktop application or another mobile for viewing.

Hope this helps?

Phil Bishop
05-08-2008, 06:55 PM
The first v2.0 release is now available with a new User Interface - screenshot attached.

All GPS functionality has now been moved into a new application called "Live Media GPS" and removed from the "Live Media" application

When you upgrade or install the latest CAB there are 2 applications installed


Live Media GPS - use this application for both Live and Recorded broadcasts
Live Media - same as v1.7.3, but with GPS removed.


Beta Website
http://www.ix-m.com/gps-beta


http://www.ix-m.com/images/LiveMediaGPS.jpg

Phil Bishop
06-08-2008, 09:49 AM
what i'd really like it to do though is the give me the option to shoot out something like a "i'm broadcasting now"

This is in the latest release with the new User Interface (Live Media GPS application) screenshot in an earlier posting.

Instructions:

1. Settings
2. Public PIN -- create a PIN
3. Done
4. Notifications
5. Menu | Enabled (select this to enable notifications)
6. Menu | Add
7. Select from your contacts and then use the "Add" button for each contact you want to notify
8. Back
9. Check that the settings screen says "Notifications on"

When you start to broadcast a SMS is sent with your user name and public PIN saying that you are broadcasting.

kevintunis
16-09-2008, 01:43 AM
New to the site, I actually stumbled on it Googling for Live Media GPS. First, Bill Fisher suggested your site from the post on Windows Media Connection "Live Streaming with Windows Mobile (http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/connection/forums/p/1619/5843.aspx#5843)". Second I downloaded from the this link http://www.ix-m.com/download.aspx is this the most up to date cab? Or should I be using the livemedia -1.8.4.cab?

Phil Bishop
16-09-2008, 06:34 AM
New to the site, I actually stumbled on it Googling for Live Media GPS. First, Bill Fisher suggested your site from the post on Windows Media Connection "Live Streaming with Windows Mobile (http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/connection/forums/p/1619/5843.aspx#5843)". Second I downloaded from the this link http://www.ix-m.com/download.aspx is this the most up to date cab? Or should I be using the livemedia -1.8.4.cab?

The latest version is now always available from http://www.ix-m.com/download.aspx or by using the Check for updates option in the application.

Phil Bishop
25-09-2008, 12:24 PM
After the succesful trial of the app at Cowes Week 2008 ( the world's largest sailing regatta ) the software is being used this week at the SB3 world championships in Dublin Bay, Ireland. There will be up to 4 boats broadcasting Live from the event later today ( weather permitting ) and tomorrow (26th Sept 2008) on the final day.

Both Live and playback can be found here

http://www.live-regatta.com

For those of you on European time, the Live broadcasts will be available on the 26th between 11:00am - 5:00pm BST (GMT+1) - the boats only broadcast during the races, so streaming isn't always online.

On a technical note: they are using the current version of Live Media GPS installed on 4 HTC Touch Diamonds with external battery packs, that give us up to 7 hours of Live broadcasting over HSDPA. The devices are attached to the boat's with car mounts in waterproof bags :D. The broadcasts are all activated via SMS at the designated race times.

You can also watch the streaming on your mobile (no maps) via the Live Media application - the broadcaster names start with "boat_" or "live regatta".

Many thanks to all of you who have contributed feedback and ideas that have helped us to get to where we are now.

Mike1002
29-09-2008, 08:14 PM
Trying to run this software again (after a long time).
I'm using the most current version, and when i try and record, i press my enter key, but as soon as it switches to that smaller screen, the recording ends and tells me that its finished.

When i try and broadcast, it just crashes.

I'm using a Hp hw6915, running WM5 - previous builds (pre 1.6) worked a treat.

Thanks, Mike.

Phil Bishop
30-09-2008, 05:45 PM
Trying to run this software again (after a long time).
I'm using the most current version, and when i try and record, i press my enter key, but as soon as it switches to that smaller screen, the recording ends and tells me that its finished.

When i try and broadcast, it just crashes.

I'm using a Hp hw6915, running WM5 - previous builds (pre 1.6) worked a treat.

Thanks, Mike.

Mike,

There have been a few changes to the app with how the video camera is displayed on the device, so if you get an error screen when the app crashes, please post the details or send me a PM so I can take a look.

WRT the recording stopping, this could also be a bug in the app that affects your device or it could be that there's not enough storage space available. I have seen this on one HTC device, where I had to frig the registry to tell the video recorder to explicitly store videos on the storage card, rather than in main memory.

Thanks

Phil

Mike1002
30-09-2008, 07:28 PM
After selecting "Record" the screen brighness turns up to full (so the camera starts), then i press select to start the capture, it says going full screen, then the backlight goes back down to normal, that smaller screen picture, with the rectangle in the middle, showing the camera image comes up for about 1 second then i get a box saying "Video captures successfully Use the files option to watch your video back".

When i click the Files button, theres nothing in there.

Thanks for the help, Mike.

EDIT: I've tried the reg modification on the previous page, but i dont have the HTC section.
Im using a HP device (although made by HTC).

Theres also 10MB free on my device memory, so i dont think thats the problem, just looks like it is terminating as soon as it starts recording.

Phil Bishop
01-10-2008, 11:43 AM
Trying to run this software again (after a long time).

When i try and broadcast, it just crashes.

I'm using a Hp hw6915, running WM5 - previous builds (pre 1.6) worked a treat.

Thanks, Mike.

Been doing some testing with Mike and the broadcaster issue should now be fixed in the latest build (Live Media GPS v2.1.6) by using the following new settings.

Using the Live Media GPS app select

Settings
Video Recorder
Uncheck "Direct screen mode"


This setting is only required if the broadcast screen hangs on your device.

The latest cab is always available here
www.ix-m.com/downloads/livecam.cab

Phil Bishop
05-10-2008, 08:45 AM
After selecting "Record" the screen brighness turns up to full (so the camera starts), then i press select to start the capture, it says going full screen, then the backlight goes back down to normal, that smaller screen picture, with the rectangle in the middle, showing the camera image comes up for about 1 second then i get a box saying "Video captures successfully Use the files option to watch your video back".

When i click the Files button, theres nothing in there.


Turns out that Mike's phone was recording in WMV and the application was expecting MP4 -- after some testing Mike informs me the latest build resolves these problems.

Phil Bishop
09-10-2008, 02:38 PM
FYI: The Live Media GPS website has recently been updated.

After logging in, use the "Live Link" top right to connect to your live broadcasts.

Please note the change of URL to...

Website
http://www.ix-m.com/gps

Latest CAB is always available here
www.ix-m.com/downloads/livecam.cab

nocomp
20-10-2008, 07:46 PM
hi folks,
first of all congrats & big up to phil for this very nice appz!
I have a p3600 with win mob 6.1 (same nickname in your portal),here are my questions:
is it possible to see on the phone what we broadcast,a preview,cause all i have is a black screen while broadcasting.
I saw some ppl broadcasting almost true videos,me what i get is more a "animated gif", how can i do for broadcast a better quality knowing that hq is enable in the settings,and using the last release.

thx for your time
best regards
herve

hightechlive
21-10-2008, 04:08 AM
phil my tilt says its broadcasting but i cant see it on the website,any ideas

Phil Bishop
21-10-2008, 11:43 AM
hi folks,
first of all congrats & big up to phil for this very nice appz!
I have a p3600 with win mob 6.1 (same nickname in your portal),here are my questions:
is it possible to see on the phone what we broadcast,a preview,cause all i have is a black screen while broadcasting.
I saw some ppl broadcasting almost true videos,me what i get is more a "animated gif", how can i do for broadcast a better quality knowing that hq is enable in the settings,and using the last release.

thx for your time
best regards
herve

If you are seeing a blank screen when broadcasting, you could try turning off the "direct screen mode" under Settings | Video recorder. Alternatively it could be your powersaving settings kicking in and turning the backlight off? (the app should keep this on)

wrt broadcasting quality etc, several things can affect the frame rate when broadcasting live, most notibly the Internet connection speed and the buffer size (when using the default buffer size and the connection is too slow you will see jumps in the broadcasts)

Some of the best Live results I have seen so far have been from the HTC Touch Diamond, using LQ and a buffer set to 50. The boats at the SB3 World Championship used these settings and the Live streaming was pretty smooth.

Hope this helps?

Phil Bishop
21-10-2008, 11:51 AM
phil my tilt says its broadcasting but i cant see it on the website,any ideas

When you start to broadcast you should see "Broadcasting 1 connection" after a few seconds - this is system connected to your phone.

There a couple of ways to see this on the website...

1. Make your broadcasts public (requires latest version) and then when you broadcast it will appear on the homepage in the top row with the published broadcasts - click the tumbnail image to connect.

or

2. Login to the website and you should see a "Live Link" top right, when you start to broadcast the text should change to indicate your are Live -- click the link to connect.

Hope this helps?

hightechlive
21-10-2008, 01:39 PM
phil i dint see this "Broadcasting 1 connection,i see on the top left corner it says on line.

Phil Bishop
21-10-2008, 01:50 PM
phil i dint see this "Broadcasting 1 connection,i see on the top left corner it says on line.

Did you use the GPS application?

I ask, because there are 2 Live Media applications installed from the CAB.

1. Live Media GPS
2. Live Media

Both applications have a broadcaster, but only the GPS app can be viewed on the GPS website. The other version of the broadcaster can be viewed by other mobiles or via the desktop app.

Hope that makes sense?

ozpilot
30-10-2008, 07:27 AM
Hi Phil.

I am having trouble remote viewing a live stream from my phone on a laptop.

The 2 applications installed fine on my HTC (Sprint) Mogul. I start the Live Media GPS app and start the broadcast and the phone says "Broadcasting 1 Connection"

The http://www.ix-gps.com/Default.aspx site opens up in IE6 (with Silverlight plugin) just fine. I login and I see "Broadcasting" click on it and my GPS location shows up. Try as I may I cannot see the video. The phone says "Broadcasting 2 connections".

Clicking on the "My Page" Link pulls a 3x 4 grid up with my user ID for less than 1/2 a second then a world map appears and overlays it. Clicking on the "My Broadcasts" tab has a similar result, with a 4 x 1 grid with a scrollbar appearing briefly.

Any insights into this problem would be appreciated.

Phil Bishop
30-10-2008, 07:48 AM
Hi Phil.

I am having trouble remote viewing a live stream from my phone on a laptop.

The 2 applications installed fine on my HTC (Sprint) Mogul. I start the Live Media GPS app and start the broadcast and the phone says "Broadcasting 1 Connection"

The http://www.ix-gps.com/Default.aspx site opens up in IE6 (with Silverlight plugin) just fine. I login and I see "Broadcasting" click on it and my GPS location shows up. Try as I may I cannot see the video. The phone says "Broadcasting 2 connections".

Clicking on the "My Page" Link pulls a 3x 4 grid up with my user ID for less than 1/2 a second then a world map appears and overlays it. Clicking on the "My Broadcasts" tab has a similar result, with a 4 x 1 grid with a scrollbar appearing briefly.

Any insights into this problem would be appreciated.

Many thanks for reporting the problem, which might be IE6 related, because the new Silverlight version of the website has only been tested on IE7 and Firefox on XP and Vista.

If you can't or don't want to upgrade to IE7, then the quick solution might be to install Firefox and see if that works on your PC?

[Edit] Just dug out an old Windows 2000 laptop with IE6 and I can reproduce the problem -- I'll take a look to see if it is fixable.

Phil Bishop
30-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Hi Phil.

The http://www.ix-gps.com/Default.aspx site opens up in IE6 (with Silverlight plugin) just fine. I login and I see "Broadcasting" click on it and my GPS location shows up. Try as I may I cannot see the video. The phone says "Broadcasting 2 connections".


I think I've found what the problem was with IE 6 - should be working OK now, but if you still encounter problems with IE 6, try Firefox v3 instead.

Hope this helps?

ozpilot
30-10-2008, 10:16 PM
I think I've found what the problem was with IE 6 - should be working OK now, but if you still encounter problems with IE 6, try Firefox v3 instead.

Hope this helps?

Thanks Phil. I installed IE7 and no problem.

I have a further question. I want to view the mobile device from the desktop application.

I installed the desktop application and logged it. I was presented with a dialog box which said. "You cannot use the same login details on both your mobile and PC"

So I created another user account, added that account on the mobile phone as a buddy, and tried to view it on the PC. I can see the buddy but not connect to it. Under the View Menu only "Chat" and "Connected Users" are available. The others are greyed out. I have searched the documentation on how connect like this but to no avail. Your documentation is great but does not cover this scenario well. Do I have to create a public profile? Your input would be appreciated.

Phil Bishop
31-10-2008, 06:20 AM
Thanks Phil. I installed IE7 and no problem.

I have a further question. I want to view the mobile device from the desktop application.

I installed the desktop application and logged it. I was presented with a dialog box which said. "You cannot use the same login details on both your mobile and PC"

So I created another user account, added that account on the mobile phone as a buddy, and tried to view it on the PC. I can see the buddy but not connect to it. Under the View Menu only "Chat" and "Connected Users" are available. The others are greyed out. I have searched the documentation on how connect like this but to no avail. Your documentation is great but does not cover this scenario well. Do I have to create a public profile? Your input would be appreciated.

No, you don't need to go public unless you want to...

I've added some instructions on how to view private mobile broadcasts to the "Help | Getting Started" page available from the desktop app. This page is loaded from the web, so you don't need to re-install the desktop app.

The two relevant sections are
1. Viewing private broadcasts
2. Broadcasting from your Windows Mobile phone.

ozpilot
02-11-2008, 07:40 AM
No, you don't need to go public unless you want to...

I've added some instructions on how to view private mobile broadcasts to the "Help | Getting Started" page available from the desktop app. This page is loaded from the web, so you don't need to re-install the desktop app.

The two relevant sections are
1. Viewing private broadcasts
2. Broadcasting from your Windows Mobile phone.

Great job Phil

That latest update fixed the problem.

Now a request. Can you modify the "Multi Screen" window so that only one webcam is displayed? The goal here is to increase the size of the window so that it either covers the place of the 4 webcams or a full screen option. Maybe a pulldown menu with number of webcams?

Thanks for all the rapid responses.

knights191
02-11-2008, 04:06 PM
i am using a samsung i780 with wm 6.1.
i am getting the error message that Camera cannot operate with GPS.


And how do I get my external gps to work, because by default it uses my internal gps, and I cannot find an option to select the com port or so.

Suggestions? :(

realy very kewl app btw

Phil Bishop
02-11-2008, 05:48 PM
Great job Phil

That latest update fixed the problem.

Now a request. Can you modify the "Multi Screen" window so that only one webcam is displayed? The goal here is to increase the size of the window so that it either covers the place of the 4 webcams or a full screen option. Maybe a pulldown menu with number of webcams?

Thanks for all the rapid responses.

I'll add that to my to do list - for support/questions that are not directly related to the mobile GPS App please use the contact form on the website instead of this thread.

Many thanks.

Phil Bishop
02-11-2008, 06:05 PM
i am using a samsung i780 with wm 6.1.
i am getting the error message that Camera cannot operate with GPS.


And how do I get my external gps to work, because by default it uses my internal gps, and I cannot find an option to select the com port or so.

Suggestions? :(

realy very kewl app btw

Very interesting, not hear about that one before! but I do know of other issues with the app on the i760 (Verizon)

I don't know much about Samsung devices, but you could try this...

Do you have the "External GPS" app (under settings) on your mobile?

If so, that's where you set the com port and hardware for external GPS - on HTC devices the app picks up the settings from there.

Once you have the external GPS up and running, you might also need to make sure that the "Video Recorder -> Direct Video Mode" setting in the app is unchecked, because on the i760 having this checked hangs the broadcaster.

Hope this helps?

knights191
02-11-2008, 08:53 PM
well.. i changed to com port settings again (as I already did) but still it shows: SAMSUNG GPS VER 1.0 (or something).. i disabled the setting as you membered, but then I get an error and it exits the application.

Now I am broadcasting, but not seeing any video on the screen.. and the results that are sent to the server are named: INVALID GPS DATA.

strange issue : (
With Direct Screen mode on::

eMediaGPS.exe
ObjectDisposedException

bij System.Threading.Timer.throwIfDisposed()
bij System.Threading.Timer.Change(UInt32 dueTime, UInt32 period)
bij System.Threading.Timer.Change(Int32 dueTime, Int32 period)
bij System.Net.HttpWebRequest.startReadWriteTimer()
bij System.Net.HttpWebRequest.ConnectionClient.Read(By te[] data, Int32 offset, Int32 length)
bij System.Net.HttpReadStream.NetworkRead(Byte[] data, Int32 offset, Int32 length)
bij System.Net.ContentLengthReadStream.doRead(Byte[] data, Int32 offset, Int32 length)
bij System.Net.HttpReadStream.ReadToDrain(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 length)
bij System.Net.HttpReadStream.doClose()
bij System.Net.ContentLengthReadStream.doClose()
bij System.Net.HttpReadStream.Finalize()


with direct screen off:

Uitzonderingscode: 0xc0000005
Uitzonderingsadres: 0x010021d0
0x00000000 wordt gelezen
Module met fout: ix-cam.dll
Offset: 0x000021d0

bij WMCamera.OpenCamera(Int32 id, IntPtr& hCamera)
bij WMCamera.OpenSPCamera()
bij Broadcaster.timer1_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
bij Timer._WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
bij ApplicationThreadContext._InternalContextMessages( WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
bij EVL.EnterModalDialog(IntPtr hwnModal)
bij Form.ShowDialog()
bij RecorderUI.MenuInvokedHandler()
bij StylusEventHandler.listView_ItemActivate(Object sender, EventArgs e)
bij ListView.OnItemActivate(EventArgs e)
bij ListView.HandleItemActivate(Int32 iItem)
bij ListView.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
bij Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
bij EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
bij Application.Run(Form fm)
bij Program.Main()

some of the code.. any ideas / any tips ?

Phil Bishop
02-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Now I am broadcasting, but not seeing any video on the screen.. and the results that are sent to the server are named: INVALID GPS DATA.

strange issue : (
With Direct Screen mode on::

.. any ideas / any tips ?

Unless anbody else on the forum has any suggestions? I think I'll need to try and get my hands on a i780 to figure this out, because to date all the testing and most of the people using the app have HTC devices, however, there are several broadcasts published on the website from an i760 (user gannotti) - so there might be some hope that the app will work on your phone.

FYI When you see INVALID GPS DATA this means the device is not transmitting valid coordinates -- can happen if the weather is bad or indoors.