Anyone else having serious crash problems with WM6.1 ROMs?

[chronosxx]

After trying six or seven WM6.1-based ROMS from three different cookers (19199 and 19209), I'm starting to wonder if there's not something 'seriously' wrong with the WM6.1 base image.

I begins to strike me as some sort of duration-based memory degradation. My experience has been that runtime lasts between 2 and 48 hours before a hard reset is necessary. In my case, I pared my installs down to adding merely my password safe as the only add-on, and still it crashed.

The most interesting pre-crash was going to "Programs" and noticing the number of icon substantially reduced (...and reducing...), and the remaining icons as default program icons.

After about five days of fighting with these and trying different methods of extending runtime, I reloaded an older copy vp3G's 3.0.0 from last summer and haven't had a problem for the past 72 hours. In fact, I had no lock-ups with WM6-based, previously.

I'd be interested in other people's experiences with WM6.1-based ROMs on the Hermes...

- Marc

[lupes5]

i may be wrong, but i think recall reading that flashing back to your stock rom, then flashin to 6.1 may fix some hard reset problems....

as for me, ive used 4 or 5 6.1 roms and havent experienced a hard reset.....my latest and favorite so far is faria's and dr.p's 6.1 rom, been running a week no hard reset...

im usin an at&t branded 8525

[st3v3]

i was having a few issues with this but ended up changing radio versions from my standard 1.16 to 1.48.

havent had an issue since doing that.

[fizzy15]

i had the crash problem also, but after I not install htc cube in any of the wm6.1, everything ok and stable.:)

problem is with cube in wm6.1 i think.:confused:

[hamster0914]

Faria's is the best so far, but they all have problems to varying extents. Have you tried running Oxios Close apps? That will help you claim back memory and maybe help prevent the need for a hard reset. you can get it here: http://www.oxios.com/memory/

[chronosxx]

i may be wrong, but i think recall reading that flashing back to your stock rom, then flashin to 6.1 may fix some hard reset problems....

as for me, ive used 4 or 5 6.1 roms and havent experienced a hard reset.....my latest and favorite so far is faria's and dr.p's 6.1 rom, been running a week no hard reset...

im usin an at&t branded 8525

Interesting. I did notice that on some ROM flashes that boot screen retained a previous ROM's splash. That might mean that some ROMs are not including all facets (OS, Radio...Bootloader?) of the complete image. Will give that a shot now that I'm back to a stable WM6.

[chronosxx]

i was having a few issues with this but ended up changing radio versions from my standard 1.16 to 1.48.

havent had an issue since doing that.

Radio is 1.45 with vp3G 3.0.0. Will check again after a Faria re-flash and upgrade to 1.48 if it isn't included.

[chronosxx]

i had the crash problem also, but after I not install htc cube in any of the wm6.1, everything ok and stable.:)

problem is with cube in wm6.1 i think.:confused:

I had that thought too, but my last ROM didn't include any of the HTC apps, at all, so I think it's some conflict or something lower level. The cube 'is' a resource hog, however...

[chronosxx]

Faria's is the best so far, but they all have problems to varying extents. Have you tried running Oxios Close apps? That will help you claim back memory and maybe help prevent the need for a hard reset. you can get it here: http://www.oxios.com/memory/

The resets are always due to hard lockups, and they can be with only Activesync running as an application. I try to keep the number of running apps at a minimum for reasons that are probably fairly obvious to all here... ;)

[milleniumbug89]

you are not alone...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376211

[abid885]

Im also having the same problem .. all sorts of experiments has been done to test on why WM6.1 crash when I install them .. but 1 thing i noticed that it always hang before softreset that eventually lead to hardreset .. i thought hardware accelerations problem ... so what i do is .. every WM6.1 i changed to 8mbpp .. until now my machine ok.


My2Cents.
-/Abid.

[ultramag69]

Flash to stock rom then to wm 6.1... Apparently there is a problem if you flash from big storage rom to wm 6.1(not sure why this is so) but there have been a huge number of people who say this works for them, myself included.... I tried every wm6.1 rom that came out then doing something stupid eflashe stock os. No problems with wm 6.1 since. Also I believe that 19209 is somewhat more stable than versions 19199 or 19202... I'm using PDAViets 19209 rom,just changed to black edition, and have had NO trouble EVER since installing it when it first came out, no soft resets and more importantly, no hard resets... Cheers :D

[chronosxx]

you are not alone...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376211

Yep, sounds like the same behavior I'm seeing. Soft lock, reset, soft lock, reset, hard reset...lose data... (rinse and repeat)

[raidzx]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959

follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.

[oxydiom]

I have the same problem! Tell schaps so in his next rom he may fix this serious problem :)

[aliencurv]

After trying six or seven WM6.1-based ROMS from three different cookers (19199 and 19209), I'm starting to wonder if there's not something 'seriously' wrong with the WM6.1 base image.

I begins to strike me as some sort of duration-based memory degradation. My experience has been that runtime lasts between 2 and 48 hours before a hard reset is necessary. In my case, I pared my installs down to adding merely my password safe as the only add-on, and still it crashed.

The most interesting pre-crash was going to "Programs" and noticing the number of icon substantially reduced (...and reducing...), and the remaining icons as default program icons.

After about five days of fighting with these and trying different methods of extending runtime, I reloaded an older copy vp3G's 3.0.0 from last summer and haven't had a problem for the past 72 hours. In fact, I had no lock-ups with WM6-based, previously.

I'd be interested in other people's experiences with WM6.1-based ROMs on the Hermes...

- Marc


Use Shadow CE 6.1's rom .. I have been using it for months, and it is near flawless. Do it, you won't regret it . I've tried everything else .

[chronosxx]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959

follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.

After trying almost everything to get more than a few hours of runtime out of WM6.1, I followed the above instructions to the letter and WM6.1 has worked for 24 hours now (yes...a new record). I will update in a few days if the Hermes/Faria 6.1 combo continues to function.

One note: I was not able to use Vista to update to Hard-SPL after the Stock AT&T 6.0 ROM re-flash. Each attempt resulted in an updater error on the PC after the handheld entered bootloader mode. Did the same procedure on XP and it worked flawlessly.

[popy2006]

Hey. Had the same problems but i solved it with flashing a AT&T Stock Rom first.

Now my Hermes with PDAVIET B&C WM6.1 Rom running like a flash :D:D:D:D

Without any freezes.

here is the link to my problem thread:

cu
poPY

[gregma]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959

follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.

Sorry, but following those instructions does NOT solve my problem. It does for some, but not all.

What works for ME, is to turn off the Storage Card power saving.

[raidzx]

Sorry, but following those instructions does NOT solve my problem. It does for some, but not all.

What works for ME, is to turn off the Storage Card power saving.

I will update the thread with your information, thanks!

[Dr Puttingham]

One note: I was not able to use Vista to update to Hard-SPL after the Stock AT&T 6.0 ROM re-flash. Each attempt resulted in an updater error on the PC after the handheld entered bootloader mode. Did the same procedure on XP and it worked flawlessly.Have you upgraded to SP1 for Vista? Not sure but I THINK I flashed the AT&T 3.62 when I was still on Vista...

(went back to XP w SP3, now many clients that HAD to go Vista are asking me to downgrade them, BillyBob Gates' finest hour for sure :rolleyes: )

[chronosxx]

Have you upgraded to SP1 for Vista? Not sure but I THINK I flashed the AT&T 3.62 when I was still on Vista...

(went back to XP w SP3, now many clients that HAD to go Vista are asking me to downgrade them, BillyBob Gates' finest hour for sure :rolleyes: )

Install is still stable and agreed, Doc. I haven't taken the plunge yet to SP1, but the early returns say it doesn't help performance 'or' sound which are the two Vista killers for me... ...eh... gave it a shot, and back to XP/Linux.

I think this thread can be closed now. There's newer one's in it's place... :cool:

[r3d3]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381959

follow those instructions and your problems will be solved.

Since approx 2 weeks I suffer from the same problem you mentioned in this thread. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and it's a really strange behavior: system runs fine for some hours (in the beginning it was days), then suddenly some files a/o calendar entries etc. disappear and then the system hangs. After performing a soft reset the system won't startup again. Sometimes a message appears on the screen that a "serious data issue exists due to installing uncertified software or unproperly OS shut down"?! Never saw this message in 6 years expierience with windows mobile!
The solution mentioned in the thread linked above didn't work for me and I lost nearly the whole sunny weekend with flashing and unsuccessful efforts to solve this problem.
...Yesterday I was totally frustrated with all these WM6.1 things and as I need the device for work I went back to the original HTC WM6.0 ROM (of course I added the most fundamental tweaks with shaps advanced config etc.).
And what should I say: The device runs very well for 36 hours now and feels as quick as all the tweaked cookers roms here around.
I made a personal decision: I'm finished with all these flashing orgies from now on!

P.S.: I think the hard reset and data inconsistency problem is definitly ROM related and most likely related to big storage ROM and anything changed in the WM6.1 builds and...some kind of black magic as it seems only to affect some devices.

[Dr Puttingham]

P.S.: I think the hard reset and data inconsistency problem is definitly ROM related and most likely related to big storage ROM and anything changed in the WM6.1 builds and...some kind of black magic as it seems only to affect some devices.I had the same problem with BigStorage WM6 ROM's as well as BS WM6.1......

[unicorn78]

Since approx 2 weeks I suffer from the same problem you mentioned in this thread. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and it's a really strange behavior: system runs fine for some hours (in the beginning it was days), then suddenly some files a/o calendar entries etc. disappear and then the system hangs. After performing a soft reset the system won't startup again. Sometimes a message appears on the screen that a "serious data issue exists due to installing uncertified software or unproperly OS shut down"?! Never saw this message in 6 years expierience with windows mobile!
The solution mentioned in the thread linked above didn't work for me and I lost nearly the whole sunny weekend with flashing and unsuccessful efforts to solve this problem.
...Yesterday I was totally frustrated with all these WM6.1 things and as I need the device for work I went back to the original HTC WM6.0 ROM (of course I added the most fundamental tweaks with shaps advanced config etc.).
And what should I say: The device runs very well for 36 hours now and feels as quick as all the tweaked cookers roms here around.
I made a personal decision: I'm finished with all these flashing orgies from now on!

P.S.: I think the hard reset and data inconsistency problem is definitly ROM related and most likely related to big storage ROM and anything changed in the WM6.1 builds and...some kind of black magic as it seems only to affect some devices.

You are right ;)

[e_gregious]

I've just been flashing my little heart out on 6 or 8 or whatever 6.1 ROMs and they've all worked fine.
Must be something wrong with my handset..:o
I'm running 1.54.30.10 radio, though