New ATT Rom build 19209 tons of fixes and new radio 1.65.17.10

[incognitho]

From
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.14.06
Protocol version: 25.81.40.02H
CE version: 3.14.502.1
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209
To
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.17.10
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
CE version: 3.51.502.0
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209

Issues Fixed

HTC 8925 (1.04.502) - SMS timestamp is not TZ localized
Calendar one hour time shifting issue
Will not reconnect to IMS after exiting flight mode
Incorrect authentication settings used for ims.cingular APN
Inconsistent Power up/Power Down Screens from Previous Software Loads
Rejecting an Incoming PTT Call While on a Voice Call
Change default weather city to empty, so user chooses the city at initial start
PTT button under Start -> Settings -> Buttons, should be listed in the buttons that can be changed by the user
Sends incorrect accept-encoding SIP header
Sends incorrect tel URI when dialing an international number
Adaptive APN doesn't work properly when device is powered up and initially in "no service" state
Sends incorrect codec information in SDP
Did not attempt to register to IMS after re-opening PDP context
Does not reset NC value in HTTP digest after each challenge
When in circuit switch call and then a PTT call comes in and rejected, Audio is routed to speaker phone.
Device shows MSC12
MediaNet home page URL shoud be changed from http://home to http://device.home
When voice command is activated, the user is unable to use voice command over their BT headset (registry setting?)
Keyboard opening audio: request to default keyboard slide audio to OFF
Remove "Getting Started" from rom
Does not include codec profile and level on OPTIONS response
Launcher Tab: The screen rotation app rotates the display in the wrong direction
Data connection disconnects when device goes to stand-by (screen goes off)
Does not retry IMS registrations after receiving a 480 response
Approximately 1 out of 32 IMS authentications fails due to HTTP digest implementation bug
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-11: Flip Cover or Slide Closed during Update. Issue: When slide is open during update device displays 2 screens: update screen on top of the AT&T logo.
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-9: No SIM in the device after successful firmware update. Issue: Described in "Description"
AT&T Ringtone is not seen HTC ITS
[GSM-BTR-1-7962] It should display the full E.164 MSISDN (+11 digit format) in VSC invitation & screen HTC ITS

**WORD OF WARNING**
When flashing this rom, it gets to about 13% and will go back to the bootloader, it stays there for about 30-60 seconds, then will go back to the progress screen and start at 14%. DONT FREAK OUT AND PULL THE PLUG EARLY

**WORD OF WARNING FROM MOD**
You cannot downgrade your radio after flashing this ROM. We advise you to skip on flashing until a solution can be found. You have been WARNED. Temp fix - cooked ROM w/o radio found below. Not sure if it works w/o this radio...

Click me for rom (http://rapidshare.com/files/109419015/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe)

[futbolkeeper]

Thanks I'll give it a flash!

4Shared Mirror <---- Removed

[leoiden]

incognitho what can i say but thank you for sharing bro youre the best inside member!!

[AllTheWay]

**WORD OF WARNING**
When flashing this rom, it gets to about 13% and will go back to the bootloader, it stays there for about 30-60 seconds, then will go back to the progress screen and start at 14%. DONT FREAK OUT AND PULL THE PLUG EARLY

TAKE THE ADVICE FROM THE MOD DO NOT INSTALL THIS ROM, the radio can not be downgraded after flash.

[kwill]

thanks for the find. will check it out!!

[_RMB_]

THANKS....great find.....LET THE STRIPPING BEGIN!!!

[leoiden]

first impression slow and non responsive!

[AllTheWay]

first impression slow and non responsive!

DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM

[leoiden]

Great don't tell me that LOL! Just started to flash.
deletd all the bloatware from add and remove and made it more stable;)

[leoiden]

Microsoft voice command Build V1.6.19209
Music ID Version 1.2.22
Mobile Instant Messaging Powerd by OZ Version 4.1.6
;)

[AllTheWay]

deletd all the bloatware from add and remove and made it more stable;)

I just soft reset during customization with any AT&T ROM.

Don't need all that crap.

Did you notice the screen that said "The Device is clearing the storage. Please wait."

LOL

[SH4YD33]

Kaiser 1.65.17.10 Radio Only:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395 - Read this first. You may not be able to flash another radio.

ATT Build 19209 - Radio 1.58.16.27 w/ Custom RUU
http://rapidshare.com/files/109746061/Kaiser-RUU-ATT_Build_19209_-_Radio_1.58.16.27.rar - 1.65.17.10 is not currently working properly. If you want to try this ROM please download this...

ATT Build 19209 - OS-ONLY w/ Custom RUU
http://rapidshare.com/files/109668305/Kaiser-ATT_Build_19209-OS-ONLY-Custom_RUU.rar.rar

ATW... When i tried to change the page pool the default value wasnt there. Try changing the pagepool for us.. :D


I personally havent flashed any of these ROMs. Please report back your findings..

[punkcell]

I guess i'll get started on the dumping process
I hate it already.

[gadgetdad]

besides the bloatware what dont you like about this rom?

Did you attempt the other "test" att rom - if so what is your impression between the two?

[leoiden]

I just soft reset during customization with any AT&T ROM.

Don't need all that crap.

Did you notice the screen that said "The Device is clearing the storage. Please wait."

LOL for a minute ithought the damn thing was erasing my 6gb microsd card also :eek:

[punkcell]

besides the bloatware what dont you like about this rom?

Did you attempt the other "test" att rom - if so what is your impression between the two?

It just a plan old att rom with crap, its also slow, u figure they would at least put a little bit more punch in. I'm just gonna take it apart and see what i can do with it.

thank good for all these great cooks, hopefully ALEX will release his own rom to this.

[gadgetdad]

[QUOTE=punkcell;2140573]It just a plan old att rom with crap, its also slow, u figure they would at least put a little bit more punch in. I'm just gonna take it apart and see what i can do with it.

I appreciate the feedback - While you are stripping it apart it would be great if you could extract the Videoshare from it so that we can use Vid Share on other 6.1 roms :)

[AllTheWay]

ATW... When i tried to change the page pool the default value wasnt there. Try changing the pagepool for us.. :D

Will do. Still at work for another hour. Will try it once I am at home. Thanks for ripping the radio out of this ROM :)

[austinsnyc]

if i beat you to it i'll see if the PP is in the same place :)

[ablousov]

did someone see what are two nbh files in this upgrade:

KaiserIMG_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_radio_sign_25.83 .40.02_1.65.17.10_Test0signed.nbh

KaiserIMG_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_radio_sign_25.83 .40.02_1.65.17.10_Ship1signed.nbh

[P1Tater]

Just another MIRROR (http://www.4shared.com/file/45065706/d33a150a/RUU_Kaiser_WWE_61_AKU_102_Build__19209_1651710.htm l)

[dwsco]

Does the "Device is clearing the storage, please wait" message mean that no hard reset is required maybe? Just wondering... I did the HR anyways :)

Interesting I didn't get the 13% hitch. It did pause for a while at 14% but then just went on and completed.

Lastly (before I start playing) SR just won't work for me to stop the bloatware install. I've tried about 5 times now and the customization just starts again every time... have to see how it looks.

[AllTheWay]

Does the "Device is clearing the storage, please wait" message mean that no hard reset is required maybe? Just wondering... I did the HR anyways :)

Interesting I didn't get the 13% hitch. It did pause for a while at 14% but then just went on and completed.

Lastly (before I start playing) SR just won't work for me to stop the bloatware install. I've tried about 5 times now and the customization just starts again every time... have to see how it looks.

I would hold off on flashing this ROM. In the other 1.65.17.10 radio thread we are talking about how we are unable to change the radio.

I would hold off on flashing this ROM.

[dwsco]

I would hold off on flashing this ROM. In the other 1.65.17.10 radio thread we are talking about how we are unable to change the radio.

I would hold off on flashing this ROM.

Too late :) but thanks...

[Memnoch30]

Is anybody else suffering with how slow the phone is now? Everything is slow. I should say slower than ever. If I go to my emails, if I go page down by clicking on the scroll bar, there is a lag of one full second before it scrolls down to the next page. Another full second for the start menu to pop and pretty much do anything on it. I have hard reset 2 times already. Guess it's back to the test version.

I took everything from Remove Programs to see if it got better but nope. I also can't skip customization. If I do, it just starts all over again :(

I'll try the radio tomorrow on my way to work since it's late now and report back.

[AllTheWay]

Is anybody else suffering with how slow the phone is now? Everything is slow. I should say slower than ever. If I go to my emails, if I go page down by clicking on the scroll bar, there is a lag of one full second before it scrolls down to the next page. Another full second for the start menu to pop and pretty much do anything on it. I have hard reset 2 times already. Guess it's back to the test version.

I took everything from Remove Programs to see if it got better but nope. I also can't skip customization. If I do, it just starts all over again :(

I'll try the radio tomorrow on my way to work since it's late now and report back.

LOL...welcome to the stuck radio. Try changing the radio and see what happens.

[ablousov]

By the way CorePlayer in DirectDraw mode playing much better

[hchavarria]

Ok...So I flashed this new ROM and it said it completed correctly but I received an error saying there was an error with the clock so I decided to SR and now I am stuck at the green Windows Mobile Version 6.1 screen and I can't connect to my computer to try to flash again. I have already SR and I did a HR too. Any ideas?

Well, after several tries I was able to get to the tricolor screen to reflash and now seems to be working fine....Something must have happened during the last attempt.

[_Alex_]

Ok...So I flashed this new ROM and it said it completed correctly but I received an error saying there was an error with the clock so I decided to SR and now I am stuck at the green Windows Mobile Version 6.1 screen and I can't connect to my computer to try to flash again. I have already SR and I did a HR too. Any ideas?

Well, after several tries I was able to get to the tricolor screen to reflash and now seems to be working fine....Something must have happened during the last attempt.

Just out of curiosity, have you read the warning? :D

[Macgyvec3]

By the way CorePlayer in DirectDraw mode playing much better

Interesting. How much better? Benchmark?

[hchavarria]

Just out of curiosity, have you read the warning? :D

I actually had flashed before the warning...

[leoiden]

From
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.14.06
Protocol version: 25.81.40.02H
CE version: 3.14.502.1
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209
To
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.17.10
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
CE version: 3.51.502.0
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209

Issues Fixed

HTC 8925 (1.04.502) - SMS timestamp is not TZ localized
Calendar one hour time shifting issue
Will not reconnect to IMS after exiting flight mode
Incorrect authentication settings used for ims.cingular APN
Inconsistent Power up/Power Down Screens from Previous Software Loads
Rejecting an Incoming PTT Call While on a Voice Call
Change default weather city to empty, so user chooses the city at initial start
PTT button under Start -> Settings -> Buttons, should be listed in the buttons that can be changed by the user
Sends incorrect accept-encoding SIP header
Sends incorrect tel URI when dialing an international number
Adaptive APN doesn't work properly when device is powered up and initially in "no service" state
Sends incorrect codec information in SDP
Did not attempt to register to IMS after re-opening PDP context
Does not reset NC value in HTTP digest after each challenge
When in circuit switch call and then a PTT call comes in and rejected, Audio is routed to speaker phone.
Device shows MSC12
MediaNet home page URL shoud be changed from http://home to http://device.home
When voice command is activated, the user is unable to use voice command over their BT headset (registry setting?)
Keyboard opening audio: request to default keyboard slide audio to OFF
Remove "Getting Started" from rom
Does not include codec profile and level on OPTIONS response
Launcher Tab: The screen rotation app rotates the display in the wrong direction
Data connection disconnects when device goes to stand-by (screen goes off)
Does not retry IMS registrations after receiving a 480 response
Approximately 1 out of 32 IMS authentications fails due to HTTP digest implementation bug
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-11: Flip Cover or Slide Closed during Update. Issue: When slide is open during update device displays 2 screens: update screen on top of the AT&T logo.
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-9: No SIM in the device after successful firmware update. Issue: Described in "Description"
AT&T Ringtone is not seen HTC ITS
[GSM-BTR-1-7962] It should display the full E.164 MSISDN (+11 digit format) in VSC invitation & screen HTC ITS

**WORD OF WARNING**
When flashing this rom, it gets to about 13% and will go back to the bootloader, it stays there for about 30-60 seconds, then will go back to the progress screen and start at 14%. DONT FREAK OUT AND PULL THE PLUG EARLY

**WORD OF WARNING FROM MOD**
You cannot downgrade your radio after flashing this ROM. We advise you to skip on flashing until a solution can be found. You have been WARNED.

Click me for rom (http://rapidshare.com/files/109419015/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe)

we cannot downgrade the radio ?
:eek:

[asfoor]

AllTheWay... You can change radio however not the conventional way. If you guys are stuck, flash with ATT OEM ROM that includes the 1.27.14.09 radio and you will be up to snuff ... You just have to do extra work... thats it.

I am guessing something is affecting the speed, a dll conflict or steady protocol rejection attempt. When you guys figure out a way to strip it completely, please post and lets have a bite at it. Thanks,....

[AllTheWay]

AllTheWay... You can change radio however not the conventional way. If you guys are stuck, flash with ATT OEM ROM that includes the 1.27.14.09 radio and you will be up to snuff ... You just have to do extra work... thats it.

I am guessing something is affecting the speed, a dll conflict or steady protocol rejection attempt. When you guys figure out a way to strip it completely, please post and lets have a bite at it. Thanks,....

I tried the 1.57 shipped ROM that came with my phone and that didn't work. What makes you think that AT&T ROM will work?

[eltoro]

Any success changing the radio?
Flashing this ROM did it worked (ATT OEM ROM that includes the 1.27.14.09 radio)?

[leoiden]

I just tried with the att oem shipped rom with the 1.27.14.09 radio and no go still stuck with the horrible radio 1.65.17.10

[AllTheWay]

I just tried with the att oem shipped rom with the 1.27.14.09 radio and no go still stuck with the horrible radio 1.65.17.10

that's what I figured...I just wasted my time trying to do this. This is one puzzle that is beyond me.

[mccune]

This is probably the same way it works like on the Treo 750.
I've flashed it with radio 1.57.x.x and am stuck with it.

Why they do this at HTC or Microsoft. Maybe it's their evil way to let us know that they still control us instead of the other way around :rolleyes:

[_Alex_]

Well, since I've flashed this ROM & radio combo, I'm now forced to upgrade to WM6.1 :D So, here is the first cooked ROM, with a couple of things removed. Once I get further along, I'll start my own thread.

FYI, if you want to test this ROM w/o the radio, you can strip your own .nbh and flash the OS.nb only, or you can try this ROM out... (*edit* you can also try Kyphur's ROM, found a couple of posts down)

http://i32.tinypic.com/22c0te.png

Rapidshare Direct Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/109729375/Alex.v53.HTC.351.Lite.ROM.no.radio.nbh.html)

4shared (http://www.4shared.com/file/45086419/f55d960c/Alexv53HTC351LiteROMnoradio.html) <-- URL fixed, reported by Script. Thanks!

What's removed:
AAC Files
MobiTV
XMRadio
MusicID
Shops
MSPacMan Demo
TeleNav
Java Games
RingtonesWhat's Added / Updated:
Camera_5_0_4_2915_00
Customization - Alex's ROM Settings
Customization - Tier Autoinstall
Home Clock - My Puma White
Home Icons - Color
Home Themes - Transparent
Java - Esmertec_JbedJava_0_0_20080222_3_1
NetCF_3.5
SqlCeMobile_3.5
Today Plugin - HTC_HomePlug_9_icons
Tools - dotFred Task Manager
Tools - PocketScreen 1.3
Tools - QuickMenu
Tools - Total Commander 2.5b3Registry tweaks:
Registry - SDK Certificates
Registry__Disable - Beam
Registry__Disable - Date Today
Registry__Disable - Device Lock Today
Registry__Disable - Internet Calling Today
Registry__Disable - Owner Today
Registry__Disable - Security warnings when installing non-certified app
Registry__Disable - SMS Sent notification
Registry__Disable - Tasks Today
Registry__Enable Auto TimeZone from Network
Registry__Enable FileSystem cache and set to 0x2000
Registry__Enable Title Bar Clock
Registry__Enable_Disconnect_Button
Registry__Increase FileSystem filter cache 0x8000
Registry__Increase font cache to 0x20000
Registry__Increase Ring Volume
Registry__PIE 5-Way Nav

[irockash]

Well, since I've flashed this ROM, I'm now forced to upgrade to WM6.1 :D So, here is the first cooked ROM, with a couple of things removed. Once I get further along, I'll start my own thread. FYI, if you want to test this thread w/o the radio, you can strip your own .nbh and flash the OS.nb only, or you can try this ROM out...


Yeah, screwed with the radio, may as well. Question though, does this have the stock dialer, and if not, is Video share still included?

[MickyMax]

Any comments about the radio please...

[walker]

Fortunately, I didn't stuck with this horrible radio, so I am still free to enjoy new roms and good radios. Thank you Alex

[_Alex_]

Yeah, screwed with the radio, may as well. Question though, does this have the stock dialer, and if not, is Video share still included?

Dialer was not touched, video share still included.

[kyphur]

I've added UC Support and only removed the config.txt file that I needed to replace for it.

I then packaged the OS with Radio 1.65.14.06 (the earlier Cingular WM6.1 Radio). No splash screen or SPL. Note: it is Rom Chef Friendly meaning that I haven't stripped out any of the files that are needed to cleanly deconstruct this Rom.

Here is the MegaUpload Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SITR7KUO).

This is the first WM6.1 build that has me seriously considering a XDA-Live Tilt 2.0 Build.

[mccune]

Can you tell me why Kyphur? Since there are several Builds wondering around here...

[kyphur]

Can you tell me why Kyphur? Since there are several Builds wondering around here...

I've tried all of the "official" 6.1 Kaiser Roms and a couple of the lite cooked ones and they all seemed to run as slow as the first several builds of WM5 for the BlueAngel (Cingular SX-66).

After killing the AutoConfigure (by installing UC Support) I have found this Rom initially to be more stable and faster than any previous WM 6.1 Rom I've tried (in fact I didn't sleep last night so I could test some of my usual programs on this build). Of course this observation is subjective as I'm not even going to try to play the "Benchmark Bingo" game.

Of course WM6.1 is generally slower than WM6.0 and for me it's noticable in how the sound is slightly delayed in Tom Tom for instance and the delay is increased if your getting it via Bluetooth.

All-in-all I think this one is a better starting point and will get better as I rip the junk out. Now time may prove me wrong but I feel this one is just about "Ready for Primetime" which unfortunately means that it exceeds carrier standards and will probably get shipped.

[mccune]

As clear as crystal :)

Thanks for the explanation.. ..I don't really believe in the benchmarks I see in the Kaiser ROM threads.

It's the users and in the end myself that have to convince me :D

[sirooga]

XDA Live 2.0! Let me be the first to say, Woot!

[sub69]

......Note: it is Rom Chef Friendly meaning that I haven't stripped out any of the files that are needed to cleanly deconstruct this Rom.....

Why, oh why do half of the chefs around here now feel the need to strip out these files anyway? Gets right on my nerves!

I'd love to be able to grab a ROM, run it through Kaiser Kitchen, add my "WIMP" package (with my settings and registration details) and rebuild it so that I can be sure that if anyone thieves my phone and figures out how to do a hard reset, WIMP will still be working. (There are usually a couple of other things that I add and remove, but WIMP is essential!)

It just means I don't bother running a large amount of cooked ROMs. I either strip out carrier ROMs and cook my own, or if I REALLY want to try a ROM out I have to piddle about manually editing .hv files and all sorts to add any packages in. It's always refreshing to find a ROM that's "re-cookable" but there are less and less around these days...

Er, great job by all the chefs by the way. I DO appreciate all the effort - just wish this particular practice would disappear. Would save me time, and probably lead to an improvement in my social life!

[kyphur]

Why, oh why do half of the chefs around here now feel the need to strip out these files anyway? Gets right on my

The honest answer is that most Rom Chefs (myself included) want to squeeze every last kb out of the Rom image to make for more avaliable Memory to the end user. I just made a choice to stop doing it as I've had requests for my "Kitchen Package" and this way anyone who wants it can get it. Besides XDA Live is lite enoug that I don't really need to get another few hundred kb free!

[xcsdm]

_Alex_ - Just a note on your roms/kitchen oem packages. The Puma White clock for HTC Home seems to have a small bug/error. When displaying 1:30, the digital 8 still appears faded in the first character. My fix for this was to copy/overwrite your existing package files with files direct from the HHC v1.0 install.

XC

[sub69]

The honest answer is that most Rom Chefs (myself included) want to squeeze every last kb out of the Rom image to make for more avaliable Memory to the end user. I just made a choice to stop doing it as I've had requests for my "Kitchen Package" and this way anyone who wants it can get it. Besides XDA Live is lite enoug that I don't really need to get another few hundred kb free!

Fair enough. I'll certainly gravitate towards Kyphur ROM's in future! :)

However, you do often get nothing but a "----- Protected ROM -----" folder (or something similar) when you run an nbh through Kaiser Kitchen.

I can appreciate that chefs spend a lot of time on their ROM's, and don't want their hard work ripped off by some grunt who changes a few reg entries and tries to pass it of as their own cooked ROM, but there has to be a better way of "branding" a ROM without completely crippling the ability to add and remove OEM packages?

Oh, and why is it that in the hunt for the litest (sp) ROM, Chef's almost always neglect to remove files like "Utah.png" (what the hell was that ever used for, by the way?) and more often than not, there's an initflashfiles.dat that's three times as big as it needs to be? ;)

(Absolutely promise that I'm going to stop whinging now - I'm clearly having a bad day!)

[frankanthonyjones]

I've added UC Support and only removed the config.txt file that I needed to replace for it.

I then packaged the OS with Radio 1.65.14.06 (the earlier Cingular WM6.1 Radio). No splash screen or SPL. Note: it is Rom Chef Friendly meaning that I haven't stripped out any of the files that are needed to cleanly deconstruct this Rom.

Here is the MegaUpload Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SITR7KUO).

This is the first WM6.1 build that has me seriously considering a XDA-Live Tilt 2.0 Build.

I flashed this file, but still have the 1.65.17.10 radio. Should it have changed to the 1.65.14.06 radio?

[kyphur]

I flashed this file, but still have the 1.65.17.10 radio. Should it have changed to the 1.65.14.06 radio?

Nope, as stated several time in this thread and the thread for the Radio only that New Radio Locks itself into you device. Currently there is no known way to change Radio Roms once you got that one. That's why I swapped out the the Radio for the earlier at&t WM6.21 Radio.

[frankanthonyjones]

Nope, as stated several time in this thread and the thread for the Radio only that New Radio Locks itself into you device. Currently there is no known way to change Radio Roms once you got that one. That's why I swapped out the the Radio for the earlier at&t WM6.21 Radio.

My bad, I understand now. If you hadn't "already" flashed, you could use this file to get the new build without the new radio.

thanks

[kyphur]

My bad, I understand now. If you hadn't "already" flashed, you could use this file to get the new build without the new radio.

thanks

exactly....:eek:

[lennie]

exactly....:eek:

hey kyphur just flashed your rom with the older radio, I was hoping this would carry tcpmp suuport and no luck, damn.

[mccune]

Did you try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381292)?

[omarnone]

TAKE THE ADVICE FROM THE MOD DO NOT INSTALL THIS ROM, the radio can not be downgraded after flash.

Hey AllTheWay so are you still stuck with this thing? does it work any good at least?

[lennie]

Did you try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381292)?

thanks man, I'm gonna have to get it when I go home because rapidshare don't allow me to download with AT&T.

[herg62123]

i have used jocks supercid unlocker and before i used the unlocker i got the sim unlock code from at&t. i am going to be daring and flash this rom with new radio.....cause i have an idea. i have heard through the grapevine if you unlock it with the actual unlock code and not software unlocker the radio should change. i will be the guinee pig and try out my theory and report back.


WISH ME LUCK

[BUMP THAT]

Has anyone noticed that the hardware keys dont light up when pressed with this ROM? Like the soft key buttons, Email, internet and SEND and END buttons. None light up and i know they did with Slueths 3.0 ROM. Or is it just me?

[shutter13]

Has anyone noticed that the hardware keys dont light up when pressed with this ROM? Like the soft key buttons, Email, internet and SEND and END buttons. None light up and i know they did with Slueths 3.0 ROM. Or is it just me?

Mine don't light up either with this ROM, not a huge deal for me, less battery used.

Every time my device starts up after a soft reset, it opens a data connection, is this thing "phoning home". Also with the standard 12MB pagepool the total Program Memory should be 101.32MB I'm getting a total program memory of 85.32MB. So that's what a 28MB pagepool on this ROM by default??

[P1Tater]

Every time my device starts up after a soft reset, it opens a data connection, is this thing "phoning home".

Probably a lock via the radio to let at&t know whether to charge you for tethering or not.

[Hdstreetglide]

Probably a lock via the radio to let at&t know whether to charge you for tethering or not.

Check your PM

[kyphur]

RE: the Data Connection, using Radio 1.65.14.06 (the first at&t WM6.1 Radio) I do not get that!

RE: PagePool size, I used the PagePool Changer v2.0 and set the PagePool to "24" and still report 85.32MB Program Memory. Ironically when I flashed the PP Changed ROm I suddenly have a new problem, Backlight Timer settings don't work (i.e. regardless of what I set it always times out even when charging and the backlight timers are disabled)

This is with only a couple of apps installed, didn't do this with same cooked mods except PP change.

Every time my device starts up after a soft reset, it opens a data connection, is this thing "phoning home". Also with the standard 12MB pagepool the total Program Memory should be 101.32MB I'm getting a total program memory of 85.32MB. So that's what a 28MB pagepool on this ROM by default??

[_Alex_]

However, you do often get nothing but a "----- Protected ROM -----" folder (or something similar) when you run an nbh through Kaiser Kitchen.

Wait for my kitchen, it'll be out in a week or two, after I finish my ROMs.

I can appreciate that chefs spend a lot of time on their ROM's, and don't want their hard work ripped off by some grunt who changes a few reg entries and tries to pass it of as their own cooked ROM, but there has to be a better way of "branding" a ROM without completely crippling the ability to add and remove OEM packages?
Actually, it's for performance, not privacy. Removing hundreds of .DSM & .RGU files from \Windows makes the ROM faster.


Oh, and why is it that in the hunt for the litest (sp) ROM, Chef's almost always neglect to remove files like "Utah.png" (what the hell was that ever used for, by the way?) and more often than not, there's an initflashfiles.dat that's three times as big as it needs to be? ;)
My kitchens & ROMs have always been extremely light, with all unnecessary jpgs removed.

I normally remove all the repetitive Microsoft licensing crap from initflashfiles.dat, but I encountered a serious bug which caused me to backtrack and redo everything from scratch, or my ultraclean ROM would have been released shortly after my first ROM was released in this thread.

Because of this, I chose to strip as little as possible from PROVXML, RGUs & Initflashfiles.dat.

[_Alex_]

Mine don't light up either with this ROM, not a huge deal for me, less battery used.

Every time my device starts up after a soft reset, it opens a data connection, is this thing "phoning home". Also with the standard 12MB pagepool the total Program Memory should be 101.32MB I'm getting a total program memory of 85.32MB. So that's what a 28MB pagepool on this ROM by default??


This would be my guess too. When I get a chance, I'll try to figure out the hex offset for 28MB page pool (it's not listed in Dutty's true page pool thread), so I can search for that string in NK.EXE & OS.NB...

[_Alex_]

RE: PagePool size, I used the PagePool Changer v2.0 and set the PagePool to "24" and still report 85.32MB Program Memory. Ironically when I flashed the PP Changed ROm I suddenly have a new problem, Backlight Timer settings don't work (i.e. regardless of what I set it always times out even when charging and the backlight timers are disabled)

This is with only a couple of apps installed, didn't do this with same cooked mods except PP change.


Others have discovered that PagePool Changer 2.0 & 1.x either changes the maximum allowed pagepool growth size or is a placebo effect. Dutty & Tom Codon has a thread on how to change the true page pool size, which decreases the amount of available RAM.

Hence, this is why I and others believe this ROM has a 28MB pagepool by default.

[_Alex_]

_Alex_ - Just a note on your roms/kitchen oem packages. The Puma White clock for HTC Home seems to have a small bug/error. When displaying 1:30, the digital 8 still appears faded in the first character. My fix for this was to copy/overwrite your existing package files with files direct from the HHC v1.0 install.

XC


Thanks! I've noticed this before but I never really looked at it. I'll correct it in my ROMs that include HTC home.

[GSLEON3]

RE: the Data Connection, using Radio 1.65.14.06 (the first at&t WM6.1 Radio) I do not get that!

RE: PagePool size, I used the PagePool Changer v2.0 and set the PagePool to "24" and still report 85.32MB Program Memory. Ironically when I flashed the PP Changed ROm I suddenly have a new problem, Backlight Timer settings don't work (i.e. regardless of what I set it always times out even when charging and the backlight timers are disabled)

This is with only a couple of apps installed, didn't do this with same cooked mods except PP change.

Page Pool changer DOES NOT WORK. Page Pool mods require HEX edits.

[_Alex_]

Page Pool changer DOES NOT WORK. Page Pool mods require HEX edits.


Noticed you said in another thread that you've already changed the true page pool size on this ROM. Was wondering if you could share that hex offset with everyone else? It'd save me some time. Thanks!

[kyphur]

Page Pool changer DOES NOT WORK. Page Pool mods require HEX edits.

See how seldom I even want to change it? Well, I might actually change it for this one though.

[AllTheWay]

Hey AllTheWay so are you still stuck with this thing? does it work any good at least?

Phone conversations are fine but this tears up my battery when using Bluetooth, GPS, WIFI, Internet.

Not kidding either. Battery went from 64% to 38% when using GPS for 17 minutes. :eek:

[AllTheWay]

Well, since I've flashed this ROM & radio combo, I'm now forced to upgrade to WM6.1 :D So, here is the first cooked ROM, with a couple of things removed. Once I get further along, I'll start my own thread.



_Alex_ just curious to the difference between this ROM and the one you posted last night?

[_Alex_]

_Alex_ just curious to the difference between this ROM and the one you posted last night?


The ROM here was my first prototype. Only a few packages removed and a few added, so I could get the feel of whether or not this ROM was worth continuing. It felt pretty fast, so I started working on the UltraClean ROM found in my new thread.

Hope this helps!

[AllTheWay]

The ROM here was my first prototype. Only a few packages removed and a few added, so I could get the feel of whether or not this ROM was worth continuing. It felt pretty fast, so I started working on the UltraClean ROM found in my new thread.

Hope this helps!

Yes it does thank you.

I usually prefer the lite version to ROM's. :)

Will try out the lite version first. Just wish I could find a way to change the page pool on this AT&T Build.

[herg62123]

Update from AT&T Source.

The new radio is designed to lock any phone to at&t network. in order to change radio the phone must be sim unlocked by get the unlock code and put in the phone. jockeys supercid does the samething as that.

this is an update letting everyone know from a few posts earlier of mine the with sim unlock with actual sim code and'or use jockeys supercid unlocker the new radio can be flashed back to previous radios and still work.

make sure you use jockeys supercid unlocker before you upgrade to this radio.

i was able to change from this new radio to others previously like 1.64.08.21

[mskovrinskie]

Does this mean that an already SIM unlocked phone (like the HTC Kaiser branded version of this phone) doesn't have an issue with being locked to this radio after flashing this ROM since it is sold unlocked?

[P1Tater]

Sim unlocking has nothing to do with it. It's not even the SuperCID, it's the security flag. The code checks for the security flag state stored in another location. If the check indicates that the flag state is security unlocked then it will skip the check.

BTW, Jocky's tool is for security unlocking. It does sim unlock but that is just an addon. The security unlocking w/ AT command support is not for people whoi just want to sim-unlock their phone. It even states that in his thread.

Also, it is my belief this is a way for AT&T to also locate a way for them to check for tethering and then "phone home" the information for charging purposes. It's illegal for them to "lock" you to their network.

All in all, your source is highly mistaken.

Update from AT&T Source.

The new radio is designed to lock any phone to at&t network. in order to change radio the phone must be sim unlocked by get the unlock code and put in the phone. jockeys supercid does the samething as that.

[kyphur]

It's illegal for them to "lock" you to their network.

All in all, your source is highly mistaken.

It would be interesting for someone who SIM Unlocked with a code from AT&T to flash this Radio and see if they can then change Radio.

OR

Maybe AllTheWay can call the friendly guys at AT&T to get the SIM Unlock code for his Radio Locked Tilt, then he can confirm this.

Honestly it sounds redundant though, they keep you locked to their network by giving you a SIMLocked Device, the Radio Rom is capable of working with other networks it's the SIM that allows/disallows it.

BTW, we all signed contracts with at&t and accepted discounts on the hardware in exchange for agreeing to be limited to their network so yes they can legally restrict us to their newtork (which includes networks they have roaming agreements with).

[P1Tater]

It would be interesting for someone who SIM Unlocked with a code from AT&T to flash this Radio and see if they can then change Radio.

OR

Maybe AllTheWay can call the friendly guys at AT&T to get the SIM Unlock code for his Radio Locked Tilt, then he can confirm this.

Honestly it sounds redundant though, they keep you locked to their network by giving you a SIMLocked Device, the Radio Rom is capable of working with other networks it's the SIM that allows/disallows it.

BTW, we all signed contracts with at&t and accepted discounts on the hardware in exchange for agreeing to be limited to their network so yes they can legally restrict us to their newtork (which includes networks they have roaming agreements with).

ATW was simunlocked. He wasn't security unlocked though.

[kyphur]

ATW was simunlocked. He wasn't security unlocked though.

Then the "at&t source's info" doesn't agree with observed behavior.

[P1Tater]

Then the "at&t source's info" doesn't agree with observed behavior.

Please forgive me. I think I'm having a blonde moment. I'm not following.

[kyphur]

Please forgive me. I think I'm having a blonde moment. I'm not following.

at&t Source said Radio will allow flashing to change if SIM unlocked.

ATW is SIM unlocked.

Observed behavior & at&t Source Don't agree....

[P1Tater]

at&t Source said Radio will allow flashing to change if SIM unlocked.

ATW is SIM unlocked.

Observed behavior & at&t Source Don't agree....

LOL, told you. I WAS having a blonde moment. So, this is what it's like to feel like an idiot. Doesn't feel good at all.

[kyphur]

LOL, told you. I WAS having a blonde moment. So, this is what it's like to feel like an idiot. Doesn't feel good at all.

at least it's temporary for you, remember there are a lot of people who will live their whole life in a cloud of "Blonde Haze"!!

[princeasi]

has anyone successfully used mms with this rom???

[futbolkeeper]

has anyone successfully used mms with this rom???

Just tested it here and it worked damn fast.

[princeasi]

Just tested it here and it worked damn fast.

really! what are your mms & data settings? becuz im having problems.

[futbolkeeper]

really! what are your mms & data settings? becuz im having problems.

I got a cab from AllTheWay for the settings that I use. Here is a copy for ya! Hope it works for you, it should though.

[princeasi]

I got a cab from AllTheWay for the settings that I use. Here is a copy for ya! Hope it works for you, it should though.

yeah this worked, much appreciated, thanks!

[herg62123]

It would be interesting for someone who SIM Unlocked with a code from AT&T to flash this Radio and see if they can then change Radio.

OR

Maybe AllTheWay can call the friendly guys at AT&T to get the SIM Unlock code for his Radio Locked Tilt, then he can confirm this.

Honestly it sounds redundant though, they keep you locked to their network by giving you a SIMLocked Device, the Radio Rom is capable of working with other networks it's the SIM that allows/disallows it.

BTW, we all signed contracts with at&t and accepted discounts on the hardware in exchange for agreeing to be limited to their network so yes they can legally restrict us to their newtork (which includes networks they have roaming agreements with).
that is what i did. i sim unlocked my phone with unlock code and then used jockeys supercid unlocker. by doing that i am able to change radios with no problems.

[gthing]

BTW, we all signed contracts with at&t and accepted discounts on the hardware in exchange for agreeing to be limited to their network so yes they can legally restrict us to their newtork (which includes networks they have roaming agreements with).

Not ALL of us...

[P1Tater]

that is what i did. i sim unlocked my phone with unlock code and then used jockeys supercid unlocker. by doing that i am able to change radios with no problems.

the sim unlock did nothing for you. jocky's supercid also sim unlocked your phone. however, by using the supercid, you security unlocked the phone which is what is allowing you to go back and forth. the new radio checks for the security. w/o the security unlocker it attaches a flag to the radio not allowing you to change.

[frankanthonyjones]

the sim unlock did nothing for you. jocky's supercid also sim unlocked your phone. however, by using the supercid, you security unlocked the phone which is what is allowing you to go back and forth. the new radio checks for the security. w/o the security unlocker it attaches a flag to the radio not allowing you to change.

will this method work for me if i have already flashed to this new radio, but now have the code from at&t?

[P1Tater]

will this method work for me if i have already flashed to this new radio, but now have the code from at&t?

Had you used Jocky's SuperCID tool prior to flashing the radio? If not, I unfortunately have to tell you no. The only ones that can flash this radio without becoming locked to it are those that had used jocky's SuperCID unlocker first. However, Jocky, cmonex, Oli, GSLEON3 and many other highly intelligent minds are working on a solution. Hang tight. I really believe a solution is closely at hand.

[frankanthonyjones]

Had you used Jocky's SuperCID tool prior to flashing the radio? If not, I unfortunately have to tell you no. The only ones that can flash this radio without becoming locked to it are those that had used jocky's SuperCID unlocker first. However, Jocky, cmonex, Oli, GSLEON3 and many other highly intelligent minds are working on a solution. Hang tight. I really believe a solution is closely at hand.

thanks, I'll sit tight.

[californiarailroader]

I have heard that AT&T is testing the final release 6.1 ROM, is this that ROM?

[AllTheWay]

I have heard that AT&T is testing the final release 6.1 ROM, is this that ROM?

If it is I am not very impressed.

[mfrazzz]

So I have to ask... With each new leaked version of WM6 and WM6.1 there are new radios and those radios are not compatible with other releases (in some cases)... WIth this radio locking phones, if the official release does this same trick (or do you think this was done on a test rom to "catch" those flashing it?) then all future releases would have to be compatible with this radio right? Or AT&T is going to lock people to 6.1 to keep you from moving to WM7 or whatever in the future since you can't change the radio...

Just random thoughts as I think about this situation...

[thomassster]

I missed my backlight on my keys lighting up when press. Anyone know if theres a missing dll or a registry key for this rom?

[mccune]

I missed my backlight on my keys lighting up when press. Anyone know if theres a missing dll or a registry key for this rom?

This is a known bug for this build. Haven't seen any solution for it though...

[reitjam]

i downloaded this rom, maybe it was this rom, the only thing it said on the 4 shared (not ATW's or P1Tater's) was wwe_cingular_shipped.exe. I downloaded that because rapidshare timed out and the afore mentioned 4shared accounts were running slow. Now i am stuck with this radio any progress on getting us unstuck?

[xcsdm]

i downloaded this rom, maybe it was this rom, the only thing it said on the 4 shared (not ATW's or P1Tater's) was wwe_cingular_shipped.exe. I downloaded that because rapidshare timed out and the afore mentioned 4shared accounts were running slow. Now i am stuck with this radio any progress on getting us unstuck?

1. Why wouldn't you read the thread before flashing? I understand those of us who flashed when the ROM was brand new.... but the problem has been public for some time now.
2. SEARCH, there are 2 good threads with similar issues. the Radio Only thread is probably of most interest to you. However, this thread has a lot of information. Since you didn't read it the first time, why don't you try that first.

Short answer, you're still stuck.

XC

[reitjam]

1. Why wouldn't you read the thread before flashing? I understand those of us who flashed when the ROM was brand new.... but the problem has been public for some time now.
2. SEARCH, there are 2 good threads with similar issues. the Radio Only thread is probably of most interest to you. However, this thread has a lot of information. Since you didn't read it the first time, why don't you try that first.

Short answer, you're still stuck.

XC
The rom from the 4 shared account i got it from said it was the wwe_cingular_shipped.exe rom. I am fully aware of reading, i am a loyal reader of the forums but the rom i got said it was the shipped rom from att, i was in the process of flashing back to flash forward. i got the wrong rom from a guys 4 shared account because it was marked wrong. the only thing i feel i have done wrong is going with an unknown persons 4 shared account.

in addition i was not blaming the community, i am asking for help. If its out there and i need to read tell me, but as far as i have found, it is not.

[bengalih]

Sorry all if this is posted...which it most likely is, but when I do a search for "3.51.502.0" it says nothing is found (maybe the search engine doesn't like numbers?). Anyway... all these new cooked ROMs coming out say they are based on AT&T 3.51.502.0. However the latest Shipped ROM I see listed in the ROM page off the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs)is 3.14.501.1.

Where is the uncooked 3.51.502.0 ROM? If there is a thread that has it for download along with FAQ (e.g. compatible radios etc) could you please share. Again, I searched, but the engine tells me no results.

thanks.

[PsyOpWarlord]

Did you use the seach button at the top of the forum that will search the site using Google?
User CP | FAQ XDA-Portal | XDA-Store | XDA-Wiki Donate! | Members List | Calendar | New Posts | Search | Quick Links | Log Out

I just tried it and it produces a lot of results on 3.51.502.0 so numbers there do work fine:

[VirgilWoods]

Did you use the seach button at the top of the forum that will search the site using Google?
User CP | FAQ XDA-Portal | XDA-Store | XDA-Wiki Donate! | Members List | Calendar | New Posts | Search | Quick Links | Log Out

I just tried it and it produces a lot of results on 3.51.502.0 so numbers there do work fine:

Unfortunately, you FAIL. You didn't read the OP's post, nor did you help by saying "Search" which resulted in nothing productive added to the thread.
Next time, instead of blindly throwing the "S" word around, please try to read the post and answer with a real reply.

I'm actually writing this because I'm in the same boat, I can not find a 3.51.502.0 BaseROM anywhere for using it in a Kaiser Kitchen.

[mcmexican]

Didn't Leo just come out with a ROM based on 3.51.502.0? Maybe you can ask him.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915

-McMex

[shutter13]

Sorry all if this is posted...which it most likely is, but when I do a search for "3.51.502.0" it says nothing is found (maybe the search engine doesn't like numbers?). Anyway... all these new cooked ROMs coming out say they are based on AT&T 3.51.502.0. However the latest Shipped ROM I see listed in the ROM page off the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs)is 3.14.501.1.

Where is the uncooked 3.51.502.0 ROM? If there is a thread that has it for download along with FAQ (e.g. compatible radios etc) could you please share. Again, I searched, but the engine tells me no results.

thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387378&highlight=incognitho

[VirgilWoods]

Didn't Leo just come out with a ROM based on 3.51.502.0? Maybe you can ask him.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915

-McMex

Good idea, but I didn't want to bother him.. especially after Alex's Wiki says he doesn't want people gettng their hands on them..


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387378&highlight=incognitho

Unfortunately, that's not a ROM for cooking, it's an actual ROM for flashing, and the radio with it is bad ;)

[mcmexican]

Good idea, but I didn't want to bother him.. especially after Alex's Wiki says he doesn't want people gettng their hands on them..




Unfortunately, that's not a ROM for cooking, it's an actual ROM for flashing, and the radio with it is bad ;)

Naw he is a cool guy if he is too busy the worst think is he will not answer right?

-McMex

[f1ip]

this the only one i have with that version.

RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 51 502 0 25 83 40 02 1 65 14 06 UC (http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles/Roms/OEMs/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_25.83%20.40.02_ 1.65.14.06_UC.exe)

[kyphur]

Hey, is that the one where I replaced the Locked Radio with the unlocked AT&T Radio and added in User Customization? If it is then you can safely flash it but it has the bloated payload (although the AT&T stuff doesn't auto install the Cabs & other files are still in the Rom).

this the only one i have with that version.

RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 51 502 0 25 83 40 02 1 65 14 06 UC (http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles/Roms/OEMs/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_25.83%20.40.02_ 1.65.14.06_UC.exe)

[VirgilWoods]

Hey, is that the one where I replaced the Locked Radio with the unlocked AT&T Radio and added in User Customization? If it is then you can safely flash it but it has the bloated payload (although the AT&T stuff doesn't auto install the Cabs & other files are still in the Rom).

But can I use this with the kitchen i.e. does it have the OEM and SYS folders or is it straight to flash? Because I need that for cooking :)

[f1ip]

But can I use this with the kitchen i.e. does it have the OEM and SYS folders or is it straight to flash? Because I need that for cooking :)

i think its as close as the oem you can get.

forgot which thread that was posted in though.

[kyphur]

Yes, you can cook & re-cook it. I always make my Roms "Chef Friendly" even my XDA Live Series...

But can I use this with the kitchen i.e. does it have the OEM and SYS folders or is it straight to flash? Because I need that for cooking :)

[mdhensley5]

I think this ROM has done something to the in-call volume on my Tilt. Now people are complaining that they can barely hear me. I've security unlocked and changed radios. I've flashed different ROMs (ATT and custom). I've even gone through the process to send it back to ATT under warranty. Nothing helps the volume problem on the phone, although the volume is normal going through bluetooth. Any thoughts other than I'm screwed?

[tensix]

I think this ROM has done something to the in-call volume on my Tilt. Now people are complaining that they can barely hear me. I've security unlocked and changed radios. I've flashed different ROMs (ATT and custom). I've even gone through the process to send it back to ATT under warranty. Nothing helps the volume problem on the phone, although the volume is normal going through bluetooth. Any thoughts other than I'm screwed?

Make sure your microphone is not clogged with pocket fuzz or something.