If you have used Dutty's Hybrid, apr 09 or apr 16 rom, please help me out!

[dockular]

If you've used 2 (or all 3!) of these roms would you mind giving me your brief thoughts on how they compared with one another? I have been using dutty's apr 09 for a few weeks. I love it but need to reflash as it is crashing. I am about to switch to either dutty's apr 27 (once he gets the office mobile kinks worked out) or go to the Hybrid or apr 16 rom since both of those have been receiving great reviews.

However, no one really compares or contrasts his roms. So I am creating this thread to try and get a feel for what the major differences are between those three roms. I have read what is listed on the change logs, but I am talking more about real world every day differences. thank you so much to whoever answers!!

This saves me roughly 24 hours per rom tinkering and figuring out all the quirks myself! thanks 1,000,000!

[JimmyMcGee]

If you've used 2 (or all 3!) of these roms would you mind giving me a brief comparison of the two? I have been using dutty's apr 09 for a few weeks. I love it but need to reflash as it is crashing. I am about to switch to either dutty's apr 27 (once he gets the office mobile kinks worked out) or go to the Hybrid, or apr 16 since both of those have been receiving rave reviews.

I am trying to get a feel for what the major differences are between any of these roms. I can see what is listed on the change logs, but I am wondering about real world every day differences. thank you so much to whoever answers!!

This saves me roughly 24 hours per rom tinkering and figuring out all the quirks myself! thanks 1,000,000!

Sir, Half the Fun Is Trying it for yourself. Different people have different feelings on the same ROM so the only person you can listen to is yourself. Plus I kind of feel like I'd be Spoon Feeding you. Not quite in the Spirit of a Developers Forum.

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[dockular]

Sir, Half the Fun Is Trying it for yourself. Different people have different feelings on the same ROM so the only person you can listen to is yourself. Plus I kind of feel like I'd be Spoon Feeding you. Not quite in the Spirit of a Developers Forum.


It would, however, be in the spirit of being decent to our fellow humankind :) I'm not asking for the stuff thats already been hashed out in the threads, as I have read them all... simply asking if anyone has thoughts about those small idiosyncrasies that can only be identified after thorough use. for instance, which rom "feels" faster, does dutty's apr 16 dialer really make that much a difference between the hybrid dialer...etc.

as much as love dutty's work and using his roms, i honestly don't feel like spending 24 to 48 hours per rom trying to figure out what someone else could easily type in just 90 seconds! not to mention, some people actually enjoy expressing their opinions... heck, that's half of all forum posts!

[f1ip]

well, if the april 9 rls is crashing, why dont you try the april 16 rls.

I dont see as much issues on that as the 2 new ones.

I'm still using april 9 rls and it works fine for me.

[JimmyMcGee]

It would, however, be in the spirit of being decent to our fellow humankind :) I'm not asking for the stuff thats already been hashed out in the threads, as I have read them all... simply asking if anyone has thoughts about those small idiosyncrasies that can only be identified after thorough use. for instance, which rom "feels" faster, does dutty's apr 16 dialer really make that much a difference between the hybrid dialer...etc.

as much as love dutty's work and using his roms, i honestly don't feel like spending 24 to 48 hours per rom trying to figure out what someone else could easily type in just 90 seconds! not to mention, some people actually enjoy expressing their opinions... heck, that's half of all forum posts!

No harm meant my friend. I am still using Apr 9 and my friend Flashed to Apr 16th. I love the Dialer in the 9th has the Call Histroy Right there and all. Seems that the small indosyncrasies 9 Would be the one I would use.

[SH4YD33]

I suggest trying the Hybrid 24mb page pool found in my signature.

[SH4YD33]

Double post..

[SouthernLuke]

I had dialer issues with 4/9, went to 4/16, didn't like the dialer, so installed HTC dialer.

No other significant issues for me.

[xboomer55]

I have tried the 4/9, 4/16 and 4/26 6.1 ROMs from Dutty. 4/9 and 4/16 were based on WM6.1 5.2.19209. 4/16 was a version with fixes to the 4/9 release. Dutty then released a build based on 5.2.400 on 4/26. He has now dropped this version and is going back and optimizing the 4/16 version based on 5.2.19209. Look for his post today about his 5.2.19209 V2 ([Apr 27]Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 V2 Release).

I have not tried the Hybrid and don't plan to so I can't comment. The 4/16 is fast and relativley stable for me at the moment. I will leave one Tilt there for now and put the latest AT&T 6.1 "test" with an alternate radio on my second tilt to get a feel for a (near) commercial ROM.

Dutty is a wild man. If you want to go for a ride, I'd recommend the V2 he is now working and would hazard a guess that it is as good as the 4/16 version with more fixes. This is where he is putting his energy and talent...

[dockular]

haha bragging about two tilts, nice! i actually LOVED the apr 09 release and am considering flashing back to it unless people that tried the hybrid and apr 09 convince me otherwise. some people really swear by the hybrid but i'm not sure how many of them have tried the apr 09 rom!!

I love the apr 09 dialer. what did you guys think as far as page pool sizes? What was your fav?

[mikeymc]

these 2 are what i'm debating on. i like them both. can't really compare them since neither is far superior to the other i don't think. but i like the option of having 3 different pp for the april 9th version. right now i'm waiting on the april 27th and see how that'll improve. i'm using the april 16th right now, but personally i don't like this dialer very much, and sometimes i'm having wifi issues for no apparent reasons.

[redbandana]

I as well loved his 4/9 release. I got bored and tested someone elses v4 rom but it wasn't cutting it. I am now using 4/16 release. I like it a lot and have not had any issuses with it.

However, I wish when an incoming call I could hit the silence button that the april 9th release has.

[dockular]

I as well loved his 4/9 release. I got bored and tested someone elses v4 rom but it wasn't cutting it. I am now using 4/16 release. I like it a lot and have not had any issuses with it.

However, I wish when an incoming call I could hit the silence button that the april 9th release has.

what does apr 16 have instead of silence? which rom did you like more then, apr 9 or 16? apr 16 had a midlet manager right?

[dockular]

these 2 are what i'm debating on. i like them both. can't really compare them since neither is far superior to the other i don't think. but i like the option of having 3 different pp for the april 9th version. right now i'm waiting on the april 27th and see how that'll improve. i'm using the april 16th right now, but personally i don't like this dialer very much, and sometimes i'm having wifi issues for no apparent reasons.

I dont like the apr 16 dialer much at all, very ugly i think. doesn't match the rest of the OS. What were the improvements on the apr 16 one other than the supposed dialer improvement and midlet manager? I am anxious to see how apr 27 rom turns out when he is done. I want to know why everyone says hybrid is so good though!

[redbandana]

I dont like the apr 16 dialer much at all, very ugly i think. doesn't match the rest of the OS. What were the improvements on the apr 16 one other than the supposed dialer improvement and midlet manager? I am anxious to see how apr 27 rom turns out when he is done. I want to know why everyone says hybrid is so good though!

the april 16th dialer does look a little out of place. However, it is the most accurate and quickest dialer i have used. During incoming calls my default left soft key remains, which is the action screen.

[dockular]

most accurate in what respect?

[redbandana]

overall i think 4/9 was my favorite. However, gps works much better with april 16th. But that could be because i didn't have gpsrouter cab installed with 4/9

[redbandana]

most accurate in what respect?

i noticed with some of the dialers if i hit a button it either doesn't respond well or the wrong number appears.But 4/16 hasn't had this issue.

[dockular]

overall i think 4/9 was my favorite. However, gps works much better with april 16th. But that could be because i didn't have gpsrouter cab installed with 4/9

whoa, my apr 09 version SUCKS for gps unless i run quickGPS. it can literally take 10 minutes to get a fix without quickGPS and ive tried a ton of radios. I had no idea this had to with a gpsrouter... i thought that was for more than one application using the GPS at once, or using your phone as a GPS device for 3rd party hardware. No?

Also, i didn't think the rom factored into the GPS performance, only the radio?

[mikeymc]

I dont like the apr 16 dialer much at all, very ugly i think. doesn't match the rest of the OS. What were the improvements on the apr 16 one other than the supposed dialer improvement and midlet manager? I am anxious to see how apr 27 rom turns out when he is done. I want to know why everyone says hybrid is so good though!

despite the "ugliness" this dialer (april 16th) seems to be the most accurate and also work the best. i mean when i'm pressing the buttons on the dial pad, it always shows the correct numbers.
unlike what redbandana says, in CA gps in april 16th version doesn't get a very quick fix, although it could just be the radio issue. but i've been using the same radio for months now, so i still think it's the rom. the difference is minimal. i'm talking maybe a couple of minutes at the most

[redbandana]

whoa, my apr 09 version SUCKS for gps unless i run quickGPS. it can literally take 10 minutes to get a fix without quickGPS and ive tried a ton of radios. I had no idea this had to with a gpsrouter... i thought that was for more than one application using the GPS at once, or using your phone as a GPS device for 3rd party hardware. No?

Also, i didn't think the rom factored into the GPS performance, only the radio?

correct. However, I am using the same radio that i used with 4/9 and i am getting a much better response with 4/16. I get a fix in less than 30 seconds sometimes.

If i am running tomtom here is my operation:

1)download quickgps
2) open gpsrouter and enable 4 baud 4800
3) open gpstest
4) open tomtom

before I had gpsrouter I would sometimes never get a fix.

[dockular]

correct. However, I am using the same radio that i used with 4/9 and i am getting a much better response with 4/16. I get a fix in less than 30 seconds sometimes.

If i am running tomtom here is my operation:

1)download quickgps
2) open gpsrouter and enable 4 baud 4800
3) open gpstest
4) open tomtom

before I had gpsrouter I would sometimes never get a fix.

Hmmm... what exactly does gps router do?

[redbandana]

Hmmm... what exactly does gps router do?

The only thing i can see that it does is open up your gps system. However, ever since i've used the application gps has been working like a charm.

[derylmccarty]

Interesting....I have been using the april 9 ROM for the past 3 weeks or so, and today I woke up my Tilt with a normal ON and, poof, four color screen that would not change no matter soft, hard or battery-removal reset. After that unfortunate crash, 2700 miles from home and from a high speed connection (of course), I went slow speed and dooowwwnnnnloadddded the 19400 version. I flashed new ROM, noncube, and it took ... whew. I am using it joyfully. I now see that the 19400 version is deleted and unsupported (without expanation). My plan is to continue to use the 19400 until I have troubles, in which case I will download and install apr 16 or a new 19400 version is released. I have tried schaps and one other but am happiest with dutty's stuff -as is my Tilt. Though I do admit that I heavily modify with SPB products, mostly because I am into pastel and bright colors not the more popular darks. After 8 hours of use, 19400 is still dead steady stable.

[Poetique]

In all honesty the last dutty rom I thoroughly enjoyed was the Apr. 1 Hybrid release. It's just that it's missing several things that I enjoy having in the Apr. 16 release. If it weren't for that, I'd still be using it.

But as far as quickness and stability goes, I still prefer the Apr. 1 Hybrid.

[dockular]

he discontinued 19400 because that build of windows proved to be unstable, particularly for custom ROMs. read through that thread and you can see why. You might want to upgrade to his release that came out today when he is finished with it. it currently has some bugs with office and tcpmp but im sure he will iron it out soon.

anyone else out there that can compare apr 09 to hybrid? or apr 16?

[dockular]

In all honesty the last dutty rom I thoroughly enjoyed was the Apr. 1 Hybrid release. It's just that it's missing several things that I enjoy having in the Apr. 16 release. If it weren't for that, I'd still be using it.

But as far as quickness and stability goes, I still prefer the Apr. 1 Hybrid.

Can you be more specific please? its the details that I am after :)

[Poetique]

Can you be more specific please? its the details that I am after :)

I don't know how to explain it really. It just seemed like everything "flowed" better. Opening/closing menus was visibly quicker... but other than that it's moreso just how it seemed to just run flawlessly without the hiccups I've encountered with some of the later builds (such a freezing, and one odd occasion in which my touch screen was working, but I couldn't actually start any programs with it, and I had to manually start everything by pressing the buttons).

[kosir]

Use ROM from another cook. Would you buy a car that gets a new version every week and aways have tons of fixes.

[dockular]

haha thats messed up man.

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