[May 4 2008] WM6.1 - 3.0 XDA Live Tilt A(lpha)1 Rom Release!

[kyphur]

Here is the WM6.1 XDA Live Rom!

This Rom is intended for Tilt Owners who want a light version of the Tilt WM6.1 ROM. The default Keyboard will be CWSLayout (Tilt), you are free to change it.

The Base ROM is at&t 3.51.502.0(AKU 1.0.2) Windows Mobile 6.1 Rom.

The initial releases included the first at&t WM6.1 Radio (1.65.14.06).

Starting with Release 3.0 A2 I will not package the Radio so you will need to flash a WM6.1 compatable Radio Rom if you don't already have one installed.

Note that some WM6.1 Radios might not work with this Rom as AT&T has a habit of tying their Radios to their OS Roms since the release of their 1.60 WM6.0 Rom.

It is debranded cosmetically

I have purchased a second Tilt to dedicate to this project.

This release includes:

Registry Tweaks:
* Disable Security Warning for Unsigned Apps & Cabs
* SDK Certificates have been installed
* Enable Assisted GPS
* Disable Sent SMS Notification
* Long Press of RED End Key locks device

Fixes:
* Support UC (User Customization)
* Button 6 & Button 6 (Hold) defined
* Button 6 assigned to MS Voice Command
* Hold Button 6 assigned to Comm Manager

Removed:
* at&t MediaNet & WAP Data Connections
* MS Office Mobile
* WM6 Default Games
* at&t Push To Talk (v3.00 b408.812)
* HTC Quick GPS (v1.00 b220.821)
* jbed Java
* HTC RealPlayer (v1.00 b810.712)
* Acrobat Reader LE (v2.0)
* HTC Zip (v1.20 b730.720)
* HTC Voice Recorder (v1.10 b130.817)
* Sprite Backup HTC Edition (v5.1.0 b1449)
* at&t Dialer (v1.40 b30728)
* HTC Task Manager (v1.51 b33547)
* ALL at&t bloatware
* Calculator
* Windows Update
* Customer Feedback
* HTC Home Today Plug-In (v2.10 b181.337)
* Media Player Today Plug-In (1.00 b 731.714)
* Slider Sounds
* Slider Applet
* Arcsoft MMS Composer (v5.0.31.16)
* Sim Manager (v6.42)
* Sim Toolkit STK crap
* .NET Compact Framework
* HTC Camera Application (v4.08 b30665)

[kyphur]

Registry Tweaks:
* TCP-IP Tweaks
* Enable GPS Data in Photo Data
* Disable In-Call Fast Sleep
* Hide SIM Contacts (yes it sticks!)
* Glyph (GDI/Font) Cache set to Large
* Enabled File System Cache
* Enabled File System Filter Cache
* Disable TouchFLO
* Support Simultaneous BBC & MediaNet Connections

Fixes:
* Camera.exe replaced with a “No Camera Message.exe”.
* ReplaceMe.ini file in the windows folder so you can easily make a cab file that causes soft reset by simply overwriting it.
* Adjust PagePool

Remove:
* Error Reporting
* Following Control Panel Applets (at least hide them)
----> Domain Enroll
----> Managed Programs
* MS Voice Command (v1.6.19209)

Reported Issues:
If you enable the clear type in landscape mode then when viewing Phone Menu in Landscape the text on the tabs does not show.

[kyphur]

MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?f=DSYPVQ7U)

RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/users/SXD41C)

4Shared (http://www.4shared.com/dir/6778007/8b384e5d/XDA_Live_20_Project.html)



XDA Live Wiki Page (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDA-LiveTiltAddonFiles)





Per user requests: Support XDA-Live Tilt Rom Development via PayPal (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=PayPal@Kyphur.org&item_name=XDA-Live%20for%20Tilt&no_shipping=1&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8)...

[KarmaNP]

Indeed a surprise after a long gap!!

Thanks a bunch!!

[korakesion]

Can you please upload another server, like rapidshare or 4shared,megaupload does not work in my country.

Thank you for your hard work..

[andydempsey]

Cool.

Do you have the cab for the MS voice command you removed?

[kyphur]

Voice Command is still in the Rom. I won't remove it until I can include a seperate Cab to put it back in (which will be once a carrier has released a Rom with VC in it)

Cool.

Do you have the cab for the MS voice command you removed?

[korakesion]

1.64.08.21 It does not work with this rom,I did not try it all the WM 6.1 radios with the rom,I prefer 1.64.08.21 radio for good signal reception and battery.Rom is nice and fast...

Thanks again

[65coupei6]

I like this ROM the way it is now. Nice, Clean & Fast. No offense to all the cooks. But, most seem to try and cook to much in. I just rather add items in with a cab.

As for the reg hacks. These can also be added with Advanced Config and KaiserTweak.

Great job!

[kwickone]

Kyphur,

Just flashed and looking good so far. I did notice that the AT&T Connection settings were not there upon flash completion (and a Hard Reset after). Not a biggie, but thought you should know.

Thanks.

[ddevling]

Kyphur, as you may remember, I used and liked your hermes ROMs. I did a flash of this to test and as previous member wrote, I expected the ATT settings to be there. I was also surprised that after flashing with nothing else added, the free program memory was only 56.21 MB. I expected 70+ in free memory.
Not complaining as so far all else is working.
Looking forward to many ROMs from you.
Thanks,

[AllTheWay]

Kyphur,

Just flashed and looking good so far. I did notice that the AT&T Connection settings were not there upon flash completion (and a Hard Reset after). Not a biggie, but thought you should know.

Thanks.

Just use a HTC Network Wizard to find your settings.

http://www.4shared.com/file/39444105/da362d7c/JUVS_HTC_Network_Wizard_KAISER_1_0_29981_1.html?di rPwdVerified=745d7988

Since your an AT&T guy might I suggest you use the ATT Settings.cab below.

[Cab moved to post #2]

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Kyphur this ROM is running good for me, very quick at opening, installing applications. I haven't noticed any issues thus far. Keep up the great work!!!

[irockash]

Man, while waiting for my battery to get to 50% so I can flash the latest HyperDragon, I stumble upon this.

One thing though, has anyone tried Sakajati's page pool changers?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2131301&postcount=3

They're based on Dutty's fix, might just make it extra easy to change, or play around with different PPs.

Thanks!

[kwickone]

Just use a HTC Network Wizard to find your settings.

http://www.4shared.com/file/39444105/da362d7c/JUVS_HTC_Network_Wizard_KAISER_1_0_29981_1.html?di rPwdVerified=745d7988

Since your an AT&T guy might I suggest you use the ATT Settings.cab below.

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Kyphur this ROM is running good for me, very quick at opening, installing applications. I haven't noticed any issues thus far. Keep up the great work!!!

Thanks ATW, that is exactly what I did (thus my "no biggie" comment). I guess I should have mentioned that in my post ;)

I think I even found the cab in either your (or P1Tater's) downloads.

Thanks much.

[kyphur]

That will get adjusted once I start messing with the PagePool. I've got the info and will do it this week (as soon as my Development Tilt arrives)

Kyphur, as you may remember, I used and liked your hermes ROMs. I did a flash of this to test and as previous member wrote, I expected the ATT settings to be there. I was also surprised that after flashing with nothing else added, the free program memory was only 56.21 MB. I expected 70+ in free memory.
Not complaining as so far all else is working.
Looking forward to many ROMs from you.
Thanks,

[kyphur]

That's by design as not all Tilts are used with AT&T.

Kyphur, as you may remember, I used and liked your hermes ROMs. I did a flash of this to test and as previous member wrote, I expected the ATT settings to be there. I was also surprised that after flashing with nothing else added, the free program memory was only 56.21 MB. I expected 70+ in free memory.
Not complaining as so far all else is working.
Looking forward to many ROMs from you.
Thanks,

[JimmyMcGee]

This looks like one worth giving a shot.

I have uploaded the File to my 4Shared (http://www.4shared.com/file/45690557/b9198149/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-20a_WWE_3515020_2581_4002H_1651406_UC.html)of anyone else wants to grab it. However, there are a lot of options for downloading it.

[zaharakis]

i'm cheking the rom and is the ""ultimate lite"" rom :D

i found a bug ...

when you enable the clear type in landscape mode with kaiser tweak or shaps advanced configuration tool, all the letters of any tabs when you viewing phones menu in landscape...are dissapears ;)

just don't use this registry setting and everything is ok ;)

by the way the rom is really fast !! good work !

[GSLEON3]

For Pagepool, if it is default, sakajati has created a tool to easily change the PP. But it will only work if the PP is the default size. It is Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2131301&highlight=kais_pp_18.exe#post2131301

ALSO!!! You've included this radio, have you found a way to allow it to be overwritten? Or am I mistaken & this is a different radio?

[kwickone]

For Pagepool, if it is default, sakajati has created a tool to easily change the PP. But it will only work if the PP is the default size. It is Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2131301&highlight=kais_pp_18.exe#post2131301

ALSO!!! You've included this radio, have you found a way to allow it to be overwritten? Or am I mistaken & this is a different radio?

GSLEON3, this is not the infamous "cannot remove" radio :D. Thank goodness!

[P1Tater]

@ kyphur

As soon as I solve some pretty major issues with my phone, I will be chomping at the bits to flash this one. Nice work man. Can't wait to flash once again.

[kyphur]

Okay guys, I've flashed all four PagePools to my device (man I can't wait for the Development one to arrive tomorrow). Here is how it shifts the memory:



| 12MB pp | 16MB pp | 18MB pp | 24MB pp |
Physical_RAM_(in_MB)___________|___97.98_|___97.98 _|___97.98_|___97.98_|
Kernel Prealloc. | 0.21 | 0.21 | 0.21 | 0.21 |
Paging_Pool__________________|___12.05 |___16.06_|___18.07_|___24.09_|
Kernel RAM Map | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Watson Size | 0.13 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 0.13 |
Overhead | 0.02 | 0.02 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Object Store | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.25 |
Program_Memory_______________|___85.32_|___81.30_| ___79.30_|___73.28_|
__AVAILABLE_PROGRAM_MEMORY___|___56.20_|___51.83_| ___49.86_|___43.75_|
__USED_PROGRAM_MEMORY________|___29.13_|___29.47_| ___29.45_|___29.53_|
Kernel Objects | 1.71 | 1.72 | 1.71 | 1.71 |
Misc | 0.39 | 0.40 | 0.40 | 0.40 |
Programs | 27.02 | 27.35 | 27.34 | 27.42 |
(S) Stack | 1.84 | 1.86 | 1.86 | 1.82 |
(H) Heap | 6.83 | 6.89 | 6.90 | 7.02 |
(E) EXE Data | 1.09 | 1.09 | 1.09 | 1.09 |
(D) DLL Data | 9.75 | 9.79 | 9.79 | 9.79 |
(W) Read/Write RAM | 7.50 | 7.72 | 7.69 | 7.69 |
Process | 5.48 | 5.48 | 5.48 | 5.48 |
Map/Shared | 2.02 | 2.25 | 2.21 | 2.21 |

I included everything that reports above Zero.

So, lets start talking PagePool, where do you guys want it? I've heard that 18 is a sweet spot so that's what I'm testing right now.

[GSLEON3]

I personally find that 16mb PP works well.

[ChaOConnor]

I'm a fan of 18, seems to be the best trade off for me.

[kyphur]

I tried to duplicate this to no avail.

Enabled, disabled... Rinse & repeat several times. Never saw anything missing.

Could you please post some screenshots.

Also, can anyone else confirm this?

i'm cheking the rom and is the ""ultimate lite"" rom :D

i found a bug ...

when you enable the clear type in landscape mode with kaiser tweak or shaps advanced configuration tool, all the letters of any tabs when you viewing phones menu in landscape...are dissapears ;)

just don't use this registry setting and everything is ok ;)

by the way the rom is really fast !! good work !

[zaharakis]

I tried to duplicate this to no avail.

Enabled, disabled... Rinse & repeat several times. Never saw anything missing.

Could you please post some screenshots.

Also, can anyone else confirm this?

i'm trying now another rom,but i have a full backup of your rom, with my all stuff i usually use in any roms i try:)

so after finishing this setup i reflash your rom/restore and give you some screenshots ;)

Dimitris :)

[AllTheWay]

I tried to duplicate this to no avail.

Enabled, disabled... Rinse & repeat several times. Never saw anything missing.

Could you please post some screenshots.

Also, can anyone else confirm this?

Yes I also got this error. When I used KaiserTweak or Schap's Advanced config to use cleartype in landscape the menu items would do the same thing. Had to re-flash the rom to correct the problem.

I also have another question. When I look at my available memory it says I have 85.57 available memory showing. Is this how it supposed to be? I remember the default PP would give you 101.XX mb of free memory. Anybody else seeing this as well.

[zaharakis]

Yes I also got this error. When I used KaiserTweak or Schap's Advanced config to use cleartype in landscape the menu items would do the same thing. Had to re-flash the rom to correct the problem.

I also have another question. When I look at my available memory it says I have 85.57 available memory showing. Is this how it supposed to be? I remember the default PP would give you 101.XX mb of free memory. Anybody else seeing this as well.

this thing make me throw away any new Dutty's rom.....it's sucks for me and i don't like it at all :mad:

i don't like that my kaiser after cold boot has only 52 to 55mb only free available ram....

i'm trying now ""hyper draggon IIs"" rom and is a little (but very little)slower than xda's live 2.0 and after cold boot has 73mb free ram...

and no tweaks in cash or glyph to work faster but only in default values ...
the same exactly and in claudyfa's sv4 soft bank rom...(this rom is a bit slower from hyper dragon but still is stable and fast)

i'll give a shot again in xda's live 2.0 because is the faster rom i've ever try in my kaiser ;)

[kyphur]

See my chart a few posts up. Looks like we're short about 16mb of RAM which would be something allocated either my MS or HTC prior to us getting our hands on it.

So yes you're right I don't didn't look at this with any of the other WM6.1 Roms though.

I also have another question. When I look at my available memory it says I have 85.57 available memory showing. Is this how it supposed to be? I remember the default PP would give you 101.XX mb of free memory. Anybody else seeing this as well.

[kyphur]

Here are the Registry Tweaks that are coming in v2.0a1 as a Cab File.

Imagine this Rom, these Tweaks and a 18mb PagePool (Program Memory starts at 79.30mb)... That's what you'll have is a few days!

and no tweaks in cash or glyph to work faster but only in default values ...

i'll give a shot again in xda's live 2.0 because is the faster rom i've ever try in my kaiser ;)


[Cab File Moved to Post #2]

[XtreMe_G]

i noticed that this rom was quite zippy graphics wise, and one thing that caught my attention was that s2u2 was running in directdraw mode. so i did some graphics benchmark......

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8910/spblz9.jpg

i can only find benchmarks to dutty's apr 1st rom here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2068100&postcount=1). Comparing the results, the DIB BitBit and GAPI BitBit are almost similar (40.5 and 625 fps), but the DDB BitBit is more than 3 times from dutty's rom. So i thought maybe because this is a light rom and that's why its doing so well, so i install all my usual apps and one hour later ran the benchmarks again, and this is what i got

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7682/spb2mw0.jpg

just about the same. Could this AT&T rom have the "fix" that HTC promised us?

[AllTheWay]

Wow Excellent comparison.

I noticed this ROM to be very fast as well. Programs open and close so fast. The device is really responsive. Liking the lite version, but as you said even after loading all my apps I did not see a reduction in performance. Since I am stuck with this radio (1.65.17.10) at least for a while, it's not such a horrible thing that it works on this ROM. With this only being the alpha version, I can't wait to see the finished product. I wait for with much anticipation. Great job Kyphur.

[zaharakis]

Here are the Registry Tweaks that are coming in v2.0a1 as a Cab File.

Imagine this Rom, these Tweaks and a 18mb PagePool (Program Memory starts at 79.30mb)... That's what you'll have is a few days!

free for user 79mb ??:eek:in one package with this -extremely- speed???:eek:

if it's true my friend kyphur,you just found your bigger fan :D:D

[zaharakis]

Wow Excellent comparison.

I noticed this ROM to be very fast as well. Programs open and close so fast. The device is really responsive. Liking the lite version, but as you said even after loading all my apps I did not see a reduction in performance. Since I am stuck with this radio (1.65.17.10) at least for a while, it's not such a horrible thing that it works on this ROM. With this only being the alpha version, I can't wait to see the finished product. I wait for with much anticipation. Great job Kyphur.

this rom is the fastest rom i've ever tryed in my kaiser !!and the more responcive one !!
i have some programs starting (about 10) in cold boot and is working very fast as the rom responce after hard reset ;)

the only issue that i don't like at all is the small free ram who gives you.....

so i'm waiting for the new one that Kyphur says :)

[TeDeV]

i told u that xda-live was much better than the other "official" nothrills rom, but noooo :D

zaharaki oeo

[zaharakis]

i told u that xda-live was much better than the other "official" nothrills rom, but noooo :D

zaharaki oeo

wait ted to see the a1 that Kyphur says;)

if it's so(i've no reason don't beleive him)we'll have the best rom ever for our kaisers:)

[zaharakis]

kyphur i have an answer..

can i install any netcf 3.5 in this rom?

in your first xad live i had issues with this....and some apps doesn't work with no compact framework installed ...:confused:

[kyphur]

I have .Net CF 3.5 installed, remember that some programs might need earlier versions of .Net. You cna have multiple versions installed.

Also, regarding the memory, with 18mb pp you start with just shy of 80mb program memory but only 50mb is free. Either MS or HTC has taken 16mb and allocated it for other uses (system level). That could be part of the speed increase over the other WM6.1 Base Roms.

I'm not really sure we need to mess with the pp on this one but I don't mind spending 6mb (like we realy need more than 50mb of program memory anyway) to get an additional boost.

can i install any netcf 3.5 in this rom?

in your first xad live i had issues with this....and some apps doesn't work with no compact framework installed ...:confused:

[zaharakis]

I have .Net CF 3.5 installed, remember that some programs might need earlier versions of .Net. You cna have multiple versions installed.

Also, regarding the memory, with 18mb pp you start with just shy of 80mb program memory but only 50mb is free. Either MS or HTC has taken 16mb and allocated it for other uses (system level). That could be part of the speed increase over the other WM6.1 Base Roms.

I'm not really sure we need to mess with the pp on this one but I don't mind spending 6mb (like we realy need more than 50mb of program memory anyway) to get an additional boost.

thanks for fast reply :)

i'm waiting for your new release ;)

but if there is no problem in working progresses of ppc,i don't care if finally the free ram is so small,when my pda is working fast and stable :)

but is traumatic experience :D to see so small free ram in my pda...

regards

[kyphur]

I guess you never had a Blue Angel or Wizard - 18mb to 22mb of Free Ram, tweaked cooked Rom might reach 27mb!

but is traumatic experience :D to see so small free ram in my pda...

regards

[zaharakis]

I guess you never had a Blue Angel or Wizard - 18mb to 22mb of Free Ram, tweaked cooked Rom might reach 27mb!

ofcourse i had:)

qtec s200,htc 3300,htc 3600,hermes (htc TyTN) and i know about that :D

but with kaiser is different...you know that ram is 128mb and usually you have up to 70mb free for use ;) so when i see 50-55mb free.....i'm scaring :D

[P1Tater]

Just thought I'd post a mirror even though I cant flash any roms right now.


ROM MIRROR (http://www.4shared.com/file/45782816/fe9fd516/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-20a_WWE_3515020_2581_4002H_1651406_UC.html)

[kyphur]

Click Here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389017) for my new "True Page Pool Patcher".

Developed & tested on the XDA Live Tilt 2.0a Rom but it will work with any Kaiser Rom that follows the same PP definition!

[kyphur]

Anyone using UC to move links in their Start Menu?

I can't seem to get it working right. Now I've never used UC before this Rom but so far I'm installing 40 Cabs and adding folders to my Start Menu.

If I add xml to move links it doesn't work.

I did notice that now when you manually move links on the start menu you get a system warning message (as if it's a system file).

[sherpa]

Dang, I really want to try this ROM but I've always had SOD with XDA Live ROMs. :( I will give it a try again this weekend. *fingers crossed* :)

[andydempsey]

Slight problem - reboots to a "you must sync" screen and non-responsive buttons (and non-responsive sync!).

BUT, it is being caused by the HTC home version I use, probably the wrong one (hermes 2.0a or something like that).

I need a HTC home version that I can easily customize the cities for. My last rom was Duttys 4/19, but the home there would not let me add any cities the way I used to.

Any recommendation as to the version of home I need?

[akadonny]

Anyone using UC to move links in their Start Menu?

I can't seem to get it working right. Now I've never used UC before this Rom but so far I'm installing 40 Cabs and adding folders to my Start Menu.

If I add xml to move links it doesn't work.

I did notice that now when you manually move links on the start menu you get a system warning message (as if it's a system file).

I think the easiest way is to move the existing links in your start menu first with a provxml since 6 items is max. I think the ones there by default are

Calendar.lnk
Contacts.lnk
Messaging.lnk
Phone.lnk
Tasks.lnk
Winows Media.lnk

You would need something like:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE17%\Windows Media.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Delete">
<parm name="ForceDelete"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="%CE11%" translation="install">
<characteristic type="MakeDir" />
<characteristic type="Windows Media.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Copy">
<parm name="Source" value="\Windows\WMPlayer.lnk" translation="install" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

That's taken from mxipupdate_office_100.provxml in \SYS\Office.

[sirooga]

Mirror with 32mbPP already patched. (http://www.4shared.com/file/45828113/557f5006/KAISIMG_XDA-Live-20a_WWE_3515020_32MB-PP_UC.html)

[kyphur]

So how is it with 32mb PP?

Mirror with 32mbPP already patched. (http://www.4shared.com/file/45828113/557f5006/KAISIMG_XDA-Live-20a_WWE_3515020_32MB-PP_UC.html)

[sirooga]

So far so good. Still setting up my device...Haven't fully figured out the UC thing yet so have to manually do a bunch of registrations and stuff.

[rallaster]

Freakin' Sweet! Just flashed this ROM with 18MB PP and my mem stats are:

Storage:
total 167.90
In Use 19.68
Free 148.22

Program:
Total 79.30
In Use 37.05
Free 42.25

And this is after I loaded approx. 9 apps. This ROM is BLAZING!!! xtremely fast screen/proggy load times. I haven't had the opportunity to do extensive testing but I will tonight and post tomorrow my own XP


UPDATE: I'm having problems with the camera not being found, and I can't find it in the /windows folder. I'm assuming its a radio problem so I will try that and go from there.

[JimmyMcGee]

Anyone using UC to move links in their Start Menu?

I can't seem to get it working right. Now I've never used UC before this Rom but so far I'm installing 40 Cabs and adding folders to my Start Menu.

If I add xml to move links it doesn't work.

I did notice that now when you manually move links on the start menu you get a system warning message (as if it's a system file).

So if it gives you a System Warning, You'll need to Respond to that. So before the Move Try...

LOCK:Disabled
CPY1:*blah blah*
CPY2:*Blah blah*
LOCK:Enabled

[PsyberEMT]

Anyone getting a security / certification warning when trying to run either HHC or advanced config? Some apps seem to work and others dont. Flashed, hard reset, installed the registry edit cab, soft reset, installed AC and HHC, neither runs, i get the error like the device is app locked...ideas??

[XtreMe_G]

did you install .net cf?

[kimtyson]

Over the past week I have flashed at least eight Roms. Almost all of them had issues of some sort. I was really looking for something lite so I could add only the proggies I want. This XDA Live Rom is awesome. Thank you very much Kyphur. Looking forward to future work from you.

[65coupei6]

Dang, I really want to try this ROM but I've always had SOD with XDA Live ROMs. :( I will give it a try again this weekend. *fingers crossed* :)

I also always had SOD with the previous XDA ROMs. But, NOT this one :)

It works great!!

[Isaygarcia]

does this rom have the drivers?!?!?!

[65coupei6]

UPDATE: I'm having problems with the camera not being found, and I can't find it in the /windows folder. I'm assuming its a radio problem so I will try that and go from there.

That's because the camera is not installed :)

Check here for verions 4 & 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2156131&postcount=3

[PsyberEMT]

did you install .net cf?

*in my best homer simpson voice*

DOH!

*Dunks another donut into the mug of Duff beer balanced on his belly* lol :D

[kyphur]

Okay guys, I know I need to finish cleaning-up the registry files but can anyone see where I've left some useless files in the Rom?

I also will spend time hunting down removing the stupid control panel applets for "Managed Programs" & "Domain Enroll".

Finally I might go ahead and chanse down the dll I'll need to give everyone the "Band Selection" tab in Phone Settings.

So what is left?

spb Backup can't read the *.vol databases in the root of the device, weird...

I've noticed that Card Export II doesn't work with this build of WM6.1, was going to contact the guys at softick about that before wasting my own time to chase down their problem.

Oh yeah, anyone else notice that CorePlayer QTV support doesn't work with this Base? Between that & the fact that Direct Draw seems to actually work I'd say they did something to the Video System in this build.

As soon as there is a Shipped WM6.1 Device with Voice Command on it then VC will become a Cab (already got it ready to go thanks to adaDonny).

Is there any other software removed that you guys need as Cab files?

Almost feels like I wasted $$ getting a "Development Tilt", this is going to fast!

[XtreMe_G]

here' the phonesetting.dll i got from dutty's apr 1st rom, and the band selection works fine

[kyphur]

Thanks, saved me a little time hunting it down.

2.0a1 will have Band Selection Tab...

here' the phonesetting.dll i got from dutty's apr 1st rom, and the band selection works fine

[65coupei6]

Same here! I just used the PP Changer. 18mb pp is very quick and has great mem.

Freakin' Sweet! Just flashed this ROM with 18MB PP and my mem stats are:

Storage:
total 167.90
In Use 19.68
Free 148.22

Program:
Total 79.30
In Use 37.05
Free 42.25

And this is after I loaded approx. 9 apps. This ROM is BLAZING!!! xtremely fast screen/proggy load times. I haven't had the opportunity to do extensive testing but I will tonight and post tomorrow my own XP

[rallaster]

That's because the camera is not installed :)

Check here for verions 4 & 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2156131&postcount=3



Dammit! I knew I was missing something. Checking it now, glad I checked the thread B4 flashing a new radio.

Doesn't seem like I can get anything done. Time is almost as precious as fuel here lately.

[xboomer55]

...Oh yeah, anyone else notice that CorePlayer QTV support doesn't work with this Base? Between that & the fact that Direct Draw seems to actually work I'd say they did something to the Video System in this build.


Yes. I see the same. However, 320x240 H.264 podcasts (NBC Nightly News for example) play OK with the latest Coreplayer using DirectDraw on this ROM. Average speed is benchmarking below 100% but dropped frames aren't really that noticeable. These vids won't play via DirectDraw on anything I've ever used prior to this ROM (video is a slow slideshow). Coreplayer with QTV support was the only solution (and a good one!)

On a second tilt with one of dutty's April builds, I could not get meaningful Coreplayer benchmarking scores using DirectDraw and the same H.264 content. No video output and the benchmark seems to be audio only.

Anyway, this appears to be a remarkable improvement for DirectDraw! Too bad the QTV support is missing. It would be nice to get that back as well!

[rallaster]

IDK if anyone has had this pob, but I've been running this ROM for about 24 hrs now, and the Today screen has locked up on me 3 times. Is this a problem that is isolated to me or are there others that are having this problem as well.

I have done several hard resets with no improvement on this issue. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why its locking up, and the only way to get out of it is to soft reset. Any help would be appreciated, this rom is fast and slick, and I would hate to have to give it up, but if I can't resolve the issue I just might have to.

[kyphur]

What plugins are you using?


IDK if anyone has had this pob, but I've been running this ROM for about 24 hrs now, and the Today screen has locked up on me 3 times. Is this a problem that is isolated to me or are there others that are having this problem as well.

I have done several hard resets with no improvement on this issue. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why its locking up, and the only way to get out of it is to soft reset. Any help would be appreciated, this rom is fast and slick, and I would hate to have to give it up, but if I can't resolve the issue I just might have to.

[rallaster]

The only today plugin I'm using is HTC Homeplug 9 icon and the standard one line date/time. I've also installed the 2.0a1 reg tweaks as well as the camera and ATT settings cabs.

Thanks for the fast reply, I really hope this is just a fluke and we can get it fixed or it will work itself out.

[kyphur]

For Gits & Shiggles, disable the HTC Homeplugin and see if the behavior continues.

There's been another report of a different version of HTC Homeplugin causing problems.

The only today plugin I'm using is HTC Homeplug 9 icon and the standard one line date/time. I've also installed the 2.0a1 reg tweaks as well as the camera and ATT settings cabs.

Thanks for the fast reply, I really hope this is just a fluke and we can get it fixed or it will work itself out.

[rallaster]

Ok, I'll give it a shot. On the same note, I might do a hard reset and not install any of my apps and run it for 24HRS and see if that fixes it. If no problems I'll start to add apps 1 at a time and see what happens.

[Palmore]

I've been very happy with this ROM thus far.

I've used XDA live 1 since the day it was released and never looked back... Until now that is lol

I was working on cooking my own ROM, but that fell off once I found out you were making XDA live 2.0. I wanted to say THANKS!

Thus far, I've only seen issues again with the QTV video in CorePlayer, Using DirectDraw seems sub-par compaired to WM6.0 and the QTV Driver.
DirectDraw on this build has produced alot fo tearing, latency and over all choppyness lol.

I've found the QTV Display Driver still provides the best video in terms of latency, though I do get alot of Vertical Tearing. I'll have to play with some of the other settings and see if I can't resolve it inside CorePlayer.


Aside from that, the only other issue I'm having is with the Camera.
I've installed .net CF 3.5 as well as 5.0.4.2915 of the Camera app. I've created a link to the camera in my \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory.
But when I hit tha camera button (linked to Camera in the Button menu) it fails saying the link does not exist, and when I manually load the camera app it fails saying the Cert is either not signed, or the app is missing part of the program itself.

I have yet to try version 4.x of the Camera app, that will be my next path... I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue?



Thanks!

[kyphur]

Make sure you are using the Camera cab from my rapidshare folder. There are a few versions of th ecamera floating around so I put the exact cab I use in my RS Folder.

Aside from that, the only other issue I'm having is with the Camera.
I've installed .net CF 3.5 as well as 5.0.4.2915 of the Camera app. I've created a link to the camera in my \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory.
But when I hit tha camera button (linked to Camera in the Button menu) it fails saying the link does not exist, and when I manually load the camera app it fails saying the Cert is either not signed, or the app is missing part of the program itself.

I have yet to try version 4.x of the Camera app, that will be my next path... I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue?



Thanks!

[rallaster]

I've been very happy with this ROM thus far.

I've used XDA live 1 since the day it was released and never looked back... Until now that is lol

I was working on cooking my own ROM, but that fell off once I found out you were making XDA live 2.0. I wanted to say THANKS!

Thus far, I've only seen issues again with the QTV video in CorePlayer, Using DirectDraw seems sub-par compaired to WM6.0 and the QTV Driver.
DirectDraw on this build has produced alot fo tearing, latency and over all choppyness lol.

I've found the QTV Display Driver still provides the best video in terms of latency, though I do get alot of Vertical Tearing. I'll have to play with some of the other settings and see if I can't resolve it inside CorePlayer.


Aside from that, the only other issue I'm having is with the Camera.
I've installed .net CF 3.5 as well as 5.0.4.2915 of the Camera app. I've created a link to the camera in my \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory.
But when I hit tha camera button (linked to Camera in the Button menu) it fails saying the link does not exist, and when I manually load the camera app it fails saying the Cert is either not signed, or the app is missing part of the program itself.

I have yet to try version 4.x of the Camera app, that will be my next path... I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue?



Thanks!


I have the 5.0.4.2915 camera app installed and I don't have any probs with it, and all I did was install it.

[Palmore]

Make sure you are using the Camera cab from my rapidshare folder. There are a few versions of th ecamera floating around so I put the exact cab I use in my RS Folder.

That did it, I was using Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00, The camera now functions as it should!

My last issue aside from the CorePlayer video is World Card, when hitting the capture button to bring up the camera, it errors out saying the Handle is Invalid, I'm assuming the Camera App 4.x is only supported and not 5.x

Now that I have pretty much everything back to how I like it... time to start diggin in and seeing if I can help locate anything else that can be cleaned out =)


Thanks again for a GREAT ROM!

[kyphur]

Yep, if you want WorldCard you have to stick with the 4.x Camera.

That did it, I was using Nadavi_HTC_Camera_5_0_4_2915_00, The camera now functions as it should!

My last issue aside from the CorePlayer video is World Card, when hitting the capture button to bring up the camera, it errors out saying the Handle is Invalid, I'm assuming the Camera App 4.x is only supported and not 5.x

Now that I have pretty much everything back to how I like it... time to start diggin in and seeing if I can help locate anything else that can be cleaned out =)


Thanks again for a GREAT ROM!

[waffle418]

Kyphur,

Love the rom. Just wanted to let you know that while using the NIKI Radio 1.58.16.27 and this rom that if you changed the volume while in call all sound would stop coming from the phone. I switched back to the radio you packaged and it stopped happening. Wasn't the NIKI radio from a 6.1?

[rallaster]

I think I have my today screen issue figured out. I used Kyphur's Page pool patcher and set my Page pool to 18MB, which left me with 42-ishMB free RAM, and when I would open a program use it and then close it it wasn't really closing, just minimizing. During a today screen freeze last night I was able to get to the memory screen, and see how much RAM I had free. Holy cow, .02MB free program memory with Goddess knows how many open programs. I soft resetted, installed the HTC task manager, soft resetted again and voila! I ran it to hell and back and it never missed a beat. So I'm thinking that the "X" button isn't exactly closing the programs, atleast it wasn't for me, but I got it fixed. Hope this helps anyone thats having a similar issue.

[waffle418]

With the hold the end key to device lock, is there a way to change that to a different setting, i.e., I like to use S2U2 while locking my phone and was wondering if I could set it to do that.

[XtreMe_G]

create a link to s2u2, and then rename it to Long_End.lnk and place in the \windows subdirectory

[dyetheskin]

great! I've been hoping for a new release of the xda-live rom. can't wait to flash

[kyphur]

The [X]button DOES NOT close programs by default. You need to install something like Quick Menu, iLauncher, HandySwitcher, HTC X-Button/Task Manager etc {basically a program which adds that functionality}.

So I'm thinking that the "X" button isn't exactly closing the programs, atleast it wasn't for me, but I got it fixed. Hope this helps anyone thats having a similar issue.

[dyetheskin]

be great if just the nbh was linked so some of us can just download and flash from storage card

[PsyberEMT]

After an *unrelated* warranty exchange on my old tilt, reflashed this ROM, got everything set up, and..well...wow. I'm convinced this ROM has phone-crack in it...never used any PDA phone that was as responsive. The video is definately improved..even with a full screen, rotation is instant, and is one unit..not a square here and there, haven't experienced any odd behavior, resets, lockups, etc. Great job Kyphur :cool:

[Isaygarcia]

does this rom support TyTN II??...
i want try it...

How do you make the operator settings cab???

[neva dinova]

is anyone having problems with wifi i can connect but i cant down load im on tmobile usa and have a tilt any help would be appreciated

[kyphur]

Easy, change the extension of the installer from .exe to .rar then you can open it with Winrar and pull out the nbh file.

be great if just the nbh was linked so some of us can just download and flash from storage card

[kyphur]

does this rom support TyTN II??...
i want try it...
While this Rom is based on a Tilt Operator Rom and is geared towards Tilt owners there are TyTN II Users using it, be sure to get the TyTTN II Keyboard cab from post #3...
How do you make the operator settings cab???
I refer you to this thread: ROM Flashing Junkies: User Customization is here! (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337)lots of good info in there, also you might want to try searching the forum, there are already Settings cabs for many Operators posted in various sections of the forum, these are usually device independant.

[Isaygarcia]

lol yes after the question i made i started to search and found what i was looking for xD.. but thanks anyways.. and i flashed it trying right now!

[zaharakis]

kyphur when will you release the a1 version you told us?
regards Dimitris

[ehsanuetian]

Dear Kyphur! May I use this Rom on HTC Tytn II? with which changes?:(

[shadowlabs9]

Dear Kyphur! May I use this Rom on HTC Tytn II? with which changes?:(

Hi,

Did you read post 87... ?

cheers

[kyphur]

I'm running 2.0a1 right now (flashed it a 5am this morning CST)

Unless I run into some issues I'll release it tomorrow evening.

kyphur when will you release the a1 version you told us?
regards Dimitris

[zaharakis]

good news:)

thanks:)

[kyphur]

Even though I've changed the name slightly this is the next version of the rom.

There is no Radio in this Rom.

Here is what's new...

* The tweaks are built-in. (no need for the cab file)
* Simuletanous Connections (for BB Support)
* Band selection & disable data on suspend tabs in phone settings.
* Task Manager shortcut exists (but it's not in Settings).
* SIM Manager is gone.
* Several misc small files are removed.
* AT&T Start-up Animation is disabled.
* 18mb Page Pool.
* Rom Date is May 4 2008.

I renamed the Rom because my Page Pool Patcher can now modify the Rom Version that displays during the boot process but you can't change the first number (3) so I renumber and reordered the name so it can list there!

GO TO POST #3 for the Download folders (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2156131&postcount=3)

[f1ip]

here's a mirror:

RUU Tilt 3 0 XDA Live A1 No Radio (http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles/Roms/XDA/RUU_Tilt_3.0-XDA-Live-A1_No-Radio.exe)

[sirooga]

So I'm finding that this ROM like just about every other ROM that has Arcsoft MMS removed and then installed with a cab breaks the video MMS. You are unable to view videos sent to you inside of Arcsoft, and must save and play in WMP or CP. It seems to work just fine on any ROM that has it preinstalled. Something gets broken in the process of removal and cab installation. Any chance you can leave Arcsoft in the next version to see if it fixes this issue? It may even be more difficult and be related to something else that you have removed. The new PDAViet has it working right away for comparison.

[neva dinova]

i still cant get wifi working i have tried different proxy settings different radios
and still cant get it working can anyone please give me some insight i would really love to have this rom but not without wifi

[atsitalian]

i still cant get wifi working i have tried different proxy settings different radios
and still cant get it working can anyone please give me some insight i would really love to have this rom but not without wifi

WIFI working fine for me using radio 1.65.14.06

[xcsdm]

Kyphur:

I can't remember where I saw it, but I think I remember you saying that this ROM would be ROM Chef friendly. So.

Is this rom Chef friendly?

XC

[kyphur]

Yes it is,

Feel free to crack it open and have a look around or even recook it.

BTW, PagePool Patcher v1.2 is getting released in minutes!

Kyphur:

I can't remember where I saw it, but I think I remember you saying that this ROM would be ROM Chef friendly. So.

Is this rom Chef friendly?

XC

[kimtyson]

WIFI working fine for me using radio 1.65.14.06

Works for me, too. Radio 1.64.08.21

[xcsdm]

I love you man!

[daigoro64]

Kyphur, thank so much for this gift!

Could you please tell us if video calls are supported?

Have a nice day.

[kyphur]

No, you should be able to install a Video Enabled Dialer though.

Kyphur, thank so much for this gift!

Could you please tell us if video calls are supported?

Have a nice day.

[SH4YD33]

No, you should be able to install a Video Enabled Dialer though.

So does this mean new roms will be released since this is Alpha?

[kyphur]

Yes,

I'm awaiting feedback from users regarding anything I might have missed.

The Rom is operational, zippy & smells good too but I don't use everything out there so I need to know if other users experience issues so I can chase them down and make corrections.

So does this mean new roms will be released since this is Alpha?

[Cyb_loki]

Kyphur, I really like this Rom but noticed that when using CorePlayer or tcpmp too watch movies the quality is crystal clear but the video patches/splits in the middle quite frequently and I believe its related to the video driver but not sure. Do you know of any settings to correct this? Is anyone else having the same issue?

[kyphur]

Even though I purchased CorePlayer, I'm not a Video Watcher with my Kaiser. Sorry, if you guys who do watch video find this to be a consistant issue and figure out a fix that can be cooked in I'll add it for you.

Kyphur, I really like this Rom but noticed that when using CorePlayer or tcpmp too watch movies the quality is crystal clear but the video patches/splits in the middle quite frequently and I believe its related to the video driver but not sure. Do you know of any settings to correct this? Is anyone else having the same issue?

[Palmore]

Even though I purchased CorePlayer, I'm not a Video Watcher with my Kaiser. Sorry, if you guys who do watch video find this to be a consistant issue and figure out a fix that can be cooked in I'll add it for you.

I've had the same issues with CorePlayer 1.2.2 build 3852, I've dorked with all the settings, still find the the QTV driver is best, with DirectDraw in 2nd. But ya, vertical tearing like crazy in the fast paced scenes etc... I haven't dug into it much other than that.

I also think I'm having issues with several of the apps I've loaded on the top of this ROM, and lately have been having lock up issues.
Or horrible latency switching apps, with the touch screen, and even typing txt msgs (where it can take 3 minutes to type out one sentence)

[kyphur]

Please be more specific than "Several Apps".

What apps have you installed?

Which one are giving you problems?

Do you still experience the latency issues if you Hard Reset and don't install anything? Try texting before you install your apps.

Also, note that there will be some software that doesn't play nice with WM6.1. I know that CardExportII has issues and CorePlayer while it works seems to behave differently in WM6.1.

I also think I'm having issues with several of the apps I've loaded on the top of this ROM, and lately have been having lock up issues.
Or horrible latency switching apps, with the touch screen, and even typing txt msgs (where it can take 3 minutes to type out one sentence)

[RizwanKhan]

Kyphur appreciate your hard work ...
just the wait for final version is killing me :)
hopefully it will be soon.
Good luck and thanks ;)

[kyphur]

We're better than 90% there...

Get set-up with UC and go ahead...

Kyphur appreciate your hard work ...
just the wait for final version is killing me :)
hopefully it will be soon.
Good luck and thanks ;)

[kyphur]

Guys,

Please don't clutter the thread with public responses to this...

My grandfather passed away earlier today. This will affect release dates but I'll make the impact minimal.

I have a minor patch version, 3.0 A(lpha)2, just about ready to go and hope to put it in your hands no later than Thursday.

After that I expect it will be at least a week before any futher updates can be ready. If there are enough issues reported I will try to have fixes ready no later than May 18th.

[msharaf]

Guys,

Please don't clutter the thread with public responses to this...

My grandfather passed away earlier today. This will affect release dates but I'll make the impact minimal.

I have a minor patch version, 3.0 A(lpha)2, just about ready to go and hope to put it in your hands no later than Thursday.

After that I expect it will be at least a week before any futher updates can be ready. If there are enough issues reported I will try to have fixes ready no later than May 18th.

My consolation for your grandfather

Unfortunately, XDA 3.0 is one of the ROMS which does not accept arabization software.

[RizwanKhan]

anybody who would like to share their condolences with Kyphur please post here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=390592):

[kyphur]

Unfortunately, XDA 3.0 is one of the ROMS which does not accept arabization software.

Can you give me a list of Roms that will work with Arabization software, links to the software that won't install and any Errors/messages you get when trying to install them?

Can't promise anything for sure but I will look into it.

[david2327]

anyone else having problem with no sound? I looked through the threads but couldn't find anyone else having this problem. Any suggestions?

This rom is awesome though... very fast. This is my first flashed rom... I'm glad I lost innocence to you.

[kyphur]

What Radio are using...


anyone else having problem with no sound? I looked through the threads but couldn't find anyone else having this problem. Any suggestions?

This rom is awesome though... very fast. This is my first flashed rom... I'm glad I lost innocence to you.

[david2327]

the one included? Crap do I need to flash one?

[kyphur]

Version 3.0 A2 does not include a Radio, sorry I forgot to update the OP.

the one included? Crap do I need to flash one?

[david2327]

which one would you suggest. for some reason I can't get the wiki to load and I'm not sure which to look for. If they're location based I live in georgia, usa?

[kyphur]

Use Radio 1.65.14.06

which one would you suggest. for some reason I can't get the wiki to load and I'm not sure which to look for. If they're location based I live in georgia, usa?

[david2327]

got it... thank you so much.

[jakirkla]

Yes,

I'm awaiting feedback from users regarding anything I might have missed.

The Rom is operational, zippy & smells good too but I don't use everything out there so I need to know if other users experience issues so I can chase them down and make corrections.
Yes, the ROM is very zippy and I'd like to stick with it for a while, but I'm having trouble with HTC Audio Manager. When I try to start it, I get the "The file 'AudioManager' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of it's components cannot be found." message.

Any ideas why this is happening?

[kyphur]

I thought HTC Audio Manager was removed? Are you installing it from a cab or did I leave something in by accident?

Yes, the ROM is very zippy and I'd like to stick with it for a while, but I'm having trouble with HTC Audio Manager. When I try to start it, I get the "The file 'AudioManager' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of it's components cannot be found." message.

Any ideas why this is happening?

[jakirkla]

I thought HTC Audio Manager was removed? Are you installing it from a cab or did I leave something in by accident?
From the latest cab I have for it....

[kyphur]

Provide the cab please, I'd bet there is something missing from it.

From the latest cab I have for it....

[jakirkla]

I thought HTC Audio Manager was removed? Are you installing it from a cab or did I leave something in by accident?
are there files it needs that were removed maybe?

[kyphur]

If that is the case then it is an incomplete cab file. Provide the cab and I'll check it's dependencies.

are there files it needs that were removed maybe?

[jakirkla]

here it is

[jakirkla]

If that is the case then it is an incomplete cab file. Provide the cab and I'll check it's dependencies.
I've now tried a couple of older builds of Audio Manager but I get the same error.

I have the Net CF 3.5 and the HTC Camera you provided as a cabs installed, that's it.

[kyphur]

Take this dll and put it in your windows folder.



here it is

[jakirkla]

Take this dll and put it in your windows folder.
Did that but still getting the same error

[kyphur]

The only other missing dependency I could find is "DWMAPI.dll" but I don't have that file.



Did that but still getting the same error

[jakirkla]

The only other missing dependency I could find is "DWMAPI.dll" but I don't have that file.
I found that file here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500

but it didn't seem to make a difference either. Thanks for trying regardless.

[kwickone]

Works for me, too. Radio 1.64.08.21

FWIW, 1.64.08.21 did not work for me with this ROM. I was able to make 1, and only 1 successful call. After that, I could see that I connected, but no sound at all.

The 1.65.14.06 radio works fine.

So far: nice, fast and stable Kyphur!

Thanks!

[david2327]

does this rom include microsoft office?

[XtreMe_G]

does this rom include microsoft office?

its an extremely light rom, basically includes nothing at all

[david2327]

its an extremely light rom, basically includes nothing at all

where can I get it then?

[yi3o8]

xda live wiki, always read the wiki

[jakirkla]

Yes, the ROM is very zippy and I'd like to stick with it for a while, but I'm having trouble with HTC Audio Manager. When I try to start it, I get the "The file 'AudioManager' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of it's components cannot be found." message.

Any ideas why this is happening?
So, is anyone else able to get HTC Audio Manager to work?

[waffle418]

So, is anyone else able to get HTC Audio Manager to work?

I'm rocking out on HTC Audio Manager right now. So, your answer is yes, someone is able to get it to work.

[kyphur]

How about sharing the Cab file you used?

I'm rocking out on HTC Audio Manager right now. So, your answer is yes, someone is able to get it to work.

[waffle418]

Here's the cab I've used to install it on both alpha versions of XDA Live.

[jakirkla]

Here's the cab I've used to install it on both alpha versions of XDA Live.
Thanks, I will give it a try.

[jakirkla]

Here's the cab I've used to install it on both alpha versions of XDA Live.
So, we're getting somewhere becasue this version of Audio Manager works just fine. Unfortunately, it's an older version that doesn't support track numbering in Albums. Thus, this is one of the old versions that lists Album songs in alphabetical order only.

Hmmm.... does this indicate something specific in the newer versions of Audio Manager that conflicts with this ROM?

[kyphur]

Pull the exe out of the newer cab file and just copy it over the older exe, see if that give you the version you want.

So, we're getting somewhere becasue this version of Audio Manager works just fine. Unfortunately, it's an older version that doesn't support track numbering in Albums. Thus, this is one of the old versions that lists Album songs in alphabetical order only.

Hmmm.... does this indicate something specific in the newer versions of Audio Manager that conflicts with this ROM?

[chatterbox1990]

for some reason it doesnt load into my phone.. I have an att tilt with a 1.62.502.0 att rom

[futbolkeeper]

for some reason it doesnt load into my phone.. I have an att tilt with a 1.62.502.0 att rom

What are you talking about, are you trying to flash to this ROM or what???? If you are, you better do some reading before trying to flash to ANY new ROM, otherwise your on a non-stop trip to "Brick your Phone Town" and when you get there everyone points and laughs uncontrollably at you. My suggestion would be to stop whatever you are doing RIGHT NOW and click on the link in my signature that says "Flashing Virgins click this link" and READ it first, and follow every step to the "T".

[chatterbox1990]

yea im new to this haha well basically yes i am trying to put this rom in. I wanted duttys 6.1 in but that will not work either

[futbolkeeper]

yea im new to this haha well basically yes i am trying to put this rom in. I wanted duttys 6.1 in but that will not work either

Click on the link in my signature as I stated above or your gonna have an expensive door stop.

[chatterbox1990]

the remember link? and what exactly is a radio?

[futbolkeeper]

the remember link? and what exactly is a radio?

You just have to read buddy, "Flashing Virgins Click here" link, gotta do some research before starting this stuff out. And yes the Reading is fundamental. It will reveal all to you, lots of useful info there.

[chatterbox1990]

I updated the rom yesterday for the first time to the new att rom now i want to put 6.1 hybrid..looks solid.. is it worth upgrading?

[futbolkeeper]

I updated the rom yesterday for the first time to the new att rom now i want to put 6.1 hybrid..looks solid.. is it worth upgrading?

Let's not clutter Kyphur's thread with this stuff, I sent you a Private Message.

[jakirkla]

Pull the exe out of the newer cab file and just copy it over the older exe, see if that give you the version you want.
Tried that, but it didn't work. I tried the opposite of that, using the older .exe with the newer installed cab and it works, but it's got the same issue of only listing the songs in alphabetical order.

It is wierd though that an old exe works fine (1.02 - Build 409.721) but the newer versions don't.

[XtreMe_G]

here's what i did.....a little bit of an overkill, cause i had all sorts of trouble getting the htc apps working. i grabbed a bunch of dll files that i could find in the OEMAPPS folder of att rom dump, and also copied some registry entries that *i think* were relevant, and then threw it all in the windows directory. i've attached the dll files and the .reg file. all my htc stuff now works fine, streaming media, voice recorder, audio manager.

[jakirkla]

here's what i did.....a little bit of an overkill, cause i had all sorts of trouble getting the htc apps working. i grabbed a bunch of dll files that i could find in the OEMAPPS folder of att rom dump, and also copied some registry entries that *i think* were relevant, and then threw it all in the windows directory. i've attached the dll files and the .reg file. all my htc stuff now works fine, streaming media, voice recorder, audio manager.
Thanks, I'll give it a try and report back.

[jakirkla]

Thanks, I'll give it a try and report back.
I am happy to report that your collection of DLL's worked. Thank you.

[kyphur]

Guys. 3.0 A2 will be ready sometime tonight. I'll put the 'codec' files & reg entries back in for this release....

I am happy to report that your collection of DLL's worked. Thank you.

[thrash magazine]

anyone have a full benchmark run? I am compiling a spreadsheet of all the ROMS ( and yes I will be updating these as ROMs come out) to help show people what is available. If you do please message me or post it here thanks.

[kimtyson]

Guys. 3.0 A2 will be ready sometime tonight. I'll put the 'codec' files & reg entries back in for this release....

Eagerly standing by. :)

[kyphur]

Only on 4shared right now (hotel's internet is sooo slowwww)...

http://www.4shared.com/file/47279519/f4fbcb9e/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-30_A2_WWE_3515020_2581_4002H_1651406_UC.html

[kimtyson]

I guess I am the first. I'm downloading now but have to go off to work. Will install this evening and test it out. Thanks Kyphur!

[idj1975]

Only on 4shared right now (hotel's internet is sooo slowwww)...

http://www.4shared.com/file/47279519/f4fbcb9e/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-30_A2_WWE_3515020_2581_4002H_1651406_UC.html

And now there is the latest from incognitho... Argh! Decisions, decisions....

[ndcart]

Hey Kyphur,

I know you probably haven't had time to update the post yet, but what improvements/changes are there in the new release? Thanks for all the hard work man. First one runs like a champ except for remote desktop.


Only on 4shared right now (hotel's internet is sooo slowwww)...

http://www.4shared.com/file/47279519/f4fbcb9e/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-30_A2_WWE_3515020_2581_4002H_1651406_UC.html

[kimtyson]

It installed and seems to run just fine. I'm not sure I notice any difference yet. I will use it tomorrow and see how it is.

[Palmore]

Sorry, I don't check in often here lol.

Here is my App List


Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.7
HTC Camera 5.04 Build 29195
ATT Tilt Keyboard Fix
ATT MMS MEdianet Cab
CorePlayer 1.2.2
.NET CF 3.5
Kaiser HTC Home 2.0.814.722
MS Live Search (Sorry don't recall build)
MobiTV
MS Office Mobile 07 + One Note
SPB Pocket Plus 3.0
OZ Instant Messenger (from ATT cabs)
HTC Quick GPS 1.00.905.716
WM6 RDP
SpriteBackup 5.1
TomTom Navigator 6.03.832
"Vista" Style Wait Cursor Cab
XDA 2.0 Reg Tweaks
Opera 8.6

Are all applications I've loaded.

Typically it's txting (as of recent) I notice the most problems... (most likely cause it's what I use most) But yeah txting is pretty bad.

the brief 5 minutes I had the vanilla ROM installed was great. I will flash the 3.0 Alpha and toy with it before I lay my apps back down, and hopefully get a chance to pay closer attention to what apps I have issues with for you.




Please be more specific than "Several Apps".

What apps have you installed?

Which one are giving you problems?

Do you still experience the latency issues if you Hard Reset and don't install anything? Try texting before you install your apps.

Also, note that there will be some software that doesn't play nice with WM6.1. I know that CardExportII has issues and CorePlayer while it works seems to behave differently in WM6.1.

[GSLEON3]

Anyone RS a mirror for me? Can't use my DL manager with 4Share.

[phouki]

Anyone RS a mirror for me? Can't use my DL manager with 4Share.

http://rapidshare.com/files/115443143/RUU_Tilt_XDA-Live-3.0_A2_WWE_3.51.502.0_25.81_.40.02H_1.65.14.06_UC. exe
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=427EKO4L

[kareeem]

How do we get the sliding sounds? I installed some but i can't find the icon under start>settings>personal ?

[XtreMe_G]

:) see what happens when you post in the right thread

try this cab

[kareeem]

Lol, great. I just thought that this thread was kind of old (i was looking at the pre-discussion). I was on dutty's rom before this and there wasn't a scroll bar on my today screen, now there is. I tried to "hide" the system tray, but that didn't do it. Any idea on how to delete it? i also get some weird bluetooth symbol on it and i have no idea what it is.

edit: here's a pic

http://i30.tinypic.com/jhbj2s.jpg


one last thing, do you have any idea which icons are used in this post? i searched almost every single icon on emu's page--but couldn't find any.

[XtreMe_G]

whatever it is they all came from apps you installed, this is a light rom. i would try uninstalling apps one by one to figure it out.

i believe those are the default htc home icons

[kareeem]

I'm pretty sure they aren't the original ones because those are the ones i use as of now. That bluetooth icon is killing me and i know that none of the programs i use has it. Dutty's rom never showed it for some reason.

[XtreMe_G]

they sooooo are the original htc home icons, just go see the pic in the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser)

[kareeem]

Man, i forgot to mention the post like an idiot. My fault--here's the correct post i should have showed you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947 (third picture)

[sirooga]

Lol, great. I just thought that this thread was kind of old (i was looking at the pre-discussion). I was on dutty's rom before this and there wasn't a scroll bar on my today screen, now there is. I tried to "hide" the system tray, but that didn't do it. Any idea on how to delete it? i also get some weird bluetooth symbol on it and i have no idea what it is.

edit: here's a pic

http://i30.tinypic.com/jhbj2s.jpg
one last thing, do you have any idea which icons are used in this post? i searched almost every single icon on emu's page--but couldn't find any.

The "wierd" bluetooth icon is because you have your phone as visible. I assume this was done to let you know that you checked that little box and now I can see what you have on your phone! The other two are easy, but if you want I can tell you those also.

[kareeem]

The "wierd" bluetooth icon is because you have your phone as visible. I assume this was done to let you know that you checked that little box and now I can see what you have on your phone! The other two are easy, but if you want I can tell you those also.
Thanks for that :) I actually found it out yesterday when i was talking with somebody on aim and when i removed the visibility, it was gone. Now i just need to find the regedit to get rid of the icon.



I've encountered a problem with my dpad backlight--it wont turn on anymore. I just did a hard reset and still nothing. I'd hate to have to change this rom just because of that so does anybody have a fix? I tried searching the thread for something, but couldn't find anything.

[kyphur]

This is a known issue with the at&t 3.51 Base ROM. It has been fixed in the 3.53 ROM but it looks like the fix introduced some strange backlight behavior.

I'll wait to see if they've corrected it properly in the next at&t ROM.

I've encountered a problem with my dpad backlight--it wont turn on anymore. I just did a hard reset and still nothing. I'd hate to have to change this rom just because of that so does anybody have a fix? I tried searching the thread for something, but couldn't find anything.

[kirtley12]

Has anyone gotten it to work on this rom? if so How?

Thanks

[kareeem]

Good to know it's not just my Tilt that has the backlight issue.

[anonova]

Is it just me, or are there times when the device will lock up entirely for a couple of seconds? Using alpha2 by the way.

[XtreMe_G]

Now i just need to find the regedit to get rid of the icon.


i figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth icon. just delete this key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\App\Tasks\BTFlashIcon]

[MustBNuts]

Okay, so the first step is admitting you have a problem....

Hi, my name is MustBNuts and I'm addicted to ROM flashing! :D

Love this ROM! Best one I've come across, has everything I want/need, nothing I need to uninstall....THANKS!

Now for a couple of questions: 1. do I need to apply the 2.0 registry tweaks on the A2? and 2. (more comment than question) I had the last version and found I had the same problem in landscape - couldn't see what I typed when clear type was enabled - and going back and changing it didn't help... this is mute as I've just flashed the latest.

Thanks for all your work

[kyphur]

Answer 1, No.. The tweaks are built-in to all v3 Roms.

Answer 2, there were a couple of reports of that, use kaisertweak and disable cleartype in landscape. See if that helps,

Okay, so the first step is admitting you have a problem....

Hi, my name is MustBNuts and I'm addicted to ROM flashing! :D

Love this ROM! Best one I've come across, has everything I want/need, nothing I need to uninstall....THANKS!

Now for a couple of questions: 1. do I need to apply the 2.0 registry tweaks on the A2? and 2. (more comment than question) I had the last version and found I had the same problem in landscape - couldn't see what I typed when clear type was enabled - and going back and changing it didn't help... this is mute as I've just flashed the latest.

Thanks for all your work

[MustBNuts]

Thanks Kyphur for the quick reply...

Since I wrote that I have re-ROMed this phone at least a couple of times....I wonder if it's possible to wear it out this way.... :rolleyes:

I suspected the fixes were rolled into the latest, but wanted to make sure.

Thanks,

MBN

[kareeem]

Does anybody know how to show sim contacts? I've tried almost everything including adding new values to HKLM>Control Panel>Phone>ShowSIM 1 however nothing seems to work. I tried kaisertweaks, sktools, advance configuration tool but no avail. Any ideas?

[kyphur]

Does anybody know how to show sim contacts? I've tried almost everything including adding new values to HKLM>Control Panel>Phone>ShowSIM 1 however nothing seems to work. I tried kaisertweaks, sktools, advance configuration tool but no avail. Any ideas?

For some reason with Kaiser Roms it seems you have to cook it as either show or hide and are unable to change it later. I cooked my preference which is hide.

[kareeem]

Ah, no wonder. Because now, Voice Command wont announce incoming callers which is a pain. Anyways, good to know that, thanks.

[kareeem]

After some searching and "trial and error" I was lead to find out that the "eye" bt icon on the bottom tray was because of bluetooth visibility was on. Does anybody know the regedit to disable that icon because i like to keep my bt visibility on for several reasons. Also, do the d-pad/scrolling wheel act sluggish at times for anybody? Out of nowhere, mine wont work for a few seconds and i have to for some reason control using the screen and then they come back.

[kyphur]

After some searching and "trial and error" I was lead to find out that the "eye" bt icon on the bottom tray was because of bluetooth visibility was on. Does anybody know the regedit to disable that icon because i like to keep my bt visibility on for several reasons.
Your question was replied to here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2241346&postcount=184).
Also, do the d-pad/scrolling wheel act sluggish at times for anybody? Out of nowhere, mine wont work for a few seconds and i have to for some reason control using the screen and then they come back.
Upgrade your HardSPL to 3.28.Hard here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922).

[RizwanKhan]

After some searching and "trial and error" I was lead to find out that the "eye" bt icon on the bottom tray was because of bluetooth visibility was on. Does anybody know the regedit to disable that icon because i like to keep my bt visibility on for several reasons. Also, do the d-pad/scrolling wheel act sluggish at times for anybody? Out of nowhere, mine wont work for a few seconds and i have to for some reason control using the screen and then they come back.

don't know about bt icon but as far as freezing goes that is happening will all new wm6.1 roms. Jockyw has created a new spl to help fix this problem. Flash the new hardspl and see if that helps,

peace,
sire

p.s. lol kyphur beat me to it :)

[kareeem]

Ugh, my fault, never realized somebody replied to that post. I'll flash to that hardspl as soon as my battery reaches 50 percent, it's at 28 =O.

[kareeem]

Thanks for the guidance. I just flashed to that new spl and things seem to be working fine (wish it would have fixed the backlight issue on the pie, messaging, send, end, etc.. buttons).

[kyphur]

Thanks for the guidance. I just flashed to that new spl and things seem to be working fine (wish it would have fixed the backlight issue on the pie, messaging, send, end, etc.. buttons).

Something I'd suggest you try is to extract the backlight.dll from the AT&T 3.53 Rom (or on of the HTC Roms that it works properly) and see if it fixes the issue for you.

[LCBrewing]

Any plans to update this to the latest ATT build, or take it out of Alpha stage any time soon? Just curious, as I keep coming back to the XDA roms for their simplicity and stability after trying endless others along the way.

[kyphur]

Any plans to update this to the latest ATT build, or take it out of Alpha stage any time soon? Just curious, as I keep coming back to the XDA roms for their simplicity and stability after trying endless others along the way.

I don't like the 3.53 AT&T build, they fixed the backlight on the hardware buttons but I believe it introduced other backlight anomolies.

I'm considering experimenting with dlls from the official HTC Released WM 6.1 Roms to see if I can fix the buttons backlight without breaking other backlight. Aside from that the only other change I see is removing Voice Command from the Rom as it is avaliable on-line and many prefer one of the Cyberon solutions while some still don't use any Voice Dialer.

I'm also kind of waiting to see if there is another AT&T Release that addresses the backlight issue they introduced in 3.53.

Then again I've also played with rebuilding XDA-live using the Asian WWE 3.29 HTC Rom as a base!

[kareeem]

I've been trying to look into the idea of the backlight.dll, but unfortunately everybody i've asked has a custom ROM so there goes that =O. As soon as i find it, i'll report back here if it works or not.

[kyphur]

I've been trying to look into the idea of the backlight.dll, but unfortunately everybody i've asked has a custom ROM so there goes that =O. As soon as i find it, i'll report back here if it works or not.

Download the Rom you want to get the dll from, use the KaiserKitchen to extract the Rom, then copy the file.....

[nickox]

How to traduct this rom in french??

[kyphur]

How to traduct this rom in french??

What you're looking for is localization of the Rom to French.

Try searching the forum for "How To localize Rom" or "Changing Rom Language". I know there is info around on how to do it but I've never done it myself.

You will have to learn to do a bit of Rom Cooking as you will have to get all of the language files for French WM 6.1 from a donor Rom.

I don't think there is a localization cab file method.

[LCBrewing]

I don't like the 3.53 AT&T build, they fixed the backlight on the hardware buttons but I believe it introduced other backlight anomolies.

I'm considering experimenting with dlls from the official HTC Released WM 6.1 Roms to see if I can fix the buttons backlight without breaking other backlight. Aside from that the only other change I see is removing Voice Command from the Rom as it is avaliable on-line and many prefer one of the Cyberon solutions while some still don't use any Voice Dialer.

I'm also kind of waiting to see if there is another AT&T Release that addresses the backlight issue they introduced in 3.53.

Then again I've also played with rebuilding XDA-live using the Asian WWE 3.29 HTC Rom as a base!

So, it's safe to say that a cook's work is never done. :D Good to know you're still experimenting - I trust the recipe you finally release as "final" will be as good as those you've put out before. Thanks for the update.

[rallaster]

Hey Kyph, just flashed the new Live 3.0 with 24 MB PagePool using your pagepool patcher and so far... it's flying. I just flashed it and haven't gone into adding apps or playing with it yet but just from the outset this ROM is cooking. I will post my personal XP when I get the chance to sit down and take the time to play with it.

Update: Just went into the /windows/ dir using file explorer on my phone and no sooner than I clicked on the windows file than the windows dir was up. with most other ROMS (even Live 2.0) it was a waiting game (5-10 sec) to get the windows dir to display in file explorer. I'm sold on Live 3.0, hope the final version is atleast as good as the A(lpha)1 release

[kareeem]

Curious if this is subject to the ROM or a hardware defect. I've read a lot of other users having the same problem but mine is a little different. When I turn on Wifi, my bluetooth headset icon disappears on the top and disconnects automatically. I've heard some say that the bluetooth sound is horrible, however that is not the case with me, i lose all sound (via bt). Anybody else have this problem?

Also, is there an ETA when 3.0 will be official or out of Alpha?

[edgar510oakland]

where can i find Jump/Soft???? please?

[kareeem]

I'm not sure what you're exactly trying to say but if you want JumpSPL, you can find it here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667).

[kareeem]

I don't like the 3.53 AT&T build, they fixed the backlight on the hardware buttons but I believe it introduced other backlight anomolies.

I'm considering experimenting with dlls from the official HTC Released WM 6.1 Roms to see if I can fix the buttons backlight without breaking other backlight. Aside from that the only other change I see is removing Voice Command from the Rom as it is avaliable on-line and many prefer one of the Cyberon solutions while some still don't use any Voice Dialer.

I'm also kind of waiting to see if there is another AT&T Release that addresses the backlight issue they introduced in 3.53.

Then again I've also played with rebuilding XDA-live using the Asian WWE 3.29 HTC Rom as a base!
Any update on this :D?

[anonova]

Been using this ROM for a couple of months now, and I wanted to send a picture to someone via MMS. They received it, and they said they sent one back. I never received it. Any idea on why this would happen? I've received pictures by MMS on Alex's clean ROMs and XDA-Live 1.0 before, so I'm assuming it's ROM related (either Windows Mobile 6.1 or something else).

I'm using ArcSoft MMS Composer 5.0.31.16 and using the settings from here.

http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84421

Also, any news on a ROM update?

[willateo]

forgive my ignorance, but i would like to flash the 3.0 xda live rom, but i don't understand the use of the hardspl. every time i look at the wiki, i come to different conclusions about how to use it, and i just don't trust myself enough to chance it. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[willateo]

how do we get the slider sounds and applet back?

[DaveShaw]

how do we get the slider sounds and applet back?

There are some post in here that might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369964

Ta
Dave

[Shadow7789]

Any chance we will see an updated ROM based on the official AT&T 6.1 ROM?

[tolikkozak]

Thank you for your hard work. Will donate from next paycheck. How much do people usually donate?

Have been using this rom, no major problems that i can link to the rom..
:)

[tolikkozak]

Any chance we will see an updated ROM based on the official AT&T 6.1 ROM?

isnt this one it?
lol