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[mlcohen]

Maybe you should just cook your own rom

[bengalih]

Maybe you should just cook your own rom

My friend, you miss the whole concept of this thread. If I cooked my own ROM that would only help ME. If I released it to the public there would be many people who wanted to change this or change that. When an update came out I couldn't remove my old version, but would need to recook the whole ROM again with the updates. Granted, for those people who prefer to use a cooked ROM because it "saves them time" when reflashing, then by all means please continue to use a fully cooked ROM. However, I don't see the need to reflash my ROM every two weeks. I would much prefer to have the ability to simply add/remove a program to update it then cook a ROM.

In addition, this thread should prove useful to aspiring cooks becuase I hope to compile the information that would be necessary to take a lite/stock ROM and add to it the bits and pieces that each individual cook might find useful to suit his/her tastes.

So please, if you don't like the concept go lurk elsewhere. This thread is meant for people who support this idea, not nay sayers. If no one supports this idea, then i may have an empty thread, but I am not about to have a debate as to the merits of my idea.

[mlcohen]

so just install what you want on your lite rom. Everything is out there including Office and the camera stuff. If you really wanted to get crazy you could put it all in your UC

[bengalih]

so just install what you want on your lite rom. Everything is out there including Office and the camera stuff. If you really wanted to get crazy you could put it all in your UC

I realize it is all "out there" The purpose of this thread is to help compile it in one place and assist those who prefer to do it this way instead of using a cooked ROM. There are hundreds of threads devoted to "which is the best cooked ROM" and dozens upon dozens of them devoted to "how do I get APP A to work on this cooked rom, or APP B on other cooked ROM."

I believe the people who don't want to use these cooked ROMs should have a place to gather all their info, and hope this to be the place.

And with that being said, I don't plan to respond to any additional critiques of the concept. If you don't want to be a part of the solution then have fun elsewhere.

thanks.

[XtreMe_G]

I realize it is all "out there" ......



omg you have no idea......i just went through hell finding cab files and getting them to work on the weekend. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!

i found a cool way of getting some cab files though.......older devices with less storage or with extended roms like the blue angel, the cooks usually provide cab files with their roms.

The worst part was getting the HTC apps to work, esp the multimedia apps.......a lot of the cab files, they just provide the executable and few stuff and the graphic files, but not the codecs that it needs to work. what i did was dump the at&t 6.1 rom and grabbed a bunch of codecs, somewhat works now, i'm missing some reg entries........i'm somewhat waaaaay over my head, but its fun learning this shit as i go along.

oh and i hate the fact that all these htc apps dump their graphic files in the windows directory, takes me forever to open that directory. i did find one or two versions of apps that didnt need them in the windows directory.

[finch]

I like where this is going and want to see more. I am one of those people.

I like the dutty series. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383638

Was one of my favorites but too much in it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947

The lite of this is the one I am using now.

For example. In the first link I do not want the HTC home, FM Radio etc. But this rom is FAST.

I really like the Hybrid I am using but I have the lite and really liked the MS Voice in from the full versions. I would like to take the games out add ms office and a few progies I use.

I nomintate

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947

I use the 1.64.08.21 radio version.

[marm0lade]

Two registry edits for touchscreen adjustments I find useful:

-Adjusting touch screen sensitivity (from GWENI)
-Adjusting the backlight level when device is locked

For both of these you will need a program to edit your device's registry, such as Mobile Reg Editor or PHM Reg Editor (http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/).

Adjusting Touch Screen Sensitivity

-open reg editor
-browse to to HKey_Local_Machine\Drivers\TouchPanel
-change key "PressureThreshold" to "5000".

5000 is recommended, but you can play with the value until you find one you prefer.


Adjust Backlight level while device is locked

-open reg editor
-browse to HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
-change key "LockLevel" from "0" to any number between 1-10.

For this one I have mine set at 5. 10 is the brightest. Adjust to your personal preference.

[bengalih]

I like where this is going and want to see more. I am one of those people....
I nomintate

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947

I use the 1.64.08.21 radio version.



Thanks for the vote of encouragement.

I would assume that you meant the lite ROM from Dutty's latest? I am a fan of the Dutty ROMs and have not yet tried out the latest "lite" version. I couldn't find out on the main page what exactly was IN the "lite" version. Can you post that info here, or a direct link?

So we have our first contender (awaiting more info) as Dutty's latest "lite" build.

Remember to all posters the idea here is to start with a good basic ROM that will allow us to customize ourselves (without being locked down to cooked in apps). Using something like Dutty's could be a good idea as his lite version should have many of his good tweaks built in. I would just like to get some more specific info as to what is in his lite ROM, as well as a few more nominations before we get the ball rolling.

Chances are what we come up with in this thread can be used with many of the ROMs out there, so we don't all have to agree on one. In fact, if we can nominate the top two or three lite/stock ROMs out there for people to experiment with that would be great.

Also, please remember to always check back on the first page for any updates.

[bengalih]

Two registry edits for touchscreen adjustments I find useful:

-Adjusting touch screen sensitivity (from GWENI)
-Adjusting the backlight level when device is locked
...

Great, fantastic marmOlade, this is exactly the type of things I want to see in terms of good tweaks that pretty much anyone would want to have.

I know most of these are out there posted (like in the excellent GWENI thread) and most like we will have a lot of cross-linkage going on there.

I hope to get a nice database of these tweaks and maybe either work with one of the developers to either make an updated kaiser-tweak program with many more entires, or possibly I can work on developing a PC-based app that would generate a registry file based on chosen options which can then be uploaded to the device. This way you can check-box off the tweaks you like and quickly update the device... that is down the road of course..but thanks for the initial contribution!

[thomassster]

Great, fantastic marmOlade, this is exactly the type of things I want to see in terms of good tweaks that pretty much anyone would want to have.

I know most of these are out there posted (like in the excellent GWENI thread) and most like we will have a lot of cross-linkage going on there.

I hope to get a nice database of these tweaks and maybe either work with one of the developers to either make an updated kaiser-tweak program with many more entires, or possibly I can work on developing a PC-based app that would generate a registry file based on chosen options which can then be uploaded to the device. This way you can check-box off the tweaks you like and quickly update the device... that is down the road of course..but thanks for the initial contribution!

I believe all your kaiser tweaks can be found in kaisertweak and schap's advanced configuration. If you want to edit htc home, then home customizer works wonders. Not sure why you need a thread like this when you have all these tools.

[bengalih]

I believe all your kaiser tweaks can be found in kaisertweak and schap's advanced configuration. If you want to edit htc home, then home customizer works wonders. Not sure why you need a thread like this when you have all these tools.

Thanks for that input thomassster. Yes I realize that many of these tweaks are included in some of the tweak programs out there (probably 80%?). Part of this here is to bring attention to them. Many of the tweaks are either already built into the cooked ROMs, or people don't necessarily know what they do just from their title. If we can compile here some better descriptions to help better understand what each tweak does, then for people who wish to customize their own devices from the ground up have a good compendium to look through.

Also, registry tweaks isn't all this thread is about. It is about how to add various applications that may have tricky ways of doing things into a compendium where people can find it easily.

For instance, it isn't always easy to get MS Voice command fully working, or Skype, or some GPS softwares. Currently if you want to use some of these programs you have two options:
1) Use a ROM that has these cooked in already.
2) Look through the forum until you find the solution.

Option #2 of course can be very time consuming as information is outdated and dispersed throughout the forums (some of it isn't even in the Kaiser forums). What I am hoping to do is bring this all together to assist all with some of the trickier apps (MSVC, cubes, etc...).

If you feel this is unnecessary, then please feel free not to visit, but I hope you will continue to provide beneficial input. I'll be sure to post your suggestions on the front (if you have more info to give, links and such are appreciated so I don't need to search myself!).

thanks.

[msharaf]

I like the idea as all tweaks and tips are spread over thousands of threads.

I worked on collecting my owns long time ago and I think putting them in a new thread is not a big deal unless bengalih do the documentation of all posted tweaks and post them in one document and/or CAB in first post.

Or simply add them to wiki

[bengalih]

I like the idea as all tweaks and tips are spread over thousands of threads....

Thanks for the vote of support. I am as much interested in getting some good descriptions, and many categorizing the tweaks. As many have pointed out most of the tweaks are out there and already included in some of the tweak programs. I would like to add to that by giving attention to exactly what the tweaks do, how they help us, and which ones are highly recommended.

For instance, you might use Dutty's ROM and like all the tweaks in there, while not even realizing what he has done. If you moved to a "lite" ROM you might miss those things, but not really know which tweak it is you need to perform... I hope to gather a good list of that type of info here.

[slovoflud]

Great!

I totally agree with what you say in your first post. Currently using latest Duttys ROM, but still feel i need something more custom made (by me) in other words i'd like to have a bigger input in what I use.

watching the thread....

[vcespon]

What about starting with an official shipped ROM?, remove just stupid things like welcome center, customer feedback... everything else is needed.
Most cooked ROMS I've tried have things broken, I mean things that work on official stock ROM and not here.
Like Windows live, 3G call, QuickGPS, HTC album.. I usally do not spend more than a few hours with a cooked ROM before I find too many bugs and too many things that should be working and are not.
I can flash the ROM that came with my TyTN II and add a few cabs, and all work. Camera works, 3G video call works, GPS works, Tomtom works, Skype works... It's WM6.0, but things WORK. No missing icons, no missing buttons, no stupid buttons for hardware that it's not on the phone...

And, expecting those "go cook your own ROM" flames... this is looking a lot like the linux fanboys, I'm not a programmer or OS developer, I see someone announcing an OS and test it, and give my findings. No good if basic things do not work correctly and you have to search for registry tweaks to make something that you had before appear again, or work as in a stock ROM.

[Mikulec]

What about starting with an official shipped ROM?, remove just stupid things like welcome center, customer feedback... everything else is needed.
Most cooked ROMS I've tried have things broken, I mean things that work on official stock ROM and not here.
Like Windows live, 3G call, QuickGPS, HTC album.. I usally do not spend more than a few hours with a cooked ROM before I find too many bugs and too many things that should be working and are not.
I can flash the ROM that came with my TyTN II and add a few cabs, and all work. Camera works, 3G video call works, GPS works, Tomtom works, Skype works... It's WM6.0, but things WORK. No missing icons, no missing buttons, no stupid buttons for hardware that it's not on the phone...

And, expecting those "go cook your own ROM" flames... this is looking a lot like the linux fanboys, I'm not a programmer or OS developer, I see someone announcing an OS and test it, and give my findings. No good if basic things do not work correctly and you have to search for registry tweaks to make something that you had before appear again, or work as in a stock ROM.

I am using a cooked rom and dont have any bugs. Looks like u have tried the wrong roms. And dont forget that shiped roms dont have some customizations(which improve the performance) that the cooked roms have.

[vcespon]

I am using a cooked rom and dont have any bugs. Looks like u have tried the wrong roms. And dont forget that shiped roms dont have some customizations(which improve the performance) that the cooked roms have.

Stock ROM + Kaisertweak >= any cooked ROM

I don't know what you call "performance", I see the stock ROM swift enough, even faster than most cooked ROMs. Playing youtube videos from the web and downloaded, playing Divx, switching from portrait to landscape (fast and no garbled pixels while switching), reading on RSShub without 5-second locks sometimes, flipping though a book in MS Reader at 5 pages/second.. Camera v4 and v5 work perfectly, videos can be saved and watched again on WMP.

Just checks other threads and you'll find many complains about some of these things not working on cooked ROMs.

[ehsanuetian]

I think shipped Roms are more "bug free" than the cooked Roms.:)

[Mikulec]

Stock ROM + Kaisertweak >= any cooked ROM

I don't know what you call "performance", I see the stock ROM swift enough, even faster than most cooked ROMs. Playing youtube videos from the web and downloaded, playing Divx, switching from portrait to landscape (fast and no garbled pixels while switching), reading on RSShub without 5-second locks sometimes, flipping though a book in MS Reader at 5 pages/second.. Camera v4 and v5 work perfectly, videos can be saved and watched again on WMP.

Just checks other threads and you'll find many complains about some of these things not working on cooked ROMs.

This all is matter of preference as this whole thread. You preffer playing video, reading RSS, ... and I preffer quickier programm opening, ... And for me cooked roms(at least cooked roms Ive tried) are better in this area.

2.u cant do everything with the kaisertweak.

[bengalih]

What about starting with an official shipped ROM?, remove just stupid things like welcome center, customer feedback... everything else is needed.
Most cooked ROMS I've tried have things broken, I mean things that work on official stock ROM and not here....And, expecting those "go cook your own ROM" flames... this is looking a lot like the linux fanboys, I'm not a programmer or OS developer, I see someone announcing an OS and test it, and give my findings. No good if basic things do not work correctly and you have to search for registry tweaks to make something that you had before appear again, or work as in a stock ROM.

Vcespon...

This is certainly a possibility, and something I want to explore in the first phase of the life of this thread.

I agree that most cooked ROMs have bugs. This isn't to say that they still aren't usable, or even very good at that. For instance, i consider the ability to not be able to install another SIP keyboard easily a bug even if the vast majority of people using the ROM don't (because the prefer the keyboard cooked in).

As you state I have not had these problems with a Stock ROM. I have usually found that a stock ROM also just works, and you can install whatever you want on top of it.

When I posted a thread previously on the benefits of my methodology vs using cooked ROMs, I would say 90% of the defense of using a cooked ROM was "It saves time - not having to reinstall everything after flash." The other 10% was "I don't have to get everything working myself." However, as you have noted the custom ROMs threads are filled with posts of people who have one problem or another. Again, this isn't to belittle the excellent work by the cooks, but as originally stated you can't please all the people all of the time, and there is bound to be an issue.

As far as using a stock ROM. I don't necessarily have an issue on this if this is the best base in terms of compatibility. We have to balance compatibility with bloat.

What we need are some more specifics here, as some people are throwing out suggestions without giving some good details as to the questions posted in the first thread.

If you feel a 6.0 ROM is better to use than a 6.1, give the pros, but also give the cons. What would be missing if we didn't use a 6.1 ROM, and can those things be added into the 6.1 (without cooking...probably not). Again, my preference is still a 6.1 build, and possibly a cooked "lite" version since hopefully the removal of the bloat introduces less chance for problems than the addition of it.

So please, all suggestions are welcome, let's just get a bit more detailed to make a more informed decision.

[bengalih]

And dont forget that shiped roms dont have some customizations(which improve the performance) that the cooked roms have.

Mikulec... you are correct there. One of the main purposes of this thread is to enumerate those customizations that are in the various cooked ROM that do improve their performance. Then, those of us who would prefer to use a more stock ROM can make some of those tweaks.

It also allows the changes to be made one at a time, for two reasons:
1) It allows those of us who have the desire to know "what" is being done to actually see and do it ourselves (thus raising general awareness).
2) It allows those changes to be rolled back if they present a problem

I realize that some of these changes may actually need to be cooked in, and wouldn't work otherwise (like replacing a critical system file in ROM). But I believe a large majority of these things can be added a la carte.

Again, this is for people who want the ultimate control of what comes on and off there phone. And YES, we could go cook our own ROMS, but again, that only benefits one person, and that would also still require recooking a ROM anytime a change needs to be made (like upgrading an installed application). I can uninstall and reinstall an app in about 60 seconds, where even cooking a basic ROM is at best a 10 minute process with multiple tools needed (meaning I can't just download a .cab OTA to my phone).

So thank you for pointing that out to allow my clarification...yes, we want to find and list all those things that make the cooked ROMS so nice so that we can make those changes ourselves to stock/lite ROMS.

[cushcalc]

My friend, you miss the whole concept of this thread. If I cooked my own ROM that would only help ME. If I released it to the public there would be many people who wanted to change this or change that. When an update came out I couldn't remove my old version, but would need to recook the whole ROM again with the updates. Granted, for those people who prefer to use a cooked ROM because it "saves them time" when reflashing, then by all means please continue to use a fully cooked ROM. However, I don't see the need to reflash my ROM every two weeks. I would much prefer to have the ability to simply add/remove a program to update it then cook a ROM. (emphasis added)

Great point! I agree! I also agree that _Alex_ Lite ROM is usually a good place to start from, in my experience.

[msharaf]

I am starting to like this thread more and more ...:)

I have a friend in my workplace who bought same set as mine but decided to keep orginial ROM.

With every flash I do I compare his performance with mine,
Guess what???

His performance is almost the same as mine even better with weak cooked ROM but BUG FREE :rolleyes:

The only thing I felt a difference in, is file read/write operations. Some windows builds like 19202/9 are damn fast. It shows the windows directory in 2or 3 seconds while normal ROMs do it in 5 to 6 secs.

A tweak I like that improve read/write,building icons, and some other things is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactF ramework\3.5.xxx is set to "1".

Cheers

[XtreMe_G]

The only thing I felt a difference in, is file read/write operations. Some windows builds like 19202/9 are damn fast. It shows the windows directory in 2or 3 seconds while normal ROMs do it in 5 to 6 secs.


the load time of the windows directory also depends on the number of files in there. and obviously the number of files in there is different from rom to rom.

[bengalih]

the load time of the windows directory also depends on the number of files in there. and obviously the number of files in there is different from rom to rom.

Definitely with a lite ROM there would be less, another advantage. Plus, there isn't as much of a need to ever go into the windows directory when all your apps aren't installed there.

I am leaning towards going with one of the "official" stock ROMs out there at my main basis for this project....but I don't think either the HTC or the AT&T 6.1 builds are official at this point. Although I don't think that 6.1 has that much more functionality over 6.0, I would prefer to work with the later version.

[bengalih]

A tweak I like that improve read/write,building icons, and some other things is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactF ramework\3.5.xxx is set to "1".
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Thanks for the contribution, but it looks like you are just providing a key path, and not which parameter should be changed to "1"? Also, if you could provide additional info, preferably following the syntax posted in the first page I will add this to the list.

[msharaf]

Thanks for the contribution, but it looks like you are just providing a key path, and not which parameter should be changed to "1"? Also, if you could provide additional info, preferably following the syntax posted in the first page I will add this to the list.

The key is 3.5.7283.00 DWORD to be set to "1".
I put 3.5.xxx if you have different ver of .NETCF 3.5

[msharaf]

the load time of the windows directory also depends on the number of files in there. and obviously the number of files in there is different from rom to rom.

I agree with you.
But the difference is not that big if you have 10 more applications added to a thousand of files.

[finch]

Thanks for the vote of encouragement.

I would assume that you meant the lite ROM from Dutty's latest? I am a fan of the Dutty ROMs and have not yet tried out the latest "lite" version. I couldn't find out on the main page what exactly was IN the "lite" version. Can you post that info here, or a direct link?

So we have our first contender (awaiting more info) as Dutty's latest "lite" build.

Remember to all posters the idea here is to start with a good basic ROM that will allow us to customize ourselves (without being locked down to cooked in apps). Using something like Dutty's could be a good idea as his lite version should have many of his good tweaks built in. I would just like to get some more specific info as to what is in his lite ROM, as well as a few more nominations before we get the ball rolling.

Chances are what we come up with in this thread can be used with many of the ROMs out there, so we don't all have to agree on one. In fact, if we can nominate the top two or three lite/stock ROMs out there for people to experiment with that would be great.

Also, please remember to always check back on the first page for any updates.

Sorry for the dealy here is the link.

http://rapidshare.com/files/111335193/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2_1_64.0 8.21_LiteV2_.zip

to be honest the rom that worked the best for me is.

http://rapidshare.com/files/107917203/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16 _27__FIX_.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/107917203/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16 _27__FIX_.zip)

This was the fastest and my favorite so far.

Here are the specs

Rom Applications Included Below:

Adobe Reader [added 16.4.08]
Adobe FlashLite Player [added 16.4.08]
Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.11
BT BPP_1_6_3_0
BT SAP_2_02_b0925_r3
BT Ftp_1_2_312471_1

Esmertec Java VM 20080222.3.1 [added 16.4.08]

HTC Album 1_0_1030_720
HTC AudioManager_1_2-1017.717 [Updated]
HTC Bluetooth Quick link
HTC Camera_5_0_4_2915_00 [Updated]
HTC CommManager 6 Buttons [ Shap's STYLE]
HTC ConnectionSetup_1_0_31261_1 [Updated] [U]- Want to remove
HTC Endkey_1_0_31235-1 [Mapped to Red end key]
HTC Field Test_2.15 [U]- Want to remove
HTC Home_2_0_814_722 [U]- Want to remove
HTC Home Plugin [added 16.4.08] - Want to remove
HTC NetworkPlugin_1_0_30468_1
HTC Quick GPS_1_00_919_717_01 [Updated]
HTC Random Access_4_0_1009_721 [Updated]
HTC RSS Hub_1_0_07 [Updated]
HTC Sim Manager_6.41 [NEW]
HTC SymbolPad
HTC StreamingMedia_3_00_1001_711_00
HTC VoiceRecorder_1_10_907716_0

Microsoft NetCf 3.5 RTM
Microsoft Office 2007
Microsoft Sqlcemobile 3.0 [NEW]
Microsoft voice command V1.6.19209[ NEW]
Microsoft Windows Live 10.6.34.800 [NEW]
Microsoft windows live search [U]- Want to remove

ADD ONS INCLUDED

Clear Temp
Gps test - Want to remove
PIM Backup 2.8 - Want to remove
Pocket RAR
Total Commander
Group SMS

My Registry tweaks:

Tidy up today screen
Clear type enabled
Live Serach through google
Disable Security Warning for Unsigned Apps & Cabs
Enable GPS in Camera
Single date line hack
Custom performance tweak
Battery performance [ Updated with much better performance on battery deterioration
Lots more cant remember

also remove all games and the fm radio he said he added.

I love Duttys tweaks and and I only want to remove a few things I never use and add a few I like and do.

I add
onenote
samsung clock
tomtom
a F1 progy I like
etc.

Hope this helps.

Thank you.

[bengalih]

The key is 3.5.7283.00 DWORD to be set to "1".
I put 3.5.xxx if you have different ver of .NETCF 3.5

Ok...thanks, I still wasn't sure what this tweak was doing from your description, but a search discovered that it apparently sets the default NetCF to 3.5. I'll update the main page with a link to a thread that I found which gives more info.

[bengalih]

to be honest the rom that worked the best for me is.

http://rapidshare.com/files/107917203/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16 _27__FIX_.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/107917203/Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16 _27__FIX_.zip)

This was the fastest and my favorite so far.
...also remove all games and the fm radio he said he added.

I love Duttys tweaks and and I only want to remove a few things I never use and add a few I like and do.


I agree with the April 16th Dutty's being a nice ROM. It is what I am using until I design my stock/lite ROM with everything I need.

Please remember though we aren't lookign to nominate ROMs that we want things removed from to make them how we want. We want to concentrate on which are the good lite/stock ROMs and what we need to do to them to get everything working as close to possible as the feature-rich cooked ROMs while still having the ability to remove and update non-cooked in apps.

thanks again for your input.

[finch]

Then I wish Dutty could give us a lite version of the April16 rom. That is crazy fast.

I mean that would not be asking much. Not like Dutty has done anything in a while. LOL He only has a new rom every couple of days. :)

[bengalih]

Then I wish Dutty could give us a lite version of the April16 rom. That is crazy fast.

I mean that would not be asking much. Not like Dutty has done anything in a while. LOL He only has a new rom every couple of days. :)

Well Dutty has released a lite version of his latest build, which after the initial fixes seems to be fairly stable.

I'd like to avoid making statements about speed with these various ROMs, because honestly there haven't really been any proper tests to conclude this. Some ROMS have posted benchmarks, but I also don't know how much I believe these benchmarks translate to actual usability.

The problem is that no ROM is created equal. When a cook releases a ROM based on CE build 1.1.1.1 and then another one based on CE Build 1.2.2.2, people will begin to claim that one is faster than another. This may of course be the case, but in general the cook does not just update the build, they modify additional registry entries, add/remove more things from the Windows folder, change keyboards, dialers, page pool. etc. Each of these things can change the observed speed of the ROM.

If a cook presented two ROMS, 100% identical except for the CE build, we might be better able to determine if one CE build is actually faster. Personally, I don't think that the speed differences on this front alone would be too dramatic.

In any event, once again to stress one of my intentioned purposes for this thread:
I'd like to list, and figure out, all the various things that are being placed into our favorite cooked ROMs so that we can take a stock/lite ROM (which generally perfrom fairly snappy) and add/remove these things at our will.

e.g....If we were to add a new dialer and discover that somehow the system was slowed, it would be a simple matter to then remove this dialer as it wouldn't be cooked in...

[UnicornKaz]

Adjust Backlight level while device is locked

-open reg editor
-browse to HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
-change key "LockLevel" from "0" to any number between 1-10.

For this one I have mine set at 5. 10 is the brightest. Adjust to your personal preference.

I used RESCO EXPLORER registry ... and it's one of the best for saving reg entries ...however

the above key change goes full bright for anything other then a "0" and the reg does not "stick" after a soft reset !!! ( works then and there but not after a soft reset )

every other changes sticked ... ( I double checked all my changes ) .... just not this particular one. ( backlight level while locked )

[msharaf]

Well, I like this thread and its discussions so I wont let it die. Come on guys, share your experience

I will start to post all I have learn from this forum and some of my own experience (as much as I hv time).

Cheers

[msharaf]

Tweak: Sound scheme in Windows mobile

In many ROMs, some people like the ticking sound when clicking the start key, choosing applications, ...etc.

If you don't have it and you want it, install the CAB attached.

If you have it and don't like it you may remove the whole or part of the following key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Snd\Event\.WM6

If you don't have it and don't like, no problem :D

[msharaf]

Tip: PagePool size in ROMs

Now with some tools like Kyphur PagePool patcher http://for.../showthread.php?t=390471 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390471) you can set the PP size of the cooked ROM before flashing.

Which size is suitable to you?

From other people experience with many phone sets, ROM boosts with very small (6MB) and very large PP size (32MB). If you increase your PP size, your free RAM allowed for applications decreases. If you decrease the PP size, you cannot open many large appliactions at same time and you may suffer freezes.

From my own experience, I like to set the PP size to Dynamic (increase as much as needed) which is the default of many stock official ROMs.

[msharaf]

Tip: Fancy keyboards

Most of lite ROMs come with OEM keyboard, for people who likes fancy keyboards here is a list:

* PCM keyboard:
you can find latest version here http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard.php

* HTC Touch keyboard (new):
Get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2170088 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2170088)

* Resco Keyboard (my favorite):
Attached with special skins similar to full kbd with crtl, shift, lang keys (supports all languages)

[livefastdiefun87]

I'm liking where this is going, i agree that the dutty lite ROM is a good place to start but, there are too many cabs going around at the moment that it will take ages to complie them all into one thread, but lets keep this up as i would prefer to make my own based on a stock ROM

[msharaf]

I'm liking where this is going, i agree that the dutty lite ROM is a good place to start but, there are too many cabs going around at the moment that it will take ages to complie them all into one thread, but lets keep this up as i would prefer to make my own based on a stock ROM

From where did you get your ROM ? is it WM6 or WM6.1?

Edit: I got it, is it good? do you find it better tham WM6.1 versions?

[bengalih]

hi bengalih.... nice informative thread brother.. i dont mean to sound rude, by all due respects, i hate the idea of using someone's creation as a base rom to build something

the expert, developer, cooker has spent his spare time and energy to pursue a hobby of being creative and searching for ingredients to be added in his rom and here someone downloads it, rips it apart just to use it as a base rom for cooking his own version.

ababrekar. I think you misunderstand what we are trying to do here.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO COOK ROMS HERE. If anything, this is an anti-cooked ROM thread (though not in really negative way). We are looking to use either a stock or "lite" cooked ROM as a base for INSTALLING additional applications and reg-tweaks.

I am sure no cook expects their ROM to be used without some modification by the user. By modification I mean addition of more programs, or some registry tweaks. In addition, I'm sure cooks would not mind the recompiling of their ROM for an individuals personal use (although that is NOT the purpose of this thread).

Thanks for the feedback...but please go back and carefully read the main post to better understand the purpose here.

[bengalih]

Well, I like this thread and its discussions so I wont let it die. Come on guys, share your experience

I will start to post all I have learn from this forum and some of my own experience (as much as I hv time).

Cheers

Thanks for all your feedback msharaf... I am being hit hard with some work-related things right now...but I don't plan on letting the thread die. I will update with your contributions and add some more by week's end.

[bengalih]

Adjust Backlight level while device is locked

-open reg editor
-browse to HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
-change key "LockLevel" from "0" to any number between 1-10.

For this one I have mine set at 5. 10 is the brightest. Adjust to your personal preference.


I used RESCO EXPLORER registry ... and it's one of the best for saving reg entries ...however

the above key change goes full bright for anything other then a "0" and the reg does not "stick" after a soft reset !!! ( works then and there but not after a soft reset )

every other changes sticked ... ( I double checked all my changes ) .... just not this particular one. ( backlight level while locked )

I wonder if there is an issue using this with a pre-cooked ROM. You might want to post in Dutty's thread to see if this is the case.

Can anyone else confirm that this tweak works or does not work?

[bengalih]

*Update*

Main page with my Definitive Guide to MS Voice Command (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391262).

I plan to do this for future posts as well. I will most likely make another informative thread and link it from this one so as to not dilute the main thread.

[Kmak_jop]

I love your idea BENGALIH I am a strong supporter of this concept. I am in jamaica i got my Kaiser about two weeks now and I have been reading these threads for the last three weeks, when I read what you had in mind I decided to do my first post. I am actually one of those people that cant find a rom to suit me, so I just want to let you know I like where this is heading.
I am currently using v1.2 sleuth rom, was using dutty's wm6.1 but didnt like it.

[haam1978]

this thread is the best idea i have seen for a long time in this forum
it's an excellent idea for everyone who can't cook his own room . let's keep it on i will share my experience here
my greeting for مشرف
and the owner of this thread
thank you and thanks for everyone share his exoerience here with us

[msharaf]

*Update*

Main page with my Definitive Guide to MS Voice Command (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391262).

I plan to do this for future posts as well. I will most likely make another informative thread and link it from this one so as to not dilute the main thread.

Quite impressive effort.

If we have the same for each application or ROM we wont need XDA-developers :D

Thanks bengalih

[msharaf]

this thread is the best idea i have seen for a long time in this forum
it's an excellent idea for everyone who can't cook his own room . let's keep it on i will share my experience here
my greeting for مشرف
and the owner of this thread
thank you and thanks for everyone share his exoerience here with us

Thanks my friend, it is a payback for this forum members.

BTW: اسمي م. شرف :D

[kareem9nba]

Thanks my friend, it is a payback for this forum members.

BTW: اسمي م. شرف :D

Nice thread. Still having troubles with Dutty's latest ROM however. btw msharaf, min whean inte :D

[msharaf]

TIP: Backup PIM for flashers

As most of us flash a new ROM at least twice a week, we all need to backup our PIM data (contacts, appointments, Tasks,call log, mails,...) before re-flash.

In WM6.1 PIM remains in 2 files in the root of the device:
pim.vol (All except mails)
cemail.vol (only mails: sms, mms, &emails)You can simply copy pim.vol anytime any where but not cemail.vol which is locked by windows service. This is why most of new backup tools fail to backup mails correctly. But you can not restore the pim.vol while normal windows operations as well.

The Best backup tool is PIMBackup v2.8 for backup and restore
But a fast way is to restore the pim.vol (not mails) is to add the following lines to your SDConfig.txt in UC compliant ROMs:

CPY1:\Storage Card\UC\PIM.vol <--- path of your backup copy
CPY2:\PIM.vol

In that way you will have almost all your data after flashing.

Please note that restore from PIMBackup may add to existing data and not necessarly overwrites it. Hence, you create differential backups that may be restored all together to your final ROM that you will never know :D

Cheers

[msharaf]

Nice thread. Still having troubles with Dutty's latest ROM however. btw msharaf, min whean inte :D

Min Egypt :)

What troubles you have with your ROM?

[kareem9nba]

Cool. I'm having wifi troubles. Bluetooth and wifi don't seem to coexist on this rom and as long as previous versions :(.

[dcdivenut]

I have been reading this thread and I think there is a pretty simple answer.

Get the Kaiser Kitchen from _Alex_
Take his base ultra clean ROM
Download all the add ons and OEM programs you want to have that you don;t think you are going to get upgraded versions of
Download all the registry tweaks you want
Mix, cook, and get exactly what you want.
Install the other programs from cabs on the storage card
I know it is more complicated than that but I have been doing exactly this for some time and I have a super fast ROM that does just what I want and has nothing I don't want.

[bengalih]

I have been reading this thread and I think there is a pretty simple answer.

Get the Kaiser Kitchen from _Alex_
Take his base ultra clean ROM
Download all the add ons and OEM programs you want to have that you don;t think you are going to get upgraded versions of
Download all the registry tweaks you want
Mix, cook, and get exactly what you want.
Install the other programs from cabs on the storage card
I know it is more complicated than that but I have been doing exactly this for some time and I have a super fast ROM that does just what I want and has nothing I don't want.

I love it... preface your post with "Simple answer" and then conclude it with "I know it is more complicated than that."

Exactly...it's always more complicated. That is why this thread is here, to share the knowledge of how to get all the apps to work on ROMs that they aren't cooked into already, and to review and describe all the various tweaks out there.

Too many people are complacent with letting a cook or a kitchen install what they want without understanding what they are getting (and thus possibly causing issues). This thread is for people who WANT to take the longer way around the block to better understand things.

While some of your comment is valid, you apparently have misread what we see as a negative of cooking in any additional apps. If you would like to work with a kitchen, then there are some threads that can assist.

[msharaf]

Cool. I'm having wifi troubles. Bluetooth and wifi don't seem to coexist on this rom and as long as previous versions :(.

I did some tests for you on Dutty last lite version.
I was surfing the net using Wifi while having an active call routed to a Bluetooth headset. It worked without problem!

Can you elaborate your problem.

[bengalih]

TAInstall RAW Tool

Thanks to Tiermann (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=bHi9ha7B4A1L8P600msHe3AuHEAm3ep1JQgkp9wjid ANSLJGdVYiW8X6TZm&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f822cfe4b06d0ea2b4eee6d2d0 c9cb9d63b82c5c6e6c9275b) and his nice Tiered AutoInstall Application (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2:PPC%20Apps&Itemid=2) and I am able to bring you this customized TAInstall RAW tool.

What is Tiered AutoInstall? It is similar to UC in that it will automatically install a preset list of CABs all at once. Unlike UC however, you can pick and choose which CABs to install.

What's RAW? RAW is my terminology for a non-cooked ROM, or rather a ROM without most things cooked in. Get it...raw...cooked...I'm hilarious... I think I just coined the phrase, but it's so obvious someone must have used it before...so if I'm not the inventor, please send me a PM with an earlier post and I will credit whoever! Now, on to the tool!!!

When you install the application it will do the following:

Install 3 files into your \Windows Directory

TAutoInstall.exe - The main tool by Tiermann
TAInstall.lnk - A shortcut to run the tool with my custom parameters
config.txt - A dummy file to be (optionally) customized.

Install a shortcut into Start > Programs > Tools to launchYou must then manually do the following to finish setup:





Create a folder called \CABS in the root of your Storage Card (yes, this really needs a storage card to be useful).
Put all the CABs you want to choose from for installation into this \Storage Card\CABS folder.
OPTIONAL: This final step is only necessary if you want to keep .CABs in additional locations. If you put all your CABS in the folder above you have no need for this. If you want to further customize, then:

Edit the config.txt in your \Windows directory to include additional CABS from locations other than \Storage Card\CABS. Below is an example of what your config.txt should look like:


CAB:\Storage Card\SpbTime2.arm.cab
CAB:\Storage Card\SpbWeather.arm.cab
CAB:\Storage Card\Cabs\Apps\SpbBackup.cab
CAB:\Storage\Card\Cabs\Apps\tomtom_6_032_8351.cab
CAB:\Storage Card\Cabs\MS\LiveSearch.cab
CAB:\Storage Card\Other Cabs\SpbPocketPlus4.arm.cab



That's it! To run the application, just go to Start > Programs > Tools and run TAInstall. The autoinstaller will open and you can check off all the programs you want to install. The app will reboot when done (unless you clear the checkbox under options).

NOTE: A prompt will pop up at runtime that says "You have an untested device." According to the author the Kaiser is supported, and the applications will work. Just click OK to bypass. I am attempting to see if there is a workaround.

[kinmont]

Amazing Thanks!

[vwremglx]

Just a thanks. I'm a tilt owner that wants to have a custom ROM but does not have the time to spend researching all the options. Anyone who is really into it and has the time can spend hours and hours going through the threads on this site and hours and hours flashing and reflashing their phone. It is threads like this one that make tweaking our phones easier for those of us with less time on our hands. I sure wish I had time to spend tweaking my phone. This thread will make the little time that I do have much more productive. I've been waiting for a thread like this for a long time.

Thanks for getting this going. Freaking Awesome.

[bengalih]

I've been waiting for a thread like this for a long time.

Thanks for getting this going. Freaking Awesome.

Thanks...user support will keep it going. In what short travels you may have setting up your tilt, be sure to post some feedback to help others.
Any nice mini-tutorials contained here-in will get linked from the main page.

[kwickone]

Nice thread....and cool Tier AutoInstall package too.

Thanks.

[King of Rapture™]

Excellent my friend. As usual you have outdone yourself. Wonderful tool.

A small suggestion. Can you please replicate your post # 61 on the first page of this thread, maybe in post # 4.

Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work buddy! :)

KOR!

[UnicornKaz]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2199673&postcount=103

:)

set it to "security off" ... it is the basis of all my flashed ROM :p

You might said that some cooked ROM already had things to "security off" ... ah, but look again at the tool's menu of that powertoy though ... its "security off" provided more authorization though ;)

http://i27.tinypic.com/258uref.jpg

[richabi]

I love you for this.

I have had my tilt since the very first day it came out (well, 5 replacements since from warranty exchange haha). I spend COUNTLESS hours, days, weeks, months researching tech stuff and have ran across an unlimited number of cabs that I have had the opportunity to try; I find it entertaining to expand my experience.

I, too, really would just love a basic OEM 6.1 ROM (waaaiiiting for this update from HTC coming this month). I know exactly what I want in my ROM and there is not a bare/naked/vanilla/whatever 6.1 out there.

I have so much to contribute but right now I am a tad bit tired.

I am sure once this HTC update is released as wm 6.1, it will make this thread more complete. I'm thinking then, we could just post and share a buncha neat cabs that we enjoy and feel every phone should have.

Am I on the right track?

[userwag]

Im using HyperDragon II. is a Ultra lite version of Nothrills ROM.
It works great.
you can take a look hare
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386519

[ryncppr]

TAInstall RAW Tool

NOTE: A prompt will pop up at runtime that says "You have an untested device." According to the author the Kaiser is supported, and the applications will work. Just click OK to bypass. I am attempting to see if there is a workaround.

There has to be a work around as Alex has been using this program in his roms for ages....maybe if we ask nicely he will tell us why the "You have an untested device" is poping up

[bengalih]

There has to be a work around as Alex has been using this program in his roms for ages....maybe if we ask nicely he will tell us why the "You have an untested device" is poping up

The version Alex is using is an older version that doesn't accept command line parameters (which are needed in order to work). I have contacted the author and he is aware of the issue (which is an invalid device ID for the kaiser). He states it will be fixed in the next release.

I don't find it a major issue, as even with Alex's it will pop up a box except instead of saying "Invalid Device..." it will say something like "Tiered AutoInstall will now run" so in either case you still have to click ok.

[kwickone]

So not sure if this info is posted anywhere else...I searched briefly....but I have several apps that dont play with with the TA Install. All three of these apps have a extra dialog boxes involved (asking to confirm License or whatnot). Might be a good idea to post them so others might find it in a search.

Apps that don't install (unless I am doing something wrong) with TAInstall:

FlexMail
ListPro
TouchPal v3

Everything else is working GREAT! I love this app!

[bengalih]

So not sure if this info is posted anywhere else...I searched briefly....but I have several apps that dont play with with the TA Install. All three of these apps have a extra dialog boxes involved (asking to confirm License or whatnot). Might be a good idea to post them so others might find it in a search.

Apps that don't install (unless I am doing something wrong) with TAInstall:

FlexMail
ListPro
TouchPal v3

Everything else is working GREAT! I love this app!

Yes, thanks for bringing that up. Any CAB which requires user intervention will not work. This is a limitation of Autorun.exe (which TAutoInstall uses, built-in). I don't think it is necessary to keep a running list of all of these, but it is important to note: if you need to click anything after telling a CAB where to install, you will have an issue.

Please keep your eyes on the threads as I will be releasing another Auto Installer later tonight that you may enjoy more.

[ryncppr]

On the old TAutoInstall you used to be able to have user interface as the buttons on the bottom worked and the [ok] button worked. I just put the version in my Custom Rom and noticed that the following do not install

IM+
Wisbar Advance 3
PhoneAlarm
PocketBreeze

[bengalih]

On the old TAutoInstall you used to be able to have user interface as the buttons on the bottom worked and the [ok] button worked. I just put the version in my Custom Rom and noticed that the following do not install

IM+
Wisbar Advance 3
PhoneAlarm
PocketBreeze

I am using the latest TAutoInstall from the developer. I believe he did decide to remove the OK button, I am not sure the reasoning, other than he was designing this more as a hands-off tool. I am not able to use the older version due to it missing important command line parameters.

Again, any .CAB install which requires user intervention will probably fail to install.

Fear not however, if you are looking for an alternative method, read on...

[bengalih]

** UPDATE: The VIP+bengalih RAW AutoInstaller has been deprecated. This post remains for historical purposes. For the replacement application, see SASHIMI in the next post! **

VIP+bengalih RAW AutoInstaller


Introducing the new VIP+bengalih RAW AutoInstaller, a MortScript based application to help automate configure a newly provisioned device!

What is RAW?
RAW is "uncooked", or rather suitable for use on uncooked, stock, or lite ROMs. It helps users who would prefer to install all of their own apps an easy semi-automated way to do it. Of course it can be be used on cooked ROMs too, we sushi chefs like to share!


FEATURES:

Automated install of .CABS, .REG files, and MortScripts
Manual install of selected .CABS to Storage Card
Importation of directory structures from Storage Card to main memory.
This application is the work of v3patel (VIP) and bengalih.

v3patel's orignal script, "vip_fresh_install v 1.zip" can be found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2196689&postcount=3).
bengalih took the basic code structure, modified and added to it to make it more streamlined, intuitive, and user friendly for suitable use as a RAW AutoInstaller.

At first the RAW AutoInstaller might look complex, but it is actually quite easy and intuitive!

Let's start by looking at how to install:


Step One - Installing the program

Copy the VIP + Bengalih RAW AutoInstall.cab over to your device.
Run the .CAB on your device and choose to INSTALL TO STORAGE CARD
On your Storage Card you should now see a directory in the root called \RAW AutoInstaller
Navigate inside of the directory.
Only perform this next procedure if you do not already have MortScript installed and associated to run .mscr files. If you have MortScript already installed, skip to the next step.

Navigate inside the \Bin directory and run MortScript.exe
You will see a dialog telling you MortScript is registered. Click OK.
Congratulations, you have completed installation!


Step Two - Getting to know the program

Learning how to use RAW AutoInstaller is as simple as understanding its directory structure. Let's look at it now:


Navigate back to \Storage Card\RAW AutoInstaller.
You will see the AutoInstall script as well as the following directories:

Auto
Bin
Manual
Root
Scripts

Let's talk about what goes in each of these directories:

Auto

Inside the Auto directory are two subdirectories, \CAB and \REG. Any .CABs you want installed automatically when the script runs, place in the \CAB directory. Any .REG files you want imported automatically when the script runs, place in the \REG directory.

Bin

This is where the supporting files for the application reside. It's probably a good idea not to touch these.

Manual

This directory is just like the \Auto directory in structure, except files placed within its \CAB and \REG directories won't be automatically installed. You will be prompted to execute each one at runtime.

Root

The \Root directory is like an image of the \Root of your device main memory. Any folders you place in here will be copied to the device's \Root. You will be prompted for each directory at runtime. So, for example, you can place a folder called \RingTones here and then it can be copied to \RingTones in your main memory.

Scripts

You can place additional MortScript files here that will be automatically run during install.

That's it...it's really simple!



One other cool feature is that in addition to putting .REG and .MSCR files in the directories listed above you can name them the same as a .CAB and bundle them with the .CAB directory to be executed along with the install.

So, for example if I have a .CAB called HelloWorld.CAB in either the \Manual\CAB or \Auto\CAB directory, I can place a file called HelloWorld.reg or HelloWorld.mscr in the directory with the .CAB. When the program installs, it will also run the script and import the registry file!

To help you get the hang of it, I have included some sample files in these directories already. Let's walk through a sample AutoInstall:


Step Three - Sample Install Run

To run through a sample install simply do the following:


Run AutoInstall
A prompt will come up asking if you wish to continue. Double-tap YES
The Manual Install Phase will start, enumerating all .CABS in the \Manual\CAB directory and asking if you want to install each one. You can click Yes, in which case it will then prompt for an install location; No, in which case it will move to the next file; or Cancel, which will exit the program. Let's click Yes and then choose to install to \Storage Card.
You will then see a sample script pop-up. This is an example of a .mscr bundled with a .CAB file as mentioned at the end of Step Two. Click OK to close the script.
You will then feel a quick vibrate. This is the .CAB's bundled .REG file being silently imported.
Next you will prompted to install the sample .REG file from \Manual\REG. Click Yes to import it.
After all Manual .CABs and .REGs have been installed, it will prompt to move over the \Root structure. Click Yes to copy over \Program Files
Now the Automated Install Phase will start, you will feel some quick vibrates. These vibrates are to let you know that .CAB and .REG files are being run in the background. Each one does a 100ms vibrate to let you know that things are still going on, even though you can't see them!
After all automated .CABs and .REGs run, the \Scripts folder gets processed. You will see another message pop up from the sample script in this location. Click Ok.
You will be asked to reset the device. You can click NO or wait
10 seconds and it will reboot automatically.

The AutoInstall is now complete. Let's check some file and registry entries to see if everything installed properly!


The following should exist if you followed the instructions in Step Three:

\Storage Card\Program Files\VIP + Bengalih\Manual Install CAB Test\ManualInstallOK.txt
\Program Files\VIP + Bengalih\Auto Install CAB Test\AutoInstallOK.txt
\Program Files\AutoInstall Test\DirCopyTest.txt
HKLM\Software\VIP-Bengalih\RAW AutoInstaller\Test\AutoCheck - OK
HKLM\Software\VIP-Bengalih\RAW AutoInstaller\Test\ManualCheck - OK
HKLM\Software\VIP-Bengalih\RAW AutoInstaller\Test\CAB Registry - OK
Once you've double checked everything is where it should be you can delete all of the above as well as the sample files from within the \Storage Card\RAW AutoInstaller directory structure.


Now all that's left is to put your own .CAB applications, .REG files, and .MSCR scripts into the proper directories and run it for yourself!

enjoy!

IMPORTANT NOTE: When using this or any other AutoInstaller be sure to set your device to Disable Security Warning for Unsigned CABs. You can find out how to perform this registry tweak in the main guide at the beginning of this thread.

[bengalih]

** THIS POST IS LEFT FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES. GET THE LATEST VERSION OF SASHIMI > HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983)<**

[_Alex_]

This is great information and +1 for bengalih for compiling it. But, it's going to get lost if it's not linked somewhere and it's hard for others to contribute since it's just a thread.

I'd like to suggest putting all of this in the wiki and using this thread for discussion of ideas and possible updates. This way, it's in a place that's easily found and anyone can contribute.

[overhaulengines]

very nice, just installed so far so good. installed my cabs no problem, instruction to do this are pretty clear.
i have been reading about UC from slueth on how it install my setting for my email, not having much luck understanding, got it to install my cabs no problem. next i am trying to learn how to copy my email settings, i dont know if this can be done with this program? and if you can help me do this, its only 1 email account pop3 so not much info.

thanks

Lupe

[v3patel]

[QUOTE=bengalih;2202537]bengalih's...
....QUOTE]

Thanks for nice app.I am going to start using it when it's time for next flash.
Thanks again for putting my name as credit.

[v3patel]

very nice, just installed so far so good. installed my cabs no problem, instruction to do this are pretty clear.
i have been reading about UC from slueth on how it install my setting for my email, not having much luck understanding, got it to install my cabs no problem. next i am trying to learn how to copy my email settings, i dont know if this can be done with this program? and if you can help me do this, its only 1 email account pop3 so not much info.

thanks

Lupe

I forget where I got link from but all you need to for email setting is create XML file convert it to cab file and put it in CAB directory.
hint search for MAKECAB.EXE or _setup.xml or 7B3D74EC-35D9-45e3-B8F3-E38F4B90D174
or go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362684

[overhaulengines]

I forget where I got link from but all you need to for email setting is create XML file convert it to cab file and put it in CAB directory.
hint search for MAKECAB.EXE or _setup.xml or 7B3D74EC-35D9-45e3-B8F3-E38F4B90D174
or go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362684

hello, thanks for the reply, i did some searching, what i found is what i need, the only problem is i dont speak greek:o, :D, this is what i found from shogun, which is the link you provided the below that is from slueth uc and then the info i want to enter, thanks in advance.

shogun

I havent had to set up a pop3 account yet, but according to M$ here is the xml code for it:

Code:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="EMAIL2">
<characteristic type="{GUID}">
<parm name="SERVICENAME" value="example.com"/>
<parm name="SERVICETYPE" value="POP3"/>
<parm name="INSERVER" value="myemail.example.com"/>
<parm name="OUTSERVER" value="myemail.example.com"/>
<parm name="AUTHREQUIRED" value="1"/>
<characteristic type="TAGPROPS">
<parm name="8128000B" value="1"/>
<parm name="812C000B" value="1"/>
</characteristic>
<parm name="AUTHNAME" value="someone@example.com"/>
<parm name="AUTHSECRET" value="password"/>
<parm name="REPLYADDR" value="someone@example.com"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

from slueth uc

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="EMAIL2">
<characteristic type="{7B3D74EC-35D9-45e3-B8F3-E38F4B90D174}">
<parm name="SERVICENAME" value="Gmail" />
<parm name="SERVICETYPE" value="IMAP4" />
<parm name="INSERVER" value="imap.gmail.com" />
<parm name="OUTSERVER" value="smtp.gmail.com" />
<parm name="NAME" value="Username" />
<parm name="AUTHNAME" value="login@gmail.com" />
<parm name="AUTHSECRET" value="password" />
<parm name="DOMAIN" value="" />
<parm name="REPLYADDR" value="login@gmail.com" />
<parm name="LINGER" value="15" />
<parm name="RETRIEVE" value="-1" />
<parm name="KEEPMAX" value="-1" />
<parm name="DWNDAY" value="3" />
<parm name="AUTHREQUIRED" value="1" />
<parm name="SMTPALTENABLED" value="1" />
<parm name="SMTPALTAUTHNAME" value="login@gmail.com" />
<parm name="SMTPALTPASSWORD" value="password" />
<parm name="SMTPALTDOMAIN" value="smtp.gmail.com" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="EMAIL2">
<characteristic type="{877e6100-cd6d-4a44-bd4c-3edf4b901480}">
<parm name="SERVICENAME" value="Gmail1" />
<parm name="SERVICETYPE" value="IMAP4" />
<parm name="INSERVER" value="imap.gmail.com" />
<parm name="OUTSERVER" value="smtp.gmail.com" />
<parm name="NAME" value="Username" />
<parm name="AUTHNAME" value="login1@gmail.com" />
<parm name="AUTHSECRET" value="password1" />
<parm name="DOMAIN" value="" />
<parm name="REPLYADDR" value="login1@gmail.com" />
<parm name="LINGER" value="15" />
<parm name="RETRIEVE" value="-1" />
<parm name="KEEPMAX" value="-1" />
<parm name="DWNDAY" value="3" />
<parm name="AUTHREQUIRED" value="1" />
<parm name="SMTPALTENABLED" value="1" />
<parm name="SMTPALTAUTHNAME" value="login1@gmail.com" />
<parm name="SMTPALTPASSWORD" value="password1" />
<parm name="SMTPALTDOMAIN" value="smtp.gmail.com" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>XML Creation FAQ

im not sure which one to use:confused:

when i select "setup new email account" this is what is ask for
email adress
password
then i click next
"email provider" i select "internet mail" from the drop down list
then i click next
then i enter my name "lupe dimas"
and account display name "aircraftoverhauls"
next
incoming mail server "64.143.53.XX
account type i select "pop3"
next
user name lupe
password "XXXXXXX"
next
outgoing server "64.143.53.xx"
next next finish

any help will be greatly appreciated. :), then can this be dropped into the reg folder.

lupe

[Moe5508]

...but I am not about to have a debate as to the merits of my idea.

I definitely love this idea man - thanks for all your effort and hardwork in driving this!!!!!

[bengalih]

hello, thanks for the reply, i did some searching, what i found is what i need, the only problem is i dont speak greek:o, :D, this is what i found from shogun, which is the link you provided the below that is from slueth uc and then the info i want to enter, thanks in advance.

shogun

I havent had to set up a pop3 account yet, but according to M$ here is the xml code for it:

Code:
....
any help will be greatly appreciated. :), then can this be dropped into the reg folder.

lupe

Ok...overhaul. Basically you create an XML document (plain text with proper formatting) that includes the code you want from above. You would use a CSP section for EMAIL2 like you show in your post.

Once you have your XML file you have several choices. If you want to use the XML file with my SASHIMI installer you would have to rename it to _setup.xml and thenpackage it as a .cab file and then just install it like any other .CAB. If you do a search on those terms you should find some threads to assist if you don't already know how to make a cab.

You can also go into SASHIMI's \Bin directory and open up the TaskMgr.exe program in there. There is an option to import a provisioning XML which should also work. I plan on adding an automatic XML feature to SASHIMI in the next release, so in the meantime you have to either follow the .CAB packager route or manual import the XML with another app.

[bengalih]

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[bengalih]

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[bengalih]

holding.......

[bengalih]

last one....

[userwag]

ok bengalih, i think the new HTC official ROM is the best option now for this threath.
I mean since it looks that we are not going to get nothing better.

[kwickone]

EDIT: Nevermind bengalih! I uninstalled my other version of Mortscript, did a soft reset, then did your Initialize Mortscript. That fixed it. Thanks.

Hey bengalih, this is my first run of the SASHIMI variation of your tool. I just installed V3.0a.

I am getting the following error when I try to run SASHIMI the first time:

Invalid parameter for 'ChoiceDefault'
Line 89 (\Storage Card\SASHIMI\SASHIMI.mscr):
choiceDefault = 5

Any thoughts?

I installed to Storage Card
I previously installed Mortscript (to main mem) so I did not run the Initialize Mortscript
I have only CABs in both Auto\CABS and Manual\CABS dirs.

The ROM I just flashed to test was shogumarks Death v2

Thanks.

[bengalih]

EDIT: Nevermind bengalih! I uninstalled my other version of Mortscript, did a soft reset, then did your Initialize Mortscript. That fixed it. Thanks.
....

Yeah, it's possible earlier versions of mortscript don't support all the code I used. I meant to incorporate a check into my script, but didn't get around to it yet.

[aadadams]

In my haste to clean up the directories I deleted the sample regexport.ini. Where shoud the custom version be located? Does there exist a list of common keys to back up and restore? I chose:
[MySettings]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
key1 = HKCU\Comm
key2 = HKCU\ControlPanel\Owner
key3 = HKLM\Time

[MySoftware]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
key1 = HKCU\Software
key2 = HKLM\Software

Dependeing on how this works, I may try to do this with individual keys for all the apps that I have to register.

[bengalih]

In my haste to clean up the directories I deleted the sample regexport.ini. Where shoud the custom version be located? Does there exist a list of common keys to back up and restore? I chose:
[MySettings]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
key1 = HKCU\Comm
key2 = HKCU\ControlPanel\Owner
key3 = HKLM\Time

[MySoftware]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
key1 = HKCU\Software
key2 = HKLM\Software

Dependeing on how this works, I may try to do this with individual keys for all the apps that I have to register.

regexport.ini goes in \bin

There isn't a common list that I have, there are so many reg hacks to choose from... but your second file should contain most of the customization that software does (in terms of registering).

[v3patel]

Since you added registry backup, can you also add file back up in your next release?

This is what I am currently using.
call ("backupfile", "\Windows", "claunch", "\Storage Card\2577\root\Windows\", "claunch", "dat")
call ("backupfile", "\Program Files\phoneAlarm\", "pa_Export", "\Storage Card\2577\root\Program Files\phoneAlarm\", "pa_Export", "txt")
call ("backupfile", "\Program Files\UltimateLaunch\", "UltimateLaunch", "\Storage Card\2577\root\Program Files\UltimateLaunch\", "UltimateLaunch", "ini")
crdtbk=1
backupfol="\Storage Card\PIM Backup"
call ("backupfile", "\Windows", "claunch", backupfol, "claunch", "dat")
call ("backupfile", "\Program Files\phoneAlarm\", "pa_Export", backupfol, "pa_Export", "txt")
call ("backupfile", "\Program Files\UltimateLaunch\", "UltimateLaunch", backupfol, "UltimateLaunch", "ini")

message("All Done")
Sub backupfile
fd=argv[1]
fn=argv[2]
td=argv[3]
tf=argv[4]
fe=argv[5]
fromfile= fd \ fn & "." & fe
tobakupfile= td \ fn & "." & fe
tofile=td \ fn & "_" & FormatTime("ymdHis") & "." & fe
f1exist = FileExists(fromfile)
If (f1exist = 0)
message( "File " & fromfile & " does not exists")
Else
copy (fromfile, tobakupfile, 1)
if (crdtbk=1)
copy (fromfile, tofile, 1)
f1exist = FileExists(tofile)
If (f1exist = 0)
message( "File copy error " & fromfile & " to " & tofile)
#else
# message( "File copy " & fromfile & " to " & tofile)
Endif
EndIf
EndIf
EndSub

[bengalih]

Since you added registry backup, can you also add file back up in your next release?

This is what I am currently using.

Yeah I can look into this...might not use that exact code structure, an INI file the reg export would probably be more user friendly.

I also have been able to fairly well automate the Auto Install phase to install to storage card...so that will be in the next release.

tell me v3...do you like where I've taken this so far?

[aadadams]

@bengalih,
This application is awesome. Great work. I have one request. Make a single thread dedicated to Sashimi 3.0a. Consolidate the instructions and etc. in a new thread. It is a bit hard to follow what applies to this version as opposed to previous versions. Everyone needs to see what this application is capable of and right now it seems a bit hidden within the threads. And, when possible creating a wiki entry would be great as well.

[bengalih]

@bengalih,
This application is awesome. Great work. I have one request. Make a single thread dedicated to Sashimi 3.0a. Consolidate the instructions and etc. in a new thread. It is a bit hard to follow what applies to this version as opposed to previous versions. Everyone needs to see what this application is capable of and right now it seems a bit hidden within the threads. And, when possible creating a wiki entry would be great as well.


Yeah...I agree it got spread out a little. I wanted to put it in this thread initially as it was one of my major weapons for stock/lite ROMs... but then realized many people might not see it so I created a separate post advertising it and linking it here....

For now I am going to leave it as is, since it really is only two threads. Also, there really hasn't been much feedback. There have been over 300 downloads between v.2 and v.3, but only a few people have commented or asked for help.

I can only expect that people aren't really using it, or are using it and not having any issues (which I hope is the case, as I tried to make it fairly error-proof). Anyway, with the next version I will do as you suggest and start a new thread with everything in there and do away with embedding it in this thread.

[aadadams]

Sounds like a winner to me. One sugestion on the subject of registry exporting. I am pretty investigative and it was not immediately obvious to me what I need to do to get my owner info and etc. to be exported. Maybe the default *.ini could include those entries so people without the tech ability could use it without much trouble. I am still optimizing mine... so I am not the best candidate to offer up the template... But, in a subsequet version this may be a great idea. Usage will increase when this penetrates the masses.

I agree IMO with no feedback the 300 downloaders must not be having any issues... because this application is very good and very well documented.

[overhaulengines]

I can only expect that people aren't really using it, or are using it and not having any issues (which I hope is the case, as I tried to make it fairly error-proof). Anyway, with the next version I will do as you suggest and start a new thread with everything in there and do away with embedding it in this thread.

this stuff is awesome, i doing stuff that i wanted to do with uc but could not figure it out, your instructions are very, very helpful.
i love the fact that i can use auto to install my purchased cabs like spb pocket plus, spb weather, spb mobile shell, then use the manual to install my cab that i like and if they are already cooked in, i can skip them, its also perfect for the cabs that need reboot ie. spb phone suite, or like google where you have to accept user agreement. i dont reboot and go to the next cab. then once im done i reboot.
The next great thing is a finally figure out how to back up using the reg editor, for my photo contact, email setting, all my spb settings.
i have not used the custom export part, but i used the reg editor and exported the items i wanted backed up and then dropped them it the manual-reg folder and bamm , i love this.
again IMHO much better that uc , i know, i know, your to humble my brother, "this was not meant to replace uc" well for me it has:)

lupe

[bengalih]

Thanks for the feedback guys. To the first point, I would be happy to include a default regexport.ini with some more settings... if people want to contribute. I think I stated before there are just so many location that people may want to backup and threads that deal with many of them. Maybe once I get the new thread for the next version, people will share regexport.ini's in there.

As to your process overhaul...i hope to improve it in the next version as i have come up with a way in the Auto phase to install CABs to the storage card as well. This way you can have your cabs auto install to main memory, storage, or both. Of course, and CAB that needs user interaction will still work best in manual mode.

[v3patel]

Yeah I can look into this...might not use that exact code structure, an INI file the reg export would probably be more user friendly.

I also have been able to fairly well automate the Auto Install phase to install to storage card...so that will be in the next release.

tell me v3...do you like where I've taken this so far?

Wonderfull, and great application that I am not even using my own script.

Few thing that i want to see.
using sktool this is not a freeware.
Exporting in rgu format which I can not read using text editior.
2577 folder need to move to one folder up not in SASHIMI folder.
As you are including tskmgr and sktool that also create shortcut for those application.


But it is oneof the application that I going to have on my storage card replcing my own.

[Moe5508]

...do you like where I've taken this so far?

Absolutely love the app! I no longer run the UC autoscript straight after a hard reset preferring rather to do it using SASHIMI after installing a couple of basic apps and cleaning out my SD.

Bring on the new features! Great work dude. :D

[overhaulengines]

Absolutely love the app! I no longer run the UC autoscript straight after a hard reset preferring rather to do it using SASHIMI after installing a couple of basic apps and cleaning out my SD.

Bring on the new features! Great work dude. :D

i totally agree, i find this to be the best for me as far as getting up and going after a flash, instructions are as close to perfect as i have seen.

thanks again

Lupe

[bengalih]

Wonderfull, and great application that I am not even using my own script.

Few thing that i want to see.
using sktool this is not a freeware.
Exporting in rgu format which I can not read using text editior.
2577 folder need to move to one folder up not in SASHIMI folder.
As you are including tskmgr and sktool that also create shortcut for those application.


But it is oneof the application that I going to have on my storage card replcing my own.

The version of sktools I install is the "trial" version...it is not warez. The trial version has some limitations, but for the purpose of the script it works fine. This is the only program I have found which is capable of doing a command line registry export. Although it might be possible to recursively enumerate the registry in MortScript, it is bound to be problematic because of the different registry types.

The exported RGU from sktools does seem to export the RGU without proper line breaks in a Unix-style format. There doesn't seem to be a way around this as I stated above it is the only tool available that can do a command line regsitry export.

The 2577 folder is a "system" folder. To allow autorun on an ARM system, a 2577 needs to be created in the root of the storage card and a file called autorun.exe needs to be placed in that location. There is no other way to get autorun off SC to work. Although it would be nice to have everything in the SASHIMI folder this is not possible. This is why however I created just a small script to call SASHIMI, so you only have to move the 2577 folder and not the whole application.

As far as the shortcuts... I didn't do this for two reasons:
1) User may already have these applications installed in another location.
2) SKTools from the GUI is not really worth having in its trial version, as it limits to only 6 entries. Again, it works from the script since we use command-line.

So, I can't really fix any of the above. If we can find another command-line registry exporter than maybe we can fix the rgu issue.

[bsw11]

Hi,

This is a wonderful APP!

My only question is in the auto mode, is it possible to make an application install to the storage card without having to answer any questions?

This has probably been covered, but I could not find it.

My guess is probably not, since no one else seems to be able to do it.

Thanks!

[bengalih]

Hi,

This is a wonderful APP!

My only question is in the auto mode, is it possible to make an application install to the storage card without having to answer any questions?

This has probably been covered, but I could not find it.

My guess is probably not, since no one else seems to be able to do it.

Thanks!

Yes... in new version, due out within a week or so. :)

[v3patel]

Yes... in new version, due out within a week or so. :)

you can use http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/cabinstl.shtml and create scrip to insatall from command line
like cabinstl.exe #name(cab file) #path(path to install).

[bengalih]

you can use http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/cabinstl.shtml and create scrip to insatall from command line
like cabinstl.exe #name(cab file) #path(path to install).

I have used cabinstl a dozen times and it never appears to work. I don't use the command-line (to prevent any errors), but rather the GUI.

What is weird is that the first time I tried it I thought it worked for me, but I have tried it many times since and cannot get it to work.

If you have it working can you tell which .CAB you are successfully installing it with and whether you are using WM6 or 6.1? This was supposed to work on WM5, but it hasn't been working for me.

thx

[bsw11]

1 - If I have my SASHIMI folder all set up, then do a new ROM, if I install SASHIMI again, it puts all your sample stuff back in the folders again which I took the time to remove. Is there a simple way around this?

2 - Does anyone have an Email info setup save and restore program - this seems like the last great pain to deal with?

3 - If I need to force an order of events - like install cab1, then cab2, then do the registry imports - how is that done - both Auto and Manual?

[overhaulengines]

1 - If I have my SASHIMI folder all set up, then do a new ROM, if I install SASHIMI again, it puts all your sample stuff back in the folders again which I took the time to remove. Is there a simple way around this?

2 - Does anyone have an Email info setup save and restore program - this seems like the last great pain to deal with?

3 - If I need to force an order of events - like install cab1, then cab2, then do the registry imports - how is that done - both Auto and Manual?

hello,
1. i do not reinstall SASHIMI, its already on my card, everything i need is there, the only thing that i found that is missing is the shortcuts in programs.
go to SAMHIMI In on your storage card, go to bin, i click mortscript, ok, then go back and click SASHIMI, the program run the same for me.
2. i used this program for my email setting, then placed the xml in auto or man xml folder,
http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3:personal-oemizer&catid=1:Desktop&Itemid=3
3. this is called tandem, check the first page, i believe you put the cab in auto or man, let say its called spb weather.cab, right after this put the reg file and name it the same . spb weather.reg, , pretty sure, look around..

here it is tandem

One other cool feature is that in addition to putting .REG, .XML, and .MSCR files in their respective directories you can also place them in the .CAB directory with a name that is the same as the .CAB's (but with their different extenstion). This will cause these files to be automatically Imported/Provisioned/Executed when the .CAB file is installed. These are called "tandem files" and the process is called "bundling."




So, for example if I have a .CAB called HelloWorld.CAB in either the \Manual\CAB or \Auto\CAB directory, I can place a file called HelloWorld.reg in the directory with the .CAB. When the program installs, it will also run the script and import the registry file!




good luck

Lupe

[bengalih]

1 - If I have my SASHIMI folder all set up, then do a new ROM, if I install SASHIMI again, it puts all your sample stuff back in the folders again which I took the time to remove. Is there a simple way around this?

2 - Does anyone have an Email info setup save and restore program - this seems like the last great pain to deal with?

3 - If I need to force an order of events - like install cab1, then cab2, then do the registry imports - how is that done - both Auto and Manual?

If SASHIMI is instaled on your Storage Card (which it should be), then you don't need to reinstall it after Flashing. Simple go into the SASHIMI\BIN folder and click on "mortscript.exe" to reregister MortScript. Then in the main folder run SASHIMI and go into the Additional Tools and recreate the shortcuts.

As far as forcing events. The order it goes is Manual, then Auto, within those phases it goes like this:

1) Process each CAB folder like so:

Import bundled/tandem REG files
Install CAB
Provision bundled/tandem XML files
Run bundled/tandem .MSCR scripts
2) Import stand-alone REG files in \REG
3) Provision stand-alone XML files in \XML
4) Copy folder structure in \Root
5) Run stand-alone .MSCR scripts in \Scripts

I think it processes files in each directory in alphabetical order, but not sure.

[v3patel]

I have used cabinstl a dozen times and it never appears to work. I don't use the command-line (to prevent any errors), but rather the GUI.

What is weird is that the first time I tried it I thought it worked for me, but I have tried it many times since and cannot get it to work.

If you have it working can you tell which .CAB you are successfully installing it with and whether you are using WM6 or 6.1? This was supposed to work on WM5, but it hasn't been working for me.

thx

I have used it with version 1.3 and it work on wm5 long ago. I have not used lately as my own script and now SASHIMI is doing what i needed to do. beacuse using this I do not need to install any cab in SCard. as I normallly extract cab and place in my SC/PF folder. and those needed to be in Windows folder or somewahere else on main root folder I just copy those files in root folder of SASHIMI or vip_fresh_install. un fortunately I do not have version 1.3. i only have 1.4 for now.

[bengalih]

I have used it with version 1.3 and it work on wm5 long ago. I have not used lately as my own script and now SASHIMI is doing what i needed to do. beacuse using this I do not need to install any cab in SCard. as I normallly extract cab and place in my SC/PF folder. and those needed to be in Windows folder or somewahere else on main root folder I just copy those files in root folder of SASHIMI or vip_fresh_install. un fortunately I do not have version 1.3. i only have 1.4 for now.

Ok...I'm sure that if 1.3 worked then 1.4 would have a better chance of working. But, as you said that wan on WM5. I tested it again and it still doesn't work for me....so I don't think they have been able to update it. I have come up with a novel way to do it, which I will have in the new version.

I will probably release the new version this weekend perhaps and leave the PIM stuff until the next version.

[bengalih]

SASHIMI 4.5 is now available (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983) for those who were tracking it in this thread.

[bengalih]

For those still interested in the Stock/Lite concepts, I have released a new set of lite ROMS. See pose #2 for more info, or jump right to the ROM thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429117).

Also, SASHIMI has been updated to 7.5 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983)