Kaiser would not load with a SIM card in

[azik]

Hi there.

I've got this Kaiser that doesn't load when the SIM is inserted.
It works perfectly without the SIM. Also when the device is on and i stick the sim card it shuts down.
Its not on warranty or anything, also aint mine, but if i fix it i get to keep it(i hope) so please help if u know how to.

[PsyOpWarlord]

I've got this Kaiser that doesn't load when the SIM is inserted.


Have you tried a different SIM card?


Also when the device is on and i stick the sim card it shuts down.


Thats normal. The SIM card should be inserted/removed with the device off.

[azik]

Have you tried a different SIM card?



Thats normal. The SIM card should be inserted/removed with the device off.

Just did it again to make sure. Completely powered off the device by removing the battery, inserted the SIM, turned it on. When it got the green Windows Mobile screen it just died.
Also tried it with a different SIM from a different operator

[svcglobal]

Give more info about your device such ROM, radio, SIM unlocked or no, HardSPL, etc...

[P1Tater]

Just did it again to make sure. Completely powered off the device by removing the battery, inserted the SIM, turned it on. When it got the green Windows Mobile screen it just died.
Also tried it with a different SIM from a different operator

I am purely going on a guess here. Is the phone stolen or did someone just find it? Sounds to me like the SIM has been locked as well as the IMEI by the original service provider. If you insert the SIM card while it is powered off and then power it on and it doesn't boot bast the windows screen and with the SIM card out, it boots normally, sounds like a service lockdown on a phone reported stolen or lost.

[azik]

Give more info about your device such ROM, radio, SIM unlocked or no, HardSPL, etc...

ROM: dutty's WM6.1 (the lat one from here)
radio version: 1.65.14.06
protocol 25.81.40.02W

I have also HardSPLed it. It was doing the same with factory settings and it does the same after i updated everything to the most recent version.

[azik]

I am purely going on a guess here. Is the phone stolen or did someone just find it? Sounds to me like the SIM has been locked as well as the IMEI by the original service provider. If you insert the SIM card while it is powered off and then power it on and it doesn't boot bast the windows screen and with the SIM card out, it boots normally, sounds like a service lockdown on a phone reported stolen or lost.

The unit was bought in a bulk by local British Petroleum (BP) office, so the stolen or found unit version doesn’t really suit the case and nobody is really gonna deal with warranty because of one device.

Also it shuts itself down very quickly. Normally the green screen lasts about 15 seconds or so. With a SIM card in it wouldn’t even last 3 secs, therefore it doesn’t even get connected to the network (I think) and shuts itself down.. Also if the IMEI is blacklisted I don’t think the network has the ability to shut down the device, you just won’t be able to make or receive calls.

[svcglobal]

ROM: dutty's WM6.1 (the lat one from here)
radio version: 1.65.14.06
protocol 25.81.40.02W

I have also HardSPLed it. It was doing the same with factory settings and it does the same after i updated everything to the most recent version.

Are you absolutely sure that the SIM is being inserted correctly? Look at the drawn on the SIM's lock door.

[azik]

Are you absolutely sure that the SIM is being inserted correctly? Look at the drawn on the SIM's lock door.

I was hoping that it would have been something simple like that. but no, i was dealing too much with these HTC's. I will post a video of what it does later on today.

[azik]

here's the video (http://cid-d2a5ad32533914e7.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/kaiser.mp4)

[P1Tater]

here's the video (http://cid-d2a5ad32533914e7.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/kaiser.mp4)

If you leave the sim card out does it boot normally?

[azik]

OK right after i made the video i left it on charge for couple of hours. i picked it up, turned it on and it booted up. it didnt boot with a sim card for a week and now it does. (i sound like a dumb blonde now)

HOWEVER

it wouldnt register on the network. it doesnt matter wheather it is automatic or manual it just doesnt get connected. i can do a manual search and see the list of networks but when i select my provider it doesnt connect. no probs with the network as i use it in my Herald.

[azik]

UPDATE

Overhere we have two main mobile operators. One is Bakcell another one is Azercell.
What happens now is that it works fine with Bakcell chips but doesnt with Azercell.

Both of the operators arent that advanced yet to have some sort of restrictions etc to ban the handset or whatever. They dont even have 3G so there.

So, there i am. Stuck with an operator i do not need anyways(cuz the company is not paying for it:-)) What could be a possible solution?

[svcglobal]

Interesting, any chance to get another Azercell SIM, just for be sure that is really the network?
So many (as you said) blonde mistakes, so double check every test.

[azik]

Interesting, any chance to get another Azercell SIM, just for be sure that is really the network?
So many (as you said) blonde mistakes, so double check every test.

i did check it with two Azercell SIMs. i also have a UK T Mobile SIM, which wudnt register on Azercell but works on Bakcell.

[dunha]

Do you guys think a radio downgrade would solve this issue ?