Couple of Questions before I flash

[FloatingFatMan]

Hi guys,

I'm finally getting around to flashing my stock Vario III after loads of hemming and hawing, but before I do; I have a question or two for you.

1) If I go to WM6.1, can I use my Sprite Backup files to restore my installed apps? I've heard I can't, but would like to confirm.

2) As there are so many ROMs to choose from, are there any for WM6.1 that are as close as possibly to the official T-Mobile ROM my phone shipped with? My primary requirement in a new ROM is stability and usability, but I'd like it to be as fast as possible too.

3) Which pagepool size renders the best performance?

My thanks to those that may answer, and a big wet raspberry to anyone that tell me to search the forum! (I did!) :p

[P1Tater]

Hi guys,

I'm finally getting around to flashing my stock Vario III after loads of hemming and hawing, but before I do; I have a question or two for you.

1) If I go to WM6.1, can I use my Sprite Backup files to restore my installed apps? I've heard I can't, but would like to confirm.

2) As there are so many ROMs to choose from, are there any for WM6.1 that are as close as possibly to the official T-Mobile ROM my phone shipped with? My primary requirement in a new ROM is stability and usability, but I'd like it to be as fast as possible too.

3) Which pagepool size renders the best performance?

My thanks to those that may answer, and a big wet raspberry to anyone that tell me to search the forum! (I did!) :p


1. No. Only if you use the same rom. Use UC to install your apps. Its real easy.
2. Cant tell you that. It's a personal preference thing. Only you can answer that.
3. I like 18.

[FloatingFatMan]

Thanks. I know 2 is mainly a personal preference thing, but I'd rather find one that's as similar to the shipped rom as I can, without all the extra trimmings that people add. Hence I was asking if there were any like that, beyond that NoFrills one.

Oh, BTW.. What's UC? Could you expand the abbreviation please?

[NotATreoFan]

Thanks. I know 2 is mainly a personal preference thing, but I'd rather find one that's as similar to the shipped rom as I can, without all the extra trimmings that people add. Hence I was asking if there were any like that, beyond that NoFrills one.

Oh, BTW.. What's UC? Could you expand the abbreviation please?

UC us User Customization. It was developed on this site to allow people to 1-tap install all of their applications after flashing a new ROM. It works the same way as carrier customization after a hard reset.

The NoThrills ROM floating around here is quite good for someone looking for a very basic ROM so there are no unused/wasted applications on your phone. Until the Apr 09 Dutty ROM came around, I was running NoThrills since the day it came out, and was very satisfied with it.

[P1Tater]

Thanks. I know 2 is mainly a personal preference thing, but I'd rather find one that's as similar to the shipped rom as I can, without all the extra trimmings that people add. Hence I was asking if there were any like that, beyond that NoFrills one.

Oh, BTW.. What's UC? Could you expand the abbreviation please?

This link should give you all of the information you need.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337&highlight=User+customization

[FloatingFatMan]

Ah, that thread! Thanks guys. :)

[P1Tater]

Ah, that thread! Thanks guys. :)

No problem. Just remember, once you flash, you're hooked. Welcome to rom flashers anon.

[RizwanKhan]

No problem. Just remember, once you flash, you're hooked. Welcome to rom flashers anon.


P1Tater, i so agree to that ... I have flashed so many roms since i have joined xda that my wife is at the brink of taking my phone away from me... lol :-D.

But to be honest FloatingFatMan it really is dependent on your taste for me i can't get away from Dutty's roms as they are very nicely put together (although am patiently waiting for final release of xda live 2.0). And if you don't like the rom you flash just go back to the oem (should be able to find it around here, i got my att oem rom from here just in case i need.

However i must say on thing you are quite patient ... member since 2005 and not flashed once???... i only joined in april and can't stop flashing ... hehehe

[moonray]

member since 2005 and not flashed once???... i only joined in april and can't stop flashing ... hehehe

I have my hesitations for flashing too... it looks too complicated, at least the first time. So far, I have not tried... using Vista makes it look very difficult too.

Any specific tips here? BTW, as far as searching the forum is concerned, I have read them all... almost :)

[futbolkeeper]

I have my hesitations for flashing too... it looks too complicated, at least the first time. So far, I have not tried... using Vista makes it look very difficult too.

Any specific tips here? BTW, as far as searching the forum is concerned, I have read them all... almost :)

I really do think the Wiki's and FAQ's have a lot to offer. That is how I learned to flash and customize. It seems like the hardest part(insert joke) is the first time set up stuff like Hard SPL, Jump SPL, etc. But after that you start to tweak your device more, it gets easier. Sprinkle in a little UC(User Customizations) and then your hooked. You'll start looking for and trying any and every ROM out there. I know people get annoyed when all of us say to read but it's the only way to learn and understand the stuff. It's all laid out for you, you just have to use it and soak it all in. And if you have really read and made an honest effort to learn on your own(and we can tell) lots of people here are more than willing to help, we've all been there. It's just when we read all the redundant questions that have already been answered that some get their blow torches out.

[RizwanKhan]

I have my hesitations for flashing too... it looks too complicated, at least the first time. So far, I have not tried... using Vista makes it look very difficult too.

Any specific tips here? BTW, as far as searching the forum is concerned, I have read them all... almost :)

no doubt, after all the tytn II is an expensive toy and u would have a hard time justifying it to urself if u bricked it on ur first atempt. but honestly its fairly ez first u need to get hardspl and after that flash any rom for kaiser u like. i have xp so not sure about issues w/vista but if u pm me i can tell u how i did it and hopefully that will help.

also read the first sticky, everything in it, in the Kaiser rom development form it should clear up alot of hesitations.

p.s. can't include links to threads as i am at work on my tilt :-)

[tubaking182]

I have my hesitations for flashing too... it looks too complicated, at least the first time. So far, I have not tried... using Vista makes it look very difficult too.

Any specific tips here? BTW, as far as searching the forum is concerned, I have read them all... almost :)

hey buddy, honestly there is nothing hard about flashing with vista, just to be safe i downloaded everything to make my comp more like xp, but i used a friends and only installed WMDC, winrar, and the ROM. i love flashing and so long as you have HardSPL on your kaiser then everything will go just fine. any questions feel free to pm me and i'll do my best to answer within an hour, i basically live on this site

[FloatingFatMan]

P1Tater, i so agree to that ... I have flashed so many roms since i have joined xda that my wife is at the brink of taking my phone away from me... lol :-D.

But to be honest FloatingFatMan it really is dependent on your taste for me i can't get away from Dutty's roms as they are very nicely put together (although am patiently waiting for final release of xda live 2.0). And if you don't like the rom you flash just go back to the oem (should be able to find it around here, i got my att oem rom from here just in case i need.

However i must say on thing you are quite patient ... member since 2005 and not flashed once???... i only joined in april and can't stop flashing ... hehehe


Oh I've flashed my old Magician a few times... :p I'm not the slightest bit worried about bricking my devices either. I've read everything and am pretty confident.

No, my reason for hesitation is that I'm basically a lazy bugger and the thought of reinstalling all my apps is irritating. ;) Besides.. With so many ROMs, it's hard to choose the one I want!

[moonray]

@futbolkeeper, thesire and tubaking182,

Thank you very much for the advice and support, appreciated. My idea of first-time flashing is:

Step 1. HardSPL (after data backup)
Step 2. Flash new ROM
Step 3. Flash new Radio.
Step 4. Restore data
Step 5. Install any new apps, if necessary...

Am I right here? I may do this in a short while!

[wyrm]

ahahah.
I would be a trifle peery of your 4th bullet. You do not mean to restore data from a preexisting backup, do you? Even if you partially succeed, you can make one big mess of your "new" Kaiser. Nothing an HR could not put straight, but that defeats the purpose of restoring data in the first place, now doesn't it. (and yes, I went through that myself. Lost an hour or so for exactly zero gain)
If, however, you only mean things that PIM Backup can store, go ahead by all means! Contacts, agenda, tasks, texts - NP here.
And yes, you will end up (re)installing extra apps - if only because no-one but you can judge what is key for you. And because if you use your Kaiser as a gaming platform or a mobile library, no-one has quite the same taste as you.
Ah, and yes, your suggested order is quite correct :)

[moonray]

Thank you wyrm. That's absolutely clear, and by 'restore data' I meant PIM backup, so no problems here.

As I am typing this, I have already done the first three steps above, everything is perfect and am restoring with PIMbackup now... It has been a great experience, and am very excited...

EDIT: PIM data restored and all's well. Hope all my previous programs work well with this ROM too.

BTW, This ROM (Dutty's WM6.1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2) has a radio also inbuilt, so step 3 was redundant :)
Entire process took about 20 minutes flat...

[edywanwan]

I've flash so many times already, reading all about ROMs out there really convincing. So I flash and flashed on my Hermes, HP and Kaiser then only realize bugs one after another. No big deal. And it's not going to stop too.

[tubaking182]

@futbolkeeper, thesire and tubaking182,

Thank you very much for the advice and support, appreciated. My idea of first-time flashing is:

Step 1. HardSPL (after data backup)
Step 2. Flash new ROM
Step 3. Flash new Radio.
Step 4. Restore data
Step 5. Install any new apps, if necessary...

Am I right here? I may do this in a short while!


ALWAYS HARD RESET AFTER YOU FLASH!!
i know it seems like a waste of time but you need to do it in order to make sure that everything from the last ROM is deleted

[moonray]

ALWAYS HARD RESET AFTER YOU FLASH!!
i know it seems like a waste of time but you need to do it in order to make sure that everything from the last ROM is deleted

Thanks! Fortunately, I remembered immediately after flashing and did it... otherwise, I would have had to do so now and lose all the newly installed apps :)