View Full Version : The benefit of 1.65.17.10
motocrossmann
3rd May 2008, 03:49 PM
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
AllTheWay
3rd May 2008, 05:22 PM
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
Great....but why start a new thread on an existing topic about the radio.
cuboosh
3rd May 2008, 06:10 PM
cuz he wanted to! so na-na-na-na
monkey0
3rd May 2008, 07:32 PM
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
Faster4
3rd May 2008, 07:53 PM
Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
How can check this ?
rac2371
3rd May 2008, 07:56 PM
How can check this ?
Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
Penske MB
3rd May 2008, 08:02 PM
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
Faster4
3rd May 2008, 08:38 PM
Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
thomassster
3rd May 2008, 09:12 PM
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
As for this thread, I know its dug up in there, but people have stated the benefits in the 1.65.17.10 radio thread. The Kaiser ROM development forum is really cluttered with a lot of threads so having these redundent threads just makes the development forum more cluttered.
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
PsyOpWarlord
4th May 2008, 06:18 AM
I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
You could follow the info/link in the WiKi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
That would take you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
cmloo
4th May 2008, 08:27 AM
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
gthing
4th May 2008, 11:31 AM
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
Feedback is far better thanks than just "thanks." If people are saying thanks, then they are probably using the ROM, and if they're using the ROM they should have something to say about it. Even if it's just a few things they like.
rdecker692000
4th May 2008, 02:43 PM
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
motocrossmann
4th May 2008, 08:26 PM
I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
Hmm, I never had that problem and still don't. I have tested simultaneous data with my phone and it works fine pre/post installing this radio.
motocrossmann
4th May 2008, 08:29 PM
Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
Well, I wish I could provide you some good advice on that one, but your problem is quite different than mine. Have you tried changing the GPRS authendication menthod? PAP vs CHAP?
rdecker692000
5th May 2008, 04:31 AM
Odd - I have tried a bunch of the Kaiser, Sena and Niki radios with the same issues. Once I go back to the stock AT&T ROM all is well. Definitely not worth running the AT&T ROM for the feature; I may try one of the Non-Dutty ROMs just for a test.
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