What is new in the world of the Kaiser?!

[thehyecircus]

The money I was going to spend on the Tilt went to my beautiful new 22 inch LG Monitor (W2252TQ - 270 at Best Buy - best monitor out there.)

So I looked up some news on it the other day, since buying the phone is in my sights again, and I saw that all kinds of things have come out for it. So what do I have to know? What about the battery? Any new killer aps? Slingbox good with it? What about a wireless hard drive I have, think I could get my Tilt to access it? What about my wireless printer, hahaha ok that one won't happen.

And wireless internet is 20 dollars a month? Is it worth it? Can i get it cheaper somehow?

[Isaygarcia]

WinMo 6.1 Official with Graphic improvements (maybe drivers), this month..

Some great Cooked ROM's

Some beautyful software...

fixes...

Android..

... Android...

xD

things like that :)..

not so much :)...

grrr 22 inch sounds great for xbox360 xD!

[VirgilWoods]

Cheapest internet is 15 dollars w/o text package. That LG is NOT the best monitor out there :) benq fp241 ftw :)

[bengalih]

I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?

As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:

$30 unlimited data

$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).

I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?

[kareeem]

I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?

As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:

$30 unlimited data

$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).

I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?

That's how much they're here as well :eek:

[jeffla]

I'd like to know where you guys get $15 and $20 Internet plans?

As far as I know, here in Chicago you have 2 choices:

$30 unlimited data

$50 unlimited data with tethering (or maybe it's $40).

I see in your sig you have AT&T too... do prices differ that much state to state?

You put your sim card in a non pda phone. Call AT&T, tell them you sold the tilt and sign up for the unlimited MediaNet @ 15.00. Put your sim back in the tilt.

your done.

look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388367

See here for a word of caution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391980

[omaralt]

the prices are not different from state to state; its just that some people are getting data plans theyre not supposed to be getting. those $15 and $20 plans are for non-smartphone's (ie, those crappy flip samsungs, etc). many ppl use these plans on the tilt and other smart phones with no probs, but rumor has it that at&t does check and will charge you per kb of data that u used....its a risk, up to you if u wanna take it

[samz465]

The person referring to the $15 plan is on a Media Net unlimited plan.
That plan is meant for customers who have REGULAR phones such as the LG Shine or something.
The PDA Plans are $30 for unlimited.

There have been things all around the net that if at&t switches your plan back to what it was supposed to be, you get a rediculously high bill. But they may just be rumors.
Nonetheless it's kind of stealing b/c you're paying for the wrong plan.
The reason they charge more money for PDA data plans is because PDA's are MUCH more data intensive.

Anyway, my brother owns a couple Cell phone stores, and I've worked there for 5 years, so I know what I'm talking about.

The only way for you to have that $15 plan still is if
a) you got it more than a few months ago.
b) the person you bought your phone from stuck the IMEI of a regular phone onto your account as oppossed to your true PDA's IMEI. Doing that would cause the data plans that come up on the feature page during activation to be the $15 media net unlimited plan.
They changed their system so that the IMEI used for activation is what the features shown are based off of for the dealer's activation system.
c) do what the above poster mentioned by sticking your sim in a different phone claiming you are using that one now instead of your PDA.

[ekw]

The money I was going to spend on the Tilt went to my beautiful new 22 inch LG Monitor (W2252TQ - 270 at Best Buy - best monitor out there.)

So I looked up some news on it the other day, since buying the phone is in my sights again, and I saw that all kinds of things have come out for it. So what do I have to know? What about the battery? Any new killer aps? Slingbox good with it? What about a wireless hard drive I have, think I could get my Tilt to access it? What about my wireless printer, hahaha ok that one won't happen.

And wireless internet is 20 dollars a month? Is it worth it? Can i get it cheaper somehow?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000190020+1309822582&name=22%22

should have checked newegg on that monitor :P

[redbandana]

the prices are not different from state to state; its just that some people are getting data plans theyre not supposed to be getting. those $15 and $20 plans are for non-smartphone's (ie, those crappy flip samsungs, etc). many ppl use these plans on the tilt and other smart phones with no probs, but rumor has it that at&t does check and will charge you per kb of data that u used....its a risk, up to you if u wanna take it

I use multiple phones if they told me I had to purchase a new plan just because I own a Tilt I would cancel my contract unlock my phone and go to Tmobile and get it for $5.99.

[thehyecircus]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000190020+1309822582&name=22%22

should have checked newegg on that monitor :P

Newegg's best reviewed LCD monitor has major defective problems. And most LCD monitors have terrible glare and fake refresh rates, fake 2 m/s, and a fake contrast ratio. It's all on a forum somewhere, I can get it if you want, but LG is definitely better. Plus it's Newegg review is pretty good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005097

ANYWAY, what about the other stuff in my original post? How are the roms coming? I was going to hold off on getting this because it uses Windows, but can we actually have Android on it? What are some good apps?

[redbandana]

jeffla i answered your question through PM. feel free to contact me again if you are confused. I was assisted greatly with this issue and I should pass on what I know and learned so far.

[tseten]

iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...

except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.

other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.

the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.

overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda shitty on this phone.

its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.

[ChumleyEX]

LOL I've had mine since october. You don't have to slide the keyboard out all the time and my stylus hardly gets uses. I can even use the onscreen keyboard sometimes with just my finger tip. Seriously, how can you be disapointed by having to use the keyboard? Didn't you even see the phone before you bought it.

[Mikulec]

iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...

except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.

other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.

the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.

overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda shitty on this phone.

its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.

This all are just a matter of customization.

I am using resco keyboard and I can easilly type with my fingers.

Also using UltimateLaunch witch is really finger-friendlly. And there are also hardware keys - u can install quick menu, amd u can make almost everything using the keys.

As I said, its all about your customization.

[KD8DNS]

iv used the tilt for about 1 week now... im not too impressed by it...

except the GPS is awesome. i got TomTom with it.

other than that... it seems alright. not as user friendly as many of the other phones.. u have to slide the keyboard just to type something, kind of annoying.

the touch screen needs a stylus most of the times.. thats something i dont really like too. u could use your fingers or nail but still.

overall not really impressed with the WM6.1 ppc edition... i like WM6 smartphone edition better. also battery life is kinda shitty on this phone.

its a phone for gadget lover types... overall good value for money.

As im sitting in court, reading these posts, im just waiting for somone to say the six letter word (iphone)

1. of course the screen needs a stylus, its a resistive display, you can however adjust the threshold to make it more finger frendly.

2. it is user frendly (if you know what your doing)

3. dont base 6.1 these are cooked roms and there are a bunch to choose from, if you dont like the user friendliness the go with a no frills version.

4. i had a crapple junkphone and now that i have a tilt i cant imagine how i even got by with a poopyphone, sorry iphone

5. this phone has a slide out keyboard, were???

6. scratch #5 i was kidding, of course you have to slide out the keyborad to type, unless you know of a way to type on it without sliding it out??

Look in all seriousness the Full duplex pocket pc communication device, we call the kaiser, is a great phone, a power house i tell you, you cant really appreciate it unless you have it. and of course everybody can find something wrong with anything they own, like my brand new (well slightly used) 2007 slk 55 amg mercedes benz, a small scratch on the wheel. And by the way the benq monitor is better than the lg.

So buy the damn phone you will be happy with it.

[thehyecircus]

I was very curious about it's ability to talk to an Iomega "Wireless Hard Drive" that I have. There is software that you install on the computer and it can detect the drive over Wifi. Do you think the phone can do such a thing? Same for my printer?

Anyone here use Slingbox with it? How are the new homebrew roms? Any in particular I should know about?

Is the battery life REALLY that bad?

[tseten]

well i like the keyboard, i just dont like sliding it.

i'd prefer the tmobile Dash , blackbeerry, moto Q, type where the keyboard is right there.

the thing with the sliding keyboard deal is, once u slide, the screen changes to landscape mode, and the resolution or something makes everything a bit unclear to read....

also another thing with this phone is, when i plug in my phone to the computer usb , the screen is always on, it doesnt turn off at all. iv changed the settings to turn off, and it doesnt.

also the keyboard mapping is a little messed up... when i select @, it gives me ! etc etc... as far as i understand this seems to be a common problem with the original dash... its amazing how HTC, and ATT released a phone with incorrect keyboard mappings.

i dont know if it is Dutty's 6.1 rom or is it affecting every ROM... these minor software issues are annoying... how could anyone not fix them before releasing them to the public. another bug i found is when u select the Missed Calls section and then u hit the End Call button, the whole screen gets messed up and u can only fix it by hard reboot.

[KD8DNS]

I was very curious about it's ability to talk to an Iomega "Wireless Hard Drive" that I have. There is software that you install on the computer and it can detect the drive over Wifi. Do you think the phone can do such a thing? Same for my printer?

Anyone here use Slingbox with it? How are the new homebrew roms? Any in particular I should know about?

Is the battery life REALLY that bad?

1. (wireless hard drive) if it is bluetooth yes, you have a bluetooth explorer folder wich allows you to use it as a virtual drive. I have a old pc with a 80gig hd in it i use exclusive for this. All you need is a bluetooth dongle.

2. (slingbox) tried it on edge (sucks) if you use it on 3g (great)

3. (wifi printing) I bluetooth docs to my main pc then print. I.E. excell doc's and word doc's. Thats a good question i can pair to my wifi printer but wouldnt have a clue on how to print. I would really like to be able, but never really experemented with it. I can controll my pc from my tilt so in effect i can bluetooth docs to my main pc then my remote from my tilt print from my main pc. So i really dont have to touch my main pc. (if you catch my drift).

4. (battery life) I am a heavy user, and i mean heavy. Usually i get 2 1/2 days without having to charge.

5. (homebrew rom's) ive flashed a couple times. but im satisfied with my att stock munus bloatware rom(works good for me).

[thehyecircus]

Well both the printer and the hard drive are over Wifi. Does Windows Mobile work well with Windows programs? I would just have to move the .exe's (and drivers for the printer) onto the phone, I guess. It would really save space on the SD Cards.

[KD8DNS]

Well both the printer and the hard drive are over Wifi. Does Windows Mobile work well with Windows programs? I would just have to move the .exe's (and drivers for the printer) onto the phone, I guess. It would really save space on the SD Cards.

Well printing directly from the phone, not sure i have never seen a print option when using excell or word from the phone.

[ChumleyEX]

are their windows mobile printer drivers??

[hambola]

4. (battery life) I am a heavy user, and i mean heavy. Usually i get 2 1/2 days without having to charge.


Heavy user is a relative term, what maybe be heavy to you might be light to someone else, or vice versa. Can you elaborate on typical usage that allows your phone to last 2.5 days? I can get 2.5 days (on the Cruise) but wouldn't call my usage heavy at all. If I really do use the device heavily it will barely last past a day.

[ChumleyEX]

As long as I keep the data off when it isn't needed I can easily get 2.5 - 3days off of the battery. I use Sluths rom. I'm all over my phone too, texting, gps, pr0n, etc etc,

[KD8DNS]

As long as I keep the data off when it isn't needed I can easily get 2.5 - 3days off of the battery. I use Sluths rom. I'm all over my phone too, texting, gps, pr0n, etc etc,

About the same but i decided to use stock minus bloatware.

[tseten]

i dont even use mine that much... maybe 1 or 2 hours online wifi surfing net... and a few calls here and there and battery runs out... so when u guys say u get 2.5 days... it sounds like a fairy tale.

[KaiserVideoDriver]

Well both the printer and the hard drive are over Wifi. Does Windows Mobile work well with Windows programs? I would just have to move the .exe's (and drivers for the printer) onto the phone, I guess. It would really save space on the SD Cards.

You cannot copy Windows' .exe files (+driver) to SD card to be run in Windows Mobile as the file "format" is different, the way those 2 kinds of operating system read executables are completely different. So you can't have Adobe Photoshop running in Windows Mobile without emulation layer (and I'm not saying that emulation in this extreme example is practical either)

[ChumleyEX]

i dont even use mine that much... maybe 1 or 2 hours online wifi surfing net... and a few calls here and there and battery runs out... so when u guys say u get 2.5 days... it sounds like a fairy tale.

Do you monitor your data connection? Do you have a flashed rom on their with maybe the wrong radio rom?

[246810]

Chumley & Co,

The fact of the matter is a quality phone should not have be flashed with different ROMS and customised to the point that it bears little resemblance to the original just to keep it functioning for 2.5 days. It should be a finished product which functions at least adequately, without having to obsessively tweak the phones settings when not using some of its features and meticulously monitoring your data connection.

Tseten and Hambola are correct with their accounts on the Kaisers performance. Unless you flash your ROM,and keep the backlight to a minimum (and we all know what the screen visibility is like with no backlight in the sunlight....) and switch off 3G when not using the internet, the battery life is poor.

When some people give negative critiques on the Kaiser, they are judging the end product for which they have parted substantial money to purchase, and not the product they have invested hours of their time modifying and purchasing additional software to make work at a reasonable standard.

[KD8DNS]

Chumley & Co,

The fact of the matter is a quality phone should not have be flashed with different ROMS and customised to the point that it bears little resemblance to the original just to keep it functioning for 2.5 days. It should be a finished product which functions at least adequately, without having to obsessively tweak the phones settings when not using some of its features and meticulously monitoring your data connection.

Tseten and Hambola are correct with their accounts on the Kaisers performance. Unless you flash your ROM,and keep the backlight to a minimum (and we all know what the screen visibility is like with no backlight in the sunlight....) and switch off 3G when not using the internet, the battery life is poor.

When some people give negative critiques on the Kaiser, they are judging the end product for which they have parted substantial money to purchase, and not the product they have invested hours of their time modifying and purchasing additional software to make work at a reasonable standard.

Your comment is in my opinion BULLSHIT. The kaiser/Tilt works fine for me as is. However, with anything, people like to customize/tweek. For instance i just bought a slk55 amg benz, its a great car AS IS, but i wanted a upgraded sound system. My home pc i built/customized it to my liking, as most of us here do with our phones. Take the automotive aftermarket industry for example. Why do you think it is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. I work for AT&T as a regional tech. A majority of people whom bought there phones whatever they are, are pleased with them, some like a little customization. So are you saying that a person with a custom ring tone is not pleased with the phone. It is custom, to each their own. Im sure something you own has been changed in one way or the other to suit you needs better. And the backlight issue, hit the damn red button on the side of your phone to illuminate it.

[Mikulec]

Your comment is in my opinion BULLSHIT. The kaiser/Tilt works fine for me as is. However, with anything, people like to customize/tweek. For instance i just bought a slk55 amg benz, its a great car AS IS, but i wanted a upgraded sound system. My home pc i built/customized it to my liking, as most of us here do with our phones. Take the automotive aftermarket industry for example. Why do you think it is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. I work for AT&T as a regional tech. A majority of people whom bought there phones whatever they are, are pleased with them, some like a little customization. So are you saying that a person with a custom ring tone is not pleased with the phone. It is custom, to each their own. Im sure something you own has been changed in one way or the other to suit you needs better. And the backlight issue, hit the damn red button on the side of your phone to illuminate it.

LOL, exactly mine opinion. I just want to see the person who buys this phone(or other hi-tech toy) and leave it as it is. I think its shame to not to play with it and tweak it or customize it to your liking and to your needs.

[KD8DNS]

SMS--200 day
MMS-- 30 day
Calls- 3 hours
Edge data--1 hour
3g data--3 hours
WiFi-- 2 hours
Email--40 day
Excel editing-- 1 hour
Powerpoint--1 hour
Word--2 hours
games- 30 min
teather--1 hour

if this is not large, major, heavy or big time. i dont know what is.
These are averages but pretty damn close to a daily useage for me.

[246810]

Spoken like a true abrasive angry American lacking in etiquette lessons.
And you’re missing my point. Regardless of whether YOUR phone works adequately is besides the point. Issues with the Kaisers performance have been addressed numerously and on a large scale. The performance of your phone does not pertain to the performance of the wide scale demographic of Kaiser owners. There wouldn’t be class actions and what nots if this was the case and numerous threads regarding this issue would not be clogging up this board.

Yes, people with well functioning phones modify their ringtones and change their wallpaper. What many people with well functioning phones don’t do however is resort to giving their phone a full makeover just to keep it running adequately. It is that which sets the Kaiser apart from other well functioning Pocket PC’s .

If you choose to respond, try constructing a post without expletives.

[KD8DNS]

Spoken like a true abrasive angry American lacking in etiquette lessons.
And you’re missing my point. Regardless of whether YOUR phone works adequately is besides the point. Issues with the Kaisers performance have been addressed numerously and on a large scale. The performance of your phone does not pertain to the performance of the wide scale demographic of Kaiser owners. There wouldn’t be class actions and what nots if this was the case and numerous threads regarding this issue would not be clogging up this board.

Yes, people with well functioning phones modify their ringtones and change their wallpaper. What many people with well functioning phones don’t do however is resort to giving their phone a full makeover just to keep it running adequately. It is that which sets the Kaiser apart from other well functioning Pocket PC’s .

If you choose to respond, try constructing a post without expletives.

Question. What phone do you own/use

I don't see what relevancy your bullshit reply has to do with the original question.

P.S. Asshole im from Italy

[246810]

Question. What phone do you own/use

I don't see what relevancy your bullshit reply has to do with the original question.

P.S. Asshole im from Italy

Again, more expletives. Just try constructing a post without them. You know what has been long known about people who take recourse to ad hominem and don’t address the content of ones post?....

I think I responded to your post pretty sufficiently. Perhaps you ought to cool down and find alternative means to release your inner rage before you click the ‘submit reply’ button.

As for the phone I have, it’s a Kaiser. I’ll be getting a different phone shortly however. And before it’s thrown in, I don’t like the Iphone and would sell it ASAP if I was given a free one.

P.S- Viewing your avatar which has clearly displays an American flag gives the impression that you’re an American, along with the fact you're network is an American provider, and last but not least you live in Ohio.

[redbandana]

Again, more expletives. Just try constructing a post without them. You know what has been long known about people who take recourse to ad hominem and don’t address the content of ones post?....

I think I responded to your post pretty sufficiently. Perhaps you ought to cool down and find alternative means to release your inner rage before you click the ‘submit reply’ button.

As for the phone I have, it’s a Kaiser. I’ll be getting a different phone shortly however. And before it’s thrown in, I don’t like the Iphone and would sell it ASAP if I was given a free one.

P.S- Viewing your avatar which has clearly displays an American flag gives the impression that you’re an American.

hey now its time to drop it with the American sterotypes we don't all suck as human beings.

[246810]

hey now its time to drop it with the American sterotypes we don't all suck as human beings.

Redbanana,

I’m not Anti- American in the least. (I live in the UK by the way) It just hasn’t escaped my attention the distinct abrasiveness emanating from American posters in particular. I’m sure you’re one of the nice onces Redbanana. Sometimes the outspokenness of American’s really is a breath of fresh air and provides a nice release from the obsessive reserved nature of the British, but other times, in particular in cases such as KD8DNS, it crosses the line into obnoxious territory. It doesn’t make the site a welcoming place and has been noted on other reputable phone sites such as Modaco. Why some posters find it so hard to express themselves that they resort to using foul language when unprovoked and construct barely coherent posts is beyond me....

[KD8DNS]

Redbanana,

I’m not Anti- American in the least. (I live in the UK by the way) It just hasn’t escaped my attention the distinct abrasiveness emanating from American posters in particular. I’m sure you’re one of the nice onces Redbanana. Sometimes the outspokenness of American’s really is a breath of fresh air and provides a nice release from the obsessive reserved nature of the British, but other times, in particular in cases such as KD8DNS, it crosses the line into obnoxious territory. It doesn’t make the site a welcoming place and has been noted on other reputable phone sites such as Modaco. Why some posters find it so hard to express themselves that they resort to using foul language when unprovoked and construct barely coherent posts is beyond me....

Ok ill just end this, before it goes even more out of control, you sir have single handedly trashed this thread, all the man asked is "what is new in the world of the kaiser".

I stated my opinion, i like it.
you however must really hate it.
and thats ok, but don't hijack a mans post for just the simple fact of you being a "forum whore".

In closing, I wish you well in your search of the perfect, no need to customize perfect phone. I could suggest a phone called the jitterbug.

[hambola]

teather--1 hour



That is heavier than my usage and mine doesn't last nearly as long. I have been able to get it to last 2.5 days by keeping Edge and not 3G and always having my data connection terminated, but again not very heavy usage. Also we are obviously using diff devices, Polaris vs Kaiser.

What interests me is when you tether, is it through Bluetooth or USB cable. If USB cable then you are getting charge out of it during that 1 hour which is partly responsible for it lasting longer than if it weren't being connected to USB.

[KD8DNS]

That is heavier than my usage and mine doesn't last nearly as long. I have been able to get it to last 2.5 days by keeping Edge and not 3G and always having my data connection terminated, but again not very heavy usage. Also we are obviously using diff devices, Polaris vs Kaiser.

What interests me is when you tether, is it through Bluetooth or USB cable. If USB cable then you are getting charge out of it during that 1 hour which is partly responsible for it lasting longer than if it weren't being connected to USB.

I am using USB, but i have my tilt set not to charge while synced.

[ChumleyEX]

Chumley & Co,

The fact of the matter is a quality phone should not have be flashed with different ROMS and customised to the point that it bears little resemblance to the original just to keep it functioning for 2.5 days. It should be a finished product which functions at least adequately, without having to obsessively tweak the phones settings when not using some of its features and meticulously monitoring your data connection.

Tseten and Hambola are correct with their accounts on the Kaisers performance. Unless you flash your ROM,and keep the backlight to a minimum (and we all know what the screen visibility is like with no backlight in the sunlight....) and switch off 3G when not using the internet, the battery life is poor.

When some people give negative critiques on the Kaiser, they are judging the end product for which they have parted substantial money to purchase, and not the product they have invested hours of their time modifying and purchasing additional software to make work at a reasonable standard.


Oh you assumed that I flashed my rom for better performance. I flashed it to be cool and accepted.. I'm a geek, it's what I do.. I didn't have a problem with battery life when it was all stock. I asked the above question because at one point I used the wrong (yet working) radio rom, and my battery was boo boo.

[Mikulec]

Redbanana,

I’m not Anti- American in the least. (I live in the UK by the way) It just hasn’t escaped my attention the distinct abrasiveness emanating from American posters in particular. I’m sure you’re one of the nice onces Redbanana. Sometimes the outspokenness of American’s really is a breath of fresh air and provides a nice release from the obsessive reserved nature of the British, but other times, in particular in cases such as KD8DNS, it crosses the line into obnoxious territory. It doesn’t make the site a welcoming place and has been noted on other reputable phone sites such as Modaco. Why some posters find it so hard to express themselves that they resort to using foul language when unprovoked and construct barely coherent posts is beyond me....

WOW, I never saw someone spoke the way u do. U have to be a teacher or something like that. I am really curious what is your job. :rolleyes: