Separate radio for 3G?

[chaosniner]

Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335096

The problem is that phone/data work fine when the phone is in non-3G mode. (In the Comm Manager, available in most recent ROMs, I have disabled the 3G mode, so I'm using only GSM here in the US).

In 3G mode, I'll get a 3G icon (used to get an H, months ago), but will be unable to place/receive calls, and no data connections will be established -- they'll all time out or say that "the answering modem has disconnected."

So, back to my question: is it possible that my radio is partly damaged? Can that happen? I'm not sure how else to explain the utter lack of 3G on my phone.

[dyetheskin]

can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma

PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times

[chaosniner]

can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma

PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've tried everything I can think of, and everything suggested. Nearly ever ROM I've seen, with nearly every radio; every combination of wap.cingular, isp.cingular, etc. The AT&T store thinks the phone is defective b/c they can't figure it out, either. In response to your comments: tried every version of windows mobile and most of the radios available; I'm very much in a HSDPA 3G area (used to get 5 bars "H" all the time); 3G is enabled; network settings are correct; phone is set to auto/auto.

Any other ideas, anyone? I appreciate it!

[AndyNJ]

I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.

Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.

I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.

If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.

This is super aggravating.

[chaosniner]

I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.

Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.

I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.

If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.

This is super aggravating.

Well, the good part is, you're not alone. I found another forum online (can't remember where, I'm at work now and I found it last night) were several people were having the exact same problem -- in various countries around the world, including the US.

They had decent luck flashing the stock HTC ROM and then the French radio mentioned on the big XDA radio post (search google for "kaiser radio" and you should see it). However, I did the same and still have the 3G problem.

[XtreMe_G]

did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.

[yeantbron]

I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393331)

[chaosniner]

did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.

Yep -- I've tried going all the way back to the original ROM and radio. No go.

[chaosniner]

I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393331)

Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.

Bonne chance!

[vacsed]

Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:

As mentioned in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074), some shipments of the TyTN II have faulty hardware with broken 3G support.

No patch or driver update can fix this because it is a hardware problem. I experienced exactly the same issue with my first TyTN II and finally replaced it with a new device which works flawlessly out of the box.

I believe you should also better get your device replaced if you ever want to use 3G.

[yeantbron]

Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
Yes of course !

[yeantbron]

Well, 4 days to receive my phone !! :D
and they have changed :
_motherboard
_antenna
and MAJ rom and radio
Version de ROM : 1.56.163.8 ===> 1.56.163.9
Date de ROM : 09/04/07 ===> 10/15/07
Version de radio : 1.27.12.11 ===> 1.27.12.32
Version de protocole : 22.45.88.07H ===> not changed

[brycevtr250]

are you saying you have gotten your phone back? is it working now?