SPL Version and AP4 Upgrade?

[robroy90]

Greetings all, I have a probably dumb question I can't seem to find an answer to:

Today I installed HardSPL v1.20 as a stand-alone (through the wrapper?) and now I want to upgrade to AP4, but I see that it requires SPL 3.5? I downloaded the AP4.0 installer from the official thread and tried to install it, but it stalls out (because of my SPL version?)

In any event, I am pretty confused right now, and just need some guidance. Do I want to run AP4 on SPL 1.2? Or is there an advantage to using SPL 3.5 instead?

Thanks in advance,

Rob

[eaglesteve]

If I were you, I'll wait for AP5 on SPL 1.2. Beta is due out soon.

[pdajoy]

Agree with the sage from above post.

AP4 is great rom, being enjoying it, many thanks to the great AP Team.

[lakeman]

Greetings all, I have a probably dumb question I can't seem to find an answer to:

Today I installed HardSPL v1.20 as a stand-alone (through the wrapper?) and now I want to upgrade to AP4, but I see that it requires SPL 3.5? I downloaded the AP4.0 installer from the official thread and tried to install it, but it stalls out (because of my SPL version?)

In any event, I am pretty confused right now, and just need some guidance. Do I want to run AP4 on SPL 1.2? Or is there an advantage to using SPL 3.5 instead?

Thanks in advance,

Rob
the AP4 installer puts SPL 3.5 on your machine.
If it didn't work , you haven't followed the instructions correctly.
may I suggest reading the thread to see the problems that were resolved
Further , if you want to try AP5 now you must have SPL3.5

[lakeman]

http://www.htc-hackers.com/uploads/AP4_How_To_1.8.pdf

[robroy90]

I followed the directions in the 1.8 how to guide, and even tried it on two different Vista machines and an XP machine, all with the same result. When I run the .exe to actually start the update it writes the pmemdump and itsutils files to the folder and then it just stalls and never goes further. I made sure the machines had .net, etc. I am just stuck and don't understand why I can't get the AP4 installer to go further. Thanks!

[lakeman]

are you sure you did step 7 and 10?
if you have then try another cable, sometimes the connection is dodgy

[C Sammet]

Actually I am interested in the answer to the final question that started this thread.

What are the advantages to switching from SPL 1.2 over to SPL 3.5? It would seem that with the inability to switch back to 1.2 in order to load a stock ROM if you ever wanted to that switching over to 3.5 is a one-way trip. So it would seem to be important to know what the benefits are of such a change.

I have read all the threads looking for this answer and all I have been able to gleem is that to load AP 4.0 or the current beta AP 5.0 you must switch, but with the Irus ROMs that allow the features of AP 4.0 on SPL 1.2 it would seem that isn't much of an advantage anymore.

I am sure I probably have seen and read somewhere here some advantage, but I guess it just didn't sink in or make sense to me. So for a simple guy, what are the advantages to switching over to SPL 3.5?

Thanks in advance.

[darkjedi]

Why is everyone so scared of SPL 3.5? It's running perfectly fine on my Advantage.

[geek78]

Why : if you want to sale the athena you can't .... If you want to go back to an original shipped rom you can't (except for wwe or fre htc branded rom until now)

Off course ap4 or ap5 is realy a very good job!

[darkjedi]

Why : if you want to sale the athena you can't .... If you want to go back to an original shipped rom you can't (except for wwe or fre htc branded rom until now)

Off course ap4 or ap5 is realy a very good job!If you want to sell it? First off, I've never had to warrant ANY device I've bought. Second, it's out of your hands once you sell it. I've always sold my devices with custom ROMs and the buyer hasn't said a word.

[geek78]

off course only if you want to sale it...lol
and it is very difficult to sale it if you tell to the buyer that we wont be able to flash any rom...
as soon as cmonex will publish the downgrade too everybody will try ap5

[eaglesteve]

Because it is a one way street that limits your choice to ROMS that still have many issues. This forums clearly shows there are many unesolved bugs, which is why we need AP5 to fix them. Of course we hope AP5 will be able to solve these issues. Yes, there is the option of AP3, but you can have that in spl1.2.

Because there is no need to bloat up the ROM with third party software since we can install them ourselves. We may never want those software, depending on pesonal preferences.

Becaus we want more available memory.

Because we can also have AP4 with spl1.2 (irus version), which still needs some work.

So, why go spl 3.5?

[C Sammet]

First in response to an earlier post, I am not scared of 3.5 rather I just wanted to know what the advantages were of moving to it since you can't currently move back. And it does seem there are issues with AP 4.0.

I understand for some the concern is being able to restore a stock ROM in order to sell their Athena. Since I never plan to sell mine, not an issue.

Now if 3.5 maximizes memory such that we get more available memory than that might be a reason to convert.

But if the only reason out there is AP 4.0 then maybe waiting until AP 5.0 is out fixing many of the issues I have read about in other threads.

Is there any other reason to move from 1.2 to 3.5 ?

[sergiopi]

First in response to an earlier post, I am not scared of 3.5 rather I just wanted to know what the advantages were of moving to it since you can't currently move back. And it does seem there are issues with AP 4.0.

I understand for some the concern is being able to restore a stock ROM in order to sell their Athena. Since I never plan to sell mine, not an issue.

Now if 3.5 maximizes memory such that we get more available memory than that might be a reason to convert.

But if the only reason out there is AP 4.0 then maybe waiting until AP 5.0 is out fixing many of the issues I have read about in other threads.

Is there any other reason to move from 1.2 to 3.5 ?

SPL 3.5 in a quick answer, is just a tool to modify the partition table of your device, increasing space available for ROM (and reducing the space available for YOU :) ). AP team developed it after they finished building the AP4 from the new ADVANTAGE ROM (X7510) and the ROM doesn't fit into the original ATHENA partitions.

Do you have any advantage modifiyng the partitions in your PC? YES, if you need a bigger one, NO if you don't. :)

The only advantage is the capability to use AP4 and AP5 full edition

The SPL 3.5 installed haven't any "software" effect, is just a sign of the newly partitoned ATHENA, Having it installed and using IRUS rom (developed for SPL 3.5) means you are wasting some available space, comparing with the SPL 1.2 version.

[Erik_]

SPL 3.5 in a quick answer, is just a tool to modify the partition table of your device, increasing space available for ROM (and reducing the space available for YOU :) ). AP team developed it after they finished building the AP4 from the new ADVANTAGE ROM (X7510) and the ROM doesn't fit into the original ATHENA partitions.

Thanks for this nugget of information. Now I understand better what or how I'm readying my AP4 upgrade.

[PBL1]

Yea, SPL3.5= Pure breed X7510 roms, SPL1.20 ( and others)=ported stuff

If this is a advantage, only the user can say

[C Sammet]

Thank You. That clears up completely what 3.5 provides versus 1.2.

So if 3.5 is just a re-partitioning of the memory on the Athena to allow for 7510 ROMs then it would make sense to move to it since most future ROM releases will be based on the 7510s ROM.

On that note, in the future would it be possible to load even a stock 7510 ROM on an Anthena with the 3.5 set-up? Or is 3.5 a proprietary set-up created by the AP group here?

Sorry for the additional questions.

[PBL1]

most future ROM releases will be based on the 7510s ROM.

Don't know about that, Irus rom is 6.1 based and for what people say they seem to be OK, all depends on what developers want to release, there is no reason why it cannot be developed new rooms for the X7500/7501 format.

Basically since the newest rom came from X7510 you have to choose between modify the X7500 (spl 3.5) or modify the rom to fit our devices.

SPL 3.5 caveat, it wont let you go back to what you had previously, said this I using AP4 and for my is top notch, your choice.


it be possible to load even a stock 7510 ROM on an Anthena with the 3.5 set-up?


good question.

[Tazzz79]

(except for wwe or fre htc branded rom until now)
Can somebody tell me where to find