New Update By Htc

[zaharakis]

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........

yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....

and then sell all of us our kaisers :mad:

i'm tired of this f@#king htc's policy:mad:

what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??

what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????

sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition :mad:

[Isaygarcia]

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?

we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...

Mods, could you close this thread?

[liquidfork]

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........

yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....

and then sell all of us our kaisers :mad:

i'm tired of this f@#king htc's policy:mad:

what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??

what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????

sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition :mad:

I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs :)

[zaharakis]

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?

we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...

Mods, could you close this thread?



but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..

and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads ;)

[iuli]

Hey,

The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...

Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...

[Isaygarcia]

More than blaming HTC for its shit-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

[thimiost]

htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs

[SH4YD33]

More than blaming HTC for its shit-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.

[Rayan]

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?

we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...

Mods, could you close this thread?

On the contrary...

Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...

Here's hoping... :rolleyes:

[KaiserVideoDriver]

On the contrary...

Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...

Here's hoping... :rolleyes:

I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.

[Choop]

hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ

[dubbeld00]

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.

Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff :).

That's just my point of view...


(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

[MrEous]

Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything

[zaharakis]

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.

Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff :).

That's just my point of view...


(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??

i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public;)

so they just yellow us for another one time :mad:

[astraman]

Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC

[edbutler]

Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...

[nphil]

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?

I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.

The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.

Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.

With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

[vcespon]

So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.

- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.

So, by updating what the hell do I gain?

My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.

[schulzj]

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?

I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.

The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.

Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.

With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.


It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.

[Isaygarcia]

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang ! :)

[rajmagi]

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang ! :)

agreed.... who wants to follow??

[mlai]

agreed.... who wants to follow??

Question should be:

How many helicopters do we need?

[Rayan]

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?

I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.

The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.

Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.

With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

You say that the Kaiser is a business tool? Yeah a very crippled one that is... :mad:

How can you expect us to feel of our 7 month old devices if a 3 year old HTC Magician has better performance??? :confused:

I'm sorry but for me what you say is pure BS and it's clear to me that you don't own a Kaiser or if you do you are not a power-user... No wait... I get it, you have lots of money to spare right?. :D

Well not really BS after all... You know? Maybe you are right when you said that HTC doesn't care about me at all, and that's why I'm waiting for Velocity Mobile to release it's Velocity 111 device. :p

P.S.- I vote for the Kaiser bombing run at HTC!!!

Cheers!
Rayan

[rajmagi]

Question should be:

How many helicopters do we need?

lol ....
that's the question alright

.... boring stuffff from Hell To Costumerssss..... zzzzzz
strange that kaiser folks waiting for diamond ported just to have faith that his device should work at normal mode....

btw, does this mean kaiser is more than $1000???
just remember time we spent to wait for the driver
to thanks the chef
to download the official
to download the cooked
to install
to disssaatisssfiedddd

not to mentioned the low price if we sell it...
gezzzzzzzmooo

and who said GB america if the lawsuit does fail to comply?

and who is realy100x will never eat HIS SHOES???

lol

[dwella]

Sorry guys I really like my Kaiser. It is one PDA I have not changed out within a month. I use mine all the time without major issues

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[staulkor]

I got sick of waiting months ago. I sold my kaiser and got a Nokia N95 8gb. I am done with HTC. How can I buy a product costing nearly $1000 if I can not trust that the company will keep its word. Especially after misleading EVERYONE with their false advertisement about the kaiser and other devices with the same chipset. I have had many HTC phones and loved them all. The kaiser was different. I loved it at first, but you love everything at first. Once the initial excitement passed, I saw its major flaws and began to hate it. I had enough and sold it. Im done HTC. You lost a good customer and will lose many more thanks to people asking me for phone advice.

[Isaygarcia]

Sorry guys I really like my Kaiser. It is one PDA I have not changed out within a month. I use mine all the time without major issues

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yay!! now imagine.. if HTC does it.. some corporations will not late to do it!!

:) imagine a Ferrari with a V12 locked to 4 xD!!

[Rayan]

I got sick of waiting months ago. I sold my kaiser and got a Nokia N95 8gb. I am done with HTC. How can I buy a product costing nearly $1000 if I can not trust that the company will keep its word. Especially after misleading EVERYONE with their false advertisement about the kaiser and other devices with the same chipset. I have had many HTC phones and loved them all. The kaiser was different. I loved it at first, but you love everything at first. Once the initial excitement passed, I saw its major flaws and began to hate it. I had enough and sold it. Im done HTC. You lost a good customer and will lose many more thanks to people asking me for phone advice.

Good for you mate! :D

I've purchased an N95-8 too :) (I really like it) while I wait for the Velocity Mobile 111... I simply can't dump WM just yet... I'm frustrated with HTC not Windows Mobile.

[rajmagi]

I got sick of waiting months ago. I sold my kaiser and got a Nokia N95 8gb. I am done with HTC. How can I buy a product costing nearly $1000 if I can not trust that the company will keep its word. Especially after misleading EVERYONE with their false advertisement about the kaiser and other devices with the same chipset. I have had many HTC phones and loved them all. The kaiser was different. I loved it at first, but you love everything at first. Once the initial excitement passed, I saw its major flaws and began to hate it. I had enough and sold it. Im done HTC. You lost a good customer and will lose many more thanks to people asking me for phone advice.

agreed indeed... I chose it over iUltimate based on the fact may ppl praise HTC
but until my GPS unit is broken when I bought it, .. and the fact that in normal shipped rom it was to LAGGY and etc... god,.... it fails me that its better than mwg atom v in term I want a a fast good looking device with slider, and gps unit which both has will make atom v much better due to no lag at navigating

just fail me...

overal its spec was awesome that was true... keyboard is great, tweaks from xda is great, ... but its hard if I used it as daily hardcore user. just hard if u use TOUCHscreen mostly due to lag response..

just consider buying a DUAL VVT-i engine car but only the fact that THE BREAK IS SEMI ON because the company didn't licensed it to go above 20mph!!!!

and another 80's car just past you away... how was that feel???
sure your car is comfy and looks good... but u can't use it NORMALLY you think it's normal because the car COMPANY thinks it's NORMAL THAT WAY

so ... HTC fails me and many other (as far as I know of)

[cmloo]

Damn u HTC! if it was not for the xda folks here i would not have even considered the tytnII. yeah my 838pro works better than his piece of overpriced shit. no more htc bs as you are now on my permanent go fly kite list. another lost customer for u!
keep up yr pathetic products and services and i guarantee you will land yrself in guiness books for the most cursed phone manufacturer or the first one to be nuked with tytnII rejects.....which over comes first!!!!

[rajmagi]

Damn u HTC! if it was not for the xda folks here i would not have even considered the tytnII. yeah my 838pro works better than his piece of overpriced shit. no more htc bs as you are now on my permanent go fly kite list. another lost customer for u!
keep up yr pathetic products and services and i guarantee you will land yrself in guiness books for the most cursed phone manufacturer or the first one to be nuked with tytnII rejects.....which over comes first!!!!

duno about that, can be like O2 to MWG if the newest rom is like this
but,... ppc market is still growing, n it may not aware enough about this issue yet if u don't do anything
god I already humiliate enough when the GPS died and slow lag in front of 4 people at the Service center, that was before I know www.htcclassaction.org
so I didn't have enough bullet but I know there was problem...

darn... if only sooner...

but I n many may still keep it due to xda not more not less ... maybe
God,.. this thing cost me over my salary!! lol
no way I just let it go somehow!!!

:D

[dcd1182]

With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

apparently developers cant carry on conversations about development in english forums.
every device's specific forum marked just for development seems to be full of this now.

[ach2]

Well not really BS after all... You know? Maybe you are right when you said that HTC doesn't care about me at all, and that's why I'm waiting for Velocity Mobile to release it's Velocity 111 device. :p


But the Velocity 111 also uses the Qualcomm MSM7201 chip - so won't it also have crippled graphics?

[msharaf]

I just want to flag my disappointment too ...

I am not expecting too much from HTC and not expecting their Diamond to be much different.

I fellback to WM6 days ago, not happy with speed but happy that everything is almost functional.

Hv worked on the i-phone and felt what speed means, waiting for the 2nd generation to be released then trash this device :cool: