View Full Version : Good Snes Emulator for Kaiser?
bubbleking2
25th May 2008, 01:35 AM
Does anyone know of a good SNES emulator for the TyTn II? I have already searched the forums and have found that most of the posts about this subject are quite dated. I am currently using PocketSnes by Bleeding edge, but the sound on this emulator is of poor quailty. Also, for some reason, this seems to run remarkably better on my Mogul? I have downloaded different versions of this software, apparently 'upgrades' and they do have more game compatibility, but they sacrifice alot of FPS (about 5, but when your only getting 30 FPS, 5 is alot.). SnesJ4U also seemed like a good alternative, and the sound on it is beautiful, the problem is, iirc, that it doesnt allow for a boxed-landscape display. Does anyone know of a good, up-to-date emulator that can hit over 35 FPS on a TyTN II, not overclocked and running the previous HTC ROM (the one before WM 6.1) and run in boxed-landscape mode?
KD8DNS
25th May 2008, 04:02 AM
Does anyone know of a good SNES emulator for the TyTn II? I have already searched the forums and have found that most of the posts about this subject are quite dated. I am currently using PocketSnes by Bleeding edge, but the sound on this emulator is of poor quailty. Also, for some reason, this seems to run remarkably better on my Mogul? I have downloaded different versions of this software, apparently 'upgrades' and they do have more game compatibility, but they sacrifice alot of FPS (about 5, but when your only getting 30 FPS, 5 is alot.). SnesJ4U also seemed like a good alternative, and the sound on it is beautiful, the problem is, iirc, that it doesnt allow for a boxed-landscape display. Does anyone know of a good, up-to-date emulator that can hit over 35 FPS on a TyTN II, not overclocked and running the previous HTC ROM (the one before WM 6.1) and run in boxed-landscape mode?
The reason threads regarding this topic are dated is because people read them and don't find a need to post a new thread. CLICK HERE (http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw&q=kaiser+snes+emulator&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
bubbleking2
25th May 2008, 04:10 AM
No offence, but that search link was the exact thing I searched for and it didnt help much. And your post, by the way, does not seem to make sense.
People say not to make new threads if there is already an existing thread about a subject. By your logic, if a subject has no thread made about it, then it is not important. Should people just never make new threads? This has only now become a problem because the older emulators do not seem to run well on current HTC phones for some reason, in fact, alot of my programs seem slower. I was wondering if there are any newer alternatives yet and since I have found no information about that from the search function, I figured it was worth posting about. But, anyways, thanks for your help.
daedric
25th May 2008, 04:55 AM
Does anyone know of a good SNES emulator for the TyTn II? I have already searched the forums and have found that most of the posts about this subject are quite dated. I am currently using PocketSnes by Bleeding edge, but the sound on this emulator is of poor quailty. Also, for some reason, this seems to run remarkably better on my Mogul? I have downloaded different versions of this software, apparently 'upgrades' and they do have more game compatibility, but they sacrifice alot of FPS (about 5, but when your only getting 30 FPS, 5 is alot.). SnesJ4U also seemed like a good alternative, and the sound on it is beautiful, the problem is, iirc, that it doesnt allow for a boxed-landscape display. Does anyone know of a good, up-to-date emulator that can hit over 35 FPS on a TyTN II, not overclocked and running the previous HTC ROM (the one before WM 6.1) and run in boxed-landscape mode?
Damn... you get 25 FPS?? I'm using MorphGear... and although i don't have a fps counter, i think i'm having less than 14.
Anyhow... at least with morphgear.. although the sound is great (16bit, 44100khz, stereo, interpolated, echoed etc) the speed sucks. even if i disable sound completly... the speed sucks. tried with SM All Stars, and Chrono Trigger.
KD8DNS
25th May 2008, 05:18 AM
No offence, but that search link was the exact thing I searched for and it didnt help much. And your post, by the way, does not seem to make sense.
People say not to make new threads if there is already an existing thread about a subject. By your logic, if a subject has no thread made about it, then it is not important. Should people just never make new threads? This has only now become a problem because the older emulators do not seem to run well on current HTC phones for some reason, in fact, alot of my programs seem slower. I was wondering if there are any newer alternatives yet and since I have found no information about that from the search function, I figured it was worth posting about. But, anyways, thanks for your help.
If you post in a existing thread it brings it to the front of the line...
bubbleking2
25th May 2008, 07:13 AM
Actually, im getting around ~30 FPS average, ~20 FPS in some of the slower parts of games and shooting to ~40 in faster parts (with minimal action). Most of these tests have been done with Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana, They were run when I completely disabled sound though. I also recommend against using n0p's Snes ports. I dont mean any offence to him, but his roms seem to be a trade-off in performance for compatibility. Im running my emus on an AT&T Tilt with a 5200 chipset, I have a 5201 it runs the games about ~1-2 FPS faster on average, nothing amazing. I thought that by now there would be a better (updated) version of PocketSnes that could emulate sound like on Snes9xJ4U. I still have to try running them with another ROM, but im not flashing my device till next week (long story).
I got my current emulator here http://paqpark.nuclearfallout.net/projects/pocketsnes.php
neva dinova
25th May 2008, 07:22 AM
snesx9j4u would be awesome if you could get to play in landscape but is not as compatible as morphgear and as far as speed you to use shogunmarks rom of death no offense to anyone else that cooks but for me that rom is definitely faster that the others. once again i totally respect and appreciate all the people
here at xda developers with out them my tilt would be useless
Isaygarcia
25th May 2008, 07:24 AM
cook pocketsnes into a ROM :D
bubbleking2
25th May 2008, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the tip, neva dinova, I will try out that rom first thing next week and see how everything runs.
simbadogg
26th May 2008, 05:11 AM
...People say not to make new threads if there is already an existing thread about a subject. By your logic, if a subject has no thread made about it, then it is not important. Should people just never make new threads?....
this is not that he is saying, and if you're assuming this is so, i dont think you understand the etiquette of this or any other forum. What he is saying is if someone posted a topic that says "how to i accomplish A" its bad for you, or anyone else to come in after the fact and make another post with the subject of "how do i accomplish A" version 2. all this is doing is polluting the boards, and creating a lot of excess material that comes up when people actually do lengthy and thorough searches.
If that still doesn't make sense, when person 3 finally comes around as is going to search for the same topic, they're going to find not 1, but 2 topics. now imagine if, on some subjects this were multiplied by 2,3,4,5 or even 10 as far as the search results. it kinda makes searching more time consuming an redundant. Even if you're having some problems w/ a newer version of roms, or newer version of NES emulators, STILL post it in the FIRST topic...all related material should always be in the same post...always
bubbleking2
26th May 2008, 06:15 AM
Again, I searched and found nothing. How can you guys not understand that? Its people like you that ruin forums. I am asking a valid question that has not been brought up before and allinstead of actually helping or adding to the conversation you just make useless posts about the search function which I USED IN THE FIRST PLACE. But, if you can prove to me that I used the search function incorrectly by providing me a link to a thread where a topic about this subject has already been created I will admit that im wrong and your right.
simbadogg
26th May 2008, 06:35 AM
i'm not saying you didn't search buddy...but judging by the way you reacted to an above poster, and judging by what you posted in your above post. you didn't understand the guidelines as far as posting. regardless, if you had any questions, you would have been better off first making your reply in the exiting thread, then started a new topic if no replies were made. thats all i'm saying
bubbleking2
26th May 2008, 02:03 PM
Okay, I know what your saying, and for the last time, I SEARCHED before posting. Not only that, but I found somone asking the same (or at least a similar) question that I just asked in a thread with a different topic, however, no one has responded to him so far and its been a good half year. I think I had the right to create a new thread on this topic.
I dont understand what problem some people have where whenever somone makes a new thread, they almost s*** themsleves if its not relavant to them.
So explain to me how I did not follow the 'posting guidlines'?
bronx
26th May 2008, 05:14 PM
allright there blood? no need to worry anymore- not all of us are moddie-wanna-be... :P (no offence, but...)
so imho the best one is: http://n0p.tonych.info/?PocketSNES
have fun with that.
peace
bro
neva dinova
26th May 2008, 08:41 PM
allright there blood? no need to worry anymore- not all of us are moddie-wanna-be... :P (no offence, but...)
so imho the best one is: http://n0p.tonych.info/?PocketSNES
have fun with that.
peace
bro
this is the emu i use as well and as long as you turn off auto frame skip and set it to 4 or 5 frame skips everything i have played plays great even super mario collection witch i hadnt been able to play at a decent speed in morph gear
Imperium
26th May 2008, 09:47 PM
allright there blood? no need to worry anymore- not all of us are moddie-wanna-be... :P (no offence, but...)
so imho the best one is: http://n0p.tonych.info/?PocketSNES
have fun with that.
peace
bro
My device crashes when i try to load a SMC file (ROM)... i need to have the WM5 (VGA COMPAT) version right? or the 2003 ARM?
bronx
26th May 2008, 10:22 PM
wm5 mate.
what rom are You using?? 6.1? :P no probs on 6.0 here Mate. :cool:
br
bro
Imperium
26th May 2008, 11:35 PM
Yeah, 6.1.
*edit: didnt read properly, wm5 version... ok weird... need to try again soon.
bubbleking2
27th May 2008, 04:09 AM
I tried n0p's before, and it didnt work well. Ill try it again tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks for your help!
ChumleyEX
27th May 2008, 02:16 PM
Okay, I know what your saying, and for the last time, I SEARCHED before posting. Not only that, but I found somone asking the same (or at least a similar) question that I just asked in a thread with a different topic, however, no one has responded to him so far and its been a good half year. I think I had the right to create a new thread on this topic.
I dont understand what problem some people have where whenever somone makes a new thread, they almost s*** themsleves if its not relavant to them.
So explain to me how I did not follow the 'posting guidlines'?
I searched I searched
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306444&highlight=snes
bubbleking2
27th May 2008, 06:03 PM
Thanks for your link dude but did you realize that its about half a year old, and in the topic, the other links that are provided are over a year old. Thanks for trying but I am looking for something a little more up to date.
ChumleyEX
27th May 2008, 06:13 PM
oh so you need something that isn't just accurate, it has to be new. Ah Gotcha.
Maybe I could copy and paste all of that into a new thread and it would work for you? hmm ? A little copy and paste? On a new thread? just paste it on a new thread to mmm make you happy?
bubbleking2
27th May 2008, 08:34 PM
To ChumleyEx
The emulators in that thread are very outdated, I had gone through that thread already but I had not obtained any information from it that I did not already know. I wanted to know if there are any newer emulators. I figured responses would come more quickly if I had just created a new thread and now, i am almost certain that I was right seeing at how quickly I got responses here. I also did go into looking for another emulator myself and I came across someone who is currently updating PocketSnes for current HTC devices.
Information becomes outdated with time, none of the emulators in that thread are optimized (or at least not optimized well) for current HTC devices. Therefore I found that thread useless to post in. The thread itself is not that old, but the information inside of it needs to be updated.
And also, I do not understand what you mean by saying that it would be good if you reposted it. The information in it was not very accurate to begin with, it is to a point, but there are newer alternatives to the emulators posted there. I think you need to think a little more before posting, also, re-read your posts, you have twice posted the same thing multiple times in one post. Re-read what you type before you post, we do not want to waste our time reading the same thing twice.
Off-topic: Why do you guys act like the creation of a new thread is worse than murder?
neva dinova
27th May 2008, 10:40 PM
To ChumleyEx
The emulators in that thread are very outdated, I had gone through that thread already but I had not obtained any information from it that I did not already know. I wanted to know if there are any newer emulators. I figured responses would come more quickly if I had just created a new thread and now, i am almost certain that I was right seeing at how quickly I got responses here. I also did go into looking for another emulator myself and I came across someone who is currently updating PocketSnes for current HTC devices.
Information becomes outdated with time, none of the emulators in that thread are optimized (or at least not optimized well) for current HTC devices. Therefore I found that thread useless to post in. The thread itself is not that old, but the information inside of it needs to be updated.
And also, I do not understand what you mean by saying that it would be good if you reposted it. The information in it was not very accurate to begin with, it is to a point, but there are newer alternatives to the emulators posted there. I think you need to think a little more before posting, also, re-read your posts, you have twice posted the same thing multiple times in one post. Re-read what you type before you post, we do not want to waste our time reading the same thing twice.
Off-topic: Why do you guys act like the creation of a new thread is worse than murder?
who is updating emus and any idea when they will be ready
kyphur
27th May 2008, 11:23 PM
...
Information becomes outdated with time, none of the emulators in that thread are optimized (or at least not optimized well) for current HTC devices. Therefore I found that thread useless to post in. The thread itself is not that old, but the information inside of it needs to be updated.
....
Off-topic: Why do you guys act like the creation of a new thread is worse than murder?
Here is the crux of the situation:
Yes, the existing threads have old(ish) info in them.
Yes, if these is NEW information it needs to be posted.
Now, what you should have done is asked if anyone was aware fo any of the existing emus being updated in the existing thread so that the thread would have the benefit of being kept up to date.
In the event you found an older emu that has been updated you could also update the existing thread with the new information thus providing a service to the whole community.
Now why, you ask is using an existing thread beter than starting a new thread? Well, my friend, I'll tell you. The simplest explaination is that it dilutes the search results.Lets say there are only 5 threads discussing SNES emulators. When you search you can have the results returned showing threads and you know that you only need to look at those 5 threads. Now if there are 30 threads then you might only look at 5 get tired and ask the same question that was asked & answered in the 7th thread.
eXceed
28th May 2008, 12:30 AM
http://www.modaco.com/category/38/smartphone-software-games/
Thats the latest stuff about games I could find, hope its all good :)
bubbleking2
28th May 2008, 12:31 AM
I see kyphur, thanks for this information. I am still surprised that people get so mad about it, I did not realize that threads in this forum were not purged very often, sorry.
As for the updates, a guy on the PocketSnes forum apparently said he would be updating them. Hopefully he comes through, if he does, I will post a link to where he is hosting the files. If not, I myself will (probably) update them over the next two months (luckily I am on break).
Also a guy on the Snes9x forums was talking about porting it to ARM processors himself, although I can not quite remember when he posted this.
Menneisyys
28th May 2008, 08:10 AM
Thanks for your link dude but did you realize that its about half a year old, and in the topic, the other links that are provided are over a year old. Thanks for trying but I am looking for something a little more up to date.
It is one year old but in the meantime there haven't been any new releases. That is, the Bible is still up-to-date.
Note that, on the other hand, it doesn't contain Kaiser-specifc info, "only" info on (several) other models.
Menneisyys
28th May 2008, 08:14 AM
The emulators in that thread are very outdated, I had gone through that thread already but I had not obtained any information from it that I did not already know. I wanted to know if there are any newer emulators. I figured responses would come more quickly if I had just created a new thread and now, i am almost certain that I was right seeing at how quickly I got responses here. I also did go into looking for another emulator myself and I came across someone who is currently updating PocketSnes for current HTC devices.
There aren't - except for a new version of PocketSNES (which is linked to from #9) with really minor updates and SmartGear's announcement of consisting of SNES emulation (which is, currently, VERY bad - I'll announce when it gets decent emulation support). No other, new versions. All in all, the Bible is in no way outdated.
Menneisyys
28th May 2008, 09:55 AM
who is updating emus and any idea when they will be ready
see my last post
ChumleyEX
28th May 2008, 03:32 PM
See, I started a thread just like this awhile back and Menneisyys was kind enough to link his bible (which took care of my problem). I read over a lot of his posts because they were so awsome. I knew it was up to date because he is alway pumping this stuff out. You didn't want to beleive me so I got the master himself involved. His kung fu is strong
freekquency
28th May 2008, 10:24 PM
edit -- someone said no rom links.
my bad
And morphgear does work in landscape for me,, you need to open the individual program (snes) and hit landscape.
some games it borks out on, but the few i use have np's.
bubbleking2
29th May 2008, 05:33 AM
Morphgear doesnt flip to landscape, which eliminates a ton of button possibilities.
neva dinova
29th May 2008, 07:49 AM
Morphgear doesnt flip to landscape, which eliminates a ton of button possibilities.
youve got to open morphgear while already in landscape
Menneisyys
1st June 2008, 10:45 PM
edit -- someone said no rom links.
.
here at xda-devs? We don't take this issue that seriously - unlike current, pirated warez.
freekquency
4th June 2008, 10:47 AM
Well some nut pm'ed me saying i BETTER REM OVE IT QUICK!
HAHAH ggeeeek much.
Menneisyys
6th June 2008, 11:46 AM
Well some nut pm'ed me
But not a mod? In general, I don't find linking to old, *abandonware* console ROM's illegal.
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