Fix for freezes WWE official 6.1 (only if using HardSPL) - Confirmed

[RPG0]

Hi !

By freeze i mean: tap the screen or press keys and nothing happens for 2-5 seconds. This would happen to me about once every 2 minutes.

This is what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
I used the SPL extracted from the nbh of the official wm6.1 build which reverted my SPL back to the official one. You won't be able to flash a custom ROM anymore, until you install HardSPL again.

I have been using the Kaiser for about 30 min and no freeze.

It was not my idea that it was a SPL issue, someone mentioned this in a thread about the leaked WWE 6.1 (which is identical to the official WWE one)

edit1: This only applies if you installed HardSPL
edit2: Thanks to shafez for being the first to think about this. Apparently i was trying it at the same time as him, so i didn't know he also posted the results, that's why i started the thread as soon as saw the fix worked.

[neva dinova]

did you notice any other improvements like speed?

[xwaiz]

Hi !

By freeze i mean: tap the screen or press keys and nothing happens for 2-5 seconds. This would happen to me about once every 2 minutes.

This is what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
I used the SPL extracted from the nbh of the official wm6.1 build which reverted my SPL back to the official one. You won't be able to flash a custom ROM anymore, until you install HardSPL again.

I have been using the Kaiser for about 30 min and no freeze.

It was not my idea that it was a SPL issue, someone mentioned this in a thread about the leaked WWE 6.1 (which is identical to the official WWE one)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2230736&postcount=206

It seems change the pagepool to 16MB helped. I tested, it works for me.

[SecureGSM]

Thats more like it .. :)


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2230736&postcount=206

It seems change the pagepool to 16MB helped. I tested, it works for me.

[NoFatePPC]

can some1 post in this thread how to fix the pagepool? some sort of manual?

thnx a lot

[RizwanKhan]

can some1 post in this thread how to fix the pagepool? some sort of manual?

thnx a lot

kyphur has a pagepool patcher program that allows u to modify pagepool of ur rom nbh very easily.

use search; its on here. use a phrase like "kyphur pagepool patcher" which should bring up promising results.

[Isaygarcia]

SSOO

what you did exactly?

u changed PP or flashed another SPL, if its SPL, could you post it?

[bengalih]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2230736&postcount=206

It seems change the pagepool to 16MB helped. I tested, it works for me.

I don't doubt that you are experiencing better behavior, but I would like to get some more information on this from a developer who actually understands the mechanics here.

I am certainly not that person, but as I understand it the SPL is a bootloader. As such, I'm not really sure what it has to do with operation of the OS after the OS is booted.

In addition, everything I understand about the pagepool, and changing the pagepool, I have a hard time understanding how a different SPL is going to change the size of the pool.

Again, I don't doubt your experiences, and even if we get 100 people saying this worked for them I would like to understand why this would possibly work.

Any actual developers have any input? (please, my amateurish suppositions are enough guesswork, if you don't have educated answers there isn't need to postulate).

[Infuruno]

Can you upload the 6.1 spl here and this should work on an MDa Vario III right?

[mcfarlan]

Don't really know much about all of the techie stuff but I have also found that by reducing the cache sizes to "advised" and the PP to 16MB I do not experience any freezes. I have been running Dutty's test and also tried it with both L26 Roms and it works every time.

[gauntman]

Just flashed the official new rom om my brand new phone and I´m not having any freezing issues. The phone was not hardspl as it was new out of the box.

I am certainly not that person, but as I understand it the SPL is a bootloader. As such, I'm not really sure what it has to do with operation of the OS after the OS is booted.

I´m not into the workings of the device and not a hacker/programmer of any kind but what comes to mind is that if there is some incompability with the bootloader and the OS and the bootloader loads the OS the wrong way it seems natural to me that you will get errors that may result in strange behaviours of the OS. It may not be a large error and therefore the OS loads but with faults resultning in "bugs".

or its simply a bad rom. I will refrain from going to hardspl and testdrive the rom for a few weeks and se if I can come up with som errors.

[holzzelt]

can someone maybe upload german fixed version? thank you!

[rdy2go]

16 mb page pool really helps!

Very easy to do just using xda page pool patcher.

Do not forget to click "Save" button and then "Analyse" again to confirm .nbh file was updated successfully.

[SCSweeps]

n00b question:

What is a nbh and pagepool? Will this affect the performance? I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

[curtislanham]

I don't post a lot, and I do not know the technical ins and outs of the SPL, but here is a theory. While browsing one of the threads regarding the video acceleration drivers, someone mentioned that the SPL could have something to do with initiating video acceleration. If this official release was supposed to have any sort of graphics fix, maybe something exists in the SPL of the official release that doesn't exist in HardSPL, and that is the reason we are experiencing the freezes. Just a thought.

I don't doubt that you are experiencing better behavior, but I would like to get some more information on this from a developer who actually understands the mechanics here.

I am certainly not that person, but as I understand it the SPL is a bootloader. As such, I'm not really sure what it has to do with operation of the OS after the OS is booted.

In addition, everything I understand about the pagepool, and changing the pagepool, I have a hard time understanding how a different SPL is going to change the size of the pool.

Again, I don't doubt your experiences, and even if we get 100 people saying this worked for them I would like to understand why this would possibly work.

Any actual developers have any input? (please, my amateurish suppositions are enough guesswork, if you don't have educated answers there isn't need to postulate).

[xwaiz]

SSOO

what you did exactly?

u changed PP or flashed another SPL, if its SPL, could you post it?

I only changed pagepool to 16MB. Did not touch SPL (I think I'm using hardSPL).

[RPG0]

Follow up: still no hang/freeze.

To sum up:
after flashing some 6.1 cooked builds around here, i noticed the device would stop responding, i tried two of Dutty's, one Vista, the Diamond V1, maybe some other too. They all had this issue, so i just waited for the official one, hoping that the freezes would be gone. They weren't.

So here's how i fixed it:
I flashed back the original 6.0 official ROM and saw there were no hangs / freezes. So the HW was ok.
After that i flashed the official wm 6.1 from HTC. Then i followed the "Idiot steps" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568) without any shortcuts (first 14 steps, i skipped step 15 ;) ) and used the 6.1 ROM, not the 6.0 ROM to obtain the nbh file. Flashed the official SPL and hard reset.
All is well now (except i have to remove HTC Home and soft reset to use iGo).

No freezes for a day.

[RPG0]

Just flashed the official new rom om my brand new phone and I´m not having any freezing issues. The phone was not hardspl as it was new out of the box.


This supports my theory that 6.1 needs another SPL, probably not compatible with the old HardSPL

[bnycastro]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2230736&postcount=206

It seems change the pagepool to 16MB helped. I tested, it works for me.what is the original pagepool of the WM6.1 ROM just in case I want to revert back to it?

[lipa47]

This supports my theory that 6.1 needs another SPL, probably not compatible with the old HardSPL

Just one question. What Country ID I should set in htc rom tool, to make it look exactly like UK htc branded kaiser?

[RPG0]

Hmmm, i have no idea about Country ID

[draxredd]

the freeze (slowdowns, really) only happens during the first hour or two after flashing. guess WM6.1 has some prefetch system like vista.
I've not tweaked anything and slowdowns have disapeared.
I'm running WM6.1 htc official upgrade with 24Mb dynamic pagepool and kaisertweak's recomanded caches.

so i'm one happy panda.

[RPG0]

the freeze (slowdowns, really) only happens during the first hour or two after flashing. guess WM6.1 has some prefetch system like vista.
I've not tweaked anything and slowdowns have disapeared.
I'm running WM6.1 htc official upgrade with 24Mb dynamic pagepool and kaisertweak's recomanded caches.

so i'm one happy panda.

1. They're not slowdowns. We're talking about actual freezes because the screen taps and keypresses get lost, unlike usual windows behaviour (WM and Win for PC) where the events (clicks and keys) get queued. So the problem is deep in the kernel/os.

2. When i had them on other ROMs, I agree after a while i either got used to them or they weren't so often, but it might have been a placebo effect. But now they're gone from the first second after the flash

[lipa47]

I asked about CID because I got rom wwe 1.56.405 at the moment. And I flashed 1.56 spl so I thought it makes it exactly like htc branded, but when I'm trying to flash official 6.1 it doesn't flash and says wrong rom :(

[Magic_Knight]

I have the same problem and I have never used HardSPL... I simply upgraded my original italian firmware with the official HTC updated one... and now I have random freezes and an unresponsive touchscreen :mad:

[fonuza]

Spl now reads
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8

Thank you, did the same followed instructions/links/linked programs on this thread (thank you very mucho) and used oem htc 6.1 Spl. I had same problem with freeze and missing taps after upg to HTC WWE WM6.1 and flashed/flashed back to 6.0/hard reset/soft reset many times but now its working fine after SPL change, been playing with it (my Kaiser) for 40 min haven't encountered missing taps or freeze. Gonna try install sum stuff and keep testing it out. I have been using my finger (finger cramp) and not the stylus.

HTC TytnII
Oem HTC WM6.1 (currently nothing else installed)

[dang]

I asked about CID because I got rom wwe 1.56.405 at the moment. And I flashed 1.56 spl so I thought it makes it exactly like htc branded, but when I'm trying to flash official 6.1 it doesn't flash and says wrong rom :(

I'm having the same issue with my 1.81.707.0 WWE rom. I started another thread to find out how (without HardSPL or the like) to read what the CID is from a phone.

If you find a solution for this that doesn't require HardSPL please share...

[monx®]

Hi !

By freeze i mean: tap the screen or press keys and nothing happens for 2-5 seconds. This would happen to me about once every 2 minutes.

This is what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568


YES! This is really hard to believe for non-believers but i've tried all kaiser pagepool changer & it doesn't fix this issue. The original HTC SPL fixed. (HTC never fixed actually, they fuxed!) Thanx RPG0.

[lipa47]

Thank you, did the same followed instructions/links/linked programs on this thread (thank you very mucho) and used oem htc 6.1 Spl. I had same problem with freeze and missing taps after upg to HTC WWE WM6.1 and flashed/flashed back to 6.0/hard reset/soft reset many times but now its working fine after SPL change, been playing with it (my Kaiser) for 40 min haven't encountered missing taps or freeze. Gonna try install sum stuff and keep testing it out. I have been using my finger (finger cramp) and not the stylus.


Fine, the only question is: can you still do hard-spl in case of future flashings? Because you won't be able flash anything with that spl you have at the moment.

[monx®]

Fine, the only question is: can you still do hard-spl in case of future flashings? Because you won't be able flash anything with that spl you have at the moment.

Of course, just use pof's Hard-SPL_V1.

[lipa47]

Yeah, but did you try to flash hard-spl after that to be sure?

[monx®]

Yeah, but did you try to flash hard-spl after that to be sure?

OMG, of course pal :p

[lipa47]

Ok, thanks. I flashed hard-spl after 1.56 so I just wanted to be sure if I still will be able to do that after 3.28

[RPG0]

YES! This is really hard to believe for non-believers but i've tried all kaiser pagepool changer & it doesn't fix this issue. The original HTC SPL fixed. (HTC never fixed actually, they fuxed!) Thanx RPG0.

You're welcome !
I'm glad i have a confirmation now that it wasn't just a freak accident.

[lipa47]

I flashed polish official version 6.1 and spl extracted from that rom. Everything works flawless for now. I will report later because I'm testing now. But it was freezing with hard-spl.

Maybe spl is not just a bootloader, maybe it's some kind of bios like in PC???

[rohanmaini]

Hi !

I used the SPL extracted from the nbh of the official wm6.1 build which reverted my SPL back to the official one.

I am a little confused...

Where can I find the SPL extracted from the official HTC wm6.1 ROM.

Let me say what i think you are saying.... correct me if I am wrong.

a. I already have Hard SPL installed.
b. i am using the L26 Diaomand V2 Rom

1. You are suggesting I install the original HTC rom and Extarct the SPL portion.
2. Install Hard SPL once again.
3. Reflash a custom Rom
4. and then Flash the extracted HTC wm6.1 SPL

The reason I am confused is that I read on some other threads that even if I install the official HTC wm6.1 rom the SPL does not change and I do not have to install hardspl again to flash a custom ROM.

But if that is correct then how exactly am I going to extract the SPL from the orginal HTC wm6.1 Rom. (coz Ialready have hardspl)


Hope what I saying make sense to someone... not tooo sure I understand what I have just written myself

[RPG0]

I am a little confused...

Where can I find the SPL extracted from the official HTC wm6.1 ROM.

Let me say what i think you are saying.... correct me if I am wrong.

a. I already have Hard SPL installed.
b. i am using the L26 Diaomand V2 Rom

1. You are suggesting I install the original HTC rom and Extarct the SPL portion.
2. Install Hard SPL once again.
3. Reflash a custom Rom
4. and then Flash the extracted HTC wm6.1 SPL

The reason I am confused is that I read on some other threads that even if I install the official HTC wm6.1 rom the SPL does not change and I do not have to install hardspl again to flash a custom ROM.

But if that is correct then how exactly am I going to extract the SPL from the orginal HTC wm6.1 Rom. (coz Ialready have hardspl)


Hope what I saying make sense to someone... not tooo sure I understand what I have just written myself

No, what i'm saying is you should use official SPL (keep it, not just flash it for a while) if you use official wm6.1 and the freezes will be gone. If you use custom ROM, you have to wait until a new HardSPL is released.

edit: hmmm, you might be right, actually

[ehsanuetian]

My bootloader screen is like this

KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8

Is it ok? or should i adopt the whole procedure you mentioned???:confused:

[fireblade63]

No, what i'm saying is you should use official SPL (keep it, not just flash it for a while) if you use official wm6.1 and the freezes will be gone. If you use custom ROM, you have to wait until a new HardSPL is released.

edit: hmmm, you might be right, actually

ok man, nice feedback.
Im going to extract the nbh for SPL and have the exe ready from the new 6.1
Flash it
then flash its ROM

But I need some feedback 1st if u dont mind.
did u try video playback (you have not commented on that)?
I believe that a certain member in another thread of the same rom was stating that he has very fast playback and even the program list is scrolling smoothly like any normal 3 year old PPC:)
Is it true?

try playing like 5 different wmv's with different bitrates and an avi 700MB if you don't mind.
Also, check that program list scrolling thing

I know it is alot to ask, but I am really hating this piece of shit more day by day

Thanks in advance

[elmoono]

I find it hard to believe a bootloader can affect system performance. Is it really possible it acts as a bios as well? I had the occasional input freeze issue on my phone at new with WM6 and original spl, going to hardspl and upgrading various 6.1 roms over the last few months has made this no worse, indeed a couple of roms (dutty hybrid v1 and april 29) seamed to make the htc more responsive, with far less random input freezes.
Pof would like to hear your views on this -?
:confused:

[Carlis]

Have SPL-1.1.JockyW ( Security Unlocked )
Tryed Swedish Official WM 6.1.
Have no problem at all with freezes.

Have had it before on other roms...
but set the caches in Kaiser tweak to adviced use to cure it.

[Laurentius26]

Hi RPG0,

That someone you mention here is a good friend of mine!

Why did you open this thread if it's not your idea!

Why you didn't ask him first?

This is realy bad :mad:




Hi !

By freeze i mean: tap the screen or press keys and nothing happens for 2-5 seconds. This would happen to me about once every 2 minutes.

This is what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
I used the SPL extracted from the nbh of the official wm6.1 build which reverted my SPL back to the official one. You won't be able to flash a custom ROM anymore, until you install HardSPL again.

I have been using the Kaiser for about 30 min and no freeze.

It was not my idea that it was a SPL issue, someone mentioned this in a thread about the leaked WWE 6.1 (which is identical to the official WWE one)

edit: This only applies if you installed HardSPL

[sharkonholiday]

hi
could someone tell me the right file to use...or uplink???
for a kaiser 130 unbranded
thanks

[lipa47]

I find it hard to believe a bootloader can affect system performance. Is it really possible it acts as a bios as well? I had the occasional input freeze issue on my phone at new with WM6 and original spl, going to hardspl and upgrading various 6.1 roms over the last few months has made this no worse, indeed a couple of roms (dutty hybrid v1 and april 29) seamed to make the htc more responsive, with far less random input freezes.
Pof would like to hear your views on this -?
:confused:

I have no idea if spl i just bootloader or not, but since I flashed spl extracted from my rom no more freezing issue :confused:

[eva_d]

I've had similar freezes with original WM6.1, so I've just reflashed original SPL (using idiot guide). I'd need to wait a little bit more to verify there are no more freezes, but I can already see for sure that Kaiser is even snappier just after reboot.

Thanks RPG0 for your advise on it.

[McHale]

Hi RPG0,

That someone you mention here is a good friend of mine!

Why did you open this thread if it's not your idea!

Why you didn't ask him first?

This is realy bad :mad:

Leo, in all due respect, you have to be shitting me. You're suggesting that we need to get permission to post about something we read about in another thread?!?

This thread is entirely necessary and in fact, is totally appropriate as it doesn't hijack the other thread. It's not like he stated it was his idea and he came up with it all by himself. I'm not seeing the problem here.

-Mc

[bengalih]

Leo, in all due respect, you have to be shitting me. You're suggesting that we need to get permission to post about something we read about in another thread?!?

This thread is entirely necessary and in fact, is totally appropriate as it doesn't hijack the other thread. It's not like he stated it was his idea and he came up with it all by himself. I'm not seeing the problem here.

-Mc

Agreed, the OP even stated:

It was not my idea that it was a SPL issue, someone mentioned this in a thread about the leaked WWE 6.1

And even without that...99% of what goes around this forum and is stated by members is stuff they learned themselves from other people. Everytime you provide some sort of answer like "you need to HardSPL" or "Change this reg key...", etc, is credit given to the first person who did that? No.
The OP is not trying to take this as his own, if anything he is helping out the community by making this possible solution more visible.

[ricky_619]

Follow up: still no hang/freeze.

To sum up:
after flashing some 6.1 cooked builds around here, i noticed the device would stop responding, i tried two of Dutty's, one Vista, the Diamond V1, maybe some other too. They all had this issue, so i just waited for the official one, hoping that the freezes would be gone. They weren't.

So here's how i fixed it:
I flashed back the original 6.0 official ROM and saw there were no hangs / freezes. So the HW was ok.
After that i flashed the official wm 6.1 from HTC. Then i followed the "Idiot steps" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568) without any shortcuts (first 14 steps, i skipped step 15 ;) ) and used the 6.1 ROM, not the 6.0 ROM to obtain the nbh file. Flashed the official SPL and hard reset.
All is well now (except i have to remove HTC Home and soft reset to use iGo).

No freezes for a day.


Successful!!! It worked! My Kaiser now run smooth with HTC WM 6.1

THANKS

[meanvulcan]

So... can someone confirm this for me?

- Flash the stock SPL to fix the issue, can be done after a Custom ROM's been flashed (so the net result is a stock SPL with a Custom ROM)... correct?

- Alternatively change the PagePool to 16MB, keep using HardSPL. Correct? Can this be done on a loaded ROM, or does the NBH file have to be modified and reflashed?

[Rumball]

Thanks for this information. I had occassional freezes on my HTC Kaiser with the WWE 6.1 ROM. Just flashed the official SPL and will see how it works.

I just thought I'd mention to people reading this thread that flashing the SPL did not affect my installed apps....i.e. the flashing of the boot loader doesn't wipe your Kaiser back to a hard-reset state. I was worried about this myself...and was glad to see that I didn't have to restore from a backup after the SPL flashing...:)

[lipa47]

So... can someone confirm this for me?

- Flash the stock SPL to fix the issue, can be done after a Custom ROM's been flashed (so the net result is a stock SPL with a Custom ROM)... correct?

- Alternatively change the PagePool to 16MB, keep using HardSPL. Correct? Can this be done on a loaded ROM, or does the NBH file have to be modified and reflashed?

You have to flash your rom first, that one for example:

RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship

Then spl.


By the way, still no freezings on my kaiser!!!

[MickyMax]

Can we flash HardSPL after original SPL ?

[DracoLX]

Hi guys.
I'm trying to follow the Idiot's Guide to flash original SPL for the official 6.1 HTC rom. I went trough all the steps without any problem until run SSPL-KAIS.
I ran it from my phone twice and after the bootloader mode run the KaiserCustomRUU without any luck. Doesn't comunicate with the phone.
What am i missing here?

Must i run SSPL-KAIS and only after that plug the USB cable? Sorry but now i'm really confused here :confused:

Draco

[RPG0]

Hi RPG0,

That someone you mention here is a good friend of mine!

Why did you open this thread if it's not your idea!

Why you didn't ask him first?

This is realy bad :mad:

See first post (edit2)
Also you might want to see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385080
and this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2121852&postcount=4
(check dates) - i was watching this issue for a while.

[RPG0]

Hi guys.
I'm trying to follow the Idiot's Guide to flash original SPL for the official 6.1 HTC rom. I went trough all the steps without any problem until run SSPL-KAIS.
I ran it from my phone twice and after the bootloader mode run the KaiserCustomRUU without any luck. Doesn't comunicate with the phone.
What am i missing here?

Must i run SSPL-KAIS and only after that plug the USB cable? Sorry but now i'm really confused here :confused:

Draco

I had the same issue
Unplug and replug your phone, and wait a little for the USB drivers on the PC to load (around 4-10 seconds)

[RPG0]

Can we flash HardSPL after original SPL ?

It was answered before in this thread. Short: yes !

[ehsanuetian]

My bootloader screen is like this

KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8

Is it ok? or should i adopt the whole procedure you mentioned???:confused:

Can any body explain what this information shows? Thanks

[DracoLX]

Thanks :)

The reason i'm reverting to the stock SPL is the famous issue about USB car charging. I only started to have problems with my car charger after SPL. I'm not saying HardSPL is the cause but... i want to check. I will thest the ROM with the new SPL and give you feedback tomorrow.

Thanks again RPG0

Draco

[gfreek]

for those who have extracted the official SPL please post it here, I'm having a b*****d of time extracting it even after following the idiot guide, i put the NBHexctract.exe and RUU_signed.nbh in temp folder then ran cmd prompt the following C:\temp\>nbhextract.exe RUU_signed.nbh nothing happens is it because I'm using vista?

[andret]

for those who have extracted the official SPL please post it here, I'm having a b*****d of time extracting it even after following the idiot guide, i put the NBHexctract.exe and RUU_signed.nbh in temp folder then ran cmd prompt the following C:\temp\>nbhextract.exe RUU_signed.nbh nothing happens is it because I'm using vista?

Use at your own risk :)

I loaded this... running official htc with 18pp - no problems so far.

http://rapidshare.com/files/117807517/HTC_SPL_3.28.rar.html

[hesbas]

Just to be sure...

Using a Vario III with HTC 6.1 on it now... also freezes. :(

So going back to the original SPL is in my mind now... But witch SPL should I use. The one from HTC in the 6.1 rom or the one from T-Mobile in the 6.0 rom. What is the risk using the HTC one on a MDA Vario III.

It looks like freezing is worse after comming out of standby. Disabeling HTC Home helped a little.

[RPG0]

Just to be sure...

Using a Vario III with HTC 6.1 on it now... also freezes. :(

So going back to the original SPL is in my mind now... But witch SPL should I use. The one from HTC in the 6.1 rom or the one from T-Mobile in the 6.0 rom. What is the risk using the HTC one on a MDA Vario III.

It looks like freezing is worse after comming out of standby. Disabeling HTC Home helped a little.
Use SPL extracted from Official 6.1

[andret]

If there's something special to the SPL that comes with the HTC WM6.1 (which certianly seems to be the case so far) then you'd probably rather use the one that comes with the WM6.1 rom.

[fireblade63]

ok man, nice feedback.
Im going to extract the nbh for SPL and have the exe ready from the new 6.1
Flash it
then flash its ROM

But I need some feedback 1st if u dont mind.
did u try video playback (you have not commented on that)?
I believe that a certain member in another thread of the same rom was stating that he has very fast playback and even the program list is scrolling smoothly like any normal 3 year old PPC:)
Is it true?

try playing like 5 different wmv's with different bitrates and an avi 700MB if you don't mind.
Also, check that program list scrolling thing

I know it is alot to ask, but I am really hating this piece of shit more day by day

Thanks in advance

RPG0,

If possible, update me on how video playback speed is and program list scrolling.

Thank you in advance

[MooCan]

Hi,

If we reinstall HardSPL after the upgrade to the new WM61 SPL (for using general WWE ROM on french device) does it correct the problem ?

Thanks in advance
Moo

[merten3000]

put page pool back to normal and flashed original spl (3.29)
runs smooth so far....

[fireblade63]

Could someone kindly upload the SSPL-KAIS.exe file onto 4shared or mediafire or something of that sort??
Much appreciated

[TrainRekS]

Has anyone with a Tilt tried reverting thier SPL to the new WWE one that came from HTC.

Is it possible to use an HTC boot loader from the TyTnII on the Tilt ?

[kavi]

Could someone kindly upload the SSPL-KAIS.exe file onto 4shared or mediafire or something of that sort??
Much appreciated

Here you go
http://www.filedropper.com/sspl-kais

[hesbas]

So far so good.

Flashed the original HTC 6.1 SPL on my Vario III; it's working fine for now.

Think tha goes for the Tilt to:

Has anyone with a Tilt tried reverting thier SPL to the new WWE one that came from HTC.

Is it possible to use an HTC boot loader from the TyTnII on the Tilt ?


Wait what it does after waking up afetr a longer period.

[RPG0]

For those asking about performance:

It's the same as before. It appears they fixed the DirectX in TCPMP, since now it runs the same speed as GDI or Raw Framebuffer.

I would say it's very smooth, even if 3D drivers are not included.
Maybe you should read this about the 3D drivers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383317

Conclusion (i might be wrong here):
- They fixed the Direct Draw, but Qtv doesn't work anymore
- They fixed the touchscreen driver (now there's no drop in FPS when dragging the stylus on the screen) - I think it's the first time this happens on a HTC device (it was present in every HTC until a few months ago at least)
- Very stable
- Pretty fast imho
- GPS seems better

[Squuiid]

Yes, I can confirm for the Tilt too. I SuperCID'ed my Tilt, and changed the SPL to the HTC WM6.1 Official ROM and all is working beautifully now.
Before doing this I was getting horrible slowdowns and redraw issues.
Now it is perfect.

This is the package I used to SuperCID my tilt. It is on this forum, posted by AllTheWay.

Jockyw2001 HardSPL - SuperCID

Jockyw2001 is the author.

[kavi]

Here's the extracted SPL from RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship

Files Included:
SSPL_KAIS.exe
RUU.Signed.nbh
KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Download:HTC 6.1 SPL.rar
http://www.filedropper.com/htc61spl

Please use @ your own risk.

[stoobie-doo]

Yes, I can confirm for the Tilt too. I SuperCID'ed my Tilt, and changed the SPL to the HTC WM6.1 Official ROM and all is working beautifully now.
Before doing this I was getting horrible slowdowns and redraw issues.
Now it is perfect.

This is the package I used to SuperCID my tilt. It is on this forum, posted by AllTheWay.

Jockyw2001 HardSPL - SuperCID

Jockyw2001 is the author.
So, by changing the SPL, does that mean you are now locked into WWE ROMs from this point forward, or do the changes via HardSPL still stay into affect?

I also have a Tilt with HardSPL installed and unlocked via KaiserSimUnlocker, but have not used SuperCID before. If I go down this road instead of waiting for the Tilt update to come, I'd like to make sure I don't regret the move late by cutting off other options.

[rohanmaini]

So... can someone confirm this for me?

- Flash the stock SPL to fix the issue, can be done after a Custom ROM's been flashed (so the net result is a stock SPL with a Custom ROM)... correct?

- Alternatively change the PagePool to 16MB, keep using HardSPL. Correct? Can this be done on a loaded ROM, or does the NBH file have to be modified and reflashed?


BUMP......

[gfreek]

Use at your own risk :)

I loaded this... running official htc with 18pp - no problems so far.

http://rapidshare.com/files/117807517/HTC_SPL_3.28.rar.html

Thanks! sorted:) it seems instead of running cmd prompt for NBHextract all I had to do was right click on RUU_signed.nbh and select open with NBHextract.exe then exraction process happens very simple, not sure if it's a vista thing but it worked;)

now lets see if this fixes the issue!

[Infuruno]

Something else you could try, using kaisertweak ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349009 )
turn your touchflo sensitivity to normal from high work with my touchscreen issues though they were different, quicker to try than this. but maybe together ( if this works for you) = even faster device?

[piobeer]

put page pool back to normal and flashed original spl (3.29)
runs smooth so far....

Can you pls upload the NLD 3.29 SPL? I have trouble with the HTC Rom Tool it keeps telling me my device list can't be updated and I can't select anything in the tool.
Thx

[curtislanham]

I too have extracted and flashed the SPL from the official WWE release, and the freezes have disappeared.

I don't post a lot, and I do not know the technical ins and outs of the SPL, but here is a theory. While browsing one of the threads regarding the video acceleration drivers, someone mentioned that the SPL could have something to do with initiating video acceleration. If this official release was supposed to have any sort of graphics fix, maybe something exists in the SPL of the official release that doesn't exist in HardSPL, and that is the reason we are experiencing the freezes. Just a thought.

[lipa47]

Can you pls upload the NLD 3.29 SPL? I have trouble with the HTC Rom Tool it keeps telling me my device list can't be updated and I can't select anything in the tool.
Thx

Go to forum ftp (link in kaiser wiki) and there you'll find working version :D

[grusy]

can someone maybe upload german fixed version? thank you!

ROM or SPL?

[gfreek]

So far can confirm this seems to work, no freezes and it's blazingly fast:)

My only gripe now is flashing of other ROMS as I'm not sure if I had super CID in the first place, as I previously had jockw2001's HardSPL, I could of course re-flash HardSPL then flash jock2001's Super CID unlocker and then re-flash SPL 3.28 but it's late and long winded can't be arsed! is there another simpler way of super CID guys?

[gauntman]

I´ve made some simple test using TCMP 0.72 and two Kaisers, one with original WM6.0 (belonging to a friend of mine) and my own newly flashed official WM 6.1 (never been hardSPL, upgraded it straight from the box).

I used te same videoclip, 2,5 minutes from Deadliest Catch, reencoded to 320x240 pixels with a videobitrate of 512kbit DivX.

Used the benchmark function and played the entire clip.

The results are as follows:

WM6 Device:
214% using Raw framebuffer
125% using Direct Draw
180% using GDI

WM6.1 Device:
222% using Raw framebuffer
225% using Direct Draw
187% using GDI

so something must have been updated to the better.

No freezing happening either so far (24 hours)

[shafez]

I am very happy it worked for all of you, It porved that I was right when raised the idea in the following thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394369&page=23

Now it is just easy to get back anytime to hard SPL.

- Remove Sd card and Sim card.
- Copy Jumpspl 1.93.exe to you device memory
- Run Jumpspl 1.93.exe from your device.
- Flash Hard Spl v1.0.
- Done.

Now what we really need is to contact Olipro and Pof to create a new hard SPL based on the new WM6.1 SPL in order for us to flash any future cooked roms and not have the random feezes problem again.

Thanks and Regards

Sherif

[AGY]

Here's the extracted SPL from RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship

Files Included:
SSPL_KAIS.exe
RUU.Signed.nbh
KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Download:HTC 6.1 SPL.rar
http://www.filedropper.com/htc61spl

Please use @ your own risk.

Kavi;

Very helpfull file. to bad I saw it after follow all the idiot guide

[kavi]

Kavi;

Very helpfull file. to bad I saw it after follow all the idiot guide

Sorry to hear that but hope this helps people in the future.

I must say that the device runs super snap loving it. :)

[gfreek]

I am very happy it worked for all of you, It porved that I was right when raised the idea in the following thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394369&page=23

Now it is just easy to get back anytime to hard SPL.

- Remove Sd card and Sim card.
- Copy Jumpspl 1.93.exe to you device memory
- Run Jumpspl 1.93.exe from your device.
- Flash Hard Spl v1.0.
- Done.

Now what we really need is to contact Olipro and Pof to create a new hard SPL based on the new WM6.1 SPL in order for us to flash any future cooked roms and not have the random feezes problem again.

Thanks and Regards

Sherif

I agree come on pof, oli and jockw2001 please, we need it! makes our life so much easier for us compulsive flashers;)

[RPG0]

I am very happy it worked for all of you, It porved that I was right when raised the idea in the following thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394369&page=23

Now it is just easy to get back anytime to hard SPL.

- Remove Sd card and Sim card.
- Copy Jumpspl 1.93.exe to you device memory
- Run Jumpspl 1.93.exe from your device.
- Flash Hard Spl v1.0.
- Done.

Now what we really need is to contact Olipro and Pof to create a new hard SPL based on the new WM6.1 SPL in order for us to flash any future cooked roms and not have the random feezes problem again.

Thanks and Regards

Sherif

Thanks for your input, and thanks for the idea !
It was this brilliant guy that said it first, like i wrote in the first post.
Thanks again !

[vcespon]

Well, I did it too, modified th ROM to be 16 MB PP instead of dynamic, and flashed the new SPL too.
It really looks to be working better, like previous ROMs, no random freezes.
I can confirm too that the radio 1.65.16.25 works better with the new SPL

Now if someone could fix the problem with cleartype on landscape mode... Hope HTC receives feedback about this and issues a 4th patch for the Kaiser.

[RPG0]

Well, I did it too, modified th ROM to be 16 MB PP instead of dynamic, and flashed the new SPL too.
It really looks to be working better, like previous ROMs, no random freezes.

Now if someone could fix the problem with cleartype on landscape mode... Hope HTC receives feedback about this and issues a 4th patch for the Kaiser.

I wish people would stop asking about the cleartype in landscape. Trust me, it's not worth it. It's not a bug.
Google "cleartype" or "subpixel rendering" and read about it. It only works right in portrait (or whatever is the normal orientation of the screen). I might make a thread about this someday (if there isn't one already).

[merten3000]

Can you pls upload the NLD 3.29 SPL? I have trouble with the HTC Rom Tool it keeps telling me my device list can't be updated and I can't select anything in the tool.
Thx

here you go......

[piobeer]

Thanks Merten....

[nloudahi]

Can somebody upload the french SPL please ?

[msuk]

Here's the extracted SPL from RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship

Files Included:
SSPL_KAIS.exe
RUU.Signed.nbh
KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Download:HTC 6.1 SPL.rar
http://www.filedropper.com/htc61spl

Please use @ your own risk.


Hi I installed this over my HARDSPL but when I go into bootloader mode it says the following:

KAIS130 MFG
SPL1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8

Is this correct?

Thanks
Msuk

[grusy]

Hi I installed this over my HARDSPL but when I go into bootloader mode it says the following:

KAIS130 MFG
SPL1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8

Is this correct?

Thanks
Msuk

No, it's still the patched 6.0 SPL. Have you started SSPL-Kais.exe befor flashing?

[MooCan]

Hi,

Without HardSPL it is impossible to flash WWE rom on a French Device ? Am I OK ?
Shafez say (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2228985&postcount=228) that his Middleeast version become a WWE version.
Could it be possible to fash a SPL WWE version on it ?

Thanks for your reply

[shafez]

Hi,

Without HardSPL it is impossible to flash WWE rom on a French Device ? Am I OK ?
Shafez say (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2228985&postcount=228) that his Middleeast version become a WWE version.
Could it be possible to fash a SPL WWE version on it ?

Thanks for your reply

The Rom Upgrad Utility identify the version of the device through the SPL.

So if you have WWE Spl you can use the WWE Rom only.

Accordengly by changing the SPL version you can Flash different Roms.

Now what you need to do is to flash you favorite language SPL to you phone then use the official Upgrade of the related SPL and it should flash ok without hard SPL

Do you have hard SPL on your phone ?

Regards

[baallrog]

Hi,

I'm searching for FREnch HardSPL.

I try to make my but i'm not able because i'm not friend with the htc rom tool application.


Thank in advace !!!

[nloudahi]

I have make all the step of idiot guide and know i have on hard reset this information :

KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8

Can you please confirme thas is ok for me. Before this a have

KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0 OliPof
CPLD-8

Thank's

[austinsnyc]

Not to be a Party Pooper but I don't see how this would have any effect apon the the performance of the rom. the SPL is loaded before the OS is loaded and thats pretty much about it the OS and its .dll's take over from there. I would like to hear what Oli, Pof, Jocky, comnex has to say about this i have a feeling its a huge placebo affect hopefully I am wrong though :)

[bengalih]

Not to be a Party Pooper but I don't see how this would have any effect apon the the performance of the rom. the SPL is loaded before the OS is loaded and thats pretty much about it the OS and its .dll's take over from there. I would like to hear what Oli, Pof, Jocky, comnex has to say about this i have a feeling its a huge placebo affect hopefully I am wrong though :)

I really tend to agree with this sentiment. Of course I too am waiting for other's with the necessary knowledge to comment.

I am sure if this is really an issue we will be seeing updated hacked SPLs soon. Since, at the very least this would mean that the new ROM could not be used without issues on Tilt devices (since a Tilt's stock SPL will not allow the loading of an official HTC ROM).

I have been running the new ROM for about 2 days on my Tilt...light usage. I will admit I'm not overly impressed, but I don't seem to have any issues with lock-ups freezes, etc. I do think the touch screen performance is a bit off, but I think alot of the newer ROMs are like this. I think I was either spoiled by one of Dutty's touch hybrids, or when i was running TouchSL, which i haven't yet put back on my phone.

[chunkwok]

I had a stupid question on this, my kaiser is a CHT version, I hardSPL long time ago and played with different ROMs, the last one i'm using is L26's DiaV2. I then had the WWE SPL flashed, at this moment my phone should be looks like a shipped WWE phone right? is it able to flash any WWE custom roms without HardSPL?

[xboomer55]

I really tend to agree with this sentiment. Of course I too am waiting for other's with the necessary knowledge to comment.


I am waiting with interest as well. I DID extract and load the HTC SPL (the hard way) and learned a few things and collected some ROM tools along the way. I have not had dead buttons or screen taps since but it is still too early to tell. Maybe it was the hard reset...who knows.

I had the problem shortly after the intial flash and then a few episodes later the same day. It seemed to have gone away for a day but was back again today after a soft reset.

The problem seems to re-surface after a soft reset. It appears that hard/soft buttons pushes or screen taps are missed by the device. Repeating the taps or hard button use eventually gets through after several attempts. This would even happen when the device was essentially idle with no apps running and no load on the processor.

I am using a Tilt. It did have HardSPL and SuperCID treatment before flashing the HTC ROM and later the extracted HTC SPL. After flashing the HTC SPL, I did a hard reset and then restored a backup. Aside from some cleanup after the backup, all is OK.

I have tried at least four cooked 6.1 ROMS and the two AT&T 6.1 test ROMS. The HTC 6.1 is as good as any (IMHO) for my use. I did not adjust the pagepool and am using "advised Kaiser tweak cache settings. If it holds, I plan to keep it for a while.

[kavi]

Here's what I have encountered:

Before HTC SPL (HARD-SPL)

1. Start > Settings would freeze for about 5 secs
2. Mail button slow response
3. Switching between SMS/MAIL slow response @ times
4. Screen response sluggish @ times
5. Tomtom GPS fix fast but program navigation has about a 0.5 sec deley in other words not real time (not navigation/map-redraw).

After HTC SPL

None of the above and everything is snappy and I am happy.

[ehsanuetian]

Here's what I have encountered:

Before HTC SPL (HARD-SPL)

1. Start > Settings would freeze for about 5 secs
2. Mail button slow response
3. Switching between SMS/MAIL slow response @ times
4. Screen response sluggish @ times
5. Tomtom GPS fix fast but program navigation has about a 0.5 sec deley in other words not real time (not navigation/map-redraw).

After HTC SPL

None of the above and everything is snappy and I am happy.

I am confirming too...:) thanks everybody

[faifai9394]

I have make all the step of idiot guide and know i have on hard reset this information :

KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8

Can you please confirme thas is ok for me. Before this a have

KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0 OliPof
CPLD-8

Thank's

Man I have the same result as
KAIS 130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8

I have been using the WWE, so once the bootloader is done loading everything should work right away, or should I reflash again my rom??

[RPG0]

Man I have the same result as
KAIS 130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8

I have been using the WWE, so once the bootloader is done loading everything should work right away, or should I reflash again my rom??
I flashed the official SPL and only hard resetted, no reflashing

edit: maybe there's no need to hard reset, but that's what i did

[rohanmaini]

I had a stupid question on this, my kaiser is a CHT version, I hardSPL long time ago and played with different ROMs, the last one i'm using is L26's DiaV2. I then had the WWE SPL flashed, at this moment my phone should be looks like a shipped WWE phone right? is it able to flash any WWE custom roms without HardSPL?


So what you are saying that you flashed the HTC official SPL while you were still on the L26's DiaV2 Rom

is that correct? If so do you see any increase in performance regarding random freezing??

[ra303]

I too can say my freezes went away. Thanx all for working on this and providing a solution. cheers.

[MooCan]

The Rom Upgrad Utility identify the version of the device through the SPL.

So if you have WWE Spl you can use the WWE Rom only.

Accordengly by changing the SPL version you can Flash different Roms.

Now what you need to do is to flash you favorite language SPL to you phone then use the official Upgrade of the related SPL and it should flash ok without hard SPL

Do you have hard SPL on your phone ?

Regards

Hi,

Thanks for your answer.
It's a French HTC branded Kaiser with actually HardSPL v1 (thanks to Pof) for CID Bypass or unlock with official HTC WWE WM 6.1 ROM.

So I will try the "Idiot Guide" with WWE SPL.
So In case of Warranty return is it possible to flash the original French SPL with the same guide ?

Moo

[shafez]

Typing Error

[shafez]

Hi,

Thanks for your answer.
It's a French HTC branded Kaiser with actually HardSPL v1 (thanks to Pof) for CID Bypass or unlock with official HTC WWE WM 6.1 ROM.

So I will try the "Idiot Guide" with WWE SPL.
So In case of Warranty return is it possible to flash the original French SPL with the same guide ?

Moo

yes it is possible, Just follow the "Idiot Guide" to get back to your original factory shipped SPL.


Regards

[bladecgn]

Could someone please upload or link a German SPL file (for 6.1 ROM).

Would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much in advance!

[grusy]

Could someone please upload or link a German SPL file (for 6.1 ROM).

Would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much in advance!

http://rapidshare.com/files/117965699/SPL-3.28.407.0-GER.zip.html

[Boinng]

Just to say, this is a great thread! I followed the instructions (cheating slightly by using the files posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2236890&postcount=73) and my phone is now far more responsive than it's ever been, with none of the freezes and lost button presses that plagued this new 6.1 Rom, and even the old 6.0 Rom to some extent.

Obviously the SPL does more than was previously understood on this forum, and there are some significant changes in this new 3.28 SPL that perhaps need to be ported over to a new HardSPL? I'm no expert and would have no idea how to do that, but good luck to whoever does. It may be that the performance of all the roms, including cooked versions, could be improved with an updated SPL like this?

Kudos to whoever picked up on this originally, anyway - this is a major find for any HardSPL user, which is probably the majority of people on XDA! I have to say, with this new HTC Rom running on the new HTC SPL, I really am seeing a big improvement in the Kaiser's general performance. I've not tested video yet and I'm not expecting any miracles there, and of course the landscape->portrait switch will never be instant, but in all other respects it's pretty snappy and responsive.

[dmxl]

I also have no more freezes since I got rid of Hard SPL.

So to sum things up: Hard SPL f*cks up the phone :) Funny thing to see a lot of people on XDA shouting and blaming HTC for releasing a new crappy 6.1 ROM...

[RPG0]

I also have no more freezes since I got rid of Hard SPL.

So to sum things up: Hard SPL f*cks up the phone :) Funny thing to see a lot of people on XDA shouting and blaming HTC for releasing a new crappy 6.1 ROM...
First of all, Hard SPL is great, it's just not updated.
Second, the new 6.1 ROM is crappy, no performance gain, no issues solved, just an update to wm 6.1.

[vcespon]

For me it's just funny how I ended completing the circle. I'm back with a phone with the official SPL and official ROM, and no strange behaviours. Less storage space than with WM 6.0 ROM, but I can cope with that.

Meanwhile people using cooked ROMs have problems with video not recording well, missing G icon, missing disconnect icon, missing apps that came standard with the official ROM, having to modify the registry to make things that worked work again..

Maybe I check back these forums in a few weeks, but for the moment I got tired of beta-testing ROMs that have no real improvements over official ones. I can enable caches with Kaisertweak and install utilities myself.

List of favourites:
Original WM 6.0 + 1.27.12.17 Radio
Official 3.02 + 1.58.26.20 Radio
Official 3.29 + 1.65.16.25 Radio

[captainsensible2002]

For me it's just funny how I ended completing the circle. I'm back with a phone with the official SPL and official ROM, and no strange behaviours. Less storage space than with WM 6.0 ROM, but I can cope with that.

Meanwhile people using cooked ROMs have problems with video not recording well, missing G icon, missing disconnect icon, missing apps that came standard with the official ROM, having to modify the registry to make things that worked work again..

Maybe I check back these forums in a few weeks, but for the moment I got tired of beta-testing ROMs that have no real improvements over official ones. I can enable caches with Kaisertweak and install utilities myself.

List of favourites:
Original WM 6.0 + 1.27.12.17 Radio
Official 3.02 + 1.58.26.20 Radio
Official 3.29 + 1.65.16.25 Radio

What he said :)

[Boinng]

HardSPL is great, and without it and much of the other work of the devs on this forum, I'd still be stuck on the crappy Vodafone Rom my "V1615" came with. Instead I got to use the much better HTC Rom for the last six months, and tweak it just how I liked. I also got to update to the new 6.1 Rom, which again wouldn't have been possible in the first place without Hard SPL.

Nevertheless, it does need updating, and I'm guessing there are other things the Kaiser Chefs can learn from this latest release. There is much to like about this new rom in my opinion, with the new SPL installed it's smoother and more responsive than the either the original or cooked roms I've tried. TBH, I'm sticking with it - unless some genuine advances are made in the driver department.

[Billun]

I have to admit that i didn't believe this was the cause of the problems so i had to try it out.

When i installed the stock swedish 6.1 rom from the beginning i could't use it, i hung all the time and the touchscreen was dead from time to time.

So i gave it another try today and installed htc spl after the flash.

Imagine my surprise when my kaiser worked all of a sudden.
No screen lockups in all day.

And after a little tweaking the speed is actually ok.

[Dobi]

Hi All,

Can somebody upload French SPL compatible with Official HTC 6.1 ROM?

I've already installed HardSPL (on a French Tytn II) and I've the HTC 6.1 Official French Rom...

The required steps are:
1. Install Original FR SPL
2. Reinstall HTC 6.1

That's all??

Thx..

[MickyMax]

Hi All,

Can somebody upload French SPL compatible with Official HTC 6.1 ROM?

I've already installed HardSPL (on a French Tytn II) and I've the HTC 6.1 Official French Rom...

The required steps are:
1. Install Original FR SPL
2. Reinstall HTC 6.1

That's all??

Thx..

Yeah, that's all... :)
You can make a Hard-reset if you want but it's not required... :)

[undac]

I also used this "trick" on the latest swedish 6.1-update. Works fine now but I feel as if the sensitivity of the touch screen is somewhat lowered now (not that I can see how the SPL could do that but on the other hand I didn't think the SPL could cause the touch screen lockups to begin with :))

[tiberiusva1]

Has anyone else tried just removing 1 tier secruity option on the 6.1 install? I used the Microsoft security configuration tool from the Power tools MSDN download to turn off security and add all the development certs and now my device seem to behave better. No more lockups. I have only been using it a short time since the change, but so far so good. My thoughts:

1)Maybe there is something running on the device with developer certificate signature. Seems unlikely.
2)Maybe doing the cert check for each application startup was causing the slowness.

Note: Previously I had hard spl installed and used several different black and duffy roms. I had the dropped screen tap and slow response issue described by many.


I will report back later in the day if the issue still has not reappeared since this seems like a much more desirable fix then having to flash the ROM again multiple times.

[Boinng]

I will report back later in the day if the issue still has not reappeared since this seems like a much more desirable fix then having to flash the ROM again multiple times.

There really is no "flashing the ROM multiple times" needed. If you have the new 6.1 update installed already, but are experiencing freezes because you're also using HardSPL, all you need to do is use the files from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2236890&postcount=73 to flash the new SPL only. No reset needed, no loss of data, no multiple flashes, just a new SPL and no more probs.

[Trombone69]

There really is no "flashing the ROM multiple times" needed. If you have the new 6.1 update installed already, but are experiencing freezes because you're also using HardSPL, all you need to do is use the files from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2236890&postcount=73 to flash the new SPL only. No reset needed, no loss of data, no multiple flashes, just a new SPL and no more probs.

Anyone with any tips on getting this to work? I have an MDA Vario III which I used HardSPL on, and then the new HTC WWE 6.1 Rom. I have the device lockup issue so now want to put the original SPL on. I get an error saying that my PDA can not be found on XP and ActiveSync 4.5...although the same computer was used for the HardSPL and ROM Upgrade...

Thanks,

TB

[mightyox]

Anyone with any tips on getting this to work? I have an MDA Vario III which I used HardSPL on, and then the new HTC WWE 6.1 Rom. I have the device lockup issue so now want to put the original SPL on. I get an error saying that my PDA can not be found on XP and ActiveSync 4.5...although the same computer was used for the HardSPL and ROM Upgrade...

Thanks,

TB

Just got it to work after a few attempts. Here is what I did:
1. Connect to ActiveSync
2. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser
3. Wait for ActiveSync to disconnect
4. Unplug Kaiser
5. Wait a few seconds and then plug Kaiser
6. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

[Trombone69]

Just got it to work after a few attempts. Here is what I did:
1. Connect to ActiveSync
2. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser
3. Wait for ActiveSync to disconnect
4. Unplug Kaiser
5. Wait a few seconds and then plug Kaiser
6. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Beautiful! Thanks mate...

TB

[nelshh]

Just got it to work after a few attempts. Here is what I did:
1. Connect to ActiveSync
2. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser
3. Wait for ActiveSync to disconnect
4. Unplug Kaiser
5. Wait a few seconds and then plug Kaiser
6. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Damnit, can't get that to work..I get to the point where the update should start, but it just says 0% for a minute or so, and then I get the connection error message.

I run Vista, and JumpSPL instead of SSPL-KAIS.exe (due to the white screen problem)

[Dobi]

Yeah, that's all... :)
You can make a Hard-reset if you want but it's not required... :)

But I need this French SPL :( Can you upload it?

[MooCan]

But I need this French SPL :( Can you upload it?

Here it is.
French SPL extracted from Official French WM 6.1 HTC ROM.

[nloudahi]

Damnit, can't get that to work..I get to the point where the update should start, but it just says 0% for a minute or so, and then I get the connection error message.

I run Vista, and JumpSPL instead of SSPL-KAIS.exe (due to the white screen problem)

Yes, yesterday, i have the same probleme and the solution is to unplug the usb but to plug it in another usb port, wait vista to connect and then run kaiserRUU.

[swolfman]

Hi
I would like to verify my understanding after performing the above recommendations on my Kiaser:
1. Using the latest ROM by HTC , or alternatively the latest cooked - L26Kaiser_Diamond_Version_3 ROM , cause the above freezes of video and screen taps

2. In order to avoid it, we should flash the official Kiaser SPL and use the latest ROM after that.

3. If i want to flasjh a new cooked ROM, i need to flash hard SPL , flash the new ROM and flash again the official Kiaser SPL in order to avoid those issues

I would appreciate any feedback to verify my understanding , currenly i did the above steps and use the latest L26Kaiser_Diamond_Version_3 ROM - will verify if any problem left and will update later

thanks

[sharkonholiday]

please I need wm6.1 official italian SPL. Can anyone upload it?
thanks in advance

[Billun]

Hi
I would like to verify my understanding after performing the above recommendations on my Kiaser:
1. Using the latest ROM by HTC , or alternatively the latest cooked - L26Kaiser_Diamond_Version_3 ROM , cause the above freezes of video and screen taps

2. In order to avoid it, we should flash the official Kiaser SPL and use the latest ROM after that.

3. If i want to flasjh a new cooked ROM, i need to flash hard SPL , flash the new ROM and flash again the official Kiaser SPL in order to avoid those issues

I would appreciate any feedback to verify my understanding , currenly i did the above steps and use the latest L26Kaiser_Diamond_Version_3 ROM - will verify if any problem left and will update later

thanks

1. I only had the screen lockup problems with the latest leaked and the official 6.1 rom.
I didn't experience these problem when i tried L26Kaiser_Diamond_Version_3 ROM (due to its not a kaiser rom, but a diamond rom?)

2. I you feel like it.

3. You have to flash hard spl before you flash a cooked rom.
You do not need to flash official kaiser SPL after that.

[kuvik]

I want to use cooked WM6.1 ROM (based on official HTC ROM) + HardSPL. Will it be suffered from freezing? :confused:

[Billun]

I want to use cooked WM6.1 ROM (based on official HTC ROM) + HardSPL. Will it be suffered from freezing? :confused:

I don't know, not all people experience these screen lockups.
If you are lucky you won't have these problems.

[chunkwok]

So what you are saying that you flashed the HTC official SPL while you were still on the L26's DiaV2 Rom

is that correct? If so do you see any increase in performance regarding random freezing??


Today is a great day, i have DiaV2 while i'm flashed HTC WWE SPL back, but immediately i found V3 is there, i tried directly to flash to V3 while still on the WWE SPL, but it just stop on 0%, i hardSPL again, and flashed V3 without problem, and then flash WWE SPL. didn't actually seen increase in performance from HardSPL -> WWE SPL, but really the freezing is not there anymore...

[pcwizzul]

I follwed the guide in the other post and built an SPL for the italian rom.
But when I start the SSPL-KAIS.exe and then launch the KaiserCustomRUU.exe
it says it can't connect.
If I start the device in bootloader (power on + camera buttons) KaiserCustomRUU.exe see the device.
Should I try JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe instead?
Please help me so that I can test the spl I made and if it works I can share it here.
Thanks!
PS: I'm experiencing often speed slowdowns with this rom...hope the SPL helps

[austinsnyc]

SO EVERYONE KNOWS HAVING HARDSPL INSTALLED BEFORE YOU FLASHG ANY ROM IS A MUST!!!!.....

I have a feeling a bunch of n00bs are going to be flashing and bricking there kaisers after reading this thread by either not flashing HardSPL or forgetting they went back to OEMSPL and flashing a cooked rom. Until this is proven by someone please everyone just be careful!!! Just to be safe make sure you have HardSPL installed before flashing any ROM period. I have a feeling that what everyone is seeing is just a performance gain in the head... If this is true and HardSPL is slowing down are phones I will be the first to say sorry and I was wrong but I think if this was causing an issue Jocky, Pof, Oli, Comnex would have known about this :) Happy Flashing

[layer1]

I can concur the freezing has stopped. I have Diamond v3 installed and was experiencing the pausing effect. I applied the SPL for wm 6.1 and the pausing effect has vanished.





Today is a great day, i have DiaV2 while i'm flashed HTC WWE SPL back, but immediately i found V3 is there, i tried directly to flash to V3 while still on the WWE SPL, but it just stop on 0%, i hardSPL again, and flashed V3 without problem, and then flash WWE SPL. didn't actually seen increase in performance from HardSPL -> WWE SPL, but really the freezing is not there anymore...

[Billun]

SO EVERYONE KNOWS HAVING HARDSPL INSTALLED BEFORE YOU FLASHG ANY ROM IS A MUST!!!!.....

I have a feeling a bunch of n00bs are going to be flashing and bricking there kaisers after reading this thread by either not flashing HardSPL or forgetting they went back to OEMSPL and flashing a cooked rom. Until this is proven by someone please everyone just be careful!!! Just to be safe make sure you have HardSPL installed before flashing any ROM period. I have a feeling that what everyone is seeing is just a performance gain in the head... If this is true and HardSPL is slowing down are phones I will be the first to say sorry and I was wrong but I think if this was causing an issue Jocky, Pof, Oli, Comnex would have known about this :) Happy Flashing

Well said.
I can't see how the spl could cause this behaviour but i tried to reflash the new stock and went back to hct spl trying to prove that it wouldn't work.
The problem is that the freezing actually stopped.

BUT i did not experience and sigificant freezing in the new cooked roms with hardspl installed.
Maybe HTC did some changes in the newer releases so we had to go back to their SPL?

[neo9596]

It's incredible!!!!!!!! It works!!!!!!!, thanks a lot.
Here you have the spanish nbl.
See you.

http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=H50N25QB

[Isaygarcia]

Post WWE SPL. :)


(i use more english than spanish and im in mexico xDU.. thats weird..)

[stoobie-doo]

SO EVERYONE KNOWS HAVING HARDSPL INSTALLED BEFORE YOU FLASHG ANY ROM IS A MUST!!!!.....

I have a feeling a bunch of n00bs are going to be flashing and bricking there kaisers after reading this thread by either not flashing HardSPL or forgetting they went back to OEMSPL and flashing a cooked rom. Until this is proven by someone please everyone just be careful!!! Just to be safe make sure you have HardSPL installed before flashing any ROM period. I have a feeling that what everyone is seeing is just a performance gain in the head... If this is true and HardSPL is slowing down are phones I will be the first to say sorry and I was wrong but I think if this was causing an issue Jocky, Pof, Oli, Comnex would have known about this :) Happy Flashing

So, is the moral (for n00bs like me) - if you want to try the HTC stock ROMs
1. Make sure HardSPL is installed
2. Install 6.1 stock ROM
3. Use SSPL-KAIS.exe to go to install appropriate 6.1 stock SPL
4. Cross your fingers

If you want to then try anything else; a cooked ROM, or a branded 6.1 ROM once those come out; then re-flash HardSPL; install new ROM; and if branded again install appropriate stock SPL

I'd sure like to have the sequence right before I take my Tilt from stock AT&T+HardSPL to WWE 6.1

[vcespon]

One note more:

With the stock WM 6.1 SPL, the only thing you can flash is the official ROM. Not even the official ROM with the pagepool changed.
To flash anything else you need to hardSPL again.

[eyeless]

With just the HARD SPL i had a lot of freezes and some lockups.

In everything and blackberry connect took forever to check emails.


I have flashed back to the original SPL and this is what i noticed (using the Enlgish WWE 6.1 from HTC on a TILT)

My blackberry connect is actually faster! Then on 6.0 it doesnt take so long to load emails.
No Freezes so far...except with PCM Keyboard.
Windows are faster and smoother, especially when browsing with file explorer.
GPS just fine.
CorePlayer - no QTV =( but it wasnt working before the flash either.

Going between landscape and regular view is painfully slow, but not so sloppy. So far everything i use on mine is working but coreplayer =(

Over all it seems alot faster and stable to me. Not perfect but better, then the last official AT&T 6.0 (with no bloatware).

[baallrog]

Did you perform an hardreset after flashing the original hardspl ?

[pcwizzul]

Ok I did it. Just had to unplug and replug the usb cable on the phone.
Here is the italian SPL file for all of you who might need it.

[curtislanham]

The WWE SPL was provided on post #73, or just go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2236890&postcount=73

Post WWE SPL. :)


(i use more english than spanish and im in mexico xDU.. thats weird..)

[MooCan]

Today is a great day, i have DiaV2 while i'm flashed HTC WWE SPL back, but immediately i found V3 is there, i tried directly to flash to V3 while still on the WWE SPL, but it just stop on 0%, i hardSPL again, and flashed V3 without problem, and then flash WWE SPL. didn't actually seen increase in performance from HardSPL -> WWE SPL, but really the freezing is not there anymore...

So if I understand well ...

1- Device is HardSPL enabled
2- Flash a Cooked ROM
3- Flash Official WWE SPL Only

and device still start ?
So CID Check is only made at flash ... not at startup (noob revelation)

[xwaiz]

One note more:

With the stock WM 6.1 SPL, the only thing you can flash is the official ROM. Not even the official ROM with the pagepool changed.
To flash anything else you need to hardSPL again.


with all these confirmations from different people, i flashed to htc stock spl last night. I did not reflash the stock wwe rom that is already changed to 16MB pagepool, nor hard reset after the spl change.

so, i now have HTC spl and 16MB pagepool on stock wwe rom.

i dont see noticeable improvement, but, do feel a bit better (probably in mind).

[xboomer55]

I follwed the guide in the other post and built an SPL for the italian rom.
But when I start the SSPL-KAIS.exe and then launch the KaiserCustomRUU.exe
it says it can't connect.
If I start the device in bootloader (power on + camera buttons) KaiserCustomRUU.exe see the device.
Should I try JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe instead?
Please help me so that I can test the spl I made and if it works I can share it here.
Thanks!
PS: I'm experiencing often speed slowdowns with this rom...hope the SPL helps

See this...

Just got it to work after a few attempts. Here is what I did:
1. Connect to ActiveSync
2. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser
3. Wait for ActiveSync to disconnect
4. Unplug Kaiser
5. Wait a few seconds and then plug Kaiser
6. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

If I recall, steps 3, 4, 5 are not detailed in the guide. Once I read to unplug and then re-plug the usb connection in a similar post, I no longer got the connection error msg and was able to proceed and complete step 6.

[NotATreoFan]

So if I understand well ...

1- Device is HardSPL enabled
2- Flash a Cooked ROM
3- Flash Official WWE SPL Only

and device still start ?
So CID Check is only made at flash ... not at startup (noob revelation)

I myself am getting throughly confused with this thread (damn root canal and Vicodin). But if I understood everything correctly, then it would go something like this:

1 - Currently running a cooked WM 6.1 ROM (HardSPL installed)
2 - Flash the new HTC SPL ripped from the new ROMs
3 - Done

So now my questions are: In order to take advantage of this new SPL, do I have to flash to one of the newer cooked ROMs (the ones that work with the latest radios [ie not Niki compatible])? Or can I keep my current Dutty's Apr 09 ROM?

[bengalih]

I myself am getting throughly confused with this thread (damn root canal and Vicodin). But if I understood everything correctly, then it would go something like this:

1 - Currently running a cooked WM 6.1 ROM (HardSPL installed)
2 - Flash the new HTC SPL ripped from the new ROMs
3 - Done

So now my questions are: In order to take advantage of this new SPL, do I have to flash to one of the newer cooked ROMs (the ones that work with the latest radios [ie not Niki compatible])? Or can I keep my current Dutty's Apr 09 ROM?

You should only run the HTC SPL if you want to run the official HTC 6.1 ROM (and you believe the fact that indeed this helps the reported issues).

You won't be able to flash any cooked ROMs without HardSPL being put back on.

[stoobie-doo]

Hmm... gotta be n00b problem, but after flashing 6.1 WWE (which went fine); I get a 260 error when I try to install the new HTC SPL; I am pretty certain the issue is that I can not establish a USB connection to the computer when in bootloader; what I don't know is why
Screen is showing
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.JumpSPL
CPLD-8
It's a Tilt that has HardSPL on it; I've tried ActiveSync with USB connections allowed and disallowed
SD card is removed

Soft reset brings me back just fine, but I am assuming that I will want to get that darn 6.1 SPL onto the phone. How do I get my laptop to see my phone when it is in bootloader?

Not sure what fixed it, but one hard reset later; a new connection, and some patience, and it seems to have worked. Hopefully that fixed the lags everyone else has seen. Now to restore everything...

[ionutz6]

so what if we are on a cooked rom, obviously with hard-spl and want to get rid of the damn freezes and still stick to a cooked rom?
just install original HTC SPL and thats it? coz otherwise i dont see any logic, i would not be able to install a cooked rom unless i reinstall hard-spl,w hich leeds to the same problem.
please correct me!

[bengalih]

so what if we are on a cooked rom, obviously with hard-spl and want to get rid of the damn freezes and still stick to a cooked rom?
just install original HTC SPL and thats it? coz otherwise i dont see any logic, i would not be able to install a cooked rom unless i reinstall hard-spl,w hich leeds to the same problem.
please correct me!

This thread is for the OFFICIAL 6.1 release.... all issues about "freezing" which some claim to experience are dealing with the OFFICIAL 6.1 ROM.

If you want to run the OFFICIAL 6.1 then flash the HTC SPL
If you want to run a cooked ROM then flash HardSPL

If you are running a cooked ROM and experiencing freezing issues, this is not the thread for you, nor is the solution changing your SPL. Go to the ROM's thread and post there for assistance.

[cymagnus]

You should only run the HTC SPL if you want to run the official HTC 6.1 ROM (and you believe the fact that indeed this helps the reported issues).

You won't be able to flash any cooked ROMs without HardSPL being put back on.

Checkout post#154.

In fact, can :
1. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser first without connecting to PC
2. After thwe bootloader screen comes up, wait a few seconds, connect the Kaiser to PC
3. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

[lewcamino]

This is for anyone still confused... kinda.

I am running L26 v3 (Cooked ROM, one of the best 6.1 out there...till tomorrow :P)

I ran SSPL on my Tilt (and I have a Tilt btw)

I then unplugged my device, and then plugged it back in.

I then ran KaiserCustomRUU.exe with RUU.Signed.nbh in the same folder (there is a RAR near the beginning of this thread with the three files you need).

I went through the prompts just like if I were flashing a ROM

This took about 5 seconds (SPL is very small compared to a full ROM)

My device then rebooted.

This does NOT hard reset your device but you know, backup early and often and stuff.

I am running the KAIS SPL (official) with the cooked ROM

When I want to flash L26 v4 (tomorrow...) I will simply put HARDSPL back (it takes 30 seconds people...)

"Do I think it is better?" Yes, there does appear to be improvement. Completely unquantifiable, but it is better. (L26 FTW as well!)

[lewcamino]

Replace every "tomorrow" in my previous post with "tonight"... Leo is a machine.

I wanted to add that this is not suppose to boost speed. It is meant to reduce the frequent "freezing" some have been having.

I am going to rock KAIS SPL for a few days (if Leo shuts down the ROM factory) and then see where I am at with it.

[baallrog]

Hi guys,


I have flash my hardspl with the htc spl.

There is an improvement in the freeze issue BUT I still have freeze ...


I have discover that when I have freeze my signal strenght is low ...
I was in a place where my signal strength is very good with WM6.0 ...
So I decided to stop gsm working with the comm manager.

Great, there are no freeze anymore !!


So I don't think this is an issue due to the hardspl but to the radio.
Especially to the gsm part of the radio !

The radio part must be buggy ...


Do the test before flashing hardspl. During a period of freeze, stop gsm with comm manager and see if the freeze is still here.

[Boinng]

SO EVERYONE KNOWS HAVING HARDSPL INSTALLED BEFORE YOU FLASHG ANY ROM IS A MUST!!!!.....

I have a feeling a bunch of n00bs are going to be flashing and bricking there kaisers after reading this thread by either not flashing HardSPL or forgetting they went back to OEMSPL and flashing a cooked rom. Until this is proven by someone please everyone just be careful!!! Just to be safe make sure you have HardSPL installed before flashing any ROM period. I have a feeling that what everyone is seeing is just a performance gain in the head... If this is true and HardSPL is slowing down are phones I will be the first to say sorry and I was wrong but I think if this was causing an issue Jocky, Pof, Oli, Comnex would have known about this :) Happy Flashing

You're right to point out that everyone needs to understand the difference between the stock SPL and Hard SPL, and that you do need Hard SPL before you try flashing anything other than the vanilla, stock ROM.

HOWEVER...

Nobody is imagining this fix! This really isn't in anyone's head, the issue with the new HTC Rom and Hard SPL is very real, and should be examined by the devs here, not ignored. I can place hand on heart and swear to you, since replacing Hard SPL with the new extracted 3.28 SPL, my device is actually working far better than it ever has - I suffered frequent "freezing" before making this change, and that freezing is now COMPLETELY gone for the past day since flashing the SPL yesterday morning. It's a very noticeable and entirely quantifiable improvement in stability and responsiveness.

It's not just an improvement on the performance of the 6.1 Rom running under Hard SPL either, I had freezing issues to a lesser extent on the old 6.0 HTC Rom, also running under Hard SPL, and in retrospect I do wonder now if there has always been an issue with Hard SPL. Is it possible that the original HTC SPL, upon which Hard SPL was based, had some problem from day one that the new SPL has cured? I'm just theorising here. Either way, I think this proves that the relationship between SPL and ROM is a little more complicated than anyone here imagined before.

[augusrad]

I also have no more freezes since I got rid of Hard SPL people on XDA blaming HTC for releasing a new crappy 6.1 ROM it is not true - works fine with HTC SPL, let's wait for new HardSPL WM 6.1 roms ... before this time I have no problem to load HardSPL to my device and upload any other rom.

R.

[Bumfluv]

:o

So what if I bought the Kaiser with the official 6.0 Rom (NLD). I just installed the official HTC 6.1 Rom (NLD) and suffer from these lags and non-responsive touches on the screen.

What should I do then ? I've never installed HARDSPL and never installed HTC SPL. Do I need to install one of these SPL's and do that ActiveSync trick to get rid of my lags and so ?

Please advise this Noob guy ...

Regards

[amitbsh]

Do I need to install again ROM 6.1 and all the other programs after flashing the original SPL?

[Boinng]

Do I need to install again ROM 6.1 and all the other programs after flashing the original SPL?

No - if you've already installed 6.1, you can leave that and everything else intact. It'll just start working better after you flash the new SPL.

[Boinng]

:o

So what if I bought the Kaiser with the official 6.0 Rom (NLD). I just installed the official HTC 6.1 Rom (NLD) and suffer from these lags and non-responsive touches on the screen.

What should I do then ? I've never installed HARDSPL and never installed HTC SPL. Do I need to install one of these SPL's and do that ActiveSync trick to get rid of my lags and so ?

Please advise this Noob guy ...

I don't know, is the short answer - I would have thought that an original HTC ROM with an original HTC SPL should have updated fine to the new ROM, complete with new SPL.

It's possible that the "freezes" you're experiencing could just be the normal background processes bedding down. If they're frequent and continue on into the second day of use, I'd say there was some other (possibly SPL related) problem.

Here's a test - can you soft-reset your device while holding down the Standby and Camera buttons? Don't worry, this won't do anything bad, it will just display your bootloader (SPL) information. Make a note of what it says and post it here? I think it should mention "3.28" if you have the new SPL.

[neil@domino.org]

Been running since Saturday morning and no freezes. I just flashed the WWE ship rom as was so not sure if its overwritten the HardSPL, I don't think so.

For me the 6.1 rom is much more reliable than the 6.0, network connectivity works well and the device feels more stable. I was running the Tmobile UK rom before.

[SecureGSM]

@bumfluv

can you do the following test for me please:

got to settings-->phone--> phone settings--> band:

switch to "GSM" option (default is "AUTO")

by doing this you will force you phone into 2G ONLY mode for now. no 3G.

run your phone in this mode for a while. see if you still have any issues with "freezing" in this mode. Please let me know so I can assist you further.

:EDIT:

can i ask forum members that are experiencing "freeze" issue to do the following:

1. see if forcing phone into 2G ONLY mode fixes this issue for you.
2. please remove your SIM card from the handset. see if this fixes the issue for you.

please report back to me if successfull and what option you have used.

[Bumfluv]

Sorry, but I do not see any SPL number whatsoever ... mayby pressing these buttons in another order or so ?

It first says Smart Mobility, then 3 red coloured line with numbers appear and then I see the green Mobile 6.1 screen. After this the phone starts up...

[rohanmaini]

Sorry, but I do not see any SPL number whatsoever ... mayby pressing these buttons in another order or so ?

It first says Smart Mobility, then 3 red coloured line with numbers appear and then I see the green Mobile 6.1 screen. After this the phone starts up...


What are the numbers?

But this shall not get you the SPL info.

You need to start in Boot loader mobe.

You have to hold the camera & power buttons, while you press the soft reset..

Keep Holding the camera & Power buttons till you com to a tri-coloured srceen with either serial or USB written at the bottom. there shall be some numbers on this screen as well you need to find thise numbers.

[Boinng]

Sorry, but I do not see any SPL number whatsoever ... mayby pressing these buttons in another order or so ?

It first says Smart Mobility, then 3 red coloured line with numbers appear and then I see the green Mobile 6.1 screen. After this the phone starts up...

That's just the ordinary startup sequence, not the bootloader screen. Maybe try again? It's a little tricky I know, you just have to press the standby and camera buttons fully in as you release the soft reset button with the stylus. As soon as you release the other buttons (I think) it will go into the normal boot sequence as above.

[lipa47]

You are both wrong. To enter bootloader mode you have to press reset while pressing camera button, and keep pressing them as long as tricolor screen shows. You don't have to press power/stanby button!

[Boinng]

You are both wrong. To enter bootloader mode you have to press reset while pressing camera button, and keep pressing them as long as tricolor screen shows. You don't have to press power/stanby button!

Ok, my bad - I read the camera+standby button method somewhere here, and it seemed to work for me, but if it's not needed then don't do it.

[lipa47]

Can someone test for freezings in bad reception area in GSM or/and 3G signal. I'm actually running on official spl but it froze for a while when signal was weak. I just wanna make sure that poor signal is not responsible for freezing issue :)

[SecureGSM]

@lipa47

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2242940&postcount=171

[Bumfluv]

Ah that did the trick ... it worked for me fine. and I have SPL 3.29

Thanks for you support sofar.

BTW, besides the lags and the not-responding thin, I notices that when writing messages (SMS and e-mail) and type names, outlook does not propose the names from my address-book anymore. I have to manually check these names from the menu and then it will comple them.

(yes I know this question does not belong to this topic, or at least to my first question about the speed after upgrading to the new 6.1 rom)

And what's that thing about hard-resetting after a rom upgrade. The upgrade itself is already a hard-reset. Does that make any difference ?

[lipa47]

OK, thanks, I'm blind :) I got forced GSM mode anyway, but before flashing official spl I had too. Now it's not freezing but maybe just because I got strong signal.

[fooar]

Hy
There is two lignes:
Selectionner votre type de réseau: "Select your type network"
Auto or GSM or WCDMA
And
Selectionner your band GSM/UMTS: "Select your band GSM/UMTS"
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(2100) or
GSM (900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) or
UMTS(2100+800)

[lipa47]

Bumfluv

Try force GSM mode in phone settings and see if it helps with freezings.

[Bumfluv]

I've just applied the settings for 2G band, but what do you mean with remove the simcard ? Do I have to put it back afterwards and start the phone up ?

[lipa47]

I think that you can ignore that bit with simcard. Alternatively you can switch to plane mode and see if it still freezes without GSM connection.

[gogol]

This is not true.

I use official HTC WM6.0 ROM, never changed that prior installing the new official HTC WM6.1 ROM.

I dont have HardSPL installed.

But guess what, I also experienced this freezing issue from now and then. Sometimes unresponsive when tapping in the screens.

So, thats why I flashed my Kaiser with L26 v3 ROM (for the first time I installed HardSPL!).

Unfortunately, it also suffer this freezing (less).

Thats why I dont really think this is SPL issue, but yeah who knows!

I will re-flash and try to change some settings (pagepool, etc.).


I also have no more freezes since I got rid of Hard SPL people on XDA blaming HTC for releasing a new crappy 6.1 ROM it is not true - works fine with HTC SPL, let's wait for new HardSPL WM 6.1 roms ... before this time I have no problem to load HardSPL to my device and upload any other rom.

R.

[Bumfluv]

Oops the phone freezes when I try to change to GSm band. one minute later it pops up with the message that it is not possible to change to GSM band.

Next sugestion ?

:confused:

[lipa47]

Sometimes I got the same, you have to do it quickly. Go to phone, then straight to band, change and click ok.

[SecureGSM]

No, physically remove SIM card. that is important. that is option #2.
option #1: force 2G ONLY mode (GSM)

[layer1]

Well, I took this to the next level and tested the pausing/freezing effect on AT&T WM6.0 latest release.

Here's the scoop. I was on the AT&T WM6.0 latest release and was experiencing the freezing/pausing effect with HardSPL installed. When L26 Diamond V3 was released I install the ROM in hope the issue would go away, which it didn't. Then I saw this thread and applied the WWE SPL 6.1 and behold, it went away (already posted this the other day).

Now, I reinstalled HardSPL and put the AT&T WM 6.0 ROM back on the Tilt and started to experience the pasuing/freezing effects again after playing with it for half hour or so. Once I was able to confirm the pausing/freezing effect couple times I then installed the lastest SPL from AT&T (Feb 14, 2008. Thanks to Sirsycho for his post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568) and once again, the pausing/freezing effects went away.

No issues, 3 hours prior to going to sleep. Fully charge the phone over night and this morning was playing around for half hour and still no issues. I will continue to play with the phone this morning as I have couple hours to waste. Will update my post later today with my findings.

I'm by no means an expert but this is what Im finding. Will post back later today.

[Bumfluv]

No difference in freezes between 2G and 3G. Played around with the phone for a while, seems that all this fiddeling resulted in less freezes. At least they don't bother me no more.

What bothers me more is that I've lost the TX9 (proposed words) or the T9 dictionary. This does not work anymore ...
Another thing is when typeing messages outlook does not propose names from the contact anymore.

Does that sound familiar to anyone ?

[fitdocsr]

Well, I took this to the next level and tested the pausing/freezing effect on AT&T WM6.0 latest release.

Here's the scoop. I was on the AT&T WM6.0 latest release and was experiencing the freezing/pausing effect with HardSPL installed. When L26 Diamond V3 was released I install the ROM in hope the issue would go away, which it didn't. Then I saw this thread and applied the WWE SPL 6.1 and behold, it went away (already posted this the other day).

Now, I reinstalled HardSPL and put the AT&T WM 6.0 ROM back on the Tilt and started to experience the pasuing/freezing effects again after playing with it for half hour or so. Once I was able to confirm the pausing/freezing effect couple times I then installed the lastest SPL from AT&T (Feb 14, 2008. Thanks to Sirsycho for his post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568) and once again, the pausing/freezing effects went away.

No issues, 3 hours prior to going to sleep. Fully charge the phone over night and this morning was playing around for half hour and still no issues. I will continue to play with the phone this morning as I have couple hours to waste. Will update my post later today with my findings.

I'm by no means an expert but this is what Im finding. Will post back later today.

I did exactly the same thing and got the same results. I am certain that hardspl was causing the freezing as mine are gone after two days of testing. So its not just the official 6.1, it effects the tilt roms period.

[gogol]

In my case, I changed the File cache etc. using KaiserTweak to the "advised" value and now the freezing is gone!

Before that, I have difficulties tapping the screen when writing notes for example. Really unresponsive ... but now, its OK :)

Check that settings btw :)

[rajmagi]

Hi !

By freeze i mean: tap the screen or press keys and nothing happens for 2-5 seconds. This would happen to me about once every 2 minutes.

This is what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
I used the SPL extracted from the nbh of the official wm6.1 build which reverted my SPL back to the official one. You won't be able to flash a custom ROM anymore, until you install HardSPL again.

I have been using the Kaiser for about 30 min and no freeze.

It was not my idea that it was a SPL issue, someone mentioned this in a thread about the leaked WWE 6.1 (which is identical to the official WWE one)

edit1: This only applies if you installed HardSPL
edit2: Thanks to shafez for being the first to think about this. Apparently i was trying it at the same time as him, so i didn't know he also posted the results, that's why i started the thread as soon as saw the fix worked.

"12. Run SSPL.KAIS.exe from your phone (make sure you do this on your actual device and not your PC)"

Mine just showing WHITE SCREEN
----------->

I just flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_Version_4
I used Jump SPL 1.93 to unlock but somehow cant Jump SPL to lock it back to 6.1 spl. without Jump SPL, 6.1 finish updated using KaiserCustomRUU.exe but ..----------->

well just some solution of mine that works:
1. I tried to change back to 6.1 spl, but somehow tricol mode still still confirm that mine is still unlocked! Never shows SPL 3.28 .... still "lili-pof" mode.. gosh... somewhat reduce freeze and m$ error report to show. But like placebo effects errors just keep coming.
2. Changing PagePoo 16mb--> I found this on some thread. somewhat reduce freeze and m$ error report to show. But like placebo effects errors just keep coming.
3. Change Radio to 1.65.20.29--> I tried this because my Kaiser just freeze if I switch GSM/WCDMA mode from auto. So far no freezes or error, as far as I remember. I can change between modes, and Sound corrupted or invalid path just gone.

so maybe if you are "white screen victim" you may find No. 3 is the solution
May differs for other... Good luck

[SecureGSM]

just in case we were wondering is something was really wrong with this rom udate:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2234850&postcount=356


3. Change Radio to 1.65.20.29--> I tried this because my Kaiser just freeze if I switch GSM/WCDMA mode from auto. So far no freezes or error, as far as I remember. I can change between modes, and Sound corrupted or invalid path just gone.

[baallrog]

For me the freeze continue with the original hardspl ...

I found it on this thread.

This is the french hardspl.
I have the French version of the HTC official rom.

I hav notice that when i disable phone part, there is no more freeze ...

or me it's an radio part issue i think ...

[Teijak]

I hav notice that when i disable phone part, there is no more freeze ...

or me it's an radio part issue i think ...

Yes i noticed it too, i disabeld 3G in commanager and the freezing was gone.
Maybe a fluke but who knows?

Teijak

[baallrog]

Yes i noticed it too, i disabeld 3G in commanager and the freezing was gone.
Maybe a fluke but who knows?

Teijak

Ok.

So, is there another radio rom ?

[gfreek]

Just to reiterate people the last couple of days I have flashed back and forth the SPL and again I can confirm that with the official SPL 3.28 I have no freeze issues! and like many of you in this thread who have pointed out I cannot fathom as to why this is the case??

So I guess we definitely need a new HardSPL based on this SPL!

And just before someone asks prior to the flashing of the SPL 3.28, tried everything to eliminate or reduce freeze, i.e. change cache, tweaked the touch panel threshold even tried as many of you who have pointed here disabling 3g, although some of the tweak reduced the issue but could not eliminate the issue altogether until I flashed this SPL:)

I know in one of my previous post here when I flashed this SPL 3.28 first time, I said something like "So far can confirm this seems to work, no freezes and it's blazingly fast" I take the last words back "blazingly fast" I guess I got too excited that the freeze issue was gone!! I can now confirm after using it for couple days although it feels a bit nippier there really isn't a performance gain.

also I'm currently running this rom on 16mb page pool but to be honest can't really see the difference from the default dynamic page pool setting:-/ in any case left at 16mb page pool!

[bengalih]

Just to reiterate people the last couple of days I have flashed back and forth the SPL and again I can confirm that with the official SPL 3.28 I have no freeze issues! and like many of you in this thread who have pointed out I cannot fathom as to why this is the case??

So I guess we definitely need a new HardSPL based on this SPL!

And just before someone asks prior to the flashing of the SPL 3.28, tried everything to eliminate or reduce freeze, i.e. change cache, tweaked the touch panel threshold even tried as many of you who have pointed here disabling 3g, although some of the tweak reduced the issue but could not eliminate the issue altogether until I flashed this SPL:)

I know in one of my previous post here when I flashed this SPL 3.28 first time, I said something like "So far can confirm this seems to work, no freezes and it's blazingly fast" I take the last words back "blazingly fast" I guess I got too excited that the freeze issue was gone!! I can now confirm after using it for couple days although it feels a bit nippier there really isn't a performance gain.

also I'm currently running this rom on 16mb page pool but to be honest can't really see the difference from the default dynamic page pool setting:-/ in any case left at 16mb page pool!

Can you provide some qualitative tests to perform that shows then the "issues" are present and when they are not?

I have not seemed to experience issues on my Tilt with HardSPL, although maybe I am not as finicky as others.

If you could state exactly what and how you were testing while you switched between the SPLs so that others can acknowledge that the problems exist and thus dissapear with the new SPL.

For instance:
"After a clean reboot do A and B...then when going to do C you will see a 2 second delay. After updating SPL following this same procedure has no delay...etc..."

[Esteel]

Can you provide some qualitative tests to perform that shows then the "issues" are present and when they are not?

I have not seemed to experience issues on my Tilt with HardSPL, although maybe I am not as finicky as others.

If you could state exactly what and how you were testing while you switched between the SPLs so that others can acknowledge that the problems exist and thus dissapear with the new SPL.

For instance:
"After a clean reboot do A and B...then when going to do C you will see a 2 second delay. After updating SPL following this same procedure has no delay...etc..."


What about a Youtube video showing the freeze with HARDSPL installed and the same steps with HARDSPL removed?

[pietrucci]

Well well, I installed the latest L26 ROM V4 and it felt rather fast and snappy.

Reading this thread I thought I'd make it even better and flashed both the official WM6.1 SPL ánd Kyphur's Pagepool 16 Mb.
Well, I shouldn't have done that: every screentab just reacts slow, have to press very hard, freezes now and then.
Not what I expected at all...

Did a hardreset just to make sure, but it kept the same.

Reflash tomorrow with the original ROM (no PP and no official SPL), see if I can get my speed back.

[layer1]

I've been playing with my Tilt all day with the ATT latest SPL installed. I have not experienced a single freeze/pause on my phone all day, where as with HardSPL I would usually see anywhere in the neighborhood 5-7.


Well, I took this to the next level and tested the pausing/freezing effect on AT&T WM6.0 latest release.

Here's the scoop. I was on the AT&T WM6.0 latest release and was experiencing the freezing/pausing effect with HardSPL installed. When L26 Diamond V3 was released I install the ROM in hope the issue would go away, which it didn't. Then I saw this thread and applied the WWE SPL 6.1 and behold, it went away (already posted this the other day).

Now, I reinstalled HardSPL and put the AT&T WM 6.0 ROM back on the Tilt and started to experience the pasuing/freezing effects again after playing with it for half hour or so. Once I was able to confirm the pausing/freezing effect couple times I then installed the lastest SPL from AT&T (Feb 14, 2008. Thanks to Sirsycho for his post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568) and once again, the pausing/freezing effects went away.

No issues, 3 hours prior to going to sleep. Fully charge the phone over night and this morning was playing around for half hour and still no issues. I will continue to play with the phone this morning as I have couple hours to waste. Will update my post later today with my findings.

I'm by no means an expert but this is what Im finding. Will post back later today.

[gfreek]

Can you provide some qualitative tests to perform that shows then the "issues" are present and when they are not?

I have not seemed to experience issues on my Tilt with HardSPL, although maybe I am not as finicky as others.

If you could state exactly what and how you were testing while you switched between the SPLs so that others can acknowledge that the problems exist and thus dissapear with the new SPL.

For instance:
"After a clean reboot do A and B...then when going to do C you will see a 2 second delay. After updating SPL following this same procedure has no delay...etc..."

begalih I know you are skeptical about this! in any case to summarize here's what I did:

Test1
with HardSPL
-flashed ROM
-did hard reset
-installed all my apps
-tested for full working day

issues: upon every other wake from sleep, screen lag (especially noticable when I'm using finger rather then stylus), freeze about 2-3 sec! tried various tweaks as I mentioned before no joy:(

Test2 - plain vanilla (just to make sure the issues were not due to any installed 3rd party apps)
with HardSPL
- Hard Reset
- Re-flash the ROM
- Hard Reset
- No apps installed
- tested full working day
Issues: again same as above!!

Test3
With SPL 3.28
- flashed SPL 3.28
- Hard Reset
- re-flashed ROM (Super CID so no issues in flashing official ROMS)
- Hard reset
- installed all my apps
- tested full working day

Issues: none i.e. no freeeze no screen lag:)

As you can see I've been thorough to the point of Hard Reseting each time just to make sure!!!

[Boinng]

Can you provide some qualitative tests to perform that shows then the "issues" are present and when they are not?

I have not seemed to experience issues on my Tilt with HardSPL, although maybe I am not as finicky as others.

If you could state exactly what and how you were testing while you switched between the SPLs so that others can acknowledge that the problems exist and thus dissapear with the new SPL.

For instance:
"After a clean reboot do A and B...then when going to do C you will see a 2 second delay. After updating SPL following this same procedure has no delay...etc..."

I think the fact is the kind of freezing people are talking about here has always been random - like some others I always experienced it to some lesser extent on the older 6.0 rom, but took it (largely from posts here) to be a "feature" of the device.

There is no set sequence that would always produce a freeze - sometimes the phone might have none for quite some time, then - usually just when you need to get at something in a hurry - pressing on that soft button to bring up your calendar just doesn't do anything. So you just keep pressing it for a few seconds until it deigns to respond, and when it does it just responds the once as if that was the first and only time you pressed it - that's a typical freze in my book. And like I say, for the last six months on the (Hard SPL'd) 6.0 rom it's been a perfectly bearable and minor annoyance. With the 6.1 rom however the freezes were much more frequent and persistent at times. Now, with the HTC SPL from that same rom installed, they're gone - completely. I've been playing with this phone a lot, and not once in the last two days since reflashing the SPL has it so much as hinted at the possibility of another freeze. And that's with absolutely no changes to page pool or file cache etc either.

Is it possible that such PP and file system adjustments are merely compensating for this SPL issue for some users?

[Isaygarcia]

Flashed SPL and my SPL still saying : 1.0.Olipof

xD!

what i did wrong?

[jackcho]

does somebody has the 6.1 dutch original spl . I tried to extract but i failed.

[kjb86]

ok, hopefully someone can respond and help out. cause im confused

so basically, the idea is to flash back to an OEM rom, SPL the device.

After that, you aren't able to HardSPL again because it will still cause freezing problems. Therefore, we can only use an OEM rom until something is fixed?

[lewcamino]

ok, hopefully someone can respond and help out. cause im confused

so basically, the idea is to flash back to an OEM rom, SPL the device.

After that, you aren't able to HardSPL again because it will still cause freezing problems. Therefore, we can only use an OEM rom until something is fixed?

Are you fucking kidding me...

Look at post #161

[ipaqsg]

ok, hopefully someone can respond and help out. cause im confused

so basically, the idea is to flash back to an OEM rom, SPL the device.

After that, you aren't able to HardSPL again because it will still cause freezing problems. Therefore, we can only use an OEM rom until something is fixed?


What I did:
1) Install HardSPL
2) Flash self-cooked ROM
3) install OEM SPL

Whenever I need to flash a cooked ROM, I just follow above steps.

[pietrucci]

Well well, I installed the latest L26 ROM V4 and it felt rather fast and snappy.

Reading this thread I thought I'd make it even better and flashed both the official WM6.1 SPL ánd Kyphur's Pagepool 16 Mb.
Well, I shouldn't have done that: every screentab just reacts slow, have to press very hard, freezes now and then.
Not what I expected at all...

Did a hardreset just to make sure, but it kept the same.

Reflash tomorrow with the original ROM (no PP and no official SPL), see if I can get my speed back.So now I must correct myself, I spoke too soon...

I've been using my ROM with the above settings (factory SPL and PP 16Mb) for half a day now and after a coupple of softresets it works like a charme now. No more freezes, nomore slowdowns.

Seems it DOES work going back to the factory SPL!

[Paramedic]

does somebody has the 6.1 dutch original spl . I tried to extract but i failed.

worked for me!

[benz710]

a little bit confused too.
I've got a MDA Vario III. which original ROM (original spl) should I use?

Thank you.

[jpierson]

Damnit, can't get that to work..I get to the point where the update should start, but it just says 0% for a minute or so, and then I get the connection error message.

I run Vista, and JumpSPL instead of SSPL-KAIS.exe (due to the white screen problem)

Took me a couple of times:
1. Connect to activesync
2. Run JumpSPL
3. Disconnect USB
4. Reconnect
5. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

the first two time it sat at 0% and wouldn't work... then like magic it worked the third time... no hard reset for me *whew*

Phone feels a little bit better... still playing with it...

[nicholasendean]

Took me a couple of times:
1. Connect to activesync
2. Run JumpSPL
3. Disconnect USB
4. Reconnect
5. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

the first two time it sat at 0% and wouldn't work... then like magic it worked the third time... no hard reset for me *whew*

Phone feels a little bit better... still playing with it...

DUDE......thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooo much. I have been going to bits as I kept getting error 260 (connection)
Now thanks to your advice above, I have got a result. Thanks a million. :)

[neil@domino.org]

I think the talk of SPL being the issue is a red herring.

Just checking my phone I've still got HardSPL on my phone and in running this for over a week with heavy usage the phone has been rock solid - the only issue I have discovered is bluetooth headset doesn't swap between music and phone automatically when a call comes in.

Neil.

[rcidrued]

It works, yesterday upgraded the spl and goodbye to freezes.

[Boinng]

I think the talk of SPL being the issue is a red herring.

Just checking my phone I've still got HardSPL on my phone and in running this for over a week with heavy usage the phone has been rock solid - the only issue I have discovered is bluetooth headset doesn't swap between music and phone automatically when a call comes in.

Neil.

And you're using the newest official HTC ROM? In all your heavy use you've not once pressed a button, or touched the screen, and found the phone doesn't respond until you try it again a few seconds later?

Have you tweaked the page pool, or file cache, or disabled 3G, or anything like that?

I hate to say it, but you're just one user, compared to many in this thread and elsewhere reporting improvements with the SPL change. Right now, you're far more likely to be the red herring :)

[emilceteras]

worked for me ,too ! When I installed SPL I had a problem in bootloader mode- my phone appeared as disconected from computer . after disconecting
and conecting the USB cable everything was OK

[SouthernLuke]

I think the talk of SPL being the issue is a red herring.

Just checking my phone I've still got HardSPL on my phone and in running this for over a week with heavy usage the phone has been rock solid - the only issue I have discovered is bluetooth headset doesn't swap between music and phone automatically when a call comes in.

Neil.

I would have to agree. I'm running Death V2 w/ Hard-SPL and I'm not experiencing any issues as mentioned above.

Is it because of the build (AT&T based rom on a Tilt) vs. HTC New release on whatever variations of the Tytn II?

But my biggest question: Why didn't somebody check this out when we started getting leaked WM 6.1 roms?

[jpierson]

DUDE......thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooo much. I have been going to bits as I kept getting error 260 (connection)
Now thanks to your advice above, I have got a result. Thanks a million. :)

Something else that might help people, the first two times I forgot to take out my sd card... then I remembered seeing something about that from the first time I flashed...

[johneijg]

I must admit that I was skeptical about the SPL making a difference.
But after installing the HTC 6.1 SPL I must admit that everything feels a bit snappier and with proper responses.

Just a wild guess but my theory would be that the Bootloader sets some registers in the Qualcomm Chips which enhance the behaviour.

[karch4]

I have flashed dozens of ROM using Hard SPL but I am having a problem going back to the HTC 6.1

Steps I have done on my Tilt:

1. Loaded SSPL_KAIS.exe to the phone and ran it. Tri-color screen came up with no problem.
2. Reset device.
3. Flashed HTC_6.1_SSPL to phone. Bootloader reads: KAIS1*0; SPL-3.28.0000.
4. When trying to flash the HTC 6.1 ROM, the screen goes to the gray status bar but does not load. I get an error on the ROM Updater that reads: "ERROR [294]: INVALID VENDOR ID".

Any help is appreciated. When I loaded the HTC 6.1 ROM with the Hard SPL, it was terrible. I am looking forward to this fix.

[DaveShaw]

I have flashed dozens of ROM using Hard SPL but I am having a problem going back to the HTC 6.1

Steps I have done on my Tilt:

1. Loaded SSPL_KAIS.exe to the phone and ran it. Tri-color screen came up with no problem.
2. Reset device.
3. Flashed HTC_6.1_SSPL to phone. Bootloader reads: KAIS1*0; SPL-3.28.0000.
4. When trying to flash the HTC 6.1 ROM, the screen goes to the gray status bar but does not load. I get an error on the ROM Updater that reads: "ERROR [294]: INVALID VENDOR ID".

Any help is appreciated. When I loaded the HTC 6.1 ROM with the Hard SPL, it was terrible. I am looking forward to this fix.

Put on HardSPL.
Flash the ROM.
Revert to the Orginal HTC SPL.

Ta,
Dave

[FishooK]

So, let me get this right....HardSPL is required to flash cooked ROMs, but is not required to run them? i.e. you can run a cooked ROM using the original SPL?

[lipa47]

Put on HardSPL.
Flash the ROM.
Revert to the Orginal HTC SPL.

Ta,
Dave

This is because when you flash hard-spl it doesn't make your phone supercid, it just bypasses checking and overwriting spl when you flash rom!!!

For example: my kaiser originaly was orange branded. I put hard-spl and I could flash whatever I wanted. When I put back any official spl it will become orange locked again!!! That's why you have to flash rom first and spl then.

[neil@domino.org]

And you're using the newest official HTC ROM? In all your heavy use you've not once pressed a button, or touched the screen, and found the phone doesn't respond until you try it again a few seconds later?

Have you tweaked the page pool, or file cache, or disabled 3G, or anything like that?

I hate to say it, but you're just one user, compared to many in this thread and elsewhere reporting improvements with the SPL change. Right now, you're far more likely to be the red herring :)

fair challenge :D

So i'm reporting what I've seen and trust me any issues with lag or anything and I'd have dropped back to the TMobile stock win6.0 rom.

I've not had any screen touch lag, any button lag or any scroll lag, i've not touched the page pool/file cache or disabled 3G (my phone is 99% of the time in a HSDPA area).

I installed the WWE Ship 6.1 Rom last Friday and the phone has been fine. It feels better than 6.0 esp downloading large IMAP folders, direct push works fine, Bluetooth audio is great except when I get a call it doesn't automatically switch back. I've used the phone as a 3G modem and on wifi, alot of usage of google maps - its rock solid. I don't run many third party apps, prefer to keep the phone clean so that when I need to make calls or do work - it works reliably.

I'm not saying that people aren't having issues, I'm just not seeing them. Phone is a Tmob MDA Vario III.

Regards,
Neil.

[_LEM_]

Just got it to work after a few attempts. Here is what I did:
1. Connect to ActiveSync
2. Run SSPL-KAIS.exe on the Kaiser
3. Wait for ActiveSync to disconnect
4. Unplug Kaiser
5. Wait a few seconds and then plug Kaiser
6. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe

Thanks a lot. I got it to work by doing that.

I've always had those freezes problems. Even before I had WM6.1 installed.
I guess that my problems started when I installed the first cooked rom.

After following those steps I haven't had a single freeze.

[dr_derqami]

Changing spl from hspl really works . Probably they have written to new roms that ' upon encountering wth hspl make trouble.' :) or spl is more than a preboot tool.
Thanx u all

[karch4]

Put on HardSPL.
Flash the ROM.
Revert to the Orginal HTC SPL.

Ta,
Dave

After reading all through the posts, I can't believe it was that simple.

Thanks Dave.

BTW - the difference in performance is fantastic.

[DaveShaw]

So, let me get this right....HardSPL is required to flash cooked ROMs, but is not required to run them? i.e. you can run a cooked ROM using the original SPL?

Yep, you don't need to reflash after changing SPL.

The SPL is what is used by the RRU program to flash the ROM on the device. The RRU just passes the image to the SPL.

Ta
Dave

[FishooK]

Yep, you don't need to reflash after changing SPL.

The SPL is what is used by the RRU program to flash the ROM on the device. The RRU just passes the image to the SPL.

Ta
Dave

Thanks. For some reason I've always been under the impression that HardSPL was required to flash and to run cooked ROMs. Learn something new everyday....

[wim26]

I also changed from hardspl to custom spl and it makes a difference. It's not faster but there are no freezes which is great. Thx

[mean-machine]

Hi.
I'm running Leo's Diamond Rom V3 at the moment and I've got HardSPL installed. I flashed the original SPL which I downloaded here, I got the flashing successful message, but when I checked it, it was still the same - hard spl. I read here that it can help with cooked ROMs as well, so if I'm not wrong, it should work. Or am I doing something wrong?
Sorted... HardSPL has SPL overwrite blocked. So I had to use jumpSPL and it's fine.

[meanvulcan]

Can someone post the Official SPL (6.1) I can use with Leo's Diamond ROMs? I am asusming it's just the official 6.1 SPL. By the way, why does it matter whether it's the HTC SPL or AT&T SPL?

[Churchill]

Reverted to Stock WM 6.1 SPL and the problem is gone

[lewcamino]

Can someone post the Official SPL (6.1) I can use with Leo's Diamond ROMs? I am asusming it's just the official 6.1 SPL. By the way, why does it matter whether it's the HTC SPL or AT&T SPL?

It is in a post near the beginning of this thread...READ.

[elmoono]

I was sceptical that a bootloader could affect OS performance. Took the plunge, flashed new spl, hard reset, flashed official 6.1 rom, hard reset. Then had 2 days of really good performance with no freezes and only occasional unresponsive screen.
Day 3 screen taps varying wildly from instant response one hour, to having to tap several times the next - tested with soft resets etc, no fixed pattern.
No freezes what so ever. However i think i preffered a few minimal freezes on some of dutty's builds to the screen tap problem i now face, will give it a few more days.
Why has the screen tap issue increased over the last 3 days? I can only assume via the slow customisation - getting all the settings how i like them, as i have not installed an app yet! I really think something i have set in settings has caused screen tap problem, I dont appear to have any sensitivity controller in settings - guess i could try kaisertweak or something to improve screen sensitivity.

[aeacus]

Another one to confirm.
I've been using L26 Kaiser Diamond V4, and despite the fact that the ROM is fast , i was experiencing random freezes.
Not totally random as I've noticed that when you play a little chess it freezes more often.
Changed to Official WM 6.1 SPL and after 3 hours and a lot of chess no freezes at all...
So the question now is are we gonna see a new HardSPL?
Because flashing by changing HardSPL to Official SPL and back is going to be a real pain in the ass.

[gfreek]

Another one to confirm.

So the question now is are we gonna see a new HardSPL?
Because flashing by changing HardSPL to Official SPL and back is going to be a real pain in the ass.

I agree we definitely need new HardSPL! not much of an issue for me as I have Super CID so can flash any official ROM however I do prefer the safety of HardSPL and the convenience of flashing any rom be it official or not!

From what I can see in this thread it's unanimous that official SPL does resolve the freeze issue! although I cannot cannot see any performance gain, I have been using the official SPL for the last 3 days and I'm very happy no freeze issue what so ever!!:)

for those who have this ROM running at 16mb page pool, do you guys see any gain in performance? because I've been running this ROM on 16mb page pool but cannot see any performance gain?? so I've reverted back to default dynamic setting!!

[Macgyvec3]

I'm with you bengalih. I have L26 kaiser diamond v4(wm6.1) and Hardspl but I don't suffer from the screen freezes everyone else is. I started with my warrenty replacement tilt with a 7201 chipset and the latest offical at&t rom, then the first at&t wm6.1 rom which I then put hardspl on after the test rom and never had this problem. It could be specific to certain variables(i.e. device type, or original spl before hardspl etc) but someone will have to find it.

[meanvulcan]

It is in a post near the beginning of this thread...READ.

I did... just wanted to confirm that the extracted SPL found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1572072&postcount=1) (AT&T Only/Feb 14, 2008) is the appropriate 6.1 version. Thanks.

[Scrog]

Can't seem to make it happen.
Originally needed jocky's SPL to get past white screen for OliPof.
A few weeks ago, went the Jocky SPL-CID unlock route and am not security unlocked with SPL 1.0.OliPof CPLD-9 and Security unlocked on the bootscreen

Can't use standard SSPL's: white screen. Able to enter bootloader with Jocky's SSPL and can start flash but never get beyond the 0% regardless of which SPL I use (ATT or HTC).

What am I missing?

[bengalih]

Can't seem to make it happen.
Originally needed jocky's SPL to get past white screen for OliPof.
A few weeks ago, went the Jocky SPL-CID unlock route and am not security unlocked with SPL 1.0.OliPof CPLD-9 and Security unlocked on the bootscreen

Can't use standard SSPL's: white screen. Able to enter bootloader with Jocky's SSPL and can start flash but never get beyond the 0% regardless of which SPL I use (ATT or HTC).

What am I missing?

Scrog, I had similar issues.

What you want is to use Jump-SPL. Load that on your device and run it. It will go to the boot-loader screen. Wait about 5 seconds and you should see it say USB at the bottom. If it never says USB you have the same problem I do which is that it doesn't work with an SD card in. Take out your SD card, soft-reset and run Jump-SPL again.

Once you get it to say USB, unplug and then plug your usb connection back. Now you should be able to flash any SPL. It took me a while to get it, but i have flashed tons of SPLs using this method over the past 2 days :)

I have attached Jump-SPL for you.

[Scrog]

Scrog, I had similar issues.

What you want is to use Jump-SPL. Load that on your device and run it. It will go to the boot-loader screen. Wait about 5 seconds and you should see it say USB at the bottom. If it never says USB you have the same problem I do which is that it doesn't work with an SD card in. Take out your SD card, soft-reset and run Jump-SPL again.

Once you get it to say USB, unplug and then plug your usb connection back. Now you should be able to flash any SPL. It took me a while to get it, but i have flashed tons of SPLs using this method over the past 2 days :)

I have attached Jump-SPL for you.

I was using Jump-SPL 1.56 so I'll give this 1.93 a try

SD card out now...
So far I can't get it to see a usb connection...

[gman8966]

Scrog, I had similar issues.

What you want is to use Jump-SPL. Load that on your device and run it. It will go to the boot-loader screen. Wait about 5 seconds and you should see it say USB at the bottom. If it never says USB you have the same problem I do which is that it doesn't work with an SD card in. Take out your SD card, soft-reset and run Jump-SPL again.

Once you get it to say USB, unplug and then plug your usb connection back. Now you should be able to flash any SPL. It took me a while to get it, but i have flashed tons of SPLs using this method over the past 2 days :)

I have attached Jump-SPL for you.

This worked for me! I could not get it earlier today when I tried but never took out my sim or SD card. I took them both out and used Jump 1.93 and it worked! Flashed the updated ATT SPL on there!

[Scrog]

This worked for me! I could not get it earlier today when I tried but never took out my sim or SD card. I took them both out and used Jump 1.93 and it worked! Flashed the updated ATT SPL on there!

It worked. SPL 1.56.0000! Now to see if the struggle paid off.

[bengalih]

It worked. SPL 1.56.0000! Now to see if the struggle paid off.

Just out of curiousity why 1.56? That is the original AT&T SPL. I was under the impression the consensus was to use the latest HTC SPL 3.28?

[bengalih]

This worked for me! I could not get it earlier today when I tried but never took out my sim or SD card. I took them both out and used Jump 1.93 and it worked! Flashed the updated ATT SPL on there!

You shouldn't have to take out your SIM...just your SD.

I still don't know why some people's devices suffer from this issue.

Scrog noted that he used Jockey's SIM + CID unlocker, as did I. Did you also use this tool? This may be why we are getting this white screen issue.

[mcfarlan]

Wasn't sure which thread to post to, but anyway, following my comments in Bengalih's thread I flashed the 1.93 SPL to Death V2 even though I had no 'apparent' issues. I have to admit that since then there has been a smoothness to the Rom that was not there before. It is not necessarily faster, but definitely more responsive and smooth. Thanks guys...it is a continuous learning experience...

[gman8966]

You shouldn't have to take out your SIM...just your SD.

I still don't know why some people's devices suffer from this issue.

Scrog noted that he used Jockey's SIM + CID unlocker, as did I. Did you also use this tool? This may be why we are getting this white screen issue.

I did not use Jockey's unlocker. I just took out my SIM and SD card. Loaded up Jump 1.93 (used 1.93 because the original post somewhere said that was the updated AT&T one) dc/c and reconnected and flashed SPL successfully.