[PRJ][WWE][05.06.2008]Touch Surface // The Cooking begins![ONLINE]

[bram_smulders]

(Noonski's Edit)http://bramsmulders.homeserver.com/surface/surface.jpg
New Info Coming Soon.

Bram Smulders Has Left The Buidling, I Repeat Bram Smulders has Left the Building.
Houston we have a problem a megalomaniacal Moderator has some Tricks to unleash to the Elf Flasher.
A true Finger Friendly Touch that does not eat memory like most super flashy Today Screen and Shell replacers.




(Original Post)
Gr. Bram Smulders
Ps. I want to thank everybody who donated me for a new touch, the money is spend well on a Mda touch white(elfin)

[bram_smulders]

Introducing the slightly updated Surface Production Crew:

Chief rom development:
Noonski

Cooks:
1- Noonski
2- ababrekar
3- Koala996
4- Re-Mi
5- Pkoper
6- Piranha

Designers:
1- Noonski
2- Surface_Rom

Multilinguality:
1- HavocNl
2- Re-Mi(Dutch)
3- Noonski(Dutch)
4- Pkoper(German)
5- Koala996 (French)
6- Surface_Rom (Dutch)

Beta testers:
- ababrekar
- HavocNl
- Noonski
- Re-Mi
- Surface_Rom
- Koala996
- Many Others, and many thanks for that.

Server:
- Piranha1

Menu Developer:
- MORT (but not an official SPC Member, but still very important for his latest developments)

Marketing:
- Noonski
- You

Thanks To Bram Smulders for getting these Heads together.

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Touch Surface Filosophy:

Surface:

(n.) A magnitude that has length and breadth without thickness; superficies; as, a plane surface; a spherical surface.
(n.) The exterior part of anything that has length and breadth; one of the limits that bound a solid, esp. the upper face; superficies; the outside; as, the surface of the earth; the surface of a diamond; the surface of the body.
(v. t.) To give a surface to; especially, to cause to have a smooth or plain surface; to make smooth or plain.


The ROM is intended to be smooth, without crap, suitable for anyone and above all: Beautiful designed
We think, and probably most guys here, that a ROM on a device must be a fast, easy to use and not bloated ROM.
This are going be the main features of the surface RO.
To create a ROM that suits everybody, with enough possibility's to expand to the needs of the user.


A Surface is something that has substance, you can tell it's a Surface because it has detail you can see, and detail you can feel.
How you experience a Surface therefore comes from how you experience it.
And it will change the way you have experienced your ELF up until now.

[bram_smulders]

Graphics/Screenshots:

The Logo:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee270/Noonski76/SurfaceLogo.png
Nice and big attention grabbing

TODO:
FIX WMP Bug http://www.sharemobile.ro/file.php?id=46803 (Fixed)
Check out Dutch Diamond Keypad Lay Out Bug.
Testing old t9 Dual Modelus.
Not all links are complete in Menu yet.

[bram_smulders]

List of apps/tweaks that will be included:

Os:
wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.

Apps:
All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:
- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)
- Windows update(since 1,5 years of wm6 there has not been any update)
- Winzip(if we can break it out)(it's out)
- Help System (If your flashing your ROM these are not going to help you out in trouble)
- Cube removed Replaced Upwards Swipe with vijay555's VJBrisk to start new Menu

Plus:
- Opera 9.5, newest build from diamond (with customised graphics) (Thanks to Phouki)
- Youtube client (XDA version, Diamond version does not work in QVGA... yet)
- Adobe Flash lite(2.1 A lot of old movies do not run in 3.0)
- Adobe Reader
- Batterystatus (2x with Surface Skin, so Surface Skin is retained if BTStatus is updated)
- Java client (Must be oemmed)
- ArcSof MMS 4.2.8.1 (Your Right It's Not The Latest Version, there must be a reason for that)
- Office 6.1 (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, TiffViewer)
- Pim Backup 2
- Pocket rar
- Screen capture
- Total_Commander 2.5
- NetCF 2.0 (Untill apps get updated and support 3.5)
- Advance config 2.1 (Latest XML file)
- Bleutooth FTP
- WM5Torage
- Remote Desktop WM6.1
- Sim Manager Version (????)
- Windows Live Messenger (10.6.34.800)
- SRS WOW - Plugged or Unplugged Headset + advanced Settings

What's Exlusive
- Unamed Menu System (There is a name)
- TS_ActionScreen (A.K.A. "New Menu", Nope not the one you are used to)
- TS_Long_Press_Power Menu
- TS_Long_Press_Send Menu (A.K.A. "Connect To Menu")
- TS_Camera_Menu (Choose What Camera Does before Starting it or Close it if you have accidentally Pressed that Damned Button Again)
- TS_Shellres(New Version of previous Surface Shell)
- TS_Regtweaks(on server, if you like to add something, do it, but post on the thread is you've changed something)
- TS_FAKE_Extended_ROM (UC Compliant with MortScript Support)
- Windows Media Player (Surface Edition)
- HTC_Random access (Surface Edition)
- HTC_Endkey (Surface Edition)
- HTC_Album (On server, Noonski's Corrected Version)
- HTC_Horizontal 6 Button CommManager (Surface Edition)
- HTC MP3 Trimmer (Surface Edition)
- HTC_Streaming Media (Surface Edition)
- Set Volume 0.40.3b (Surface Edition)

Yup All this fits in the Space a Stock ROM would fit, and it's faster to.
Not to mention the free included Refrigerator Magnets

[Ameet]

hi bram.. Consider me for the below position :)
"Job" offers:

Chief rom development:
Bram Smulders

Cooks:
1- Bram Smulders
2- Would like to Apply here (Ameet B)
3- apply here

Designers:
1- Bram Smulders
2- apply here

Ideas:
1- Everybody who wants to participate

feel free to send me a pm and/or apply via this thread

[tabi13]

Congratulations on having such high spirits and welcome back...

[carpintero]

OKEY bram welcom back of welkom terug wacht rustig af wat je voor een moois gaat maken voor ons:)

[!Aman!]

hi bram
i would also LOVE to apply as a cook. but i'm not as much experienced as u or ameet, started cooking only 2-3 weeks ago so if there is no 3rd person available for the post, count me in.

[kproj]

I could provide the graphics if you're interested. Although what are you looking for? Redesigned icons/dialer/start screen/etc?

I'd totally want to create a white manila theme for everything.

As for Idea's
I would love to see someone implement the actual Diamond Dialer instead of using a memory intensive DxC theme. I've seen in a couple videos of the diamond that it has a fullscreen similar to S2U2 to answer or ignore. If you get that going I say you're gravy!

[Trekvogel]

Good to see you're back. you're right that not much has changed. Unfortunately I'm not very good with graphics or WM so I can't be of much help in that direction. I can give you my suggestions and hope they are of use.

First one is to make a rom in Diamond style, it's a beautiful style. My second suggestion would be to use iContact (maybe skinned). It's fast and very useful. Since 0.7 it's especially very nice.

[aditya_g8]

Can we have a decent GUI with very less ram occupied and Very less memory leak.

I would like flv playback component in WMplayer if possible, or tcpmp player inbuilt

I would like htc audio booster plugin working
I would like htc streaming media player, I think is has flv playback capabilities
Graphics if we could impliment pointui as the base gui!!!

Sorry for the noobish sugesstions, but M totally unaware of wats possible and wats not possible

[havocnl]

:DThe King is back:D
I unfortunately don't know anything about rom making....
All I know is what I like, and I am quit picky at that!

I would like to apply for the role of thread follower ;)
And perhaps of beta tester. I just outfitted my old SonyEricson with my normal number and the Touch with a prepaid backup number. So testing on the touch can commence :D

Maarten van Lijden (Just call me Havocnl)

[aharjono]

Bram,

It's great to have you back, while you're inactive, only PDAMobiz and PDAViet ROMs are regularly updated. Cloudyfa and Swiftblade are also seemed occupied.

Anyway, since you all been inactive, I've been playing around with PDAMobiz and PDAViet ROMs, in their latest version both use ROM based from HTC Diamond.

Personally I like PDAViet ROM,why ?
Performance : it's stable and quite fast, consume less memory than Mobiz
Graphics: all original HTC and Windows Mobile splash screen, the default background is black.
Software : it includes all basic necessary items.

Negative points:
- Space bar problem when using Zoomboard or PCM Keyboard
- Battery drains fast

So suggestion for your new ROM:
- as minimum as possible of program memory, and it should be use to install most useful program, for instance PCM Keyboard/
- Graphics: we should maintain the original splash screen, default background should also be black.

:)

[bram_smulders]

:DThe King is back:D
I unfortunately don't know anything about rom making....
All I know is what I like, and I am quit picky at that!

I would like to apply for the role of thread follower
And perhaps of beta tester. I just outfitted my old SonyEricson with my normal number and the Touch with a prepaid backup number. So testing on the touch can commence

Maarten van Lijden (Just call me Havocnl)

Hi havocnl!!

the king? thelost saviour you should say:P;):D

youre applied

[jackolus]

my little suggestion:

now on top are roms with georgious look ( but it's standard for you bram :D ) and with no-cube replacing features...

all for gaining more ram - if you can do sth for constantly go over 17mb, you're godlike :rolleyes:

of course we're talking about stadard elf, "elfiners" are step further :P

regards

[Grondinm]

hey hey. I have a CDMA Touch (vogue) i am willing to help beta test your roms or anything else. let me know

[david.devroey@skynet.be]

Maybe you can start by making your touch surface on wm6.1?
I'm using your surface rom now for as long as I have my touch. Tried many other but al seem to lack some functionality (like dutch xt9).
Welcome back, by the way.

[Mr. Vi]

Hi bram!

I'd like to apply as betatester and artist :D Next week I've many many exams at school, so I'll be busy. But afterwards I'd like to support you :)

What about a real clean and fast rom?

and did someone here something from xtrinity and his memory manager? I think if an app like this exists, we should get it for our elfs!

Greetings, Vi

[Re-Mi]

Bram,

Offcourse i would like to continue where your took off as a tester of your roms ;)

And in the mean time i picked up some thing or 2 about cooking and currently running my own rom for some weeks now (based on *cough* surface *cough*). I had a lot of help from Noonski, Pkoper and Pirhana.

Unfortunately i have verry litte time on my hands for now to help you out fulltime (starting new job monday), but in a later stadium i'm willing to help with some cooking if the offers still stands by then ;)

But i suggest to drop a line with Pkoper or Noonski for some startup again.

BTW how are your 2 girls doing ?

Greetz,

[pkoper]

Hi ReMi.... nice to see you around again... and of course Bram, finally your back here... my dutch roms just didn't cut it and I won't have much time in the near future play around due to similar personal reasons

[gvanlee]

Good to see y'r back!
I'd be happy to do some beta testing if you need more testers.

[top2]

Personally I like PDAViet ROM,why ?
Performance : it's stable and quite fast, consume less memory than Mobiz
Graphics: all original HTC and Windows Mobile splash screen, the default background is black.
Software : it includes all basic necessary items.

Negative points:
- Space bar problem when using Zoomboard or PCM Keyboard
- Battery drains fast

So suggestion for your new ROM:
- as minimum as possible of program memory, and it should be use to install most useful program, for instance PCM Keyboard/


:)

totally agree !

[david.devroey@skynet.be]

I already posted this question, but as it seems that all the wiz-kids of the touch community are gathered around here, I'm going to post the question again.
Is there no way that the panels from wm6.1 smartphone can't be installed on with wm6.1 professional?

[bram_smulders]

I already posted this question, but as it seems that all the wiz-kids of the touch community are gathered around here, I'm going to post the question again.
Is there no way that the panels from wm6.1 smartphone can't be installed on with wm6.1 professional?

No i think they cant, but we can recreate it for 6.1professional if we have a coder to do it?

hgr. bram

[Noonski]

Touch surface is back!

Guys, i'm out of my personal timelimits and completely focussed on xda again(with once in a while a look at my daughter offcourse!!)

There is much stuff happened the days i was offbut the past week i read me in about the touch diamond(hopefully my next device) and other good stuff.

What i also noticed is that on the elf(in) forum theres nothing really changed.
The same roms since i left, same software.

So my intention is to make a thread with a new and improved rom, made by me and you guys, about new software that we can implement.
Im talking about collaboration big time to get the elf forum back together, and provide u with the best possible roms!

To achieve this im opening appliances to this thread for interface designers, cooks, comedians(to keep the spirit high) and offcors ideas for the rom and software.

More updates on this thread coming today!

Gr. Bram Smulders

Ps. I want to thank everybody who donated me for a new touch, the money is spend well on a Mda touch white(elfin)

I'm with you there's just not enough time for me to Really work on everything i want to do in a rom anymore.

And you know i've been tired of working alone for quite a while now.

I'm still catching up a bit today. And getting myself a nice glass of Famous Grouse ;)
And my Next Device is going to be Raphael. I miss the keyboard and i want more storage then 4G.

My first idea, and it's just an idea is dump HTC home and replace it with a new Similar Batterystatus Home screen that can take up the whole home screen....

So since i don't want to go of cooking all weekend i will delve into that and hopefully present a proof of concept to show my point.

Another idea is to include a patched .dll file with custom icons to use in rom. Haven't seen this to much in touch roms made by XDA guys. Some other devices and PDAVIET use this method a lot.

[Ameet]

I'm with you there's just not enough time for me to Really work on everything i want to do in a rom anymore.

I'm still catching up a bit today. And getting myself a nixce glass of Famous Grouse ;)

hey noonski.. good to read from u after a long time.. how u been brother? this project is gonna be awesome with u a part ot it :) looking fwd to download from here :D

[Noonski]

hey noonski.. good to read from u after a long time.. how u been brother? this project is gonna be awesome with u a part ot it :) looking fwd to download from here :D

Well tell me what you think of these then..

I found some Diamond Clock Graphics but i didn't quite like them so i made my own version.

But doing great, nice to be back on a slow goodbey to ELF cooking basis.

I see you have been progressing with getting more and more curious.

O and i've included the Source PNG file with all layers for easy changing.

It was based on kidnamedAlbert (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=759566)'s version and Puma Numbers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2224201&postcount=1

[Ameet]

Well tell me what you think of these then..

I found some Diamond Clock Graphics but i didn't quite like them so i made my own version.

But doing great, nice to be back on a slow goodbey to ELF cooking basis.

I see you have been progressing with getting more and more curious.

looks awesome brother :D but doesnt diamond originaly have the digits in double nos? can we have that somehow? ;)

[Noonski]

looks awesome brother :D but doesnt diamond originaly have the digits in double nos? can we have that somehow? ;)

Nah unfortunatly the HTC home doesn't allow fow this. Unless you change the whole HTCHome background. And that is also shared by some other tabs.

[Ameet]

Nah unfortunatly the HTC home doesn't allow fow this. Unless you change the whole HTCHome background. It's do-able.

but wont some dll would need replacing too? i mean how would the device know which nos to combine in the dbl digit?

[Noonski]

but wont some dll would need replacing too? i mean how would the device know which nos to combine in the dbl digit?

I changed my statement ;)

BTW Can I Apply for all positions?

I updated the clock icons i wasn't happy with the rounded edges and made the numbers a bit smaller.

[Noonski]

I already posted this question, but as it seems that all the wiz-kids of the touch community are gathered around here, I'm going to post the question again.
Is there no way that the panels from wm6.1 smartphone can't be installed on with wm6.1 professional?

Nope Smartphone edidtion homescreem is completly build out of one XML file

as pocket PC is build up out of modules which can off course be XML.

So as i said before, if using only Battery status at the home screen it could indeed simulate that lay out.

Damn i forgot to add it to previous post....grrr this way the thread will become to long damn my addiction.

Has anyone seen a working Kaiser Dialer for Touch?
The one i used missed one button.. But it's the same as Diamond and graphics can be retouched to fit.
Unless Bram has another design plan in mind and would like to stick to a retouched touch dialer.

And another suggestion idea is to precook Mortscript.
Maybe you can start by making your touch surface on wm6.1?
I'm using your surface rom now for as long as I have my touch. Tried many other but al seem to lack some functionality (like dutch xt9).
Welcome back, by the way.

There is a SurfaCE vERSION ON wM6.1 GHEHEHE.

[Ameet]

I changed my statement ;)

BTW Can I Apply for all positions?

I updated the clock icons i wasn't happy with the rounded edges and made the numbers a bit smaller.

lol.. read ur revised statement.. curiousity is what has got me into cooking frenzy and come up with so many versions of roms :D

with u in all positions, this rom would be a perfect choice to blindly download and flash ;)

these images now look much better now.. did u find out about the home dll? it will be great if we could port the dbl digit system from diamond.. btw, i booked my diamond and expecting it by mid june.. then its all fun cooking more n more :D

[mushipkw]

Good to see u back. I was just thinking to exchange my Elf with Artemis only because all roms for Elf were anyways same.

[Noonski]

lol.. read ur revised statement.. curiousity is what has got me into cooking frenzy and come up with so many versions of roms :D

with u in all positions, this rom would be a perfect choice to blindly download and flash ;)

these images now look much better now.. did u find out about the home dll? it will be great if we could port the dbl digit system from diamond.. btw, i booked my diamond and expecting it by mid june.. then its all fun cooking more n more :D

I will delve into the art of designing a BTstatus Skin.
That's the only way to get a homescreen that can simulate Diamond more and have more funstinality then the regular HTCHome.
(and use loads less memory and have no animations)

But first i'm curious of What Dady-O has in mind.

[Re-Mi]

There is a SurfaCE vERSION ON wM6.1 GHEHEHE.

Noooo, there is :O

O wait, i knew that :P but it was to dirty to touch ;)


he he greetz,

[Noonski]

I'm liking this a lot in just one minute...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377627

400k is good.

[bram_smulders]

Hollareer @ my boy noonski!!

Id hope you will notice the thread and want to apply!
Ill make an exeption for you in the cook and design team, with you we are complete and ready to team up.
Tomorrow(sunday) ill unveil my plans and design style.

gr. bram

ps. typing this while feeding my daughter is very hard! :p

Btw? surface wm6.1? i didnt release that one?
must been some stupid ass copycat:P

[Noonski]

Typing this with a sore butt because of jumping on something painfull and a bottle of US Finest is also hard without spellcheck. I have to get back to my Richard Wolfson Quantum & relativity theory lectures now. I'm not going to explain why AlCoHOl is not a western word but comes from the golden age of islam when they perfected the art of distilling. Damn Those CopyCats, Without them there would be no XDA. Let it not be said the XDA is a bunch of Star Trek Geeks. Because It's Mostly "Where Other Men Have Gone Before, and then beyond"

Hey i get it now.... i'm supposed to be that funny guy!

And now the grand secret of my User Picture. It is Spider jerusalem From transmetropolitan. I once had a site transmetropolitan.tk where i wrote a few Columns as Spider Jerusalem with no objection of Waren Ellis. This was after i used Iframesin Emails which was then blocked by MS at the moment they actually wanted to take out the support of Iframes out of Internet Explorer. Good Thing they didn't or we'd be left without Ajax and Web 2.0. Because Loading Dynamic Content into iframes was something some people were doing 6 yers ago..man i hate code.

[bram_smulders]

Whuuuuuuuut?

glad to have you back noonski!
always wonderering who your avatar was... :p
and hey, copycats rule, its the basic foundation of xda!

now get back to bussiness guys!

gr bram

[Supercows]

I am still using your surface ROM! thx for that. :)

I would like to help testing your beta's!

[Noonski]

I Need Guidance and some good sleep damn it's hot.

Practicing little with the tools.
What was the Home screen backdrop size again?

Or maybe do something new with some Brushed Metal..

[nion]

only one question...

this new rom will be good for any htc touch (elf, elfin, dual, not dual, etc.)

best regards :)

[werffje]

Great bram 2 see you back,

at the moment I use a very old rom from xtriny (who disapeard) but what I found so nice on his rom is the way how the start button works. It's just like windows on the computer, touching programs doesn't open a new window but the menu slides out.. is that also possible in your new rom ??
I think it's called quickmenu ...

regards Marius

[Noonski]

I foresee a little problem.

And i foresee a good discussion.

And I foresee Different Graphical Flavours of one Rom.

I'm getting to like my new Setup more and more.

Maybe it'll spark some other great ideas.

As for Quickmenu,.. Bram has Veto as far as i'm concerned.
And i'm geussing he'd rather go for a fingerfriendlier solution like enlarged Start Menu.

I've been using Quickmenu in a very complete lay out and submenu structures.

But in actual Day To Day use, for a broader userbase Quickmenu loses to Enlarged Menu.

And hey if The rom does get Enlarged Start Menu,. i can always make a Cab to install in UC to disable enlarged menu and replace it with Quickmenu.

With more people breaking their brains on one ROM there should be plenty of time.

And personally i would say MMS 4 instead of 5, Unless you can make Quickmenu work completly with MMS 5 by sending MMS and SMS.

Clean the kitchen now, cheerz

[havocnl]

useless post:
noonski did you clean you kitchen yet ;)???

[bram_smulders]

Hi Guys,

It's been a while again. Within an hour i'll publish the plans for surface and we can all go cooking designing and bullshitting about the rom here.

gr. bram

[pkoper]

Bram,

any multilinguality planned? Could chip in with the german side of things...

Cheers

[bram_smulders]

Bram,

any multilinguality planned? Could chip in with the german side of things...

Cheers

Thats a good one, haven't thought about that, There was a dutch version planned but could also make other languages.

Gr. bram

ps. added to the crew

[bram_smulders]

Also have a 5GIG server, might make it easier exchanging files and publishing... rapidshare and co don't cut it.

I have a homeserver which contains about 1tb free space:) So exchanging files is not a problem.

I give you write and read permissions on the surface folder, su we can up and download as much as possible.

gr. bram

[Ameet]

I have a homeserver which contains about 1tb free space:) So exchanging files is not a problem.

I give you write and read permissions on the surface folder, su we can up and download as much as possible.

gr. bram

COOL!!! am so excited to be a part of this team of experts.. its an honor to b with u guys :) m sure this rom will be a huge success around here

[bram_smulders]

heey ameet,

You have ported a clean wm 6.1 am i right?

could you upload it to rapidshare or something(must arrange my server) so i can post the rom on my site to work on?

and offcourse the crew works with the same port.

gr. b

[Ameet]

heey ameet,

You have ported a clean wm 6.1 am i right?

could you upload it to rapidshare or something(must arrange my server) so i can post the rom on my site to work on?

and offcourse the crew works with the same port.

gr. b

hey bram.. i have ported the wm6.1 from diamond and xperia (19949) latest.. and my roms are ultra clean (meaning, almost all the oem packages are removed) these roms are uploaded in my rapidshare folder ;)

if required, i can still port a complete wm6.1 sys (without removing anything) the oem will be from my elfin (coz i dont have any other device)

[bram_smulders]

hey bram.. i have ported the wm6.1 from diamond and xperia (19949) latest.. and my roms are ultra clean (meaning, almost all the oem packages are removed) these roms are uploaded in my rapidshare folder ;)

if required, i can still port a complete wm6.1 sys (without removing anything) the oem will be from my elfin (coz i dont have any other device)

Hey ameet,

Good idea, Please upload the full oem and sys folders so we can edit them to our likings.
I'll download the clean base asap.

Gr. bram

[Ameet]

Hey ameet,

Good idea, Please upload the full oem and sys folders so we can edit them to our likings.
I'll download the clean base asap.

Gr. bram

:) what i'll do is tonight, i'll upload the complete oem folder dumped from my stock rom and sys folder ported for elfins based on the xperia 19915 build (this needs some cpl tweaking to work) i'll include a readme for that

[bram_smulders]

:) what i'll do is tonight, i'll upload the complete oem folder dumped from my stock rom and sys folder ported for elfins based on the xperia 19915 build (this needs some cpl tweaking to work) i'll include a readme for that

Is cool, i'll prepare my server tonight so i can upload these things.

gr. bram

[jgoldstein]

Dudes can we include a six sided custom designed cube into this rom?? Also do you think we can develop a quick contacts with photos that flips like the album covers on the iphone or ipod touch??

Im a newbee to all this but aam willing to help all da way, so dudes if you have any crash courses on rom cooking etc.. am willing to take and assist in any way!!

[jgoldstein]

Again dudes, dya think its possible to steal some of the androids interfaces, the startup (today screen) is simply amazing!! i know its linux and shit, but i still cant grasp why we cant create an executable that runs on startup as a film over the today screen and gives the functionality and flow mobility of the android, specially that it doesnt include any 3D grafix and manipulations, also am willing to work on that if you guys just point me to the right track!!

Cant wait for your ROM!

[Sisqo]

i wan't wait also, your work it's highly appreciated!

[Ameet]

just my 2 cents in design.. i think this will really leave our signature in the rom ;)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=90570&stc=1&d=1212672689

i'll test this file tonight and report if it works :D

[Biffert]

Wow guys, great plans you got there :) Cant wait for the results!

Btw, I love that colorscheme in the logo. Is that going to be the scheme of the ROM as wel?

[Noonski]

Greenish it is.

Which probably means it's going to be as Original As Possible So Android Cloning or Diamond Cloning doesn't look like another option.

But at least i got's me a start BTW i'm going to cheat a little ;)
But i'll keep that a secret for now.

I allready have a small idea for some Icons. Play tonight.
Facinated By Fractals..

[pkoper]

Hey... no cheating here!

[swordfish2009]

man.. looks promising...

[werffje]

little idea for the background...

[havocnl]

Hey Bram,

Good to see everything starting up :)
At home i'm no starting with my final thesis/research for my education, so only time now (officially) in the evenings to do stuff for myself. Well officially, since i'm doing a desk research mostly based at my desk at home ;) sooo maybe my breaks will be a bit longer then usual....

But what might be of help to you is that I am officially a software developer (finished Information Technologies (Technische Informatica) in 2007). So maybe my background can help you a bit. And now I work at the Fontys HBO (bachelor) and i'm helping creating a minor program on mobile computing and doing some small research into developing for mobile applications (so the windows mobile 6 SDK is installed on my laptop) and tend on using my touch as test device (we might also buy some TyTN II's). But if you need a coder or debugger for some things, give me a holler!

The new logo is really nice, I like it :D Will green be the color (next to gray/black)??? Or will there be a completely different look and feel???
I am currently using this home "skin" from focal design: LINK (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364712)
The Focaldesign2 is the one i am using, and i am really a fan of it interface wise, tabs with big buttons, and a middle part that can slide, where also additional home plugins can be loaded. Maybe something to consider for the new rom??? The software is called UltimateLaunch, down part is.... it's not free...

Havocnl

P.S. forgot that my phone was still SIM locked... so haven't changed the SIMs yet so not ready for testing....
P.P.S. is there gonna be one central depository for files online somewhere? can an SVN server be helpful for developing ROMS??? maybe thats an idea? But what i'm pointing at, how will versioning take place ;)?

[havocnl]

little idea for the background...
oeh me likes :D

[Noonski]

Fractal HTC Home Icon Set Concept.


Removed it, don't know how public Bram wants to be.

Feck It Fractal Icon Set in Action Mock Up.

Just trowing up some ideas..

Maybe Less Green in The Splatter

[werffje]

Maybe use #98f000 for some more strong green....

Also maybe a cleaner background makes the visability better... ??

[cstewart]

Maybe use #98f000 for some more strong green....

Also maybe a cleaner background makes the visibility better... ??

I am in complete agreement on a very clean = not busy background. Too much action on the background visually obscures the message. The new diamond background is a good example of subtle background detail that does not conflict with the screen content.

[Noonski]

I agree on the Backdrop for some. But i'm using The Green from Bram's first Pic. I might change the curves around a bit. But I think the Softer not to chemical Green feels nice he chose.

For now personally i like the artsy look on my home.

So i've reused the backdrop in something else.

in aaaahhh.

What i again call a quick and dirty job.

S2P Surface Wasabi Attached.

(Might refert back to normal coloured play and pause buttons but i have to at least fill them in better, but it's getting to late for detail)

Yes Yes i'm taking it easy, just getting familiar with the tools again.. Mostly roughs.

And yes i am pushing S2L/V/P.

I still don't know why HTC Audiomanager is loved. I can't say it's bad because i simply never used it.
Well i did but it took some time to load so i gave up;)

No Bloat but usefull simple apps.
You can trade in two HTC apps and get three A_C apps back and still have more space left and less files in Rom.
(And My God i never tried removing PIMG from Rom)

And i'm going to Check Out the Sleek Throttle Launcher to.

[Ameet]

just my 2 cents in design.. i think this will really leave our signature in the rom

i'll test this file tonight and report if it works :D

tried tested and flashed as suggested :D it works like a charm and i think it will be a touch surface signature in the ROM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=90784&stc=1&d=1212729864

[Re-Mi]

And i'm going to Check Out the Sleek Throttle Launcher to.

That's one app i would like to see as a main "os" but i think it's not 100% bulletproof if you get my point.

But the new sleek one is nice :D

I think throttle is one app that has the "wow" effect and still isn't to bloated yet. And one huge point it's fully customiseble. so we can design our "own" os .:D

so yeah, if we took a 3rd party app for the main screen throttle has a +1 from my side.

greetz,

[bram_smulders]

tried tested and flashed as suggested :D it works like a charm and i think it will be a touch surface signature in the ROM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=90784&stc=1&d=1212729864

This is great! how did you do this?
can you make a pckage for it?

gr, b

ps. to everyone whos posting graphics,this thread is an open thread so you can post everything you want.

[Noonski]

That's one app i would like to see as a main "os" but i think it's not 100% bulletproof if you get my point.

But the new sleek one is nice :D

I think throttle is one app that has the "wow" effect and still isn't to bloated yet. And one huge point it's fully customiseble. so we can design our "own" os .:D

so yeah, if we took a 3rd party app for the main screen throttle has a +1 from my side.

greetz,

Yup Definitly not 100% BUlletProof on Throtle Launcher. Got quuite a few Resets with it and mad error frenzy using Gullum's Skin.

But maybe try some different skins.

[Ameet]

This is great! how did you do this?
can you make a pckage for it?

gr, b

ps. to everyone whos posting graphics,this thread is an open thread so you can post everything you want.

there's no cab file for it :) its an edited mui file.. i'm uploading the rom contents as u suggested and i have included these signature files too as a template for the cooking team (which can remain only with the cooking team to prevent editing ;))

will pm u the link once uploaded

[GForce]

I think it would be soooo great to start from the HTC Diamond ROM... Make it smoothly working on the Elf, add a few interesting programs & I think you guys have a very great ROM!

[bram_smulders]

there's no cab file for it :) its an edited mui file.. i'm uploading the rom contents as u suggested and i have included these signature files too as a template for the cooking team (which can remain only with the cooking team to prevent editing ;))

will pm u the link once uploaded

Hey Ameet, thnx for the Files that you send us, So the mui from device info you an add pictures to it?
Cool:P
So the mui file in the base rom had this sig already?

Upload it soon as possible to my server.

gr. bram

[bram_smulders]

I think it would be soooo great to start from the HTC Diamond ROM... Make it smoothly working on the Elf, add a few interesting programs & I think you guys have a very great ROM!

This aint a diamond rip-off, this ROM is gonna be custom build, so whole new style here.

gr. bram

[Ameet]

Hey Ameet, thnx for the Files that you send us, So the mui from device info you an add pictures to it?
Cool:P
So the mui file in the base rom had this sig already?

Upload it soon as possible to my server.

gr. bram

:) the mui is from the sys folder.. i included the modified mui in the file i sent u.. what is ur server address? i didnt have it so i uploaded and sent u guys the rapidshare link

[bram_smulders]

:) the mui is from the sys folder.. i included the modified mui in the file i sent u.. what is ur server address? i didnt have it so i uploaded and sent u guys the rapidshare link

Must prepare the server for you guys, install ftp manager and such.
Think today the server is gonna be ready.

With wich program you edit the mui files, I had once a program called reshacker but cant find it anymore.

gr. bram

[havocnl]

Maybe use #98f000 for some more strong green....

Also maybe a cleaner background makes the visability better... ??

This logo really reminds me of the logo of one of my favorite sites Tweakers.net (Dutch Site) See the attachment ;)

[Ameet]

Must prepare the server for you guys, install ftp manager and such.
Think today the server is gonna be ready.

With wich program you edit the mui files, I had once a program called reshacker but cant find it anymore.

gr. bram

i use reshack.. found in hypercore.. here u go for ease.. wen ur server's up, let us know how to access it ;)

[bram_smulders]

Hey ameet, thnx for reshacker,

But i thought the hypercore kitchen didnt work with wm6.1?
I think ive been away to long and dont know how to cook anymore:p

gr. bram

[pkoper]

Hey ameet, thnx for reshacker,

But i thought the hypercore kitchen didnt work with wm6.1?
I think ive been away to long and dont know how to cook anymore:p

gr. bram
Hey Bram,

it does work with 6.1... My Pinot Rom was cooked with it.

cheers

[bram_smulders]

Hey Bram,

it does work with 6.1... My Pinot Rom was cooked with it.

cheers

haha, okay, i'll dive into it.
Mayb it's smart to set up a kitchen(hypercore, bepes, whatever) wich we all use and fermillair with, Think ameet has his kitchen already set up(sincy hes reshacking and provided us with the base rom).
So is it smart to use his kitchen?

gr. bram

[Ameet]

Hey ameet, thnx for reshacker,

But i thought the hypercore kitchen didnt work with wm6.1?
I think ive been away to long and dont know how to cook anymore:p

gr. bram
i havent tried cooking in hypercore since that kitchen has tadzio's tools which compresses the rom.. tried cooking for my earlier device and it didnt work, so never tried it again..

it does work with 6.1... My Pinot Rom was cooked with it
hey pk. hypercore works for elfin roms? i mean the exe and dlls are optimised in the rom so the reduced size.. please confirm.. if it does then suddenly an idea struck me **cough* secret *cough** ;) for now till i test the idea on my device

[Noonski]

REsHack Rules. I Use it for everything that i don't like.
But never took on that MUI.

Now Some Correct Exe Signer that's easy to use ;).

To Saw that Broken Exe up again.

But Bepe's Kitchen does really provide a better finished Job.

But we can do comparisons, and i do miss the Core A Bit.

[bram_smulders]

Indeed reshacker Rulez!!
Had that prog always in my kitchen but somehow i lost it and didn't find it back.

[pkoper]

A signer would be great...

I cooked several roms for elf and elfin with the hypercore...

Ameet, its what I asked yesterday.... hypercore uses files wheras bepe requires the modules.

Hope i did not get that one wrong.

[Noonski]

The thing is there's a signer in Hypercore but it doesn't always give the expected result. Like patched DLL files crashing the Application it uses grng.

[Ameet]

A signer would be great...

I cooked several roms for elf and elfin with the hypercore...

Ameet, its what I asked yesterday.... hypercore uses files wheras bepe requires the modules.

Hope i did not get that one wrong.

ohh. i c.. thts maybe coz tadzio's tools dumps the xip in files and xipport dumps in modules.. hmm.. i'll test tadzio's tools and check.. i'll rather stick to bepe's kitchen coz i dont like the complexity of hypercore (its only the imgfs tools which manages the entire show, rest all is only the batch files which automates) ;)

[Noonski]

Remind me to upload the .net 3.5 package when i'm home.

This stil has 2.0

I haven't tried 3.5 yet anyone had any experience.

I read it does have some speed improvements but i've also read about some decrease in speed.. !?

And it needs some 96 dpi for QVGA. Even if the 192 work they will consume more memory because the contain larger iconsets embedded etc

[Ameet]

Remind me to upload the .net 3.5 package when i'm home.

This stil has 2.0

I haven't tried 3.5 yet anyone had any experience.

I read it does have some speed improvements but i've also read about some decrease in speed.. !?

And it needs some 96 dpi for QVGA. Even if the 192 work they will consume more memory because the contain larger iconsets embedded etc

i do use 3.5 and it is fast.. i mean speeds up the system a bit :) its not included in the files coz those re from the shipped sys ;)

[jgoldstein]

Hi Dudes, cant wait to get my hands on ur ROM!! Green is super cool!!!

in the elf upgrade forum some guys are talking about the touchflo 2 available on the touch dual! it has some extra functions in oulook and explorer, dya think we can have this in your rom??

[Ameet]

Hi Dudes, cant wait to get my hands on ur ROM!! Green is super cool!!!

in the elf upgrade forum some guys are talking about the touchflo 2 available on the touch dual! it has some extra functions in oulook and explorer, dya think we can have this in your rom??

can u post the link to that forum.. we'll see what we can do ;)

[Noonski]

Uploaded Merged Auto Update Folder & BaseAppFiles from new Build.
New UID numbers and smaller rebuild DSM's and option XML file added, PROVXML files merged.

Why?
Keeping it Clean.
If using Bepe's Kitchen it doesn't really matter that much.
But in HyperCore after running mreloc again you gain 0.00000023 % speed and space.
Sycho Noonski hits. Nah this just keeps the Cooking Folder Emptier that's all.

Nothing drastic, who wants to spellcheck my work?

[Ameet]

Uploaded Merged Auto Update Folder & BaseAppFiles from new Build.
New UID numbers and smaller rebuild DSM's and option XML file added, PROVXML files merged.

Why?
Keeping it Clean.
If using Bepe's Kitchen it doesn't really matter that much.
But in HyperCore after running mreloc again you gain 0.00000023 % speed and space.
Sycho Noonski hits. Nah this just keeps the Cooking Folder Emptier that's all.

Nothing drastic, who wants to spellcheck my work?

haha.. noonski strikes back.. ;) i'm trying to change the icons in programs and settings.. dont know which dll to edit.. hunting & hunting.. :)

[pkoper]

You should check piranha's icons in our diamond touch rom.. He can do up some nice ones

[Noonski]

Hey funny i just made a seprate Icon dll (it comes from Fully stripped Shellres.96.dll)
remove the .zip extension.

It's not yet resigned yet, but who cares as it's not being called by any application ;).

And i'm not sure which icons you want to change, but it's safer to have a sepret icon repository and not replace the resources in system files.

So then you either change the shortcut to add surface icon or the registry (in case of control panel icons)

Have to look up the size for the big Program icon size.
But for now i only added one icon (it needs at least one) in 16x16 and 32x32 256 colours

[Ameet]

Hey funny i just made a seprate Icon dll (it comes from Fully stripped Shellres.96.dll)
remove the .zip extension.

It's not yet resigned yet, but who cares as it's not being called by any application ;).

And i'm not sure which icons you want to change, but it's safer to have a sepret icon repository and not replace the resources in system files.

So then you either change the shortcut to add surface icon or the registry (in case of control panel icons)

Have to look up the size for the big Program icon size.
But for now i only added one icon (it needs at least one) in 16x16 and 32x32 256 colours

got ur file ;) but never done it before, so would need some basic directions.. tried hungting the reg entries for changing icons in settings but couldnt find any.. rest all the shortcuts are manageable

[Noonski]

Well changing the Settings icons is indeed a bit tricky,

But test this one
HKLM\Controlpanel\WrlsMgr
Redirect="\Windows\ShortcutToSettingWithAddedNewIcon.lnk"

But this might not work and give an error when clicking on the shortcut.

You can test this in live ROM but need to restart for it to take effect.

(there was another way but have to look that up)
Something with making a new :RAI object and linking to that in the control panel.

Jup your right have to rebuild the DLL at home removed one resource to much .

[Ameet]

Well changing the Settings icons is indeed a bit tricky,

But test this one
HKLM\Controlpanel\WrlsMgr
Redirect="\Windows\ShortcutToSettingWithAddedNewIcon.lnk"

But this might not work and give an error when clicking on the shortcut.

You can test this in live ROM but need to restart for it to take effect.

(there was another way but have to look that up)
Something with making a new :RAI object and linking to that in the control panel.

Jup your right have to rebuild the DLL at home removed one resource to much .

the new icon link might not work.. but will test it later n report ;)

right now tried cooking the rom with the unodified sys and oem folders (on xperia's 19915 build) with ur autoupdate and baseapps files packages.. the size is now 69mb approx.. i suggest we remove the unnecesary items to keep it within 50mb (or lesser, then hex edit it to make 50mb) what say?

[Noonski]

That's where the fighting begins and Bram Get's the Veto.

What Gets Removed and what stays.

I know i always remove stuff like welcome center and disable SAPsettings.

But in a Wide Rom the question would be "Does someone that has enough smarts to read up a little bit on flashing before actually doing so need it?"

Well i know some people that need SAPsettings and i also know people that let others flash their phone and would need Welcome center.

I do however not know anyone that needs SQM or AutoUpdate.

Upload the 69 MB version and let's just see if we can find any weirdness.

[Ameet]

That's where the fighting begins and Bram Get's the Veto.

What Gets Removed and what stays.

I know i always remove stuff like welcome center and disable SAPsettings.

But in a Wide Rom the question would be "Does someone that has enough smarts to read up a little bit on flashing before actually doing so need it?"

Well i know some people that need SAPsettings and i also know people that let others flash their phone and would need Welcome center.

I do however not know anyone that needs SQM or AutoUpdate.

Upload the 69 MB version and let's just see if we can find any weirdness.

:D ofcrse bram has the last word :D it was just my 2 cents.. i'll upload the nb file.. i'll cook it seperately coz in bepe's kitchen the rom cant be repacked :rolleyes: (i love it though)

so its easier for u guys to check the contents

[werffje]

isn't there a option that a user can select which program or options he want or doesn't want to install ? just like a vista version which asks what you want to install or not?

Just a note i'm not a cook and so I don't know whats possible and what not....

I also never used autoupdate...

[Ameet]

isn't there a option that a user can select which program or options he want or doesn't want to install ? just like a vista version which asks what you want to install or not?

Just a note i'm not a cook and so I don't know whats possible and what not....

I also never used autoupdate...

its a good suggestion and we shall surely look into making this as an option ;) will put it forth to bram for approval

[werffje]

I also don't know if there is an option that the programs or settings that you don't use will be deleted, I know the less program and storage memory the better....

[Piranha1]

Hi Ameet pkoper has call me.I have the icon,and the links in one rar. for you.And nice to see you Noonskie and ReMi.

[Ameet]

Hi Ameet pkoper has call me.I have the icon,and the links in one rar. for you.And nice to see you Noonskie and ReMi.

Folder Icons (http://www.ppc.c180.de/Piranha/icon.rar)

hey thnx a million brother.. can i pm u in case if i need some help?

[Piranha1]

no Problem :D

[bram_smulders]

Guys, i blocked all you privileges on the server, untill there is a good structure of maps in it. all you uploaded stuff is in the "uploaded stuff"folder.

Tomorrow you guys can get into the server again, and upload things.

Before we gona cook a rom we need to discuss about how the rom must look like, i know you guys are anxious to start but we need a good preparation.

When the server is up ill post a list of apps/tweaks that i want to have in the rom, you guys can edit the list to you likings. Convince me why we should do it different!

Then we can start cooking.!

Gr. bram

[werffje]

Good idea,

I like a glossy black with "your" green look,

I hope you put the most used apps in it, like quickmenu and the photo contact which is also used on the iphone...

I'm looking forward to your list :)

[Noonski]

Good i need to rest my mind a bit,

Watch some Google Talks Lectures and fall asleep.

[tdot]

oh my god! this team is awesome!
best wishes and i'll see hopefully forward to the first NEW surface rom...

Germany loves you guys! :)

greets

[Re-Mi]

Hey Guys,

To make the rom meets everyone's taste i saw some talking about UC but there is an other program i want you all to see, i already discussed it with Pkoper some time ago.

And if i read the description of the Tier autoinstall, i think it's posible for Our customers to put the cab files they want in a specific folder and install them on the rom setup.

here is the link (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2:PPC%20Apps&Itemid=2)

btw this one is also interesting, but i think most of you already know this one

link (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1:tdial-designer&catid=1:Desktop&Itemid=3)

I must say Tiemann made a couple of nice apps.

Greetz,

[khizar79]

Some Suggestion

A FLV player is must. TCPMP or any other plugin for FLV to work with media player. Some of the feature of S2U2 application. Its a big application for ELF user. Features like Full screen picture display for incoming call. And the auto screen/device off during the call. I just use the S2U2 only for these two feature, don't like to unlock the device every time by sliding the fingure.

[Noonski]

Hey Guys,

To make the rom meets everyone's taste i saw some talking about UC but there is an other program i want you all to see, i already discussed it with Pkoper some time ago.

And if i read the description of the Tier autoinstall, i think it's posible for Our customers to put the cab files they want in a specific folder and install them on the rom setup.

here is the link (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2:PPC%20Apps&Itemid=2)

btw this one is also interesting, but i think most of you already know this one

link (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1:tdial-designer&catid=1:Desktop&Itemid=3)

I must say Tiemann made a couple of nice apps.

Greetz,

Nope didn't know the dialer making App that does make life a bit easier.

My two cents on UC replacement.

UC has been gethering a big following on XDA and i know that if you build it in and don't use it the end user won't be bothered by it. I would stick to UC. And i haven't looked op the thread but there was a tool to use on the phone in development to. But the Tier Autoinstall (http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2:PPC%20Apps&Itemid=2)does look easy in use. But a downer would be that if someone that doesn't know what is going on after flash suddenly gets this question about cabs ans starts installing away filling his phone memory up. Because i think everyone has some Cabs on the root of SD. And at least one Cab will be in Windows memory (to fix Reg settings that don't want to stick after flash)

Bram can you Up the tool you use to make TSK's?
the one i'm using isn't cutting it.
I think i have two Surface's now.
I'll leave it to you to come up with the definete TSK and maybe an extra one.
But 4 new Custom TSK's shouldn't be to hard on Rom Memory.

I've been working on the HTC Home graphics to be Useable with darker and lighter TSK's. And it is different.

Damn it's hard finding something that is'nt to OFF for the eye.

Again if TCPMP doesn't make the Rom Memory. It can be UC-ed to SD ;)
But it is better to have TCPMP in ROM memory because working from SD you have a bigger change at stutters.

And i do indeed like S2 apps from A_C His Picures app is smaller then HTC Album And the same goes for his S2P compared to Audio manager. And S2U changes the useblility in a friendly understandable way so that any user that doesn't know it can easily understand how it works without esxplanation.

I'm curious about Bram's view on these.

But the Brushed Metal Surface thme is getting to me, and from a lazy viewpoint it is easy to skin the other apps with.

[nion]

only one question...

this new rom will be good for any htc touch (elf, elfin, dual, not dual, etc.)

best regards :)

no answares??

please :o

[Ameet]

no answares??

please :o

we re working on it brother.. lets c how things come up ;)

[Noonski]

Okay i'll be nice.

It will be ELF and ELFIN as usual on this forum ELF thread.

But why anwser if there is no Rom right.

Still playing around untill i can get a better feeling of Bram's Ideas.

Font is Kozuka Gothic Pro for Clock.

Let's hope Bram comes up with something better this is going nowhere with me.

Does anyone have the HTC Home DLL files for the official Wasabi Green version?
Or does anyone know how to get another HTC Home Media Player Tab Font Colour?

[Ameet]

no Problem :D

hey piranha, noonski.. i finally changed the icons and the start menu with its name.. check the screenshots.. didnt add any dll file but edit the res file, thats it.. simple.. i think we can use this concept to make touch surface our signature rom with our icons (if bram approves ofcrse..)

somebody please make the icons and images, we gonna need them if bram agrees

[Piranha1]

Looks cool.:D i have the same file open.(shellres.96.dll) Look here when you search Icons. http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/icons/os/win/ And this is the best icon editor and its free.:) http://icofx.ro/.And outres.dll (SYS\Redistis)is for the Calendar,Contakts and Task.

[Ameet]

Looks cool.:D i have the same file open.(shellres.96.dll) Look here when you search Icons. http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/icons/os/win/ And this is the best icon editor and its free.:) http://icofx.ro/

the icons on that site are cool.. i am using icofx (find it very reliable) ;)

[holodila]

Well, I'm very far from cooking, but I can do the russian translation if you want))

[Noonski]

Yes edit the res is the easy way.

As long as you replace with the correct icon size, but replace the incorrect icon and you will be scratching your head with weird bugs.

Don't forget you are patching a system dll and signing it with a non original MS signature.

See it as a challenge findingthe hard way, because it is possible without using reshack on shellres ;)

But it is indeed the only way to change the start icon unfortunatly.

[Ameet]

And outres.dll (SYS\Redistis)is for the Calendar,Contakts and Task.

:D already checked this.. couldnt find any good icons for these thts why i didnt edit these ;)

[jgoldstein]

Hi Again,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343373

Found the forum that explains bout the touchflo 2 found on the touch dual, i think it would be a kickass addition to the ROM, hope u can extract it !! it doesnt only include the image viewer but also change from an sms to another in outlook by swiping, just watch the video and tell me if possible to extract and apply in you rom!! good luck!

If you dont mind im also working on some grafix that ill give you soon for you to check out!!

[jgoldstein]

Also Dudes, we need a fast dialer, maybe the new diamond dialer with a new skin!! cuz all elfs have a lag time when you try to dial!!

[jgoldstein]

IS it possible to have an animated background, if so just tell me thats it is and ill work on either a flash or animated Gif that will blow ur minds away!! just tell me if its possible!!:D

[Noonski]

Has anyone seen a QVGA version of the new Volumeslider?

Couldn't find the background BMP in any of the files..

[pkoper]

This one is nice for converting http://emerym.homeip.net/rlToday/upload.cgi

and see attached.... just rename to .rar

[Noonski]

Doesn't Convert Exe and DLL files ;)

Still handy.

And finally found this little thing i never had the time to implement.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:M SStart
"BKBitmapFile" = "\\windows\\stonehenge.gif"
"BKBitmapTransparent" = dword:FF00FF
"BKFlags" = dword:1a
"GridView" = dword:1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:M SStart\Games
"BKBitmapFile" = "\\windows\\bliss.gif"
"BKBitmapTransparent" = dword:FF00FF
"BKFlags" = dword:1a
"GridView" = dword:0

It's for Standard Smartphones but never tested it on PPC.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395829

Nice to see someone continued this.

[pkoper]

What does it do?

[Straetmans]

Has anyone seen a QVGA version of the new Volumeslider?

Couldn't find the background BMP in any of the files..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395695

This one seems to be QVGA, because in the todo list stands to make it compatible with VGA.

[Noonski]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395695

This one seems to be QVGA, because in the todo list stands to make it compatible with VGA.

Yes i saw that one. Pkoper posted it. But i meant the original Diamond slider.

I read Dutty has an unpublished version of a patched vga version.

What does it do?

It enables you to use a background picture inside the Program files folder and subfolders.
But this is for Standard Smartphone.

Tested it didn't work let's restart.

[Timminater]

maybe create a animated own waitcursor out of the new logo for this rom??
something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317476

i can make the animated icon if you like, but i can't edit dll files to include it, or anyone must point me in the right direction....

[Noonski]

maybe create a animated own waitcursor out of the new logo for this rom??
something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317476

i can make the animated icon if you like, but i can't edit dll files to include it, or anyone must point me in the right direction....

That shouldn't be to hard.

Decompile the Marshal cab then reshack the file. (i thought it had 16 frames in total) I can use flash to calculate the needed frames using a tween.

Attached is the 16 frame sequence in 32 by 32. They need to be converted and then cwitched in any Marshall waiting cursor. (gehehe nope not in the OS original file)

Who wants to test the Waiting Cursor?
(yes i'm going to test it but the rom i was running allready had a Replaced Waiting cursor so i ned to flash to another first.)
maybe create a animated own waitcursor out of the new logo for this rom??
something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317476

i can make the animated icon if you like, but i can't edit dll files to include it, or anyone must point me in the right direction....

Sorry for stealing your icon making job, but i'm an addict when it comes to doing something right away;)
It was a great idea.

I made a Flash movie with 17 frames.
Every 4 frames i rotated 90 degrees and the last 5 i also rotated 90 degrees. then i entered a new keyframe at frame 16 and then removed frame 17.

Made a movie export to BMP seqeunce at 32 by 32 pixels.

Opened shellres.96.dll.temp.mui in Reshack and replaced the first 16 bitmaps.
Resaved and replaced the MUI.

But i seem to have forotten one thing....
Signing it.
Can anyone help me out with that i'm going to sleep.

Remove the .zip from shellres.96.dll.temp.mui.zip

Removed the files found the issue in incorrect bitdepth and DPI for the bmp files.

[Ameet]

That shouldn't be to hard.

Decompile the Marshal cab then reshack the file. (i thought it had 16 frames in total) I can use flash to calculate the needed frames using a tween.

Attached is the 16 frame sequence in 32 by 32. They need to be converted and then cwitched in any Marshall waiting cursor. (gehehe nope not in the OS original file)

Who wants to test the Waiting Cursor?
(yes i'm going to test it but the rom i was running allready had a Replaced Waiting cursor so i ned to flash to another first.)


Sorry for stealing your icon making job, but i'm an addict when it comes to doing something right away;)
It was a great idea.

I made a Flash movie with 17 frames.
Every 4 frames i rotated 90 degrees and the last 5 i also rotated 90 degrees. then i entered a new keyframe at frame 16 and then removed frame 17.

Made a movie export to BMP seqeunce at 32 by 32 pixels.

Opened shellres.96.dll.temp.mui in Reshack and replaced the first 16 bitmaps.
Resaved and replaced the MUI.

But i seem to have forotten one thing....
Signing it.
Can anyone help me out with that i'm going to sleep.

Remove the .zip from shellres.96.dll.temp.mui.zip

i changed my icons, waiting cursor, edited the about screen and lot more dlls, exe, and mui files, but i didnt need the signer :eek: just edited those files, coked and flashed them up.. it worked.. i didnt add any dll icon files (just edited the original files) wanted to keep the rom clean.. :)

[Noonski]

i changed my icons, waiting cursor, edited the about screen and lot more dlls, exe, and mui files, but i didnt need the signer :eek: just edited those files, coked and flashed them up.. it worked.. i didnt add any dll icon files (just edited the original files) wanted to keep the rom clean.. :)

What i'm trying to say is that that is indeed a working solution.

But it only takes 1 incorrect byte in a system dll to start causing issues from small to big. Take the dissapearing Close button boundary from TouchCP for instance.

Or your Start menu that only appears after you click on it.

Or i have some examples where the Top bar status icons completly dissapear because i replaced the 32X32 icons with 34X34 icons. BTW i removed the graphics, they needed to be in 16 bits 96 dpi.

Maybe you have a better vesion of Reshack. But reshack removes the official MS signature from the DLL.
Because most of us disable security checks in winmobile and also make it accept unsigned apps the dll's get accepted..
So on the outside everything looks fine. But the file is still different in size because it doesn't have the signature.

If you use PEexplorer for instance, it will leave the signature in, but then you still need to check that the file retains the exact byte count.

Attached the flash file and the converted Exported bmp files in 32 32 16 bit.

[Ameet]

What i'm trying to say is that that is indeed a working solution.

But it only takes 1 incorrect byte in a system dll to start causing issues from small to big. Take the dissapearing Close button boundary from TouchCP for instance.

Or your Start menu that only appears after you click on it.

Or i have some examples where the Top bar status icons completly dissapear because i replaced the 32X32 icons with 34X34 icons. BTW i removed the graphics, they needed to be in 16 bits 96 dpi.

Maybe you have a better vesion of Reshack. But reshack removes the official MS signature from the DLL.
Because most of us disable security checks in winmobile and also make it accept unsigned apps the dll's get accepted..
So on the outside everything looks fine. But the file is still different in size because it doesn't have the signature.

If you use PEexplorer for instance, it will leave the signature in, but then you still need to check that the file retains the exact byte count.

Attached the flash file and the converted Exported bmp files in 32 32 16 bit.


hmm.. i never thought about the reshack version ;) actually i re check my uce rom and you were right about the custtsk.exe error (that coz i accidently removed that file and later forgot to add while cooking) thanx for the tip :D but the start menu icon shows up on my device the moment sdautorun is complete :eek: the icons and bitmaps that i changed in the dll and exe and mui files are the exact size as existing (32x32 8bit) and (16x16 8bit) although i would like to know further from u how did u manage to get the 16bit icons to work.. i wanna do the 16bit icons too, they look cool.. finally when i saved the files the size was an exact match.. i used icofx to edit the icons (delete the additional sizings)

also can u tell me if i add one more dll file with only the custom icons keeping the existing dlls unchanged, how do i change the reference for the files to use icons from my custom dll file?

p.s. the cursor is AWESOME brother :D but just my 2 cents again, wont it look good with a white bg?

[Noonski]

hmm.. i never thought about the reshack version ;) actually i re check my uce rom and you were right about the custtsk.exe error (that coz i accidently removed that file and later forgot to add while cooking) thanx for the tip :D but the start menu icon shows up on my device the moment sdautorun is complete :eek: the icons and bitmaps that i changed in the dll and exe and mui files are the exact size as existing (32x32 8bit) and (16x16 8bit) although i would like to know further from u how did u manage to get the 16bit icons to work.. i wanna do the 16bit icons too, they look cool.. finally when i saved the files the size was an exact match.. i used icofx to edit the icons (delete the additional sizings)

also can u tell me if i add one more dll file with only the custom icons keeping the existing dlls unchanged, how do i change the reference for the files to use icons from my custom dll file?

p.s. the cursor is AWESOME brother :D but just my 2 cents again, wont it look good with a white bg?

The wait cursor doesn't support transparancy unfortunatly.

And since there's a big opening in the middle i think whit would stand out to much.

Well i have been braking my head trying to change control panel icons and did not find any variation that worked.

So to change Control panel icons and startmenu icons the only way is to use reshack.

But for other folder icons and short cuts
you use
69#"\Windows\something.exe" 2?\windows\My.dll,-4609

icon.lnk for folder icons
69#My.dll,-4609

When i extracted the original BMP files from the dll and checked the properties it said 16 bit so i kept it at that. But it might indeed be that they should actually be 8 i'll test in 14 hours.

I gots my wizard back from friend so i got secondary device now.

[Ameet]

The wait cursor doesn't support transparancy unfortunatly.

And since there's a big opening in the middle i think whit would stand out to much.

Well i have been braking my head trying to change control panel icons and did not find any variation that worked.

So to change Control panel icons and startmenu icons the only way is to use reshack.

But for other folder icons and short cuts
you use
69#"\Windows\something.exe" 2?\windows\My.dll,-4609

icon.lnk for folder icons
69#My.dll,-4609

When i extracted the original BMP files from the dll and checked the properties it said 16 bit so i kept it at that. But it might indeed be that they should actually be 8 i'll test in 14 hours.

I gots my wizard back from friend so i got secondary device now.

folders and shortcuts icons is kinda easy to change but its only the control panel or application icons that takes time ;) attached some screenshots which works well using reshack (but need to extract each icon to make sure i have the right resolution in new icon)

[bram_smulders]

Hey guys, im back from a weekend full with psrtys, soccer and a lot of beer!

getting back to busiiness, today!
@ noonski:

nice one on the wait cursor! If you make an oem pack for it and load it up toningt to the server(putting it online this afternoon)


gr. bram

[Piranha1]

:rolleyes:

[Ameet]

:rolleyes:

awesome.. can u tell us how did u manage to get the icons so big :D what size did u use and what bits did u use?

[bram_smulders]

Allright guys,

The Server is back online and ready to be filled with stuff and shit:P

Theres a readme in the root folder wich you all should read very carefully.
If neccicairy there can also be reame files in subfolders that will explain how to use that folder.
The next post i'll try to explain what and how the rom should be looking like.

gr. bram

[Piranha1]

awesome.. can u tell us how did u manage to get the icons so big :D what size did u use and what bits did u use?

hi Ameed i have the pimgres.dll for you.You can scale the icons with icon fx when you use png files.Open png file whit icon fx and make new icon.Remove whit painshop the shadows from the png.

[Ameet]

hi Ameed i have the pimgres.dll for you.You can scale the icons with icon fx when you use png files.Open png file whit icon fx and make new icon.Remove whit painshop the shadows from the png.

cool.. send it to me brother.. ;) but tell me something, as noonski pointed out very well, the icons sizing has to be just like existing icons else the file wont work. so how did u manager to replace the current smaller icons with bigger sized icons?

Allright guys,

The Server is back online and ready to be filled with stuff and shit:P

Theres a readme in the root folder wich you all should read very carefully.
If neccicairy there can also be reame files in subfolders that will explain how to use that folder.
The next post i'll try to explain what and how the rom should be looking like.

gr. bram

AWESOME!! will take a look.. eagerly awaiting ur go ahead :)

[Piranha1]

i make a cab from the new dll and install.:)
no error and it works.

[Noonski]

Also nice and CC.

http://r3dlink13.deviantart.com/art/Obsidianus-Complete-Icon-Set-75571865

Hey guys, im back from a weekend full with psrtys, soccer and a lot of beer!

getting back to busiiness, today!
@ noonski:

nice one on the wait cursor! If you make an oem pack for it and load it up toningt to the server (putting it online this afternoon)


gr. bram

Hey i had Beer and parties to but not enough.
Portugal Won!

[Piranha1]

Also nice and CC.

http://r3dlink13.deviantart.com/art/Obsidianus-Complete-Icon-Set-75571865



Hey i had Beer and parties to but not enough.
Portugal Won!


Looks nice and it is complete.And Germany won to,cu in Wien at the 28.6 than Germany-Portugal 2-0 ;)

[Ameet]

guys, facing this problem on my device with voipsms.. anyone to help what might be the cause for this problem and a possible fix too? i have netcf 3.5 installed in my rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=91415&d=1213015802 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=91416&d=1213015802

[Noonski]

guys, facing this problem on my device with voipsms.. anyone to help what might be the cause for this problem and a possible fix too? i have netcf 3.5 installed in my rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=91415&d=1213015802 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=91416&d=1213015802

Try with 2.o .net or wait until i up a different 3.5 version to see if it's different from yours.

By The Way Chi Tai did a new Update.

Batterystatus now can integrate other Homescreen plugins and replace them on swipe.

[bram_smulders]

Guys, here the longwaited list!!

Os:
wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.

Apps:
All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:
- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)
- Windows update(since 1,5 years of wm6 there has not been any update)
- Pimg(if we can manage to rip it out, and everybody uses camera album)
- Winzip(if we can break it out)

Plus:
- Opera 9.5, newest build from diamond(someone needs to make an oem pack for it, and with customised graphics)
- Youtube client(from diamond, if someone can make it qvga)
- Adobe Flash lite(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
- Htc Album(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
- Batterystatus(must be oemmed by one of us)
- Java client(Must be oemmed)
- Large startmenu(On server)
- Office 6.1(on server)
- Pim Backup 2(on server)
- Pocket rar(on server)
- Quickmenu(on server)
- Random access(on server, graphics must be edited our way)
- Screen capture(on server)
- Total_Commander(on server)
- NetCF 3.5(of it isnt already in it)
- TS_Wmp_skin(graphics must be edited our way)
- TS_Shellres(the package that was made for TS rom)
- TS_Regtweaks(on server, if you like to add something, do it, but post on the thread is you've changed something)
- TS_Extended_ROM(Mayb replace this by UC)
- TS_CommManager(On server, graphics must be edited)
- TS_ActionScreen(On server, Graphics must be edited to the design)

Guys if you feel like updating the list, post the list with in red the change that you make.

This list is also on the first page of the thread and i'll keep the list updated.

gr. bram

[Piranha1]

@ Noonski search here http://browse.deviantart.com/?catpath=customization/icons/dock/&order=9&alltime=yes&offset=0 the other icons i can not use its for mac.

[nl1010]

Nice list for this ROM :)
Question: Will there be a PP change done ?
For Elf, from 8MB to 4MB PP for some better smoother working with the phone ?

And what about Advanced Config ? also a nice tool to have in...

Greez,

[bram_smulders]

Nice list for this ROM :)
Question: Will there be a PP change done ?
For Elf, from 8MB to 4MB PP for some better smoother working with the phone ?

And what about Advanced Config ? also a nice tool to have in...

Greez,

There will be version for elf and elfin, elf one is more stripped down and a pp of 4mb.

Advance config added to the list.

[nl1010]

Thanks for your answer :) Bram.
Any idea when the ROM will be finnished ?
Then, I'll try this new ROM, and give my findings here as feedback, okay ?

Greez, Theo.

P.S. And I now use also WkTASK, a very good and nice Taskbar utility.
Works very good to manage running programms etc.....
Please have a look if you don't know it.
Maybe it's also something for the list here :)

[StreetBiker]

Guys, here the longwaited list!!

Os:
wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.

Apps:
All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:
- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)
- Windows update ...



Hey Guys,

is it possible to make the ROM only with the really nessecary items:
- Battery status
- Office 6.1
- NetCF

I really like Bram's Rom's but I have still the Small Memoty Touch, so I would like to keep the memory as big as possible.
All the other programs could be supply as .cab files so everybody is free to install what he would like.

Thanks

[havocnl]

Also nice and CC.

http://r3dlink13.deviantart.com/art/Obsidianus-Complete-Icon-Set-75571865



Hey i had Beer and parties to but not enough.
Portugal Won!

Nice icons :D, but i don't how these will match the new logo and color settings though...?

[havocnl]

Guys, here the longwaited list!!

Os:
wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.

Apps:
All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:
- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)
- Windows update(since 1,5 years of wm6 there has not been any update)
- Pimg(if we can manage to rip it out, and everybody uses camera album)
- Winzip(if we can break it out)

Plus:
- Opera 9.5, newest build from diamond(someone needs to make an oem pack for it, and with customised graphics)
- Youtube client(from diamond, if someone can make it qvga)
- Adobe Flash lite(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
- Htc Album(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
- Batterystatus(must be oemmed by one of us)
- Java client(Must be oemmed)
- Large startmenu(On server)
- Office 6.1(on server)
- Pim Backup 2(on server)
- Pocket rar(on server)
- Quickmenu(on server)
- Random access(on server, graphics must be edited our way)
- Screen capture(on server)
- Total_Commander(on server)
- PHM RegEdit
- WM5Storage
- NoData
- Schap's Advanced Config
- NetCF 3.5(of it isnt already in it)
- TS_Wmp_skin(graphics must be edited our way)
- TS_Shellres(the package that was made for TS rom)
- TS_Regtweaks(on server, if you like to add something, do it, but post on the thread is you've changed something)
- TS_Extended_ROM(Mayb replace this by UC)
- TS_CommManager(On server, graphics must be edited)
- TS_ActionScreen(On server, Graphics must be edited to the design)

Guys if you feel like updating the list, post the list with in red the change that you make.

This list is also on the first page of the thread and i'll keep the list updated.

gr. bram
These are my suggestions for the list. All small apps but extremely useful in my opinion.

[nl1010]

Other suggestion for the ROM:
Put in some real nice sounds, so no "old" sounds like every other ROM has...
This would also make it nicer to work with.

And yes, maybe it's a good idea to keep the ROM as small as possible, and provide all the extra progs in seperate CAB files :)
Then everyone can decide for themselves what to install.

Can't wait to test the ROM ......................

Thanks here all for your hard work.

Greez, Theo.

[Noonski]

Sorry no red FireFox RC2 has isseus with it.

OS:
wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.
Cheerio

Apps:
All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:
- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)

Which do you mean? You can disable the welcome wizard But i'm not sure you can remove it (challenge) buhuut. You get stuck with a device without screen alignment or a precooked screen alignment that doesn't work perfectly for everyone. Or do you mean Welcome Center, Thats Cheerio.

- Windows update(since 1,5 years of wm6 there has not been any update)
Cheerio

- Pimg(if we can manage to rip it out, and everybody uses camera album)
Challenge Cheerio But It's easier to replace it with S2V because it's easier to set up for the File Handling.
I'm not sure but i think i saw the Opening Of Camera sometimes runs by passing a command to th pimg exe.
And then there is the interaction between Contacts app to add Contacts picture.
Hey it's worth a try, but it's prolly tightly intergrated into other apps.

- Winzip(if we can break it out)
Cheerio, off course.

?-Nature.Wmv and other pictures and music we never asked for.?

?-SQM

?-STK service, when was the last time any of use like to receive SMS messages from our provider with news?
There's RSS readers for this nowadays.

?-New Windows TaskManager, it can also be replaced in controlpanel by Batterystatus X Close Pop UP-?
?-HTC Audio Manager-?

?-New Windows Taskmanager Battery Status can handle that or Quickmenu.

?-HTC X Close again same reason althuoght it is a bit more finger friendly.

?-Office Zip?

?-Office OneNote Still don't know what it's good for as i sync my regular WinMob Notes?

?- No Silly Cube?? To Bad 3D AltTab is buggy.

Plus:
- Opera 9.5, newest build from diamond(someone needs to make an oem pack for it, and with customised graphics)
Very Memory intensive and the QGA version isn't as finished as the VGA version. But it is a great browser.

- Youtube client(from diamond, if someone can make it qvga)
Challenge, but i expect a certain russian to wake up.

- Adobe Flash lite(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
2.1 is more stable then 3.0.

- Htc Album(On server, but mayb theres a newer version)
Have yiou tried S2V?

- Batterystatus(must be oemmed by one of us)
New version came out yesterday.

- Java client(Must be oemmed)

?- MMS version 4X as i said before, unless someone makes 5 work correctly with Quickmenu.

- Large startmenu(On server)
Cheerio

- Office 6.1(on server)
All Of It?

- Pim Backup 2(on server)
Don't Leave Rome Without it

- Pocket rar(on server)
When will there be a Pocket 7-Zip?
Or when will Total Commander start Supporting Rar?

- Quickmenu(on server)
Two Start Menu replacers? Yes i'm a fan of it buhuut.

- Random access(on server, graphics must be edited our way)
Have oyu checked new Icontacts? (but if your going for the non Smartdial Diamond Skinned Dialer Random acces is better choice because you then still retain sort of smart dialing by "Contacts >> Large HTC Keyboard Smart Dialer >> Dial"

- Screen capture(on server)
- Total_Commander(on server)
Older one is smaller but has uglier icons But then again these can be replaced.

- NetCF 3.5(of it isnt already in it)
Two versions available.

- TS_Wmp_skin(graphics must be edited our way)
Off Course

- TS_Shellres(the package that was made for TS rom)
And with the Waiting Cursor Added and tested.

- TS_Regtweaks(on server, if you like to add something, do it, but post on the thread is you've changed something)
Yup i will be searching for the Aplication Data to SD reg tweak (Retain Your Google Cahced Maps on SD after flash)

?-SMSchanger for threaded SMS or two mini cabs to change these.

?-SoftKey Changer , maybe i saw this incorrectly but Adnvaced Cong=fig was missing it in new version.

- TS_Extended_ROM(Mayb replace this by UC)
Ext Rom What is that?

- TS_CommManager(On server, graphics must be edited)
Ne Pas De

- TS_ActionScreen(On server, Graphics must be edited to the design)
Damn where did i leave that converter... ;)

?-SPB Calulator with new skin.


P.S. And I now use also WkTASK, a very good and nice Taskbar utility.
Works very good to manage running programms etc.....
Please have a look if you don't know it.
Maybe it's also something for the list here :)

Battery status Also has a Taskmanager that runs in the spot that HTC X button runs.
It's less finger friendly. But doubles Suck.

Hey Guys,

is it possible to make the ROM only with the really nessecary items:
- Battery status
- Office 6.1
- NetCF

I really like Bram's Rom's but I have still the Small Memoty Touch, so I would like to keep the memory as big as possible.
All the other programs could be supply as .cab files so everybody is free to install what he would like.

Thanks

Ah your looking for a rom by Ameet or me ;)
This is not it but you'll prolly see a few other roms based on what we are doing here together.


As for the Kitchen i'm not a XIP porting Genius and wasn't able to get new 6.1 OS cooking correctly in HyperCore.
And i allready had a very easy 1,2,3 setup in Bepe's Kitchen (Cook, Bake, Flash)
And it does make a very nifty, cleaner and faster Rom. Not a big Change


And Now HOLLAND,,,, HOLLAND...,,, Sorry Italians.

Have a Nice Match Let's Hope that This Time It isn't "You Can't win from them, but you can lose from them"

Couldn't Control Myself, made New Schapps Advanced Config that Goes to Empty Space in Control Panle Personal page...
Now really Footbal.

[Piranha1]

Congratulations from Germany to Holland :D

[pkoper]

Nice one... well done

[Noonski]

Danke and you to.

I was uploading the XIP into the kitchen and then decided to stop.

Because Ameet has the XIP to upload.

As for the OEM And SYS.

That will take a bit longer.

I have to Compare the 19521 Build to the 19199 Build.

Which means look at all rgu files and File Dates and version.

It's just this Psycho Shit i like to do to find out what really has changed ;) besides XIP.

[roosen]

Have a probleme i have a HTC TOUCH (elfin) (128/256MB).
I had flash a rom of you bram beatefull rom. But there was batery status included in the rom. And when tis is on my elfin it always reboot. I had the problem also with the stock rom and with every rom that i have flash untill now. is there any way to get it completely out of the rom. I have try to just do stop batery status but my elfin always reboot. I have to find a way get it completely out the rom. Need some help please??? THNX

GRTZ Roosen.

[bram_smulders]

Have a probleme i have a HTC TOUCH (elfin) (128/256MB).
I had flash a rom of you bram beatefull rom. But there was batery status included in the rom. And when tis is on my elfin it always reboot. I had the problem also with the stock rom and with every rom that i have flash untill now. is there any way to get it completely out of the rom. I have try to just do stop batery status but my elfin always reboot. I have to find a way get it completely out the rom. Need some help please??? THNX

GRTZ Roosen.

Hey Roosen,

i think you must download the new batterystatus from the donwload site.
Just google on batterystatus and you'll find it.

gr. bram

ps. Try to post a question in the appropriate forums, so the thread of the rom you tried.

[roosen]

Hey Roosen,

i think you must download the new batterystatus from the donwload site.
Just google on batterystatus and you'll find it.

gr. bram

ps. Try to post a question in the appropriate forums, so the thread of the rom you tried.

yes but i the rom that you are cooking now is it included in tis rom to is this te new batery status ? bet this is gonna be great rom again :) because i flash this rom of you touch_surface_1.31_NLDSP1 and i had the same probleme with this rom. my elfin reboot. so can i get it out of the rom so i can put that rom back on my elfin. untill your new rom i done??

GRTZ Roosen

[Noonski]

Only the latest and greatest.


On the Down Side.

I'm having Some Boot Disc Failures, so i can't do some hardcore work the coming days.

[Ameet]

- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)

Which do you mean? You can disable the welcome wizard But i'm not sure you can remove it (challenge) buhuut. You get stuck with a device without screen alignment or a precooked screen alignment that doesn't work perfectly for everyone. Or do you mean Welcome Center, Thats Cheerio.
@noonski. we can certainly remove the welcomehead.96.png file without compromising on the screen alignment thingy. i had it removed from one of my uce roms for the user to get the right to choose without increasing the no of files in windows folder. we can although disable the welcome image screen (again without compromising on the screen alignment thing) but then the screen will be pure white (like the doors to heaven ;)) at boot up

As for the Kitchen i'm not a XIP porting Genius and wasn't able to get new 6.1 OS cooking correctly in HyperCore.
And i allready had a very easy 1,2,3 setup in Bepe's Kitchen (Cook, Bake, Flash)
@bram. i agree with noonski. hypercore is way too complex for cooking elfin roms. i mean we will have to really spend time on rebuilding the bat files. even i suggest we use bepe's kitchen with the all-in-one-package tool or with the normal package tool (if u want the rom to be repackable or not) this kitchen is way more easier to cook

@noonski. i have done the xip porting and the sys porting of this build and i am aware of the process. i'll upload a readme file (if bram agrees) on the server for the cooks to get a clear picture of how it is to be done (xip porting is easy but the sys porting needs the cpl trick) also removed the hd.dll and osax*.dll files from the ported xip of my newest rom which gives .07mb more space in the program memory (every byte counts ;))

[Ameet]

I was uploading the XIP into the kitchen and then decided to stop.

Because Ameet has the XIP to upload.

As for the OEM And SYS.

That will take a bit longer.

I have to Compare the 19521 Build to the 19199 Build.

Which means look at all rgu files and File Dates and version.

It's just this Psycho Shit i like to do to find out what really has changed ;) besides XIP.

hi noonski.. i thought we were to build this rom on the sys and xip which is uploaded by me in the server (its the xperia 19915 build)

[Noonski]

hi noonski.. i thought we were to build this rom on the sys and xip which is uploaded by me in the server (its the xperia 19915 build)

Your right i still had the older build in my head i started working on in my head..

I have to restart comparisons with that build.

And i noticed i also have it here at work so i'll be upping piece by piece.

[Liebaart]

i think you must download the new batterystatus from the donwload site.
Just google on batterystatus and you'll find it.



I had the same problem with BatteryStatus. I have the Elfin and BatteryStatus caused problems like rebooting, freezing and the likes. I always used the latest version of the program. It's not the overclocking that caused this. I now use Omapclock to overclock without any problem.

So please, leave out BatteryStatus. People who really want it will install the CAB.

Same goes for tweaking software like Schapps, PocketToolman and others. Or even taskmanagers. Everybody has his own favorite program. Leave it out and let the users choose themselves what they want for this.

What do you think?

[Beaumont]

Hello!

I'm interested in fuction, which automatically get settings of Internet and MMS from the operator, when you put into a new SIM. In some ROMs this fuction is disabled.

[Noonski]

I had the same problem with BatteryStatus. I have the Elfin and BatteryStatus caused problems like rebooting, freezing and the likes. I always used the latest version of the program. It's not the overclocking that caused this. I now use Omapclock to overclock without any problem.

So please, leave out BatteryStatus. People who really want it will install the CAB.

Same goes for tweaking software like Schapps, PocketToolman and others. Or even taskmanagers. Everybody has his own favorite program. Leave it out and let the users choose themselves what they want for this.

What do you think?

I had issues to with Battery status but these don't happen in the build i use now....


...

and when i have the tray icons disabled. I like the tray icons and would love to use the Blutooth A2DP Quick connect but because of freezes i never use it unfortunatly.

Also had some very nice new icons for the tray, dammit.

Can you guys check if this has anything to do with what you guys have?

[Piranha1]

Hi Noonskie I have version 1.05. Remove the .zip its a rar file

[mcdull]

I had issues to with Battery status but these don't happen in the build i use now....


...

and when i have the tray icons disabled. I like the tray icons and would love to use the Blutooth A2DP Quick connect but because of freezes i never use it unfortunatly.

Also had some very nice new icons for the tray, dammit.

Can you guys check if this has anything to do with what you guys have?

if a new rom is about to compile, I would really want to see the possibility of including widcomm stack in the base rom.

[Noonski]

Hi Noonskie I have version 1.05. Remove the .zip its a rar file
Tnx. Is this the 314 version? from 8-9-2008

I was allready working on this OEM with a changed RGU and set up with different skin file, so you don't lose the skin and icons out of the rom after you install a newer version ;)

if a new rom is about to compile, I would really want to see the possibility of including widcomm stack in the base rom.

What's good about Widcomm?

[mcdull]

Tnx. Is this the 314 version? from 8-9-2008

I was allready working on this OEM with a changed RGU and set up with different skin file, so you don't lose the skin and icons out of the rom after you install a newer version ;)



What's good about Widcomm?

Widcomm is a full feature BT stack in compare with M$.
supported profiles is avrp,a2dp,obex,sap,handset.bt dun,pan,serial.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355448

[Piranha1]

its version 291.works fine without probs.

[Zwanace]

i would enjoy the touch diamond keyboard/black dialpad to be included in the rom. I think it would give it a nice look.

[holodila]

Yeah, and it would be nice if the keyboard would be language customizable.

[bram_smulders]

Yeah, and it would be nice if the keyboard would be language customizable.


The keyboard that will be implemented is the original htc keyboard, with all languages we can find!

gr bram

[Timminater]

can you include moBlue in your rom as default bleutooth handling ?

as moblue can actually receive files on memory card and sort files out by extention and move them to the correct folders.

windows mobile bluetooth receives all files on internal storage, and because internal storage is already very low on the HTC Touch receiving bluetooth files on internal storage isn't very handy.

[havocnl]

can you include moBlue in your rom as default bleutooth handling ?

as moblue can actually receive files on memory card and sort files out by extention and move them to the correct folders.

windows mobile bluetooth receives all files on internal storage, and because internal storage is already very low on the HTC Touch receiving bluetooth files on internal storage isn't very handy.

Can't this be changed by a simple registry edit?

[havocnl]

Widcomm is a full feature BT stack in compare with M$.
supported profiles is avrp,a2dp,obex,sap,handset.bt dun,pan,serial.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355448

Also heard a lot of good things regarding the widcomm stack.
Widcomm and MS are the two most used stacks, and believe widcomm had even more compatibility, am i right???
But.... i thought an official widcomm stack would be not free (read very expensive)??
Would be cool to have a superior bluetooth implementation/stack in this rom if possible....

[Noonski]

So no one ever had memory problems using the Dual Keyboard on ELF?

The Diamond Keyboard is acting pretty good on my Wizard (Crappy Diamond build BTW)

?

I just got a new Sata Disc Going to reinstall my OS tonight

[LeoArg]

Hi
What is "surface ROM"?

Please, I wanna screenshots

[Noonski]

Hi
What is "surface ROM"?

Please, I wanna screenshots

I removed all Mock up testing Screenshots i did because no one knows what it's going to look like ;)

In the mean time.

Here's the latest and greatest BT States OEM with Minor Surface Adjustments.

Also added a cab file.

Will change more icons and stuff

And also removed them again.
I call it new age marketing.

It was just an early version and this was an easy way to download them at home ;)

So Bram have you any graphics to tickle my inspiration bone?

[whistler-nl]

My Touch Diamond has been send so i will have it tomorrow if all goes well but i'm still hoping the next build of the Surface firmware will be as good as the previous versions as the firmware i'm running on my Touch now has major flaws.

Keep up the good work.

[vetvito]

a lot of progress I see

Check the sig, Titan

[meddleuk]

Hope you don't mind me asking, I'm not impatient just curious. Do you guys have any estimate of when this rom will be ready to go public. Keep up the good work!!

[savale]

Good to see, you're back Bram, hope you can use the money I send you! Good luck guys building the ultimate ROM

[Piranha1]

a lot of progress I see

Check the sig, Titan
NICE JOB.:D:D

[@rj*n]

hey bram can u look at Cootek Keyboard as option instead of diamond keyboard:confused: as i feel it is more easier to use than the diamond keyboard?? just my thought.. hope u'll look into it:D

site: http://www.cootek.com/ (freeware edition:cool:)

[cstewart]

hey bram can u look at Cootek Keyboard as option instead of diamond keyboard:confused: as i feel it is more easier to use than the diamond keyboard?? just my thought.. hope u'll look into it:D

site: http://www.cootek.com/ (freeware edition:cool:)

No, I would say a better option. I am pretty sure Noonski knows this product too!

[Noonski]

No, I would say a better option. I am pretty sure Noonski knows this product too!

It is a better option yes.

But HTC Diamond is a bit better then the DUAL version and we can add more languages which isn't possible using Cooteks version.

And Cootek doesn't allow for redistribution unfortunately.

Besides Bram Posted e few back which it was going to be.

If some have you know the story of S2P which had to stop the thread and development as it was using non Open Source Code.
You know how important it is to respect others intelectual blahblah.
(but Playing with HTC Apps is Allowed??)


BTW Release Data is in Three Months or maybe Six.

[Noonski]

@noonski. we can certainly remove the welcomehead.96.png file without compromising on the screen alignment thingy. i had it removed from one of my uce roms for the user to get the right to choose without increasing the no of files in windows folder. we can although disable the welcome image screen (again without compromising on the screen alignment thing) but then the screen will be pure white (like the doors to heaven ;)) at boot up


@bram. i agree with noonski. hypercore is way too complex for cooking elfin roms. i mean we will have to really spend time on rebuilding the bat files. even i suggest we use bepe's kitchen with the all-in-one-package tool or with the normal package tool (if u want the rom to be repackable or not) this kitchen is way more easier to cook

@noonski. i have done the xip porting and the sys porting of this build and i am aware of the process. i'll upload a readme file (if bram agrees) on the server for the cooks to get a clear picture of how it is to be done (xip porting is easy but the sys porting needs the cpl trick) also removed the hd.dll and osax*.dll files from the ported xip of my newest rom which gives .07mb more space in the program memory (every byte counts ;))

I meant the Welcome wizard

[Ameet]

I meant the Welcome wizard

:D oh.. :D i'll try to find out about it ;)

[Noonski]

:D oh.. :D i'll try to find out about it ;)

i disabled it in SPC 6.09 and either cooking in the Touchscreen settings or using UC was not the most user friendly solution.

[Taninpv]

How about including CID for idiot like me, one step process?
Like Blue Elves, which CID Unlocking is integrated into this ROM update utility.

[abhishek.vij]

some of us have already CID unlocked our devices permanently.. so those who want to unlock can use the USPL..

[Noonski]

What he means is the JumpSPL method.

It doesn't touch the SPL.

And it's not hard to change the commands from that one.

Or maybe we can suply dual folders where you place the rom into the folder of your favourite flashing method like the WM5SE Fereira Rom.

I bought coffee and i'm sleeping early to make an early start tomorow.

[Piranha1]

:D Its Party time in Dutch :D

[Noonski]

:D Its Party time in Dutch :D

Tankx i did.


Now running WM6.1 Without any changes Kaiser SYS with some replaced Files for Modules.
It's original nothing disabled (accept AutoUpdate)
And ffree memory on my elf 8MB pp is 25.90 Steady as a rock.

Very Promising since i haven't done this in a while.

Going to Play with Ameet's Xperia Core later.

Now With Cube in Memory 23.4 still nice.

Storage memory specs aren't important yet.

[sala91]

Hello.

I find this project rather intresting, kudos and good luck in youre work.

I am using the official rom as its well, am without these third party stuff and it just works. Or so i thought. I havent installed almoust anything to this phone thou it says my memory is low (indeed, the memory has only 320kb left, not the ram ofcorse). So i would realy love you to renember, that best rom is what has evrything that is nessesery and nothing more. I realy dont like the batterystatus for anything else than overclock, i realy love the stock close stuff (you close the windows with X, tap it longer to close the program and switch it on home screen), dialer pad that comes stock and the dimonds keyboard (thou after reboot i must reseleckt it, its a shame). It would be great if you updated the icons regarding to Windows Vista GUI guidlines :)

Just my two cents. Also looking for slim rom for my phone (all i need is java emulator, office, zip... oh whell just the standard programs i get with official fimmware). Can anyone explain my why official fimmware is so BIG?

[Noonski]

Hello.

I find this project rather intresting, kudos and good luck in youre work.

I am using the official rom as its well, am without these third party stuff and it just works. Or so i thought. I havent installed almoust anything to this phone thou it says my memory is low (indeed, the memory has only 320kb left, not the ram ofcorse). So i would realy love you to renember, that best rom is what has evrything that is nessesery and nothing more. I realy dont like the batterystatus for anything else than overclock, i realy love the stock close stuff (you close the windows with X, tap it longer to close the program and switch it on home screen), dialer pad that comes stock and the dimonds keyboard (thou after reboot i must reseleckt it, its a shame). It would be great if you updated the icons regarding to Windows Vista GUI guidlines :)

Just my two cents. Also looking for slim rom for my phone (all i need is java emulator, office, zip... oh whell just the standard programs i get with official fimmware). Can anyone explain my why official fimmware is so BIG?

Well if it is a stock rom you lose space to Ext Rom, which is removed in most Custom Roms.

Dinner now.

[guitarguy]

... and the dimonds keyboard (thou after reboot i must reseleckt it, its a shame). ...

I know this is a little OT, but try to find a program called SIPCHANGE, it'll reselect the diamond keyboard after a soft reset, works well...

Google it, it's somewhere on this forum...

[Noonski]

Funny The diamond keyboard cooked into my wizard is always on as default. Without SIP change. I remembers this happening to Dual Keyboard tho.

[sala91]

Also, can you make shure that HTC Dimond keyboard has estonian languge support? (öäüõ)

And onenote mobile support there?

BTW: Found some nice costum fimmware, wonder if it works for me?
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd258/pkoper_photos/dfinal.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397101

[Piranha1]

Hi Sala look here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2302936&postcount=73

[Noonski]

Hey that's Piranha's and Pkopers Rom.

Nice and black.

ScoobyDooby Doo Where are you?

[bram_smulders]

Hey that's Piranha's and Pkopers Rom.

Nice and black.

ScoobyDooby Doo Where are you?

YouWhat?

Busy playing Teeter on my new Touch Diamond:P

gr. bram

[Noonski]

YouWhat?

Busy playing Teeter on my new Touch Diamond:P

gr. bram

We lost another victom to the Diamond Virus.

[bram_smulders]

We lost another victom to the Diamond Virus.

No you didnt Lose me, im still committed to this thread.
I think im not gonna cook for the diamond, becouse in my opinion its the ultimate device, even with a stock rom.
Htc finnally puts his shit together, and released this gret phone!

So my touch is only for flash purposes now!

gr. bram

[Noonski]

No you didnt Lose me, im still committed to this thread.
I think im not gonna cook for the diamond, becouse in my opinion its the ultimate device, even with a stock rom.
Htc finnally puts his shit together, and released this gret phone!

So my touch is only for flash purposes now!

gr. bram

Well I'm going for The Rapheal in August.


Well i made a first clean new base and the memory was doing great.
I then removed SQM and customer experience and and i'm now left with less memory frigin weird huh.

So good thing to retest later on.

I'm doing nothin extreme here not removing a lot.

I'll be uploading an unskinned version hopefully tonight that you can place in the server, if it's up again.

Still wondering what graphical ideas you have.

[Ameet]

Well I'm going for The Rapheal in August.


Well i made a first clean new base and the memory was doing great.
I then removed SQM and customer experience and and i'm now left with less memory frigin weird huh.

So good thing to retest later on.

I'm doing nothin extreme here not removing a lot.

I'll be uploading an unskinned version hopefully tonight that you can place in the server, if it's up again.

Still wondering what graphical ideas you have.

great idea. i think i got a few cosmetic to work in the control panel with higher resolution icons (without any bugs right now) see the screenshots

hey bram. is the server up yet? there was a login problem i think i was not alone :)

[Noonski]

I was thinking about implementing Long pres and short press tricks for call key and power key.

Like long press call brings up commmanager.

Short press Power brings up PxShut XP
Long press calls mortscript that closes all apps and turns off screen.
Or the other way around.
(i think i can find that script)

(reset is in Batterys status X button screen)

Nice... added Mort script to reasign buttons. Very handy. But have to check the mortscript filehandling not being cooked correctly.

Working like a charm see the attachment with OEM package with MortScript and the Assign LongPress Script for Call, End, Power keys.

Cab installs then script to "Start >> Settings >> System"
Now testing new version with Push To Talk removed as Touch does not have that.

Script courtesy of
v3patel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=432558)

If this doesn't convince Bram to cook in MortScript at less then 100k ;)

Now Some other cool scripts can be suggested.

For instance one to disable or enable Threaded SMS. Etc.
But i'm not going to learn Mort at the moment.

In general I now finally am a bit more happy with the lack of hardware buttons and easy config.

Edit: replaced OEM package with one without push to talk option.
Yes i'm cooking dammit.

Also been Checking Gullu'ms Keyboard for Diamond.

And maybe cooking mass amount of languages is a bit over done.

He made the base in a way that aditional labguages can be added using UC.

This will help slim the Rom down as basic Keyboard is 2.4 MB and full is 5.4MB

And besides we can't possibly skin all languages.

It's your call Bram 3 MB is a lot.

Also it's still unclear if you want Cube in it?


Ameet did you have that Xperia Ported XIP?
One with hd.dll & osaxst0.dll

And one Without hd.dll & osaxst0.dll

I'm online yes uploading the kitchen 45 min to go.

Everything i changed in rom has a counterpart to restore it in the kitchen.

I always like to start from scratch on new ROM from a clean, so there's still a lot to be done.
Just finished Iron Man next up Kung Fu Panda.

http://rapidshare.de/files/39731012/Kitchen.zip.html

Yes it's got a password so don't waste your time.

It's the Surface Password.

[pkoper]

So its not just me with the server....

Going for the Raphael too when it comes out.

Once we have a rough idea on how it will look like, piranha and I could start with the german side of things.

Is there an apps list by the way???

[Noonski]

Jup first two threads.

It has no cube ;)

I did made a new HTC background that can go on different Backdrops.
Also have some recolourised HTC home icons (original)
And i now i like my HTCHome Icons, but they are not good enough and not easy to recognize (thant's why i like them.

I saw A very slick Poorly Duck WMP skin i would like to Brush with some greens.

But i'm waiting with skinning untill there's Main Backdrop/tsk from Bram.

In the mean time i need to find some new Cabs and OEM (not the hard part)

In the mean time i'm just happy my Longpress Endkey is working alolong with the configuration script for it.

[howimboe]

I was wondering if any french version will be available?

Actually if it's not to hard to do, i'll be glad to help to translate the rom in french, if noone has already applied for it :p


Btw, nice to see that you're all team up for this rom project...

[Piranha1]

Jup first two threads.

It has no cube ;)

I did made a new HTC background that can go on different Backdrops.
Also have some recolourised HTC home icons (original)
And i now i like my HTCHome Icons, but they are not good enough and not easy to recognize (thant's why i like them.

I saw A very slick Poorly Duck WMP skin i would like to Brush with some greens.

But i'm waiting with skinning untill there's Main Backdrop/tsk from Bram.

In the mean time i need to find some new Cabs and OEM (not the hard part)

In the mean time i'm just happy my Longpress Endkey is working alolong with the configuration script for it.

Yes. No cube i hate the fuc.... Thing.;)

[bram_smulders]

Hi Yall

noonski, what you did with mortscript is great and well certainly gonna use it!

tonight with the pleasure of a nice cold beer and soccer im gonna make the skin type for our surface rom.

gr. b

[Noonski]

Ameet i found the XIP no need to Upload.
(at work)

Make that two Cold beers.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=93078&stc=1&d=1213617511

Been playing around a bit more.
This way i at least have a brand new WMP skin for Myself ;)

[Ameet]

Ameet i found the XIP no need to Upload.
(at work)

Make that two Cold beers

coolio :D u got the base rom from my rapidshare folder? i managed to use 16.8 mil color icons in the settings dialogs without any problems.. check the screenshots here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2304381&postcount=220
i'll b using some good looking icons in my next cook, these were only for testing but i kept them ;)

[Noonski]

coolio :D u got the base rom from my rapidshare folder? i managed to use 16.8 mil color icons in the settings dialogs without any problems.. check the screenshots here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2304381&postcount=220
i'll b using some good looking icons in my next cook, these were only for testing but i kept them ;)

I think Schap's is going for some exclusivity on his months hard work at first which he deserves.

So it will be some time before others can use his developments.

And check out this golden oldie from PHM adds Admininistrative tools ion Control panel where you can then put extra custom settings.

As the original Diamond Youtube player win't work in qvga.

Why not check this XDA made version

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227

Remove the extensions from the attachments

Keyboards for Ameet.
While your at it try the same trick on Shellres.dll ;)

Yes i read minds i'm know for that.

[Piranha1]

@ Ameed i have a Pack with hardware png"s for you
http://www.ppc.c180.de/png.rar

[Ameet]

I think Schap's is going for some exclusivity on his months hard work at first which he deserves.

So it will be some time before others can use his developments.

And check out this golden oldie from PHM adds Admininistrative tools ion Control panel where you can then put extra custom settings.

As the original Diamond Youtube player win't work in qvga.

Why not check this XDA made version

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227

Remove the extensions from the attachments

Keyboards for Ameet.
While your at it try the same trick on Shellres.dll ;)

Yes i read minds i'm know for that.
hey i love the keyboard skin used there ;) exactly what i wanted to do with mine :D try what with shellres? tried to color the dialogs with backgrounds but the text looks like boxed out.. cant get watermarks to work on dialogs

@ Ameed i have a Pack with hardware png"s for you
http://www.ppc.c180.de/png.rar
hey thanks brother.. been playing with the resolution in there and i got it working with 24bit ;)

[Noonski]

Maybe not for this rom.

But finished my Landscape WMP skin.

Still need to finish Portrait,... tomorow.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=93182&stc=1&d=1213651172

[bereda]

can you guyys make a version with the cube? i know your taking it out but i actually use it alot...

[Noonski]

can you guyys make a version with the cube? i know your taking it out but i actually use it alot...

No decision has been taken on the Cube.

I'm taking it out just so the graphics are seperated.

It's up to Bram.

But some know my position.

What does it really add to functionality the HTC Home screen doesn't?
Besides hugging up space and taking up memory?

[bereda]

the reason i personally use it is because it works with out even having to unlock the phone i can just press the power button slide to unlock is allready on tthe swipe my finger up and theres all my speed dials and links to photos and junk then i just slide it back down and voile still locked.... i might give not using it a try though and start using htc home

[Noonski]

the reason i personally use it is because it works with out even having to unlock the phone i can just press the power button slide to unlock is allready on tthe swipe my finger up and theres all my speed dials and links to photos and junk then i just slide it back down and voile still locked.... i might give not using it a try though and start using htc home


Didn't know you could swipe in locked mode.

You just gave me new Stuff to think about.

Now making a package with FTouchFlo and Configurator.
Normal Down Up Swipe BioTuoch, Up Down Minize App, Left Righ AltTab 3d, Right Lift AltTab 3D. (AltTab3d is a bit sluggish just Temp)

Before i forget
FTouchFlo Courtesy of efrost (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=454056)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

Also Fixed BTStatus Package, it doesn't like starting without it's default theme.

[Re-Mi]

Hey Noonski,

Do you know you your bed looks like from up close?

Everytime i have a spare minute i'll take a peak at this thread and you are always on and posting.

You know that there is a little invention called sleeping, it will clear out your head once in a while :P

Greetz,

[Noonski]

Hey Noonski,

Do you know you your bed looks like from up close?

Everytime i have a spare minute i'll take a peak at this thread and you are always on and posting.

You know that there is a little invention called sleeping, it will clear out your head once in a while :P

Greetz,

I actually slept early and woke up early today ;)

[nomik2]

Sounds like a great idea...can't wait to see what you guys come up with.

[Ameet]

Keyboards for Ameet.
While your at it try the same trick on Shellres.dll ;)

hey noonski.. first get some sleep ;) the keyboard mui works for me.. just copied the file to windows and reset.. will edit the file to my taste now.. ;) will try the shellres too now :D

[Noonski]

I feel like a little kid again, having 4MB PP back on my Little ELF.

Hip Hooray for Swiftblade.

Now what was the offset for 0MB PP again.. :)

Watch some footie play with my left to write swipe set to 3D AltTab.

I can't make a package to copy FtouchFlo into startup folder from scratch because it breaks the screen alignment.

So i will include package into new UC package where the Start Up Shortcut get's copied to windows start up through Cab with other Reg settings.

It's better to install extra shortcuts through Cab in Autorun because it keeps the windows folder a bit more clean.

Because also if you precook Long_end.lnk and other Long press links the Mort script wont be able to overwrite them because they are in Rom Memory. But if you place them using a Cab ofter the actuall Flash The Mortscript does it's job if need be. But this way we can allready pre define a few handy Long Press Links for those users that don't bother to change this settings.


Hey if were making a rom with with this many Cooks we have to make it Amazing right?
Or else i might as well go to sleep....

Have a nice Game.

Bram, Is the Server Fixed Yet?
I have some amazing P#$n To Upload ;)

Added some of the merged or removed SYS folders.
Will remove them once servers accesible again.

This way anyone can check for msitakes in the packages.
I've rebuild DSM so we can eventually make a recookable base in HyperCore, that isif someone knows how to export new WM 6.1 XIP correctly to Super Core.

[sala91]

I think you cloud just input the wmp with iphone skin. Thats pretty neat actualy. Thou i must say, wow, the keyboard looks nice. Keep up the work, i need sth to flash to my pda :D

[Trekvogel]

Hey guys, great to see you working on a new rom. The plans sound great! Have you considered using Battery Status for this project? It seems to me it would be useful for you guys. It's obviously great for overclocking but it's also a very nice task manager so you wouldn't have to include HTC's. BS is also very skinnable so you could make your home screen or a big part of it with BS and customize it to be the way you'd like it. I'm currently playing a it with the skinning and it's very nice.

[Ameet]

if someone knows how to export new WM 6.1 XIP correctly to Super Core.

hey noonski. can u post ur super core kitchen tools only? i'll try n take a look at the files (and try to port the new xip to ur kitchen) i still feel we should use bepe's kitchen with ervius's tools (if u or bram really want our final rom to be repackable)

hi bram. is the server up yet? gotta take noonski's amazing P#$n upload for ts rom from there :D

[Noonski]

hey noonski. can u post ur super core kitchen tools only? i'll try n take a look at the files (and try to port the new xip to ur kitchen) i still feel we should use bepe's kitchen with ervius's tools (if u or bram really want our final rom to be repackable)

hi bram. is the server up yet? gotta take noonski's amazing P#$n upload for ts rom from there :D


I am using Bepe's kitchen but if you want to make a base that's recookable you need the DSM files.

I agree on the use of Bepe's kitchen.
But woulnd't it be nice to make a close to original rom but just with a few things fixed and a few new apps and updated apps.
Not A Vanilla but sorta XDA Stock Rom.

I' post the ROM folder it uses. Here's the kitchen.
http://rapidshare.com/files/50880220/HyperCore_V1.01.exe

Yes BTStatus will be in there. I also like the new intergrate Home PLugins feature with Swipe support to togle between them.
Now if only the taskmanager of BTstatus be made bigger like X Close it would be perfect.
It's still better to use then Pbar taskmanager.

Don't know if you guys have checked out this XDA made youtube player (QVGA)

Ghehe no need to add that little app to change Threaded SMS.

[nl1010]

Hey crew, any idea when the ROM will be available ?
I see many very nice things happening here.
So, I can't wait to test this new ROM.

Thanks for all the hard and nice work !! :)

Greez,

[bram_smulders]

Hi guys, back on track here,

My server is down becouse of failing folder duplication, Maybe you guys know about this issue with windows home server.

Made a backup right on time to my home computer so the data is saved but the server is wack.

Fixing the bug soon, in the mean while you guys can share via this thread and upload all you shit when the server is up again.
Now it's time for a good graphic design here, lets go!

gr. bram

[havocnl]

But woulnd't it be nice to make a close to original rom but just with a few things fixed and a few new apps and updated apps.
Not A Vanilla but sorta XDA Stock Rom.

Hmm a lean and mean rom :D that sounds very good :)

[Noonski]

Hmm a lean and mean rom :D that sounds very good :)

I Pledge Alegiance to the Surface

[polac]

this was a WWE rom?

[Ameet]

I am using Bepe's kitchen but if you want to make a base that's recookable you need the DSM files.

I agree on the use of Bepe's kitchen.
But woulnd't it be nice to make a close to original rom but just with a few things fixed and a few new apps and updated apps.
Not A Vanilla but sorta XDA Stock Rom.

I' post the ROM folder it uses. Here's the kitchen.
http://rapidshare.com/files/50880220/HyperCore_V1.01.exe

Yes BTStatus will be in there. I also like the new intergrate Home PLugins feature with Swipe support to togle between them.
Now if only the taskmanager of BTstatus be made bigger like X Close it would be perfect.
It's still better to use then Pbar taskmanager.

Don't know if you guys have checked out this XDA made youtube player (QVGA)

Ghehe no need to add that little app to change Threaded SMS.

:D i was actually talking about the final rom being recookable or not.. but for our team sharing i propose we use ervius's kitchen which has option to either use normal package tool or to use all in one package tool.. i didnt actually want hypercore but ur supercore to try and port the xip to ur kitchen.

p.s. u only need a reg entry for disabling the threaded message or get it back ;) i'm using it