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PJBHermes
1st June 2008, 05:22 AM
This looks like an XDA Developer ROM? Is this guy profiting off this site or is he legit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/WM6-Upgrade-For-8525-TyTN-Hermes-MDA-Vario-II-M3100_W0QQitemZ220240583931QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m220240583931&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
LlamaLord
1st June 2008, 05:51 AM
yea thats not right on whats hes doing
galaxys
1st June 2008, 06:01 AM
discussion thread on more ebay ripoffs...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391615
ultramag69
1st June 2008, 07:01 AM
Anyone who hasn't unlocked orHard SPLed their hermes runs the risk of bricking it.. Wonder what the legal ramifications are of that as he hasnt put on the site that he takes no responsibility for bad flashs... Uh-oh...
juice
1st June 2008, 06:06 PM
Been SUCH a great fan of all the hard work you guys put in to cook a ROM and then see THIS!!!!!!!!
WOT a (put your own word in!!) !!!!!
raidzx
1st June 2008, 06:24 PM
the name of the seller matches the name on the rom so it could be the rom maker posting it unless he is impersonating the maker.
Spiaatie
1st June 2008, 06:47 PM
What's up with You guys!
It's my own work - I develop it!
I will never post any of My ROMs on XDA because off Your all attitude - it's such a bad :mad: :(
I don't steal any other work! And if YOU don't know - don't speak.
P.S. I use some software what I can get on this forum, but that's all and we all do it!
Have a nice DAY! :)
Dr Puttingham
1st June 2008, 08:00 PM
Personally, if Spiaatie cooks his own ROM (and isn't stealing another cook's ROM, as happened to Dutty and others) and doesn't involve XDA in any way, shape or form I have no problem concerning this. Evidently he's got good feedback on eBay and everything seems to have his labels.
There's nothing wrong from profitting from your own work, just leave us (read:XDA) completely out of it.
Wam7
1st June 2008, 08:07 PM
I totally agree with Dr P. It seems like he has developed his own 6 ROM for other devices and his customers seem happy. It looks like at least one person has bricked his phone but caveat emptor!
CRCinAU
1st June 2008, 08:23 PM
Wow. This is cool. Selling pirated software. I bet piracy@microsoft.com would love to know about this, you know - so they can get you to pay the appropriate license fees etc required to distribute WM builds for profit...
While I don't care that the work is his own, it would be very unwise to sell any pirated or non-legit software on any forum (here or ebay).
EDIT: Oh, and it also violates this section of eBay's policy for listing software for digital download:
"The seller must be the owner of the underlying intellectual property, or authorized to distribute it by the intellectual property owner."
Seeing as I highly doubt you have authorisation to distribute Microsoft Intellectual Property, then you are:
1) Profiting from the distribution of copyright material.
2) Violating ebay policy
3) Probably breaking numerous IP, copyright and distribution laws.
I highly suggest you discontinue this before someone catches on what you're doing.
Dr Puttingham
1st June 2008, 08:32 PM
Totally agree CRCinAU. Saw more than a few IT consulting businesses here in So Fla get busted for selling pirated Novell and Microsoft, not a good thing. It's his a$$, we can't control it. As long as he sh1ts in his own backyard and not ours...
Myself, I'd never draw attention to myself that way, one WILL get noticed... maybe get a visit from Guido and Moose... which would be preferable to Dewey, Cheatem & Howe, PA, ehehehe! :p
raidzx
2nd June 2008, 04:10 AM
What's up with You guys!
It's my own work - I develop it!
I will never post any of My ROMs on XDA because off Your all attitude - it's such a bad :mad: :(
Have a nice DAY! :)
Well, going by your post it seems like you might fit right in. You may need an attitude adjustment yourself man.
Oh, and you are selling other people(s) work as your own (i.e: microsoft).
sanquar
7th June 2008, 05:01 AM
Wow. This is cool. Selling pirated software. I bet piracy@microsoft.com would love to know about this, you know - so they can get you to pay the appropriate license fees etc required to distribute WM builds for profit...
Just like all the other ROM modifers here are doing. You'd love to have this pulled would you? Grow a frickin' brain.
CRCinAU
7th June 2008, 05:06 AM
Just like all the other ROM modifers here are doing. You'd love to have this pulled would you? Grow a frickin' brain.
There is a difference between doing this and giving away your resulting ROM, and doing this and selling the resulting product. That is also what makes or breaks copyright cases - if money was made as a result of the infringements.
sanquar
7th June 2008, 06:43 AM
There is a difference between doing this and giving away your resulting ROM,
There is no difference at all. For one there is reverse engineering going on. This just happens to be illegal. Have you read the Microsft EULA? I suggest you do.
As for not selling the ROMS, the people here have donation links, you included. You even mention what the donations will be used for. Get off your morally high horse here. Cooks ask for donations for modifying other people's (MS) code illegally.
I'm not hear to rain on the parade but to think the cooks here are the shining white knights in the eyes of the law, you need a long hard look at yourself.
You are arguing over what criminal activity is right. One just demands payment for the illegally modified ROM, one makes it optional.
cheers,
bartybet
7th June 2008, 07:22 PM
One just demands payment for the illegally modified ROM, one makes it optional.
cheers,
Is this true?
CRCinAU
8th June 2008, 02:06 AM
There is no difference at all. For one there is reverse engineering going on. This just happens to be illegal. Have you read the Microsft EULA? I suggest you do.
Maybe if you live in the USA - however here in Australia, reverse engineering is quite legal. Remember the lawsuit where Microsoft tried to get the modchip for the Xbox declared illegal? Yeah - they lost. Oh, and DVD players that play multi-region DVDs? Yeah, the media companies lost that law suit too. I guess what I'm saying is don't take some crappy American laws for gospel - most of them don't affect you or me. As for the EULA? I haven't seen one for Windows Mobile in the 4 years I've been using Windows Mobile devices...
As for not selling the ROMS, the people here have donation links, you included. You even mention what the donations will be used for. Get off your morally high horse here. Cooks ask for donations for modifying other people's (MS) code illegally.
There is no morality involved here. If you have read into copyright cases, one of the key factors involved is if there is a direct payment for copyrighted material being sold (at least in Australia). If you must pay a fee to use a ROM (ie via eBay) then that can easily be proven. Donations are just that - donations. They are not a direct payment for an infringing works.
I'm not hear to rain on the parade but to think the cooks here are the shining white knights in the eyes of the law, you need a long hard look at yourself.
You are arguing over what criminal activity is right. One just demands payment for the illegally modified ROM, one makes it optional.
Nobody said what you imply here. Just be aware that there is black and white law that says charging for copyright material is a crime in Australia. In the rest of the world, it might be different - but that doesn't affect you and me as Australians...
Dr Puttingham
8th June 2008, 03:26 AM
Does this thread need to continue?
@CRCinAU - good research brother.
ai6908
9th June 2008, 01:01 AM
Does this thread need to continue? (continue?@CRCinAU)
Nope!!!!:mad:
galaxys
9th June 2008, 01:42 AM
Does this thread need to continue?
RIP RIP RIP.....
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