HTC Touch Pro (Raphael no longer)

[ranmasaotome510]

The QWERTY slider sibling of the recently-unveiled Touch Diamond, which should cover the bases for those who loved the Diamond's keen looks but would prefer a full set of physical keys.

The first batch of devices will be Europe-bound in "late summer" with 900 / 2100MHz 3G alongside the quadband GSM and EDGE; North and Latin American versions are promised for later in the year. So basicly a year after the mogul was introduced. This includes CDMA Versions.

Network
*Type
- GSM America bound phone, supporting both frequencies and one European/Asian for roaming (850/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS dual-band American 3G (850/1900 MHz)
European version is 900/1800/1900 GSM and 900/2100 UMTS
*Data
- GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA 1.8 Mbit/s/HSDPA 3.6 Mbit/s/HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s/HSUPA
*3G Capable
- Yes

Size
*Dimensions
- 4.0 x 2.0 x 0.7 inches (102 x 51 x 18 mm) size visualization (http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Pro-phone-size-compare-pc_2879.html)
*Weight
- 5.8 oz (165 g)

Main Display
*Resolution
- 480x640 pixels
*Type
- 65,536 colors, TFT
*Features
- 2.8 inches, Touch
*Touch Screen
- Yes with stylus (is magnetic & wakes phone when removed) and handwriting recognition

Battery
*Type
- Li-Ion, 1340 mAh
*Talk
- 8 hours (480 mins) of Talk time
*Standby
- 336 hours (14 days) of Stand-by time

Camera
*Resolution
- 3.2 megapixels Resolution
*Video
- Yes
*Features
- Flash: LED, Digital Zoom, Aditional VGA camera for video calling

Input
*Memory Slot
- microSD/microSDHC

Smartphone
*OS
- Windows Mobile Professional; 6.1 Professional
*Processor
- Qualcomm MSM7201 528 MHz
*Memory
- 512MB ROM, 288MB RAM

Connectivity
*Internet
- Opera Browser
*USB
- miniUSB 2.0
*WiFi
- 802.11b/802.11g
*Bluetooth
- 2.0
*GPS
- aGPS

CDMA Version
* Size: 4.17 (L) x 2.05(W) x 0.70 (D)
* Weight: 5.3 ounces
* Connectivity: CDMA 2000 1X/EVDO Rev.A/1xRTT and IS-95A/B voice or data. Dual band (800 and 1900 MHz)
* Operating system: Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
* Display: 2.8-inch VGA touch screen
* Camera: 3.2MP, with auto focus, flash and video calling
* Internal memory: 512 MB flash, 288 MB RAM
* Expansion slot: microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible); supports up to 16 GB
* Keyboard: Slide-out five-row QWERTY keyboard
* Bluetooth: v2.0 with A2DP support (Stereo Bluetooth)
* Wireless: Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
* GPS: GPS/AGPS
* Interface: HTC ExtUSB (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)
* Battery: 1340 mAh
* Talk time: 250 minutes
* Chipset: Qualcomm MSM 7201Aä 528MHz

Credits
MOBGangsta184 - for Stylus information

[ryanwood]

definitely looks sweet. i wonder if sprint will get it. also, is the phone cdma as well when/if it reaches usa?

does it have a stylus? if not it is worthless to me

[ranmasaotome510]

definitely looks sweet. i wonder if sprint will get it. also, is the phone cdma as well when/if it reaches usa?

does it have a stylus? if not it is worthless to me

yes, there are all CDMA versions of these phones, there to be released near the end of the year, it says so in my last sentence in my first post.

And yes, the Touch (Diamond) and the Touch Pro (Raphael) have Stylus's.

[MOBGangsta184]

It's a magnetic stylus that wakes the phone up removal as well:eek:

[ryanwood]

you changed your first post when I replied....

[ranmasaotome510]

you changed your first post when I replied....

actually i just made it more understandable as i could see as why it was a tab bit confusing, and i made everything just overall more oraganized.

[Juicy47]

288MB RAM, not 228MB ... as per Engadget

[domineus]

the battery life is something that is a bit interesting. I wonder though, why don't people test the battery limits when multi tasking (eg texting/iming or actively online) for a better portrayal of battery limitations? But so far this is a fantastic phone. unfortunately, I expect to get it next year when it is sold on ebay, heavens knows verizon won't release it till a year after sprint gets it (see htc touch for a good example of that)
Verizon, get your game up, or I will jump the shark
edit
on the negative side, no windows soft key, and the keyboard is missing some vital keys I use on my mogul. What gives?

[kashabrown]

the battery life is something that is a bit interesting. I wonder though, why don't people test the battery limits when multi tasking (eg texting/iming or actively online) for a better portrayal of battery limitations? But so far this is a fantastic phone. unfortunately, I expect to get it next year when it is sold on ebay, heavens knows verizon won't release it till a year after sprint gets it (see htc touch for a good example of that)
Verizon, get your game up, or I will jump the shark
edit
on the negative side, no windows soft key, and the keyboard is missing some vital keys I use on my mogul. What gives?

I truly hope that Big RED won' wait as long as they did with the titan - This phone seems to solve both of the big negatives - screen resolution and RAM. Cannot wait until it comes out!!

[ryanwood]

would be nice, but I am not even going to get my hopes up thinking it will be with sprint... maybe if someone unlocks it we can use it on sprints cdma?

[gc14]

would be nice, but I am not even going to get my hopes up thinking it will be with sprint... maybe if someone unlocks it we can use it on sprints cdma?

The phone posted is a GSM phone. It doesn't have a CDMA radio therefore all the hacks in the world will not make it operate on a CDMA network. The only way you will see this phone on Sprint or Verizon is if HTC manufactures CDMA models.

[ponicg]

would be nice, but I am not even going to get my hopes up thinking it will be with sprint... maybe if someone unlocks it we can use it on sprints cdma?

I thought there will be a CDMA version. It's already confirmed in Sprint's roadmap, I thought?

[domineus]

thought that too considering these phones are upgrades to the mogul and the touch...I'm pretty sure there is a sprint model for this because if there isn't...I will be very mad :mad:

[Jeff Kirvin]

The Sprint version should be out in October. The only change I'm aware of (other than ditching the GSM radio for CDMA) is losing the forward-facing camera.

[EtherealRemnant]

Yeah I can't wait for the Sprint version...

However, I have some qualms about the claimed battery life... 8 hours seems ridiculous considering how WEAK the battery is... See reviews of the Touch Diamond for more info...

I get through the day on my Mogul and its got about 40-60% at the end of the day... doubt I could make it through the entire day with either the Diamond or the Touch Pro...

[MOBGangsta184]

The Touch Pro has a 1130 Mah battery vs the 900 Mah battery Found in the Touch Diamond.

[shield001]

What does the 4gb inter.... mean in the last pic on the side by the stylus??

[defaultdotxbe]

What does the 4gb inter.... mean in the last pic on the side by the stylus??
4gb internal memory

[shield001]

*Memory
- 512MB ROM, 228MB RAM

I was assuming it says that but it only has 512mb internal memory. So is the specs wrong or is this not a correct picture?

It could say 4gb internal Mirco SD or something like that meaning it's not SDHC capible but if our phones are SDHC capible then any newer models would be SDHC.

[shield001]

Also it says aGPS so it doesn't have GPS only assisted GPS. It's definately much better than our phones 64mb ram vs 228/288MB. But removing GPS is just odd since even blackberrys have GPS now.

[defaultdotxbe]

*Memory
- 512MB ROM, 228MB RAM

I was assuming it says that but it only has 512mb internal memory. So is the specs wrong or is this not a correct picture?

It could say 4gb internal Mirco SD or something like that meaning it's not SDHC capible but if our phones are SDHC capible then any newer models would be SDHC.
the touch Diamond has 4gb internal storage in addition to the rom (which is only 256 on the diamond) the Touch Pro (Raphael) does not


Also it says aGPS so it doesn't have GPS only assisted GPS. It's definately much better than our phones 64mb ram vs 228/288MB. But removing GPS is just odd since even blackberrys have GPS now.
HTC's website says both phones are GPS + aGPS

Touch Diamond http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286
Touch Pro http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49524

(click Specification in the Flash menu)

[ebb]

Two hopes:

1) That the battery spec is the same as in the 6800. I use the mugen 1800mah standard size and am very pleased with it.

2) That verizon will implement their announced policy of accepting hardware from other providers, as they have said they are as of this summer, so when the CDMA Sprint version comes out, there we go.

[gc14]

HTC Victor looks pretty nice too....decisions decisions...;)

[symyn]

Isn't Victor just a Diamond with a different case?

http://www.2dayblog.com/blog/2008/05/29/htc-victor-p9702/?lang=en

[shield001]

the touch Diamond has 4gb internal storage in addition to the rom (which is only 256 on the diamond) the Touch Pro (Raphael) does not

So the pic isn't of the touch Pro. got it.

USB with tv out sounds promising

I can imagine plugging my phone with a 32gb SDHC card into a friends tv and watching dvds

[blazingwolf]

Also it says aGPS so it doesn't have GPS only assisted GPS. It's definately much better than our phones 64mb ram vs 228/288MB. But removing GPS is just odd since even blackberrys have GPS now.

It has stand alone GPS. The AGPS lets the device also use the data network to get a fix faster.

[gc14]

Isn't Victor just a Diamond with a different case?

Different model number too. The case is a LOT nicer looking too, makes the phone look so much better than the diamond.

[l33tlinuxh4x0r]

maybe the victor is the cdma version. Wouldn't that be nice us get the better looking phone?

[ranmasaotome510]

Yeah I can't wait for the Sprint version...

However, I have some qualms about the claimed battery life... 8 hours seems ridiculous considering how WEAK the battery is... See reviews of the Touch Diamond for more info...

I get through the day on my Mogul and its got about 40-60% at the end of the day... doubt I could make it through the entire day with either the Diamond or the Touch Pro...

umm probably because the chipset and chips require alot less power to operate? lol duh. Otherwise we'll seen when its actually out.

[ppcboi318]

if verizon gets this i'm all over it

[Tregrad]

SLIDE TO THE LEFT !!!!!!!!! not the right

[kockroach]

SLIDE TO THE LEFT !!!!!!!!! not the right
I seem to recall that the 6700 would slide to the right. When I got my 6800, I kept wanting to go right with it. I think a slide to the right makes more sense...it puts the top of the phone on your left (and the D-pad on your right).

[Dc_striker]

only thing htc is missing is multi touch who agrees?

[Tregrad]

I seem to recall that the 6700 would slide to the right. When I got my 6800, I kept wanting to go right with it. I think a slide to the right makes more sense...it puts the top of the phone on your left (and the D-pad on your right).

I see what your saying and do agree with you except for one thing....most people drive with their left hand and hold the phone with the right and its easier to slide it to the left with your right hand thumb. now im not for texting wile driving, in fact i hardly text at all anyway. so maybe the sliding to the left may be better to have the d-pad on the right :cool:

any idea on what cost may be?

[defaultdotxbe]

I see what your saying and do agree with you except for one thing....most people drive with their left hand and hold the phone with the right and its easier to slide it to the left with your right hand thumb. now im not for texting wile driving, in fact i hardly text at all anyway. so maybe the sliding to the left may be better to have the d-pad on the right :cool:

any idea on what cost may be?
not even while driving, i just hold the phone in my right hand and it much easier to slide this way, i never owned a 6700 but i used one at the vzw store and the slider felt unnatural to me

[gTen]

I probably shouldn't hope that the cdma version will have wimax right? kinda sad though cause while the phone makes you want to upgrade....makes you think whats the point if wimax should already be running :/ (at least I think in new york it will by then)

I'll also probably miss the 2 buttons on top..Never really like the case..but I did like how mogul was designed that if you flip it sidewards, it looked like a game counsel that made it easier to play :/..while still retaining the phone look.

[pflatlyne]

I thought we got past all that agps vs gps junk six months ago. Remember when someone would ask if they were ever going to activate gps on the mogul and someone else would come back and talk down to them like they were stupid. They would explain in their condescending tone that the mogul 'only' had agps and that it would never have full gps capability.

AGPS is actually BETTER than normal gps. It can use the tower for faster locks,but falls back to regular gps when your out of tower range.

[Tregrad]

not even while driving, i just hold the phone in my right hand and it much easier to slide this way, i never owned a 6700 but i used one at the vzw store and the slider felt unnatural to me

yeah, after thinking it over I never really use the d-pad anyway and think using my left hand to slide it open would really be wierd and clumbsy. I was checkin out the at&t tilt....that phone is a pile.
I cant wait for the mogul replacement :D

[JustRay586]

i hope sprint gets it

[Keystone]

AGPS is actually BETTER than normal gps. It can use the tower for faster locks,but falls back to regular gps when your out of tower range.Exactly! It can be frustrating when long and often repeated FUD keeps getting presented. The assisted mode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS)is an addition to regular GPS functions and in no way negates location deriving from GPS satellites.

Yet, I remember in the leaked HTC internal Raphael/Diamond white papers that the new models are going to have eGPS (Enhanced GPS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_GPS)which is to be superior to Assisted GPS......... I doubt that has changed and the press released specs or third party reporting may be in error.

[glenl]

no roller wheel? I actually use that a lot... and I can't see if there's any buttons on the sides of the phone...

[rcintorino]

I talked to a guy at a sprint store , they said november 12th for the touch pro, I think the numbers were $378 with upgrade, and $699 flat out.

[Feyerman]

So whats different compared to this? http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/DisplayPhones?phoneSKU=MP6950SP

[jshaas2]

So whats different compared to this? http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/DisplayPhones?phoneSKU=MP6950SP

The Touch Pro uses a slide-out keyboard just like your PPC6800.

[findthisfunny]

Looks like it's finally official. HTC Touch Pro out Oct 26 (Sunday?) in select stores, Nov 2 everywhere else and online. $299 (upgrade).

http://gizmodo.com/5068305/htc-touch-pro-launches-on-sprint-october-26th

[miguelfp1]

Looks like it's finally official. HTC Touch Pro out Oct 26 (Sunday?) in select stores, Nov 2 everywhere else and online. $299 (upgrade).

http://gizmodo.com/5068305/htc-touch-pro-launches-on-sprint-october-26th

from discussions over at PPCGeeks, it's been said that the anonymous "select national retailers" it's the BestBuy Mobile that sell Sprint...

[findthisfunny]

Looks like Verizon is going to get it too in November:

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Hot-new-phones-coming-to-Verizon-next-month-article-a_3375.html