SPL 3.5 Question

[GenghisKhent]

Before I get flamed I did search first.

I have SPL 1.2 and have safely loaded new ROMs several times on my x7500.

I note some ROMs are for SPL 3.5 only.

My confusion is that there does not seem to be a generic SPL 3.5 as there is a 1.2 Instead, the SPL 3.5 seems coupled with a particular ROM, like AP 4.0. Or am I dead wrong (which as my wife will tell you happens all the time). If so, can someone just post the link to the generic SPL 3.5. Thanks.

[lakeman]

Hi Ghengis
SPL 3.5 came about because the athena project team wanted to port the OS off the new X7510 and it is too big to fit in the current partition on SPL 1.etc.
SPL 3.5 changes the configuration of the OS partition and trying to install the original ROMs does not work, hence the modified SPL 3.5 ROMs.
The Wrapper to instal SPL 3.5 is in the original AP4 updater and so far I don't think it is available elsewhere
hth

[GenghisKhent]

Lakeman, thank you. I guess the only way to get SPL 3.5 is to install AP 4.0 first. I guess I'll sit tight and see how the new ROMs shake out. I have the Irus vanilla ROM and it's doing OK. Thanks again.

[tovarish]

On a slightly tangential direction. What are the pros and cons of SPL 3.5 over SPL 1.2 other than the fact that there is no going back for SPL 3.5.

tovarish

[sergiopi]

Advanges? NONE :)
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all

[gtm55]

Advanges? NONE :)
If you want AP4 or AP5 you need SPL 3.x That's all

except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...

[tovarish]

except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...

So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.

thanks
tovarish

[irus]

So what is SPL then. Is it like a "bios" for the athena or is it just extremely low level drivers. Pardon my ignorance as I cant understand why the above mentioned things cannot work on SPL 1.2 with the appropriate software.
Please this is a genuine question as I would like to understand the software stack of the Athena.

thanks
tovarish

well htc album and htc home you can use with spl 1.2 but has far as the auto rotate i tried to make it work with the guidance of cmonex with no luck

edit: sorry i forgot this. if you try ap4 spl 1.2 you can have auto rotate but for some reason in that rom u are unable to connect to data.

[rorydaredkign]

spl is the secondary program loader [im guessing that, because ipl is intial program loader] it is what loads the os partition of the rom.

[PAPPL]

What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).

[tjwasiak]

What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).

Maybe try hard reseting... I don't have such issues, but I am on SPL 1.2...

[Tadeusz]

except accelerometer, htc album with built-in autorotation, big htc home...

The question was, what the advantage was of SPL3.5 over SPL 1.2, not advantage of one ROM over the other. There is no. Only SPL3.5 reformats all the memory in such a way that bigger ROM taken from X7510 (with more apps) can be put in speciall part of memory.

The point is that once you decide that you prefer to use AP4, you will get SPL3.5 with it no matter whether you like it or not. And next thing is that getting it on your machine is one way ticket, up to now, because AP team did not prepare any solution to return back to SPL1.2 nor 1.1.
So if you decide that AP4 or new AP5 beta gives you something you can not resist, then go for it and then wait antill AP team resolves problems with getting back to "standard" SPL1.2. They will do it eventually, just give them some time.

But if you do not want to risk, then go for SPL1.2 and then try some flavour of Irus ROMs which are, some say (including me), also very good if not the best. Luckily AP team and Irus are already working more or less together so we all can gain out of it.
Resently Irus has prepared a thin version of AP4 (meaning removed some apps) to be able to put the ROM in "standard" for X7500 SPL1.2. This means those apps can be installed later from cab installers, but I don't exactly now wich apps he romoved and if there are cabs for them somewere.
I personaly use his first WM6.1 version named "Full"and am very happy with it. I have installed a lot of apps starting from UL, with HTC Home, M$ Live, Google maps (or maybe it was alredy on board),Polish AutoMapa, 2 versions of Opera (both working great), all Resco possible, SPG Plus (now only to have some additions because UL is better), VoIP AgeePhone (I run VoIP network) and many, many more. All works well, no problems and if, then only to find the icon someware.

[Tadeusz]

What if i want to downgrade to another Radio-ROM if i already upgraded to SPL3.5? The 1.57 Radio doesn't reconnect to network if no signal for more than 1 hour (like at some places at work).

Just install Radio 1.50. Can use both with AP4.

[tovarish]

thanks a lot guys for your informative answer.
I have just bought a 7500 (prefer buttons over ssd) and am in the process of trying out stuff. I just couldnt figure out what SPL was.
I am already checking out irus' wm6.1 vanilla and already i prefer it over ap 3.0.

[GenghisKhent]

I appreciate all the responses to this thread I started. I've learned a lot.

I think I will stay with SPL 1.2 for now. But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.

[lakeman]

But I have a question. If I was inclined to use SPL 3.5, is the only way to get it to first load the AP 4 ROM. So if I wanted to try AP 5, I'd first have to load AP 4? Or does AP 5 also have a wrapper for SPL 3.5, as does AP 4? Thanks.

Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs

[GenghisKhent]

Sorry Ghenghis ,As Pawell says
THIS IS FOR SPL 3.5 ONLY!!! IT IS A FULL ROM ALSO AND A BETA
So you have to do AP4 first before trying the other SPL 3.5 ROMs

Thanks. I wasn't sure because the first post for the AP 5 beta states:

"now here is the rom(remember this is for spl 3.5 only): DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY"

But the "DOWNLOAD SPL 3.5 ONLY" link was to AP5.0Beta.rar, which appears to be the AP 5 beta, not SPL 3.5. Hence my confusion.

In any event, thanks for clearing this up.