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AllanonMage
11-06-2008, 06:05 AM
Hello all! I have a sad story and an opportunity.

Sad story: I forgot my Universal on top of my car today and when I came around a bend in the road, it was slung out into a highway. The first car dodged it, and the second car aimed for it. I have taken pics. I think ti would have survived the slinging, and I am testing to see if the mainboard survived being ran over.

Opportunity: I'd like to get a new one. I don't mind parts-ing one together either. I am comfortable buying on eBay, and I don't mind it if I have to pay for international shipping, but I'd prefer to buy from the US for quicker delivery time.

I was just about to start really customizing the ROMS and all that too....

Sigh.

I hafe attached pics of the carnage. The microSD card survived. I did pull all of my data off though. Luckily I had done a hard reset las week, so I had all my numbers backed up. The SIM card survived as well, and I am borrowing a phone I gave a firend for the time being.

galt
11-06-2008, 02:43 PM
Wow those are some scarey images! Sorry for your loss, but that needs to be a closed casket funeral...

I've been considering selling my Uni/JasJar, PM me if you're interested in buying a used device with a bit of wear.

flaviopac
11-06-2008, 02:53 PM
Oh my god............:(:(

Win_XP
11-06-2008, 03:54 PM
RIP Uni :eek: are you trying to disassemble it for some pics of motherboard? :)

beast0898
11-06-2008, 06:06 PM
It looks better than I would have thought after being run over. You may be lucky and Mobo may be ok. You can buy replacement screens and casings.

Was it a compact that ran it over ? Cause I really cant see the Uni being that strong?

There are quite a few Uni's going on the UK Ebay anywhere from $200 USD to $80 USD if you are patient enough.


Good luck with finding another!

joey7415963
12-06-2008, 12:05 PM
2 minutes silence for the Uni please......:(

AllanonMage
14-06-2008, 04:47 AM
I have purchased a B stock unit from eXpansys (the last one they had) for a decent price. Only problem is with the new unit, all I can do is get into the boot loader to see that it is version 1.00, and give it the hard reboot command. The unit appears to respond to the command but does not initiate the hard reset.

Hard reboot command I used: two soft buttons and the reset button.

Bootloader command I used: power, brightness, and reset button.

The bootloader does recognize that the difference between a USB and !USB connection. However, Windows consistently reports that the USB device has malfunctioned.

At first I thought it was a battery issue because the unit looks like it is brand new. So I waited patiently until I got home and tried all of the batteries I have here at the house. Yes, I was wary sticking the battery that was in the unit that was ran over into it, but I did try it. I have tried 3 chargers and two computers, and NADA. The only response I get from the device is using one of the two commands above.

Other random observations:

I tried inserting an old (disconnected but good) SIM card into it. Nada.

The battery was shipped in the battery compartment.

The backlight does work, as does the screen to some degree.

When I first plugged it into the charger, the battery status LED was red, as I anticipated.

The battery status indicator no longer turns red when the unit is plugged in. It does turn red when the battery is removed and power is applied.

Postulations at this point:

I wonder if I could load a ROM image to it?

I wonder if the battery is really charged.

Any and all help will be much appreciated on the matter.

AllanonMage
14-06-2008, 04:55 AM
RIP Uni :eek: are you trying to disassemble it for some pics of motherboard? :)

I have disassembled it already and done some preliminary testing. The power LED does illuminate RED. I have tried attaching a battery and holding it, but hats not producing anything. But then again the screen is cracked like its cool, so I don't know what to expect.

I'll post pics when I get a chance.

AllanonMage
14-06-2008, 04:57 AM
Was it a compact that ran it over ? Cause I really cant see the Uni being that strong?

There are quite a few Uni's going on the UK Ebay anywhere from $200 USD to $80 USD if you are patient enough.


Good luck with finding another!

It was one of those KIA/Mercades/lexus lifted CAR SUV things. They AIMED for it.

I looked on ebay, but I never though to check the UK side. Usually eBay does that for em for some reason....

AllanonMage
15-06-2008, 06:35 PM
I have had a couple of offers and much sympathy. Thanks!

My unit from expansys is up and running. I was up till 3 am saturday morning playing around with it. I stumbled across a few posts that gave instructions on how to deal with a potentially bricked device. As far as I can figure. my phone was shipped to me without an OS. I knew that PCs could do that, but can you just blank the OS on a phone? I can theoretically see how that might be possible, but why would that happen? Do they not get shipped out with OS's? that baffles me.

The specific process of deduction I used:
read the manual (the service manual from HTC). It said to either reload the ROM or the mobo was defective. I started looking on this forum for the procedures and files neccessary.

It seemed that my phone was not booting, so I looked into the ROM upgradeing/reflashing pages.

Links to pages I found useful:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=357
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367448
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing%20Guide
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_ROM_Upgrade
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Power%20consumption%20measureme nts%20of%20the%20HTC%20Universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Help%21%20I%20have%20problems%2 0with%20my%20car%20or%20USB%20charger%21%20It%20ju st%20doesn%27t%20charge%21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435

As you can see, the wiki was quite helpful for me. Thae list above is not inclusive. I thought I had bookmarked all the pages I found helpful, but it did not apepar to be so. I have done much reading on this forum, and I purchased my original Universal over a year ago. I say that to let any newbies know that this is not a simple process and should not be attempted until you have a clear picture of what's going on.

I also tried the set 0 14 procedure, but that sis NOT work in my case.

What finally got me was the imate ROM I have attached to this page. It was able to see my universal, but only when I was in the bootloader. I will say that again because it bears repeating. I put the phone into the bootloader and ONLY THEN could I update the ROM on the device. I found no instructions anywhere on this, I had to figure it out on my own. The way I discovered it though is kinda neat. When I just plugged the phone into my computer, windows would not recognize it and say that it malfunctioned. If I plugged it into my computer with it in the bootloader, I got that nice sound that windows makes when new hardware is found. Also, I tried the Universal RUU and it did not recognize that the phone was attached in either way. Lastly, I first tried the ROM update with the phone not int he bootloader, and the IMATE program didn't see the phone. I tried it with it in the bootloader, and it did its thing.

I have attached a few of the files I found useful. I found these on this site, in some posts.


This is not a formal writeup, so please forgive any grammatical errors or rambling. I just wanted to share what I found.


So I finally just switched the SIM card back into the new phone. I tried to get MMS going, and SAME FRAKKIN thing: small pics. ARGH!!

beast0898
16-06-2008, 08:35 AM
I have had a couple of offers and much sympathy. Thanks!

My unit from expansys is up and running. I was up till 3 am saturday morning playing around with it. I stumbled across a few posts that gave instructions on how to deal with a potentially bricked device. As far as I can figure. my phone was shipped to me without an OS. I knew that PCs could do that, but can you just blank the OS on a phone? I can theoretically see how that might be possible, but why would that happen? Do they not get shipped out with OS's? that baffles me.

The specific process of deduction I used:
read the manual (the service manual from HTC). It said to either reload the ROM or the mobo was defective. I started looking on this forum for the procedures and files neccessary.

It seemed that my phone was not booting, so I looked into the ROM upgradeing/reflashing pages.

Links to pages I found useful:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=357
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367448
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing%20Guide
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_ROM_Upgrade
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Power%20consumption%20measureme nts%20of%20the%20HTC%20Universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Help%21%20I%20have%20problems%2 0with%20my%20car%20or%20USB%20charger%21%20It%20ju st%20doesn%27t%20charge%21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435

As you can see, the wiki was quite helpful for me. Thae list above is not inclusive. I thought I had bookmarked all the pages I found helpful, but it did not apepar to be so. I have done much reading on this forum, and I purchased my original Universal over a year ago. I say that to let any newbies know that this is not a simple process and should not be attempted until you have a clear picture of what's going on.

I also tried the set 0 14 procedure, but that sis NOT work in my case.

What finally got me was the imate ROM I have attached to this page. It was able to see my universal, but only when I was in the bootloader. I will say that again because it bears repeating. I put the phone into the bootloader and ONLY THEN could I update the ROM on the device. I found no instructions anywhere on this, I had to figure it out on my own. The way I discovered it though is kinda neat. When I just plugged the phone into my computer, windows would not recognize it and say that it malfunctioned. If I plugged it into my computer with it in the bootloader, I got that nice sound that windows makes when new hardware is found. Also, I tried the Universal RUU and it did not recognize that the phone was attached in either way. Lastly, I first tried the ROM update with the phone not int he bootloader, and the IMATE program didn't see the phone. I tried it with it in the bootloader, and it did its thing.

I have attached a few of the files I found useful. I found these on this site, in some posts.


This is not a formal writeup, so please forgive any grammatical errors or rambling. I just wanted to share what I found.


So I finally just switched the SIM card back into the new phone. I tried to get MMS going, and SAME FRAKKIN thing: small pics. ARGH!!

Hi,

Some of the commands for MTTY are not in the standard bootloader command list, best advice is to supercid your device (this will help in recovery if things go wrong later too) then once supercid is complete, upgrade the Bootloader version and flash a complete Rom to the device, radio, extended and OS in one flash.

All info is in the Wiki mate, if you need any further help, post back to us or PM me.

Glad you got a device back up and running, ca'nt you sue the guy for intentionally hitting your old one................LoL!


Cheers,



Beasty