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yallow

11-06-2008, 02:45 PM

I am a WM user for 4 years now. My first device was Magician, second one is Polaris and the next one will be Iphone 3G.

I love HTC, they make perfect phones and the price does not bother me, neither lack of video drivers does. I always admired all the latest technologies they include in their phones (3MP camera, 3G+HSDPA, GPS, etc..).

The only thing I don't like in HTC is ... MICROSOFT WINDOWS. I hate using stylus. It is absolutely not user-friendly.

Now, with HSDPA and GPS in Iphone I am willing to sell my polaris. Just after 5 months of using! I used my magician for 3 years before and thought I will keep my new one for another 3 years. But I give up now. I want to buy a brand new Iphone now. Never used apple products before (even Ipod).

So, my question is - do you guys know any forum similar to this one (technical), but related to Iphone stuff?

Thank you for answers and sorry for leaving you in advance.

joey jojo

11-06-2008, 02:58 PM

I understand and do myself feel that we are being cheated, but i say you should search google with " iphone discussion forum" and that search will lead you rightto one, i have seen a few, i dont have an iphone,(i might get one when the video calling gps one comes out.) but i do browse to see what iphone users azre getting up to with there devices.

g oogle is your best friend.:cool:

madinga

11-06-2008, 08:46 PM

Mate, don't do it. The new iPhone only has a 2 Meg pixel camera, and you'll be tied into some ghastly price plan for life. Wait for the Raphael, which is personally my Holy Grail of phones. Ah, a real keyboard. soooo yummy

I agree about Windows Mobile, it sucks. And the new HTC Flo nonsense looks rubbish aswell, but you know....

Apple announced NOTHING exciting (appart from MobileMe, where the HELL is windows contact/calendar over-the-air synching without Exchange????). But still they gave ir a huge launch. 3G and GPS - big deal!

omaga

11-06-2008, 09:14 PM

or the new Samsung i900 Omnia http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia-2422.php seems to be very interesting device. I propebly sell my polaris and buy a Iphone or this Samsung. In some way im to bored with the htc policy with their devices, first i have the Trinity and waited if htc could atleast make a wm6 update on trinity..but now way..then Polaris with this driver issue forexample. Polaris may be my last htc device. The only thing which is very good to have a Htc device is this forum or the hole xda developers www site

gnick666

11-06-2008, 10:58 PM

I'll wait and see what can Android bring out of my Polaris... I like the design of the polaris, and with Android it'll be better... and more finger friendly...

sonus

11-06-2008, 11:49 PM

Wait for the Raphael, which is personally my Holy Grail of phones. Ah, a real keyboard. soooo yummy
...
Apple announced NOTHING exciting (appart from MobileMe, where the HELL is windows contact/calendar over-the-air synching without Exchange????). But still they gave ir a huge launch. 3G and GPS - big deal!

I definitely would not say that the Raphael is the Holy Grail of phones. In fact it is far from it. The raphael is just a Kaiser with a flush screen and prettier touch flo. Big deal, nothing new.

Now I am a huge WinMo fan, but I can still say that the iPhone while it may not be a Holy Grail either, it is still the standard to which all high end phones are being held. It is far from perfect yes, but nonetheless it is the current standard. I'd venture to say that the majority of us that aren't switching b/c we are waiting for some little details in the form of functionality that we've enjoyed with our HTC phones. For some that may be 3G and GPS, for other such as myself 3rd party apps (VOIP!!!), and better bluetooth support (A2DP and tethering). For you that is clearly windows contact/calendar over-the-air synching without ExchangeApple is getting closer and closer to closing in on its list of inadequacies with the iPhone, HTC on the other hand is not (and yes I realise that may be b/c they are tied down to WinMo 6.1).

I don't see any WinMo phone coming anywhere near where I or I would assume most of us want until Windows Mobile 7 is released. Windows Mobile 6 is just too slow, too small button oriented, too menu driven, and too lacking innovation (seriously, the UI is pretty much the same as its been ever since WinCE days back in 2000 or earlier).

Rudegar

12-06-2008, 12:29 AM

well Raphael got vga over kaiser but then with smaller screens not everybody may notice

the thing that wm got going for it is lots of programs free ones and comercials ones
vs. iphone and android but with time it's not a good sleeping pillow for ms

kinda funny that while the pc world is unhappy with the current ms offering of vista
and want the next thing windows 7

pda owners are unhappy what wm6.1 can offer vs. the compatition so they want the next thing windows mobile 7

wonder if ms will release them at the same time :P :S :O

dortyboy

12-06-2008, 01:07 AM

i love windows mobile and will not buy iphone. i was just in an att store today and the guy told me besides the phone being slash by half. u have to pay a huge fee to sign up for service. somewhere over $100. he said it would better serve u if u already had an iphone and wait for an upgrade rather than buying the new one.
as for htc. i am done with them. i wish i could find one of the developers and kick there ass. i am moving to another maker as soon as one catches my interest.

hambola

12-06-2008, 01:41 AM

Yeah seriously WM6 is a dated wack ass looking piece of work. All this Touch Flo nonsense is just HTC trying to give their devices a fresher look. Otherwise you'd be staring at that boring ass Today screen that doesn't look good in the ads. Even Apple had to use a screenshot of WM in their keynote speech at WWDC '08 as a joke (how background apps run). This is in addition to the ActiveStink comment, which might be warranted, but I digress.

Point is, it does need to be seriously freshened up as an OS which is what WM7 is all about. However that's still a ways away. Plus barely any WM phones out there have gesture sensors or multi-touch screens anyway. Actually I don't know any that have both. 2 things the iPhone has had since last year. I am also curious as to what Android will bring to the Polaris, but I'm fed up with this dated WM6 OS (and lack of drivers).

yallow

12-06-2008, 01:57 AM

omaga

12-06-2008, 09:12 AM

Hey, what's the point? Omnia is just another WinMo shit! If you consider WinMo - Polaris is the best thing to buy! IMO.

Yes ofcourse omnia is a wm phone. that wasnt my point. The point was how htc treads us comsumers, selling unfinnish products, you buy a expensive phone and things are missing in the phone which will be upgrade in the NEXT model. I like win mobiles no doubt about that and now im thinking Symbian vs Win. Sorry to say but did you read the Omnia spesifications at all? much better that Polaris?
Omnia kick ass with polaris from that point of view

mikee5402

12-06-2008, 01:26 PM

Guys I have both the Orbit 2 and the first gen Iphone and both have there advantages.

However these are being eroded with Iphone 3G, namely GPS and 3G data access.

I have to admit the interface on the iphone is simply incredible, fast and accurate glass screen that does not scratch. it is an absolute joy to use.

is is intuitive at performing ANY function were the Orbit you have to think about what you are doing and then some. The interface on the Orbit is clumsy at best, whilst typing is a joke compared to the iphone, it's keyboard is a joy to use, I can type faster on it than I could achieve on my blackberry.

and to boot the build quality of the iphone is leagues ahead of the HTC product.

The facts are WM6.whatever is slow, cumbersome and needs the update now.

I will still use my Orbit2 as the PC modem function is superb but once the iphone 3G comes is released I would have to say it will get a lot less use.

Ey3

12-06-2008, 01:47 PM

Honestly. I was an huge fan of Symbian phones. Now the Polaris is my first WM device and I really like it. After a couple of customizations the device is "fingerfriendly" and I can't remember when I was using the stylus the last time.

But this is not the point. I prefer the Polaris all over the IPhone (3G) because...

... I like to change my battery on my own
... I like to send MMS
... I like to have at least an 3 MP camera on board
... I like to decide to customize the software on my own
... I like to decide who my operater of choice is
... and so on

and compare to the first IPhone the new one is build out of plastic, has still the same "features" and the "innovation" is nothing new.

I am waiting for the Raphael to exchange it with my Polaris. It gives me the freedom I used to have and the hardware features I prefer. :)

mikee5402

13-06-2008, 12:33 AM

I can answer all those must haves apart from change battery as yes, just 'get an unlocked iphone' it gives you all those features.

Even the 2Mp camera on the iphone is comparable to the Orbit 2 3Mp.

However in the end everybody to their own.

Simply put IMO the Polaris is not finger friendly at all, the crappy plastic screen that scratches too easily is very un-responsive unless you use a stylus which defeats the object of having a touch screen phone.

I will admit the Polaris is a feature laden beast that has many strong points, but its operational method and UI cannot even come close to the Iphone, it is like comparing Mac OSX Leopard to Windows 95, the difference is that great.

hambola

13-06-2008, 01:39 AM

I can answer all those must haves apart from change battery as yes, just 'get an unlocked iphone' it gives you all those features.

Simply put IMO the Polaris is not finger friendly at all, the crappy plastic screen that scratches too easily is very un-responsive unless you use a stylus which defeats the object of having a touch screen phone.

I can give you a much bigger list of things that you probably can't do even with a jailbroken iphone.

As for a screen that scratches, are you using a protector on there? Shouldn't be getting any scratches. I've heard others that don't use a screen protector and say they aren't getting any scratches either but i'm not willing to take the risk.

Isaygarcia

13-06-2008, 01:59 AM

i dont really like the iphone's interface.. is.. bored.. maybe with a lot of graphic effects but is just VERY SIMPLE.. many programs for windows mobile can emulate that.. but iphone will never do what windows mobile does..
ORGANIZE..

because is not the same to have a folder for each thing than use a scrollable screen for all..

nir36

15-06-2008, 02:01 AM

you should realize once and for all that there are different perfect phones for different people.
i love my polaris.. because it's a small, light device, with GPS and 3G ability.. which i will start using soon.
while other people prefer bigger screens they can buy 3.5inch screens.. i can't stand it.. but the iPhone 3G is good for them.

while i like having a modular operation system.. even tho windows mobile is not perfect, other people love having everything built in, such as in the iPhone. some other people don't mind about GPS.. .. i do.
but there isn't one best phone.. there are a few... depending on the needs of every individual.

dfields

16-06-2008, 08:20 AM

What about the Sony Ericsson Experia X1. At first glance, I think it's more powerfull than the Iphone 3G, HTC Diamond (and variants), and the TC. It's WM based, 800x408 resolution, small, light, and works in the US.

I am a WM user for 4 years now. My first device was Magician, second one is Polaris and the next one will be Iphone 3G.

I love HTC, they make perfect phones and the price does not bother me, neither lack of video drivers does. I always admired all the latest technologies they include in their phones (3MP camera, 3G+HSDPA, GPS, etc..).

The only thing I don't like in HTC is ... MICROSOFT WINDOWS. I hate using stylus. It is absolutely not user-friendly.

Now, with HSDPA and GPS in Iphone I am willing to sell my polaris. Just after 5 months of using! I used my magician for 3 years before and thought I will keep my new one for another 3 years. But I give up now. I want to buy a brand new Iphone now. Never used apple products before (even Ipod).

So, my question is - do you guys know any forum similar to this one (technical), but related to Iphone stuff?

Thank you for answers and sorry for leaving you in advance.

Bodisson

16-06-2008, 11:49 AM

dfields

18-06-2008, 07:33 AM

Don't forget... it'll be made by HTC!
And biig display is worth nill if not supported by applications.
Except if your main goal is to have nice media reproductor combined with phone ;)

Touch Pro looks like killer device ATM...

In general, I agree with you that higher resolution need to be supported by the apps. However, I've also go an Imate 6150, and I used to have an ETEN x800, and I can tell you that even though most of the apps didn't make the best use of the real estate, that the text was much more readable, colors were sharper, icons looked better, etc.

If it weren't for the crappy ROM that comes with the Imate, I would be using it now. And unfortunately, the hacker community for Imate devices isn't as developed as it is for HTC devices.

Of course the other downside to VGA (or higher) is higher power consumption.

Dave

surgex0

19-06-2008, 05:40 PM

WELL, i've made many comments in the polaris forum about how I hate my device and I can't wait until the iphone v2 3g to come out...and it's finally here!!

The polaris is a piece of crap..plain and simple
Just to re-iterate, i paid 850$ for this thing, and most of the "features" are completely unusable. I could go on and on, but since someone mentioned the camera of the iphone/v2 I'll speak a little about my experience with the cruise camera.

The camera on the polaris will not even take semi-decent pictures unless there's ALOT of light, and even when there is, it lags the f--- out of the device..The cam on the iPhone has neither of these problems. Also, why the hell does the polaris camera take 5-10 seconds to take the actual pic after you press the button? I've NEVER seen a camera that performs that poorly...and if you move it the slightest during that time, the pic comes out all blurry. In other words -- COMPLETELY unusable -- Unless of course you carry a tripod around in your backpack / briefcase all the time. Then by all means, the cruise camera is definitely for you!

Yes the iphone is not as open as windows mobile, and yes it's going to take some time before we start seeing the aps that there are currently for winmo ported to the iphone. Since I have alot of money to blow, I'm going to get one. I've also been looking for an excuse to ditch my polaris ever since I bought it, and I guess this is just what I was looking for :D

I'm sure the touch pro / rapheal will be a nice phone (alot better than any iphone imho, just from specs), and I will probably end up buying that when it comes out -- unless HTC screws it up or does what they did before.

However, my overall feeling about HTC is there are absolutely and positively NO EXCUSES for what they did with the touch/kaiser/cruise/mogul/etc. I mean come on, they released a whole line of devices (not just one device) where they advertised features and performance that were just not present, and then basically said "the hell with it, we give up, but if you want these features that we told you about, you're gonna have to buy our new products..."

There is nothing they can do that will ever make up for that - even if their newer products are sweet, people will always remember when HTC showed their true colors, and duped all of their loyal customers.

AS for android - the betas look impressive, but I just can't wait any longer. I will definitely consider putting it on the touch pro, when I get my hands on one.

brucewilsonpa

19-06-2008, 07:44 PM

WELL, i've made many comments in the polaris forum about how I hate my device and I can't wait until the iphone v2 3g to come out...and it's finally here!!

The polaris is a piece of crap..plain and simple

I'm sorry to hear you've had such negative experience -- my experience with the TC is quite the opposite, although perhaps my usage is different enough I've not seen the things to which you point.

One very big negative for me with the iPhone 3G: I had 2 iPhones, an 8G and a 16G (yeah, I'm dumb -- couldn't make a decision -- sold the first one after 2 weeks then decided I should really give it a better trial -- that one lasted 8 weeks) -- I can't stand the constraints that Apple puts on these products. Both of my iPhones were "jailbroken" so I downloaded a number of apps and tried them, But neither the Apple-basic stuff nor any of the apps then available could give me anything even approaching the usability of my WinMo devices (and I've been thru a lot as my sig line shows). The 3G will probably not be jailbroken so that means your only source of apps is Apple and, no matter what "they say" I doubt there will ever be as many free apps as we routinely get for the WinMo OS.... and a hunch suggests they'll be a lot more expensive (I purchased only one for my iPhones -- $40 for a camera app -- ridiculous!). Moreover, ATT is really keeping a clamp on their iPhone business. I just discovered that they locked me into a 2-year contract when I activated my first iPhone -- I'd thought the 2 year thing was tied to buying a phone thru them -- no way -- merely activating one does it. And I don't recall ever seeing, let alone agreeing to these terms. I'm in a battle with ATT now since I really never got much use out of iPhones on their service (just popped my SIM card into the phone and started using it -- but the catch is having to download and install iTunes to sync it -- that's where I must have "activated" it). It's a nicely designed UI but IMHO very, very limited in usability.

NikMel

19-06-2008, 08:00 PM

Dear surgex0,

This things are just software issues. There is nothing wrong with the TC!
If you want I can share my ROM and I dare to say that you will be impressed about the performance of your TC.

NikMel

WELL, i've made many comments in the polaris forum about how I hate my device and I can't wait until the iphone v2 3g to come out...and it's finally here!!

The polaris is a piece of crap..plain and simple.

rklosinski

19-06-2008, 08:56 PM

Well, I used both. Went from HTC Cruise to the iPhone, and am returning to the HTC Cruise. For my its simple:

1) if you want a simple, easy phone experience, us an iPhone.

2) if you want the most from you handheld device, use WM.

I love the easy user interface of the iphone. but, its exchange compat sucks (im a beta tester), its slow to respond sometimes, the camera sucks, 3rd party apps functionality is limits by apples sdk, and the usage charges are higher.

With my cruise, there are basically no limits on what I can do. I will be modifying the user interface to use as much as 'touch' based programs as possible, which will encompass most everything i do on a day to day basis.

victoradjei

19-06-2008, 11:07 PM

hambola

19-06-2008, 11:20 PM

Surgex0, I think we've touched on this topic a couple of times in some other threads. I think functionality wise the TC is great, it just lacks that something that the iPhone has. Maybe it's the fluidity, where stuff just works smoothly. I am able to do more with my device than i would be able to with an iPhone, however I would like for the device to be a bit more responsive, for lack of a better word. In the end I'm sure you know all these things and each person has their requirements and what they are willing to live with. I'm sure you've evaluated the situation and decided on what's best for you.

surgex0

20-06-2008, 12:01 AM

u know whats crazy? i think my TC actually broke today, as I was typing my last post...i'm finding my screen goes out of alignment every 5 minutes and I have to keep re aligning via the system settings...:| nuts!

anyways - i know what u guys mean tho...if u use software thats specifically for win mobile of course ur gonna love it and stay loyal...i don't really...i just like to browse web, use gps, ims, email, and a few other things that i'm sure will be available on the iphone v2 in time. What I am hoping for is that more and more people will be able to unlock functionality of the iphone v2 and make it do everything an HTC can do (without the lag).

i do not use my TC for business really...unless you count email as business. my work doesn't have any mobile apps...just lotus notes - and the mobile client is SOO slow on my tc I decided not to bother with it. If I did use my phone for business activities there's no way I would ever go with the iPhone.

Despite all the bad stuff about the iphones, IMHO apple seems to care alot more about their mobile platform than microsoft or even HTC does. They advertise more, they seem to attract more people, and they seem to not lie to us, like HTC does. Also, I'm gonna say price is definately a factor...I love what apple is doing with the price. HTC unfortunately isn't following suit. To this day I still can't believe I bought an almost 900$ phone that doesn't even work how I expected it to :|

3GDozer

29-07-2008, 09:09 PM

all smartphones are just wanna-be 3G iPhones - the new iPhone 3G is second to none, and if Apple actually made it available for 199 bucks...without contract -- just imagine...

dysolve

30-07-2008, 12:07 PM

i think i might now understand these phones
HTC device = phone with a gadget attached
iphone = ipod with phone attached..

I think they a both completly different things and they both do what they are ment to do but the one thing apple has over HTC is customer service and they tell the truth about and fully support there devices. apple tells everybody what the iphone can and can not do but HTC pretends that there devices are the be-all and end-all which they are not. from what people who have told me about eh iphone is that before it jail broken, it works great as a ipod but the phone is lacking , once jail broken its pot luck if they work at all. now with my polaris I have never had issues with the phone but the gadget part just does not always do what i want it to.

dysolve

30-07-2008, 12:10 PM

all smartphones are just wanna-be 3G iPhones - the new iPhone 3G is second to none,

where is the proof of that statement? and will you still be saying this in a few months when YOU think something else is the bomb!

and if Apple actually made it available for 199 bucks...without contract -- just imagine...

just imagine if we all drove supercars!

surgex0

04-08-2008, 07:55 PM

I actually bought an ipod touch recently...and I think it's one of the most amazing devices I've ever seen..but it's not without it's issues.

The main problem (imho) with the polaris is the screen and user interface. They made it seem like the device is touch-friendly, but it isn't -- the bottom line is that the device is made to be used with a stylus! Think about it, if it was a real touch device, they wouldn't have included a stylus / slot for one with the device -- you wouldn't need it! What I am still mad about is that in the advertisements they made it seem like the screen was exactly like the iphones and that it was a true touch friendly device.

Apples touch screen actually works how it's supposed to.. It's designed for use with skin/fingers perfectly, and won't even work with a stylus. HTC's touch-flo is a piss poor solution for turning a stylus-tap screen into a finger friendly screen. It just doesn't work right. IT's a software solution to something that needs to be taken care of at the hardware level. IT's funny how apple's first ever multi-function-device / pda phone has a more advanced screen and features than htc -- who has been making devices for years. You can blame it on windows mobile all you want, but the actual hardware (touch screen, processor, hardware media decoder, graphics acceleration) of the iphone/itouch is way more advanced than anything from HTC.

Apples iphone OS has alot of problems though. You need to hack the crap out of it just to be able to do the simple things you could normally do on windows mobile. And alot of the software in the app store is very expensive, and there aren't even any trial versions (for example, the VNC client called teleport or something like that is $25.99!). I refuse to purchase anything from the app store and I have mine loaded with all cracked apps and games.

Which leads me to the conclusion, as to why I bought an ipod touch rather than an iphone -- despite all the problems HTC devices have; a majority of them (not including the polaris imho) are good productivity tools. Apple tries to make it seem like the 3g can be (notice their comercials showing push mail / activesync compatibility), but at the end of the day it's really just a media player with a phone on it. If you want software for it, you're gonna pay out the ass for mediocre features. And the firmware that's out for it right now is buggy to say the least, and lacks the most basic features required for productivity we have become used to with windows mobile -- for example, applications running in the background, notifications, etc.

Now that HTC actually has some competition, maybe someday they will get their act together and start producing faster more finger-friendly devices that have the features of the iphone with the productivity and versatility of windows mobile.

The touch pro looks VERY promising. I have not had a chance to use a diamond yet, but the fact that it has no micro-sd slot is a huge turnoff...and most people who own one said it is slow with the stock rom (like most HTCs).

Bottom line is...don't get an iphone 1g/2g/anything. Apple are greedy as hell and make you pay for a god damn firmware upgrade. Can you believe that? I've never had one piece of hardware where I had to pay to get a new firmware. Completely rediculous.

If you're curious about the device, get an ipod touch. You can always use WMWifiRouter (an amazing software) to give the touch internet and use it as your media device / web browser, and continue to use your WM device as a PDA / Productivity / Business tool. It sucks carrying around two devices, but at the moment I feel that's the best possible solution.

Maybe the touch pro will eliminate the need for the ipod touch...I can only hope!

Rudegar

04-08-2008, 10:02 PM

"Think about it, if it was a real touch device, they wouldn't have included a stylus"

well i suppose there still are people who want to have their handwriting recognized
kinda hard using fingers
even if few people use it if htc dident include a stylus there would be an outroar

hambola

05-08-2008, 12:35 AM

Agreed, stylus would have been included regardless. If it wasn't people would complain. Can't make everyone happy.

However the hardware part, I do have to agree that Apple does include some decent hardware in the phone. while the iphone 2MP camera doesn't have autofocus or zoom or video or many features, it's way better in low light conditions. So we all know our HTC phones have bad cameras. I think the front VGA camera is better than the 3MP in the back on my Cruise. The screen is nice on the apple device, good resolution, very responsive touch screen (capacitive). Since the WM devices are pressure based, it would be nice to see apps that make use of variance in pressure on the screen, is that possible?

Just like HTC phones have their flaws, the iPhone, while a very slick fluid device does have it's flaws. the Mail app is a freakin joke. It's also buggy as hell, this is on the 3G iphone so using new firmware. It hangs on sending mails a lot and on connecting. Check out iphone forums and see how many people are complaining about that Mail connecting issue. Not able to attach anything more than a photo and only one at that.

On the surface the iPhone is a great device but leaves a lot to be desired after a few days of use. You end up not being able to get into the details of anything if you need to. And there is reason to. You end up being constrained by invisible barriers Apple sets up around the device, something that WM doesn't do.

Would like to see a WM device with the functionality WM is known for but with a fluid feel of an iPhone. I don't think it will happen, it's different ideologies. Even in WM7 we'll end up running some software for some old WM version and it will look obvious. Just like it's obvious underneath that Manila interface on the Diamond you're running an ugly WM OS that looks very dated. Or it will be some 3rd party software that doesn't adhere to strict standards that Apple puts on software for their devices.

In the end we all have a choice and can pick the device that works for us. In some cases people pick both. To each his own (second time I use that in a post today).

timmymarsh

09-08-2008, 08:56 PM

My two pence,

Apples are gr8 and look pretty, nothing else.

WinMo - lack prettiness but has WOW funcionality. Wm6 yes stock rom is slow, but thats why we cook? :D

Before my TCruise i had imate jamin, which i was faithfull to for 2 years. Ive just flashed it with cooked 6.1 and its as good as the T.C now (minus GPS).

I love my tc and yes vid drivers are a bitch, but its more of a business tool for me and now i have my jamin to play with. Playing with an apple becomes boring, the "oooooh cool" thing wears off quickly.

I will be sticking with winmo - i love playing too much - and when wm7 comes out and someone cooks, then it'll go on my tc:D

pistonripper

10-08-2008, 05:12 AM

Reading the above post....I feel its changing now, HTC are getting better..I know we got shafted with the Polaris, no drivers half arsed touch.
I now have a Diamond and honestly I cannot relate to all the post saying its slow lags etc. With the 1.93 ROM believe me its rapld. The touch feels like touch (have not had the need to use my fingernails yet)
That Touch 3D is rapid, and the dialer is smooth no lag whatsoever...YIPEEEE!
Its not rocket science as to why the iphone is smooth, the software is designed for one hardware platform, well the Touchflo3D is desgined for the diamond, thats why its fast.
Besides the iphone IS a brick compared to the diamond. If this a first of new gen phones from HTC, then good times ahead...
just my 2 pence/cents worth

timmymarsh

10-08-2008, 12:23 PM