View Full Version : What's up with G3 or G4???
Cphil1
16-06-2008, 03:25 AM
Okay guys,
I don't understand... I have a Wizard and I've been busting my head getting all the info and programs + roms and apps to upgrade my wizard to TNT Vanilla (with WM6.1).
This is the story, my wizard is ipl/spl 2.26. I currently have TNT 19199 / WM6 with radio 2.19... Works great! But get this, it's a G3 wizard!!!
Now as I was going through the screenshot tutorial to upgrade the wizard and I saw when I ran the wizard service tool, my pda was G3... So what do I do now??? Is it possible to upgrade my phone to a G4? some people said it was impossible to get wm6 on my phone, but I have it along with the tnt 19199...
I don't know if I should go ahead with anything until I find a solution. Help me out here guys.
Phil
ROCOAFZ
16-06-2008, 04:17 AM
G3 is great, you can flash any rom. G4, you couldn't flash if there was a radio or spl included. G4 is not an upgrade of a G3 and in fact is more likely especially with older roms to brick your phone.
S.V.I
16-06-2008, 05:21 AM
I have a g3. and have been flashing every rom there is. it is more of a hassel to deal with g4. consider your sell lucky.
starkwong
16-06-2008, 05:55 AM
G3 and G4 is difference of DoC chip, that is a hardware difference and not changeable through software.
G3 devices can be CID-unlocked to accept any ROMs by just using unmodified RUU package.
For G4 devices, CID unlock is not possible, however you can use HardSPL to let the device accept ROMs not for your CID, as soon as the ROM does not contain IPL and SPL.
zabardast_1
16-06-2008, 04:02 PM
Well,you already are on wm6 with TNT 19199,why can't you upgrade to wm 6.1,yes!you can.
G3 device is much easier to upgrade than G4,count yourself lucky there :D
Vanilla Rom is just a plain rom without any Applications/programs or very few of them,its basically provided for cookers who want to cook their own roms with applications/programs of their choice,but it can be flashed to any device.
Cphil1
16-06-2008, 05:24 PM
That's just it!
You're all telling me it's ok to flash and ok to set new roms on my G3...
What I do not understand is why in the "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" it's written that this upgrade is only for G4 phones only! Furthermore, I do not want to brick my phone either!
Maybe it's for this type of upgrade only...? In this case can one of you guys give me a link to upgrade that works???
Once I get the ok from you guys, I'll try to upgrade the TNT 19213 Pro or moderate edition. Seems like Vanilla really has nothing else than the basics...
Phil
P.s.- By the way, I keep on reading about UC included in these roms... That's a good thing right? I wonder exactly how it works...
zabardast_1
16-06-2008, 05:47 PM
When once you have already upgraded to wm6 TNT 19199 custom rom,did you get any problems,did your phone got Bricked,whats the problem now ?
I don't understand what exactly you are asking ?
Which "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" you are referring to,in which its written that this rom is for G4 devices only ? Just take my words,there's no such specific G4 rom only,all the custom build wm6 or wm6.1 roms are build for both the devices,G3 and G4,coz they do not have IPL/SPL included in them,only those roms which have G3 IPL/SPL included in them are dangerous for G4 phones,even all the official Stock roms have IPL/SPL in it for both the devices,it can be flashed to either of the versions without any danger, Yes! if any rom which only have G3 IPL/SPL flashed to a G4 phone will Brick it ,or a Rom with specific G4 IPL/SPL,if flashed to a G3 will Brick it also.But those are all old Roms,Now all the latest custom build Roms are build without any IPL/SPL in them,they all are absolutely confirmed safe for both the devices,ok
ashasaur
16-06-2008, 06:23 PM
oh my friend, I am sorry about that, I wrote that particular guide, and the instructions in the guide itself is only for G4 devices, the ROM that I mention in the guide and in the screenshots is just for example, it CAN be flashed to a G3. My particular device is a G4, so I wrote that guide from a G4 perspective. Sorry for the confusion!
zabardast_1
16-06-2008, 08:29 PM
ashasaur
Yeah ! right,thats nice of you to clarify the confusion,but I'll suggest,if you have not already rectified your guide,its better you rectify and clarify it in there too,so to avoid any further confusion and also clearly warn that its for G4 devices.
Cphil1
You shud have read the guide correctly,if you had,there wudn't be this confusion,Thats why its been emphasized over and again through the Forum,to read n read the guides to fully understand and only than proceed further,its for your own benefit.
Have a nice day ! :)
Cphil1
16-06-2008, 11:17 PM
Hey guys,
The craziest thing just happened... I went through all the steps, upgraded the pda. I saw the status bar and the rom completed it's upgrade!
Then my phone turns back on and it's my old TNT rom...? So no upgrade at all! What happened? Did I miss a step?
ROCOAFZ
17-06-2008, 04:34 AM
Hey guys,
The craziest thing just happened... I went through all the steps, upgraded the pda. I saw the status bar and the rom completed it's upgrade!
Then my phone turns back on and it's my old TNT rom...? So no upgrade at all! What happened? Did I miss a step?
sounds like your CID locked?
Try flashing the old button rom 1st then your carriers then the new rom. After which for new roms flash your carrier rom then any new rom. I find the amp 2.0 rom to be better then the tnt as in less buggy.
starkwong
17-06-2008, 05:11 AM
I bet you were using ShellTool when you upgrade to the old TNT ROM.
Now flash your original carrier ROM, then download IPL and SPL using button's ROM and perform full CID unlocking, then you can flash any ROM as you wish.
p.s. DON'T try to upgrade your IPL/SPL to 3.08 before full CID-unlocked!
Cphil1
17-06-2008, 06:41 AM
Okay guys,
I just got the update to work... It was simply that I ran the rom update setup from the tnt 19213 file.
The cut and paste indicated on the "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" didn't work. Bottom line, I now have the new tnt Professional rom (No Touchflo!) on my phone with wm6.1! Now I'm very happy and very grateful :D
I also got pim backup to restore all my files and contacts. Great little tool! Now I have to start customizing it with all the nitty gritty...
I'm looking forward to some advice on stuff to add onto this rom. I'm more of a graphic and games fanatic, so I went along and downloaded the vanilla fun pack.
By the way, does anyone know how to add color to the clock and icons display on the home screen? It's a bit bland all in white...
Phil
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