Performance Improvment - Kill BIOTOUCH.EXE

[Nadavi]

Hi,

I've noticed that the file biotouch.exe is always running. (it's the file that activated the Old Cube, that doesn't work in the diamond anyway).

So i killed the process with TaskManager2005 (google it).

It free's up memory, and makes the device snapier.

The question is, How to prevent it from running by default? on Startup?
Nadavi.

[panosha]

You can make a fake biotouch.exe and replace the real one, but i don't now if this realy makes the device snapier.

Something like that I had made here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269

[sushilange]

are you sure that biotouch.exe is just for the old cube?

i think it also implements the finger scrolling for all applications so that you don't have to use the old scrollbar with the stylus.

[flaviopac]

Yes, it's just for the Cube..
It's similar to the Elf one....


Just replace Biotouch.exe with a 0kb one...
Remember that there are also other applications releated to the cube (at least in Touch rom)...

[panosha]

I killed it :p but I don't see any difference in the efficiency and in the speed.

[flaviopac]

I killed it :p but I don't see any difference in the efficiency and in the speed.

You have more free ram....


EDIT:
HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&highlight=Disable+Cube) you have more infos.....;)

[Nadavi]

You have more free ram....


EDIT:
HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&highlight=Disable+Cube) you have more infos.....;)

Doesn't work.

The device just won't allow this file to be "deleted" \ "Overwritten"...

Nadav.

[s1rl4ncel0t]

I killed it as well, but nothing changed...everything remains the same.


But don't take me wrong. When I say everything remains the same, I mean everything remains GREAT!

This device has been the best HTC that I've owned until now :eek:



HastaSSSS

[leopardone]

mmm... dunno if it's only my impression, but killing biotouch.exe and changing it with a 0kb size file, after a sr my diamond SEEMS fast than before... :O

my 2c :)


btw: thx for the tip! :)

[Aqrab]

so guys does this works with no problem ?!

if so should i replace it with 0kb file or delete it ?

[panosha]

You can't replace or delete it. The The profit is 1-1,5 ΜΒ.

[Aqrab]

mm and someone tell us how mach program memory you get after that

[Mahmood]

mm and someone tell us how mach program memory you get after that

the memory went from 85% to 75% so a gain of 10 % impressive.

[Nadavi]

mmm... dunno if it's only my impression, but killing biotouch.exe and changing it with a 0kb size file, after a sr my diamond SEEMS fast than before... :O

my 2c :)


btw: thx for the tip! :)

Hi,
How did you managed to replace the file?

Edit:
This is how to:

1. Kill BIOTOUCH.exe
2. Install this cab provided.

Nadavi.

[oddball1]

Hi,
How did you managed to replace the file?

Edit:
This is how to:

1. Kill BIOTOUCH.exe
2. Install this cab provided.

Nadavi.

I get this message that it won't let me install the .cab

[leopardone]

I get this message that it won't let me install the .cab

mmm why don't you kill the process with TaskManager2005 (google it) and replace the original file with a 0k size one?
I'm telling you this because I'm a TOTAL noob but I did it :)

[oddball1]

mmm why don't you kill the process with TaskManager2005 (google it) and replace the original file with a 0k size one?
I'm telling you this because I'm a TOTAL noob but I did it :)

Did it and replaced it with a 0kb file... thankx man..

[panosha]

I can't copy fake BIOTOUCH.exe in windows folder, with resco explorer !!! :confused:

[Nadavi]

I get this message that it won't let me install the .cab



I can't copy fake BIOTOUCH.exe in windows folder, with resco explorer !!! :confused:

Kill the BIOTOUCH.exe Process first.
Then install my cab file.

[panosha]

Kill the BIOTOUCH.exe Process first.
Then install my cab file.
It works !!! :)

With Europe WWE 1.37.405.1, I have 1,5 MB more program memory.

[Nadavi]

It works !!! :)

With Europe WWE 1.37.405.1, I have 1,5 MB more program memory.

Great :)

Nadavi

[tkhs]

make 0 byte StartUpBioTouch.exe and overwrite \windows\startupbiotouch.exe.
(use GSFinder, cannot overwrite default Explorer and Resco Explorer 2008)
I get free ram 1.5MB.
no probrem touch scrolling.

good info, thx

[JanDaMan]

HOLEY CRAP i think you have found the cause of the memory leak mine used to always end up above over 60% after a while even with all things closed. now its always in the mid 50's
NICE FIND!!

[khaf]

Thank you. It is great discovery.:)

[lightyuan]

Thanks

The effect is good ！

[Avantis]

You can also kill BIOTOUCH.EXE using SKTools and then use Nadavi's cab...Thanks Nadavi.

[phusebox]

taskmanager 2005 doesn't work for me? it just shows a black screen with tabs along the top... tried every tab

[panosha]

Unzip the file and run it from PDA.

[faethon]

Sounds like you've indeed found (one of) the memory leaks! Definitely more memory left free after killing BIOTOUCH.EXE and using the device! Nice find!

[phusebox]

got it, but still just maybe 1% more memory, still high in the 60's with NO running programs...

[Chatbox]

got it, but still just maybe 1% more memory, still high in the 60's with NO running programs...

Mine is 49% used (55.24MB out of the 113.07MB) upon power up with no program running.

What have you installed on your device to have it in the high 60's? There must be something running in the background or something (e-mail sync, RSS feed/sync, extra fonts, weather sync...etc)?

[leopardone]

i’m using no threaded sms mode and, when I read a message, AND I SLIDE TO THE RIGHT WITH MY FINGER, the system crashes telling me that the file biotouch.exe is not working (or something like that).
so I must soft reset...

[Nadavi]

i’m using no threaded sms mode and, when I read a message, AND I SLIDE TO THE RIGHT WITH MY FINGER, the system crashes telling me that the file biotouch.exe is not working (or something like that).
so I must soft reset...

thats right!

That's a problem.

You can uninstall me cab file.

Nadavi.

[phrozact]

i’m using no threaded sms mode and, when I read a message, AND I SLIDE TO THE RIGHT WITH MY FINGER, the system crashes telling me that the file biotouch.exe is not working (or something like that).
so I must soft reset...
So looks like there's a use for that .exe after all, but if it's just for non-threaded SMS gestures, that's fine with me since I like teh threadedness.

[leopardone]

is there any possibility to DISABLE the biotouch.exe request in sms viewer? AND everywhere (in doubt...)?

[phusebox]

Mine is 49% used (55.24MB out of the 113.07MB) upon power up with no program running.

What have you installed on your device to have it in the high 60's? There must be something running in the background or something (e-mail sync, RSS feed/sync, extra fonts, weather sync...etc)?

no email sync
no rss
no extra fonts
no weather sync

only a profile manager (phoneweaver)

[Chatbox]

i’m using no threaded sms mode and, when I read a message, AND I SLIDE TO THE RIGHT WITH MY FINGER, the system crashes telling me that the file biotouch.exe is not working (or something like that).
so I must soft reset...

I'm having the same problem...but IN THREADED sms mode (same procedure). Looks like BIOTOUCH.exe is needed...for either mode.

[leopardone]

I'm having the same problem...but IN THREADED sms mode (same procedure). Looks like BIOTOUCH.exe is needed...for either mode.

mmm since I hate threaded mode, I don't know, but if I don't slide my finger, all works smoothly.
I need only to pay attention... :|

[Reason4444]

I need original "StartUpBiotouch.exe" file in Windows folder...

Please help...

[xwaiz]

I need original "StartUpBiotouch.exe" file in Windows folder...

Please help...

Just delete the zero byte StartUPBiotouch.exe, the original StartUPBiotouch.exe will reappear.

[Reason4444]

Just delete the zero byte StartUPBiotouch.exe, the original StartUPBiotouch.exe will reappear.

Thanks a lot... Issue solved..

[falojjah]

Unzip the file and run it from PDA.

thank you panosha its work greet :D

[Ronnymes]

I found someone on a Dutch forum, who's having troubles with his email.
He can't scroll to the left or right, and get this message : can't find biotouch.exe

[ceevee369]

I found someone on a Dutch forum, who's having troubles with his email.
He can't scroll to the left or right, and get this message : can't find biotouch.exe

Hoi Ronny, the answer / explanation is a few posts up.
Too bad this is only a workaround as the memory leak on Elite V1.0 forces me to reset each 1-2 hours whith moderate usage...

Draining from 36mb in programs to barely 5mb is not what you can call "efficient" :(

[JanDaMan]

Yeah, biotouch is neede for side to side scrolling on email, seems like a rather memory hogging process for such a little bit of functionality,

ALSO there is something else i have found! its happend twice now, if i leave my phone in sleep for a while and then turn it back on, it says 'launching touch flow' like it says after you have soft reset it... not sure if that this biotouch or my new 1.37 ROM... but its a new bug, and not consistently reproducible, seems sporadic. hmmm maybe i will try that new cooked ROM... l8r perhaps, need sleep... lol

[s1rl4ncel0t]

Yeah, biotouch is neede for side to side scrolling on email, seems like a rather memory hogging process for such a little bit of functionality,

ALSO there is something else i have found! its happend twice now, if i leave my phone in sleep for a while and then turn it back on, it says 'launching touch flow' like it says after you have soft reset it... not sure if that this biotouch or my new 1.37 ROM... but its a new bug, and not consistently reproducible, seems sporadic. hmmm maybe i will try that new cooked ROM... l8r perhaps, need sleep... lol

Same issue here, after I installed rom 1.37...

Happenend to me twice already.




Bye

[sunnycheng]

FYI, it happends on the 1.35 ROM also.


Same issue here, after I installed rom 1.37...

Happenend to me twice already.




Bye

[ceevee369]

For some reason the TLR Rom does not (or very very limited) seems to have the memory leak. I'll post other findings in the related TLR Rom thread.

[ceevee369]

Same issue here, after I installed rom 1.37...

Happenend to me twice already.
Bye

It is not a bug I think

Seems to be "standard" on all new ROM's. Same on TLR's.
It might be a new embedded 2-step process starting up Tochflo3D after the mobile loaded all other applic'a and dll's.
On some stock rom's like 1.34 WWW Hk it was already there, though it started up earlier.

[leopardone]

Yeah, biotouch is neede for side to side scrolling on email, seems like a rather memory hogging process for such a little bit of functionality,

ALSO there is something else i have found! its happend twice now, if i leave my phone in sleep for a while and then turn it back on, it says 'launching touch flow' like it says after you have soft reset it... not sure if that this biotouch or my new 1.37 ROM... but its a new bug, and not consistently reproducible, seems sporadic. hmmm maybe i will try that new cooked ROM... l8r perhaps, need sleep... lol

same here with 1.35.404.4 ITA and, also, sometimes the touchflo3d hangs... not letting me to use programs in "programs tab", showing me a message "can't find program" even if the program is normally installed and I can run it from the "normal" menu

[christis]

FYI, it happends on the 1.35 ROM also.

And on 1.34, so I guess it's a "generic" thing.

[Riel]

Having taskmgr, I see BIOTOUCH.EXE only uses 16kb of memory, phone is on without soft reset for about 3 days now ...

Using 1.37.707 asia rom with some general tweaks from schraps advanced config.

[czbird]

I have killed biotouch.exe process, and installed the disabling cab, so far everything's ok - no more biotouch in processes, no errors in SMS application in threaded mode - the font size gets changed as usual when scrolling around the middle button. Rom WWE 1.37

note - not using tf3d

[lepermessiah]

i've killed it, installed cab patch and it's working with no problems..no errors, no notifications about missing biotouch.exe...

[_wizo_]

HTC had no reason to include an application it their ROM if it wasn't needed.

The application is used wherever a "cube-like" action is requested.


For example kill biotouch, go to your mail and swing left to get to the next msg..

BOUM, phone freeze, soft reset.

At least this happened to me with a 1.93 ROM

[frewys]

I'm sticking with it.

takes about one meg of RAM. Hate crashes!!:(

[BlockbusterF]

Hi,

I know, a little late, but yesterday I also wanted to kill the Biotouch.exe and so I dicovered this thread.
I even didnt' know that I can swipe left to right in the message windows to change next/before.

So I never used it and don't need it, but possible crashes aren't acceptable for me.
So here is my solution. Works perfectly for me.

But this "fake" Biotouch.exe in your \Windows folder and everythings fine. Biotouch doesn't load and nothing crashes.
Of course you can't swipe messages in tmail.exe, but the left/right arrow buttons still work, so you can use these if you want to change messages.

Greets, fRED

[kenang83]

i have install the kill biotouch cab everything is fine and increase my speed. thanks

[c_shekhar]

Hi,

I know, a little late, but yesterday I also wanted to kill the Biotouch.exe and so I dicovered this thread.
I even didnt' know that I can swipe left to right in the message windows to change next/before.

So I never used it and don't need it, but possible crashes aren't acceptable for me.
So here is my solution. Works perfectly for me.

But this "fake" Biotouch.exe in your \Windows folder and everythings fine. Biotouch doesn't load and nothing crashes.
Of course you can't swipe messages in tmail.exe, but the left/right arrow buttons still work, so you can use these if you want to change messages.

Greets, fRED

Yes it has solved the problemssss and it works simply superfine....Thanks

[mmmhhh86]

I'm using SKTools and couldnt find the biotouch.exe process in the processes list..

[donsalari]

OK I am using my ROM. And i can't see BIOTOUCH.EXE in the task manager!!!
Awesome!! unkowning I have removed it from my ROM :) :)