[PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING"

[mike171562]

untouchable,

I downloaded your latest version from Connect-UTB, but booting on my DIAM100 always gives me:

mmc0:new MMC card at adress 0001
MMCBLK0 : mmc0:0001 000000000 392323425kb (size = good)
mmcblk0: unknown partition table

and then it hangs... ?


Try Rebooting first

[lrddp]

android-diam100-20090204
is the one im using and i have a sprint diamond and it logs in to andriod but the screen looks messed up the screen is not ajusted right its blurry and i cant press anything and have to rest an start windows mobile again

[irusul]

android-diam100-20090204
is the one im using and i have a sprint diamond and it logs in to andriod but the screen looks messed up the screen is not adjusted right its blurry and i cant press anything and have to rest an start windows mobile again

I have T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (T-Mobile version of HTC Touch Diamond). I putted android version android-diam100-20090204. It runs very well, i even can make phone calls and run apps, but there is a blue dot on the upper-left side of the screen and when i press some key the screens becomes blurry and messed and soft reset is required.

Can something be done to solve this problem.

[holydhaliwal]

I have T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (T-Mobile version of HTC Touch Diamond). I putted android version android-diam100-20090204. It runs very well, i even can make phone calls and run apps, but there is a blue dot on the upper-left side of the screen and when i press some key the screens becomes blurry and messed and soft reset is required.

Can something be done to solve this problem.

This is a cdma phone? are you're colors messed up?

[dejant_9]

I have T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (T-Mobile version of HTC Touch Diamond). I putted android version android-diam100-20090204. It runs very well, i even can make phone calls and run apps, but there is a blue dot on the upper-left side of the screen and when i press some key the screens becomes blurry and messed and soft reset is required.

Can something be done to solve this problem.

pfff...it's the old keyboard used for the old init.. Now the keyboard is hidden and this blue dot was maked to drag the keyboard...read this forum before posting please..And i know it's not very easy because there were a lot of stupid questions like that..Now, remember that android is in early stage of developement, and absolutely not a daily use OS, so this blue dot isn't an important problem.

So: problem solved.

[Jura_ZG]

You mean you dont know how, or why cant you remove the PIN-protection?

Hi, i'm having trouble removing my pin(tryed googleing it with no success).
I go to Start -> Settings -> Phone -> PIN and uncheck "Require PIN when phone is used" i enter my PIN and here's where the problem apeares, it does not except my PIN at this piont("Invalid old password.Please try again"?!).
What am I doing wrong?
thx

[dar_k]

i've the same problem of THIS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3195632&postcount=1792)

same problem, I decided as follows:
1. took out the battery for 5 minutes
2. PW on, SoftReset + Vol down
3. reload rom & radio
4. full Hard Reset with internal storage

[lilecho]

i've the same problem of THIS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3195632&postcount=1792)

Hey, I've seen your couple posts explaining the problem you are having and had a couple ideas that may or may not work but are worth a shot I'd say. Since the problem seems to be involving power (battery, ac, etc) I'd recommend changing up the ways your device is using/getting power to see if affects the error you receive. First, try going into 'Power Settings' (Start --> System --> Power) and unchecking "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Soft reset, connect through ActiveSync, run haret, attempt to boot Android. If that doesn't work, re-enable the option you just disabled, then remove the battery and run directly off USB power. Again attempt to boot Android in the usual fashion. Again I'm not promising anything, but I figured I'd throw a couple ideas your way in the hopes that maybe they'll help you. Cheers and good luck :)

[yuco91]

same problem, I decided as follows:
1. took out the battery for 5 minutes
2. PW on, SoftReset + Vol down
3. reload rom & radio
4. full Hard Reset with internal storage

Hey, I've seen your couple posts explaining the problem you are having and had a couple ideas that may or may not work but are worth a shot I'd say. Since the problem seems to be involving power (battery, ac, etc) I'd recommend changing up the ways your device is using/getting power to see if affects the error you receive. First, try going into 'Power Settings' (Start --> System --> Power) and unchecking "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Soft reset, connect through ActiveSync, run haret, attempt to boot Android. If that doesn't work, re-enable the option you just disabled, then remove the battery and run directly off USB power. Again attempt to boot Android in the usual fashion. Again I'm not promising anything, but I figured I'd throw a couple ideas your way in the hopes that maybe they'll help you. Cheers and good luck :)

THX for this INFO. I try it and then I can explain you the results. THX :):):)

[Nooblet]

Connect your phone via usb to your pc and use ActiveSync mode (not disk drive). Then use haret to start linux. It should continue then. It's in the FAQ (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinuxFAQ).


Im not able to do that since I have a Mac and not windows, it booted once but just once and then not after that.

[oaa8]

Im not able to do that since I have a Mac and not windows, it booted once but just once and then not after that.

you may just try switching the phone to activesync mode and connect it anyway. Mine got stuck once and I just tried connecting it to a mac since I was not at home and it worked. It may have just needed to reboot though.

[SniperZoz]

Hmn ... i've posted this problem elsewhere but now I think it's andriod related!?

Earlier today I ran andriod for the first time since I installed the AZTOR rom. It got stuck somewhere in the linux initialisation (cli) so after some 5 mins i gave up and hit the soft-reset. From that moment onwards pretty much 9/10 of anything i run (on winmo) gives me the "certificate error please reinstall" message, and any cab i run fails to install.

Is there a known way how to fix this w/o hard-reset? Or is hard-reset the only way?

Help me please!

[demacus]

Sers, SniperZoz

I had the problem too, I think it's a problem with AZTOR rom because I was getting the same error several times with different applications i tried to run.
So I don't think this problem is android related...

I'm now at aFast Rom which is also nearly stock and runs great at my device, baterry life is very good with this. ( nearly 4 days at normal use )

And yes, I think hard reset will be the only way o fix.

regards

demacus

[TrizO]

i was just wondering, is it possible to switch back to Win Mo if i needed to sell/exchange my phone after installing android?

[demacus]

Why don't you look into the WIKI (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux) if you don't wanna read the whole thread?

So please guys, come on, read the WIKI (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux)!

If you don't wanna read here or in the WIKI (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux), i can recommend you NOT TO TRY ANDROID ! IT WILL BRICK YOUR DIAMOND!

So please stop wasting this thread.

[Untouchab1e]

i was just wondering, is it possible to switch back to Win Mo if i needed to sell/exchange my phone after installing android?

You are not installing anything yet, so Windows Mobile wont be touched. When launching Haret you only boot into a linux environment (and from there into Android) after shutting down Windows Mobile. When you reboot your phone, you are back into Windows Mobile.

When we get Android fully working, we might think about making an Android ROM or something, but for now, Windows Mobile wont go anywhere ;)

[TrizO]

You are not installing anything yet, so Windows Mobile wont be touched. When launching Haret you only boot into a linux environment (and from there into Android) after shutting down Windows Mobile. When you reboot your phone, you are back into Windows Mobile.

When we get Android fully working, we might think about making an Android ROM or something, but for now, Windows Mobile wont go anywhere ;)

Thanks for the quick reply! that clears it up, im going to install in now.

[Untouchab1e]

Thanks for the quick reply! that clears it up, im going to install in now.

EDIT: The colors are messed up and the whole thing became unresponsive...did i do something wrong?

i installed it following whatever was on your site...i have a cdma sprint diamond

Its unfortunately a very well known problem (read the Wiki for more info). :/

[dar_k]

I ran again Android, and now my Diamond is dead.
My bootloader is loading with great triable :(

When I'm update my ROM to stock ROM, update stops at 13% !!! :)

!!! I ADVISE NOT TO TRY ANDROID !!!!

[balsat]

I ran again Android, and now my Diamond is dead.
I can't load bootloader :(

!!! I ADVISE NOT TO TRY ANDROID !!!!


Have you tried i hard reset?

[petay]

Ho did you manage to brick your diamond???? i have tried android hundreds of times and never had a problem.

also you dont need windows to place the device in active sync mode. mine asks me when i insert the cable what mode i would like. sometimes it decides not to so i have to go to start -> settings -> connections -> usb to pc and choose it in there (there is also a tick box to say 'ask me') when i connect the usb in active sync mode it comes up as another network device in ubuntu. i use linux 99% of the time although i dont really know enough to contrbute more :(

[dar_k]

I can't make HR, my device says "not load USB Host"

if I manage to make photo, i attached....

[dar_k]

photo my device on press vol dwn + enter + SR

[skero666]

Ho did you manage to brick your diamond???? i have tried android hundreds of times and never had a problem.

also you dont need windows to place the device in active sync mode. mine asks me when i insert the cable what mode i would like. sometimes it decides not to so i have to go to start -> settings -> connections -> usb to pc and choose it in there (there is also a tick box to say 'ask me') when i connect the usb in active sync mode it comes up as another network device in ubuntu. i use linux 99% of the time although i dont really know enough to contrbute more :(

Same here, booted into android lots of times, tried different builds and no problem, never i had to hard reset or other problems... it's funny that i had to hard reset from some stupid applications i tried to install on my diamond but from android never...

[skero666]

photo my device on press vol dwn + back arrow + SR

excuse me if i am wrong but i think hard reset it's done by pressing Volume Down+enter(the round key in the middle)+soft reset, and you keep pressing vol down + enter, that's how i do it...:)

[petay]

http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_diamond_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html

maybe the other combination is putting it into a bootloader mode?

[dar_k]

excuse me if i am wrong but i think hard reset it's done by pressing Volume Down+enter(the round key in the middle)+soft reset, and you keep pressing vol down + enter, that's how i do it...:)

sorry, i made mistake in my post :)
i have done the same you have posted.

[c4software]

its really strange. many people here have try Android and nobody have crash there device. You have modify something in "default.txt".

And what is your device ? DIAM100, DIAM400, ... ? can you explain how you get your device like that ?

[dar_k]

You have modify something in "default.txt".

no


And what is your device ? DIAM100, DIAM400, ... ? can you explain how you get your device like that ?
DIAM100

run Android many time, no PC connection!

[c4software]

its really strange. you have installed some applications in Android ? maybe its due to an installed application ?

[dar_k]

i haven't been installing application on Android

[Untouchab1e]

i haven't been installing application on Android

This is really weird. Its almost so weird that I suspect there is something else thats causing your problems.

The only thing you do is that you copy files your internal storage (so nothing is installed, no system files touched), and then you boot up haret which shuts down Windows Mobile. I dont know enough about how Haret works on low-level, so if it really was haret that killed your WinMo, it has to be related to the custom ROM you were running.

I know its not something you want to hear, but running custom ROM's is always a risk.

[petay]

correct me if im wrong but i dont think android has killed WinMo since the early days of trying to mount the internal storage and geting the OS storage instead.

on a side note, i dont know how old/new the news is but htc now have 2 android phones http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html

maybe there is something new in there we can make use of??? drivers etc??

[Riel]

I still have the 'unknown partition table' error on mmc0!


Anyway, it still continues, android boots (YEH!)

I get to main screen, but it's only alive for 10 seconds, then screen fades away and i have to reset.

Tried twice, can't keep it alive. Any ideas? It's such a bad looking 'fade' :)

[Untouchab1e]

I still have the 'unknown partition table' error on mmc0!


Anyway, it still continues, android boots (YEH!)

I get to main screen, but it's only alive for 10 seconds, then screen fades away and i have to reset.

Tried twice, can't keep it alive. Any ideas? It's such a bad looking 'fade' :)

You mean the screen times out? You can turn off the screen timeout in settings --> Display.. The screen may also fade if you hit then end-button (or in many cases, the right-button). You can solve this by using the Spare Parts app to map the end-key to "Home".

[dar_k]

I know its not something you want to hear, but running custom ROM's is always a risk.

I knew my odds from the beginning, but I really wont to solve this problem!!! :confused:

[sakkeus11]

photo my device on press vol dwn + enter + SR

I know this will help you.

Press vol. down and power button and reset button.
Then you have tree color screen with "serial" text.

Now you can flash new rom with ruu.

[doloop]

photo my device on press vol dwn + enter + SR

Are these garbage lines normal on your photos ? Seems like you've got an hardware problem, probably not related to android.

[c4software]

HTC G2 and G1 its like Diamond an Rapahel same device one with keyboard and other without. i'm looking the G1 specs its really really near the Diamond same processor same camera.

Anyone have look the exact specs of the G1 ?

[Dr4g0n]

i got this error message..

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4764/aufzeichnenjl4.jpg

whats wrong with my raphael?
i testet it with images on SDCard and phonememory with the newest programm files

[dar_k]

Are these garbage lines normal on your photos ? Seems like you've got an hardware problem, probably not related to android.

this garbage line appeared after i ran android

[mcage]

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-magic-android-phone-hands-on-20090217/

soft keyboard..
could this help diamond version forward?

[sibbor]

HTC G2 and G1 its like Diamond an Rapahel same device one with keyboard and other without. i'm looking the G1 specs its really really near the Diamond same processor same camera.

Anyone have look the exact specs of the G1 ?Wow, looks nice!! On the specifications page it's the same CPU, the camera and also the same amount of RAM as in our the Diamonds. We can only hope someone is able to dump the ROM once the phone is available somewhere. Also keep our fingers crossed that more of the hardware (like graphics, radio, USB, WiFi, BT, GPS) is identical with the Diamonds and or Raphaels =)...

Still a long way to go either way; navipad, hardware buttons etc. is different, but major progress have been made at that area so here's hoping!! Even though it's been quiet slow lately...

[petay]

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-magic-android-phone-hands-on-20090217/

soft keyboard..
could this help diamond version forward?

didnt this keyboard come in with the cupcake branch?? the android i have running on my diamond has the same looking keyboard

[pomophobe]

Hey there, I was wondering... And, sine the thread title states "Not Working Yet"... Has anyone got this working? And for the current builds what are the known issues?

I realize the information is in the thread, but scouring through 230 plus pages... well that's a bit difficult.

[rmahmoodi]

Well, I just got my laptop in so I had to get a new version of Linux, anyway, I downloaded the latest build from Connect-UTB and it was a corrupt zip file...downloaded it from another link and it seemed to work out great. Loaded it up on my phone and ran Haret without a single issue. Only took about a total of 30 seconds before I was at the "Clock".

I tested outgoing calls and it worked! So the radio does work, the only problem is there's no audio. I'm looking into contributing, but I don't know much about the MSM7201a, is the audio built onto that chip or is it on a seperate chip? I've searched but couldn't really find an answer.

I'm going to build a new version with Cupcake and see how far I can get with that.

One last thing, I want to try to wipe WinMo completely from this system, how can I upload a custom bootloader to this phone?

[straylight]

Hey there, I was wondering... And, sine the thread title states "Not Working Yet"... Has anyone got this working? And for the current builds what are the known issues?

I realize the information is in the thread, but scouring through 230 plus pages... well that's a bit difficult.

Really? Seriously? Reading the first 5 pages or the last 20 posts would give you the info you are asking for.

[Serren]

Yeah, the zips are corrupt on UTB's site. Anyone have working mirrors?

[Untouchab1e]

Really? Seriously? Reading the first 5 pages or the last 20 posts would give you the info you are asking for.

Or just read the Wiki for updated progress.

Yeah, the zips are corrupt on UTB's site. Anyone have working mirrors?

The .zip's are just fine for 99% of the ones who download them, but for some reason, certain people have problems with them. Havent found out why yet.

[c4software]

i look an video of the new Android device (G2), the resolution seems smaller and more usable, always any way to reduce the screen resolution on our device (Raphael or Diamond) ?

[touch of jobo]

i got this error message.. [IMG/] whats wrong with my raphael? i testet it with images on SDCard and phonememory with the newest programm files
It should be the micro sd card, not the 'internal' memory. Either you have to change the msmsdcc_id in the cmdline in your default.txt (to 3 for example, see wiki) or your sd card is partitioned weirdly.

didnt this keyboard come in with the cupcake branch?? the android i have running on my diamond has the same looking keyboard
It first apeared in the cupcake branch. That branch has been merged into the master branch a while ago. The soft keyboard is now in master, cupcake, donut. (This is an Android thing though, not a Raphael / Diamond thing or even a linux thing.)

Hey there, I was wondering... And, sine the thread title states "Not Working Yet"... Has anyone got this working? And for the current builds what are the known issues?
I realize the information is in the thread, but scouring through 230 plus pages... well that's a bit difficult.
'This' is, as the thread title says, not yet working. Not functional.
There are only 2 things you can do: development on the kernel to support more of the hardware (aka 'make this work'), or 'play around a bit'. If it boots first time, its nice to play around. Otherwise its probably not worth spending time getting the current state on your phone (not even your own time..) unless you're interested in linux kernel development.

always any way to reduce the screen resolution on our device (Raphael or Diamond) ?
No. The kernel presents the phones frame buffer to Android to draw in. Its up to android (or any user gui) to just 'draw bigger'.

-Jobo

[c4software]

Okay thanks jobo for the precision. any new things for the diamond and raphael ?

[whylessfone]

Okay thanks jobo for the precision. any new things for the diamond and raphael ?

My guess is that they are still working on it.

[Untouchab1e]

I can update you a bit.

We have moved on to 2.6.27 but are having problems getting everything working, especially the touch screen. Its apparantly only working when Android gets a call (for some reason).

Being on 2.6.27 gives us several benefits though, such as the ability to access a second memory bank, although I dont know the specifics regarding that.

So, progress has been made but the Touch-screen issue is really bugging, so hopefully, once we get that out of the way, we can race on!

[c4software]

Nice, thanks for the update Untouchab1e. :D

[icewhitenewyear]

Alright, so here's my problem...

I boot haret...
And get this message.

init: cannot find '/system/bin/playmp3' disabling bootsound'
android power: wakeup....

Then it just keeps going again and again...
Any ideas?

[tienhn]

Hi All,
If this is a dumb question, please forgive me. But is there any hope or plan to have the Android really works with HTC Diamond or Raphael? I mean works as in able to make call, SMS, browsing Internet etc,.?

Cheers,

[Untouchab1e]

Alright, so here's my problem...

I boot haret...
And get this message.



Then it just keeps going again and again...
Any ideas?

Which build are you running and what device are you trying to run it on? Your sig says you have a HTC Kaiser, which would explain your troubles ;)

Hi All,
If this is a dumb question, please forgive me. But is there any hope or plan to have the Android really works with HTC Diamond or Raphael? I mean works as in able to make call, SMS, browsing Internet etc,.?

Cheers,

Slightly difficult question, as it's impossible to say as we cant predict how the development will go. However, there isnt really any real reason it wont. It's basically just a matter of time.

So, no guarantees, but its absolutely possible, and I would even say its likely ;)

[icewhitenewyear]

Oh sorry about that i forgot i havent changed my sig in awhile, i currently have a touch pro. (fuze)

and im running the latest download from connect-utb.com

[icewhitenewyear]

Double post, sorry.

[Untouchab1e]

Oh sorry about that i forgot i havent changed my sig in awhile, i currently have a touch pro. (fuze)

and im running the latest download from connect-utb.com

Ah, ok.. You say it keeps on going and going? Could you elaborate? Also, try changing your msmsdcc_id to 3. (You can do this manually by editing the default.txt or use the Android Config tool available at connect-utb.com --> Downloads --> Connect-utb). Remember to soft reset after disconnecting the USB-cable.

[icewhitenewyear]

Ok i just changed the msmsdcc_id to 3 and now i get the following errors,

cannot find the following..
/system/bin/servicemanager
/system/bin/mountd
/system/bin/debugged
/system/bin/rild
/system/bin/app_process
/system/bin/mediaserver
/system/bin/playmp3
/system/bin/dbus-daemon
/system/bin/instalid
/system/bin/flash_image

Its saying all of these are disabling

[Untouchab1e]

Ok i just changed the msmsdcc_id to 3 and now i get the following errors,

You can try the ActiveSync trick (as I like to call it). Connect your device to your computer and put it in ActiveSync-mode, then try to boot Android (both with msmsdcc_id = 2 and 3.

Good luck!

[Krad213]

Hi guys, all respect for developers of this port, but what whole other community can do ? I think we can sing a petition to HTC and Google, that we demand android roms for devices that already on market, maybe it would be not full-suppoted rom, but rom with working loader and hardware drivers. We have XDA and much of android-fan sites in our own countries and even PDA oriented sites would help, so we can build pretty big community to sing our petition.

And its obvious that Google must be involved, they spent million of bucks on android-software contest, so why don't spend another couple of thousands to boost thier own platform to devices that already in users' hands ?

Lets try, what would we lose anyway ? :)

PS (sorry if my english isn't perfect :) )

[mugglesquop]

has anyone seen the new 'Cupcake' version of Android (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7894516.stm) that is to be on the new 'HTC Magic'?

looks like it may solve some of the problems :)

i'm sure someone can get hold of a dump of the ROM...


-edit- damit, just noticed someone else has mentioned this :(

[Untouchab1e]

Cupcake has already been merged with the master branch. The newest builds for Android that are available through Connect-utb for example already includes Cupcake. (Try writing a new text message and you will see the new fancy on-screen keyboard)

If you were rather thinking of the HTC Magicians hardware, we will have to wait and see but the touch screen is different at least (capacative synaptics screen I believe) and I am pretty sure it wont help much. That said, I could be wrong ;)

Regarding what others can do, a massive demand for HTC to make Android ROM's is good of course, but sadly, I dont think it will work. They seem to be quite steady on running two separate product lines. The high-end Windows Mobile powered devices, and the lower-end (read: ugly) Android powered devices. :(

[Krad213]

But it could work, if someone with native english write this petition adressed to HTC and Google. Its much easier then hacking port :), and every person asking stupid questions in this thread could be send to sing it :)

Again what do we lose ?

[Untouchab1e]

But it could work, if someone with native english write this petition adressed to HTC and Google. Its much easier then hacking port :), and every person asking stupid questions in this thread could be send to sing it :)

Again what do we lose ?

Off course, we have nothing to loose. That said, I actually personally asked the HTC Product Manager Scandinavia about this, and he was very clear

Hei!

Med utgivelsen av HTC G1 som første telefon med Android lurer jeg svært på hvorvidt vi kan forvente oss noen mulighet til å installere Android på HTC-telefoner som kjører Windows Mobile fra før. Eksempelvis hadde det vært fantastisk å kunne installere Android på min HTC Touch Pro. Kan du si noe om planene rundt dette?

Er forøvrig også interessert i hvorvidt det er sannsynlig at Windows Mobile 6.5, eventuelt 7 også vil bli tilbudt som oppdateringer for eksisterende HTC-Telefoner.

ELlers må jeg takke for mange flotte telefoner! HTC fyller et segment for meg som ingen andre klarer.

Mvh
Svar:
Android och WM är 2 olika platformar/segment och det blir komplicerat om dessa 2 skall blandas med uppgraderinga osv. Idags läget finns det inga planer på att erbjuda en uppgadering till Android på befintliga HTC WM produkter. När det galler WM6.5/7.0 så är för tidigt att ge ett besked men vi undersöker vilka möjligher som kan komma att erbjudas framöver. Tack och kul att ni uppskattar våra produkter.

For those of you who dont understand neither Norwegian nor Swedish (shame on you), I am basically asking about Android ROM's for existing HTC devices. He replies, saying: "Android and Windows Mobile are two different platforms/segments and it becomes complicated if those two get mixed in regards to upgrades, ec. Today, there are no plans to offer Android upgrades to existing HTC Windows Mobile products....

[doloop]

But it could work, if someone with native english write this petition adressed to HTC and Google.
Again what do we lose ?

Not a chance. HTC and Microsoft have a deal for htc to use WM. Microsoft won't be happy if HTC allow installation of android in place of WM. This could open the door to direct comparison of both OS on the same hardware, and microsoft will never allow that.

[mugglesquop]

Cupcake has already been merged with the master branch. The newest builds for Android that are available through Connect-utb for example already includes Cupcake. (Try writing a new text message and you will see the new fancy on-screen keyboard)

If you were rather thinking of the HTC Magicians hardware, we will have to wait and see but the touch screen is different at least (capacative synaptics screen I believe) and I am pretty sure it wont help much. That said, I could be wrong ;)

cheers :)

we'll have to wait to see the spec of the magic then...

[petay]

i myself asked htc technical support the android question!! i saw a new winMo rom for my diamond but lo and behold it wouldnt let me download it

Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns. You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with To clarify your issue, you stated that: "hi I have a touch diamond and am trying to install the latest rom to ensure it is working at its best. the site tells me the rom is not suitable, however it is the rom for my device. also there are a large number of android devices now coming out with the same specification as the diamond. when will the android roms be available for my diamond? thanks Pete" Dear Pete, the ROMS on our website are only for HTC branded devices. Please, contact Orange if you need any software for your device. We are not releasing Android OS for the Diamond.

[illi]

i myself asked htc technical support the android question!! i saw a new winMo rom for my diamond but lo and behold it wouldnt let me download it

BULL@#%$ HTC!!! I owned two HTC branded devices (HTC TouchPro and Touch Diamond) but the ROM download link wont allow me to download too:(

[petay]

mine is a p3700 with a htc badge on the front and an orange badge on the back!!! maybe its for identity issues or something!! i knew there answer would be no on the android roms coming from them. even though it looks better and runs better and its not winblows!!! he he

[Krad213]

Ok so we know that HTC have some agreements with M$ and won't just break them for no reason. But what about google, they for sure have powers and wish to take big part of mobile market, anyone asked them about forcing HTC to break with M$ or make somekind of "pirated roms" to boot android unofficialy ?

[c4software]

one months ago i asked the tech support too :

Dear Sir/Madame, We have no information about any such plans and I doubt it is going to happen. If any more models are released with the Android system it seems more probable that we will see it on new models built specifically for that system. We hope this will answer you question but feel free to contact us using the reference number above. Best Regards, Alex Nyberg HTC Europe www.europe.htc.com

if everyone with a Diamond or rapahel ask htc to make an Android rom maybe... (or not :()

[schnitzelbrain]

Is there anything planned to remove the need for SIM PIN entry in the future or implement it so I can enter the pin and android accepts it ?
I am one of the poor that have a vodafon sim card where (even its a red new umts version with full contract) disabeling sim pin is not possible.:(

[mugglesquop]

Is there anything planned to remove the need for SIM PIN entry in the future or implement it so I can enter the pin and android accepts it ?
I am one of the poor that have a vodafon sim card where (even its a red new umts version with full contract) disabeling sim pin is not possible.:(

it will be possible... sometime ;)

[Untouchab1e]

Ok so we know that HTC have some agreements with M$ and won't just break them for no reason. But what about google, they for sure have powers and wish to take big part of mobile market, anyone asked them about forcing HTC to break with M$ or make somekind of "pirated roms" to boot android unofficialy ?

So you are suggesting that Google, force HTC to stop their relations with Microsoft, meaning they wont be able to have any Windows Mobile devices? Would suck pretty hard for them considering they just announced two awesome new phones running WinMo. WinMo, love it or hate it, but I personally believe that Windows Mobile 7 will be awesome, and if anything, HTC should be the ones producing the phones running it

[Krad213]

I think, wm 7 will be nothing new, just like 6.5 or desktop vista, windows 7 .... just new interface ... maybe windows 7 is little faster when XP, but much uglier ... and vista is complete garbage ...

In wm 7 demos, i didn't see anything what not already implemented in SPB mobile shell or manila or pointUI.

But android - whole new world, there a cuple of revutionary things that can make software just awesome, like full data managment standardization, and integration anything with anything, no mater - proprietary or open, cuz interface is allways open and standard. And activity/intend/daemon standart differenciation helps manage memory usage/software development more effective.

We will never see such things in windows, ever.

So i think android is future, and not just for mobile and embeded devices, but maybe sometime it will come to desktops (netbook version already in development) ... but I CANT WAIT NO MORE !!! :)

[leonatan25]

desktop vista, windows 7 .... just new interface ... maybe windows 7 is little faster when XP, but much uglier ... and vista is complete garbage ...
android [...] there a cuple of revutionary things that can make software just awesome
LOL @ both dumb statements.

[Untouchab1e]

In wm 7 demos, i didn't see anything what not already implemented in SPB mobile shell or manila or pointUI.


Please tell us where you have seen Windows Mobile 7 demo's as it isnt even officially annouced and no details have been officially released. So I find it really hard to believe that you have seen any of it.

From what little leaked info there is, combined with some statements made in interviews tells us that Windows Mobile 7 will be something completely "new" in several ways. So who knows what it will bring with it.

[Krad213]

There were several mmmmm feature lists of WM7 ... including animations, fade effects, using phone shaking for software interaction and using camera instead of accelerometer (to detect phone movments in space by calculating image changes) ... last one - most stupid idea, i've ever heard ... and not any word about any architecture changes.

[Untouchab1e]

There were several mmmmm feature lists of WM7 ... including animations, fade effects, using phone shaking for software interaction and using camera instead of accelerometer (to detect phone movments in space by calculating image changes) ... last one - most stupid idea, i've ever heard ... and not any word about any architecture changes.

That was a leaked, unconfirmed and most importantly extremly old document (Over a year old). The pictures posted are also clearly photoshopped, such as the one attached. (The fade effect is poorly made and why would there be a T9 indicator on the top menu bar?)

Anyhow, lets get back on topic...

[mugglesquop]

That was a leaked, unconfirmed and most importantly extremly old document (Over a year old). The pictures posted are also clearly photoshopped, such as the one attached. (The fade effect is poorly made and why would there be a T9 indicator on the top menu bar?)

Anyhow, lets get back on topic...

oooo like the battery and signal bars ^^ lol

[c4software]

about android, the lack of button will be maybe a problem, but if we use the sensitive surface we can make something cool, i'm explain :

Transform a sensitive area to the Trackball of the G1.
Map the up key to option key.
Map home button to home button (of course)

Its would be a good no ?

[Krad213]

That was a leaked, unconfirmed and most importantly extremly old document (Over a year old). The pictures posted are also clearly photoshopped, such as the one attached. (The fade effect is poorly made and why would there be a T9 indicator on the top menu bar?)

Anyhow, lets get back on topic...

Ok maybe its old, but how much time M$ need from idea to working OS ?
OK its photoshoped ... OF COURSE its photoshoped - its concept, not working model.

T9 ... I dont know, maybe its not that T9, maybe its model name or like a version name of this demonstration or something else ...

Why do you thing that someone could do a stupid mistake making fake, and couldn't do it making real concept ... is there any difference in process ?

[Addicteddddd]

Ok maybe its old, but how much time M$ need from idea to working OS ?
OK its photoshoped ... OF COURSE its photoshoped - its concept, not working model.

T9 ... I dont know, maybe its not that T9, maybe its model name or like a version name of this demonstration or something else ...

Why do you thing that someone could do a stupid mistake making fake, and couldn't do it making real concept ... is there any difference in process ?

Please...Stop...Posting...
Especially posting crap which has nothing to do with the thread!

[Riel]

oooo like the battery and signal bars ^^ lol



Nooo I really think the best 'FAIL' is the facts that the fade must look like 'motion'. Quite fast motion -> all within the same second, as you can see :p

[straylight]

Please...Stop...Posting...
Especially posting crap which has nothing to do with the thread!

Agreed.

As far as the Zips from Untouchable are concerned, it seems to depend on what program you use to unzip them. I use Winrar myself, but the version of Winzip from work unzipped them as corrupt.

[oaa8]

Agreed.

As far as the Zips from Untouchable are concerned, it seems to depend on what program you use to unzip them. I use Winrar myself, but the version of Winzip from work unzipped them as corrupt.

I've noticed that when I have the corrupt problem, it's because the whole zip file was not downloaded. Using firefox to download, it does not know how big the file is so it doesn't give an ETA. The corrupt files for me were not the correct size. I normally use Winrar but windows vista's explorer also opened it with no problems.

[pomophobe]

Really? Seriously? Reading the first 5 pages or the last 20 posts would give you the info you are asking for.

No need to be rude, I just joined a little while ago, and I just saw this thread. I am not a developer. I am user, I was looking for a place to find some good recommendations on apps, and possibly porting a better OS or UI to WinMo 6.1. I've browsed through many of the pages in this thread. All I asked for was to be pointed in the right direction. A simple link or two posted, and then you can roll your eyes and utter "idiot" at me all you want.

[touch of jobo]

No need to be rude, I just joined a little while ago, and I just saw this thread. I am not a developer. I am user, I was looking for a place to find some good recommendations on apps, and possibly porting a better OS or UI to WinMo 6.1. I've browsed through many of the pages in this thread. All I asked for was to be pointed in the right direction. A simple link or two posted, and then you can roll your eyes and utter "idiot" at me all you want.

Excuse me for joining the off-topic-ness here...

The thread title says "Not yet working", in full caps.
If youre not a developer, or more to the point: if youre not here to contribute to getting completely working kernel, you should probably wait for 'it' to be 'working'. Of course its cool to finger around in Android, but since its not a working, functional solution yet, there is no point in putting resources towards getting to the point were some others already are. (Of course, reading the entire thread is a lot of effort, but at least it is your own. Bloating the thread contributes to it being a lot of effort to read it, and makes it more likely others will not read it either, and contribute to the chain reaction...)

Any post that says 'it doesnt work for me' in a thread that says 'not working' is pollution. Any post that says 'I have the same problem as some previous post' is pollution. Any thread that says 'android works on XYZ device' is by itself useless and therefor pollution. Any post that reports stuff thats already posted before in the thread or on the wiki (no audio ,messed up colors on raph800, sim pin, display timeout, ...) is pollution. (But then again, posts that say 'read the wiki, youre an idiot' are also pollution. :rolleyes:) Any post that says 'when will it be ready, I hate windows' is pollution.

dcordes started this thread some 2345 posts ago in order to get a fully working linux kernel that exposes the entire device (and that Android can run on top of), not to get a non-working state on as many phones as possible.

Is has been suggested before to start a separate thread for 'support' and leave this one for 'development' but that would probably not help.

I realize that this post will disappear below the horizon within a day, but at least I will have had my rant. :mad: Again, sorry for occupying this spot that could have been a useful post.

Should you feel the urge to respond to this post, do so in PM as it is OT, unless youre dcordes and own the thread.

-Jobo

[oliwan]

Hi All,

I've fixed the touch screen issue with android and the 2.6.27 kernel. It turns out the android power drivers have moved which are required for the TS to work properly which weren't being compiled in.

Anyway, edit the htcraphael_defconfig to fix it. It's the USER_WAKELOCK and WAKELOCK you need.


#
# Power management options
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND_FREEZER=y
CONFIG_USER_WAKELOCK=y
CONFIG_WAKELOCK=y
# CONFIG_APM_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_SUSPEND_POSSIBLE=y
CONFIG_NET=y

[Untouchab1e]

Hi All,

I've fixed the touch screen issue with android and the 2.6.27 kernel. It turns out the android power drivers have moved which are required for the TS to work properly which weren't being compiled in.

Anyway, edit the htcraphael_defconfig to fix it. It's the USER_WAKELOCK and WAKELOCK you need.


#
# Power management options
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND_FREEZER=y
CONFIG_USER_WAKELOCK=y
CONFIG_WAKELOCK=y
# CONFIG_APM_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_SUSPEND_POSSIBLE=y
CONFIG_NET=y


Awesome work! Can anyone confirm?

[touch of jobo]

Awesome work! Can anyone confirm?
Confirmed for Raph100.
-Jobo

[NetRipper]

Confirmed for Raph100.
-Jobo
And I just committed it to git (htc-msm-2.6.27 (http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27)). Thanks oliwan.

Now I think we finally have 2.6.27 in a state like we had 2.6.25. The new kernel already includes a lot of changes "below the surface", but it's the kernel to continue working on. :)

[mak213]

i hear people are using the "phone" function as in calling people while on the android loaded up i have the diam100 and everytime i try to call someone it just hangs up , also is there a way u could copy sim contacts to phone?

[atreidae]

I think I'd like to just drop a note here, you guys are doing an awesome job, we all know HTC wont develop android for the Raph.

I've run the test build and what you have working is very impressive.

[doloop]

Are these garbage lines normal on your photos ? Seems like you've got an hardware problem, probably not related to android.

Fortunately, this is not the case, i have the same lines on my hardspl when i enter the "usb host" thing.

[ruskairabbit]

Woudn't it be a good idea to change the thread title to say "[PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING" - Read the Wiki before posting!"

It might cut down some of the questions like I cant enter my PIN, and my colours are messed up etc...

[Kevbodian]

Woudn't it be a good idea to change the thread title to say "[PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING" - Read the Wiki before posting!"

It might cut down some of the questions like I cant enter my PIN, and my colours are messed up etc...

From experience I can tell you that it would not cut down any noticeable amount. As great as they are, people, newbs, rarely read the stickies or the wiki.

[badbrad4080]

From experience I can tell you that it would not cut down any noticeable amount. As great as they are, people, newbs, rarely read the stickies or the wiki.
Hey look people android is NOT WORKING as yet STOP the questions about how your not getting functionality and some are when it is confirmed to work/beta complain but now it in DEVELOPEMENT so NO MORE questions on why am not able to make a call, your display colors are off ect., its not a beta there not looking for a list problems the release has it is ONLY for progress updates nothing else. Since I made this post, I would like to say thanks for taking the initiative to make this for everyone good job and excellent progress.

[Untouchab1e]

Hi!

I am testing out a new Android build right now. It reflects current progress and is now based on Linux 2.6.27 (instead of 2.6.25). There arent that many visible changes other than this, but there are some. Will post the new build once I verify that it actually works...

[sibbor]

Hi!

I am testing out a new Android build right now. It reflects current progress and is now based on Linux 2.6.27 (instead of 2.6.25). There arent that many visible changes other than this, but there are some. Will post the new build once I verify that it actually works...Interesting. Will this build work for DIAM as well as RAPH series?

[Untouchab1e]

Interesting. Will this build work for DIAM as well as RAPH series?

I just confirmed that it worked lovely on my Raph100. I will try to boot it on my DIAM100 later tonight, but if anyone wants to be my private tester before that, feel free to contact me.

[Untouchab1e]

The new build is now posted.

Its nearly 18 days since the last build, and here comes a new one! The big news is that its now running on Linux 2.6.27 and that incomming calls now work (without sound or mic though). Do feel free to give it a go, and feedback would be very valuable (either on XDA or htc-android.com). Except a Diamond release soon too.. Download now (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=24)

You can also check for the new version using the Android config tool.

Also worth noting is that the package is no longer a .zip-file, but rather a verified .rar file. This will hopefully fix problems a few people were having with the downloaded file.

Enjoy!

[c4software]

I tried the lastest kernel on my diam100 from Git (2.6.27), improvement are realy impressive, but acctually (yesterday night, date of my build) the navipad is not correctly map on the diam100 (its correct on the Raph, but not on the diam).

But maybe J0b0 or balsat have fix that issue ?

[Torchin]

Well i maybe would try a andriod build but is this list (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux) up to date ? :confused:

If not
Can somebody update that list or post a list here ?
You all have my thanks already for making it work :D

[o2xdaexec]

ive put it on the mem card and an it but it stalls on the loading screen with all the text and the last comand is disabling flash recovery its been like that for 5mins now,what have i done wrong...

[dexxa05]

Hi same things for me...

I tried MTYPE 1805 and 1910 (I have a diamond)

But they don't work i have a linux screen my phone are connected to ActiveSync...

c4software can you upload your build?

[petay]

I have also tried the latest RAPH build on my diamond. it used a default.txt from a working DIAM image and no joy. maybe its because its looking for a memory card rather than the internal sotrage???

[touch of jobo]

I tried the lastest kernel on my diam100 from Git (2.6.27), improvement are realy impressive, but acctually (yesterday night, date of my build) the navipad is not correctly map on the diam100 (its correct on the Raph, but not on the diam).
But maybe J0b0 or balsat have fix that issue ?
I do not have a Diamond, but I suspect it shouldn't be too hard for someone who does have one. I understand you can use the scroll wheel (right?) so that means that we do get input from the touch pad. We already saw that the gpio matrix for the hard buttons is the same, so the only difference would be in the data for position on the left and right side of the pad.

Well i maybe would try a andriod build but is this list (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux) up to date ? :confused:
The list is pretty much accurate. Navi now works on Raph, but not on Diam. RTC works, but thats not in the list...

-Jobo

[cielorosso]

I tried the newest RAPH build on my RAPH100.

On the good side: Internal clock now works :D

on the bad side: the navipad no longer works except for up/down/enter.

Hope this information is helpful

[o2xdaexec]

what process did you do to get it to work on your raph100

[Untouchab1e]

what process did you do to get it to work on your raph100

Download here (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=24)

1 - Download the .rar file and extract the contents to your desktop. You should have a folder called tmp there now.
2 - Connect your phone to the computer with a mini-USB cable.
3 - copy the tmp folder to your memory card root. The tmp should then be located in [memory card]/tmp Inside the tmp folder is a boot folder. You may put that anywhere or
leave it in tmp.
4 - Disconnect the usb-cable and soft-reset your Touch Pro.
5 - Open up the file explorer, find the tmp directory and launch haret.exe and click run.
6 - Wait for android to boot up, and enjoy! At the first boot it takes a while before the android boot screen comes up and then the boot screen (with the glowing android) stays up quite long before you get to the boot screen.
Subsequent boots are faster.

If you follow this step-by-step, it should work without any hickups on your raph100

[o2xdaexec]

ohh....didnt use usb just downloaded it to memory card via card reader.:o

[adil786uk]

Just tried android for the first time on my diamond. I quite like it. Excellent work so far guys!

[Gautje]

Hi guys,

After testing the last build, my compliments for the improvements!

- I was able to use the touch circle of my device, though it was little too sensitive, so the arrow keys were difficult to use. (And in snake, the snake moved down sometimes because of this touch)
- I was able to make a call, but I couldn't hear or say anything. Different from the build before, I was able to be called. It did take some time though before Android noticed it was being called.
- The phone does not crash anymore when using the back/red phone key.
- I was able to look into my pics, and browse through all music, though it took some time to load.
- The lights still do not work.
- The battery indicator doesn't work yet. :-(

Sorry for this short answer. I will update it on monday. I'm going out with some friends tonight, and tomorrow :)

[Untouchab1e]

For those who are just curious or cant experience it themselves, here is a neat video demo of the current progress --> Over to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH-VLYX0d68)

[o2xdaexec]

does it not work right if you just put it on the memory card and install from there.

[Untouchab1e]

does it not work right if you just put it on the memory card and install from there.

Short answer: yes.. I think you should watch this (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=23) video in order to understand where you should place what and how!

[mak213]

can we keep this about diamond only? the majority of ppl questioning etc are all talking about ralpheal can u guys use ur forum highly appreciated...and how am i not reading if i asked if phone worked on diam100 ino it says it doesnt on the wiki but i hear allloot of ppl are having it work on the diam100 i wanted to just have that confirmed

[dcordes]

This thread discusses Linux kernel for HTC Diamond and HTC Raphael

[touch of jobo]

the navipad is not correctly map on the diam100 (its correct on the Raph, but not on the diam).
But maybe J0b0 or balsat have fix that issue ?
c4software, you mentioned that the scroll wheel works. does the ring light up when you scroll it? (The other leds may just not light up because I don't get the correct position information, but as the wheel works, it should blink.)
- I was able to use the touch circle of my device, though it was little too sensitive, so the arrow keys were difficult to use. (And in snake, the snake moved down sometimes because of this touch)
Is that on a Raphael or a Diamond? If its a Diamond, same question about the ring flashing...?
-Jobo

[danielmtz]

Will there be another version out for the diamond as well? Thanks!

[o2xdaexec]

i followed the video, and still getting the same as the screen shots about flash disable etc and then it just hangs.could it be what rom i have on the phone thats causing the issue

[Dr.Tenma]

Hey, what do you think about this http://pokylinux.org/ ?

[Flohman]

It's not working for me on my Diamond. Within your HowTo on your side you describe that the first boot will take a while. I've waited for about 20 Minutes but the glowing Android never came and no further reactions in the command line.

Do you have any ideas?

[Gautje]

c4software, you mentioned that the scroll wheel works. does the ring light up when you scroll it? (The other leds may just not light up because I don't get the correct position information, but as the wheel works, it should blink.)

Is that on a Raphael or a Diamond? If its a Diamond, same question about the ring flashing...?
-Jobo

This was on the Diamond. I will test it on all other functionality now. The ring did not flash. It was in the same rhythm as in Windows. So, after receiving an sms, it was flasing around. And when it was "charging" in Windows, this is still the same.

[Gautje]

More including test report:

- Booting takes quite some time (About a minute if fast, about two if slow), and sometimes it doesn't boot at all, but hangs at some random place in the terminator after running Haret.
----- (If it boots at all. I tried to boot it severl times, got these results: (0=hang, 1=boot) 1-1-0-0-0-0-1-0-0. It seems to hang with the line "[ 0.010000] console handover: boot [htc_fb-1] -> real [tty0]".
---------- Update: It boots, but when it seems to hang, it just takes for about 5 minutes to load, and then it suddenly vibrates two times, and Android boots! :D
- I seem to be able to surf to Google.com one time. When clicking ANY link, or going to Google.nl, it says there is no connection found. Strange, but it does indicate GPRS starting to work. (?) (I must say it loads Google VERY slow, comparative to Opera in Windows Mobile)
- Clock works, finally. Seems to have taken the time from Windows Mobile :)
- It's still difficult to get the status bar at the top of the screen down, without a stylus.
- Camera doesn't work yet. It says "Place an SD card before using the camera." I can browse through all my files though, so this SD card has been placed, I guess.
- I had to soft reboot and reboot Android to get back to the home screen from the camera? The back buttons work everywhere, but not here.
- The touch scroll wheel works, though the lights of the complete pad do not.
- The buttons seem to work well. I can call using the green phone, end a call, using the red button. Shut down (Though this shutting down doesn't work well) by holding the red button. The "up" key seems to have changed to the Home key. Maybe make the up key the up key again, to get those little menus, so that the home key can get back to the home screen, like it should? In my eyes much better.
- In the main menu, the screen often does not respond to my finger. A program turns orange, but won't start up, before I press it several times, or use the stylus.
- The stylus is not yet being detected. The lights won't go on, like in Windows Mobile.
- The battery indicator still gives a question mark.
- The microphone and the speaker don't work yet.
- Sending and receiving messages works great.
- When activating Bluetooth, it says "Turning on", but it doesn't do much...
- Wifi doesn't work yet
- Sending and receiving MMS doesn't work yet...
- Connectbot doesn't even open, what is this supposed to do?
- SMS does not work fine. I get the messages back when I try to send them. Some error seems to have occured?
- Putting someone in wait when calling works :) The rest doesn't...


More to come, just a small update :)

[cielorosso]

what device did you test it on...? I tested it on my RAPH100, and I can't get the navipad to work in this new build (worked in the previous)!

[Gautje]

Could be well possible. I tested this build on my DIAM100. Please note that this is the last build, that has nog been published @ connect-utb.com yet. I don't know how far raph builds are similar to diam builds.

[reasons]

Testing on the latest build on my raph800. It gets stuck loading android, never making it to the android screen.

[adil786uk]

Starting andriod while plugged into USB seems to have broken andriod, going to try copy folder over again. When in the andriod GUI it just keeps saying "andriod.com. has encountered an error. Force Close".

NM: Fixed by re-copying folder.

[maejrep]

Well, it's been about 100 pages, but here's an update on what I've been working on, that is not yet in git (mostly for RAPH800, but some things affect other models too):

* Charger support - Switches between battery, AC (high-current), and USB (low-current), based on what is plugged in
* Preliminary battery support for raph800, and probably other msm7500 devices. Tried the capacity formula from htc-vogue branch, and it does not seem to work, so will need to find out what the correct formula should be
* SMD_DS support. This is the AT-cmd channel, which is not detected like all the other SMD channels on msm7500 (works fine on 7200/RAPH100, etc). I get regular signal quality status updates, and SMS notifications. Have not tried using EVDO/data yet.
* A lot of new clocks added to the API, with cr2's help. This affects hardware only (no, I'm talking about a new clock you can put on your snazzy android desktop...), but should be fundamental to getting new hardware like bluetooth working
* With a nudge in the right direction from orux, I've fixed up the board-htcraphael-panel file to add support for the Epson S1D13774 MDDI controller (the LCD panel). There's still something not quite right with it, as the screen appears shifted about 20 pixels to the left (left edge of screen shows up on the right side), but we are now able to go from a complete controller reset to almost what we have in CE/SPL (and Epson has docs!), so that's promising. RGB444/565 discrepancy is still there, which makes me think that either I haven't found the 565 mode yet, or there's something else wrong with msm_fb.

Will work on cleaning up the patches and get them into git in the next week.

[touch of jobo]

[...] Within your HowTo on your side you describe that the first boot will take a while. I've waited for about 20 Minutes but the glowing Android never came and [...]
The first boot takes longer because it has to build the dalvik-cache for the frameworks and app packages. Not more than between 1 and 2 minutes though. Going from the console to the 'glowing android screen' takes a bit longer (like 20 secs in stead of 6) and the glowing android screen stays up considerably longer than on subsequent boots. If you don't get to the glowing androids within 30 seconds or to the home screen within 3 minutes on 1st boot, its not going to happen. No idea what wrong with your particular config.

This was on the Diamond. I will test it on all other functionality now. The ring did not flash. It was in the same rhythm as in Windows. So, after receiving an sms, it was flasing around. And when it was "charging" in Windows, this is still the same.
Ok, so that means that the leds driver we have now works only for Raphs, not Diams (at all), and that the navi touch chip is on the same i2c ID but is data-compatible only for the ring, not for the left and right touch areas. (This is weird. It would make more sense that either everythig works or nothing, butnot just the wheel. Are you sure it always does left or right, never home / send / back / end, no matter where you push?)

[...] I tested it on my RAPH100, and I can't get the navipad to work in this new build (worked in the previous)!
The term 'build' is used very loosely. Unless you know from which commit the kernel was actually built (like when you built it yourself), there is no telling what you run. Latest git has a driver for the navi pad that is functional (tho not perfect) for raph100 and afaik also raph800.

Starting andriod while plugged into USB seems to have broken andriod
What most likely 'breaks' (corrupts) it, is that the file systems never get cleanly unmounted when you reset out of android. (Neither the vfat fs you mount in the 1st place nor the image file you loop-mount from that.) It is probably good practice to go through the power down sequence (hold end button more than 1 second), then count to 5 (or 10 if you count fast) before you stick the stylus in the reset hole.

[...]
* With a nudge in the right direction from orux, I've fixed up the board-htcraphael-panel file to add support for the Epson S1D13774 MDDI controller (the LCD panel). There's still something not quite right with it, as the screen appears shifted about 20 pixels to the left (left edge of screen shows up on the right side), but we are now able to go from a complete controller reset to almost what we have in CE/SPL (and Epson has docs!), so that's promising. RGB444/565 discrepancy is still there, which makes me think that either I haven't found the 565 mode yet, or there's something else wrong with msm_fb.
I don't believe there is something wrong in msm_fb. I still think that 'somehow' :rolleyes: the dma2 in mpd_dma_to-mddi() shifts bits incorrectly. (or is that 'not found the 565 mode yet' ?) BTW: Do you have any thoughts on the navi working a little bit but mostly not on the Diamonds (other than that it is weird ;) )? As for the 'ghost behavior' of the navi pad, I did some experiments like keep reading i2c data until it returns nothing (or gives an error) but that never happens so it hangs, also I tried reading 18 bytes in stead of 19 (which I think I should anyway) but that didn't fix it either. I guess there is some bit that indicates I should ignore the rest and consider it not touched.

-Jobo

[maejrep]

I don't believe there is something wrong in msm_fb. I still think that 'somehow' :rolleyes: the dma2 in mpd_dma_to-mddi() shifts bits incorrectly. (or is that 'not found the 565 mode yet' ?)
I don't know what mdp_dma_to_mddi() is .. Haven't looked that far into it (though I've been up to my elbows in disptools.dll asm the past couple days). The incorrect bit shifting shouldn't be a problem because it should be doing the same operations on raph800 that it's doing on raph100. I don't want to do the rgb444-to-565 conversion in the driver, as I've heard blackstone is currently doing. I'd rather just figure out how to get it into the correct 565 mode and have it display things correctly :)

Maybe if you get a chance to look at the documentation, you can point out something that would be useful? :) You probably have a much better grasp of low-level display devices than I do.
http://vdc.epson.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=279&Itemid=40 -> S1D13774B02B Spec Rev 1.5 is a zipped PDF.

BTW: Do you have any thoughts on the navi working a little bit but mostly not on the Diamonds (other than that it is weird ;) )?
Would need to have the device, or have someone do some mmutrace analysis from wince to have any idea. Might also be worth using i2cdump (without the navi driver compiled in, and with i2c-dev support, so you have /dev/i2c* nodes) to see if touching at the same spot generates the same numbers you are expecting. I have i2c-tools compiled for ARM if you need it.

There might also be something useful to be learned from the diamond version of htcnavi.dll, if it is indeed different. If it's different it should be as simple as detecting the PSOC version at run-time to change its behavior. I have local modifications to your navi driver for grabbing the version (doesn't do any checking, just stores it in a property)

As for the 'ghost behavior' of the navi pad, I did some experiments like keep reading i2c data until it returns nothing (or gives an error) but that never happens so it hangs, also I tried reading 18 bytes in stead of 19 (which I think I should anyway) but that didn't fix it either.
I believe it should be 18 bytes from data address 0x1 (instead of 19 bytes from data address 0 or 1). Looks like your code is using data address 1, but I2C_MSG_LEN is 19, and it should be 18, if you want to mimic wince behavior. The strange thing though, is that there should be no reason to continue reading beyond byte 0xd -- because everything after that will always be the same. E.g., 0xe - 0x10 (from your buffer) or reading 3 bytes from data address 0xf, is the PSOC version. For you that's { 1, 2, 0x36 }, but for me, it's { 0x82, 0, 0x20 }. There's no reason to grab that on every poll. This is a parallel data interface, which is different from the ksc interface, where the controller chip is actually forcing you to clean the buffer first before the IRQ can be reactivated.

As for detecting that you're not touching it anymore, I believe bytes 0-3 will be { 55, aa, 55, aa } when it's not being touched.

[c4software]

Hi,

Well sorry guys for the late response i don't have my computer right now.So like say J0b0 one the current 2.6.27 build only the right scroll works, and the led of navipad don't works when i touch the scroll or sensitive surface.

If anyone want to try the newest build on diam (We have to understand the button on the bottom of the diam don't works normally) i can upload it tonight.

J0b0 : To fix the problem the only way its to listen the i2c chip when we touch the surface ? if you explain to me the method i can try it tonight or tomorow.

[Vizzimo]

(...)If anyone want to try the newest build on diam (We have to understand the button on the bottom of the diam don't works normally) i can upload it tonight.(...)

Well, eh.. yeah! I'd really like to try the newest DIAM-version! (So, I'd be more than glad :p)

Cheers and keep up the good work!

[Adante]

Hi there, i have a question. Is it possible to link the right softkey on the Home tab to the menu that you get when you hold the Endkey?

If so please tell me how it can be done. First of all how what registery i need to edit to chance this linking, and second to what i actually got to link.

[c4software]

Well, eh.. yeah! I'd really like to try the newest DIAM-version! (So, I'd be more than glad :p)

Cheers and keep up the good work!

Okay i will upload it. i compil the lastest 2.6.27 kernel on git, navipad seems okay.

[rmahmoodi]

Can anyone actually post the sources used and maybe a list of what files were modified or added? I'm just interested in learning how this whole process works, and I understand you can't take the time to write up a huge tutorial, but I'd like to be able to compare files and directories to see where it is you genius' are making these changes.

Hope it's not asking for too much.

Thanks!

[c4software]

Its the lastest git build (2.6.27 Kernel).

Lastest Android for Diamond (Working on My Diam100) (http://c4software.another-team.com/tmp.zip)

Screen :
- Touchscreen Works.

Buttons :
- Navi Weel works
- Home button show the option Menu
- back go back.
- Hang up button Go To home, long press ask to shutdown Android)
- Get call button seem snon working.

Call :
- Make Call Works
- Get Call Seems non working (on my device)

[setix]

just download the newest build, will post back with how it runs on a diam500

[setix]

on my sprint diam500, the color is still messed up, and the touch screen is reversed( you have to click at the top of the screen to touch a button on the bottom, vice versa)

it is more stable and faster,
still no network connection to sprint.
color seems to be correct on pac man game

[Gautje]

Lately I posted that sending/receiving sms works fine, Then I posted it didn't. To make it a little more clear:

It is possible to send messages that contain <= 160 digits. When it passes this, only the first message gets sent, and you will get an error that the message could not be sent.

[setix]

i got the screen calibrated on my diam500
edit the default.txt's calibraition with the raph800's settings, and it will have a near perfect calibration on the diamond

here is the settings
msmts_calib=0x81.0x393.0x358.0x7D

[Untouchab1e]

Its the lastest git build (2.6.27 Kernel).

Lastest Android for Diamond (Working on My Diam100) (http://c4software.another-team.com/tmp.zip)

Screen :
- Touchscreen Works.

Buttons :
- Navi Weel works
- Home button show the option Menu
- back go back.
- Hang up button Go To home, long press ask to shutdown Android)
- Get call button seem snon working.

Call :
- Make Call Works
- Get Call Seems non working (on my device)

Great work! Will host it on Connect-utb.com within an hour or two!

EDIT: Its up!

[adil786uk]

Its the lastest git build (2.6.27 Kernel).

Lastest Android for Diamond (Working on My Diam100) (http://c4software.another-team.com/tmp.zip)

Screen :
- Touchscreen Works.

Buttons :
- Navi Weel works
- Home button show the option Menu
- back go back.
- Hang up button Go To home, long press ask to shutdown Android)
- Get call button seem snon working.

Call :
- Make Call Works
- Get Call Seems non working (on my device)

Thanks! Willl try it now.

[mak213]

neither calling function work on my diam100 :( just letting ya know

[Untouchab1e]

neither calling function work on my diam100 :( just letting ya know

You mean the audio doesnt work or that you dont recieve the notifications at all?

[adil786uk]

-Scroll Wheel Now Working
-I can access internal storage now, but file browser crashes when opening any file.
-The circle light constantly lights up.
-I can make calls, but can't hear anything.

[Gautje]

@Untouchable;

Don't know if you need it, but I could host all Diamond/raph builds on my site, as a mirror. If interested/needed, just send me an email and I'll provide you with an ftp account to upload them :-)

My site is located at www.gautam.nl. To test, a 10mb.bin (http://www.download.gautam.nl/speedtest/10mb.bin), and 50mb.bin (http://www.download.gautam.nl/speedtest/50mb.bin). Please don't download these for fun. Only for test purposes. :)

[Untouchab1e]

@Untouchable;

Don't know if you need it, but I could host all Diamond/raph builds on my site, as a mirror. If interested/needed, just send me an email and I'll provide you with an ftp account to upload them :-)

My site is located at www.gautam.nl. To test, a 10mb.bin (http://www.download.gautam.nl/speedtest/10mb.bin), and 50mb.bin (http://www.download.gautam.nl/speedtest/50mb.bin). Please don't download these for fun. Only for test purposes. :)

Thanks for the offer, but I think Il be fine for the moment. Easier to handle one source rather than two. But again, thank you..

[touch of jobo]

Is it possible to link the right softkey on the Home tab to the menu that you get when you hold the Endkey? If so please tell me how it can be done. First of all how what registery i need to edit to chance this linking, and second to what i actually got to link.
There are no soft keys and there is no registry.

As for detecting that you're not touching it anymore, I believe bytes 0-3 will be { 55, aa, 55, aa } when it's not being touched.
55 aa 55 aa sounds a lot like clock run-in, but I shall investigate and report back. I do read 18 bytes, not 19, but that is not in git yet. I want to have it working first. (And yes, reading 14 bytes is probably enough..)
I downloaded the epson pdf but haven't had a chance to read it yet.

[...] J0b0 : To fix the problem the only way its to listen the i2c chip when we touch the surface ? if you explain to me the method i can try it tonight or tomorow.
You need to interrogate the i2c chip to tell whether and if so where you touch the Navi. (I do that when the IRQ for gpio 94 fires..) But even if you don't touch it, I still get the IRQ, and the data from the i2c chip indicates that you do touch the Navi, even if you don't. Especially the right side of the pad. I shall look into it a bit more to see whether I can tell from the data that you didnt actually touch it. (Like maejrep suggested.) I don't have a lot of time right now as I'm away on a project at a customer's site, probably until the end of the month. (My signal strength indicator has an R for 'roaming' in it :))

Can anyone actually post the sources used and maybe a list of what files were modified or added? Thanks!
Yes. This is the list of changes. (http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27) Also, see the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux) for how to build a kernel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux#Buildx20.Yourx20.O wn) from it.

Buttons :
- Home button show the option Menu
- back go back.
- Hang up button Go To home, long press ask to shutdown Android)

If you can distinguish between 'back' and 'hang up' (and 'right', and between 'home', 'send' and 'left'), I consider that working Navi, albeit without LEDs. So things are not as weird as I feared.

on my sprint diam500, [...] the touch screen is reversed( you have to click at the top of the screen to touch a button on the bottom, vice versa)
The raph/diam500 may need the same calibration as the raph/diam800 then. See settings on the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux#Hardwarex20.differ encesx20.andx20.configurations).

-Jobo

[c4software]

@J0b0: Yep navi seems working. But the button to get call seems non working. And the navi ring led doesn't flash.

[skero666]

I have tried the new build DIAM100, navipad lights don't work for me (but i don't know if it's because of the ROM, i flashed Claudyfa's wm 6.5 beta2), sensitive wheel works, with OI File Explorer .apk i don't have the crash issue when opening a file, buttons: home:left, up:up, Down:down, Left:left, Right:back(:confused:), back:back, end:home(default in spare parts), send:left.

Nice progress, wish you the best of luck

[g0ldenchild562]

is it possible to get this working on HTC Touch Pro CDMA phone?b\

[petay]

i tried the new version on my DAIM100.it took me 2 go's to get it too boot. seems to be working well it knows the difference between back and call end, as well as menu/call start. the navi lights arround the circle do nothing for me, but the 4 other lights are lit. i can also use the navi scroll to go up and down. Its nice to see the clock working :)

also its nice to see the screen timeout is already disabled and the end key is mapped to home already. that should stop some of the questions on here!!!

[sibbor]

I've tested with both "20090222" and "20090222-ALTERNATE" on my DIAM100 - and the result is the same:


The LED's works; the four (4) LED's around the navi pad is constantly lit
The navi pad works; I can scroll trough different parts of Android
Buttons: it was a bit difficult to use right/left because of the navi function; it sometimes wanted to scroll instead. Home button = popups a menu in different situations, End button = Home button (Spare parts config), Back = Back
Yes, the date & clock works correctly
Calling my device results in a busy tone immediately; although I do believe it's Android sending the busy tone somehow, because there's a short crackling sounds in my unshielded stereo here at work ;)
The touchscreen works out beautifully (although it's a bit too "sensitive")

[Gautje]

- My leds do not work...
- In the filebrowser I seem not able to browse/open any file
- In for example pacman, I think the touchpad must be disabled, since playing is impossible because it moves up/down all the time... Not nice :(
- Compas crashes at starting it...
- Changing volume works, but the speaker does not :)
- My last report is still into count: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3359096&postcount=2382

- EDIT: Where my "Internal storage", or "SD-Card" in my Diamond worked in the build I downloaded a few days ago, it does not in the 20090222 build... Strange, no?

[shikigamild]

With the new version now the buttons and the navi pad works properly on my DIAM210.

Thanks :)

[NetRipper]

DIAM210? What device is that? Operator? GSM/CDMA? And which MTYPE do you use?

[Untouchab1e]

Ive done some research now and run this through quite a few testers.

The Android package c4software posted and hosted here (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=25) apparantly works for some, but for several users, especially DIAM100-users have reported nit: cannot find '/system/bin/flash_image', disabling 'flash_recovery' and similar errors.

This one (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=26) though, seems to work for most, if not all! Ive noticed a few differences, in default.txt for instance (set initrd root.cpiogz vs set initrd initrd.cpio.gz).

[aldur]

testing on DIAM300 (o2 germany) (booting with USB connection):
using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3365063&postcount=2401)
working:
* Clock and date
* touchscreen works perfectly
* navwheel+right+left+up+down +backkey +hang up ("red button") seem to work fine
* volume up+volume down works fine
* cant see anything happen, when pressing home (go to homescreen?) and pick up ("green button"-should go to dialer?)
* sending/recieving SMS working fine
* software keyboard working


not working:
* no virtual keyboard on pin enter page
* making a phonecall (can dial)
* sound?
* LEDs

* WLAN (wasnt started under winmob)
* bluetooth (hangs on activating)
* camera (displays chessboard+ and moving grey rectangle)
* calendar (does not start)
* android filebrowser (cant change dirs)
* long press end key: power down phone pops up, but hangs when powering down

Phonestatus:
+ network
+ signalstrength
+ servicestate
+ roaming ("no roaming" displayed)?
+ runningtime and activetime
-akkustate
-telephonenumber?
-mobil networktype ("unknown")?

[skero666]

Ive done some research now and run this through quite a few testers.

The Android package c4software posted and hosted here (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=25) apparantly works for some, but for several users, especially DIAM100-users have reported nit: cannot find '/system/bin/flash_image', disabling 'flash_recovery' and similar errors.

This one (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=26) though, seems to work for most, if not all! Ive noticed a few differences, in default.txt for instance (set initrd root.cpiogz vs set initrd initrd.cpio.gz).

Tried this one too on my DIAM100, i am impressed. All the hardware keys work fine (no navipad lights though). home:menu, send:send, end:end/home, up:up,
down:down, left:left, right:right, back:back, enter:enter/select, touchweel works..somehow, only up/down movement. i can access my internal memory now :D yuppppy, still no thumbnails, dunno why..., another new thing: i can receive calls, this is the most biggest step i think, still no voice, but it's a start. i'm impressed. Congratulations!

[shikigamild]

DIAM210? What device is that? Operator? GSM/CDMA? And which MTYPE do you use?

Japanese Emobile S21HT.
The network is WCDMA but the phone is actually the GSM version with WCDMA support.
I'm using the default MTYPE, so I believe it is 1805

This is the official web page of the S21HT:
http://emobile.jp/products/ht/s21ht/

[elamodelmerol]

confirmed android-diam100-20090222.rar works just fine with my DIAM100

[Untouchab1e]

confirmed android-diam100-20090222.rar works just fine with my DIAM100

I am puzzled as to why for some DIAM100 that one works, while for others, it doesnt but the alternate do..

[straylight]

I am puzzled as to why for some DIAM100 that one works, while for others, it doesnt but the alternate do..

You're right there has to be a common denominator,
I believe Successful and unsuccessful reports should identify,

1) The model and Network they are on and
2) Whether they plugged the phone into a USB cord Prior to testing.

Ive found the presence (or lack thereof) a USB cord to greatly varies successful boots into Android.

[Gautje]

On mine the normal works fine. The alternate works too :)

I am in The Netherlands, using the KPN network. (Well, Hi, but they use the KPN network). My phone is a Dutch HTC Touch Diamond, said to be the DIAM100.

And I notice that when my USB is plugged in, it boots, but it takes about 7(!) minutes. Sometimes it does not boot at all. When the USB is not plugged in it works perfectly fine (4/5 times), and boots within about a minute.

Any more information needed?

[mrwhite84]

how can I use it without PIN code? :confused:

[Gautje]

how can I use it without PIN code? :confused:

What do you mean? With pincode it does not boot. So you should disable the pin of your sim-card in Windows before booting Android. Then it should work fine...

[mak213]

You mean the audio doesnt work or that you dont recieve the notifications at all?

i cant make or receive calls soon as i dial it hangs up, when ppl call me on there phone it goes straight to voicemail

working:
* Clock and date
* touchscreen works perfectly
* navwheel+right+left+up+down +backkey +hang up ("red button") seem to work fine
* volume up+volume down works fine
* cant see anything happen, when pressing home (go to homescreen?) and pick up ("green button"-should go to dialer?)
* sending/recieving SMS working fine
* software keyboard working
* leds working fine

not working:

* making a phonecall (can dial but hangs up immediatly)
* sound? not tested

* WLAN (error starting up)
* bluetooth
* camera displays squares)
* calendar (does not start)
* cant access internal storage within filebrowser (i tried sdcard but nothing shows)
* long press end key: power down phone pops up, but hangs when powering down

[jutley]

Ive done some research now and run this through quite a few testers.

The Android package c4software posted and hosted here (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=25) apparantly works for some, but for several users, especially DIAM100-users have reported nit: cannot find '/system/bin/flash_image', disabling 'flash_recovery' and similar errors.

This one (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=26) though, seems to work for most, if not all! Ive noticed a few differences, in default.txt for instance (set initrd root.cpiogz vs set initrd initrd.cpio.gz).

same here only the alternate works for me the normal one just dont boot keeps giving me errors on boot keeps complaining about some nit: cannot find '/system/bin/flash_image', disabling 'flash_recovery' i was looking at the file sizes on both vershions the alternate is alot smaller in overall file size are we missing out on something? and i tested using on my htc diamond with wm 6.5 rom

[jutley]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482878 i am using this rom for android and it works the best wm 6.5 rom very stable try it for your self and yes android still works with it what a combination wm 6.5 and android on your phone.

[mak213]

i can boot both alternate and non alternate, when i boot alternate the wallpaper is like cut off from bottom and top and is missing a few programs missing with 1st time boot, 2nd time boot would just freeze up after having like 6 things disabled+the flash recovery thingy so ill be using alternate

[o2xdaexec]

using the alternate download well its running,going to test it at work tmorrro,so far its rather quick with the scroll etc.well done to all involved.shame i cant do more to get involved.

[c4software]

I have make an other video of Android on he diamond.

Android Build 22/02/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZq1xAiXbM8)

[mak213]

am i spose to get bootsound disabled?

[Untouchab1e]

am i spose to get bootsound disabled?

Yeah! We dont have sound working yet :)

[mak213]

thats not superbly important but vibrate doesnt work either so i dont kno when i get txts cuz im not a phone person so i rarely use it, so i actually would stay in android 24/7 if it had some sort of notification. besides point most important few things in order to use phone daily are

1)screen able to turn on and off
2)send/receive calls
3)ring and/or vibrate
4)battery notification

[joaosousa]

where can i get the latest working version for diamond?

[chinmay007]

oh my GOD:eek:, this was the most amazing OS on diamond. would love to have it any day. just tried the vs for some time. though no phone / sound but the interface was too good.

[Gautje]

where can i get the latest working version for diamond?

Come on! READ!

[Untouchab1e]

where can i get the latest working version for diamond?

Seriously, its written 3 posts above yours (in my Signature)..

Just go to Connect-utb.com, and you will find the latest version for the Diamond and Raphael.

[ibmxx187]

ive been searching all day to try to figure out if android will run on the vzw touch pro (raph500) and if so how do you get it to run? it always hangs up on boot

[setix]

is there a way to access the internal storage on the diam500 through android?
and
is there a way too change it to cdma?

ive searched, but did not find anything relevant.

[Untouchab1e]

is there a way to access the internal storage on the diam500 through android?
and
is there a way too change it to cdma?

ive searched, but did not find anything relevant.

The newest Android package for Diamond (if you get it running on your Diam500) should let you access your storage card.

Not sure what you want to "change to cdma" though..

[setix]

The newest Android package for Diamond (if you get it running on your Diam500) should let you access your storage card.

Not sure what you want to "change to cdma" though..

Im on sprint, which is cdma, not gsm

[kwaille]

should let you access your storage card.

Yes,but where?Stupid question?

Working nice on my orange diam100,can browse pictures,but not files!

Can make a call,navi light "charging"...

First version didn't worked for me,alternate did.

[Untouchab1e]

Im on sprint, which is cdma, not gsm

All Raph500's are CDMA, which is the channel access method used in the US. Its hardware based and you cant change it. That's still irrelevant, as Android works on both, so I am not sure I understand your problem unless you are not able to boot up Andriod (which you haven't mentioned I think)..

Getting late here (03:16.. better get some sleep)

[setix]

im able to boot up android using the latest diam100 build, but it shows gsm in the linux bootup. should I try the raph500?

[Jackalo]

All Raph500's are CDMA, which is the channel access method used in the US. Its hardware based and you cant change it. That's still irrelevant, as Android works on both, so I am not sure I understand your problem unless you are not able to boot up Andriod (which you haven't mentioned I think)..

Getting late here (03:16.. better get some sleep)

As far as I know, it's actually Raph800 for CDMA. Enjoy your sleep. :p

[mak213]

will we ever get apps working? like not being a a$$ for rushing but im just saying is it in the line of work? (will be implemented soon?)

[ibmxx187]

ive been searching all day to try to figure out if android will run on the vzw touch pro (raph500) and if so how do you get it to run? it always hangs up on boot

can anyone help me?
has anyone successfully got android to boot on their VERIZON touch pro?

[Untouchab1e]

As far as I know, it's actually Raph800 for CDMA. Enjoy your sleep. :p

Considering that the Raph500 is being sold by Verizon in the US, it has to be CDMA as well ;)

[setix]

will we ever get apps working? like not being a a$$ for rushing but im just saying is it in the line of work? (will be implemented soon?)

apps are already working, if you can find places to dl them on the net, place them in the new apps folder in the TMP folder and android will install them.

[Vizzimo]

Okay i will upload it. i compil the lastest 2.6.27 kernel on git, navipad seems okay.

A bit late, but thanks! I'll give it a try! :)

[joaosousa]

[Edited] oppps..I've found the solution...

[DArens90]

hey guys, I've been following this thread with great enthusiasm. Tried the latest Version-20090222 on my DIAM100 and is has always immediately booted since now, so seems really stable! I have a question on how to get internet access working through usb... but don't bother answering if you don't consider it necessary! just wanted to let you know that I've tested a couple of versions of the diamond android port and they all worked. the last one sometimes hung while booting at a line something like 'mmc...ko', I don't quite remember. but the new one has booted flawlessly! oh, and the led ring around the center button does not light up at any time, but all the 4 backlights of the hardware buttons are constantly lighted. don't know if it's of interest, so I'm just letting you know! Thanks for your work!

[aldur]

tested Version-20090222 on DIAM300:
(boots only with usb connection (alternate one, too))
+ homekey now brings up menu at some places
+ LEDs show loading animation when key pressed

[hasseye]

heyy guys im trying to get android runin on my diamond. I saw the wiki but it doesnt seem lik theres either been that much progress or havent been updated. I'm just trying to mess around, not trying to use it as a daily OS. Can anyway PM me the files, or send me the links to the newst files?

[setix]

heyy guys im trying to get android runin on my diamond. I saw the wiki but it doesnt seem lik theres either been that much progress or havent been updated. I'm just trying to mess around, not trying to use it as a daily OS. Can anyway PM me the files, or send me the links to the newst files?

search the thread..... there are links to the latest builds in untouchab1es sig

[fireburster]

the 222 build says its not signed and cant be run. I had no problems with the 204 build. Anyone else having this issue on a diam 100? I did update my radio to 1.11 yesterday. Rom version 3.02.707.2 wwe is what i am running now and when it did work.

[mak213]

any sites of top of the head to look for? apps that is

[hasseye]

search the thread..... there are links to the latest builds in untouchab1es sig

Can you shed any light to where i should look theres gotta be over 100 pages on just this thread alone, nevermind any other ones....i thought the main place was the wiki i guess not.

[Untouchab1e]

Can you shed any light to where i should look theres gotta be over 100 pages on just this thread alone, nevermind any other ones....i thought the main place was the wiki i guess not.

*Sigh*.. he told you! Check my sig.. --> connect-utb.com!

[ibmxx187]

can anyone help me?
has anyone successfully got android to boot on their VERIZON touch pro?

ANYONE???? help i cannot get it to boot it always hangs up or shows an error
is anyone having problems with their raph500 (verizon)

[los1223]

Hey everyone. I've been away from the scene and noticed this project has come a long ways! Great work everyone! I just have one question. I remember some people had reported it messing something up and having to hard reset to correct. Is this still the case or is it been fixed? TIA =)

[Jackalo]

Considering that the Raph500 is being sold by Verizon in the US, it has to be CDMA as well ;)

Sorry about that, I didn't realize there was another model floating around out there for CDMA. I knew that Verizon had gimped it, but I thought it was still under the Raph800 part number. :confused:

[BrumBrum74]

Have read quite a few pages in this thread (almost all), but haven't seen any comments lately if anyone managed to get EDGE working. Anyone?

This build is working well for me (Alternate one) on my Diamond. But looks like a few applications are missing (google maps and gmail):

[Untouchab1e]

Have read quite a few pages in this thread (almost all), but haven't seen any comments lately if anyone managed to get EDGE working. Anyone?

This build is working well for me (Alternate one) on my Diamond. But looks like a few applications are missing (google maps and gmail):


Google Maps and Gmail isnt missing, but it requires that you set up your google account with Android first. There is no point in doing that as we dont have data going and other vital functions are still missing! ;)

[Abercrombi3]

hey guys just wondering if this is fully working as a actual mobile platform yet? im interested in putting it on my phone but want to make sure the thing will still work as a phone :) this is for my diamond by the way :)

[sensorama]

Read the thread or try it to find out.
Simple as that.

[Abercrombi3]

Read the thread or try it to find out.
Simple as that.

wow way to make a new member simply asking a question feel unwelcome, excuse me if i don't want to read through a 240+ page forum discussion to figure out if this is stable to use as a everyday device... :mad::mad:

[crucytor]

You didn't read anything! [PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING"

[sibbor]

wow way to make a new member simply asking a question feel unwelcome, excuse me if i don't want to read through a 240+ page forum discussion to figure out if this is stable to use as a everyday device... :mad::mad:Welcome to XDA-Developers.com!
Now, go read the interesting and nice wiki about the topic - found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux

[Abercrombi3]

You didn't read anything!

well after reading afew pages and seeing some youtube clips of it working i wanted to know to which extent it was at in development, anyway i think ill just give up on the idea seeing as it doesn't seem anyone really wants to help..

[sensorama]

wow way to make a new member simply asking a question feel unwelcome, excuse me if i don't want to read through a 240+ page forum discussion to figure out if this is stable to use as a everyday device... :mad::mad:

Well, its the truth. Plain and simple. If you are offended by it. Tough.
Wellcome to xda. Have a nice stay.

[Untouchab1e]

well after reading afew pages and seeing some youtube clips of it working i wanted to know to which extent it was at in development, anyway i think ill just give up on the idea seeing as it doesn't seem anyone really wants to help..

I am sorry you feel that way. I have spent a lot of time helping people with this since December, here on the forums, on the htc-android.com forums and on personal email, but I hope you can see how some get upset when people dont bother to read the first page or even the topic title before asking a question that has been very well documented. What is the point of having a Wiki if no one wants to read it because they think they can just ask their question in the forum and then just expect someone to hand them the answer that someone else have already described in the Wiki and the forums..

Personally, I have been answering the same questions over and over again. I dont mind as I just want to help out as many as possible (check out htc-android.com and connect-utb.com)..

If you bothered to read more then to posts (out of nearly 2500), you would see how many people has been doing nothing but helping out everyone they can..


Now, back to topic. As the title states, Android is currently not working fully. Check out the wiki to see what works and what doesnt, but its sufficient to say that audio and mic doesnt work yet, so calls arent of much use yet, and power management doesnt work either, so the display has to be turned on constantly. Additionally, we are still dependant on the init's done in WinMo before booting into Android!

Hope this answered your questions. Again, sorry you dont feel you got the help you needed, but if you cant see why some get upset, then I am not suprised you feel that way.

[sensorama]

If you bothered to read more then to posts (out of nearly 2500), you would see how many people has been doing nothing but helping out everyone they can..


Ive been following and reading this thread since page one.
Now back to topic.

[ibmxx187]

Sorry about that, I didn't realize there was another model floating around out there for CDMA. I knew that Verizon had gimped it, but I thought it was still under the Raph800 part number. :confused:

its okayy yeah its a different version i dont think its very different in hardware though
i just couldnt get android to work on it =[

[Gautje]

By the way, when you need someone that flashes his/her ROM to test Android, I'd offer myself. If I know that calling woudln't be a problem (Or that it could be solved within several days/two weeks), I wouldn't mind to remove Windows Mobile. (You know, just so that my device wouldn't be completely useless...)

I think that when a new ROM has been released, the possibilities increase lots, and developing can continue :)

Please let me know when you guys are that far. (Through the forum, or through my website; http://www.gautam.nl. For the ones that do not speak Dutch, it's the big button on the right bottom corner, that says "Mail mij!")

Gautam :)

[Untouchab1e]

By the way, when you need someone that flashes his/her ROM to test Android, I'd offer myself. If I know that calling woudln't be a problem (Or that it could be solved within several days/two weeks), I wouldn't mind to remove Windows Mobile. (You know, just so that my device wouldn't be completely useless...)

I think that when a new ROM has been released, the possibilities increase lots, and developing can continue :)

Please let me know when you guys are that far. (Through the forum, or through my website; http://www.gautam.nl. For the ones that do not speak Dutch, it's the big button on the right bottom corner, that says "Mail mij!")

Gautam :)


I dont think we need to think about making any Android ROM's just yet. Even on the Kaiser and Vogue (I think), where Android is suitable for daily usage has there been made a dedicated ROM for it. I think the current solution works just fine, at least untill we have all the quirks sorted out. And there are quite a few..

[o2xdaexec]

just a update on my few days with android...well its quick,easy to use people can call me and i can call same for txt but cant reply or talk on phone.
keep up the good work lads.
just one little thing i find the easy way a round all the posts is start at the last post go back for at least 30-40 posts see whats happening read the wiki it does work.then read the 1st 40 posts this gives you a idea of where its gone from.

[richs1992]

hi all,
I have 2 question : is it possible to return to a base rom after testing android ?
besides is it egual the guide for the RAPH on how to install android on a DIAM ?
thanks and excuse me if there is yet another question like this :rolleyes:

[Gautje]

After a soft reboot you return to Windows. And your second questio is not clear to me.

[Untouchab1e]

besides is it egual the guide for the RAPH on how to install android on a DIAM ?
thanks and excuse me if there is yet another question like this :rolleyes:

If you go to connect-utb.com and find the download which suits your device you will see detailed step-by-step set up instructions ;) But yeah, the process is pretty much the same for the DIAM and the RAPH.

[torrentulla]

untouchable what a great job you are doing thanks for this contribution i tried this built on my diamond one its say alternative that works on mine running quite good able to make phone calls can do text. will look forward for updates thanks for your hardwork again

[Untouchab1e]

untouchable what a great job you are doing thanks for this contribution i tried this built on my diamond one its say alternative that works on mine running quite good able to make phone calls can do text. will look forward for updates thanks for your hardwork again

Thanks! But J0b0, NetRipper, Maejrep, and many others deserve just as much, if not more credit!

Glad Android is booting for you ;)

[richs1992]

thanks a lot to all,
I'm thinking to test it because i'm very interesting at this project. you are incredible , the best .:)

[Riel]

Dutch language option works great too, reacts well.

Any idea how to get that blue keyboard dot gone, don't seem to need it.

No leds are burning, no sounds playing, but SMS works (send/recieve).

Very nice ;)

Diam100.

[Tenny]

Working pretty decently on my CDMA Diamond.

The touch screen is backwards still (you drag from bottom to up to see the notifications, etc), and the colors are off still.

Great work guys!

My G/F just picked up the G1, and I am very jealous right now!

[setix]

Working pretty decently on my CDMA Diamond.

The touch screen is backwards still (you drag from bottom to up to see the notifications, etc), and the colors are off still.

Great work guys!

My G/F just picked up the G1, and I am very jealous right now!

to fix the touch screen, use the calibration settings from the raph800 on the wiki

[dervish666]

Where can I get Android?

Why can't I phone with it?

Why doesn't it do x y z?

Why do I have to actually read the thread or the thread title to find out whats going on?

FFS!!!

I'd just like to say thanks to all the people who are answering all the questions from the lazy people that can't be bothered to do even the smallest research to find out what going on in a very complicated project. It's really bugging me how many people can't be bothered to read the thread and expect others to do it for them.

And obviously thanks to all that are working on getting the project up and running, it really is appreciated, I for one can't wait for it to be ready.

So thank you!

[jutley]

i found something interesting to put on my nokia n810 when its avalable enjoy

http://www.itpro.co.uk/609997/video-two-operating-systems-on-one-phone

[danielmtz]

Working pretty decently on my CDMA Diamond.

The touch screen is backwards still (you drag from bottom to up to see the notifications, etc), and the colors are off still.

Great work guys!

My G/F just picked up the G1, and I am very jealous right now!

I have the same results.. ^^

[setix]

to fix the touch screen, use the calibration settings from the raph800 on the wiki[/url]

^^read my post^^

[ibmxx187]

has anyone got this to work on their VERIZON touch pro aka the Raph500?

[Untouchab1e]

Have you tried this (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=19) build for the Raph500?

What errors are you getting?

[ibmxx187]

Have you tried this (http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=19) build for the Raph500?

What errors are you getting?

yes i did ive tried all settings on both builds with and without activesync i was talking to you on htc-android.com earlier i posted all of the errors i got
heres the thread
http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=109&sid=9c4598d1386488cf3be2c7b2d42662f0&start=80

[FireGX]

Hey, I'd just like to say good work to all the programmers/developers/whatever you guys are XD.

I was just wondering how close we are to getting Android 100% running on a raphael, if it is going to be possible at all.

Thanks, and keep up the good work! People like you make xda-developers great =)

[ibmxx187]

Hey, I'd just like to say good work to all the programmers/developers/whatever you guys are XD.

I was just wondering how close we are to getting Android 100% running on a raphael, if it is going to be possible at all.

Thanks, and keep up the good work! People like you make xda-developers great =)

well the title says "NOT YET WORKING" so im guessing not too close?
i still cant even get it to boot on my verizon touch pro and no one has come up with a fix or solution for my problem =[
hopefully a new build will be released soon!

[cl4ud1o]

Hi, i'm trying Android on my Diam but i do not send a sms. It just recieved sms. How do i setting sms sending? i use vodafone IT. Thanks :)

[ibmxx187]

okay here are the errors i get on the raph500 (verizon)

for build 20090203 with id=2 it hangs up at:
2.010061 trout_pwrsink_set:STUB!
2.018789 trout_pwrsink_set:STUB!
2.023082 trout_pwrsink_set:STUB!
2.050000 trout_pwrsink_set:STUB!
i get the same error when i try it with activesync

for build 20090203 with id=3 it hangs up at:
mmcblk0: p1
same error with activesync


on build 20090219
id=2
i get the errors:
init: cannot find '/system/bin/sh', disabling 'console'
'/system/bin/servicemanager', disabling ,servicemanager,
/mountd', disabling 'debugger'
/rild', disabling 'rild'
/app_process,
/mediaserver
/playmp3
/dbus-daemon
/installd
/flash_image

id=3 trout_pwrsink_set:STUB! and it freezes there


HELP!!! I want android!!

[Tenny]

okay here are the errors i get on the raph500 (verizon)

for build 20090203 with id=3 it hangs up at:
mmcblk0: p1
same error with activesync

HELP!!! I want android!!

With my DIAM500 (CDMA) it also hangs here, but if I restart the phone, and load it up again w/o changing anything, it loads fine. Just always does that the first time it seems...

[cornelious2]

with my sprint TP it hangs after the calibration. I think the timing might be off on my sd card.

[ibmxx187]

With my DIAM500 (CDMA) it also hangs here, but if I restart the phone, and load it up again w/o changing anything, it loads fine. Just always does that the first time it seems...

still doesnt work for me
are you using a custom rom or the stock? and is your phone unlocked?
im about to hard reset and see if it does anything

[touch_android_user]

Hi, I have a Sprint Touch Pro (RAPH800)
I have the Sprint Raphael Radio V1.11.00F
I also have MightyRom 4.12 installed

I have loaded the Android files onto my 4GB micro-SHDC card via ActiveSync.

My problem is that Android won't boot! It gives me errors including:

mmc1: command timeout
mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /mmc failed: No such device or address
mounting /mmc/tmp/system.e2img on /system failed: No such file or directory
etc.

I have reformatted my micro-SD card to FAT32 and also tried msmsdcc_id of 1, 2, and 3.

Please help me! Thanks so much!!! I really appreciate it = )