Vogue vs. Elf

[hurbin]

I guess i may be mistaken, but

Are the "Vogue" and the "Elf" the same phone?

As far as i know Vogue = Sprint, Not sure what the nickname for the US Alltel version of the touch is not sure if the elf is just the gsm version of the phone and the vogue is the cdma version... If someone could please let me know, would be appreciated. Thanks.

[guardianfox]

That's the basic way of explaining it, Elf=GSM, Vogue=CDMA.

You'll notice they're both often called Touch, which led to some consumer confusion over capabilities (specifically wifi in the CDMA version).

The Elf(GSM) has WiFi and 64 MB RAM + 128 MB ROM.

The Vogue(CDMA) does not have WiFi, but it does have GPS which can be enabled using a cooked rom. It's memory is 128 MB RAM + 256 MB ROM.

I'm certain there are other notable differences, but these are the main ones.


Are you looking to purchase one or the other? If that's the case, I suggest waiting for the Touch Pro and the Touch Diamond to make their debuts first. They represent significant upgrades, and if you still wish to get an Elf or Vogue you'll probably get them cheaper.

[hurbin]

I have the alltel touch. i am just trying to get some information together and would like to change up roms and what not. didn't want to just jump into throwing something on my phone and screwing everything up. the only modding i've done to the phone is some basic registry settings, ui customization. so i would like to do it correctly. idk i feel like a tard asking this stuff. but is there really advantage to jumping to wm6.1 or a different "radio version"?

[guardianfox]

I have the alltel touch. i am just trying to get some information together and would like to change up roms and what not. didn't want to just jump into throwing something on my phone and screwing everything up. the only modding i've done to the phone is some basic registry settings, ui customization. so i would like to do it correctly. idk i feel like a tard asking this stuff. but is there really advantage to jumping to wm6.1 or a different "radio version"?

There's some new features in 6.1, nothing that's really caught my eye but I know that there's a few fans of it out there.

The real benefit is enabling GPS and EVDO Rev. A.

Since you're on Alltel, you've got the advantage of going with the official rom straight from HTC. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=64&act=sd For GPS there's some tweaks required (search the forum).

There's a lot of cooked roms out there, with various pros and cons. Keep in mind that they all share one common con, they're warranty-voiders.

[ghettofreeryder]

Another difference is that the elf has a 201Mhz TI processor, where as the Vogue has a 400 Mhz Qualcomm processor

[neurocutie]

That's the basic way of explaining it, Elf=GSM, Vogue=CDMA.
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I'm certain there are other notable differences, but these are the main ones.Couple more practical issues. The Elf and Vogue take the same battery (good). However the Elf and Vogue are NOT exactly the same size! (bad). The CDMA Vogue is slightly larger and therefore not all accessories designed for the Elf will fit the Vogue -- most will, BUT one notable exception is that the early cradles designed for the Elf will NOT fit the Vogue (without some modification). People have destroyed their Vogue USB ports trying to forcefit their Vogue into an Elf cradle.

[guardianfox]

Couple more practical issues. The Elf and Vogue take the same battery (good). However the Elf and Vogue are NOT exactly the same size! (bad). The CDMA Vogue is slightly larger and therefore not all accessories designed for the Elf will fit the Vogue -- most will, BUT one notable exception is that the early cradles designed for the Elf will NOT fit the Vogue (without some modification). People have destroyed their Vogue USB ports trying to forcefit their Vogue into an Elf cradle.

Good warning, I hadn't noticed that.

[mickliq]

Another difference is that the elf has a 201Mhz TI processor, where as the Vogue has a 400 Mhz Qualcomm processor

I'm wondering what the battery life of the Vogue is if it's running a 400mhz processor and EVDO Rev A (3G) on the same size battery as the Elfin? Must be terrible?!? We have the Elfin and it barely lasts the day on Edge (2.5G GSM).

[guardianfox]

I'm wondering what the battery life of the Vogue is if it's running a 400mhz processor and EVDO Rev A (3G) on the same size battery as the Elfin? Must be terrible?!? We have the Elfin and it barely lasts the day on Edge (2.5G GSM).

Let's pick a few scenarios:

1. Standby, bluetooth/internet/gps inactive, but ready to recieve a call.
- I haven't ever seen the phone reach a battery warning in this state. I've stored it for a week like this and returned to a %60 charge... and a few dozen missed calls.

2. Standby + 30-minute-interval GPS locks (also turns on screen for 1 minute), bluetooth at ready, and occasional automatic internet connections.
- These are the settings I now use since update. It shows about a %70 charge after a couple short calls and 2 days.

3. Heavy usage, full brightness on screen, continuous GPS use, etc...
- I can usually expect 5-6 hours of video, internet, texting, etc before warnings. 3-4 on full brightness.
- Constant GPS seems to drain the battery a bit faster, not sure by how much yet.
- Talk time, with bluetooth headset, at least outlasts my headset (~1 1/2 hrs)
- Talk time without bluetooth? I haven't hit the limit. I've had calls as long as 4 hours with no warnings. But honestly didn't buy this thing to talk.


I hope this gives you a vague idea. These are personal experiences based on my own settings, ymmv.

[Daved+]

Couple more practical issues. The Elf and Vogue take the same battery (good). However the Elf and Vogue are NOT exactly the same size! (bad). The CDMA Vogue is slightly larger and therefore not all accessories designed for the Elf will fit the Vogue -- most will, BUT one notable exception is that the early cradles designed for the Elf will NOT fit the Vogue (without some modification). People have destroyed their Vogue USB ports trying to forcefit their Vogue into an Elf cradle.
Good to know that, I am looking for a crystal case for the Vogue and seems I will be out of luck because I have yet to see one not made for the Elf :(

[TheChampJT]

Good to know that, I am looking for a crystal case for the Vogue and seems I will be out of luck because I have yet to see one not made for the Elf :(

LOL! Are you the same guy from PPCGeeks?