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Mugen Power
09-07-2008, 09:30 AM
HTC Shift Battery HLI-X9500XL
For HTC Shift
Li-LON battery with battery door
Battery Type: External Battery
(Coming soon)

Battery life:
In our movie playback test, it lasted approximately 4 hours
with Bluetooth adaptors enabled and brightness set at near maximum.

Remark: Battery can fit for use the original HTC Shift jacket

benktlottie
09-07-2008, 01:53 PM
WOW! Apart from the cmonex thread posted earlier about HARDSPL, this is the second exciting thing for the Shift today!

Please bigger battery, come soon! LOL

Please post the link

x5-rwk
09-07-2008, 04:03 PM
That is awesome, sign me up. I can't wait. :) :) :)

hetallerbeste
14-07-2008, 07:20 PM
Where and when can we buy this battery?
Because two hours is not enough for me!

devictoria
14-07-2008, 10:40 PM
I got this response from http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/ :

Thank you for your kind email and pre-order of a HLI-X9500XL Mugen Power battery for a HTC Shift UMPC device. We will inform you as soon as we know the exact pricing and shipping date.

If you have any further questions or wish to change you shipping address, please inform us accordingly.

jarbi
16-07-2008, 09:57 AM
It is a nice perspective, but with this battery I wouldn't be able to use my Proporta alu case ( which I like very much ! ). Maybe Proporta will make one for the Mugen battery some time later ;-).

foxmeister
16-07-2008, 10:18 PM
Considering the extra size, 4 hours seems a little disappointing. However, it looks like a good product and so long as it is reasonably priced, I will be buying one.

Regards,

Dave

ranxda
18-07-2008, 07:42 PM
If it's really 4 hours of video I consider a nice upgrade...
with the original battery almost 6 hours of juice is pretty decent.
Downside obviously having to carry an extra battery.


I"ll buy for sure.



I couldnt find it on the website... even on the new releases section...
anyone did?

Settembrini
26-07-2008, 08:18 AM
Hi,
they have announced the battery (batteries) for the 3. week in August.
Two versions: 4400mAh for 169,95 $ and 6600mAH for 239,95 $.

Do you think it is worth it?
S.

rustamb
26-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Sure it is. I bought my HTC Shift yesterday, and I'm also disappointed with battery life. Now installing ubuntu on it. I think with ubuntu and 6600mAH battery it will work more than 4 hours.

Does anyone made any battery benchmarks comparison between Vista and Ubuntu?

hetallerbeste
29-07-2008, 09:30 AM
Does anyone made any battery benchmarks comparison between Vista and Ubuntu?

Maybe you can be the first one. Why do you think that there will be more woking hours with UBUNTU on battery?

barenbaren
29-07-2008, 06:15 PM
Do any accessory batteries for the HTC Shift fit when using the factory supplied screwed-on (USA version) cover? It looks like there could be some room given the cover design but only a fit test would tell for certain -

rustamb
05-08-2008, 09:31 AM
Maybe you can be the first one. Why do you think that there will be more woking hours with UBUNTU on battery?

I don't think there is more working hours with ubuntu now

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381915&page=8

Could you share your ideas on how we can improve battery life in ubuntu?

dave3211
19-08-2008, 06:58 PM
I have tried to contact Mugen with no success to ask these questions.

1. I have the attached case on my Shift, will this affect connecting the Mugen battery?
2. How much weight is added to Shift when you connect Mugen battery?
3. What is the rating on extra battery life, I read in earlier post 4 hours, is this on "performance setting"?
4. Does Mugen ship from US or Europe, if Europe, are there brokerage fees?

Dave

Ommog
20-08-2008, 09:07 AM
I have tried to contact Mugen with no success to ask these questions.

1. I have the attached case on my Shift, will this affect connecting the Mugen battery?
2. How much weight is added to Shift when you connect Mugen battery?
3. What is the rating on extra battery life, I read in earlier post 4 hours, is this on "performance setting"?
4. Does Mugen ship from US or Europe, if Europe, are there brokerage fees?

Dave

to 3. you can calculate by your own experience
Original Battery 2700mAh
HLI-X9500ML 4400mAh
HLI-X9500XL 6600mAh

dave3211
27-08-2008, 08:12 AM
Has anyone received this battery?

If yes, do you have Shift US model with screwed on cover, can battery fit and co-exist with cover?

Dave3211

McDoPDA
29-08-2008, 04:15 PM
I just received a mail from Mugen for the dispatching of my order. I hope I will have it (the 6600 mAh) next week. I will post a feedback and pictures.

alazarid
29-08-2008, 04:57 PM
I just received a mail from Mugen for the dispatching of my order. I hope I will have it (the 6600 mAh) next week. I will post a feedback and pictures.

I am still waiting for that mail, I have ordered it since 20th of August and still nothing

I will review it and post it as soon as I receive it.

Regards

wu5262
30-08-2008, 01:21 AM
I have also received an mail saying they have dispatch my order, 6600 one, will report back when I receive it, hope it's not going to be huge....

batghost
31-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I have buy this battery using paypal, i have received email saying that my payment is ok, but i wonder for how long i must wait till this wonder gadget arrived at my country (jakarta, indonesia)

I have liberated my device using thaihugo gps rom, if only i can get access to sd card, all of my wish is come true.

meanbiker
01-09-2008, 05:08 PM
Well, am I the first to receive the 6600mAH version? It's on and charging.

They supply an extra case that clips over the larger battery into the original clip-on cover fixings. The battery is also secured with the original red batery retainers. It's very neat and the new battery cover looks every bit part of the Shift.

I can confirm that the Proporta cover no longer fits.

batghost
01-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Well, am I the first to receive the 6600mAH version? It's on and charging.

They supply an extra case that clips over the larger battery into the original clip-on cover fixings. The battery is also secured with the original red batery retainers. It's very neat and the new battery cover looks every bit part of the Shift.

I can confirm that the Proporta cover no longer fits.

Can you give us photo detail, plisssssss, i can't wait to see it

Settembrini
01-09-2008, 08:48 PM
I can confirm that the Proporta cover no longer fits.

Hi,
yes photo would be nice.

Does the shift fit into the original cover / bag.

Thanks!
S.

meanbiker
01-09-2008, 10:12 PM
Yes, the original wallet takes the Shift with the larger battery.

A few pics ....

batghost
02-09-2008, 05:24 AM
If you are using mid brightness, and use "power saver"
How long this battery is going to last

Thanks bro

meanbiker
03-09-2008, 09:41 AM
Well yesterday it was attached to the internet for 5 hours (wireless off). So let's see what it can do today!!

yonathanaris
03-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Well yesterday it was attached to the internet for 5 hours (wireless off). So let's see what it can do today!!

Boy !!! cant wait for mine to arrived

Settembrini
04-09-2008, 03:06 PM
Hi meanbiker,

from Mugenpower I got an email telling me that the battery was dispatched exactly one week ago 28.8.08, but it hasn't yet arrived 4.9.08.
I find it a little bit strange that it takes that long to transport the thing from Holland to Germany. I really cannot believe it.

Do you know or remember if your battery came from Holland or from some other place? China or the moon?

Thanks a lot!
S.

Settembrini
04-09-2008, 08:41 PM
Hi,
so it wasn't Mugenpower's fault that delivery took exactly one week. The battery had arrived two days after dispatch, but it was taken by neighbours and the damn postman (actually a nice bloke) didn't slip some piece of information into my letterbox that he left it with the neighbours.
The neighbours on the other hand thought, he had done so and they said they had tried to contact me, but obviously when I was not at home.
Too cut a long story short. I got the battery an hour ago , it fits, it is charging and I am quite happy.
Why only quite? I do not doubt the quality of the battery, but somehow the Shift has become a different piece of gadgetry. It is heavy, it is bulky, it is more of a compromise than ever before and I do not really know if I wanted a bulky product like that in the first place.

And I ask you, would you have bought it had it come like the brick it is now?

As the famous philosopher Mick Jagger once said: "You can't always get what you want..."

S.

dave3211
05-09-2008, 01:59 AM
Hi,

I have 2 questions:

Has anyone with North American device received the Mugen battery? If yes, was there any issues with removing the case?

Settembrini, you mentioned the device seem like a brick, according to Mugen, the battery add 312 grams to the device, thats about 3/4 lb, does it make the device really unmanageable to hold or does it add too much weight to carry. I am looking for more detail since I am looking to get the 6600 battery and want to understand any negative so I can make an informed decision. At this time, weight is not a huge issue, my regular laptop is 6Lbs and the Shift is much much lighter. I do sometime hold the device with one hand and use styli with other, I may have to start back to the gym to improve my strength for holding with one hand (just kidding about the gym)

I am really hoping you can provide some detail as to why the term "brick", is it weight, more difficult to carry, more difficult to hold, etc

This is a sincere question, I am not trying to stir up any controversy.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Hileotech
05-09-2008, 07:43 AM
Hi,


Settembrini, you mentioned the device seem like a brick, according to Mugen, the battery add 312 grams to the device, thats about 3/4 lb, does it make the device really unmanageable to hold or does it add too much weight to carry. I am looking for more detail since I am looking to get the 6600 battery and want to understand any negative so I can make an informed decision. At this time, weight is not a huge issue, my regular laptop is 6Lbs and the Shift is much much lighter. I do sometime hold the device with one hand and use styli with other, I may have to start back to the gym to improve my strength for holding with one hand (just kidding about the gym)


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Sorry to slip into this thread, but I think Settembrini meant exactly what I felt looking meanbiker's photos... I don't argue about utility and, of course, power/time shift-up. I mean that one of the reasons why I bought the Shift was because of its look-and-feel. Out of the box you can really appreciate its line and balanced weight, its proportions etc. I can easily understand that, as you attach an inch thick "thing" to the bottom of our jewel, its "look" changes very much.
Of course, here, you have to make a choice: beautyful and "short runner" or a little bit ugly but "hi-capacity-driven"---
As far as I am concerned and because of the use I make of my Shift I prefere the first solution. :cool:

Settembrini
05-09-2008, 08:16 AM
Sorry to slip into this thread, but I think Settembrini meant exactly what I felt looking meanbiker's photos... I don't argue about utility and, of course, power/time shift-up. I mean that one of the reasons why I bought the Shift was because of its look-and-feel. Out of the box you can really appreciate its line and balanced weight, its proportions etc. I can easily understand that, as you attach an inch thick "thing" to the bottom of our jewel, its "look" changes very much.
Of course, here, you have to make a choice: beautyful and "short runner" or a little bit ugly but "hi-capacity-driven"---
As far as I am concerned and because of the use I make of my Shift I prefere the first solution. :cool:

Hi,
this indeed is a very nice and precise addition to what I feel and what I have written before. With the extra battery the thing has lost its elegance and balancen and... It is thick: 3,5 centimeters.

Dave, you will certainly be able to hold it in one hand, but it is just more difficult to handle. Another example, if you want to use the keyboard on a desk then of course it is "above" the surface of the table, just about 2,5 centimeters. To get the feeling take thick book with the weight of the Shift plus the extra battery.

S.

dave3211
05-09-2008, 08:54 AM
I am leaning towards utility.

Is it more difficult to type with the Mugen battery, any sliping?

I appreciate the Look and fed comments.

I could away purchase 2 replacement batteries, I would have no hassle with the Us case Then

thank You

trondkk
05-09-2008, 05:34 PM
Myself I have opted for a solution using a Tekkeon MP3450 + MP3450-10 combination (giving a total of 100Wh) to get a really significant boost to batterylife. When the Shift starts to near depletion I simply connect the batterypack with the supplied chord - OR as is most often the case I just charge the Shift after each use with both Shift and batterypack safely in their carry-case. This way the Shift is fully charged when I need it again.
That the batterypack can charge everything running on 6V through 19V (also runs my Lenovo Laptop using 20V) and the fact that it has a separate 5V USB outlet for charging my Athena and every other mini-usb device I have is certainly no drawback either.

I also use a Sunlinq 25W flexible solar charger to charge the batterypack when I am away from the power-grid. A killer combination!

dave3211
05-09-2008, 07:58 PM
What is weight and will it work on 110/220 for North America

trondkk
05-09-2008, 10:18 PM
I ordered mine from the US so that should be no problem (the included poweradapter handles 100v-240v).
Here is a link for specs:
http://www.tekkeon.com/products-mypall-specs.html
For the main unit only the weight is just above 400 grams. With the extra battery it is around 900 grams

Lion Battery
05-09-2008, 11:23 PM
Just as a FYI....

The Mugen Power battery is also available in North America from our web site. We are an authorized distributor for Mugen Power and we offer free worldwide shipping. OK enough spam...back to our regularly scheduled program. :)



Mark :cool:

dave3211
06-09-2008, 05:07 AM
I spoke to the company thats sell the Tekkeon MP3450 + MP3450-10, I think I will go their route.

The external battery can be used for other devices.

My concern with the Mugen solution is having to remove the case.

The Mugen battery looks like you could have issues with the Shift moving around since there is no case/rubber feet on bottom of battery.

To bad the battery was not smaller/thinner and could be used with North American leather case.

The Tekkeon MP3450 + MP3450-10 is same price and works with Shift.

Tekkeon MP3450 + MP3450-10 is more flexible.

Dave

Lion Battery
06-09-2008, 05:19 AM
I spoke to the company thats sell the Tekkeon MP3450 + MP3450-10, I think I will go their route.

The external battery can be used for other devices.


Dave

Dave,

I hate to say this but the Tekkeon is more versatile than our battery. The only advantage I can see with our battery is that you don't have extra wires and it fits in the unit. But I too can clearly see the advantages of the Tekkeon. I have a notebook PC, a HP Smartphone, an iPod, etc. The Tekkeon can power these devices. So it has that advantage.

But if I just wanted to power my HTC Shift and not have to worry about cables and wiring things up, I'd stick with our battery.

Depends on your needs and convenience.


Mark :cool:

alazarid
06-09-2008, 08:22 AM
I would like to mention that I already bought the MP3450 battery and when I was on vacation in an island in Greece (two days after I bought it) I droped it from no more than two feet hight, after this the pack never worked again.

given the reason that I was on vacation and I needed a solution I tryed to open the pack so I could find what went wrong and maybe fix it, but I did not managed to do anything.

A fter that I ordered the mugen battery.

and with with the MP3450 you have to carry all the cables and the power adapter whitch is almost like the size of the battery it self


Sorry for the intrution

foxmeister
06-09-2008, 10:57 AM
The Mugen battery looks like you could have issues with the Shift moving around since there is no case/rubber feet on bottom of battery.

Quick FYI - there are rubber feet at the bottom of the new battery cover supplied with the Mugen battery.

Mine turned up yesterday and I'm pretty happy with it. I already have an external battery back (APC-20000) and prior to the Mugen battery I would leave my Shift on charge in my bag and charge it up whilst I wasn't using it.

This is fine, except when you're on a flight and you want to use the device continuously, when having a separate unit connect via a cable becomes a real pain. This is where the Mugen battery comes into its own for me, but the external battery pack still has its uses too, so having both literally is the best of both worlds.

Regards,

Dave

Lion Battery
06-09-2008, 06:12 PM
Quick FYI - there are rubber feet at the bottom of the new battery cover supplied with the Mugen battery.

Mine turned up yesterday and I'm pretty happy with it. I already have an external battery back (APC-20000) and prior to the Mugen battery I would leave my Shift on charge in my bag and charge it up whilst I wasn't using it.

This is fine, except when you're on a flight and you want to use the device continuously, when having a separate unit connect via a cable becomes a real pain. This is where the Mugen battery comes into its own for me, but the external battery pack still has its uses too, so having both literally is the best of both worlds.

Regards,

Dave

Dave, thanks for bringing that up. I overlooked the feet question. But I do agree that the external battery pack has its value as well as our new battery. Both are great for each purpose.


Mark :cool:

dave3211
07-09-2008, 08:19 AM
Hi Everyone,

Thank You for all the feedback.

There are merits to both solutions.

My biggest concern with the Mugen solution is how it works with North American leather case/sleeve.

For anyone with North American Shift, it ships with a case that is attached to the unit from the bottom. When you call HTC support, they claim you void warranty if you remove the case.

I have asked and have no received a 100% answer, if you remove the attached case, will this cause any issues with the Shift?

Can the attached case still be used with Shift with Mugen battery, ie are there others ways to attach case?

If there are no issues with Shift case with Mugen battery, that levels the playing field between the Mugen solution and external battery.

If the case can not work with Shift/Mugen combo, how do you protect the screen, purchasing a new carry case for Shift adds to Mugen overall solution cost.

The other question is availability, I can get the external solution next week, are the Mugen batteries in stock in US?

Dave

batghost
08-09-2008, 03:03 PM
Dave, thanks for bringing that up. I overlooked the feet question. But I do agree that the external battery pack has its value as well as our new battery. Both are great for each purpose.


Mark :cool:

Most of my works are on the field, electricity that i can get is only on my car, but real pain to setup the charging process

I see that your company is selling battery, is APC-20000 available at your store, if it is, can you deliver to jakarta

I have bought the mugen battery, but i see that APC-20000 is really comin' handy for me, thanx a lot

Or if not, can anyone give reference like perhaps on ebay...

McDoPDA
08-09-2008, 07:00 PM
I received my 6600 mAh Mugen battery last week. It is a very nice add-on for my Shift. I put pictures and a test on my blog (in french, sorry) here : http://ouziel.typepad.com/pierre/2008/09/test-batterie-heute-capacit%C3%A9-mugenpower-6600-mah-pour-htc-shift.html

meanbiker
08-09-2008, 09:47 PM
Still pleased with the battery. The extra size / weight don't bother me much as the increased longivity of operation without having to plug anything in or change battery make it all worthwhile. It's been to the Harz Mountains with me in Germany in my motorbike pannier with only the charger as a friend. I only needed to charge once. Able to program 4 Garmin Sat Navs on the fly whilst out there. My motorbike buddies were all very impressed with the portability and none was any the wiser that the Shiift was really a brick.

Jam.jar
08-09-2008, 09:59 PM
Hi
Got my battery this morning. Charged it fully and I am using now. Still showing 64% remaining and in this session (2.5hrs and counting) I have Wifi on and modem. Have not made any drastic changes to enhance battery life. Just great to be able to use without constantly thinkin about remaining juice. Although expensive I think these batteries will change the way you use your Shift for the better. Pretty tight fit in the supplied wallet. Looks wise... wouldnt say ugly, definitely chunky.

Settembrini
09-09-2008, 09:45 PM
Hi,

I got my Mugenpower battery last week and I'm going to ebay it. Simple reason. Battery is a nice solution if you do not mind the extra weight and that the shift has become bulkier.
If you are interested to just get more power then it is a sensible investment.
Should you be interested in buying the battery at a fair price, it is the XL type, you might contact me with a PM. So far I have charged it only once.
The original price was 186,72 Euros or 285,54 Dollars. Invoice is from 22.8.08, but it arrived a week later.

S.

Settembrini
11-09-2008, 09:33 PM
Hi,
for those who might be interested. I put my mugen battery for sale at ebay:

Akku Batterie Shift HLI-X9500XL
Typ: Li-ION 7.4V, 6600 mAh

German ebay No.: 320298375366

S.

alazarid
12-09-2008, 05:40 AM
Hi,
for those who might be interested. I put my mugen battery for sale at ebay:

Akku Batterie Shift HLI-X9500XL
Typ: Li-ION 7.4V, 6600 mAh

German ebay No.: 320298375366

S.

You should have done it sooner before I got mine.

but why? I find it good (5 hours).

Settembrini
12-09-2008, 08:22 AM
Yes,

you are right, the battery is okay and it is quite an inspired solution,
but as I said before, it has become too bulky for me. That is the only reason.

S.

motowiz
12-09-2008, 12:58 PM
I've tried to find the battery but can't find it.

Settembrini
12-09-2008, 09:57 PM
I've tried to find the battery but can't find it.

Sorry,
yes, ebay deleted the offer, because I used a URL that referred to this forum. That was silly of me.
Tomorrow I'll try it again. And will inform you with the ebay number.

Sorry for your search.

S.

Settembrini
14-09-2008, 10:14 AM
Hello,

I am back again and so is the offer at ebay for

EbayNr: 320298935960

Akku HLI-X9500XL
Typ: Li-ION 7.4V, 6600 mAh

Ebay cancelled the offer, because a link I put in, referred to this page. It was silly to do that.

Okay, I agree it is quite inspired solution to get more power. But for me the shift has become too bulky. But for those who are intereseted in the sheer power it is a great solution.

S.

batghost
16-09-2008, 04:52 AM
What a coincidence, i've been out of the office since last week, doing field work, and everyday and everyhour i called and i called and i called to my office regarding the arrival of the battery

But, voila, this morning, happen to be my work on the field is done, got back to the office, havent sleep since yesterday, fallen to sleep a while in a parking lot, at 10 am i asked my secretary "does the package from amsterdam arrived yet ?", as usual she answer "no", BUT 10 minutes later the postman arrived, OMG i hug it, and i hug it, cause more than 2 weeks i've been waiting.

First impression, I agree to the argument about the thickness that shift have become, compare to 11000mah of asus eeepc901, but still can be look sexy. But what can i say, power mean power, cause when i use the original battery and still connected with HSDPA but Vista is powered off, i plug it off from electricity @ 7am, but @ 2pm, the battery status said 75%, aaarrrghhh, hugo ortega said 5 days, come on !!!

Settembrini
22-09-2008, 07:42 PM
Hi,

a reminder for those who might be interested. The auction will finish tomorrow at 20.30.

EbayNr: 320298935960

Akku HLI-X9500XL
Typ: Li-ION 7.4V, 6600 mAh

Only for one cycle I have used the battery. Then I recharged it and now it is waiting for the new owner.

S.

jarbi
23-09-2008, 10:20 AM
Hi everyone,

I have changed my Proporta case to fit my Shift with extended battery. It was posted in another thread, but may be interesting here as well:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374137&page=5