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aatreya
11th July 2008, 06:00 PM
Anyone with an iPhone want to hack the Pandora application and see if we can get a version working on Windows Mobile?

jsls
11th July 2008, 07:02 PM
You cant just take something from the iphone and port it to window mobile. I have been waiting forever for Pandora on my WM phone, but now I have it on my iPod......so I wouldn't hold out any hope that they will come out with something.

aatreya
11th July 2008, 07:05 PM
Yeah, I know - what I was hoping is that someone with the application could help us figure out the streaming protocol it uses, and then we could write a WM app to do the same thing. Maybe this is too difficult.

surur
11th July 2008, 07:59 PM
Sounds like a great idea. If it works over wifi the network traffic can be observed etc.

Surur

HTC-Master
11th July 2008, 08:45 PM
Dear lord!

Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame

TheChampJT
12th July 2008, 03:11 AM
Dear lord!

Is Pandora still prohibited outside USA???
This is a real shame

Huh? What does that have to do with the original question?

sparhawk6
12th July 2008, 03:54 AM
I wish. I love pandora but I can't have it on my phone. :( One real thing I am jealous about.

rcm_rx7
12th July 2008, 05:34 AM
i've heard it works with the skyfire browser...but I'm getting the feeling I will never get into that beta. Isn't there a AT&T pandora program? I believe it's a pay to use feature however.

Maybe we should get in contact with the guy who made the standalone windows pandora app, seems it would be much easier to "port" that than an iphone app...which was a terrible suggestion by the way

bjrmd
12th July 2008, 06:52 PM
Skyfire does not work- I have it.
I did email pandora just a couple of weeks ago and they have no plans to support the PPC
Have searched for the ATT install cab but no luck.

magicalan
12th July 2008, 07:02 PM
I FOUND THIS
i think it already works on some sprint phones as ic on this blod O_o

http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/archives/2007/05/pandora_for_spr.html

:p

met3ora
12th July 2008, 07:14 PM
There's a Last.FM for Windows Mobile that someone made, it's similar to Pandora. A quick search should turn it up/

zeezee
13th July 2008, 06:11 AM
Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
-zz

mstreeter06
13th July 2008, 06:27 AM
Im going to open up pandora and shift though the code, and possibly write an WM6.1 application to intercept and login to their database just like the website.
-This is just an attempt, i will let everyone know the progress as it matures.
-zz

awesome! hopefully you will have success! can't wait!

zeezee
13th July 2008, 08:29 AM
Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm. :(
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.

banzaiwolfe
13th July 2008, 10:17 AM
Well it seems after 3 hours of reading code and downloading every external javascript file, and decompiling the flash files, it turns out that Pandora has an API that isnt being released in wide array. And to my dismay, after 3hours, and not knowing enough of the AS language, i chose to wait until the Pandora APIv2 is publicly release (it has been release to a very few 3rd party companies - yahoo is one for example) to revisit pandora for wm. :(
-sorry, but like i said it was an attempt.

Thanks for trying :)

hgray
15th July 2008, 05:56 AM
At the risk of sounding dumb, here are my half assembled thoughts lacking necessary sleep...

I know Alltel runs BREW, though I'm not sure about Sprint and ATT (not likely). ATT has more than just the iPhone running Pandora, and I'd assume that these phones are all running the program in Java. Otherwise the devs must like doing more work than necessary, or Pandora is trying to find a way to lock this down and make some money.

Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?

robdenuto
17th July 2008, 06:52 PM
Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?

tried this, but no luck. :( if pandora outright doesn't plan to support windows mobile, they can go screw :D

pmuschi
17th July 2008, 09:20 PM
...Is it possible to pull the program off a phone and run it on a WinMo JavaVM?

My thoughts exactly. Does someone have a RAZR, or another supported AT&T phone, who can visit the URL Pandora sends you?
(which is http:///www.pandora.com/att?)

It seems like Pandora might be a java app. If that's he case, it could easily be pulled from the phone's filesystem, once the "right" phone visited the website and downloaded the app. I'd try it myself with my old RAZR, but my wife nagged me when I upgraded and I threw it away. :(

EDIT: Yeah, I tried it also. It seems like the stock WinMo 6.1. JVM doesn't support some DRM-related features, so the midlet won't run.

Boomstick
22nd July 2008, 12:39 AM
I have the Razr V9M (My old phone). I can see if I can get the file(s). Someone needs to walk me thru which files you need and how to get them. If you want to compare files. If anyone is still trying to get this to work...

:(

Pandora on my phone would rock.

CaliPhattie
23rd July 2008, 03:20 AM
Did anybody else attempt to put Pandora in a .cab file besides Zeezee? Looking forward to find out if someone can do it for the WM6 and upload it somewhere.

AT&T 8525 with WM6 (VP3G)

cyburke
23rd July 2008, 07:48 AM
EDIT: Yeah, I tried it also. It seems like the stock WinMo 6.1. JVM doesn't support some DRM-related features, so the midlet won't run.

this is the same that i experienced

Qualm
23rd July 2008, 08:55 PM
The problem with music sites that stream in Flash (like Pandora, and like the music startup I work for) is that, generally speaking, we code our players for Flash 8. Which is only supported by Flash 8 or 9 for the desktop, and Flash Lite 3 for mobile use.

Adobe and the device, OS, and content partners they are working with have been glacially slow about Flash Lite 3 progress. To date, our CEO and product managers can only demo our WinMo player on one device - an unlocked Nokia N95. That's it. That's all Adobe will let us use at this point. We find this frustrating and ridiculous.

/rant off

bravo261
24th July 2008, 08:13 AM
sucks to see that the iphone and "dumb" phones really have trumped WM phones on this front

rkivuti
27th July 2008, 09:33 AM
Ok my roommate has an I phone he is still waiting for copy pase to work :confused:and he has been waiting for that jail break like crack addict, wm phone rule due to flexibility , he had a nokia now he tries to customisze his iphone and it keeps crashing , I love pandora to death , i even used to use remote desktop just to stream pandora to my phone :rolleyes: , but forget them its there loss, we are the #1 phone os, there , I mean they dont even support black berry WTF, any way pandora really rocks esp at parties , its like the perfet dj,but i have learnt to live with last fm :D, its acctually really good , I had my doubts at first but please give them a try as they care for us so why even waste time on Pandora who don’t even recognize us:mad: , my phone (a Kaiser) can rival some pc's from the 90's and you pic a razer over me , pliz any way enough ranting and try this out. and learn about scrobblin its a pretty interesting consept in the quest for the perfet next song

http://www.last.fm/group/Pocket+Scrobbler/forum/84480/_/379147

Kraize
3rd August 2008, 12:39 AM
Can't you use Flash 7 and just run pandora from Pandora.com? That's what I did lol.

az93civic
3rd August 2008, 12:49 AM
what about this, when Opera finishes Opera Mobile to fully support Widgits:

http://widgets.opera.com/widget/3765/

Kraize
3rd August 2008, 12:54 AM
@az93civic
That's a nice idea.
But I still think it's better to just use Opera 8.65 + Flash 7 or Skyfire.

CEParah
3rd August 2008, 04:00 AM
I used the sprint link to try to download pandora and get it on my mogul. I put in my mobile number and it sent me a text message with a link. When clicked the link and got to the website it said my device was not supported.

But, the interesting thing is in the text message, it said it was "Pandora Trial Download..."

To me it sounds like they (sprint) plans to charge for this.

CSho149
3rd August 2008, 05:22 AM
Had it on my a900 through sprint. They did charge a monthly fee after the trial period was over. I miss having Pandora on my phone...

aatreya
8th August 2008, 10:18 PM
Read this:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=612

Looks like someone called Pandora's bluff. The CTO used to work at Apple.

surur
9th August 2008, 12:58 AM
Read this:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=612

Looks like someone called Pandora's bluff. The CTO used to work at Apple.

Digg this post about Pandora lying.

http://digg.com/tech_news/Pandora_hates_Windows_Mobile_Pandora_speaks_out

Surur

llvllerlin
23rd September 2008, 10:34 PM
(posted in wrong thread.)

bedwa
10th October 2008, 06:50 AM
I've actually masked my Wizard as a Motorola V3xx with some very handy reg hacks and downloaded the trial version of it. The problem is that the jar and jad files are not installing in the Midlet Manager. If there is someone else that is more familiar with these files, feel free to PM me and I'll send you the files to take a look at. It's been far too long since I've looked at Java and I've never reverse compiled anything.

Edit: I've got the AT&T version. FYI :)

More Edit (sorry): the URL for the SWF player at pandora.com is https://www.pandora.com:443/radio/tuner_8_6_0_0_pandora.swf. If you have a SWF decompiler, I'm sure that you can look into a few more things.

itsallsubliminal
12th October 2008, 04:53 AM
I've actually masked my Wizard as a Motorola V3xx with some very handy reg hacks and downloaded the trial version of it. The problem is that the jar and jad files are not installing in the Midlet Manager. If there is someone else that is more familiar with these files, feel free to PM me and I'll send you the files to take a look at. It's been far too long since I've looked at Java and I've never reverse compiled anything.

Edit: I've got the AT&T version. FYI :)

More Edit (sorry): the URL for the SWF player at pandora.com is https://www.pandora.com:443/radio/tuner_8_6_0_0_pandora.swf. If you have a SWF decompiler, I'm sure that you can look into a few more things.


i have the sprint files... how did you mask your phone? The files i have a supposedly for the v54, i might try to mask it if you could tell me how...

Thanks

jug6ernaut
12th October 2008, 05:26 AM
i dont have anything i can offer in terms of support, but im sure there are ALOT of people who like to see this a reality

bedwa
1st November 2008, 05:52 AM
i have the sprint files... how did you mask your phone? The files i have a supposedly for the v54, i might try to mask it if you could tell me how...

Thanks

you have to edit the registry values. first you have to find the UAProf for the phone that you want to change to. Second, replace the following URL with the one that you have for that phone.
Wizard UAProf (http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/wizard-2.0.xml)

Third, open the xml of the profile that you are switching to and there will be a browser section similar to the following from the Wizard's profile:

<rdf: Description rdf:ID="BrowserUA">
<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/profiles/UAPROF/ccppschema-20021212#BrowserUA"/>
<prf:BrowserName>Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer</prf:BrowserName>
<prf:BrowserVersion>4.0</prf:BrowserVersion>
<prf:HtmlVersion>4.01</prf:HtmlVersion>
<prf:XhtmlVersion>1.1</prf:XhtmlVersion>
<prf:FramesCapable>No</prf:FramesCapable>
<prf:PreferenceForFrames>No</prf:PreferenceForFrames>
<prf:TablesCapable>Yes</prf:TablesCapable>


You take the information from this section for the phone that you are switching to and replace the browser information with it. From there, when your phone reports to the provider's servers with your browser type & UAProf, it will display the home deck as if it was that phone.

Edit: with the masking, I have not yet had any more success, but I'm willing to keep trying if you guys are. :)

sosloe
1st November 2008, 10:10 AM
Didnt get a chance to try it out but sounds like it might work, check out this link and let us know:

http://hearitseeit.blogspot.com/2007/07/pandora-on-pocket-pc.html

timdawgdentist
1st November 2008, 11:32 AM
Those directions sound difficult. I will admit that I'm no jedi.


timdawg

bedwa
2nd November 2008, 04:49 AM
Didnt get a chance to try it out but sounds like it might work, check out this link and let us know:

http://hearitseeit.blogspot.com/2007/07/pandora-on-pocket-pc.html

Ugh.... head hurts. Will have to print out and read over and over to understand... That or jump in and do it.... This could take a while.......

Edit: after reading over it again, but alittle slower. It now makes sense. Thankfully I have till Wed off this week to figure this out. I'll let you guys know, and if anything else, If I get a playlist, I'll post it here so that you guys can take a look too.... That is if it isn't specifically for one of my stations only.

It seems that at the least we'll be able to listen. We may not be able to add our thumbs up and thumbs down, but we'll be able to listen. Thanks sosloe!

Edit2: I'm having no luck. It's a WMA stream, but WM on my computer does not make a playlist that is compatible with WMP on the phone. I'm going to have to find a player that will either recognize my playlist or my WMA stream.... I'm halfway there, cause I know that I can stream from my browser to Windows Media Player on my computer.... causes echoing, but I'm half way there. :) (would also be a good way for your friends that are outside of the US to listen to Pandora... They're subject to you're tuning/tastes, but hey... it's a positive, right?)

itsallsubliminal
2nd November 2008, 06:34 PM
Didnt get a chance to try it out but sounds like it might work, check out this link and let us know:

http://hearitseeit.blogspot.com/2007/07/pandora-on-pocket-pc.html

yeah i've seen that pleanty of times, but i would really like a nice interface and control it just way i did my home PC

itsallsubliminal
2nd November 2008, 06:36 PM
you have to edit the registry values. first you have to find the UAProf for the phone that you want to change to. Second, replace the following URL with the one that you have for that phone.
Wizard UAProf (http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/wizard-2.0.xml)

Third, open the xml of the profile that you are switching to and there will be a browser section similar to the following from the Wizard's profile:

<rdf: Description rdf:ID="BrowserUA">
<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/profiles/UAPROF/ccppschema-20021212#BrowserUA"/>
<prf:BrowserName>Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer</prf:BrowserName>
<prf:BrowserVersion>4.0</prf:BrowserVersion>
<prf:HtmlVersion>4.01</prf:HtmlVersion>
<prf:XhtmlVersion>1.1</prf:XhtmlVersion>
<prf:FramesCapable>No</prf:FramesCapable>
<prf:PreferenceForFrames>No</prf:PreferenceForFrames>
<prf:TablesCapable>Yes</prf:TablesCapable>


You take the information from this section for the phone that you are switching to and replace the browser information with it. From there, when your phone reports to the provider's servers with your browser type & UAProf, it will display the home deck as if it was that phone.

Edit: with the masking, I have not yet had any more success, but I'm willing to keep trying if you guys are. :)

i am definitely gunna try this when i get a lil free time, but i keep reading that a pocket pc version is in the works by pandora. Anyone know how long its been in the "works"?

sosloe
5th November 2008, 03:57 AM
First off I just wana say skyfire works awsome... I just downloaded today and it really does view websites just like a normal PC... my opera never played youtube or embedded flash objects correctly but skyfire is fast and works perfectly. Skyfire even loads the actual Pandora interface on the website, but problem being I cant log in!! :( I guess cause it's a flash interface it doesnt give the SIP input option... anybody who's familiar with Skyfire know of a workaround... :confused:


-sosloe

redbandana
5th November 2008, 08:27 AM
( I guess cause it's a flash interface it doesnt give the SIP input option... anybody who's familiar with Skyfire know of a workaround... :confused:


-sosloe

You can always try last.fm (http://last.fm) , which works fine with skyfire. I use it often.

stpete111
5th November 2008, 04:54 PM
First off I just wana say skyfire works awsome... I just downloaded today and it really does view websites just like a normal PC... my opera never played youtube or embedded flash objects correctly but skyfire is fast and works perfectly. Skyfire even loads the actual Pandora interface on the website, but problem being I cant log in!! :( I guess cause it's a flash interface it doesnt give the SIP input option... anybody who's familiar with Skyfire know of a workaround... :confused:


-sosloe

Pandora is a site known NOT to currently work with Skyfire for logging in. To follow the progress of it, go to the Skyfire forums, and then check the subforum called "Websites Not Working in Skyfire." The Pandora thread is stickied.

sosloe
5th November 2008, 07:35 PM
Pandora is a site known NOT to currently work with Skyfire for logging in. To follow the progress of it, go to the Skyfire forums, and then check the subforum called "Websites Not Working in Skyfire." The Pandora thread is stickied.

Thanks, will do ;)


I tried Lastfm but I like Pandora better... thanks though :D

Brent212
18th November 2008, 11:50 PM
Skyfire with last.fm would be a great option, but the audio shuts off when the screen turns off. This makes skyfire useless for many potential uses. There are a lot of internet radio stations out there that I'd like to listen to.

mtstmp
19th November 2008, 04:23 AM
""The good news is that we do have a team working on Windows Mobile versions of Pandora. Given my track record it’s probably best not to comment on the “when” but it’s certainly not a question of “if”.""

quoting tom conrad from pandora. read the whole thing

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=627

yzf750
19th November 2008, 05:27 AM
The ATT LG Incite (winmo 6.1 device) that relased today has pandora on it. I stopped in to buy one at the ATT store so I could do a rom dump or see if its a cab file. But they hadnt got the phone in stock at that store yet. So it seems Pandora is now running on WM. Wife wants an Incite so I may try other stores tomorrow and see if it can be pulled off it and put on my Fuze.

itsallsubliminal
19th November 2008, 07:33 AM
The ATT LG Incite (winmo 6.1 device) that relased today has pandora on it. I stopped in to buy one at the ATT store so I could do a rom dump or see if its a cab file. But they hadnt got the phone in stock at that store yet. So it seems Pandora is now running on WM. Wife wants an Incite so I may try other stores tomorrow and see if it can be pulled off it and put on my Fuze.

PLEASE DO!!! That would be ridiculously sweet! Keep us posted and good lookin out!!!

tmknight
22nd November 2008, 10:04 PM
Sadly, the Incite appears to be a dead-end: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6265

itsallsubliminal
22nd November 2008, 11:10 PM
First off I just wana say skyfire works awsome... I just downloaded today and it really does view websites just like a normal PC... my opera never played youtube or embedded flash objects correctly but skyfire is fast and works perfectly. Skyfire even loads the actual Pandora interface on the website, but problem being I cant log in!! :( I guess cause it's a flash interface it doesnt give the SIP input option... anybody who's familiar with Skyfire know of a workaround... :confused:


-sosloe

i even routed my keyboard to a hardbutton and even when blinking cursor and keyboard up, nothing... no doubt 1.0 will work, NO doubt

jug6ernaut
22nd November 2008, 11:38 PM
is there any news on the pandora from the incite?

yzf750
23rd November 2008, 12:28 AM
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=LG+INCITE&q_sku=sku3140220

ATT's website lists pandora in the Incites specs. My local store hasnt got one in stock to see yet.

surur
23rd November 2008, 12:46 AM
Sadly, the Incite appears to be a dead-end: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6265

Actually quite a few people have seen the app on the device, but it appears to be for pay, at $8.99 per month, not the free iphone version.

Surur

egk-69
23rd November 2008, 04:34 AM
wow, that sucks, my bro haves a Iphone, and Today I use the Pandora, ALL DAY, and its awesome!, at least I like it a lot. I would lovo to have that on my WM phone...

jug6ernaut
23rd November 2008, 05:51 AM
Actually quite a few people have seen the app on the device, but it appears to be for pay, at $8.99 per month, not the free iphone version.

Surur

have to pay for a free service? whats up with that...they better find a way to hack it lol

joel2009
23rd November 2008, 05:54 AM
have to pay for a free service? whats up with that...they better find a way to hack it lol
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Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does in no way mean we agree with everything Hollywood, the record companies and the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here since otherwise we'll end up dealing with your legal hassle. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.





PLease don't even mention these types of things on the forums

mr.jaguar
23rd November 2008, 06:40 AM
theres an app called select radio, it's commercialm, but really nice, supports xm, serius, mytunes, a bunch of others,..

http://selectradio.com/

yzf750
23rd November 2008, 05:05 PM
11. Don't get us all in trouble

Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does in no way mean we agree with everything Hollywood, the record companies and the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here since otherwise we'll end up dealing with your legal hassle. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.





PLease don't even mention these types of things on the forums

Isnt Shazam (the music id program) a copywrited program? Doesnt it require a paid subscription for its use on att also? It says it does on my Fuze when I read the help file in it. Yet I see cab files posted all over xda for that to use free. Explain the difference.
From Music id (shazams website):

Shazam Applications
You acknowledge that the Shazam Applications are the property of Shazam (and its suppliers). You are granted a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable (without the right to sublicense) license to use Shazam iD for the purpose of performing music recognitions and to use the Shazam Facebook Application on your Facebook profile.

You agree not to disassemble, de-compile, reverse engineer, or otherwise attempt to gain access to the source code of the Shazam Applications, except and only to the extent permitted by applicable law

You will not copy nor modify the Shazam Applications or make commercial use of, rent, lease, loan, sell, publish, license, sublicense, distribute, assign or otherwise transfer the Shazam Applications.

You will not alter, destroy, obscure, or otherwise remove any copyright or proprietary notices or labels on or embedded within any part of the Shazam Applications.

Shazam iD may only be downloaded to certain handsets. Click here for more information


Now it states it may not be be copied or distributed, or modified. yet there is a bunch of posts with attachements of it on xda's forums, there is even a post with a modded version for qvga. So explain why this is allowed , yet not a copy of pandora off the incite.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2828654&postcount=1

from reading that I see the following phases:

Converted for QVGA (320x240) support
Removed UID information from query strings
Removed all AT&T specific features

Again, explain the difference to at least me as to why this is ok, yet not the same for pandora.

itsallsubliminal
23rd November 2008, 08:11 PM
Isnt Shazam (the music id program) a copywrited program? Doesnt it require a paid subscription for its use on att also? It says it does on my Fuze when I read the help file in it. Yet I see cab files posted all over xda for that to use free. Explain the difference.
From Music id (shazams website):

Shazam Applications
You acknowledge that the Shazam Applications are the property of Shazam (and its suppliers). You are granted a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable (without the right to sublicense) license to use Shazam iD for the purpose of performing music recognitions and to use the Shazam Facebook Application on your Facebook profile.

You agree not to disassemble, de-compile, reverse engineer, or otherwise attempt to gain access to the source code of the Shazam Applications, except and only to the extent permitted by applicable law

You will not copy nor modify the Shazam Applications or make commercial use of, rent, lease, loan, sell, publish, license, sublicense, distribute, assign or otherwise transfer the Shazam Applications.

You will not alter, destroy, obscure, or otherwise remove any copyright or proprietary notices or labels on or embedded within any part of the Shazam Applications.

Shazam iD may only be downloaded to certain handsets. Click here for more information


Now it states it may not be be copied or distributed, or modified. yet there is a bunch of posts with attachements of it on xda's forums, there is even a post with a modded version for qvga. So explain why this is allowed , yet not a copy of pandora off the incite.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2828654&postcount=1

from reading that I see the following phases:

Converted for QVGA (320x240) support
Removed UID information from query strings
Removed all AT&T specific features

Again, explain the difference to at least me as to why this is ok, yet not the same for pandora.

umm... i believe the point is not to post "cracks" or anything like it, but also "don't make it obvious" like u just did in that post :(

Hint: Private Messages are your friend :D

Keland44
23rd November 2008, 10:10 PM
hopefully it's on there be nice to have on the windows mobile side
any special that can be used for the rom dump? probably be something good to have in case i run into one

jug6ernaut
24th November 2008, 01:44 AM
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6286

1 day free, $8 month after...

yzf750
24th November 2008, 03:00 AM
Free for desktop users
Free for Iphone users
Free for other makes of phones (java)
8 bucks a month for WM users

Wonder whos getting the money, ATT or Pandora for the fee.

jug6ernaut
24th November 2008, 03:39 AM
Free for desktop users
Free for Iphone users
Free for other makes of phones (java)
8 bucks a month for WM users

Wonder whos getting the money, ATT or Pandora for the fee.

very good question...i would say ATT....but who knows...

Keland44
24th November 2008, 05:12 AM
yea that's sad that they cripple the pandora software by makin you pay for it after 1 day of use
i also find it to be weird that it's free on the desktop free on the iphone free for other phones but for wm users it's 8 bucks it really doesn't make any sense

stpete111
25th November 2008, 05:05 PM
The money is going to AT&T, not Pandora. AT&T charges the additional amount because they are greedy, money-hungry a-holes who justify the fee b/c of the "heavy data usage" that comes from using the app. Same reason why they charge a monthly fee for XM on top of the monthly fee you already pay for an XM account. Even though they are making a huge profit on the unlimited data plan they've already charged you, they want to make sure that margin remains huge. To do this, they are charging additional data fees in the form of a "$8 per month Pandora fee" so they don't have their data profits eaten into by anyone who uses Pandora excessively.

seanatki@gmail.com
25th November 2008, 09:53 PM
The money is going to AT&T, not Pandora. AT&T charges the additional amount because they are greedy, money-hungry a-holes who justify the fee b/c of the "heavy data usage" that comes from using the app. ... To do this, they are charging additional data fees in the form of a "$8 per month Pandora fee" so they don't have their data profits eaten into by anyone who uses Pandora excessively.

I don't follow your logic. ATT doesn't charge iPhone users for using the Pandora app, so why would they charge WM users? I think the real culprit here is Pandora, who saw a big oppurtunity to expand its cache by writing an app for the iPhone (for free) and yet couldn't care less about WM phones, even though there are far more WM users out there. WM just doesn't have the sex appeal of the iPhone. Statements made by Pandora confirm this sentiment.

The $8 a month sucks, and if this is the method Pandora is using to reach out to WM users, I imagine we'll never see a free app.

yzf750
25th November 2008, 10:53 PM
I agree with everyone else. I pay for "unlimited data" with my ATT plan, heck I pay more for my ATT cell data plan then I do my broadband internet connection at home a month. Yet ATT nickles and dimes you on every program that should be free on a cell phone. I have Lastfm on my PPC now which is free, whats the difference between that and Pandora, other then att, apple and pandora all sleeping together it seems. Pandora had to have had a say in it also (att's fees) since its using there services also. You cant offer a program using someones service, and charge for it without there ok.
As far as XM, you can bypass ATT anyway and just use IE to go to XMs streaming webpage for mobiles.

Give it a few weeks and I suppose it will pop up (the modified version) elsewhere anyways :)

stpete111
25th November 2008, 10:58 PM
I don't follow your logic. ATT doesn't charge iPhone users for using the Pandora app, so why would they charge WM users? I think the real culprit here is Pandora, who saw a big oppurtunity to expand its cache by writing an app for the iPhone (for free) and yet couldn't care less about WM phones, even though there are far more WM users out there. WM just doesn't have the sex appeal of the iPhone. Statements made by Pandora confirm this sentiment.

The $8 a month sucks, and if this is the method Pandora is using to reach out to WM users, I imagine we'll never see a free app.

The Iphone unlimited data plan is already $10 more than the cheapest unlimited data plan for WinMo smartphones. Such a premium is already built-in.

Regardless of whether the logic makes sense, I can promise you this is ATT's charge, and not Pandora's. Why would Pandora care what kind of phone you're using their service on??

stpete111
25th November 2008, 11:00 PM
I agree with everyone else. I pay for "unlimited data" with my ATT plan, heck I pay more for my ATT cell data plan then I do my broadband internet connection at home a month. Yet ATT nickles and dimes you on every program that should be free on a cell phone. I have Lastfm on my PPC now which is free, whats the difference between that and Pandora, other then att, apple and pandora all sleeping together it seems.

Give it a few weeks and I suppose it will pop up (the modified version) elsewhere anyways :)

Exactly. I'm guessing it will be exactly the same thing as the unlimited use XM thing that someone here came up with. It was a matter of erasing one file each time you exited and the trial clock was reset. They wrote a script to automatically do it.

yzf750
25th November 2008, 11:17 PM
The Iphone unlimited data plan is already $10 more than the cheapest unlimited data plan for WinMo smartphones. Such a premium is already built-in.




How is that built in?

My ATT PDA data plan is 39.99, 10 bucks more I pay a month on a WM device for unlimited data then an Iphone user does right now (30). So it should be the Iphone users paying for Pandora instead and free for the higher WM pda plans . Speaking of other phones, you can stream pandora on even cheaper data plans FOR FREE on ATT since some of the dumb phones offer pandora as a java app(Free). Real fair huh.

stpete111
25th November 2008, 11:57 PM
How is that built in?

My ATT PDA data plan is 39.99, 10 bucks more I pay a month on a WM device for unlimited data then an Iphone user does right now (30). So it should be the Iphone users paying for Pandora instead and free for the higher WM pda plans . Speaking of other phones, you can stream pandora on even cheaper data plans FOR FREE on ATT since some of the dumb phones offer pandora as a java app(Free). Real fair huh.

Right on...

sosloe
26th November 2008, 12:13 AM
So is anybody working on some kind of workaround for this...? Does anybody have the cab installer for the incite version they can upload, I havent run across it yet anywhere :confused:


Can anyone help find the new address for the actual swf file... the old link is not working anymore :(

https://www.pandora.com/radio/tuner_8_6_0_0_pandora.swf

webguy05
26th November 2008, 03:33 PM
So is anybody working on some kind of workaround for this...? Does anybody have the cab installer for the incite version they can upload, I havent run across it yet anywhere :confused:


Can anyone help find the new address for the actual swf file... the old link is not working anymore :(

https://www.pandora.com/radio/tuner_8_6_0_0_pandora.swf

Here you go, https://www.pandora.com/radio/tuner_8_7_0_0_pandora.swf

jhw549
26th November 2008, 03:36 PM
So is this it? Is it game over (for now atleast)?

methosmacleod
26th November 2008, 03:52 PM
Last Radio. Work Flawlessly.

jhw549
26th November 2008, 05:08 PM
Last Radio. Work Flawlessly.

What are you talking about?

.:T8:.
27th November 2008, 06:50 AM
Hello.

Pandora, I must say, is an extremely tough cookie. I enjoy "toying" with web applications in my spare time, and I admit Pandora is on my list of try-and-fails. I used Trillix as my decompiler. I received 4 decompilation errors all pertaining to failure to decode loop statements in the swf. Obfuscation would not cause an error like this, and some of the ActionScript decompiled correctly (rejecting the possibility of AS encryption). I then tried with SoThink, which still resulted in an invalid fla that was obviously incomplete and had arbitrary characters in the ActionScript. I also used ActionScript viewer in a last attempt to find information, which yielded several errors including decompression failure and irrelevant bytes.

I have come to the conclusion that they guys and gals over at Pandora are most likely Hex editing (yes, you cad do that with swf's) the radio swf in a way that prevents accurate decompilation. I could be wrong, but that seems most logical.

For more information on the subject of Flash decompilation:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5111586.html

Feel free to email any questions, comments, or concerns to teight [[at]] rocketmail [[dot]] com.

Hopefully I helped someone with this post.

jake1147
2nd December 2008, 03:37 PM
I downloaded the Pandora demo today on my Fuze - here's the file from pandora.com/att.

seanatki@gmail.com
2nd December 2008, 04:48 PM
I tried the .cab on my Sprint Mogul (Titan) and it will not connect. I imagine that until we create some kind of unlocked version of the program that it will only work on ATT's network.

stpete111
2nd December 2008, 06:08 PM
Works great on my Diamond with AT&T. Can't wait for someone to figure out how to un-trialize it. (It's going to be a little more difficult than the MobiTV/XM hack since there are no other files in the folder besides the executable).

yzf750
2nd December 2008, 06:19 PM
Working on my Fuze also

jug6ernaut
2nd December 2008, 06:30 PM
Question to thoughs who got it working, im guessing you are using an AT&T connection to get it to work?

buggybug0
2nd December 2008, 06:38 PM
Working on my Fuze also

through wifi? or data? I only need to listen to pandora when i'm at home or school studying (ie. places with wifi). saves me the data plan fees

Keland44
2nd December 2008, 06:43 PM
thanks for the cab
i'm using att with a Wizard and it's not great for a qvga phone but it seems to work and connect pretty fast

alabij
2nd December 2008, 07:03 PM
The Pandora cab is available on the EPIX. I had the Epix for a month and it had the Pandora software installed. Any active EPIX owners showuld have access to the cab too.

yzf750
2nd December 2008, 07:49 PM
Is it a trial on the Epix also?

Anyone unistalled it yet and resinstalled it after the 1 day trial or hard reseted and installed it to see if it works again. If it works after it should jus be a matter of finding the file or registry entry it leaves. Or is it going though ATT somehow and they disable it after a day.

Either way it shows how Pandora is lying about how it would be so hard to cover the WM platform with software. I remember seeing a public letter that explained that as there reason for not making a WM client (too many WM devices). So far this works on a tilt, wizard, fuze and diamond with no problem.

dyetheskin
2nd December 2008, 08:09 PM
the cab file install on my kaiser,it works for windows mobile but it's still limited to which devices it supports since it won't connect at all and launches IE telling me my device isn't supported.I agree this should be freeware since there's other programs we use that's freeware which actually eats bandwith more than anything compared to pandora which should be at&t's last worry

jesusishere
2nd December 2008, 08:45 PM
I installed it on my Tilt/Kasier. I'm running WM.6.1 on the AT&T Network US. It ran fine, the graphics were a little large and I couldn't find the options tab. I was able to see album art which was in the wrong place, and I was able to switch songs and it sounded great. I would get a pic but there is a problem with it right now and pandora is down when i went back to take a screeny.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/takerofsouls/20081202_115319_0000_111e.jpg


Email They Sent
They sent me an email immediately after signing up... making it sound as if there is more updates, versions to come....

Welcome to Pandora Mobile

Thanks for trying out Pandora on your Mobile phone!

We look forward to providing you with many hours of great music listening and discovery on your mobile phone.

Please let us know what you like and don't like and what ideas you have for making Pandora Mobile better (yep, just reply to this email).

Cheers,
Tim
Founder


tim.westergren@pandora.com
Maybe we can gripe there to get something done?

methosmacleod
2nd December 2008, 08:51 PM
What are you talking about?

Last Radio. The Last FM Client. If people want pandora, this works just as well and works on most/if not all WM devices

jug6ernaut
2nd December 2008, 09:04 PM
Last Radio. The Last FM Client. If people want pandora, this works just as well and works on most/if not all WM devices

u got a cab?

!Kernel Panic!
2nd December 2008, 09:16 PM
also works on Hermes...with ATT...where does it say it's only a Trial?...I had no pop-ups stating 1day trial like XM does.

uniqueboy
2nd December 2008, 09:19 PM
Since I live in the UK I can't use this service it seems, but I don't see what the fuss is about when I have Last.FM (http://www.last.fm/) running on Skyfire now anyway. It seems to be a similar service and is completely free.:)

!Kernel Panic!
2nd December 2008, 09:27 PM
u got a cab?

check here:
http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=How_to_download_and_install_Pocket _Scrobbler_on_your_device

Compatible player on Pocket PC:

* Windows Media Player 10 Mobile (on Windows Mobile 5 or later)
* TCPMP (with modifications (http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Mobile/forum/72341/_/347009))
* MortPlayer (v3.31 b69 [RC8.1] or later)

jug6ernaut
2nd December 2008, 09:34 PM
check here:
http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=How_to_download_and_install_Pocket _Scrobbler_on_your_device

Compatible player on Pocket PC:

* Windows Media Player 10 Mobile (on Windows Mobile 5 or later)
* TCPMP (with modifications (http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Mobile/forum/72341/_/347009))
* MortPlayer (v3.31 b69 [RC8.1] or later)

thank you much

bigwill3
2nd December 2008, 09:36 PM
Since I live in the UK I can't use this service it seems, but I don't see what the fuss is about when I have Last.FM (http://www.last.fm/) running on Skyfire now anyway. It seems to be a similar service and is completely free.:)

the fuss, for me anyway, is that windows mobile is all about options, and I am being denied an option. also, it stings when iArrogance points to pandora as the one thing they have over us

Brent212
2nd December 2008, 09:46 PM
Since I live in the UK I can't use this service it seems, but I don't see what the fuss is about when I have Last.FM (http://www.last.fm/) running on Skyfire now anyway. It seems to be a similar service and is completely free.:)

I don't understand how you can use that since the audio stops when the screen shuts off. I prefer last.fm to pandora, and was excited when I found out it works on skyfire, but then I realized that anything in skyfire will halt whenever the screen turns off.

sosloe
2nd December 2008, 10:02 PM
Doesnt seem to work with T-mobile... booooo :(

!Kernel Panic!
2nd December 2008, 10:10 PM
thank you much

no problem....

on a side note...does anyone know how i can configure my connection to only use 'over the air' service when in active sync. It seems whenever I use this Pandora app or the Last.fm app when I'm in active sync mode the phone disconnects from media-net....thus trying to stream via USB which when at work isn't allowed by 'Websense'

uniqueboy
2nd December 2008, 10:21 PM
I don't understand how you can use that since the audio stops when the screen shuts off. I prefer last.fm to pandora, and was excited when I found out it works on skyfire, but then I realized that anything in skyfire will halt whenever the screen turns off.

You'r right about the screen, when I off my screen when skyfire is running using psShutXP it just comes straight back on. Maybe another screen lock/off app will do it. I think it is also possible to fix the registry so that just hitting the power button will do the trick.:)

stpete111
2nd December 2008, 10:33 PM
Since I live in the UK I can't use this service it seems, but I don't see what the fuss is about when I have Last.FM (http://www.last.fm/) running on Skyfire now anyway. It seems to be a similar service and is completely free.:)

The interface of the Pandora app is slick and fast, and a bit more convenient than trying to use it in a browser being rendered for a small screen, IMO. Also, the sound quality of any audio being streamed over Skyfire still leaves a lot to be desired. It's definitely NOT the same audio quality that you hear if you use a true desktop.

However, I surely will NOT be paying 8 bucks a month to AT&T for this when I can use Last FM with Skyfire for free, with only a little loss of speed and convenience.

stpete111
2nd December 2008, 10:35 PM
check here:
http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=How_to_download_and_install_Pocket _Scrobbler_on_your_device

Compatible player on Pocket PC:

* Windows Media Player 10 Mobile (on Windows Mobile 5 or later)
* TCPMP (with modifications (http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Mobile/forum/72341/_/347009))
* MortPlayer (v3.31 b69 [RC8.1] or later)

This app has a long way to go, IMO. Extremely limited in its functions, compared to the desktop experience. Who knows, maybe that's what people want in a Pocket PC app. Not me.

jesusishere
2nd December 2008, 11:01 PM
I agree it still needs a lot to offer. It sounds great so far, and i don't remember it saying it needs a subsription. The GUI needs to be updated to the quality of the IClod but at least i have it, even if it's a little helter skelter.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/takerofsouls/20081202_134441_0001_111e.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/takerofsouls/20081202_134624_0002_111e.jpg

Brent212
2nd December 2008, 11:05 PM
This app has a long way to go, IMO. Extremely limited in its functions, compared to the desktop experience. Who knows, maybe that's what people want in a Pocket PC app. Not me.

I couldn't even figure out how to really use it. I could listen to songs, but I couldn't give them the ol "thumbs up" or "thumbs down". I also haven't figured out what "scrobbling" is.

jesusishere
2nd December 2008, 11:07 PM
I couldn't even figure out how to really use it. I could listen to songs, but I couldn't give them the ol "thumbs up" or "thumbs down". I also haven't figured out what "scrobbling" is.

Does it look anything like my screenshots?

uniqueboy
2nd December 2008, 11:13 PM
The interface of the Pandora app is slick and fast, and a bit more convenient than trying to use it in a browser being rendered for a small screen, IMO. Also, the sound quality of any audio being streamed over Skyfire still leaves a lot to be desired. It's definitely NOT the same audio quality that you hear if you use a true desktop.

However, I surely will NOT be paying 8 bucks a month to AT&T for this when I can use Last FM with Skyfire for free, with only a little loss of speed and convenience.

There is some talk of some dedicated last.fm software being developed for wm on their website, I hope they do it.:)

Edit: just found this (http://lastfmppc.uw.hu/), gonna try it now!:D Did not work:(
But i also found Pocket Scrobbler (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=214724&filesize=224781&filename=pocket-scrobbler-ppc-v16.CAB&62623582) last.fm client, which I am trying now.:)

OK Pocket Scrobbler works great so far, it is FREE, Last.fm is Free, the streaming sound quality is better than in skyfire and I can turn off the screen! little bit of buffering going on but I think I can live with that, you guys should give this a try.
See what happens when you just leave a page open doh.

!Kernel Panic!
3rd December 2008, 01:28 AM
There is some talk of some dedicated last.fm software being developed for wm on their website, I hope they do it.:)

Edit: just found this (http://lastfmppc.uw.hu/), gonna try it now!:D Did not work:(

works for me..looks similar to Pandora with very little settings....attached screen cap...


But i also found Pocket Scrobbler (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=214724&filesize=224781&filename=pocket-scrobbler-ppc-v16.CAB&62623582) last.fm client, which I am trying now.:)

OK Pocket Scrobbler works great so far, it is FREE, Last.fm is Free, the streaming sound quality is better than in skyfire and I can turn off the screen! little bit of buffering going on but I think I can live with that, you guys should give this a try.
See what happens when you just leave a page open doh.

Pocket Scrobbler is what I posted above.

sparhawk6
3rd December 2008, 01:47 AM
Pocket Scrobbler in its current form is not functional. The radio has a difficult time transcoding the streamed music, so it stutters constantly.

However, they have been promising a brand new radio (that doesn't stutter) for a long time now. A recent posting by a developer says that its release is imminent. And unlike currently solutions for Pandora, it won't cost you a dime.

I am looking forward to it. They have been delaying this next release for a while, but I have a feeling it will be released in the next few weeks.

!Kernel Panic!
3rd December 2008, 01:53 AM
When 3G is available I really don't have a problem with the streaming...not until I enter an area with only Edge..then the radio starts to break up.

stpete111
3rd December 2008, 02:28 AM
I couldn't even figure out how to really use it. I could listen to songs, but I couldn't give them the ol "thumbs up" or "thumbs down". I also haven't figured out what "scrobbling" is.

Scrobbling is basically where the Last FM site "listens" to your local music (i.e on your harddrive) and tries to hone in on your musical tastes based on that. Every time you "scrobble" a song, you are letting Last FM know that you like this artist and song, and it adds the song's characteristics to your user profile. Ideally, the more music you scrobble, the better Last FM can "learn" what your musical tastes are and play music from it's radio service based on that.

Brent212
3rd December 2008, 03:25 AM
works for me..looks similar to Pandora with very little settings....attached screen cap...


That works for me as well, although I can't see any options for "scrobbling", as I understand it from the last post. I can skip to the next song, but I can't do anything with the song currently playing.

Also, it stops playing once my screen turns off so again, I can't really use it. Is this just happening to me? I use slide to unlock, could that be causing it?

!Kernel Panic!
3rd December 2008, 04:36 AM
Pocket Scrobbler (http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=How_to_download_and_install_Pocket _Scrobbler_on_your_device) works better IMO which also allows me to create/update my stations on the go after registrating on the website www.last.fm where PocketLastFM (http://lastfmppc.uw.hu/) which stutters and has very little user settings or none at all.

Fmstrat
3rd December 2008, 08:32 PM
What about pulling Pandora off the newly released LG Incite (WM6.1)?

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6286

jug6ernaut
3rd December 2008, 08:47 PM
What about pulling Pandora off the newly released LG Incite (WM6.1)?

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6286

im pretty sure its the same the cab posted earlier

stpete111
3rd December 2008, 10:07 PM
What about pulling Pandora off the newly released LG Incite (WM6.1)?

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6286

Welcome to the party dude. AT&T has released it to all supported WinMo phones now.

yzf750
3rd December 2008, 10:14 PM
Welcome to the party dude. AT&T has released it to all supported WinMo phones now.

Says unsupported in "cool tools" when you try to download it for a Fuze.

It also looks like after the one day trial if you put it on your phone your out of luck. Seems to be a server check on pandoras end since it says your trials up after it gets done connecting to pandora itself. My bet is Pandora has there greedy fingers in the money bin along with ATT on this. If you read the fine print if you suscribe to it on atts end, it also gives you a Pandora paid account directly via a regular computer access also.

I tryed setting the date back, running a backup on my fuze of before I installed pandora and then installing it, it still says trial over anyway i try it. I refuse to pay for something thats free to everyone else (dumbphones, iphones, regular web users) out of principle. Looks like LastFM is going back on my Fuze. At least till someone finds a work around.

chavonbravo
3rd December 2008, 11:28 PM
If it's released for all WM at&t phones, can someone post up a qvga version, from say an 8125/8525/8925.

cbass
4th December 2008, 12:00 AM
I go to the cool tools section of their HORRIBLE website... and it's not available for the tilt in 6.0 or 6.1... or the wizard, or the herpes, or the touch pro... I hate this company sometimes.

Travis997
4th December 2008, 03:06 AM
Just letting everyone know. There is a service called nuTsie and what you do is upload your iTunes library .xml file to their website. Then you can listen to your whole iTunes library and even your iTunes playlists on their website or on your phone. What's so great about it is that instead of spending a sh*tload of time uploading your files their website reads all your songs and just finds them on their servers and that's what you listen to. So you don't even have to keep your PC on for streaming your iTunes library. If you want to download the app unfortunately it costs $20 at handmark. Oh and if you put your device as HTC Touch like I have you can't download it because it says it's incompatible so you need to select HTC Diamond as your device to download. And you can listen to other people's libraries/playlists also. And don't go looking for a cracked version or a CAB because I couldn't find one on this site or ipmart-forum.com or even google.

phaze1
4th December 2008, 11:55 AM
Works fine on my Tilt phone....of course the display is a little jacked as it cuts off some of the words on some of the menus and hides my sip but otherwise pretty good, I am able to log in, manage my account, n best of all, play the music. Tnx 4 the cab.

stpete111
4th December 2008, 06:09 PM
Says unsupported in "cool tools" when you try to download it for a Fuze.

It also looks like after the one day trial if you put it on your phone your out of luck. Seems to be a server check on pandoras end since it says your trials up after it gets done connecting to pandora itself. My bet is Pandora has there greedy fingers in the money bin along with ATT on this. If you read the fine print if you suscribe to it on atts end, it also gives you a Pandora paid account directly via a regular computer access also.

I tryed setting the date back, running a backup on my fuze of before I installed pandora and then installing it, it still says trial over anyway i try it. I refuse to pay for something thats free to everyone else (dumbphones, iphones, regular web users) out of principle. Looks like LastFM is going back on my Fuze. At least till someone finds a work around.


Definitely agree with you here. And one thing I have discovered is that if you do subscribe (I have not done this yet) you are prompted to download a new cab. Not sure if this means there is one registered version, or if your subscription details are hardcoded into the cab before you download it. In any case, f**k this 9 bucks a month BS. It's not THAT cool of a service anyway.

sparhawk6
4th December 2008, 06:33 PM
Just letting everyone know. There is a service called nuTsie and what you do is upload your iTunes library .xml file to their website. Then you can listen to your whole iTunes library and even your iTunes playlists on their website or on your phone. What's so great about it is that instead of spending a sh*tload of time uploading your files their website reads all your songs and just finds them on their servers and that's what you listen to. So you don't even have to keep your PC on for streaming your iTunes library. If you want to download the app unfortunately it costs $20 at handmark. Oh and if you put your device as HTC Touch like I have you can't download it because it says it's incompatible so you need to select HTC Diamond as your device to download. And you can listen to other people's libraries/playlists also. And don't go looking for a cracked version or a CAB because I couldn't find one on this site or ipmart-forum.com or even google.

Thanks Travis. Interesting service.

Travis997
5th December 2008, 02:39 AM
Yea and just saying if you do decide to use nutsie then you need to make a playlist with your whole library in it because I haven't found a way to view all your songs yet.

bedwa
5th December 2008, 07:40 AM
The only way to get a cab of pandora for WM is someone with a compatible phone downloading the main cab (even if it's subscribing for a day then canceling through att.com/db) and dumping it. I still have my subscription for when I used to use an LG CU400 and on occasion still use a Motorola V3xx. I'm eagerly awaiting the full dump of the non-trial version for this. It's good to see you guys working on this in my absence. Looks like you got further than I ever could... :)

pjsnyc
9th December 2008, 04:25 AM
This worked for me - http://www.everythingq.com/forum/software/pandora-942-4.html#post272051

cbass
9th December 2008, 05:39 AM
This worked for me - http://www.everythingq.com/forum/software/pandora-942-4.html#post272051
wow. works in qvga.

EPIC WIN. cab posted here for ease of download.

DodgeV83
9th December 2008, 07:17 AM
wow. works in qvga.

EPIC WIN. cab posted here for ease of download.

Works on the Sprint Touch Pro

If you define "works" by what sounds like a 32k bitrate wma stream that constantly has to reconnect even though I have multiple bars in EVDO mode.

I've resorted to using my Dell mini 9 (really small laptop) in tethering mode to get Pandora in the car, YES I LOVE PANDORA THAT MUCH! Unfortunately this app is not going to replace my current setup :(

But a step in the right direction!

smotrs
9th December 2008, 07:36 AM
Works on the Sprint Touch Pro

If you define "works" by what sounds like a 32k bitrate wma stream that constantly has to reconnect even though I have multiple bars in EVDO mode.

But a step in the right direction!
Too bad it's so freaking small. Oh, and with the head phones, it sounds much better.

DodgeV83
9th December 2008, 07:41 AM
Too bad it's so freaking small. Oh, and with the head phones, it sounds much better.

I'm using headphones. Switching between the MP3s on my card, to Pandora...well there really is no comparison. My all-time favorite song came on Pandora and I had to turn it off the quality was so bad.

I'm not worried, it's an easy fix. I just hope the ATT users who pay for this service are getting better quality!

Edit: Pandora on the computer sounds great, I'm sure this will be fixed.

smotrs
9th December 2008, 03:53 PM
I'm using headphones. Switching between the MP3s on my card, to Pandora...well there really is no comparison. My all-time favorite song came on Pandora and I had to turn it off the quality was so bad.

I'm not worried, it's an easy fix. I just hope the ATT users who pay for this service are getting better quality!

Edit: Pandora on the computer sounds great, I'm sure this will be fixed.
I didn't mean to imply that it sounded perfect on the head phones, just better then what comes out of the phone speaker. :) But yeah, should be an easy fix, same with the sizing. It actually looks like the font sizing and controls might be set for QVGA though the software does fill the VGA screen nicely.

pjsnyc
9th December 2008, 04:11 PM
Has anyone figured out how to fix the font size for vga devices? I took a peek in the registry, but couldn't find anything...

drellisdee
9th December 2008, 06:34 PM
Looks like you need a hardware KB to type in for your account creation and the vogue has none. Can someone pull the registry keys that contain user/password with their own removed so I can try to get on that way.

dsaem
9th December 2008, 07:54 PM
wow. works in qvga.

EPIC WIN. cab posted here for ease of download.

Pandora works great on my HTC Touch Pro Unlock from HTC. It is only day one but if it works tomorrow and the next day I'll update it. Currently I'm using it on Wi-Fi since I do not have the data plan. I'm also using T-Mobile. I'll try to get the T-Zones $5.00 Month data plan and see if it works. I hope this helps people out. I just installed the pandora.cab (776.1KB). The Only problem I'm having is that nothing is in the right spot on the screen.

I was wondering if anyone knows of some hot keys to turn up the volume. I got the "Next" and change station button figured out.

pjsnyc
9th December 2008, 08:04 PM
Looks like you need a hardware KB to type in for your account creation and the vogue has none. Can someone pull the registry keys that contain user/password with their own removed so I can try to get on that way.

I was having that problem too. The way I got around that limitation was to activate the on screen keyboard BEFORE you launch the pandora app. Try it and see if it works for you. I'm using TouchPal (not stock keyboard).

tricsio
10th December 2008, 12:50 AM
Except for the app launch (page) image, the CAB works great on the kaiser

dannzeman
10th December 2008, 01:44 AM
I'm having a problem getting sound to come out of my 800w. All the controls work fine, the keyboard, the 5-way except for down, but everything works good and looks good. I can go to the next song, give it a thumbs up or down but just can't get any sound to come out of the speaker or when I'm using headphones. Anyone got any ideas? Would really appreciate some help.

brsev
10th December 2008, 04:00 AM
The CAB works perfectly on my Vogue, as long as you activate the keyboard first. Hopefully it's not a limited trial. Sound quality is surprisingly good with only one bar of EV-DO. Thanks!
While the start-up image is cut off, it otherwise seems made for QVGA.

dannzeman
10th December 2008, 05:56 AM
Turns out Pandora was working fine on my 800w. I fired it up again a few minutes ago and didn't press anything and just let it play. I could hear it now through the spearker. I found out that if I press down on the 5-way it lowers the volume but couldn't find a way to increase it after I lowered it. The system volume was turned up all the way too.

abrigham
10th December 2008, 03:13 PM
This is fantastic! I have this working (so far) on both my HTC Titan, and my wife's MotoQ, both on Sprint. As others have said, the startup splash is cut off on my Titan (unless I'm in landscape mode) but otherwise the actual interface looks great and works very well. Sound quality is decent. It also looks and sounds great on my wife's Q (actually sounds a little better on her Q, at lease when going thru the speaker - the one thing I miss about using that phone myself is the good quality speaker).

jhw549
10th December 2008, 03:56 PM
This is fantastic! I have this working (so far) on both my HTC Titan, and my wife's MotoQ, both on Sprint. As others have said, the startup splash is cut off on my Titan (unless I'm in landscape mode) but otherwise the actual interface looks great and works very well. Sound quality is decent. It also looks and sounds great on my wife's Q (actually sounds a little better on her Q, at lease when going thru the speaker - the one thing I miss about using that phone myself is the good quality speaker).

For your Titan/Mogul did you have to do anything in particular, it won't work on mine. Attached are pictures of the error, the first one pops up immediately, the second after pressing ignore or retry.

chavonbravo
10th December 2008, 04:43 PM
I tried reducing the size of all images and fonts with resource tuner, but then the program wouldn't start.

segadc
10th December 2008, 05:14 PM
Works great thanks! Been meaning to get an account, its cool I just did it from this program.

rgsekula
10th December 2008, 05:36 PM
wow. works in qvga.

EPIC WIN. cab posted here for ease of download.

thanks a bunch. Works great on my vzw i760. Never used pandora until today.

Kloc
10th December 2008, 05:46 PM
Awesome Works on my HTC Wizard running T-mobile!!!

Brent212
10th December 2008, 07:51 PM
Okay, there must be some issue with my phone, because this is the 3rd or 4th program in recent memory that I've been unable to use with the screen off, while others have claimed it works.

I'm using a Sprint Touch with Slide2Unlock (which I'm thinking could be the culprit).

When I push the button on top to turn off the screen, the sound stops. I'm thinking that could be the norm and I just shouldn't actively turn off the screen.

However, if I leave Pandora running, the screen dims after 30 seconds, but won't turn off completely ever. So I guess I can use it that way, but it sucks that the battery will be drained faster because the screen is still on.

When I press the button to turn the screen off and the sound stops, if I press the button again, the screen turns on, displaying the slide2unlock screen, and the sound starts again. Now the screen will actually turn off on its own after 30 seconds. When that happens, the sound stops for about 1 second, then it starts up again, giving me hope. But then after about 5-10 seconds, it stops again completely.

Any thoughts? Is this normal behavior, or is there something I need to do to my phone so that either (a) pushing the button to turn off the screen lets the sound continue to play, or (b) the screen will shut off completely on its own after a set length of time while pandora is running and the sound will continue to play?

Also, I should mention that I get identical results regardless of whether I'm using headphones or the built in speaker.

Thanks.

chavonbravo
10th December 2008, 09:06 PM
Here's a version for portrait qvga devices. Only change is the Pandora startup screen image not cutting off.

To get the input panel to show up, you can also temporarily assign any of your assignable buttons to <Input Panel> and bring it up that way, then put back to normal. You only need keyboard in the beginning to sign up anyways.

chavonbravo
10th December 2008, 11:03 PM
Also of note, the latest one posted is for the motorola q9c (explaining the lack of SIP popup when entering info). Visit http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile for more info. But from what it says, this last one posted is a free version. Not a 1 day trial like the at&t one posted before. I can confirm it even points to a different pandora server. The at&t one points to att-tuner.pandora.com/... while this one points to tuner.pandora.com. Thus no monthly charges from any carrier. :)

Will try out for more than one day to see if anything happens, but I think it's an unlimited version.

varunb007
10th December 2008, 11:11 PM
Also of note, the latest one posted is for the motorola q9c (explaining the lack of SIP popup when entering info). Visit http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile for more info. But from what it says, this last one posted is a free version. Not a 1 day trial like the at&t one posted before. I can confirm it even points to a different pandora server. The at&t one points to att-tuner.pandora.com/... while this one points to tuner.pandora.com. Thus no monthly charges from any carrier. :)

Will try out for more than one day to see if anything happens, but I think it's an unlimited version.

It says the following when I try to install:
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate."

Is there any way you can fix this? I really appreciate your hard work!

sparhawk6
10th December 2008, 11:13 PM
Here's a version for portrait qvga devices. Only change is the Pandora startup screen image not cutting off.

To get the input panel to show up, you can also temporarily assign any of your assignable buttons to <Input Panel> and bring it up that way, then put back to normal. You only need keyboard in the beginning to sign up anyways.

I was not able to install this version because it was not digitally signed. Any way around that?

chavonbravo
10th December 2008, 11:21 PM
Try extracting pandora.exe from the cab and placing it in Program Files/Pandora/ and run from there. That's all the cab does, no registry settings.

varunb007
10th December 2008, 11:23 PM
Try extracting pandora.exe from the cab and placing it in Program Files/Pandora/ and run from there. That's all the cab does, no registry settings.

Just create folder and copy file there or do we need to install something else first?

chavonbravo
10th December 2008, 11:34 PM
Try redownloading, I edited my previous post. I forgot that since I changed the file, it no longer passes signature check. Signed with signcode. I have modified kernel to run unsigned code, that's why I didn't notice. Hope it works! Can't test correctly again cuz of my modified kernel.

starscream
11th December 2008, 12:13 AM
For your Titan/Mogul did you have to do anything in particular, it won't work on mine. Attached are pictures of the error, the first one pops up immediately, the second after pressing ignore or retry.

I'm having the same problem with my Mogul on WM 6....anybody have any ideas?

norkoastal
11th December 2008, 12:34 AM
On my fuze after getting to the sign on screen and inputting info the "thinking" icon sits there and does nothing.. USed the QVGA link posted earlier..

Alemiser
11th December 2008, 12:45 AM
On my fuze after getting to the sign on screen and inputting info the "thinking" icon sits there and does nothing.. USed the QVGA link posted earlier..

I am having this problem as well on my Sprint Vogue (sero).

yzf750
11th December 2008, 12:49 AM
Worked on my Fuze 1 day, now its the spinning icon also.

skoch
11th December 2008, 12:53 AM
Here's a version for portrait qvga devices. Only change is the Pandora startup screen image not cutting off.


Works great on my VZW Vogue running WM6.1 custom rom. Thanks!!

afripino
11th December 2008, 12:58 AM
Confirmed as working on my Sprint Treo 700wx with WM6 Ebag's Trimmed Rom.

This is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks soooooooooooo much!

l3it3r
11th December 2008, 01:12 AM
Here's a version for portrait qvga devices. Only change is the Pandora startup screen image not cutting off.

To get the input panel to show up, you can also temporarily assign any of your assignable buttons to <Input Panel> and bring it up that way, then put back to normal. You only need keyboard in the beginning to sign up anyways.

Installed fine looks great and logs in and plays perfectly! Thanks!!!

davidrules7778
11th December 2008, 01:57 AM
Anyone with an iPhone want to hack the Pandora application and see if we can get a version working on Windows Mobile?

pandora is finally here for windows mobile and it works fantastic heres the link



http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48458&highlight=pandora

skee/07088
11th December 2008, 04:17 AM
PEACE, xda...i normally b at ppcgeeks, but had a software inquiry, and was suggested to bump da question on here..as we all already kno, sum peepl are getting the "debug assertion failed" error message when trying to install pandora..no matter da device(titan, TP)...i googled alot to find out that this error deals with activex controls and the MS visual studio and such..wud the netcf 3.5 update fix this??? NOW..what if they have da update and still get the error??? thank you SOOO much for helpin me further understand how our PPCs work and finding more info on this issue

sparhawk6
11th December 2008, 05:28 AM
The program works on my Titan/Mogul, but the sound quality isn't spectacular (it sounds like 64kb) and it buffers a lot in between songs. Not totally functional yet, but it was fun to see. I love Pandora!

skee/07088
11th December 2008, 05:33 AM
is ur titan custom or stock??? seems to mees up on stock 6.1 ROMs

fatlard
11th December 2008, 06:00 AM
Okay.. I get this to work on a Touch Pro... kind of..

It plays most of a song but not to completion.

It dies before it finishes a song and then goes to connecting..

sucks.

Brent212
11th December 2008, 06:33 AM
Okay.. I get this to work on a Touch Pro... kind of..

It plays most of a song but not to completion.

It dies before it finishes a song and then goes to connecting..

sucks.

Same thing happens here.

skee/07088
11th December 2008, 07:05 AM
yea guys, thats pretty much a known thing with VGA devices(TP)...no known work around as of yet to my knowledge

jhw549
11th December 2008, 07:06 AM
The program works on my Titan/Mogul, but the sound quality isn't spectacular (it sounds like 64kb) and it buffers a lot in between songs. Not totally functional yet, but it was fun to see. I love Pandora!

is ur titan custom or stock??? seems to mees up on stock 6.1 ROMs

I second that, I installed it on my titan/mogul and it wouldn't work, it crashed immediately after launch....

skee/07088
11th December 2008, 07:08 AM
I second that, I installed it on my titan/mogul and it wouldn't work, it crashed immediately after launch....

jhw..is ur ROM stock 6.1???

jhw549
11th December 2008, 03:11 PM
jhw..is ur ROM stock 6.1???
Yes I'm using the updated OEM WM6.1 ROM (mine came with 6)

methosmacleod
11th December 2008, 03:25 PM
I know people have preferences, and they want what they want,
but if functionality/sound quality is your main concern, why aren't more people interested in or using the Last FM client? Its not gorgeous, or as intelligent as the web interface, but on EVDO it does not buffer between songs and sound quality is very high, high enough to double as my in car Sat Radio.

sparhawk6
11th December 2008, 06:15 PM
I second that, I installed it on my titan/mogul and it wouldn't work, it crashed immediately after launch....

My Titan is a custom Rom. DCD's 3.2.6.

chavonbravo
11th December 2008, 08:13 PM
There appears to be a new version out for Sprint and Verizon's Touch (Vogue). This one will be actually made for qvga and should work quite well. See http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

Hopefully someone here with Verizon or Sprint Touch and stock rom could possibly point their mobile browser to pandora.com.

I think they're using a combination of User Agent plus the IP address used to access the site to tell if you're eligible to download it. Even when spoofing user agent it doesn't work. I think you actually need to download it via a sprint or verizon access point and or proxy.

So if anyone fits these requirements, please try it out and post the cab for us.

Bigjohn_S
11th December 2008, 08:25 PM
Works on the Sprint Touch Pro

If you define "works" by what sounds like a 32k bitrate wma stream that constantly has to reconnect even though I have multiple bars in EVDO mode.

I've resorted to using my Dell mini 9 (really small laptop) in tethering mode to get Pandora in the car, YES I LOVE PANDORA THAT MUCH! Unfortunately this app is not going to replace my current setup :(

But a step in the right direction!

Cant' make it work on my HTC Touch Pro (sprint / standard rom)... Gives an exception error... *sigh*

davidrules7778
11th December 2008, 08:31 PM
There appears to be a new version out for Sprint and Verizon's Touch (Vogue). This one will be actually made for qvga and should work quite well. See http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

Hopefully someone here with Verizon or Sprint Touch and stock rom could possibly point their mobile browser to pandora.com.

I think they're using a combination of User Agent plus the IP address used to access the site to tell if you're eligible to download it. Even when spoofing user agent it doesn't work. I think you actually need to download it via a sprint or verizon access point and or proxy.

So if anyone fits these requirements, please try it out and post the cab for us.

I have a sprint touch and i tried to download it and said not supported by my device

jhw549
11th December 2008, 09:18 PM
jhw..is ur ROM stock 6.1???

I have a sprint touch and i tried to download it and said not supported by my device

Were you doing it via EvDO or WiFi? If you were doing it via WiFi my guess would be it needs to be over Sprint's network to properly detect your setup and allow you to download it.

shark1987
11th December 2008, 09:44 PM
The sprint touch doesn't have wifi, so guessing they were using EVDO

Brent212
11th December 2008, 09:48 PM
yea guys, thats pretty much a known thing with VGA devices(TP)...no known work around as of yet to my knowledge

I'm using a Touch, which is QVGA. I don't know why something like that (songs stopping near the end) would have anything to do with the resolution of a device.

jhw549
11th December 2008, 10:04 PM
The sprint touch doesn't have wifi, so guessing they were using EVDO

Hmm, that would be an oops on my part, but it is possible they're using a connection over AS.

diomark
11th December 2008, 10:13 PM
What's people's thoughts on this?

I didn't think the audio quality was that good on the htc raphael - plus the song cut out on me a few times (taking ~30 seconds to recover) while I was testing..

-mark

jesa
11th December 2008, 10:18 PM
I was able to download the cab file and install to my fuze today.

I saved the cab files for the trial and full version.

it works but has to be over the 3g, it fails somtimes and just totally fails when I turn on wifi.

mike21pr
11th December 2008, 10:28 PM
i cant download the official cab for the htc touchat pandoras site, can anyone post it???? thanx

davidrules7778
11th December 2008, 10:41 PM
i cant download the cab for the htc touch, can anyone post it???? thanx

is it the official touch version and u cant post it?

mike21pr
11th December 2008, 10:44 PM
is it the official touch version and u cant post it?

dude i have a titan and it wont let me download it, if i could i wouldnt have asked for it

davidrules7778
11th December 2008, 11:11 PM
dude i have a titan and it wont let me download it, if i could i wouldnt have asked for it

ok but is it the official touch screen one cause i need that too?

norkoastal
11th December 2008, 11:21 PM
I was able to download the cab file and install to my fuze today.

I saved the cab files for the trial and full version.

it works but has to be over the 3g, it fails somtimes and just totally fails when I turn on wifi.

Can you post these since the Cabs ive installed dont load after the user login and just show the spinning icon? Thanks.

davidrules7778
12th December 2008, 12:01 AM
can any one get this downloaded on there touch on either verizon or sprint and if so please post the cab notice that is the one on the touch not the one on the q which is posted every where


heres the link to the pandora page sayin that its available for touch and moto q
http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

Yagi
12th December 2008, 12:42 AM
Here you go guys, this worked on my AT&T Tilt, or the Kaiser as you may know it. On first run I had to use landscape to use my keyboard for the email and password, but after that you can use it in portrait or landscape.

It plays the songs all the way through, sees all my stations, its terrific.

skee/07088
12th December 2008, 12:49 AM
Here you go guys, this worked on my AT&T Tilt, or the Kaiser as you may know it. On first run I had to use landscape to use my keyboard for the email and password, but after that you can use it in portrait or landscape.

It plays the songs all the way through, sees all my stations, its terrific.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48357&page=6

ok, tell me, is that tilt like sprint titan, vogue or TP??? idk, sorry..cuz many are still reporting errors with this cab also, and i wud like to know the differences and similarities between ur fone and others

megatec45
12th December 2008, 04:52 AM
Here you go guys, this worked on my AT&T Tilt, or the Kaiser as you may know it. On first run I had to use landscape to use my keyboard for the email and password, but after that you can use it in portrait or landscape.

It plays the songs all the way through, sees all my stations, its terrific.

Is this still the 1 day trial version or the full??

megatec45
12th December 2008, 06:10 AM
Ok, I tried it, I LIKE IT!! Works with my TRITTON BT Stereo headset as well! Using HSDPA connection, plays smooth as silk. Audio could be a little better, but FREE is GOOD!
My phone is also ATT/Tilt with stock WM 6.1 ROM
THANKS!!

skee/07088
12th December 2008, 06:43 AM
i cant download the official cab for the htc touchat pandoras site, can anyone post it???? thanx

have u tried this one yet???
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48350

post #1

davidrules7778
12th December 2008, 06:46 AM
i cant download the official cab for the htc touchat pandoras site, can anyone post it???? thanx

hey i emailed pandora about the download not working for the touch version and i got an email back saying that the touch version is a rumor that cant be publically realeased yet and they said just stay tuned

myknyte
12th December 2008, 06:47 AM
Here you go guys, this worked on my AT&T Tilt, or the Kaiser as you may know it. On first run I had to use landscape to use my keyboard for the email and password, but after that you can use it in portrait or landscape.

It plays the songs all the way through, sees all my stations, its terrific.


merci! If it works on the TILT, I figured it would (and it does) work on my TYTN II/DOPOD/ATT 8525 phone. Though, as mentioned in this thread, it does buffer a lot. Will have to see and tweak in the registry settings to see if there's anything that can be changed..

One small step... though I'm not sure why I had to install the cab file vs just going to pandora.com which doesnt seem to support our devices.

matthewf01
12th December 2008, 03:49 PM
First, im running this on an Xperia, and the text is TINY.
But when trying to register, I keep getting prompted for "a valid 5 digit zip code" but I dont see a field for that? Some text is cut off, but tabbing through the fields just cycles through the email and password fields so I dont know what the hell...

Brent212
12th December 2008, 07:12 PM
hey i emailed pandora about the download not working for the touch version and i got an email back saying that the touch version is a rumor that cant be publically realeased yet and they said just stay tuned

HA! Nice rumor that is clearly stated on there site, with a f**king picture of a Touch running pandora and everything.

davidrules7778
12th December 2008, 07:54 PM
HA! Nice rumor that is clearly stated on there site, with a f**king picture of a Touch running pandora and everything.


i know right and it says its ready and everything but maybe its still a work in progress or somethin

wytecaztle
12th December 2008, 08:28 PM
It works on my touch pro the text is tiny but it works good not great...loved this app on my a900 back in the day

norkoastal
12th December 2008, 08:56 PM
Pandora only seems to work with a full signal.. Anything less than 4 bars (3G)causes the loading icon to run in circles endlessly. All of the menu options are all off (and very small), but they do allow you to make selections.

Not pleased so far since the Iphone option works good W/O skips on non 3G networks (T-Mobile USA).

skee/07088
12th December 2008, 10:44 PM
HA! Nice rumor that is clearly stated on there site, with a f**king picture of a Touch running pandora and everything.

rofl...tell'em why u mad son....tell'em why u mad

jhw549
14th December 2008, 02:41 AM
rofl...tell'em why u mad son....tell'em why u mad

well that was a thread killer....

skee/07088
14th December 2008, 07:20 AM
whatever...so its dead..so no sense of humor??? why so serious???????????????????

PedroDaGr8
15th December 2008, 09:17 PM
rofl...tell'em why u mad son....tell'em why u mad

Mr. Rapper please calm down this is a family oriented program :p

jhw549
15th December 2008, 10:45 PM
Mr. Rapper please calm down this is a family oriented program :p

lol second

speckledpig
16th December 2008, 12:49 AM
Works fine on 8525/Hermes, thanks.

chavonbravo
16th December 2008, 06:56 AM
Finally, thanks to gammaray from ppcgeeks that was able to download from his device.

This version works very well for QVGA devices. It's a free ad-based version, not a 1-day trial. The keyboard pops up on input panels, which is nice. It's the version meant for the Verizon XV6900. It doesn't look like the interface they have on their website for verizon's touch, but if you sniff packets, you can confirm it's for this device. It's at version 1.1.4.

jhw549
16th December 2008, 07:54 AM
Finally, thanks to gammaray from ppcgeeks that was able to download from his device.

This version works very well for QVGA devices. It's a free ad-based version, not a 1-day trial. The keyboard pops up on input panels, which is nice. It's the version meant for the Verizon XV6900. It doesn't look like the interface they have on their website for verizon's touch, but if you sniff packets, you can confirm it's for this device. It's at version 1.1.4.

No go with Titan same error as before...

tizonly1
16th December 2008, 02:17 PM
No go with Titan same error as before... (the screen caps are on my other computer will edit and post in the morning)


I assume you're getting the same one I'm getting on my Vogue:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/TizOnly1/p161208081454.jpg

jhw549
16th December 2008, 02:44 PM
I assume you're getting the same one I'm getting on my Vogue:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/TizOnly1/p161208081454.jpg
Yup, plus another one after if I press retry or ignore. For some reason I can't get the 'manage attachments' dialog to pop up properly, but the screenshots are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3022964&postcount=140

crissg
16th December 2008, 03:36 PM
I installed the cab from post #187, and it is working great on my Tilt. Text is small but readable even for my poor eyes, and I haven't noticed any buffering. I'm in a good strong HSDPA area, so I'll have to see if the stream quality holds up at my more rural home this evening. Thanks for posting!

I used it at home where I only have EDGE, and other than taking a little longer between songs, it works great. Does fine with WiFi as well with a stong signal.

banderling
16th December 2008, 03:46 PM
Yup, plus another one after if I press retry or ignore. For some reason I can't get the 'manage attachments' dialog to pop up properly, but the screenshots are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3022964&postcount=140

That's what I get on my Mogul with the stock 6.1.... So is Pandora only going to work on cooked/old roms or should I just be patient and it will come?

jhw549
16th December 2008, 04:06 PM
That's what I get on my Mogul with the stock 6.1.... So is Pandora only going to work on cooked/old roms or should I just be patient and it will come?

Yeah mine is stock 6.1 on a Mogul/Titan as well. To be quite honest I'm debating the same thing, if it doesn't come this is definitely something I would be willing to reflash for...

Antboy
16th December 2008, 04:08 PM
Just posted on Pandora's site:

Here's the app, without the annoying AT&T monthly fee...

http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

jhw549
16th December 2008, 04:33 PM
Just posted on Pandora's site:

Here's the app, without the annoying AT&T monthly fee...

http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

Sorry to break it to you but that wasn't "Just" posted, it's been up for a few days now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3024826&postcount=147 6 days ago to be exact... thanks though ^_^

stpete111
16th December 2008, 04:39 PM
Also of note, the latest one posted is for the motorola q9c (explaining the lack of SIP popup when entering info). Visit http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile for more info. But from what it says, this last one posted is a free version. Not a 1 day trial like the at&t one posted before. I can confirm it even points to a different pandora server. The at&t one points to att-tuner.pandora.com/... while this one points to tuner.pandora.com. Thus no monthly charges from any carrier. :)

Will try out for more than one day to see if anything happens, but I think it's an unlimited version.


Can someone post the cab for the new free version for those of us with "unsupported" phones? Or is this something as simple as a user agent spoof?

Thanks.

Antboy
16th December 2008, 04:47 PM
Sorry to break it to you but that wasn't "Just" posted, it's been up for a few days now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3024826&postcount=147 6 days ago to be exact... thanks though ^_^
Heheh. Didn't see that link, as it was in the middle of a bunch of ppcgeeks links. That's what I get for skimming too lightly.

Carry on. :D

jhw549
16th December 2008, 05:28 PM
Can someone post the cab for the new free version for those of us with "unsupported" phones? Or is this something as simple as a user agent spoof?

Thanks.

There appears to be a new version out for Sprint and Verizon's Touch (Vogue). This one will be actually made for qvga and should work quite well. See http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile

Hopefully someone here with Verizon or Sprint Touch and stock rom could possibly point their mobile browser to pandora.com.

I think they're using a combination of User Agent plus the IP address used to access the site to tell if you're eligible to download it. Even when spoofing user agent it doesn't work. I think you actually need to download it via a sprint or verizon access point and or proxy.

So if anyone fits these requirements, please try it out and post the cab for us.

Plus it was already posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3030313&postcount=187 but here it is again...

Also there's a good compatibility listing here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48458

stpete111
16th December 2008, 06:29 PM
Plus it was already posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3030313&postcount=187 but here it is again...

Also there's a good compatibility listing here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48458

Thanks JHW. I had already downloaded and installed that cab but I got the 1-day trial message. Maybe I'm having version control issues. I'll give this one a shot just in case.

Thanks again.

bast525
16th December 2008, 06:51 PM
I assume you're getting the same one I'm getting on my Vogue:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/TizOnly1/p161208081454.jpg

This is driving me crazy! I've tried three different cabs and am getting the same two errors upon launching this app. After ignoring the two errors the app seems to launch fine, it loads my station list, but then when I try to play anything it just says "connecting" and nothing else happens. I have to then force-close the app using the task manager.

This sucks man I would love to have Pandora on my phone at work!

By the way this is on a Samsung i760 phone with the most recent Samsung/Windows 6.1 ROM. Over on PDAPhoneHome forums, there are other i760 users who say that this app works fine for them. Not sure what ROM version everyone is on, but I can tell you there are no custom ROM's for the i760...

rikus1138
16th December 2008, 07:56 PM
I installed the cab from post #187, and it is working great on my Tilt. Text is small but readable even for my poor eyes, and I haven't noticed any buffering. I'm in a good strong HSDPA area, so I'll have to see if the stream quality holds up at my more rural home this evening. Thanks for posting!

Has it given you the 1-day trial message or is this totally free? What I experienced on this version and the version for the verizon touch is that I could not login with my existing pandora username that I use on my PC/wifes instinct/ipod touch so I had to create a new username.

Has anyone else experienced this? The error I kept getting was that it could not recognize my email address. A new account worked great but I am still puzzled.

smotrs
16th December 2008, 09:31 PM
Well they finally released the announcement.

Pandora allows Windows Mobile Users to Enjoy Pandora Stations Anytime, Anywhere for Free OAKLAND, Calif., Dec. 16

OAKLAND, Calif., Dec. 16 /PRNewswire/ — Pandora, the personalized Internet radio service, today announced the release of its Windows Mobile application. For the first time ever, Pandora will be freely available on the Windows Mobile platform further delivering personalized radio beyond the PC. The application will feature the same functionality as the online version of Pandora, such as creating new stations, bookmarking songs, and rating songs with thumbs up or thumbs down.

This is the first time that Pandora is offering a mobile version of its online radio service for the Windows mobile platform. The Pandora application is now available on select, popular Windows Mobile handsets including the Verizon MotoQ9c, the Verizon HTC XV6900, the Sprint MotoQ9c and the Sprint HTC Touch. Pandora expects to release Windows mobile applications for additional handsets after the first of the year to further expand its reach as well as its mobile marketing options for advertisers. Pandora listeners can download the Windows Mobile Application by visiting http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile.

“The launch of Pandora on Windows Mobile is in direct response to our listeners’ requests,” said Tim Westergren, Founder of Pandora. “We’re thrilled to bring the on-the-go Pandora experience to users of Windows Mobile.”

About Pandora:

Pandora (http://www.pandora.com) is a personalized Internet radio and music discovery service available anytime and anywhere on the PC, in the home, and on mobile devices via partnerships with AT&T, Apple and Sprint. Pandora is based on the Music Genome Project begun in 2000 and is the most thorough analysis of popular music ever undertaken. Each song in this massive collection is analyzed by more than 30 trained musicians, and assessed against nearly 400 distinct musical attributes such as melody, harmony, and rhythm to capture its unique musical identity. Using this information to build playlists based on musical similarity, listeners can simply enter a favorite song or artist, and instantly launch a personalized listening experience which includes discovery of new bands, artists and songs. Today, Pandora has a growing user base of more than twenty million registered listeners, a database of over 550,000 songs, and national advertisers such as HP, Microsoft, Honda, Procter & Gamble, and Nike.

Read more at Pandora.com.

megatec45
16th December 2008, 09:51 PM
It still seems as though ATT is holding out. I couldn't find any downloads for ATT except the iphone and most of their dumb phones.
Post # 187 is still the one to use for the Tilt

brsev
17th December 2008, 12:41 AM
So, I've got an XV6900 and I just downloaded the official Pandora release by visiting pandora.com from Internet Explorer (bleh) on my phone. Unfortunately, it only downloads the MotoQ9 smartphone version, not the shiny touch-optimized one in Pandora's screenshot:
http://www.pandora.com/images/phones/winmo/htc_xv6900_thumb.jpghttp://www.pandora.com/images/phones/winmo/moto-q9c_thumb.jpg
That's probably because I'm running WinMo6.1. Is there a workaround?
Edit: Seems to be the same problem as post 205. Works great though, shame about the ads.

EDIT 2.0: so they switched the screenshots. Disregard post.

sshark
17th December 2008, 01:45 AM
No problems here on Touch/Sprint.

Thanks whoever bumped this post to bring to attention.:)

jblade
17th December 2008, 03:38 AM
Seems like you have to use Verizon's slow ass DNS Server... can't use OpenDNS etc..

Has anyone figured out how to get the touch optimized version on the VX6900

If so, what is the name of your phone in activesync?

like I can't remember if it is supposed to be VX6900 or XV6900 or PocketPC etc..

bast525
17th December 2008, 05:03 AM
no one here is tech-savvy enough to know what the error in the screenshots posted on the last page means?

derekwilkinson
17th December 2008, 05:12 AM
Is there anyway to get the keyboard to pop up to make a station?

OscarP
17th December 2008, 04:21 PM
I installed the cab on my diamond and it works great it terms of getting the music. I have one issue, how can I configure my phone or pandora to go out to the internet using my wifi conexion instead of going out on the sprint network? Also, it seems that my wifi gets turned off after some time, maybe a power saving setting that I can not find.

Any help will be appreciated.

cyburke
17th December 2008, 11:32 PM
Finally, thanks to gammaray from ppcgeeks that was able to download from his device.

This version works very well for QVGA devices. It's a free ad-based version, not a 1-day trial. The keyboard pops up on input panels, which is nice. It's the version meant for the Verizon XV6900. It doesn't look like the interface they have on their website for verizon's touch, but if you sniff packets, you can confirm it's for this device. It's at version 1.1.4.

this version works PERFECT on my HTC Touch (Sprint)

THANK YOU for uploading it for us - i couldn't download from Pandora site using PIE

i am so HAPPY to have Pandora on my winmo device - now i can stream in my car!!!!!!

:cool:

(paid for pandora year subscription too only $36 i encourage everyone to do the same)

norkoastal
17th December 2008, 11:40 PM
this version works PERFECT on my HTC Touch (Sprint)

THANK YOU for uploading it for us - i couldn't download from Pandora site using PIE

i am so HAPPY to have Pandora on my winmo device - now i can stream in my car!!!!!!

:cool:

(paid for pandora year subscription too only $36 i encourage everyone to do the same)
I wont pay when I know that phones on my carrier are getting the service for free. Not cool. :mad: Anyome else have a fix for the Wifi only/4 bar (H) signal issue? I cant seem to get Panddora to stream under any non perfect signal environment. I have had a IP right next to me and it loads up right away.

pappydapimp
18th December 2008, 12:00 PM
no one here is tech-savvy enough to know what the error in the screenshots posted on the last page means?

I'm having the same problem as you on my Tilt. It installs fine, registers my login fine, but when I go and play a station it will sit on 'Connecting' until the battery dies if I let it. What ROM do you use? Perhaps that's the reason?

I'm running HDIII, an early Nov. version.

chavonbravo
18th December 2008, 08:43 PM
I'm having the same problem as you on my Tilt. It installs fine, registers my login fine, but when I go and play a station it will sit on 'Connecting' until the battery dies if I let it. What ROM do you use? Perhaps that's the reason?

I'm running HDIII, an early Nov. version.

Make sure you don't have proxy enabled for your internet connection. The proxy on at&t won't let me connect.

norkoastal
18th December 2008, 09:54 PM
Make sure you don't have proxy enabled for your internet connection. The proxy on at&t won't let me connect.

This did the trick.. Thanks!!! :D

oic0
18th December 2008, 10:02 PM
Same issue here. Errors on starup. If I ignore them or hit retry it loads and says the name of my station at the top but never connects and plays.

Holding it near a speaker I can hear the data transfer stop after about 30 seconds but stays on the connecting screen.

Proxy? is there a proxy on WAP.Cingular? if so I have no idea how to disable it.

Paitor
22nd December 2008, 01:32 AM
Is there any program like Tor for WM phones so I can use this program like I'm forced to do on my PC?

OscarP
23rd December 2008, 05:37 PM
I installed it on my Sprint HTC Diamond. I had to configure my WiFi to keep the connection even when going to lock mode. Pandora connects fine but it gets disconnected to frequently. My WiFi signal shows as connected and strong. Is there a problem with this version of Pandora? Is there any trick that I am missing?

mnirr
23rd December 2008, 07:55 PM
I installed the Pandora app version 1.0.25, the most recently posted .cab, on my Pantech duo. The interface surprising works without any issues that I've seen so far, and I'm impressed with the streaming quality over the 3G network. The only problem I have is that the audio quality is not as good as I'd like it to be, I think it might even be playing in mono not stereo, but I know of no way to run a sound test through it. I've tested it so far through the headphone jack on headphones and computer speakers, and through the Bluetooth A2DP to my car stereo (a Pioneer dehp7000bt). I'm not sure if the poor audio quality is being caused by the phone or by the Pandora app, but i would think that since the Bluetooth connection is digital it would preserve the audio quality, which makes me think the problem is with the Pandora app. Any thoughts?

Update: I used the built in Windows Media Player to play a sound test file and confirmed that the phone does output stereo audio to my car stereo. I also tested playing some songs from mp3 and the audio quality was significantly better then from the Pandora app. Has anyone else noticed poor audio quality with the Pandora app?

dsol828
24th December 2008, 10:03 PM
Will this one work better for a TMOBILE Dash than the cab on post #79?

Nevermind - it does - thanks!

_fm
25th December 2008, 06:34 AM
Will this one work better for a TMOBILE Dash than the cab on post #79?

Nevermind - it does - thanks!

Thanks man !!

ag43
28th December 2008, 10:09 AM
now all that's left is to find a way to listen to it outside the us...

trimeijer
9th January 2009, 08:16 AM
Has anyone else noticed poor audio quality with the Pandora app?

Yea, I was quite disappointed with that. I use Pandora all the time on the computer and never noticed any problem with the quality. I think the big thing is the app seems to stream mono instead of stereo. I was hoping there is a option to set to high quality, but I can't really navigate the menus because I have the Touch Pro, and the interface is all wack. Still hoping that my phone will get an official release, or that the app will play nice with VGA. But what I've got is better than nothing eh? :cool:

chiles
9th January 2009, 10:00 AM
I can go through the menus just fine but I still don't see an option to turn up the quality

megatec45
10th January 2009, 02:27 AM
Yea, I was quite disappointed with that. I use Pandora all the time on the computer and never noticed any problem with the quality. I think the big thing is the app seems to stream mono instead of stereo. I was hoping there is a option to set to high quality, but I can't really navigate the menus because I have the Touch Pro, and the interface is all wack. Still hoping that my phone will get an official release, or that the app will play nice with VGA. But what I've got is better than nothing eh? :cool:

There is a App out by Last FM.com called Pocket Scrobbler. It can use HTC Audio Manger to play tracks. I found the sound quality was great and prefer to use it over Pandora.
You can get info and also download from the link below

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=Getting_started

norkoastal
10th January 2009, 03:39 AM
There is a App out by Last FM.com called Pocket Scrobbler. It can use HTC Audio Manger to play tracks. I found the sound quality was great and prefer to use it over Pandora.
You can get info and also download from the link below

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=Getting_started

Looks functional, but is dying for a new interface.. :mad:

dribbler2000
10th January 2009, 03:52 AM
I got it on my tilt . It's awesome. I will put it up as soon as I can.

djsiva
10th January 2009, 10:05 AM
wow. works in qvga.

EPIC WIN. cab posted here for ease of download.


Epic .cab is working flawlessly on my Samsung i760.

Nate

zing@kitesurfdallas.com
11th January 2009, 06:34 PM
I get two "Debug Assertion" errors when starting Pandora on my 2008 Tilt and after clicking Ignore twice it hangs connecting to my Celtic Fusion station. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Cheers.

Maestro Nobones
11th January 2009, 07:23 PM
There is a App out by Last FM.com called Pocket Scrobbler. It can use HTC Audio Manger to play tracks. I found the sound quality was great and prefer to use it over Pandora.
You can get info and also download from the link below

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pocketscrobbler/index.php?title=Getting_started

so I installed and set this up... but you need to have local music on your device to get the streaming music started? what good is that? the whole point of streaming music is to NOT have to load your device up with mp3's :facepalm:

edit: I'm unfamiliar with the scrobbler concept and last.fm. I apologize for speaking hastily and will try to figure out this program's full functionality.

megatec45
11th January 2009, 10:15 PM
so I installed and set this up... but you need to have local music on your device to get the streaming music started? what good is that? the whole point of streaming music is to NOT have to load your device up with mp3's :facepalm:

edit: I'm unfamiliar with the scrobbler concept and last.fm. I apologize for speaking hastily and will try to figure out this program's full functionality.

You play one track, it is then cached, you then send it to last.fm and your personnel radio station is created.
You don't have to do it from your phone. Once you have your account setup you can start it from your PC and create your radio stations from there. When you login from your phone, enter the station you would like to hear. Once you figure it out, the sound quality on your phone is far superior. I like both Pandora and last.fm, but on my phone, the last.fm sounds a lot better.

evertec
14th January 2009, 01:53 PM
Pocketlastfm.net works better than pocketscrobbler (less time buffering and doesn't skip like pocketscrobbler) if you just want the radio and don't need the scrobbling features. You can get it here http://lastfmppc.uw.hu/.

yrsmart
15th January 2009, 09:49 PM
alright I tried two different cabs and it just get stuck at the connecting stage via wifi on my i760.